1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,464 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome 4 00:00:26,504 --> 00:00:29,224 Speaker 2: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 5 00:00:29,304 --> 00:00:31,744 Speaker 2: Brodney and I'm Kissania Lee Kisch and coming up on 6 00:00:31,784 --> 00:00:34,344 Speaker 2: the show today, Taylor Swift has released the first trail 7 00:00:34,384 --> 00:00:36,864 Speaker 2: of for her new docu series, and we have homed 8 00:00:36,864 --> 00:00:40,064 Speaker 2: through it to find a bunch of hidden details about 9 00:00:40,104 --> 00:00:43,744 Speaker 2: her life after the show, her relationship Travis Kelsey, So 10 00:00:43,824 --> 00:00:46,464 Speaker 2: many little details we're going to get into. Plus we're 11 00:00:46,464 --> 00:00:48,944 Speaker 2: going to talk about those Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau 12 00:00:49,024 --> 00:00:51,544 Speaker 2: photos and how it's a bit of a strategic move 13 00:00:51,624 --> 00:00:52,424 Speaker 2: from Katy Perry. 14 00:00:52,464 --> 00:00:55,544 Speaker 1: So we're going to get into that, but first, but first. 15 00:00:55,904 --> 00:00:59,984 Speaker 1: The new creative director of Balenciaga has revealed how Megan 16 00:01:00,024 --> 00:01:05,704 Speaker 1: Markle was invited to his show in Paris earlier this month. Now, 17 00:01:06,344 --> 00:01:09,224 Speaker 1: Pierre Parlo Piccioli, I had to practice saying that a 18 00:01:09,264 --> 00:01:12,424 Speaker 1: couple of times. Great name, by the way, he said 19 00:01:12,424 --> 00:01:17,144 Speaker 1: that Megan Michael actually reached out to him and asked 20 00:01:17,144 --> 00:01:19,384 Speaker 1: to come to the show. Now, a number of reports 21 00:01:19,384 --> 00:01:23,224 Speaker 1: were saying that she just invited herself. And I think 22 00:01:23,264 --> 00:01:26,584 Speaker 1: that's a little bit unfair, to be honest, because when 23 00:01:26,584 --> 00:01:29,224 Speaker 1: I actually click into the article and see what he said, 24 00:01:29,464 --> 00:01:32,064 Speaker 1: you know, she just rocked up to the door and 25 00:01:32,104 --> 00:01:35,144 Speaker 1: started knocking and saying can I come in? So apparently 26 00:01:35,144 --> 00:01:38,664 Speaker 1: the two have been texting for a while, and apparently 27 00:01:38,704 --> 00:01:41,144 Speaker 1: she messaged him and said she'd love to come to 28 00:01:41,184 --> 00:01:44,024 Speaker 1: the show. There was no strategy or big orchestration. I 29 00:01:44,064 --> 00:01:46,304 Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone she was coming because I wanted to 30 00:01:46,304 --> 00:01:50,144 Speaker 1: stay a surprise. So obviously their mates and he said, oh, yes, 31 00:01:50,184 --> 00:01:52,624 Speaker 1: of course, come along. The reason that I buy this 32 00:01:53,424 --> 00:01:56,424 Speaker 1: and that I don't think it's her sort of trying 33 00:01:56,424 --> 00:02:00,024 Speaker 1: to get her way into the fashion set is because 34 00:02:00,104 --> 00:02:02,504 Speaker 1: the way the fashion pr works is that they invite 35 00:02:02,544 --> 00:02:05,064 Speaker 1: different people every season. Obviously, you've got your staples, you've 36 00:02:05,104 --> 00:02:08,704 Speaker 1: got like your Anna Wintours, but then each year they'll 37 00:02:08,704 --> 00:02:12,104 Speaker 1: invite different influences or celebrities or whatever. But Megan Michael's 38 00:02:12,144 --> 00:02:14,624 Speaker 1: not really a part of that fashion week circuit. So 39 00:02:14,664 --> 00:02:18,024 Speaker 1: I feel like it's not crazy to think that they 40 00:02:18,024 --> 00:02:19,864 Speaker 1: wouldn't just assume to invite her, do you know what 41 00:02:19,904 --> 00:02:20,184 Speaker 1: I mean? 42 00:02:20,504 --> 00:02:22,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And if you just read the headlines, it 43 00:02:22,784 --> 00:02:26,224 Speaker 2: does look like she demanded to be included and that 44 00:02:26,304 --> 00:02:29,384 Speaker 2: she pushed herself into an environment that she wasn't wanted, 45 00:02:29,744 --> 00:02:31,784 Speaker 2: And a lot of that comes off all the reports 46 00:02:31,784 --> 00:02:33,984 Speaker 2: around her behavior at fashion Week, which we touched on 47 00:02:34,024 --> 00:02:35,664 Speaker 2: briefly the other day and now it'll wrap up of 48 00:02:35,664 --> 00:02:38,504 Speaker 2: which celebrities were there, But there was a lot of 49 00:02:38,544 --> 00:02:41,744 Speaker 2: negative press around how she walked out her show, that 50 00:02:41,824 --> 00:02:44,464 Speaker 2: it looked like she was slowing down and sort of 51 00:02:44,504 --> 00:02:47,424 Speaker 2: doing this very kind of model s walk for photographers, 52 00:02:47,624 --> 00:02:49,304 Speaker 2: which is what a lot of people do at fashion week, 53 00:02:49,344 --> 00:02:51,344 Speaker 2: because the whole point of a designer giving you an 54 00:02:51,344 --> 00:02:53,064 Speaker 2: outfit to her and you're going to a show is 55 00:02:53,064 --> 00:02:56,144 Speaker 2: for you to show your support and show off the outfit. 56 00:02:56,184 --> 00:02:58,424 Speaker 2: If you're someone like Megan Markle, if you're another celebrity, 57 00:02:58,464 --> 00:03:01,104 Speaker 2: could be to get headlines. There's so many different things, 58 00:03:01,104 --> 00:03:04,784 Speaker 2: but it's just because any negative headline about Megan Markle 59 00:03:05,184 --> 00:03:07,944 Speaker 2: just clicks so well, and so this idea that she 60 00:03:08,024 --> 00:03:11,064 Speaker 2: was pushing her way into fashion week has just gone 61 00:03:11,104 --> 00:03:13,584 Speaker 2: on every single website because everyone would be getting crazy 62 00:03:13,624 --> 00:03:15,624 Speaker 2: clicks from it, and it comes off the back of 63 00:03:15,664 --> 00:03:18,264 Speaker 2: like Chrissy Tague and talking about being on her with 64 00:03:18,384 --> 00:03:21,504 Speaker 2: Love Megan Netflix show and just saying she's so polarizing 65 00:03:21,584 --> 00:03:22,904 Speaker 2: and I can't put my finger on why. 66 00:03:22,984 --> 00:03:23,784 Speaker 1: Obviously we know. 67 00:03:23,744 --> 00:03:26,224 Speaker 2: Why because it comes off the whole her and Harry 68 00:03:26,224 --> 00:03:28,224 Speaker 2: getting married, and even back then g remem when they 69 00:03:28,224 --> 00:03:31,344 Speaker 2: first got married, Harry and Meghan, and every article that 70 00:03:31,464 --> 00:03:33,824 Speaker 2: was written and every story that was told was like, 71 00:03:34,104 --> 00:03:36,624 Speaker 2: she's worn the wrong now polished, she's worn the wrong stockings, 72 00:03:36,904 --> 00:03:38,864 Speaker 2: she's going against public, and a lot of them were 73 00:03:38,864 --> 00:03:41,144 Speaker 2: done kind of in like an innocent way, but it's 74 00:03:41,184 --> 00:03:43,944 Speaker 2: because that's the only thing people click on exactly. 75 00:03:43,984 --> 00:03:47,104 Speaker 1: And I'm not a Megan apologist. I'm not crazy about her, 76 00:03:47,384 --> 00:03:50,104 Speaker 1: but in this instance, I do think the headline was 77 00:03:50,144 --> 00:03:54,304 Speaker 1: really unfair because of the way that this invite system works. 78 00:03:54,424 --> 00:03:57,224 Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem fair. And also the way that 79 00:03:57,304 --> 00:03:59,464 Speaker 1: she walked out was she was kind of like, it 80 00:03:59,544 --> 00:04:01,624 Speaker 1: was quite graceful. I thought she looked really beautiful. It 81 00:04:01,664 --> 00:04:05,144 Speaker 1: did feel contrived. However, if you've ever been to a 82 00:04:05,144 --> 00:04:09,064 Speaker 1: fashion week, you should see the peacocking. Like the peacocking 83 00:04:09,104 --> 00:04:12,224 Speaker 1: that goes on at every single fashion week. She was 84 00:04:12,304 --> 00:04:15,464 Speaker 1: like chill compared to half the influences and people that 85 00:04:15,584 --> 00:04:17,744 Speaker 1: actually attend these shows other. 86 00:04:17,584 --> 00:04:20,864 Speaker 2: Shows exactly, and with the designer's comments like it does. Again, 87 00:04:20,904 --> 00:04:22,664 Speaker 2: if you're just looking at the tiktoks people have made 88 00:04:22,664 --> 00:04:24,464 Speaker 2: all the headlines, it does look like he was almost 89 00:04:24,544 --> 00:04:26,864 Speaker 2: throwing her under the bus, But when you read the 90 00:04:26,904 --> 00:04:28,904 Speaker 2: full context, it's more like he was saying, like, I 91 00:04:28,904 --> 00:04:31,504 Speaker 2: have a relationship with her, and she came to support me. 92 00:04:31,584 --> 00:04:33,504 Speaker 2: Like it's supposed to be kind of like a nice 93 00:04:33,624 --> 00:04:36,664 Speaker 2: retelling of the story. But obviously this idea of her 94 00:04:36,744 --> 00:04:39,944 Speaker 2: being a drama queen at fashion week is much more interesting. 