1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:15,394 Speaker 1: You're listening to ammamea podcast. Look, it's not something you 2 00:00:15,474 --> 00:00:19,073 Speaker 1: see every day. A former member of the royal family 3 00:00:19,754 --> 00:00:23,194 Speaker 1: lying down in the back of a car, the reflections 4 00:00:23,194 --> 00:00:27,714 Speaker 1: of flash bulbs in their eyes, hiding from photographers. Not 5 00:00:27,834 --> 00:00:32,234 Speaker 1: because they've got some controversial new hairdoo or they're dating 6 00:00:32,354 --> 00:00:36,834 Speaker 1: someone new, but because they have been arrested and they've 7 00:00:36,914 --> 00:00:40,873 Speaker 1: been held for hours in a smallish rural police station, 8 00:00:41,674 --> 00:00:46,114 Speaker 1: being questioned while their home is being searched by police. 9 00:00:46,394 --> 00:00:49,314 Speaker 1: You might have woken up and seen the pictures of Andrew, 10 00:00:49,593 --> 00:00:54,554 Speaker 1: formerly Prince Andrew, now just Andrew Mountbatten Windsor being driven 11 00:00:54,594 --> 00:00:57,554 Speaker 1: out of a police station in Norfolk in the UK, 12 00:00:58,194 --> 00:01:01,273 Speaker 1: after being held there for hours and being questioned. And 13 00:01:01,354 --> 00:01:05,394 Speaker 1: if you like what I've been hearing about this for years, 14 00:01:06,074 --> 00:01:09,754 Speaker 1: why suddenly, well I've got some things to tell you. Right. 15 00:01:10,074 --> 00:01:13,834 Speaker 1: This is Holly Wainwright. This is a special emergency episode 16 00:01:13,914 --> 00:01:17,314 Speaker 1: of momameir out Loud. When this happened last night, when 17 00:01:17,314 --> 00:01:20,034 Speaker 1: the news of Prince Andrew, I shouldn't call him Prince 18 00:01:20,074 --> 00:01:22,994 Speaker 1: Andrew because that's not what he's called anymore. When the 19 00:01:23,034 --> 00:01:27,074 Speaker 1: news of Andrew Mountbatten Windsor's arrest dropped. Our group chat 20 00:01:27,074 --> 00:01:29,754 Speaker 1: came to life. That's what happens in mommea out loud world. 21 00:01:29,794 --> 00:01:31,994 Speaker 1: I think it was our Amelia Lester was the first 22 00:01:32,034 --> 00:01:34,514 Speaker 1: one in the group to say this has happened, and 23 00:01:34,554 --> 00:01:36,634 Speaker 1: we had a conversation about whether or not we should 24 00:01:36,634 --> 00:01:39,914 Speaker 1: do something about it. And obviously any out louder will 25 00:01:39,914 --> 00:01:42,954 Speaker 1: know that I am generally considered to be the royal correspondent. 26 00:01:43,034 --> 00:01:45,194 Speaker 1: This is not because I have a PhD in royals, 27 00:01:45,234 --> 00:01:47,514 Speaker 1: although I kind of do, I guess, but because it 28 00:01:47,594 --> 00:01:49,794 Speaker 1: is a bit of a special interest of mine, despite 29 00:01:49,914 --> 00:01:53,634 Speaker 1: being an avowed Republican. Important to note actually that when 30 00:01:53,634 --> 00:01:57,474 Speaker 1: you're seeing the word unprecedented around this, there is precedent 31 00:01:57,554 --> 00:01:59,834 Speaker 1: for a royal being arrested. But mate, it happened in 32 00:01:59,874 --> 00:02:02,474 Speaker 1: sixteen forty nine. This is a very long time ago. 33 00:02:03,154 --> 00:02:05,154 Speaker 1: King Charles the First and that did not end well 34 00:02:05,194 --> 00:02:08,274 Speaker 1: for him. He was beheaded for trees him. That's not 35 00:02:08,314 --> 00:02:10,634 Speaker 1: what's going to happen here. One shouldn't joke about it. 36 00:02:10,754 --> 00:02:14,434 Speaker 1: But that is the last time that a royal was arrested. 