WEBVTT - MasterChef Lovers Sarah Todd and Declan Cleary Have Very Exciting News 0:00:10.365 --> 0:00:14.405 You're listening to a mom and mea podcast. Mama Mea 0:00:14.445 --> 0:00:17.125 acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 0:00:17.165 --> 0:00:18.485 podcast is recorded on. 0:00:18.725 --> 0:00:24.405 I couldn't be more excited, like about what are you 0:00:24.485 --> 0:00:29.525 excited about having a baby, but like the buns in 0:00:29.565 --> 0:00:34.245 the ovens and it's kind of it's all I've ever 0:00:34.325 --> 0:00:35.165 wanted in life. 0:00:40.125 --> 0:00:44.085 Hello, and welcome to No Filter. I'm Kate lane Brook 0:00:44.125 --> 0:00:49.405 and today, oh this is so great. We're talking about 0:00:49.445 --> 0:00:54.445 a love story that no one saw coming. Sarah Todd 0:00:54.485 --> 0:00:57.485 and Declan Cleary met in one of the most high 0:00:57.485 --> 0:01:01.965 pressure kitchens in Australia, Master Chief Back to Win, and 0:01:02.005 --> 0:01:07.485 they were supposed to be competitors, not soul mates. But 0:01:07.805 --> 0:01:11.845 somewhere between the pressure tests, the plating and the late 0:01:11.925 --> 0:01:14.365 night cookoffs, something. 0:01:14.005 --> 0:01:15.325 Else began to simmer. 0:01:17.125 --> 0:01:21.565 Sarah is a chef, a restaurateur and TV personality who's 0:01:21.645 --> 0:01:25.045 made a global name for herself, and Declan is a 0:01:25.125 --> 0:01:28.525 tradee who became a fan favorite on the show for 0:01:28.605 --> 0:01:33.525 his talent and warmth. And together they've gone from competitors 0:01:33.805 --> 0:01:37.685 to partners, from a shared kitchen to a shared home, 0:01:38.445 --> 0:01:42.845 and now they have got some very very very big 0:01:43.005 --> 0:01:46.645 news to share. This is a story of how a 0:01:46.725 --> 0:01:52.685 reality competition turned into reality a real life love story, 0:01:53.165 --> 0:01:56.725 and how Sarah and Declan are about to embark on 0:01:56.765 --> 0:02:04.245 their most exciting chapter yet. Sarah Todd Declan Cleary, Welcome 0:02:04.365 --> 0:02:05.125 to No Filter. 0:02:05.845 --> 0:02:06.325 Thank you. 0:02:06.405 --> 0:02:11.485 I've been so looking forward to meeting you too, although 0:02:12.205 --> 0:02:14.605 you two is not really right, but. 0:02:14.605 --> 0:02:18.685 We'll get to that. How delightful to have you two here. 0:02:19.285 --> 0:02:20.685 It's special to be here. 0:02:20.845 --> 0:02:22.725 It's good to be back in Melbourne because I feel 0:02:22.725 --> 0:02:25.845 like we've been on the run for months. 0:02:26.165 --> 0:02:29.525 You know, we've had a really busy schedule and then 0:02:29.845 --> 0:02:32.725 you know, we've wanted to enjoy these past few months 0:02:32.885 --> 0:02:35.845 to ourselves and with our family, and just so happened 0:02:35.845 --> 0:02:37.725 that we were on the road the whole time. 0:02:39.285 --> 0:02:40.445 Just yeah until. 0:02:40.165 --> 0:02:42.085 Now, Yes, until yesterday. 0:02:42.485 --> 0:02:45.045 And I said to you, you too, love a pressure test. 0:02:46.725 --> 0:02:53.925 You have really jumped headfirst into really everything good that 0:02:54.045 --> 0:03:02.005 life can offer, which is food, obviously love unexpected. 