95 00:04:40,024 --> 00:04:41,544 Speaker 2: Can I get that? I mean, that's definitely the story 96 00:04:41,544 --> 00:04:43,864 Speaker 2: I would rather read it's her being a drama queen 97 00:04:43,864 --> 00:04:45,784 Speaker 2: at fashion Week, But I just don't think the evidence 98 00:04:45,824 --> 00:04:46,424 Speaker 2: adds up here. 99 00:04:46,744 --> 00:04:49,144 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, and I kind of feel 100 00:04:49,144 --> 00:04:51,344 Speaker 1: bad for him because this is his first season as 101 00:04:51,384 --> 00:04:54,624 Speaker 1: the creative director of Balenciaga. But if you read the quotes, 102 00:04:54,664 --> 00:04:58,224 Speaker 1: it's very innocent and the way that everybody like twisted 103 00:04:58,264 --> 00:05:00,664 Speaker 1: it around. This is one of the times where I 104 00:05:00,704 --> 00:05:02,784 Speaker 1: will stand up for her and say I don't think 105 00:05:02,824 --> 00:05:06,264 Speaker 1: she deserved this like nasty headline, even though it is 106 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:08,824 Speaker 1: more interesting to read but yeah, that's our little update 107 00:05:08,864 --> 00:05:12,624 Speaker 1: on the Blenciaga drama. 108 00:05:13,984 --> 00:05:18,384 Speaker 2: People like to talk about phenomenons almost as if it 109 00:05:18,584 --> 00:05:23,184 Speaker 2: was pieces falling into place, as if it just happened. 110 00:05:24,384 --> 00:05:27,504 Speaker 1: Again, we have broken every. 111 00:05:27,224 --> 00:05:29,344 Speaker 2: Single record you can break with this tour, and the 112 00:05:29,344 --> 00:05:34,144 Speaker 2: only thing left is to close the book. 113 00:05:35,904 --> 00:05:39,464 Speaker 1: Okay. So everybody is very excited because Taylor Swift announced 114 00:05:39,504 --> 00:05:43,384 Speaker 1: on GMA yesterday that she's going to be releasing a 115 00:05:43,584 --> 00:05:48,184 Speaker 1: six part docuseries on Disney Plus about the Aerostore. Now, Laura, 116 00:05:48,224 --> 00:05:50,744 Speaker 1: you've done a massive deep dive on this and we're 117 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:53,064 Speaker 1: going to get into some details, right, Yes. 118 00:05:53,104 --> 00:05:55,544 Speaker 2: So, out of all the big announcements that Taylor Swift 119 00:05:55,544 --> 00:05:57,904 Speaker 2: has teas lately, this is the one that fans were 120 00:05:57,904 --> 00:05:59,704 Speaker 2: pretty sure they knew exactly what it was going to be, 121 00:05:59,704 --> 00:06:01,904 Speaker 2: and all their hunters turned out to be correct that 122 00:06:01,984 --> 00:06:04,664 Speaker 2: it was the errors to a documentary like Thank goodness, 123 00:06:04,704 --> 00:06:07,464 Speaker 2: because after sitting through the life of a Showgirl launch 124 00:06:07,544 --> 00:06:10,064 Speaker 2: in the cinema, which was exactly what she promised fans, 125 00:06:10,064 --> 00:06:12,584 Speaker 2: it was just lyric videos on the screen, but anytime 126 00:06:12,584 --> 00:06:15,064 Speaker 2: there was a little hint of her behind the scenes 127 00:06:15,504 --> 00:06:17,584 Speaker 2: antiques or planning, I was like, I just want to 128 00:06:17,584 --> 00:06:19,984 Speaker 2: watch hours of this. I just can't see her putting 129 00:06:20,024 --> 00:06:22,344 Speaker 2: it all together. And that's exactly what we're getting because 130 00:06:22,384 --> 00:06:24,864 Speaker 2: we've got the first two episodes and the final eras 131 00:06:24,904 --> 00:06:28,304 Speaker 2: to a concert movie being released on December twelve, and 132 00:06:28,344 --> 00:06:30,864 Speaker 2: then the next two episodes will come on December nineteen, 133 00:06:31,304 --> 00:06:33,944 Speaker 2: and then the last two episodes will drop on December 134 00:06:33,984 --> 00:06:36,104 Speaker 2: twenty six if anyone would like to avoid their family 135 00:06:36,184 --> 00:06:39,424 Speaker 2: and loved ones on that day and sit down with 136 00:06:39,584 --> 00:06:40,304 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. 137 00:06:40,344 --> 00:06:43,344 Speaker 1: So that is very exciting. Forget watching the yacht race, 138 00:06:43,664 --> 00:06:44,984 Speaker 1: you got to sit and watch the tailor. 139 00:06:45,064 --> 00:06:46,704 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't say I've ever watched a yacht race. 140 00:06:46,744 --> 00:06:48,504 Speaker 2: That's more of an Emily in Paris day for me, 141 00:06:48,744 --> 00:06:51,104 Speaker 2: But sure, sitting at a Hobart on Boxing Day, I 142 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:52,944 Speaker 2: can't say ever watch that. The rest of us will 143 00:06:52,944 --> 00:06:55,664 Speaker 2: be watching Emily in Paris. Will tails documentary lots to 144 00:06:55,704 --> 00:06:57,624 Speaker 2: choose from at that time of year. So yeah, we 145 00:06:57,664 --> 00:06:59,584 Speaker 2: wanted to go through a few of the little hidden 146 00:06:59,664 --> 00:07:03,384 Speaker 2: details that we've picked up from watching the documentary trailer. 147 00:07:03,464 --> 00:07:05,704 Speaker 2: The documentary trailer, I should say, is just a few minutes, 148 00:07:05,744 --> 00:07:09,424 Speaker 2: but I was pausing quite a lot and pausing trying 149 00:07:09,424 --> 00:07:12,184 Speaker 2: to zoom in my very kind of amateur detective skills 150 00:07:12,264 --> 00:07:15,424 Speaker 2: r at work. So we see the first shot at 151 00:07:15,424 --> 00:07:18,864 Speaker 2: the top of the documentary in Glendale, Arizona, and that's 152 00:07:18,904 --> 00:07:20,824 Speaker 2: one of the very first concerts that she did the 153 00:07:20,824 --> 00:07:22,984 Speaker 2: start of the Eras tour, so that is when they 154 00:07:23,024 --> 00:07:25,184 Speaker 2: started filming footage for this, So they've been filming for 155 00:07:25,224 --> 00:07:28,064 Speaker 2: over two years, which again, like you would often see 156 00:07:28,104 --> 00:07:30,424 Speaker 2: the camera crew, especially in the later stages of the 157 00:07:30,424 --> 00:07:32,784 Speaker 2: Eras tour, like right on stage with her, so everyonnie 158 00:07:32,784 --> 00:07:36,344 Speaker 2: they were probably getting content for a documentary, but it 159 00:07:36,384 --> 00:07:38,024 Speaker 2: just goes to show that they've had this kind of 160 00:07:38,064 --> 00:07:40,584 Speaker 2: mapped out since that very first Eras tour. At the 161 00:07:40,584 --> 00:07:43,384 Speaker 2: top of the documentary, you see a super quick flash 162 00:07:43,424 --> 00:07:45,184 Speaker 2: of a wall of post it so you have to 163 00:07:45,424 --> 00:07:47,824 Speaker 2: pause it and kind of zoom in, and it's where 164 00:07:47,824 --> 00:07:51,104 Speaker 2: she's planning out the songs for all the different performances. 165 00:07:51,424 --> 00:07:53,184 Speaker 2: So if you go on real close, you can see 166 00:07:53,184 --> 00:07:55,624 Speaker 2: that all the posts are songs from her first album, 167 00:07:55,664 --> 00:07:58,344 Speaker 2: so you can see how she's mapping out which songs 168 00:07:58,384 --> 00:08:00,664 Speaker 2: were going to be in the Eras tour set list, 169 00:08:00,744 --> 00:08:02,864 Speaker 2: especially for the first year. So we had from her 170 00:08:02,864 --> 00:08:05,144 Speaker 2: first album a place in this world, cold as you 171 00:08:05,224 --> 00:08:08,104 Speaker 2: are the outside, tied together with a smile, and then 172 00:08:08,144 --> 00:08:10,024 Speaker 2: you can kind of see how she's mapping out and 173 00:08:10,144 --> 00:08:13,264 Speaker 2: use like really old school posts to sort of plan 174 00:08:13,424 --> 00:08:16,344 Speaker 2: which song she's going to pick out of each album. 