37 00:02:14,954 --> 00:02:16,794 Speaker 1: But what I was thinking about when I was looking 38 00:02:16,834 --> 00:02:19,034 Speaker 1: at Andrew in the back of that car this morning 39 00:02:19,354 --> 00:02:21,994 Speaker 1: was that when I was a kid in England. I 40 00:02:22,114 --> 00:02:26,234 Speaker 1: remember the summer that he married Sarah Ferguson Fergie right, 41 00:02:26,834 --> 00:02:28,554 Speaker 1: and I was, I don't know, at some kind of 42 00:02:28,594 --> 00:02:31,434 Speaker 1: summer camp and we all stopped and gathered around the 43 00:02:31,474 --> 00:02:34,794 Speaker 1: TV because that's what you do for royal weddings. We 44 00:02:34,834 --> 00:02:36,594 Speaker 1: would all know that from the little taste of it 45 00:02:36,594 --> 00:02:40,194 Speaker 1: we got when Prince Harry married Megan Markle and it 46 00:02:40,354 --> 00:02:42,714 Speaker 1: wasn't as exciting as Charles and Die back in the 47 00:02:42,794 --> 00:02:45,274 Speaker 1: early eighties, but it was pretty good still. You had 48 00:02:45,314 --> 00:02:48,834 Speaker 1: a literal prince in a dashing uniform. And when I 49 00:02:48,914 --> 00:02:53,154 Speaker 1: was a kid, Prince Andrew was called Randy Andy because 50 00:02:53,234 --> 00:02:56,554 Speaker 1: as a really young man it was clearly acknowledged and 51 00:02:56,634 --> 00:02:59,834 Speaker 1: what I guess the press would call an open secret 52 00:03:00,554 --> 00:03:04,034 Speaker 1: that he was a man who was I think that 53 00:03:04,074 --> 00:03:07,554 Speaker 1: the British tabloids would probably in those days of discribed 54 00:03:07,874 --> 00:03:12,034 Speaker 1: him as a shagger. Right now, this kind of Randy Andy, Oh, 55 00:03:12,074 --> 00:03:14,314 Speaker 1: he likes the ladies. Always a bit of a shagger. 56 00:03:14,474 --> 00:03:17,394 Speaker 1: He's a playboy prince and I was thinking about that 57 00:03:17,474 --> 00:03:20,034 Speaker 1: when I was watching that man now sixty six it 58 00:03:20,074 --> 00:03:23,114 Speaker 1: was actually his birthday. So to backtrack to the arrest, 59 00:03:23,954 --> 00:03:26,154 Speaker 1: famously Prince Andrew has been kicked out of his house. 60 00:03:26,194 --> 00:03:30,234 Speaker 1: He had this fancy royal lodge at Windsor, because royals 61 00:03:30,674 --> 00:03:33,514 Speaker 1: own a lot of property. The King owns lots and 62 00:03:33,554 --> 00:03:35,954 Speaker 1: lots of property, so many houses, so many what they 63 00:03:35,994 --> 00:03:39,394 Speaker 1: call cottages. But they are not cottages as any of 64 00:03:39,434 --> 00:03:41,514 Speaker 1: us would know them. They are manor houses, as if 65 00:03:41,554 --> 00:03:44,074 Speaker 1: you've watched Bridgeton you would know. He'd been living in 66 00:03:44,114 --> 00:03:46,514 Speaker 1: this big, fancy house. Famously, the King kicked him out, 67 00:03:46,554 --> 00:03:49,954 Speaker 1: and yet when he was arrested, he was staying in 68 00:03:49,994 --> 00:03:53,074 Speaker 1: a five bedroom farmhouse called wood Farm, in a little 69 00:03:53,154 --> 00:03:56,074 Speaker 1: village called Wolfton, which is on the Sandringham estate, which 70 00:03:56,114 --> 00:03:58,434 Speaker 1: is owned by the royals. So still in a very 71 00:03:58,474 --> 00:04:01,994 Speaker 1: lovely home, on his brother's purse. That's where he was 72 00:04:02,394 --> 00:04:05,114 Speaker 1: when the cars pulled into the estate early in the 73 00:04:05,114 --> 00:04:08,634 Speaker 1: morning on Thursday. All report what seems to say that 74 00:04:08,674 --> 00:04:10,994 Speaker 1: he was not warned, and that the King was not 75 00:04:11,194 --> 00:04:16,034 Speaker 1: warned either. Ten