0:03:02.285 --> 0:03:04.205 Who was it more unexpected for? 0:03:04.645 --> 0:03:06.205 I think I can speak for the both of us 0:03:06.245 --> 0:03:08.685 in saying I think we both went in with no 0:03:08.845 --> 0:03:10.445 intention and find love. 0:03:12.525 --> 0:03:15.045 Master Chef is not a dating show. 0:03:19.245 --> 0:03:19.485 Fact. 0:03:19.605 --> 0:03:22.805 I don't know if there have been any other Master 0:03:22.885 --> 0:03:23.645 Chef couples. 0:03:23.965 --> 0:03:26.045 I think, yeah, I think that. 0:03:26.005 --> 0:03:31.885 We know of you know, because it's one thing. You know, 0:03:32.005 --> 0:03:34.845 It's kind of like actors as well, that when you 0:03:35.085 --> 0:03:40.645 in a situation like that, when you you're experiencing something 0:03:40.645 --> 0:03:44.485 that has an intensity and a club like nature, that 0:03:44.565 --> 0:03:49.285 you do tend to make connections, quite strong and deep connections, 0:03:49.565 --> 0:03:51.165 but they don't always last. 0:03:51.845 --> 0:03:54.445 We're both very passionate about what we do, and I 0:03:54.445 --> 0:03:57.445 think we went into Master Chef wanting to win the show, 0:03:57.725 --> 0:04:01.725 and I think that we both threw everything at it, 0:04:02.165 --> 0:04:05.125 and in the early days we kind of became each 0:04:05.125 --> 0:04:09.685 other's sort of little safe place that was ay from 0:04:09.725 --> 0:04:10.765 all of that intensity. 0:04:10.885 --> 0:04:13.205 So how long? How long was the filming? 0:04:13.845 --> 0:04:14.565 Six months? 0:04:14.965 --> 0:04:15.205 Yeah? 0:04:15.725 --> 0:04:20.445 So we started wow December last year, and you know, 0:04:20.565 --> 0:04:22.645 you know what it's like. It's can be ten to 0:04:22.685 --> 0:04:26.405 twelve hour days. You're filming for only a few of 0:04:26.405 --> 0:04:29.405 those hours. The rest of it is just outside of 0:04:29.565 --> 0:04:33.005 you know, the kitchen and hanging out and finding ways 0:04:33.085 --> 0:04:35.765 to kind of keep our sanity. 0:04:35.405 --> 0:04:40.285 I of yees yes, and find someone because in those 0:04:40.325 --> 0:04:45.085 situations you need some sort of pressure release, You need 0:04:45.125 --> 0:04:47.725 to feel that you have an ally of some kind, 0:04:47.885 --> 0:04:52.045 and so you two struck up a friendship pretty early. 0:04:52.165 --> 0:04:53.005 How early on. 0:04:53.645 --> 0:04:56.685 I think straight away, I think for Sarah's third time 0:04:56.725 --> 0:05:00.245 coming back, and then my second I definitely pulled, you know, 0:05:00.405 --> 0:05:02.965 two friends out of the first series that I was on. 0:05:03.525 --> 0:05:06.885 I was lucky enough to come out as best friends 0:05:06.885 --> 0:05:07.965 with Rhianna and Anderson. 0:05:08.205 --> 0:05:11.685 Yeah, from my series, and that was which was. 0:05:11.645 --> 0:05:13.925 Like too, you were choose yeah seasons. 0:05:14.005 --> 0:05:17.445 Yeah, so filming in twenty twenty two into twenty twenty three, right, 0:05:17.965 --> 0:05:21.565 and then you know, just like love just big long 0:05:21.685 --> 0:05:24.165 days hanging out with her and the vo having a 0:05:24.165 --> 0:05:25.885 cup of tea and where do you live? 0:05:26.005 --> 0:05:27.485 Like what's the setup for that? 0:05:27.765 --> 0:05:32.085 Well, just coincidentally, Rhiannon became a friend of mine before 0:05:32.125 --> 0:05:36.205 the show, So going into Master Chef, I instant instantly 0:05:36.285 --> 0:05:39.205 was like, find my person, and it was Rhiannon. And 0:05:39.245 --> 0:05:42.885 because they had such a strong friendship, it's kind of 0:05:43.005 --> 0:05:45.125 drew us together. It was kind of like, you know, 0:05:45.205 --> 0:05:49.165 that taking down that barrier because I'm a pretty inteler person, 0:05:49.205 --> 0:05:50.605 even though I'm really. 