175 00:08:16,464 --> 00:08:18,184 Speaker 2: So you can see then that she goes down and 176 00:08:18,264 --> 00:08:21,144 Speaker 2: has her difference the song she's picked out from Fearless, 177 00:08:21,144 --> 00:08:23,144 Speaker 2: the songs she's picked out from Speak Now, the song 178 00:08:23,224 --> 00:08:25,744 Speaker 2: she's picked out from Red And I love that even 179 00:08:25,824 --> 00:08:27,984 Speaker 2: like the biggest her in the world, the biggest artists 180 00:08:28,024 --> 00:08:30,784 Speaker 2: in the world, still has to use post its kind 181 00:08:30,784 --> 00:08:32,944 Speaker 2: of visualize what the setlist is going to look like. 182 00:08:33,024 --> 00:08:35,384 Speaker 1: This is going to be so interesting because there's something 183 00:08:35,424 --> 00:08:39,104 Speaker 1: about this particular tour that was quite revolutionary in the 184 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:42,024 Speaker 1: way that it was presented to the world and the 185 00:08:42,024 --> 00:08:44,904 Speaker 1: way that it just like took over social media, and 186 00:08:44,944 --> 00:08:48,184 Speaker 1: the way that everybody knew, particularly as the tour progressed, 187 00:08:48,664 --> 00:08:52,264 Speaker 1: everybody knew about like what was coming next, where was 188 00:08:52,264 --> 00:08:54,064 Speaker 1: the hat going to be, what color was it going 189 00:08:54,104 --> 00:08:56,624 Speaker 1: to be? When she dove under the water, everybody knew 190 00:08:56,664 --> 00:08:58,904 Speaker 1: what was coming and it built all of this excitement 191 00:08:59,104 --> 00:09:01,384 Speaker 1: for the show. So it's going to be really great 192 00:09:01,424 --> 00:09:05,264 Speaker 1: to see how that all came together. Yeah, okay, what 193 00:09:05,344 --> 00:09:07,744 Speaker 1: else have you spotted? Because that's good. I like that one. 194 00:09:07,864 --> 00:09:09,744 Speaker 2: So there's a few shots of her working out in 195 00:09:09,784 --> 00:09:11,944 Speaker 2: a gym, which interesting because she has talked a little 196 00:09:11,944 --> 00:09:14,384 Speaker 2: bit about how she got physically prepared for the Errors tour, 197 00:09:14,784 --> 00:09:17,944 Speaker 2: and part of that was singing through the whole set 198 00:09:17,984 --> 00:09:21,504 Speaker 2: list while running on a treadmill. So three hours straight 199 00:09:21,544 --> 00:09:23,024 Speaker 2: of being on a treadmill, which I guess is what 200 00:09:23,064 --> 00:09:25,424 Speaker 2: you'd have to do to perform for three hours. So 201 00:09:25,544 --> 00:09:28,144 Speaker 2: she said previously that for the fast song she runs 202 00:09:28,264 --> 00:09:30,304 Speaker 2: and then for the slower song she slows down to 203 00:09:30,344 --> 00:09:32,864 Speaker 2: a walk. This gym that she's filming in for the 204 00:09:32,904 --> 00:09:35,864 Speaker 2: eras to a documentary looks to be the gym dog 205 00:09:35,904 --> 00:09:39,104 Speaker 2: Pound in New York, and in this shot she's wearing like, oh, 206 00:09:39,104 --> 00:09:39,784 Speaker 2: you've worked out there. 207 00:09:39,864 --> 00:09:41,544 Speaker 1: I haven't worked out that you know of it? I 208 00:09:41,584 --> 00:09:42,624 Speaker 1: know of it. 209 00:09:42,624 --> 00:09:44,864 Speaker 2: It's interesting that she has a gym that she goes 210 00:09:44,904 --> 00:09:46,984 Speaker 2: to as well that she doesn't have in that like 211 00:09:47,304 --> 00:09:49,664 Speaker 2: New York mansion, or like her Rhode Island mansion or 212 00:09:49,664 --> 00:09:51,984 Speaker 2: her La Manchion or any of her many many mansions 213 00:09:52,344 --> 00:09:55,064 Speaker 2: that she prefers going to a gym than a home gym. 214 00:09:55,144 --> 00:09:57,304 Speaker 1: I kind of get that though, because sometimes I like 215 00:09:57,344 --> 00:09:59,624 Speaker 1: the community of being in like a gym space rather 216 00:09:59,664 --> 00:10:02,584 Speaker 1: than like working out alone because I've got no desire 217 00:10:02,624 --> 00:10:03,624 Speaker 1: to do it by myself. 218 00:10:03,704 --> 00:10:05,424 Speaker 2: I don't know if she's on the gym floor with 219 00:10:05,464 --> 00:10:06,744 Speaker 2: the regal Hunters, I. 220 00:10:06,744 --> 00:10:08,464 Speaker 1: Don't know if he looks probably got a private room. 221 00:10:08,584 --> 00:10:09,024 Speaker 1: I know she. 222 00:10:08,984 --> 00:10:11,224 Speaker 2: Definitely was back in the day, like for her first 223 00:10:11,264 --> 00:10:13,224 Speaker 2: few albums, but I don't know for the errors tour. 224 00:10:13,344 --> 00:10:15,944 Speaker 2: But you know, it's an interesting little takeaway if that's 225 00:10:15,984 --> 00:10:16,584 Speaker 2: where she is. 226 00:10:16,824 --> 00:10:19,264 Speaker 1: She'd do an earlier documentary which was talking about how 227 00:10:19,304 --> 00:10:21,584 Speaker 1: she was having some problems in the earlier tours because 228 00:10:21,584 --> 00:10:24,904 Speaker 1: she wasn't eating enough and she was like getting really weak, 229 00:10:24,944 --> 00:10:26,744 Speaker 1: and it's just kind of when she started talking about 230 00:10:26,744 --> 00:10:28,984 Speaker 1: her eating disorder and yeah, and some of the problems 231 00:10:28,984 --> 00:10:30,944 Speaker 1: with food that she had and that she just wasn't 232 00:10:30,984 --> 00:10:34,064 Speaker 1: able to fuel her body properly to like withstand the 233 00:10:34,144 --> 00:10:35,144 Speaker 1: length of a tour. 234 00:10:35,664 --> 00:10:37,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I think that's why the physical prep 235 00:10:37,824 --> 00:10:40,064 Speaker 2: goes into it. That's why anyone who does a stadium 236 00:10:40,104 --> 00:10:44,024 Speaker 2: tour for multiple hours over multiple nights, like the fitness 237 00:10:44,024 --> 00:10:46,264 Speaker 2: and health that you need for that. It's why I 238 00:10:46,304 --> 00:10:48,224 Speaker 2: always thought it was interesting that people would like rubbish 239 00:10:48,264 --> 00:10:50,104 Speaker 2: like Lizo for being unfit all that kind of thing, 240 00:10:50,104 --> 00:10:51,904 Speaker 2: and it's like you try and dance and sing on 241 00:10:51,944 --> 00:10:54,544 Speaker 2: stage for three hours, like the core fitness you would 242 00:10:54,584 --> 00:10:57,224 Speaker 2: need is crazy. We also see in some of the 243 00:10:57,224 --> 00:11:00,744 Speaker 2: shots where she's walking around like the stadium and Miami 244 00:11:00,784 --> 00:11:03,104 Speaker 2: and like doing a walk through behind the scenes, is 245 00:11:03,144 --> 00:11:05,344 Speaker 2: that she often has one of her cats with her, 246 00:11:05,424 --> 00:11:07,144 Speaker 2: and the cat that was taken on that part of 247 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:09,944 Speaker 2: the tour is Olivia Benson Ah. But later on we 248 00:11:09,944 --> 00:11:13,824 Speaker 2: see her holding Benjamin, her other cat, in a hotel room, 249 00:11:13,904 --> 00:11:15,784 Speaker 2: so I think maybe she like takes a different cat 250 00:11:15,784 --> 00:11:16,744 Speaker 2: with her on each leg. 251 00:11:16,944 --> 00:11:18,864 Speaker 1: Do you think they like that. I'm not a cat person. 252 00:11:19,384 --> 00:11:23,344 Speaker 2: I think these particular cats seem very kind of used 253 00:11:23,424 --> 00:11:25,904 Speaker 2: to being like constantly held and cuddled, and they're like 254 00:11:25,944 --> 00:11:27,824 Speaker 2: a huge part of her personality. I think it's like 255 00:11:27,824 --> 00:11:30,104 Speaker 2: how people take their and like especially in America, Like 256 00:11:30,224 --> 00:11:31,464 Speaker 2: you know, you get in a flight in America and 257 00:11:31,464 --> 00:11:33,224 Speaker 2: everyone next to you is like got a dog and 258 00:11:33,264 --> 00:11:35,464 Speaker 2: a cat and they just come on the plane and 259 00:11:35,504 --> 00:11:37,504 Speaker 2: it's just a normal thing. And I think especially for 260 00:11:37,544 --> 00:11:39,904 Speaker 2: her because she goes in her private car, to her 261 00:11:39,904 --> 00:11:43,984 Speaker 2: private jet, to her hotel suite, to her hotel, So 262 00:11:44,064 --> 00:11:45,824 Speaker 2: I think bringing the cat would be a lot easier. 263 00:11:45,944 --> 00:11:49,544 Speaker 1: Olivia Benson's life would be so much better than any 264 00:11:49,584 --> 00:11:50,104 Speaker 1: of ours. 265 00:11:50,224 --> 00:11:51,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, exactly. 266 00:11:51,944 --> 00:11:55,184 Speaker 1: Imagine they've been on more private jets than I won't 267 00:11:55,184 --> 00:11:56,944 Speaker 1: even see a private jet exactly. 268 00:11:56,984 --> 00:11:59,384 Speaker 2: Those cats live a life of luxury, but also they 269 00:11:59,384 --> 00:12:01,104 Speaker 2: have jobs to do as well, like Olivia Benson's a 270 00:12:01,104 --> 00:12:03,504 Speaker 2: working cat, as is Benjamin, because their job is to 271 00:12:03,544 --> 00:12:05,864 Speaker 2: be held by Taylor Swift to like comfort her as 272 00:12:05,864 --> 00:12:08,784 Speaker 2: she walks around the stadium about to play to thousands 273 00:12:08,824 --> 00:12:09,224 Speaker 2: of people. 274 00:12:09,384 --> 00:12:11,704 Speaker 1: She had one of those cute bats packs that like the. 275 00:12:11,784 --> 00:12:13,624 Speaker 2: I think, sorry, I actually had a cat. I can't 276 00:12:13,624 --> 00:12:15,584 Speaker 2: remember which documentary was, but I have seen her have 277 00:12:15,624 --> 00:12:18,344 Speaker 2: a cat backpack yet. I think now she's escalated to 278 00:12:18,384 --> 00:12:21,144 Speaker 2: a carrier and an assistant would carry it, but it's 279 00:12:21,144 --> 00:12:21,544 Speaker 2: still there. 280 00:12:21,584 --> 00:12:24,104 Speaker 1: So I wonder if the assistant is just for Olivia Benson. 