WEBVTT - Seize the Bébé // Twenty tips on travel with tiny humans 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome to the Sees the Ya Podcast. Busy and happy, 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.880 but tired and worn, just some of the feelings when 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.600 baby is born. There's magic, elation, there's chaos and tears, 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.280 but everyone goes through the same hopes and fears. So 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.280 this is a segment we hope helps you feel supported 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.400 and valid. The mum Juggles reel the good, bad, the ugly, 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.000 the best and worst day. It's part of the journey 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.560 to seize the Babe. I'm Sarah Davidson, a lawyer turned 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.960 entrepreneur who hung up the suits and heels to co 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.880 found Macha Maiden, a Macha Milk Bar, become a TV 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.800 and radio presenter, and of course host The Sees the 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.720 Ya Podcast. This year, I added motherhood to that list, 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:38.600 which is the best job I've ever had with our 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.840 beautiful baby Teddy, and this segment was designed to house 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.280 all the conversations we've been having about parenthood. We'll still 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.839 do our regular episodes, and just like real life, it's 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.520 a constant balance between our parent identity and everything else. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.200 I hope you guys enjoy this segment as much as 0:00:54.240 --> 0:01:04.200 I have enjoyed creating it. Hello, Lovely neighborhood, Welcome to 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.240 our second episode of Seiza Babe. Thank you all so 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.080 so much for the lovely feedback on our debut episode 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.720 last week with Jen covering the Juggle. I'm just so 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.080 glad it ended up being as reassuring for some of 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.200 you as it was for me, And I think it 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.720 was such a good one to start with because it 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.160 was like a real time dear diary moment. I had 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.800 been really struggling with the juggle and finding the right 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.560 balance between work and parenthood and life, and Jen had 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:36.559 been such a role model and great support at that time, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.680 drawing on the things that had come up in her 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.800 book on the juggle, so it all just seemed to 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.679 work out really well. I'm already enjoying this segment so much, 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.120 being able to answer all the mum questions that you 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.960 guys have in so much more detail than I can 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.320 on socials. And it probably also is easier to listen 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.640 to and be more real or vulnerable when you actually 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.880 get to hear someone say it rather than read what 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.960 they've typed, so hopefully it's more enjoyable for that reason. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.520 And we're going back to back just for this week. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.800 Firstly because I've oji answers on this topic traveling with 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.600 a baby as our second topic pretty much since Italy, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.160 which is now months ago. I keep saying, I promise 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.960 I'll do it, and I haven't until now. But that's 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.160 why this segment is so great, because now it has 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.880 somewhere to live. And secondly because we are freshly back 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.360 from more travel with Teddy to Sydney a couple of 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.480 days ago for south By Southwest, and then are going overseas. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.399 Again tomorrow with him. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.480 Well it will be tomorrow by the time this is published, 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.000 so it just seems really timely because I think, you know, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.040 there'll probably be questions again about packing and flying with him, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.079 and yeah, this will just be a really easy way 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.000 to direct you, guys to all the brain dump and 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.240 the most detail I can possibly give on how we 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.680 prepare for those of you who aren't as interested in 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.800 the parenthood content, which is absolutely fine. We will be 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.960 back next week with a regular interview episode and then 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:59.200 those will keep dropping fortnightly. For today, though, I thought 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.120 the easiest way to s set this one out was 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.600 to give you the top twenty tips I've found useful 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.680 traveling with Teddy so far, because you guys know, I 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.200 love a tangent, and if I don't kind of have 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.320 a list, this could we could be here forever. Sometimes 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.040 I think it's going to be shorter when I do 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.720 a monologue, but it often ends up being longer because 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.880 there's no one to rain me in. I must add 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.600 a disclaimer quickly for this segment overall that my inner 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.240 A type is so tempted to try and make this 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:29.560 segment a neutral and totally comprehensive layout of the entire 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.360 landscape on each topic, so that every single option that 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.960 you have is covered in depth. But the Juggle episode 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.920 will tell you I simply don't have the time or 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.400 energy to do the research that that requires, even though 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.360 I want to become like a one stop shop for 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:45.120 every single. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.240 Aspect of each topic. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.360 These episodes instead are simply me answering your particular questions 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.680 that have come up over and over again from my 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.880 personal anecdotal experiences, based on, yes, a lot of research, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:02.119 but also based on and my personal choices and values. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.360 The fact that I often was recommended something by a 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.680 friend and didn't bother trying anything else. So often I 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:12.560 can't actually speak to other options, like if something works 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.920 the first time, I just didn't really look at anywhere else. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.320 It also is based on Teddy's age at the time 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.320 that we traveled. For example, this is more about babies 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.159 and not toddlers, so of course there'll be things that 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.000 a bit different. But I'm sure, of course you guys 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.120 know that I just felt the need to remind everyone. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.160 That means I'm sure I'll miss many other great options 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.200 or tips on these subjects. I'm sure I'll also forget 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.320 things that were relevant, but just keep in mind that 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.040 you know, of all the things I've learned so far 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.360 in parenthood, it is that every baby, and every parent 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.240 and then every family is completely different, and even my 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.479 own answers will probably differ in future chapters of our life. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.400 So for context, our biggest trip was with Teddy at 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.520 four months old, and Italy was before he had started 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.839 solids and before he was crawl, so of course that 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.480 will be relevant too, and I'm sure that once it 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.040 is I will probably have different or more comprehensive advice. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:14.240 So tip number one, it is so normal and completely 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.159 valid to be nervous about traveling with a baby, whether 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.599 it's the first time or the second time, or whatever 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.359 time you're up to. It is truly really different to 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.920 any other travel that you've done before, and you guys 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.120 know we've traveled extensively, so it was, you know, a 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.839 really quite abrupt change from what we were used to. 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.600 But my top tip, really before we get into any 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.159 of the details, is that, like parenting overall, how good 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.719 a time you have on your trip is so impacted 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.560 by your expectations and the mindset or perspective that you 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.120 start with, which kind of sounds really wishy washy, but 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.039 it really is the best tip that I possibly have 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.480 on this topic. And I think people so often say, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.719 why would you even travel with a baby? It's like 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.720 just parenting but doing it somewhere else, which is absolutely true. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.400 You are still doing you know, the herds at home 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.520 are the same hards that you end up doing overseas 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:07.240 or interstate. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:08.320 That doesn't kind of. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.599 Necessarily align with what you think a holiday should look like. 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.440 So it's not necessarily like a lie down, have sleep 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.240 ins holiday, because yeah, you're doing parenting, except without the 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.320 comforts that you usually have. But at the same time, 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.320 I flipped that and was like, if you're parenting at home, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.279 you might as well do the parenting somewhere else, So exactly. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.760 Traveling with a baby is parenting, but just somewhere else. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.880 And that's why it's beautiful, Because it is somewhere else. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.480 Why not do it in a beautiful place and have 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.120 a wonderful experience. Just because your life has changed and 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.200 you can't do the trouble you used to do, doesn't 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.280 mean you shouldn't still try and see amazing places. And 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.520 if you're going for an occasion, it doesn't mean you 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.600 shouldn't still try and make that work. You shouldn't have 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.280 to miss out on everything just because you can't do 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.640 it the same way that you wanted to before. And 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.599 at least for us, travel has enriched who I am 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.400 as a person so much in my life, and you 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.159 can see that directly in your child too. Teddy grew 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:13.640 so much from seeing different faces, experiencing different smells and sounds, 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.640 and even like airports exposed him to environments that he'd 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.720 never been in before. He changed so much while we 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.440 were away, and like, one of the weirdest things is 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.160 also that he was born in almost winter was a 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.000 cold weather. He'd never been in hot weather. Like even that, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.360 it just kind of challenges them and extends them in 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.400 a way that really helps you a little one developed, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.400 So I think, don't let the sort of fear of 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.400 it being hard be a deterrent. And yeah, that quote 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:45.000 that it's just trap parenting overseas, that's true, but that's 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:46.480 kind of also the best part of it. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.240 If you want to do it, it's so worth it. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.440 And I have Victoria Divine from She's on the Money 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.840 to thank for really pushing me to see that that, yes, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.840 it's hard, but why wouldn't you do it? It's so 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.920 much less hard than you think, but also the better 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.800 it's are so much greater than you think. So that 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.240 brings me to number two, which is similar. And that 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.760 is another thing that someone said to me. I think 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.960 it was when maybe when we were during actually on 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.840 the trip, and I had said that, you know, Teddy 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.880 was quite jet lagged when we first got there, and 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.880 you know, there were really hard parts, of course, but 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:23.320 the quote that they used was, of course, it is 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.800 really hard. Realistically, it is hard to travel with a baby. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.280 It's not like the easiest, most relaxing thing ever. So 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:34.880 that's having realistic expectations. But funnily enough, you only remember 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.440 the good bits. So even though when you're in it 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.280 there's lots of hard parts, like logistically hard, there might 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.760 be some meltdowns. It's funny that, like you, I've already 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.439 forgotten those. I've already forgotten those, and in the forefront 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.679 of my mind are the happy memories. And that's not 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.640 just traveling with children. I feel like that's the same 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.880 with any hard experience. It's so hard at the time, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.280 but even pain, it's like when you're not feeling pain, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.800 you forget what it feels like. You know logically that 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.000 you had that experience, but like you can't remember it. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.560 So when people run marathons, of course it's hard and 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.600 it hurts, but all they remember afterwards is the endorphins 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.880 from the experience or what they learned or how accomplished 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.320 they felt. And so keeping that in mind also really 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.640 helped me as well. It's hard, but you'll only remember 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.360 the good bits. You'll have the happy memories forever and 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.640 you won't remember the hard or you might remember it, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.840 but it won't be like the overwhelming thing that you 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.920 take away. And like, for example, the flight, if it 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.800 goes really well, it's a bonus, but in the worst 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:35.200 case scenario, if it's awful, it's still like maximum it's 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.880 still only twenty four hours of your life. Like that's 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.880 the furthest a way you could be flying. And even 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.480 if it's awful, like once it's over, it's over, and 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.280 then it's done. It's like such in the scheme of life, 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.760 it's such a small blip on the radar. So those 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.920 two things was like really about how you go into 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.560 the experience. It controls what kind of a good time 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:54.959 you have or if you don't have a good time. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.600 If you go into it thinking it's going to be hard, 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:57.959 it's going to be awful. We're not going to be 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.360 able to lie down and have you know, by the 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.280 pool and endless reading books and sleep in, then sure 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.440 it will probably be disappointing. But if you go into 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.320 it knowing that, then it sets you up really well. Okay, 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.000 Number three is I'm just a brief touch on the 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.200 admin and is this information is kind of broadly available, 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.920 so I won't really need to go through it that much. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.800 But one of the things I forgot until quite late 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.680 is that babies need a passport and that can take 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.839 some time. Luckily, there is an expedited option if you 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.520 leave it as late as I did. I think it 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:30.000 took us. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:30.679 Maybe three days. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.800 But you also have to go and get them a 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.920 passport photo, which is a lot when they're little and 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.800 they can't sit up by themselves, and it's you know, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.960 their first passport, so there's a bit more paperwork and 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.120 you have to get everything right. So just don't forget 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:44.520 that if you are going away, you do need to 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.040 get them a passport, and depending on where you're going, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.480 also look up the immunizations that they need. So that's 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.240 just one thing that it sounds obvious, but when you're 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.520 in the depths of early parenthood, nothing's obvious, and most 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.960 things don't retain you know, aren't retained in your head 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.080 that easily, so fe fully in the list of the 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.400 top twenty things. This helps you to remember that number four. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:05.840 Packing. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.880 This is an area where I got so many questions, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:13.079 and I actually published a packing list that I won't 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.000 just read out, but I've posted and I'll share the 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.760 link in the show notes. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.160 To that, like actually what we took. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:23.160 But the tip here is that I think you have 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.080 the best experience that you can when you have the 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.720 least variables from your normal routine, because little ones thrive 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.920 on routine and they're going through so many changes in 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.760 time zone depending on where you are, obviously, but even 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.400 if you're going domestically within the same time zone, getting 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.200 on a plane is a lot. They're going to a 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.840 new obviously, your accommodation is going to be different to 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.960 your normal house. They'll be sleeping in a different bed. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.760 So pack for the least variables, so that for us 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.920 that meant bring your own sheets, bring things like that 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.200 that smell like home that they're used to sleeping on. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.200 Don't forget your sleepsack. We were in a kind of 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.679 unique situation where Teddy had been in the snow before 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.000 we left, and you can hire us new in a 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.319 lot of places, but in Sorrento and Italy you couldn't, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.160 so that wasn't an option. Instead, we had to kind 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.960 of mimic his bed as much as we could, and 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.240 for us that was using the rocket z, which is 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.800 a device that vibrates the base of the bed, and 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.240 also having your white noise machine, which we use at home. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.840 So yet, keeping the things that change to a minimum 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.439 if you can, that really I think helps their transition. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.280 Everything else is changing, so the things that don't have 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.800 to change, try not to make them change. And in 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:41.040 that regard again, because you counteract, i mean preempt the 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.280 fact that you are a new parent and you are 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.880 exhausted and the mental load of packing for you. I 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.200 mean most people find packing stressful anyway, thinking about things hypothetically, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.000 but doing that for you and a tiny person is hard. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.600 So write a list well in advance that you can 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.120 tweak so that you'll like new things you remember you 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.960 add to it. But at least then when you're packing, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.240 I print it out and tick things off so that 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.040 I've kind of spread the load of thinking about what 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.880 I need to take and then making sure I've actually 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.880 packed it. It's like delegated already onto a piece of 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.840 paper because it's a lot. So write a packing list 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.240 well in advance. You can use mine as a base, 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.920 but obviously when it's quite specific to the age we're 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.480 at and whatever, and then you know, you can sort 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.560 of also highlight the things that you don't have yet, 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.240 so the admin of going to the chemist and you know, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.800 needing to borrow things, all that kind of stuff. Again, 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:33.880 thank you so much to Victoria Devine, who I borrowed 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.360 so much off because she had just done this exact troup, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.360 which was so fortunate for me. That made the packing 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.200 list a lot easier. But then at least you also 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.840 know what you've already got and what you don't. That 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.800 was a really good tip for me. And another thing 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.000 for how little they are the kids, stuff takes up 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.480 so much space, so it depends on you know whether 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.439 you want to pay access package or not. But we 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.520 ended up just having one whole suitcase basically was for 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.679 Teddy and I'll go into this more when I talk 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.320 about what stuff we actually packed for him. But then 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.520 Nick and I shared a suitcase, so you have to 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.920 really get economical with your own packing. And like we 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.679 had a wedding to go to it with multiple events 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.920 and Nick has suits, so that. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:10.920 Was really hard. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.199 But you do kind of get really discerning with your 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:15.960 own packing so that you can make sure that you 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.240 have everything for your little one number five practice in 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:24.000 the lead up. This is not like this again, this 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.080 is like up to you. You obviously don't have to 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.160 depending on what your load is before you go away. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.200 But we knowing that Teddy would be out of a 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.040 snow for the very first time, we practiced in the 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.240 lead up with the travelcot, so we spent I think 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.080 it was the week before we left, just putting him 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.200 in the non snow travel basinet that the exact one 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.960 that we were going to use with the rocket zed 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.240 and the white noise machine for one nap a day 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.800 and then two naps a day and then overnight. And 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.960 that just meant that it wasn't the first time he 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.240 ever went into this new environment, wasn't when we were 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.520 overseas whenever thing else was new at the same time. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:02.960 And it's hard to know. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.600 We didn't beat a test that obviously, it's hard to 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.640 know how much difference that made, but I think it 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.400 did at least ensure it wasn't a thousand new things 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.920 at once. Having said that, one thing we didn't do, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.560 there's an amazing app I actually it was Olivia Molly 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.320 Rodgers who first posted about this, and I used it 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.080 extensively when I was traveling alone. There's an app called 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.240 time Shifter which helps you with jet lag to kind 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.400 of phase yourself from one time zone to the other. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:29.840 I think when you're with a little one. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.040 And again I'm not an expert on this, but we 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:38.080 didn't do that time difference fading beforehand when it was 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.360 us traveling with Teddy because I think it's already so 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.200 much for them that you just stay on your existing time. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.080 So I'll cover this in the next point. But you know, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.200 we didn't when we did practice with the new COT. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:50.840 We didn't do practice with the time difference, but we 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.880 did with the COT and the sheets and the rocket 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.040 z and everything else. Number six is we're up to 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.880 the flight now. And my tip here is actually, back 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.080 at the time of booking, try to book your flight. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.440 Times very carefully. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.320 And Nick and I didn't do this, and we actually 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.800 ended up having to pay an exorbitant amount of change 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.320 fees once we got closer. And I think this is 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.440 quite common because at the time of booking, you're not 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.080 actually thinking about the logistics of getting your baby on 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.640 the plane and to the other end. You're just thinking 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.400 about making sure you've ticked off the booking and that 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.080 means that you use the same habits that you've used 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.440 the entire time, your entire life that you've been traveling 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.480 without your baby. So we kind of looked at what 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.400 was the cheapest flight to get us to the other 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.520 end by the time we needed to arrive at That 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.560 happened to be the five am flight, and that seemed fine. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.760 And then we kind of sense checked it and we're like, yeah, cool, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.880 Like Teddy gets up really early five am, we'll be 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.840 fine totally forgetting that for a five am flight, to 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.560 be at the airport three hours early, you have to 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:53.120 check in at two am, which is totally disastrous for 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.240 you know, your baby's meant to be sleeping overnight, so 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:56.680 you have to wake them up to be at the 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.720 airport by two am. It's just so suboptimal, and we 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:02.360 just didn't even think about it. So one of the 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.080 really hard things about travel is trying to keep their 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.840 routine as close as you can. And our first mistake 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.360 was obviously totally buggering that up with the flight time. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.520 So have a look at the times of when you're leaving. Obviously, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.119 especially for a long haul, at some point everything is 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.680 going to fall apart, and that's just part of flying, 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.000 but at least the original departure time. Like, keep things 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.000 as easy as you can for as long as you can, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.000 So be careful about your flight times. And someone asked 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.040 a question about whether you would do a long layover 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.760 like for a while or for overnight, or whether you 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.440 just do it all in one go. I think that's 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.960 a really personal preference. It also depends on your little one. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:42.520 At this point. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.680 I would also say, if you've never done a short 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.320 domestic flight, I'd maybe do that first so you get 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.560 familiar with what it feels like. We did a Sydney 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.359 trip first, so that at least we could check if 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.880 he was one of those babies whose ears was really sensitive, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.240 if he hated flying, if he was okay. And so, 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.800 because Teddy was quite good on the plane, we thought 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.280 it's already hard enough that at some point along the 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.960 chain their routine goes out the window. The quicker you 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.760 can get to the other end and start the new 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.000 routine felt better for us. So we thought, let's just 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.920 rip the band aid, and it might be a really 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.679 hard twenty four hours, especially once the nap cycle starts 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.399 to get all messed up. But a longer layover for 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.760 us just delayed us getting to where we wanted to go. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.439 We wanted to get on Italy time as quick as 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.639 we could, so we didn't do a long layover and 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.919 just rip the band aid. But that's really personal. If 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:35.679 you feel like you need time to gather your thoughts 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.080 before I left, I thought I did want that once 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:39.639 I got there, I thought, I'm really glad I did 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.080 it all in one go. And then the other thing 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:46.159 at the point of booking is it's not guaranteed that 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.200 you'll get a bassinette just because you make a booking 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.840 with a baby, which I didn't know. And we ended 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.920 up booking through a travel agent because we have one 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.120 that my family uses all the time, and I sort 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.119 of was nervous about booking with the baby for the 0:18:58.160 --> 0:18:59.440 first time, and she was the one who told me, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.040 you actually have to book that. So if you're booking yourself, 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.560 you might not know. And there's a limited number on 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.120 each flight, so make sure you ask about that, because 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.040