0:05:50.525 --> 0:05:55.365 Very contained, very contained, in fact, quite intriguing to watch 0:05:56.205 --> 0:06:02.245 very beautiful, very graceful declan you are none of those things, 0:06:00.245 --> 0:06:08.685 because he's completely but you are internal. Declan, you are external, definitely, 0:06:08.765 --> 0:06:12.765 and it's one of the many differences between you, aside 0:06:12.765 --> 0:06:16.685 from background. What was your background, Sarah, Like, how did 0:06:16.725 --> 0:06:17.325 you grow up? 0:06:18.125 --> 0:06:19.085 I'm a country girl. 0:06:19.125 --> 0:06:23.565 I'm from a small town two thousand people called Scrubby 0:06:23.685 --> 0:06:27.965 and grew up just outdoors and just like you know, 0:06:28.965 --> 0:06:33.005 a really beautiful childhood, two brothers and with a really 0:06:33.205 --> 0:06:34.085 solid family. 0:06:34.205 --> 0:06:35.805 I think that I'm really blessed. 0:06:35.845 --> 0:06:39.125 I have just not only my immediate family unit, but 0:06:39.525 --> 0:06:43.885 a very big family which Declan's just had the pleasure 0:06:43.925 --> 0:06:47.085 of meeting almost all of them. And what's what was 0:06:47.125 --> 0:06:51.885 the cultural makeup of your family Australian? Yeah, so I think, 0:06:52.845 --> 0:06:57.965 you know, for me growing up very ausy, very you know, 0:06:58.565 --> 0:07:00.165 Australian upbringing. 0:06:59.765 --> 0:07:02.565 But those whole Indian slash French thing. 0:07:03.165 --> 0:07:06.405 So I my son's half Indian, and so I fell 0:07:06.405 --> 0:07:08.405 in love with the culture. And I think that, you know, 0:07:08.445 --> 0:07:11.085 we're really blessed in Australia to be very open minded. 0:07:11.165 --> 0:07:14.245 And as soon as I was, you know, made aware 0:07:14.285 --> 0:07:17.445 of his culture. And I also felt like, being a mother, 0:07:17.645 --> 0:07:21.685 it was my responsibility to understand that culture as well, 0:07:21.725 --> 0:07:26.045 and I just you know, totally immersed myself into Indian 0:07:26.085 --> 0:07:27.485 culture and you. 0:07:27.485 --> 0:07:29.805 Ended up running a restaurant in Goer. 0:07:30.045 --> 0:07:33.685 Yes, is that was North Goer Yeah, yeah, maybe I've 0:07:33.685 --> 0:07:36.165 been to South go oh Okay beautiful quite quite a 0:07:36.245 --> 0:07:36.925 few times. 0:07:37.005 --> 0:07:40.485 Yeah, amazing. Yeah, it's a beautiful place. I'm sure you 0:07:40.485 --> 0:07:43.365 would have realized. Injury is a place where they just 0:07:43.445 --> 0:07:45.885 welcome you with open arms. And we just did a 0:07:45.925 --> 0:07:48.125 trip recently to go over to India and it was 0:07:48.165 --> 0:07:50.605 Declan's first time, and it's a place for me that 0:07:51.005 --> 0:07:54.805 you know, I've spending five months minimum a year in 0:07:54.805 --> 0:07:56.925 India for the last eleven years. 