281 00:12:24,384 --> 00:12:26,464 Speaker 2: I think if you're traveling, you would definitely have someone 282 00:12:26,504 --> 00:12:28,824 Speaker 2: who's like on the cat, the cat assistant. Yes, that's 283 00:12:28,864 --> 00:12:31,144 Speaker 2: definitely someone's job, And to be honest, it doesn't sound 284 00:12:31,184 --> 00:12:34,864 Speaker 2: that fun there's also a scene where at fourteen seconds 285 00:12:34,864 --> 00:12:37,464 Speaker 2: I believe it is into the documentary trailer, where you 286 00:12:37,464 --> 00:12:40,104 Speaker 2: can see her kissing Travis Kelcey and she's wearing one 287 00:12:40,144 --> 00:12:42,504 Speaker 2: of her Midnight's outfits from that section of the Era's 288 00:12:42,544 --> 00:12:46,304 Speaker 2: tour and everyone was kind of interested in what part 289 00:12:46,344 --> 00:12:49,504 Speaker 2: of their relationship because they were together for I think 290 00:12:49,544 --> 00:12:51,704 Speaker 2: over a year of her doing the Eras tour and 291 00:12:51,744 --> 00:12:53,984 Speaker 2: he went to a lot of different shows, and everyone 292 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:56,464 Speaker 2: was trying to figure out what part of their relationship was. 293 00:12:56,464 --> 00:12:59,224 Speaker 2: This kiss Happening was early days of dating, was after 294 00:12:59,264 --> 00:13:01,984 Speaker 2: he had been on stage with her, and it's actually 295 00:13:02,064 --> 00:13:05,664 Speaker 2: from the final show that he saw of the Era's 296 00:13:05,704 --> 00:13:10,664 Speaker 2: tour in Indianapolis, because he's wearing the black Baseball Happened 297 00:13:10,744 --> 00:13:13,544 Speaker 2: outfit that he wore to the Indianapolis show, which is 298 00:13:13,584 --> 00:13:14,424 Speaker 2: their last one. 299 00:13:14,624 --> 00:13:18,064 Speaker 1: Laura, that is excellent, Detective. It's so important. I'm giving 300 00:13:18,064 --> 00:13:20,344 Speaker 1: you ten out of ten for that. So they're like 301 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:22,584 Speaker 1: deep in a way. So did you look at that 302 00:13:22,824 --> 00:13:26,344 Speaker 1: and then cross reference You are amazing, Laura, Did I 303 00:13:27,304 --> 00:13:30,064 Speaker 1: just spillers? We need to take a moment and appreciate 304 00:13:30,304 --> 00:13:34,264 Speaker 1: Laura's dedication to the craft and getting the exact date 305 00:13:34,384 --> 00:13:36,584 Speaker 1: that this was happening. I mean, do it celebrate too much? 306 00:13:36,584 --> 00:13:38,504 Speaker 2: I feel like my mother would be super disappointed that 307 00:13:38,584 --> 00:13:40,744 Speaker 2: my journalism degree and my ten years of being a 308 00:13:40,744 --> 00:13:42,904 Speaker 2: police reporter have now come down to this. But it's 309 00:13:42,904 --> 00:13:45,904 Speaker 2: all in the details whether and Matam, what story you're doing, 310 00:13:46,184 --> 00:13:49,144 Speaker 2: Why people love the shot? So that is that is 311 00:13:49,224 --> 00:13:51,184 Speaker 2: their like where they were in their relationships. So we're 312 00:13:51,224 --> 00:13:53,264 Speaker 2: pretty much on the road to engagement that stage. And 313 00:13:53,304 --> 00:13:55,664 Speaker 2: we see a few different moments of Travis Kelsey in 314 00:13:55,704 --> 00:13:58,944 Speaker 2: the documentary. We see him rehearsing to be on stage 315 00:13:58,984 --> 00:14:00,064 Speaker 2: with her. You know how he came out with her 316 00:14:00,104 --> 00:14:03,344 Speaker 2: on stage in the coat and and so you see 317 00:14:03,344 --> 00:14:06,144 Speaker 2: them rehearsing the pickup scene. You also see a bit 318 00:14:06,144 --> 00:14:09,304 Speaker 2: of his family like and her family together, like celebrating. 319 00:14:09,384 --> 00:14:12,184 Speaker 2: So it's a very kind of also showing a lot 320 00:14:12,224 --> 00:14:14,744 Speaker 2: of their relationship, which is kind of interesting because a 321 00:14:14,784 --> 00:14:17,104 Speaker 2: lot of the criticism of the album The Life of 322 00:14:17,144 --> 00:14:19,104 Speaker 2: a Showgirl was that people thought it was going to 323 00:14:19,144 --> 00:14:21,584 Speaker 2: be like a real showgirl album, and then it was 324 00:14:21,624 --> 00:14:24,424 Speaker 2: more kind of quieter songs about her wanting to get married, 325 00:14:24,504 --> 00:14:27,464 Speaker 2: have kids, and how she deals with fame and friendship, breakups. 326 00:14:27,504 --> 00:14:29,224 Speaker 2: And I think the thread of that is that she 327 00:14:29,224 --> 00:14:31,864 Speaker 2: always said, like, it's not so much an album about 328 00:14:31,864 --> 00:14:34,224 Speaker 2: being a showgirl, it's about what was going on in 329 00:14:34,264 --> 00:14:37,104 Speaker 2: my life when I was being a showgirl on stage 330 00:14:37,104 --> 00:14:39,584 Speaker 2: and making this album, And I think, yeah, exactly. I 331 00:14:39,584 --> 00:14:41,504 Speaker 2: think that's what this documentary is. It's all like the 332 00:14:41,544 --> 00:14:44,824 Speaker 2: little moments happening behind the scenes. One of the most 333 00:14:44,864 --> 00:14:48,104 Speaker 2: important moments happened when we saw what happens at the 334 00:14:48,224 --> 00:14:49,904 Speaker 2: end of the tour, Because that's what I've always been 335 00:14:49,944 --> 00:14:53,184 Speaker 2: really interested in, is that we know she goes out 336 00:14:53,224 --> 00:14:57,144 Speaker 2: and does this whole, huge, three hour show, and that 337 00:14:57,224 --> 00:14:59,824 Speaker 2: she's on stage pretty much the whole time, except for 338 00:14:59,864 --> 00:15:01,624 Speaker 2: when she goes under the stage and does the quick 339 00:15:01,704 --> 00:15:04,824 Speaker 2: change and then pops out again. And we also know 340 00:15:04,944 --> 00:15:07,544 Speaker 2: that most of the time she runs straight from the 341 00:15:07,584 --> 00:15:11,104 Speaker 2: stage into a car that's waiting. When she was in Sydney, 342 00:15:11,184 --> 00:15:15,224 Speaker 2: her car, like the Taylor Swift motorcade, would beat everyone 343 00:15:15,264 --> 00:15:17,984 Speaker 2: out of the stadium because she gets straight into the 344 00:15:17,984 --> 00:15:19,944 Speaker 2: car and heads I guess, so she misses the traffic 345 00:15:20,024 --> 00:15:22,464 Speaker 2: so she can get home, and people would see her 346 00:15:22,504 --> 00:15:24,704 Speaker 2: car leaving before most people had even got up out 347 00:15:24,744 --> 00:15:27,784 Speaker 2: of their seats to start moving towards the exit, and 348 00:15:27,864 --> 00:15:30,544 Speaker 2: I always wondered what she did after that. 349 00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:32,184 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. 350 00:15:32,264 --> 00:15:34,424 Speaker 2: She kind of hinted it on the New Heights podcast 351 00:15:34,464 --> 00:15:37,344 Speaker 2: that she's really riled up and she has to take 352 00:15:37,344 --> 00:15:39,944 Speaker 2: a bath and she has to order room service. Mean, 353 00:15:40,024 --> 00:15:43,024 Speaker 2: how some hotels do like the late night snacking room 354 00:15:43,064 --> 00:15:44,544 Speaker 2: service menu. At the end of the night, there's only 355 00:15:44,544 --> 00:15:47,864 Speaker 2: like three shitty things available and they keep that. Yet 356 00:15:48,024 --> 00:15:50,744 Speaker 2: they keep the kitchen open. She can have a full menu. 357 00:15:50,944 --> 00:15:53,264 Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes I think about when you know, if 358 00:15:53,304 --> 00:15:55,024 Speaker 1: you've got a really big day of work, or if 359 00:15:55,024 --> 00:15:57,064 Speaker 1: you're doing a ton of interviews. I know, for me, 360 00:15:57,184 --> 00:15:59,104 Speaker 1: if I've had a really big recarp but or something 361 00:15:59,424 --> 00:16:01,984 Speaker 1: and you finish that, you've got so much adrenaline that 362 00:16:02,024 --> 00:16:04,264 Speaker 1: it's actually really hard to wind down. So if you 363 00:16:04,264 --> 00:16:07,584 Speaker 1: can imagine like timesing that by a million and doing 364 00:16:07,624 --> 00:16:11,344 Speaker 1: a three hour show, you'd be so like, why oh. 365 00:16:11,224 --> 00:16:13,184 Speaker 2: One hundred percent? And this is what again? Sometimes I 366 00:16:13,224 --> 00:16:15,104 Speaker 2: relate to tell Switch on a really weird way because 367 00:16:15,104 --> 00:16:17,064 Speaker 2: it's a lot of our job is like these huge 368 00:16:17,104 --> 00:16:20,504 Speaker 2: glamor events at night with red carpets or big interviews, 369 00:16:20,544 --> 00:16:23,024 Speaker 2: and when I get home usually around like midnight or 370 00:16:23,024 --> 00:16:25,104 Speaker 2: one am, like this sensible thing I know, because I 371 00:16:25,104 --> 00:16:26,904 Speaker 2: have to start work at like seven am the next day. 372 00:16:27,144 --> 00:16:29,384 Speaker 2: The sensible thing I know would be to go straight 373 00:16:29,424 --> 00:16:32,864 Speaker 2: to bed. But you're so wired and so awake that 374 00:16:32,944 --> 00:16:35,184 Speaker 2: it takes me a couple of hours too, to like 375 00:16:35,624 --> 00:16:38,584 Speaker 2: have a relaction shower, take your makeup of do your skincare, 376 00:16:38,984 --> 00:16:41,944 Speaker 2: watch an episode of something, listen to some music. Wind down. 377 00:16:42,024 --> 00:16:44,664 Speaker 2: So she's the same, And we have some scenes of 378 00:16:44,704 --> 00:16:48,464 Speaker 2: her in her hotel room after the show, and she 379 00:16:48,544 --> 00:16:51,424 Speaker 2: can see her just like using a makeup wipe, pulling 380 00:16:51,584 --> 00:16:54,184 Speaker 2: her fake eyelashes off. She says she does a bunch 381 00:16:54,264 --> 00:16:56,304 Speaker 2: of signing at that time. I guess because she's like 382 00:16:56,384 --> 00:16:57,664 Speaker 2: really awake and wired. 