days ago, the King Charles gave a 76 00:04:16,154 --> 00:04:18,753 Speaker 1: statement saying that he would not stand in the way 77 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:23,274 Speaker 1: of any police investigation into Andrew's misdeeds, and that seems 78 00:04:23,313 --> 00:04:25,193 Speaker 1: to have been in a way a green light for 79 00:04:25,234 --> 00:04:27,914 Speaker 1: this to happen. So the cop cars roll in on 80 00:04:27,953 --> 00:04:30,433 Speaker 1: a Thursday morning and they take him in. They take 81 00:04:30,513 --> 00:04:33,034 Speaker 1: him to a little police station called Alsham Police Station 82 00:04:33,513 --> 00:04:36,354 Speaker 1: in Norfolk, and he's there held there all day. He 83 00:04:36,393 --> 00:04:38,154 Speaker 1: doesn't get led out. That photo of him in the 84 00:04:38,154 --> 00:04:40,633 Speaker 1: back of the car has taken at seven pm. While 85 00:04:40,674 --> 00:04:43,993 Speaker 1: he's in there, cops are at his home and at 86 00:04:44,034 --> 00:04:47,753 Speaker 1: other homes going through his thinks. So a little bit 87 00:04:47,794 --> 00:04:50,193 Speaker 1: of detail before I get back to Randy Andy on 88 00:04:50,274 --> 00:04:54,914 Speaker 1: what Andrew Mountbattan Windsor was actually arrested for. So he 89 00:04:55,034 --> 00:04:59,753 Speaker 1: was arrested for misconduct in public office. Now, this is 90 00:04:59,794 --> 00:05:02,154 Speaker 1: a charge that seems a little bit complicated, and it's 91 00:05:02,234 --> 00:05:05,473 Speaker 1: usually broad against someone who's got high standing public office 92 00:05:05,474 --> 00:05:08,073 Speaker 1: that they were appointed to who has used their position. 93 00:05:08,594 --> 00:05:12,834 Speaker 1: So an example of that might be a policeman interfering 94 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:17,354 Speaker 1: with a witness, or an MP who fiddled their expenses 95 00:05:17,553 --> 00:05:21,553 Speaker 1: to a significant degree. It's quite a high bar to prove. 96 00:05:22,513 --> 00:05:24,633 Speaker 1: And what has come out of the many millions of 97 00:05:24,674 --> 00:05:28,234 Speaker 1: pages of Epstein files that have been released allegations Andrew 98 00:05:28,274 --> 00:05:31,914 Speaker 1: shared sensitive or confidential documents with Epstein while working in 99 00:05:31,953 --> 00:05:35,713 Speaker 1: his official capacity as the UK Trade Envoy back in 100 00:05:35,794 --> 00:05:39,993 Speaker 1: twenty ten. Slightly depressing sidebar about this is that the 101 00:05:40,113 --> 00:05:43,713 Speaker 1: York's biographer, Andrew Lownie, whose book that came out last 102 00:05:43,794 --> 00:05:46,593 Speaker 1: year about the Yorks is seen to have been a 103 00:05:46,594 --> 00:05:49,474 Speaker 1: bit of a catalyst for all that came next, has 104 00:05:49,553 --> 00:05:53,553 Speaker 1: always said that he thinks that Andrew was more likely 105 00:05:53,594 --> 00:05:57,993 Speaker 1: to ultimately face court and accountability over perceived and alleged 106 00:05:58,034 --> 00:06:02,914 Speaker 1: financial crimes rather than alleged sexual crimes. So that's interesting 107 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:07,074 Speaker 1: to take into account. Right, So where does all this 108 00:06:07,393 --> 00:06:11,354 Speaker 1: leave the other Royals? Whatever happens to Andrew next, where 109 00:06:11,354 --> 00:06:15,794 Speaker 1: does all this leave the other Royals? Now? King Charles 110 00:06:15,993 --> 00:06:19,794 Speaker 1: laid the path for this by obviously starting the ball 111 00:06:19,873 --> 00:06:22,634 Speaker 1: rolling