0:07:56.925 --> 0:07:59.485 And you take Phoenix back there, you're yeah, he. 0:07:59.525 --> 0:08:01.765 Comes back and forth with me, and you know, I 0:08:01.805 --> 0:08:05.845 think that they have just really welcomed me with open arms. 0:08:05.885 --> 0:08:09.325 And I just threw myself into it. And I love it. 0:08:09.485 --> 0:08:11.045 I love in Dear and I love the culture. 0:08:11.085 --> 0:08:13.605 I love the food, the people, and you know, I 0:08:13.605 --> 0:08:16.125 wanted Phoenix to feel proud too if he has to 0:08:16.365 --> 0:08:19.285 take a parato and his lunchbox to school, that he's 0:08:19.325 --> 0:08:21.725 not going to be picked on or embarrassed about it. 0:08:21.885 --> 0:08:24.045 You know, I think it's my responsibility to do that. 0:08:24.645 --> 0:08:27.885 So yeah, it was really nice to kind of. 0:08:28.165 --> 0:08:31.285 Be opened up to this whole new world and. 0:08:31.245 --> 0:08:34.365 Decline your background Australian. 0:08:34.645 --> 0:08:38.525 Yeah, growing up in fresh water run on Sydney's northern beaches. 0:08:38.645 --> 0:08:43.285 So yeah, just full full lossie and traveling lots as 0:08:43.325 --> 0:08:45.885 a kid through dad's work. So I had the luxury 0:08:45.925 --> 0:08:49.445 to you know, he was in television. 0:08:50.205 --> 0:08:51.645 Yeah he was. Yeah, So. 0:08:53.525 --> 0:08:57.085 Yeah, Mum and dad met in television and now. 0:09:02.045 --> 0:09:03.925 And then and you're a trade and then so. 0:09:03.925 --> 0:09:06.885 I'm a build a carpenter by trade and kind. 0:09:06.685 --> 0:09:11.245 Of again very handy. You don't want a soft handed 0:09:11.285 --> 0:09:14.245 paper push up. What you need is someone who can 0:09:14.405 --> 0:09:15.525 undo the pressure cooker. 0:09:15.685 --> 0:09:17.925 Yeah, exactly when he definitely does that. 0:09:18.205 --> 0:09:21.725 So so much like Sarah, like just a really close family, 0:09:22.365 --> 0:09:26.085 two sisters, so stuck in the middle of sometimes I 0:09:26.125 --> 0:09:28.965 say the rose between the thorns. I am with an 0:09:29.005 --> 0:09:34.485 older and young I bet the love it. But like 0:09:34.805 --> 0:09:38.205 they're you know, prior to Sarah coming into my life, 0:09:38.285 --> 0:09:40.405 there's still like some of the most prominent women in 0:09:40.445 --> 0:09:43.365 my life, my mum and my two sisters, so very 0:09:43.485 --> 0:09:46.925 very strong relationship with them, and I think, you know 0:09:47.045 --> 0:09:51.445 that that was really important in my upbringing and my 0:09:51.645 --> 0:09:56.285 sort of like my ethos with life, you know, growing 0:09:56.325 --> 0:09:59.525 up in a household with no shortage of women. 0:10:00.605 --> 0:10:02.925 And you like to tilt and win mills, so you 0:10:03.125 --> 0:10:06.125 like to go this may seem impossible to some, but 0:10:06.205 --> 0:10:07.245 this is what I want to do. 0:10:07.805 --> 0:10:12.165 Yeah. In regards to work and cooking, yeah, definitely. 0:10:12.285 --> 0:10:16.525 I've always like liked pushing the boundaries with myself with 0:10:16.685 --> 0:10:20.045 things that I'm doing. And you know, I'm not the 0:10:20.165 --> 0:10:23.005 kind of person that likes to be indoors and not 0:10:23.045 --> 0:10:24.925 doing anything. I think, you know, as soon as I 0:10:24.965 --> 0:10:27.285 could get on the job site and be a trade 0:10:27.285 --> 0:10:30.205 working outside, I thrived on that and I think the 0:10:30.285 --> 0:10:33.605 creativity kind of came in par with cooking. 