383 00:16:57,824 --> 00:16:59,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was interested to see that. She said that 384 00:16:59,624 --> 00:17:02,624 Speaker 1: she was signing like a thousand CDs or something like 385 00:17:02,704 --> 00:17:03,824 Speaker 1: that is wild. 386 00:17:03,904 --> 00:17:05,624 Speaker 2: I guess you're never really off the clock. And then 387 00:17:05,664 --> 00:17:08,624 Speaker 2: she also talks about taking this relaxing bath, and she 388 00:17:08,664 --> 00:17:10,864 Speaker 2: takes the camera cury into her bathroom and they do 389 00:17:10,944 --> 00:17:13,144 Speaker 2: like a little pan around and if you freeze on 390 00:17:13,184 --> 00:17:15,344 Speaker 2: the bathroom products that she's got stacked up on the 391 00:17:15,344 --> 00:17:17,304 Speaker 2: side of her bath, you can see the stuff that 392 00:17:17,384 --> 00:17:18,024 Speaker 2: she's using. 393 00:17:18,664 --> 00:17:20,744 Speaker 1: So what do I know this is? 394 00:17:20,784 --> 00:17:22,464 Speaker 2: Again because she doesn't do She doesn't do like a 395 00:17:22,464 --> 00:17:24,384 Speaker 2: lot of spond stuff. But I guess she probably wasn't 396 00:17:24,424 --> 00:17:26,344 Speaker 2: gonna be like I'm going to turn the bottles around 397 00:17:26,424 --> 00:17:27,144 Speaker 2: or anything. 398 00:17:26,864 --> 00:17:27,904 Speaker 1: Like has time for that. 399 00:17:28,064 --> 00:17:29,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I feel like the stage if you're trying 400 00:17:29,984 --> 00:17:31,744 Speaker 2: to show behind the scenes, and it's not that juicy. 401 00:17:31,744 --> 00:17:33,664 Speaker 2: But if anyone wants to know what Taylor Swift uses 402 00:17:33,704 --> 00:17:37,224 Speaker 2: in her personalized bath products, she uses the Doctor Barbara 403 00:17:37,304 --> 00:17:40,344 Speaker 2: Sturm anti aging body cream that was cropped up right 404 00:17:40,384 --> 00:17:42,304 Speaker 2: at there and looked like a well used bottle. So 405 00:17:42,504 --> 00:17:44,384 Speaker 2: I'm coming across some of these brands for the first time. 406 00:17:44,464 --> 00:17:46,224 Speaker 2: Beauty girls might know, but I am definitely not a 407 00:17:46,264 --> 00:17:50,304 Speaker 2: beauty girl. Tata Harper Skincare rejuvenating cleanser for eighty eight 408 00:17:50,344 --> 00:17:52,584 Speaker 2: dollars still not too bad. Again, she's a billionaire, so 409 00:17:52,664 --> 00:17:55,344 Speaker 2: that's pretty pricey for a cleanser. Yeah, not if you 410 00:17:55,424 --> 00:17:57,024 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, but you know, if any of the girls 411 00:17:57,064 --> 00:17:59,024 Speaker 2: out there want to know what she's using. When I 412 00:17:59,064 --> 00:18:02,304 Speaker 2: saw that she had her shampooing conditioner propped up there, 413 00:18:02,384 --> 00:18:05,264 Speaker 2: I zoomed in on that like a crazy person because 414 00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:07,384 Speaker 2: she has a fringe and I do too, and there's 415 00:18:07,384 --> 00:18:09,344 Speaker 2: a lot of work involved in that. I know she 416 00:18:09,384 --> 00:18:12,304 Speaker 2: has hair pieces in like every celebrity does. There's a 417 00:18:12,344 --> 00:18:14,064 Speaker 2: lot of hair pieces it. And you can see when 418 00:18:14,104 --> 00:18:16,704 Speaker 2: she like when she was doing the press rounds for 419 00:18:17,144 --> 00:18:18,544 Speaker 2: the Life of a Show Girl, like she went to 420 00:18:18,544 --> 00:18:19,944 Speaker 2: dinner in New York and she had like a very 421 00:18:19,984 --> 00:18:23,304 Speaker 2: kind of thin, just past her shoulders, straight haired look 422 00:18:23,344 --> 00:18:26,024 Speaker 2: going on, and the next night doing the late night show, 423 00:18:26,144 --> 00:18:30,104 Speaker 2: she had like super super long, ashier, very volume aus hair. 424 00:18:30,224 --> 00:18:32,544 Speaker 2: So like, it's excellent hair piece work. But I think 425 00:18:32,544 --> 00:18:35,064 Speaker 2: her natural hair is still like for what it goes through, 426 00:18:35,064 --> 00:18:37,664 Speaker 2: like still quite good. So I was zooming in on 427 00:18:37,704 --> 00:18:41,064 Speaker 2: what she uses. So she uses the Christoph Robin volumizing 428 00:18:41,184 --> 00:18:46,304 Speaker 2: Oh Champo and conditioner with rose extract because shampoo's fifty 429 00:18:46,304 --> 00:18:49,024 Speaker 2: one dollars, and I was like, do I get that. 430 00:18:49,144 --> 00:18:51,744 Speaker 1: It's really not I've even used that brand before. It's 431 00:18:51,824 --> 00:18:53,624 Speaker 1: really good. Okay, it's really really good. 432 00:18:53,704 --> 00:18:55,304 Speaker 2: I feel like these people should send us some for 433 00:18:55,504 --> 00:18:57,624 Speaker 2: giving them a shout out, although Taylor already gave them 434 00:18:57,624 --> 00:18:59,224 Speaker 2: a shout out, so they're like, we actually don't need you. 435 00:18:59,224 --> 00:18:59,944 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 436 00:18:59,984 --> 00:19:02,184 Speaker 1: I will say the one thing I was very disappointed 437 00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:03,984 Speaker 1: because I am a beauty garlier and I love it. 438 00:19:04,184 --> 00:19:05,784 Speaker 1: I hate that she was using a makeup wipe to 439 00:19:05,824 --> 00:19:06,544 Speaker 1: remove her makeup. 440 00:19:06,624 --> 00:19:07,504 Speaker 2: I did think about that. 441 00:19:07,584 --> 00:19:12,144 Speaker 1: I hate it, hate makeup out to here, but you like, 442 00:19:12,224 --> 00:19:14,424 Speaker 1: but she needed an oil cleanser, and then she needs 443 00:19:14,424 --> 00:19:16,264 Speaker 1: a foam cleanser and she's got to do the double 444 00:19:16,304 --> 00:19:19,184 Speaker 1: cleans The makeup wipe is like a sin you. She's 445 00:19:19,184 --> 00:19:20,864 Speaker 1: just gotta strip her beautiful skin. 446 00:19:20,984 --> 00:19:23,264 Speaker 2: I know. But she's got that level of show makeup, 447 00:19:23,304 --> 00:19:26,344 Speaker 2: like no cleanses really going to do she needs. 448 00:19:27,464 --> 00:19:31,064 Speaker 1: Well, this is now we're turning into the beautyfl This 449 00:19:31,104 --> 00:19:32,424 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying every day. 450 00:19:32,704 --> 00:19:34,264 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, She's just a gal 451 00:19:34,384 --> 00:19:37,384 Speaker 2: in a hotel room being like I'm using him cleansing wipe. 452 00:19:37,424 --> 00:19:39,904 Speaker 2: I don't care. And the last thing sitting on her 453 00:19:39,944 --> 00:19:42,704 Speaker 2: bathroom little next to her little shower set up was 454 00:19:42,744 --> 00:19:45,584 Speaker 2: just an ordinary razor. So I'm guessing she just goes 455 00:19:45,624 --> 00:19:48,184 Speaker 2: a little I don't think it's a complete disposal one. Yeah, 456 00:19:48,264 --> 00:19:50,624 Speaker 2: kind of like you know those single use so I 457 00:19:50,704 --> 00:19:52,544 Speaker 2: hate those. Maybe she just needs to do a like 458 00:19:52,544 --> 00:19:55,384 Speaker 2: little leg touch up before she maybe got she forgot 459 00:19:55,584 --> 00:19:57,704 Speaker 2: an emergency. She did want to say on the Ellen 460 00:19:57,744 --> 00:19:59,864 Speaker 2: DeGeneres Show when she was asked if she ever washed 461 00:19:59,864 --> 00:20:01,824 Speaker 2: her legs, you know that was a thing. Oh yeah, 462 00:20:01,904 --> 00:20:03,344 Speaker 2: that was a thing you say, like, do you wash 463 00:20:03,384 --> 00:20:05,184 Speaker 2: your legs in the shower? And she was like, well, 464 00:20:05,184 --> 00:20:07,384 Speaker 2: when I shave my legs, I soap them up. Does 465 00:20:07,424 --> 00:20:09,224 Speaker 2: that count? So I guess she's still doing the old 466 00:20:09,704 --> 00:20:13,144 Speaker 2: the quick one like quick in the bath leg shave. 