on, kicking Andrew out of his job, stripping him 112 00:06:22,633 --> 00:06:25,113 Speaker 1: of his titles, kicking him out of his house, saying 113 00:06:25,113 --> 00:06:29,594 Speaker 1: he wouldn't stand in the way of any police investigation. Andrew, 114 00:06:29,633 --> 00:06:32,394 Speaker 1: by all reporting, has been furious about that. He sees 115 00:06:32,433 --> 00:06:35,474 Speaker 1: it as a betrayal. But the problem that the royal 116 00:06:35,474 --> 00:06:37,594 Speaker 1: family has, the problem that the King has, the problem 117 00:06:37,633 --> 00:06:40,313 Speaker 1: that Prince William has, the problem that everybody who's still 118 00:06:40,313 --> 00:06:43,914 Speaker 1: in that family has, is that it is becoming clearer 119 00:06:43,953 --> 00:06:48,313 Speaker 1: and clearer that for a very very long time. Andrew's misdeeds, 120 00:06:48,313 --> 00:06:51,354 Speaker 1: whatever they are, whatever they perceive, and he continues to 121 00:06:51,354 --> 00:06:54,193 Speaker 1: deny them, have been covered up by his family and 122 00:06:54,313 --> 00:06:58,193 Speaker 1: excused and put aside. So we would all be quite 123 00:06:58,193 --> 00:07:01,193 Speaker 1: familiar I think with the name Virginia Geoffrey, who is 124 00:07:01,274 --> 00:07:05,314 Speaker 1: Andrew's accusers. She insisted that he sexually assaulted her when 125 00:07:05,354 --> 00:07:08,313 Speaker 1: she was a minor. He has always absolutely denied it. 126 00:07:08,753 --> 00:07:11,954 Speaker 1: He settled with her out of court in twenty twenty two. 127 00:07:12,914 --> 00:07:15,714 Speaker 1: He paid her in amount that's never been publicly disclosed, 128 00:07:15,994 --> 00:07:19,274 Speaker 1: but is thought to be about twelve million pounds. That 129 00:07:19,434 --> 00:07:22,994 Speaker 1: is about twenty three million Aussie dollars, right, and Andrew 130 00:07:23,034 --> 00:07:25,554 Speaker 1: didn't have that kind of money lying around. One thing 131 00:07:25,554 --> 00:07:27,674 Speaker 1: that is clear and all that Epstein emails is that 132 00:07:27,714 --> 00:07:30,514 Speaker 1: he and Sarah Ferguson were kind of skint right, which 133 00:07:30,594 --> 00:07:33,234 Speaker 1: meant that they were vulnerable to the fact they were 134 00:07:33,354 --> 00:07:35,473 Speaker 1: toadying up to the wrong people to try and get money. 135 00:07:35,474 --> 00:07:38,834 Speaker 1: This is a story of disgruntled royals that is as 136 00:07:38,834 --> 00:07:42,514 Speaker 1: old as time really. But anyway, they settled with Giffrey 137 00:07:42,914 --> 00:07:45,314 Speaker 1: out of court, and it's believed that he got that 138 00:07:45,393 --> 00:07:49,074 Speaker 1: money from his mum, who lent him lent in inverted 139 00:07:49,114 --> 00:07:53,314 Speaker 1: commas about seven million pounds his father's estate, three million 140 00:07:53,354 --> 00:07:56,834 Speaker 1: pounds and about one point five million from Charles, and 141 00:07:56,874 --> 00:08:00,114 Speaker 1: he's like, folks, we need to make this problem go away. 142 00:08:00,194 --> 00:08:02,593 Speaker 1: It's the Jubilee next year. We want this gone. We 143 00:08:02,634 --> 00:08:05,074 Speaker 1: want this over with. Let's pay this money and this 144 00:08:05,114 --> 00:08:07,834 Speaker 1: goes away. You know, I didn't do anything wrong anyway, 145 00:08:07,953 --> 00:08:11,754 Speaker 1: but let's just make it disappear. They lent him the 146 00:08:11,754 --> 00:08:14,154 Speaker 1: money to do that. By all accounts, he never paid 147 00:08:14,194 --> 00:08:17,634 Speaker 1: them back. But it suggests a level of complicity from 148 00:08:17,714 --> 00:08:21,474 Speaker 1: the royals that is becoming inexcusable in a pub test 149 00:08:21,554 --> 00:08:24,953 Speaker 1: of the British people. The taxpayers in Britain are like 150 00:08:25,034 --> 00:08:27,833 Speaker 1: people all over the world, getting very very sick of 151 00:08:27,953 --> 00:08:30,394 Speaker 1: feeling like there's one rule for the privileged and one 152 00:08:30,474 --> 00:08:32,594 Speaker 1: rule for them. This is why the King has made 153 00:08:32,594 --> 00:08:35,234 Speaker 1: it very clear in the statement he made today. He 154 00:08:35,354 --> 00:08:38,634 Speaker 1: reiterated it more than once. Let me state clearly, the 155 00:08:38,714 --> 00:08:41,314 Speaker 1: law must take its course. He's not going to stand 156 00:08:41,314 --> 00:08:43,434 Speaker 1: in the way. Everybody is equal under the law is 157 00:08:43,474 --> 00:08:46,674 Speaker 1: a really important tenant. Whether or not that's true, you 158 00:08:46,714 --> 00:08:49,234 Speaker 1: could argue, given that nobody else in the Epstein file 159 00:08:49,274 --> 00:08:52,154 Speaker 1: seems to be facing any judgment lately. But the King 160 00:08:52,234 --> 00:08:54,994 Speaker 1: is at pains to say I'm not sticking up for him. 161 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:57,834 Speaker 1: He's on his own, but clearly for years they did, 162 00:08:58,274 --> 00:09:00,194 Speaker 1: and the public are not in the mood to forgive 163 00:09:00,234 --> 00:09:03,274 Speaker 1: that at the moment. They really aren't, and it puts 164 00:09:03,354 --> 00:09:05,514 Speaker 1: all of the other Royals in a difficult position. Prince 165 00:09:05,514 --> 00:09:08,434 Speaker 1: William went on a podcast this week. That's an unusual 166 00:09:08,434 --> 00:09:10,914 Speaker 1: thing for him to do. He went into the BBC studios, 167 00:09:10,914 --> 00:09:13,554 Speaker 1: He sat down with Radio one to talk about mental health. 168 00:09:13,874 --> 00:09:16,754 Speaker 1: He has not asked a single question about Andrew. Now 169 00:09:16,794 --> 00:09:18,674 Speaker 1: that might not seem unusual to you, but if you 170 00:09:18,714 --> 00:09:21,554 Speaker 1: consider that, say our Prime Minister goes into the ABC, 171 00:09:21,754 --> 00:09:24,074 Speaker 1: which is the equivalent of the BBC, to talk about 172 00:09:24,074 --> 00:09:26,474 Speaker 1: what he wants to talk about today, his dog, right, 173 00:09:27,434 --> 00:09:30,154 Speaker 1: The journos will say, I know you're here to talk 174 00:09:30,194 --> 00:09:32,714 Speaker 1: about your dog elbow, but first we need to talk 175 00:09:32,714 --> 00:09:35,954 Speaker 1: about that minister who's been fiddling their expenses. Blah blah blah. 176 00:09:36,034 --> 00:09:38,834 Speaker 1: That's what reporters do, That's what they generally do. They 177 00:09:38,834 --> 00:09:40,594 Speaker 1: will try and get you to talk about that before 178 00:09:40,634 --> 00:09:42,154 Speaker 1: they move on to what you want to talk about. 179 00:09:42,714 --> 00:09:44,794 Speaker 1: The Royals have always been treated with kid gloves around 180 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:47,314 Speaker 1: those kind of things. I get the sense that is 181 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:49,354 Speaker 1: going to be done and that they are going to 182 00:09:49,434 --> 00:09:52,274 Speaker 1: have to figure out what they're going to say. Prince 183 00:09:52,314 --> 00:09:55,114 Speaker 1: William has been very vocal about how he wants to 184 00:09:55,234 --> 00:09:58,154 Speaker 1: change the direction of the monarchy. Charles is seen