0:10:33.645 --> 0:10:34.605 It was very similar. 0:10:34.685 --> 0:10:38.405 I never thought I'd get Top three on Master Chef 0:10:38.445 --> 0:10:41.565 Australia and then go on to you know, finding the 0:10:41.645 --> 0:10:43.525 love of my life on the shows. 0:10:43.645 --> 0:10:46.685 And then when you were both invited back, yeah, for 0:10:46.725 --> 0:10:50.285 the for the back to win the series, what was 0:10:50.365 --> 0:10:54.685 Can you remember the moment when you first saw Sarah. 0:10:55.165 --> 0:10:58.325 I was just like, oh, this bloody bombshells on the show. 0:10:58.685 --> 0:11:00.805 It's going to be hard to keep my eyes off her, and. 0:11:02.605 --> 0:11:07.245 Really like it was like she's gorgeous, She's stunning, and 0:11:07.245 --> 0:11:11.205 and you know I was there with no intentions of 0:11:11.285 --> 0:11:12.765 anything other than to win the show. 0:11:13.325 --> 0:11:17.645 So and you were both emotionally unencumbered when you came 0:11:17.685 --> 0:11:21.605 to Yeah, yeah, definitely so, which which was really special. 0:11:21.645 --> 0:11:25.525 And I think, you know the foundations of our relationship 0:11:25.565 --> 0:11:28.045 were built on a friendship and we were spending a 0:11:28.045 --> 0:11:31.165 lot of time hanging out as friends with with no 0:11:31.285 --> 0:11:32.965 intention speaking for myself. 0:11:33.845 --> 0:11:34.965 But I didn't have. 0:11:36.405 --> 0:11:39.365 Well you know, I know, of course I can I 0:11:39.485 --> 0:11:44.765 ask this, was there no intention because you thought my 0:11:44.925 --> 0:11:47.965 priorities have to be on the people? 0:11:48.245 --> 0:11:52.525 Always was that no intention? Because you were like, I 0:11:52.565 --> 0:11:53.565 don't have a chance. 0:11:53.965 --> 0:11:57.285 No, I just in the scheme of life, and I 0:11:57.325 --> 0:11:58.525 think I've got a chance. 0:12:00.725 --> 0:12:04.885 Remember the first time, you know, really no seeing Declan 0:12:05.005 --> 0:12:07.085 and he came down and he sat down and was 0:12:07.125 --> 0:12:09.245 sitting in the green room and he just came down 0:12:09.405 --> 0:12:11.885 and it just hit me straight with questions and like 0:12:11.965 --> 0:12:13.965 started trying to you know, get to know me. And 0:12:14.005 --> 0:12:17.165 I was I really admired that. I think someone who 0:12:17.325 --> 0:12:21.645 you know, can just he's so himself and it's and 0:12:21.725 --> 0:12:24.285 I loved seeing that. I think there's you know, there's 0:12:24.325 --> 0:12:27.085 no barriers. He's not hiding who he is. He's really 0:12:27.085 --> 0:12:29.445 proud and he sat down and he just had a 0:12:29.445 --> 0:12:32.245 good old chat with me, and it was really amazing. 0:12:32.285 --> 0:12:34.685 I was like, oh, this is great, Like I really 0:12:34.885 --> 0:12:40.045 appreciated it. 0:12:37.845 --> 0:12:39.365 Should be or not, you know. 0:12:39.485 --> 0:12:42.485 And also, I think increasingly in the world people are 0:12:42.885 --> 0:12:46.605 scared to show themselves for a myriad of reasons. But 0:12:47.325 --> 0:12:52.885 you have always been totally yourself and that's a very 0:12:52.965 --> 0:12:54.285 lovable quality. 0:12:54.565 --> 0:12:57.725 It's really beautiful. But I was wondering. 