467 00:20:13,264 --> 00:20:15,104 Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, Taylor Swift just 468 00:20:15,104 --> 00:20:16,904 Speaker 2: a gal like us. So they're all a little hidden 469 00:20:16,944 --> 00:20:18,664 Speaker 2: details scandalous as they are. 470 00:20:18,704 --> 00:20:21,464 Speaker 1: I loved this is like my favorite thing. I loved 471 00:20:21,464 --> 00:20:23,704 Speaker 1: this segment. This is so great. I feel like I 472 00:20:23,784 --> 00:20:25,424 Speaker 1: learned a lot and I'm very impressed. 473 00:20:25,664 --> 00:20:27,624 Speaker 2: I mean I was only from a three minute trailer. 474 00:20:27,744 --> 00:20:30,624 Speaker 2: So yes. Looking forward to December when the Heiress Tour 475 00:20:30,704 --> 00:20:33,064 Speaker 2: documentary comes out, I've got to say, out of all 476 00:20:33,064 --> 00:20:35,224 Speaker 2: the Tailor Swift releases, this is the one I'm most 477 00:20:35,224 --> 00:20:36,184 Speaker 2: excited for. Taylor. 478 00:20:36,384 --> 00:20:40,744 Speaker 1: Please, can you just invest in double cleanser? Thank you? Bye. 479 00:20:41,944 --> 00:20:44,664 Speaker 2: So back in July this year, we had a lot 480 00:20:44,664 --> 00:20:46,944 Speaker 2: of reports and then a lot of photos and then 481 00:20:46,984 --> 00:20:50,904 Speaker 2: a lot of video of superstar Katie Perry and former 482 00:20:50,944 --> 00:20:55,024 Speaker 2: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau hanging out, and a lot 483 00:20:55,024 --> 00:20:57,944 Speaker 2: of people speculated if they'd been friends for a long time. 484 00:20:58,264 --> 00:21:00,944 Speaker 2: They were both newly ish single at the time where 485 00:21:00,944 --> 00:21:03,864 Speaker 2: they were having a hot and heavy romance, and we 486 00:21:03,984 --> 00:21:06,024 Speaker 2: kind of deduced from the photos they had at least 487 00:21:06,064 --> 00:21:07,944 Speaker 2: one very intensive date day. 488 00:21:08,224 --> 00:21:09,824 Speaker 1: So yeah, back in July, they were going out for 489 00:21:09,864 --> 00:21:13,824 Speaker 1: dinner Montreal. They was spotted, you know, walking together very 490 00:21:13,904 --> 00:21:17,104 Speaker 1: public places. They were not trying to hide this, but 491 00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:22,584 Speaker 1: it kind of didn't really hit the news cycle until now. Really, yeah, I. 492 00:21:22,504 --> 00:21:24,784 Speaker 2: Guess because it felt, at least to the like public 493 00:21:24,824 --> 00:21:26,624 Speaker 2: eye that it was kind of just a quick, kind 494 00:21:26,624 --> 00:21:28,624 Speaker 2: of one date day and then it fizzled a little bit. 495 00:21:28,864 --> 00:21:30,984 Speaker 2: So we had this like documentation because they were out 496 00:21:30,984 --> 00:21:32,344 Speaker 2: and about, they weren't trying to hide it. They went 497 00:21:32,384 --> 00:21:34,544 Speaker 2: for like a really long walk with her dog. They 498 00:21:34,584 --> 00:21:36,464 Speaker 2: went to a bar late at night for a night cab, 499 00:21:36,504 --> 00:21:39,464 Speaker 2: and they went to a dinner where there were so 500 00:21:39,544 --> 00:21:42,144 Speaker 2: many photos and videos of them, like they weren't hiding 501 00:21:42,144 --> 00:21:44,144 Speaker 2: in the restaurant, they were being like quite lovey dovey. 502 00:21:44,464 --> 00:21:47,104 Speaker 2: The chef came over to personally greet them. They had 503 00:21:47,144 --> 00:21:49,544 Speaker 2: all of these cocktails, they had lobster, they had like 504 00:21:49,624 --> 00:21:52,144 Speaker 2: all of the looked like a lovely dinner and then 505 00:21:52,304 --> 00:21:54,824 Speaker 2: Justin picked up the tab afterwards and they left together. 506 00:21:55,264 --> 00:21:57,584 Speaker 2: So we had that moment, but we didn't have from 507 00:21:57,624 --> 00:22:00,104 Speaker 2: the very extensive photos that came out of them in 508 00:22:00,144 --> 00:22:02,304 Speaker 2: the park, walking together, heading into the bar, and the 509 00:22:02,304 --> 00:22:04,344 Speaker 2: whole dinner at the restaurant, they looked lovely dovey, but 510 00:22:04,384 --> 00:22:07,944 Speaker 2: we didn't have any actual kissing action or anything like that. 511 00:22:08,064 --> 00:22:10,144 Speaker 2: So it was kind of thought, like, are they just 512 00:22:10,184 --> 00:22:12,344 Speaker 2: like really touchy, phelly friends. Is it just like you 513 00:22:12,344 --> 00:22:14,784 Speaker 2: have like one day And that's kind of it until 514 00:22:14,904 --> 00:22:17,344 Speaker 2: all these new photos of them on her yacht in 515 00:22:17,424 --> 00:22:18,664 Speaker 2: Santa Barbara have come out. 516 00:22:18,984 --> 00:22:21,784 Speaker 1: Yes, and there is no mistaking that there is a 517 00:22:21,784 --> 00:22:25,144 Speaker 1: lot of PDA going on. They're very very snuggly, they're 518 00:22:25,224 --> 00:22:29,304 Speaker 1: hugging each other, they're kissing. They look pretty loved up. 519 00:22:29,624 --> 00:22:32,464 Speaker 1: How do you feel about this relationship because I feel 520 00:22:32,464 --> 00:22:35,224 Speaker 1: like with Justin Trudeau, you know, he's a political figure, 521 00:22:35,224 --> 00:22:38,984 Speaker 1: he's the former Prime minister. His ex wife, Sophie Gregua 522 00:22:39,184 --> 00:22:42,704 Speaker 1: Trudeau and him divorced after eighteen years together back in 523 00:22:42,744 --> 00:22:45,344 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Now, I kind of did a little 524 00:22:45,344 --> 00:22:47,304 Speaker 1: bit of deep dive on this because I didn't really 525 00:22:47,384 --> 00:22:49,944 Speaker 1: know much about their divorce because obviously it was he's 526 00:22:49,944 --> 00:22:52,344 Speaker 1: the Canadian Prime Minister. We don't get that much on 527 00:22:52,464 --> 00:22:55,504 Speaker 1: him here in our day to day now. Apparently the 528 00:22:55,584 --> 00:23:01,584 Speaker 1: relationship deteriorated after eighteen years because of Justin's workload, which 529 00:23:01,624 --> 00:23:03,904 Speaker 1: I think makes sense. There were also some reports that 530 00:23:03,944 --> 00:23:07,024 Speaker 1: he cheated on her. Neither of them have come out 531 00:23:07,064 --> 00:23:10,344 Speaker 1: publicly and said anything negative. She's got like the most 532 00:23:10,504 --> 00:23:14,824 Speaker 1: incredible Instagram. She's like a wellness and like life coach. Now. 533 00:23:15,304 --> 00:23:17,784 Speaker 1: The reason I bring up the ex wife is because 534 00:23:18,024 --> 00:23:20,344 Speaker 1: the other day she posted on her Instagram, Are Real 535 00:23:20,504 --> 00:23:24,304 Speaker 1: and the reel was talking about letting go of people 536 00:23:24,384 --> 00:23:27,744 Speaker 1: that you love, effectively that phrase of if you love something, 537 00:23:27,784 --> 00:23:29,224 Speaker 1: you have to let it go. If it comes back, 538 00:23:29,264 --> 00:23:31,304 Speaker 1: then it's meant to be blah blah blah. Now what 539 00:23:31,424 --> 00:23:34,824 Speaker 1: she said in this instagram, nothing we love is meant 540 00:23:34,864 --> 00:23:37,744 Speaker 1: to be kept forever. People, places, moments, they're all meant 541 00:23:37,784 --> 00:23:40,784 Speaker 1: to be lived, not possessed. And a lot of people 542 00:23:40,784 --> 00:23:43,744 Speaker 1: are sort of connecting that as like a cryptic way 543 00:23:43,784 --> 00:23:47,024 Speaker 1: of referring to her relationship with Justin that she had 544 00:23:47,064 --> 00:23:49,024 Speaker 1: to let this love of her life go. 545 00:23:49,664 --> 00:23:51,824 Speaker 2: Yes, that's super interesting, and I think it actually kind 546 00:23:51,824 --> 00:23:54,424 Speaker 2: of leads to this idea of why Justin and Katie 547 00:23:54,424 --> 00:23:58,144 Speaker 2: are being allowing themselves to be photographed in certain ways, 548 00:23:58,304 --> 00:24:00,224 Speaker 2: because the thing about all the photos of them is 549 00:24:00,224 --> 00:24:02,344 Speaker 2: that they are all pat pictures. They haven't posed for 550 00:24:02,384 --> 00:24:05,264 Speaker 2: any pictures, they haven't posted any photos, but they have 551 00:24:05,384 --> 00:24:08,664 Speaker 2: gone to some very public places, and they're sort of 552 00:24:08,704 --> 00:24:11,984 Speaker 2: showing this like very romantic excite of their relationship, which 553 00:24:12,024 --> 00:24:14,664 Speaker 2: I think when you're that famous, especially like Katie Perry 554 00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:17,624 Speaker 2: famous and she's had her love life like so publicly 555 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:20,304 Speaker 2: dissected for so many years, and she's just broken up 556 00:24:20,304 --> 00:24:23,184 Speaker 2: with Orlando Bloom and there was so much speculation around 557 00:24:23,184 --> 00:24:27,344 Speaker 2: their relationship. And even Justin Trudeau and Sophie, like when 558 00:24:27,384 --> 00:24:29,464 Speaker 2: he was the Canadian Prime minister, he did have like 559 00:24:29,504 --> 00:24:31,704 Speaker 2: a lot of worldwide fame because he was young, he 560 00:24:31,744 --> 00:24:33,584 Speaker 2: was hot. You know, he would get up and make 561 00:24:33,624 --> 00:24:36,664 Speaker 2: these really charismatic speeches that would be shared over social media. 