largely 185 00:09:58,154 --> 00:10:00,514 Speaker 1: as a caretaker king. He's more popular than the expected 186 00:10:00,514 --> 00:10:03,754 Speaker 1: to be, but he knows he's only got a shortish 187 00:10:03,754 --> 00:10:06,074 Speaker 1: time compared to his mum and probably compared to William 188 00:10:06,274 --> 00:10:10,274 Speaker 1: if the monarchy's stance when William's time comes around. But 189 00:10:10,434 --> 00:10:12,674 Speaker 1: it's not enough to stand there and say I want 190 00:10:12,714 --> 00:10:14,354 Speaker 1: us to be slimmed down, and I want this and that. 191 00:10:14,634 --> 00:10:17,474 Speaker 1: People now want details. They're going to want to see 192 00:10:17,514 --> 00:10:19,874 Speaker 1: things like you're selling off your assets. They're going to 193 00:10:19,954 --> 00:10:22,034 Speaker 1: want to see things like you're handing over some of 194 00:10:22,074 --> 00:10:25,194 Speaker 1: your fabulous palaces for public use. They're going to want 195 00:10:25,194 --> 00:10:29,194 Speaker 1: to see real signs of change and understanding that the 196 00:10:29,234 --> 00:10:31,034 Speaker 1: world has shifted from a time when we were all 197 00:10:31,074 --> 00:10:33,474 Speaker 1: just happy for the super rich people to behave however 198 00:10:33,474 --> 00:10:35,954 Speaker 1: they want. They might still do that, and clearly the 199 00:10:35,954 --> 00:10:38,034 Speaker 1: Epstein files are showing us they do do that a lot, 200 00:10:38,474 --> 00:10:41,074 Speaker 1: but we're not happy about it. Anymore, and we want 201 00:10:41,194 --> 00:10:44,234 Speaker 1: that curtain pulled back. Privilege is not the protection, So 202 00:10:44,314 --> 00:10:47,233 Speaker 1: that's going to be interesting. William's in a very difficult situation. 203 00:10:47,634 --> 00:10:50,674 Speaker 1: Those press conversations must be interesting. Harry and Meghan over 204 00:10:50,674 --> 00:10:53,474 Speaker 1: in California, I suggest we'll be rubbing their hands together. 205 00:10:54,034 --> 00:10:56,794 Speaker 1: Prince Harry did mention Andrew once in his book Spare. 206 00:10:57,154 --> 00:10:59,114 Speaker 1: He said it was ironic that he and Megan were 207 00:10:59,154 --> 00:11:01,234 Speaker 1: seen as the black sheep and had had their security 208 00:11:01,234 --> 00:11:04,953 Speaker 1: pulled when Andrew was being accused of heenus crimes. He 209 00:11:05,034 --> 00:11:06,874 Speaker 1: didn't go on about it, but it was in there. 210 00:11:07,234 --> 00:11:10,754 Speaker 1: And of course princesses Eugenie and Beatrice, who and this 211 00:11:10,834 --> 00:11:13,394 Speaker 1: must be mortifying for them, Let's face it, are mentioned 212 00:11:13,434 --> 00:11:16,754 Speaker 1: many times in the Epstein files. Both of their parents 213 00:11:17,234 --> 00:11:20,154 Speaker 1: seem to have been very involved with someone who has 214 00:11:20,194 --> 00:11:22,754 Speaker 1: been proven over and over again to be an abuser 215 00:11:22,834 --> 00:11:25,594 Speaker 1: of the worst kind, as well as being somebody who's 216 00:11:25,594 --> 00:11:30,114 Speaker 1: trying to control his version of the world. They're still princesses. 217 00:11:30,154 --> 00:11:32,554 Speaker 1: They're not working royals, they don't get a stip end 218 00:11:32,594 --> 00:11:35,114 Speaker 1: pocket money from the king, but they're still around. They 219 00:11:35,194 --> 00:11:36,754 Speaker 1: still one of them, at least lives in a house. 220 00:11:36,794 --> 00:11:38,634 Speaker 1: I think that is related to the family. They still 221 00:11:38,634 --> 00:11:41,154 Speaker 1: have their titles, they are still invited to things. You 222 00:11:41,194 --> 00:11:43,914 Speaker 1: would have to imagine that Sarah Ferguson is going to 223 00:11:43,954 --> 00:11:47,794 Speaker 1: be facing some kind of legal investigation herself. She has 224 00:11:47,794 --> 00:11:51,074 Speaker 1: not been seen in public since September in Britain at least. 225 00:11:51,274 --> 00:11:53,914 Speaker 1: There are rumors and speculation that the Middle East is 226 00:11:53,954 --> 00:11:56,914 Speaker 1: where Eugenie, Beatrice and Sarah are spending a bit of time, 227 00:11:57,434 --> 00:12:00,634 Speaker 1: and that Sarah Ferguson's lifestyle may already be being bankrolled 228 00:12:01,194 --> 00:12:05,434 Speaker 1: slightly by rich benefactors there, although what influence she has 229 00:12:05,474 --> 00:12:08,714 Speaker 1: to offer out is very much question So there's a 230 00:12:08,714 --> 00:12:11,074 Speaker 1: lot of mess. There is a lot of mess to 231 00:12:11,154 --> 00:12:13,554 Speaker 1: clear up, but the questions are going to keep going. 232 00:12:13,634 --> 00:12:16,594 Speaker 1: That does not say anything good about the royal family, 233 00:12:16,794 --> 00:12:19,234 Speaker 1: so they are in a pickle. There are some rumors 234 00:12:19,274 --> 00:12:21,794 Speaker 1: I don't believe them though, that Eugenie and Beatrice are 235 00:12:21,794 --> 00:12:24,154 Speaker 1: going to do a tell all, maybe with Oprah. That 236 00:12:24,354 --> 00:12:27,634 Speaker 1: is a terrible idea. Let's remember what happened to their dad. 237 00:12:27,994 --> 00:12:30,154 Speaker 1: That really didn't work out very well. When they sat 238 00:12:30,194 --> 00:12:33,434 Speaker 1: down with a very smart journalist called Emily Maitliss to 239 00:12:33,594 --> 00:12:36,394 Speaker 1: profess his innocence and again was a classic example of 240 00:12:36,394 --> 00:12:39,274 Speaker 1: someone who thought they were above reproach, were above investigation. 241 00:12:39,794 --> 00:12:43,514 Speaker 1: Beatrice Eugenie. I would not recommend that, but hey, it 242 00:12:43,514 --> 00:12:46,914 Speaker 1: would be fun for us all. But right, I'm going 243 00:12:46,994 --> 00:12:49,234 Speaker 1: to stop talking now. We will be back talking about this, 244 00:12:49,314 --> 00:12:51,274 Speaker 1: no doubt on Monday. I hope this has been a 245 00:12:51,314 --> 00:12:53,874 Speaker 1: little bit informative. We're going to be talking more about 246 00:12:53,874 --> 00:12:56,674 Speaker 1: this on Monday with Amelia, with Jesse. There will be 247 00:12:56,754 --> 00:12:59,714 Speaker 1: doubtless more developments before then. I don't think the royals 248 00:12:59,714 --> 00:13:01,994 Speaker 1: can keep calm and carrying on. They're trying to. Charles 249 00:13:01,994 --> 00:13:04,994 Speaker 1: went about his business yesterday, the Queen went about her 250 00:13:04,994 --> 00:13:08,634 Speaker 1: business yesterday. I think those days done, guys. I think 251 00:13:08,714 --> 00:13:11,394 Speaker 1: just smiling through these things and pretending it's not happening, 252 00:13:11,994 --> 00:13:13,994 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way the world works anymore. 253 00:13:14,074 --> 00:13:17,114 Speaker 1: I think you're learning that every step, every time you 254 00:13:17,154 --> 00:13:19,714 Speaker 1: watch the Crown. You've allad been learning that lesson for 255 00:13:19,754 --> 00:13:23,154 Speaker 1: fifty years. Anyway, I'm going back to my Friday. I'm 256 00:13:23,194 --> 00:13:25,554 Speaker 1: in the shed. I hope you're all great that Louders. 257 00:13:25,754 --> 00:13:26,674 Speaker 1: I'll talk you on Monday.