562 00:24:37,144 --> 00:24:40,144 Speaker 2: Videos of him and Sophie together would circulate because they 563 00:24:40,144 --> 00:24:41,424 Speaker 2: were kind of like it was almost like they were 564 00:24:41,464 --> 00:24:43,704 Speaker 2: like the president first lady of like an old school 565 00:24:43,744 --> 00:24:44,984 Speaker 2: TV movie or something like that. 566 00:24:45,024 --> 00:24:48,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very JFK. You know, he was handsome, 567 00:24:48,584 --> 00:24:52,064 Speaker 1: Well he is handsome, but yeah, he's fifty three, she's fifty. 568 00:24:52,264 --> 00:24:55,464 Speaker 1: They were a gorgeous couple, quite popular. I think his 569 00:24:55,544 --> 00:24:58,104 Speaker 1: popularity kind of decreased a little bit in the later years, 570 00:24:58,464 --> 00:25:01,304 Speaker 1: but yeah, he was very popular, particularly the ladies. 571 00:25:01,744 --> 00:25:03,424 Speaker 2: Yes, so I think when they were both their first 572 00:25:03,504 --> 00:25:06,664 Speaker 2: very public relationship after their breakup, I'm assuming in their camps, 573 00:25:06,704 --> 00:25:08,784 Speaker 2: like a lot of speculation around how they roll it out. 574 00:25:09,144 --> 00:25:12,184 Speaker 2: So after they had that full day in like Canada 575 00:25:12,304 --> 00:25:14,624 Speaker 2: having this very romantic moment, we didn't see them again. 576 00:25:14,744 --> 00:25:16,584 Speaker 2: I'm sure they were together, but they were letting the 577 00:25:16,624 --> 00:25:19,864 Speaker 2: world assume they had fizzled out. And then these photos 578 00:25:19,904 --> 00:25:22,744 Speaker 2: on the yacht. It's kind of hard because obviously paparazzi 579 00:25:22,784 --> 00:25:26,104 Speaker 2: have taken these photos with like a very very long lens. 580 00:25:26,544 --> 00:25:28,664 Speaker 2: Some of them are so blurry, like the ones on 581 00:25:28,704 --> 00:25:32,384 Speaker 2: the lower deck. There's ones of Katie and Justin standing 582 00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:34,784 Speaker 2: on the top level of the yacht, and they're the 583 00:25:34,784 --> 00:25:37,144 Speaker 2: ones have kind of gone viral because the paparazzi have 584 00:25:37,224 --> 00:25:39,664 Speaker 2: just been able to get such a clear shot, which 585 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:41,784 Speaker 2: they can always do. When celebrities are on yachts, like 586 00:25:41,784 --> 00:25:43,464 Speaker 2: it's a lot harder to police than if they're like 587 00:25:43,464 --> 00:25:46,224 Speaker 2: in a private residence or a building. And you can 588 00:25:46,224 --> 00:25:49,104 Speaker 2: see justin kind of like cradling Katie. You can see 589 00:25:49,184 --> 00:25:51,504 Speaker 2: him like his hands on her lower back and her 590 00:25:51,584 --> 00:25:55,224 Speaker 2: like gazing in him adoringly. And I'm sure they would 591 00:25:55,224 --> 00:25:57,584 Speaker 2: have known that, especially off the coast in Santa Barbara, 592 00:25:57,664 --> 00:26:01,664 Speaker 2: which is a very kind of celeb heavy spot, they 593 00:26:01,704 --> 00:26:03,944 Speaker 2: would know that they are a paparazzi around there. But 594 00:26:03,984 --> 00:26:05,664 Speaker 2: it seems like they were kind of happy for that 595 00:26:05,784 --> 00:26:08,624 Speaker 2: to be like the next reveal of their relationship, because 596 00:26:08,664 --> 00:26:10,584 Speaker 2: we do know that celebrities like if they want to 597 00:26:10,664 --> 00:26:13,744 Speaker 2: keep their relationship a secret, they can very much. It's 598 00:26:13,824 --> 00:26:17,424 Speaker 2: so so rare that a celebrity would be sprung by 599 00:26:17,464 --> 00:26:19,744 Speaker 2: the paparazzi in this day and age. 600 00:26:19,824 --> 00:26:23,424 Speaker 1: It's like we're stilly in California where it's like celeb Central. 601 00:26:24,064 --> 00:26:25,904 Speaker 1: It's not like it's some random spot that they know 602 00:26:26,064 --> 00:26:27,344 Speaker 1: there are perhaps everywhere. 603 00:26:27,424 --> 00:26:29,264 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I don't think Katie Perry's at the level 604 00:26:29,264 --> 00:26:32,024 Speaker 2: where she did it for the paps or she organized 605 00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:33,744 Speaker 2: them to be there or anything like that. If she'd 606 00:26:33,784 --> 00:26:35,944 Speaker 2: organized for them to be there, they would have been 607 00:26:36,064 --> 00:26:38,824 Speaker 2: a lot more curated. Like the Sudden Foster Hugh Jackman 608 00:26:38,904 --> 00:26:42,144 Speaker 2: announcement photos when they're walking in there's that beautiful light 609 00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,024 Speaker 2: and they're smiling and you can see that they're not 610 00:26:44,104 --> 00:26:46,984 Speaker 2: upset by the photographer, and you can tell the photographer's 611 00:26:47,064 --> 00:26:49,184 Speaker 2: really close, not using a long lens like those were 612 00:26:49,224 --> 00:26:50,864 Speaker 2: set up shots, and that were so different to the 613 00:26:50,864 --> 00:26:53,024 Speaker 2: ones that were taking of Sutton Foster later on, where 614 00:26:53,024 --> 00:26:55,304 Speaker 2: you can see that they are long lens. I think 615 00:26:55,304 --> 00:26:56,944 Speaker 2: it was more and so with Katie and justin that 616 00:26:56,984 --> 00:26:59,864 Speaker 2: they knew that that was an area that paparazzi would 617 00:26:59,864 --> 00:27:01,984 Speaker 2: be in, but they were happy to have their photo 618 00:27:02,104 --> 00:27:04,944 Speaker 2: taken as a way of kind of like almost like 619 00:27:05,064 --> 00:27:06,784 Speaker 2: soft launching their relationship. 620 00:27:06,904 --> 00:27:10,184 Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing that I got though from Sophie's post 621 00:27:10,424 --> 00:27:12,104 Speaker 1: about that I was looking at some of the comments 622 00:27:12,104 --> 00:27:13,864 Speaker 1: and they were like, Oh, how could you do this 623 00:27:13,904 --> 00:27:15,784 Speaker 1: to yeh blah blah blah. That's not the sense that 624 00:27:15,824 --> 00:27:18,504 Speaker 1: I got from the post. I feel like it's been 625 00:27:18,544 --> 00:27:22,504 Speaker 1: two years since the relationship ended. From all reports, they're 626 00:27:22,544 --> 00:27:25,784 Speaker 1: still co parenting. They've got three kids together seventeen, sixteen, 627 00:27:25,824 --> 00:27:29,344 Speaker 1: and eleven. They've never said anything negative about each other. 628 00:27:29,904 --> 00:27:32,104 Speaker 1: It's been two years. I think it's okay for them 629 00:27:32,144 --> 00:27:32,664 Speaker 1: to move on. 630 00:27:33,104 --> 00:27:35,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just because they're both out of relationships 631 00:27:35,584 --> 00:27:37,624 Speaker 2: and they've both got kids, and they're so her profile. 632 00:27:37,664 --> 00:27:40,424 Speaker 2: If they were launched in a different way, Katie and Justin, like, 633 00:27:40,504 --> 00:27:43,424 Speaker 2: there could be a bit of public kind of animosity 634 00:27:43,464 --> 00:27:46,944 Speaker 2: towards them. With Katie, especially because the way that that 635 00:27:47,024 --> 00:27:50,064 Speaker 2: breakup happened. A lot of the headlines and fans speculation 636 00:27:50,904 --> 00:27:54,144 Speaker 2: were pointing towards the fact that Orlando Bloom had broken 637 00:27:54,224 --> 00:27:56,264 Speaker 2: up with her, and it came off the fact that 638 00:27:56,304 --> 00:27:58,624 Speaker 2: she'd had a bit of a rough year with her 639 00:27:58,664 --> 00:28:01,024 Speaker 2: new album not being received as well as she thought 640 00:28:01,064 --> 00:28:03,704 Speaker 2: it would. Her concert ended up selling really well, but 641 00:28:03,744 --> 00:28:06,464 Speaker 2: they were like negative reviews for the start, even though 642 00:28:06,464 --> 00:28:08,224 Speaker 2: like people who actually went to it said it was great. 643 00:28:08,584 --> 00:28:10,544 Speaker 2: There was a whole space debarkle. There was all these 644 00:28:10,584 --> 00:28:12,984 Speaker 2: other bits and pieces where she was kind of having 645 00:28:12,984 --> 00:28:15,504 Speaker 2: a difficult time in the public eye. And then the 646 00:28:15,544 --> 00:28:18,184 Speaker 2: news came that she and Orlando had broken up after 647 00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:20,744 Speaker 2: like nearly a decade together and having a daughter, and 648 00:28:20,784 --> 00:28:22,784 Speaker 2: all these things, and then he was sort of seen 649 00:28:22,864 --> 00:28:26,224 Speaker 2: partying in Italy with their friends, and he had previously 650 00:28:26,264 --> 00:28:29,024 Speaker 2: flown to Australia to visit her on the leg of 651 00:28:29,064 --> 00:28:31,544 Speaker 2: her tour here. So the idea people were kind of 652 00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:33,784 Speaker 2: putting out was that he was like embarrassed by her 653 00:28:33,984 --> 00:28:35,744 Speaker 2: or like he had had enough and he broke up 654 00:28:35,784 --> 00:28:37,704 Speaker 2: with her, and then he went off on this big 655 00:28:37,744 --> 00:28:40,224 Speaker 2: adventure and he kept getting spotted with all these like 656 00:28:40,424 --> 00:28:42,624 Speaker 2: memow people thought him seen he were dating for a 657 00:28:42,664 --> 00:28:44,544 Speaker 2: while as his whole thing, so it was like she 658 00:28:44,664 --> 00:28:46,664 Speaker 2: was seen to lose the breakup, even though I'm sure 659 00:28:46,664 --> 00:28:47,904 Speaker 2: that's absolutely not what happened. 660 00:28:47,984 --> 00:28:49,824 Speaker 1: Well, it definitely doesn't feel like that now, Like it 661 00:28:49,864 --> 00:28:52,544 Speaker 1: feels like Katie is definitely winning now. Although do you 662 00:28:52,584 --> 00:28:55,264 Speaker 1: think he's a catch? Is justin Trudeau? Like a catch? 663 00:28:55,624 --> 00:28:56,744 Speaker 1: Is he giving? Jfkava. 664 00:28:57,224 --> 00:28:58,744 Speaker 2: I think the two of them have come out of 665 00:28:58,744 --> 00:29:00,464 Speaker 2: this really well, because all we know about them is 666 00:29:00,464 --> 00:29:03,384 Speaker 2: that they go on beautiful long walks, have lobster together, 667 00:29:03,904 --> 00:29:07,304 Speaker 2: have like fancy cocktails, and then passionately make out on 668 00:29:07,384 --> 00:29:09,784 Speaker 2: yachts when he's like cradling her. So I think they've 669 00:29:09,784 --> 00:29:12,104 Speaker 2: come out of this looking really good and people are 670 00:29:12,104 --> 00:29:15,264 Speaker 2: like on board with their relationship, and a few people 671 00:29:15,264 --> 00:29:17,824 Speaker 2: have said, like, oh, what about the age difference because 672 00:29:17,864 --> 00:29:20,224 Speaker 2: she's forty and he's fifty three. I mean I'm less 673 00:29:20,224 --> 00:29:22,184 Speaker 2: stressed about it when people are forty and fifty, like 674 00:29:22,224 --> 00:29:24,544 Speaker 2: everyone's an adult. Then yeah, I'd be worse it was 675 00:29:24,544 --> 00:29:25,824 Speaker 2: like a forty or and twenty year old. 676 00:29:25,824 --> 00:29:28,624 Speaker 1: No, that doesn't bother me. The fifty three and the forty, yeah, 677 00:29:28,664 --> 00:29:30,624 Speaker 1: I guess I think that's an issue. He's got the 678 00:29:30,664 --> 00:29:34,304 Speaker 1: same vibe as Orlando. Oh you're dark, yeah, you know, 679 00:29:34,424 --> 00:29:35,744 Speaker 1: dark and handsome kind of thing. 680 00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:37,264 Speaker 2: Like he'd want to read a book at night instead 681 00:29:37,304 --> 00:29:38,824 Speaker 2: of watch a trassy TV show. 682 00:29:38,864 --> 00:29:39,344 Speaker 1: That's the vibe. 683 00:29:39,384 --> 00:29:42,064 Speaker 2: I yet, Yeah, I just I would never lightly outdoors 684 00:29:42,064 --> 00:29:43,504 Speaker 2: the dated politician. 685 00:29:44,104 --> 00:29:46,264 Speaker 1: I mean he's a retired politician. Yeah, I guess. 686 00:29:46,304 --> 00:29:48,184 Speaker 2: But he's got nothing but time to go on tour 687 00:29:48,224 --> 00:29:49,784 Speaker 2: with her and hang out with her. And maybe that 688 00:29:49,864 --> 00:29:52,744 Speaker 2: also is what she needs because she's on this huge, 689 00:29:52,784 --> 00:29:56,304 Speaker 2: like big next phase of her career and maybe she 690 00:29:56,304 --> 00:29:58,264 Speaker 2: needs someone who's just going to come along for the riot, 691 00:29:58,304 --> 00:30:00,384 Speaker 2: who's already done his like big career move and is 692 00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:01,224 Speaker 2: just looking to hang out. 693 00:30:01,304 --> 00:30:03,784 Speaker 1: It just reminds me of the Carrie bradshot when Carrie 694 00:30:03,824 --> 00:30:07,224 Speaker 1: was dating, Yeah, that politician, and like he got all 695 00:30:07,224 --> 00:30:09,864 Speaker 1: embarrassed of her and then she just like reveals that 696 00:30:09,904 --> 00:30:11,424 Speaker 1: he patd he said it on him. 697 00:30:11,504 --> 00:30:15,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, classic, classic, right episode And also that's the one 698 00:30:15,384 --> 00:30:17,744 Speaker 2: relationship Sara Jessica Parker said, if and just like that 699 00:30:17,824 --> 00:30:19,864 Speaker 2: was going to continue, she would have John Sluttery back 700 00:30:19,904 --> 00:30:22,144 Speaker 2: to redo that. I think it would be a hugely 701 00:30:22,144 --> 00:30:25,624 Speaker 2: different story if Justin Trudeau was like running to be 702 00:30:25,704 --> 00:30:28,864 Speaker 2: a politician at the moment or campaigning. But because he's 703 00:30:28,864 --> 00:30:30,704 Speaker 2: done with that, he can kind of date whoever he 704 00:30:30,744 --> 00:30:32,544 Speaker 2: wants now. It's gonna affect him. 705 00:30:32,584 --> 00:30:34,624 Speaker 1: He's clearly off lash now and he's allowed to do 706 00:30:34,664 --> 00:30:36,744 Speaker 1: what he wants. Yeah, so we did look at the 707 00:30:36,744 --> 00:30:38,344 Speaker 1: paparazzi photos. We are a bit trash. 708 00:30:38,384 --> 00:30:40,824 Speaker 2: We won't post them, but yeah, I'm kind of interesting 709 00:30:40,904 --> 00:30:44,344 Speaker 2: to see where they make their next public debut because, 710 00:30:44,384 --> 00:30:46,624 Speaker 2: as we were saying, they're being very calculated about it, 711 00:30:46,704 --> 00:30:48,984 Speaker 2: and I think it's a bit strategic in the way 712 00:30:48,984 --> 00:30:50,664 Speaker 2: they're doing it to kind of get the public on 713 00:30:50,704 --> 00:30:53,704 Speaker 2: their site, which you have to do when you're that famous, because, 714 00:30:53,744 --> 00:30:55,704 Speaker 2: as we know, celebrities, if they don't want to be seen. 715 00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:59,104 Speaker 2: There's private entrances, there's areas you can go. We saw 716 00:30:59,144 --> 00:31:01,864 Speaker 2: it recently in the Victoria Beckham documentary where she and 717 00:31:01,944 --> 00:31:06,264 Speaker 2: her documentary crew are stumbling through little back doors, through kitchens, 718 00:31:06,664 --> 00:31:09,424 Speaker 2: through like waiting areas, and she's saying to the camera crew, 719 00:31:09,464 --> 00:31:12,024 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to come this very unelegant way, but 720 00:31:12,144 --> 00:31:14,904 Speaker 2: this paparazzi outside, And so she knows how to get 721 00:31:14,984 --> 00:31:17,744 Speaker 2: dropped underground. Go through the kitchen, go out through the kitchen, 722 00:31:17,864 --> 00:31:19,984 Speaker 2: and you can go to whole as we know, Kylie 723 00:31:20,024 --> 00:31:21,504 Speaker 2: jenn are the only reason we know that she's in 724 00:31:21,584 --> 00:31:25,624 Speaker 2: every city, Timothy Shalami is is by tracking her private jet. 725 00:31:26,104 --> 00:31:28,424 Speaker 2: But she goes to cities for weeks, and she goes 726 00:31:28,424 --> 00:31:30,024 Speaker 2: out to dinners, and she goes to events, and you 727 00:31:30,064 --> 00:31:30,744 Speaker 2: just never see her. 728 00:31:30,824 --> 00:31:33,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about it. A goods lift sees more 729 00:31:33,744 --> 00:31:36,784 Speaker 1: celebrity action, yeah than an actual lift. 730 00:31:36,984 --> 00:31:39,784 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah. Kitchens and Paris and New York and 731 00:31:39,824 --> 00:31:42,984 Speaker 2: all those backdoor entrances and underground parking, but they're the 732 00:31:43,024 --> 00:31:45,904 Speaker 2: real hotspots in eure celebrities so interested to see what 733 00:31:45,944 --> 00:31:47,384 Speaker 2: these two crazy kids do next. 734 00:31:47,464 --> 00:31:49,744 Speaker 1: Definitely here for this relationship. I like it. Thank you 735 00:31:49,784 --> 00:31:51,824 Speaker 1: so much for listening to the Spill today. If you 736 00:31:51,824 --> 00:31:53,424 Speaker 1: love our show, the best thing that you can do 737 00:31:53,584 --> 00:31:56,424 Speaker 1: is rate and review it wherever you listen. The Spill 738 00:31:56,464 --> 00:31:58,544 Speaker 1: is produced by Many. She is sworn with sound production 739 00:31:58,664 --> 00:32:05,904 Speaker 1: by Scott's Stronach. Bye Bye