0:12:57.325 --> 0:13:02.885 How onto the growing bond between you two the people 0:13:02.885 --> 0:13:06.845 who were making the show were, because I noticed in 0:13:06.885 --> 0:13:10.325 the Maggie Beer episode. In fact, I took a screenshot 0:13:10.525 --> 0:13:12.965 of the moment they did a cutaway to YouTube. Okay, 0:13:13.085 --> 0:13:16.245 do you see that? No, I just went, I'll show 0:13:16.285 --> 0:13:21.405 you it's and I'm like, hello, are you showing each 0:13:21.405 --> 0:13:22.165 other goosebump? 0:13:23.325 --> 0:13:25.605 We are? 0:13:28.005 --> 0:13:28.805 Yeah? 0:13:30.125 --> 0:13:31.365 Maybe is amazing. 0:13:31.565 --> 0:13:35.965 Yeah, and that's a very rare honor to cook, you know. 0:13:36.405 --> 0:13:37.605 Yeah, really sweet. 0:13:37.645 --> 0:13:40.165 But they did a quick cutaway to YouTube. And then 0:13:40.205 --> 0:13:42.445 increasingly I was sort of noticing that you two were 0:13:42.485 --> 0:13:43.165 often together. 0:13:43.365 --> 0:13:47.285 Yeah, definitely, I think that the friendship that started. We 0:13:47.325 --> 0:13:50.725 always felt comfortable around each other on set because there's 0:13:50.885 --> 0:13:53.005 you know, there's one hundred, one hundred and fifty people 0:13:53.085 --> 0:13:57.405 on set every day, only twenty four contestants, so you 0:13:57.485 --> 0:13:59.805 do really want to find you know, your group and 0:13:59.885 --> 0:14:03.405 whether it was us, you know, going out to exercise 0:14:03.525 --> 0:14:06.485 to kill time, because in television there's. 0:14:06.285 --> 0:14:07.605 A lot of hurry up and there's a lot of 0:14:07.645 --> 0:14:08.245 waiting around. 0:14:08.685 --> 0:14:12.165 So it's like, you know, we'd film an episode where 0:14:12.205 --> 0:14:14.205 you had a seventy five minute cook but it would 0:14:14.245 --> 0:14:16.965 be a fourteen hour yeah, yes, yes, yes, So just 0:14:17.005 --> 0:14:20.445 trying to keep saying in that in doing having healthy 0:14:20.485 --> 0:14:24.245 habits on set, you know, whether it's exercising, whether it's 0:14:24.525 --> 0:14:26.885 finding a TV show to binge out on, whether it's 0:14:26.925 --> 0:14:30.725 studying notes together or you know, kind of brainstorming ideas. 0:14:31.005 --> 0:14:34.205 I think that was important in trying to find the 0:14:34.245 --> 0:14:37.565 normality of a situation that really isn't normal to anyone. 0:14:38.205 --> 0:14:42.165 And it's this may seem, you know, like a sudden thing, 0:14:42.725 --> 0:14:46.645 but I think when you've been in circumstances like that, Yeah, 0:14:46.685 --> 0:14:50.405 any reality TV has this. Really it is like the 0:14:50.405 --> 0:14:52.805 pressure cocker because things happen more quickly. 0:14:53.365 --> 0:14:55.965 You know, the meat gets tender, I see very quickly. 0:14:56.085 --> 0:14:57.685 You're seeing all sides of a person. 0:14:58.005 --> 0:15:01.445 Ultimately, it's a competition exactly you're seeing people at breaking 0:15:01.485 --> 0:15:06.045 point as a highs and you know you're also surrounded 0:15:06.045 --> 0:15:08.525 by people who want to win, so you do need 0:15:08.565 --> 0:15:12.125 to find someone who you feel like is someone you 0:15:12.165 --> 0:15:14.645 can trust in a way, and someone who's sort of 0:15:15.125 --> 0:15:15.765 like minded. 0:15:15.925 --> 0:15:17.805 And I think we got to the point. 0:15:17.565 --> 0:15:21.005 Where we wouldn't have minded if either one of us won, 0:15:21.445 --> 0:15:24.125 you know, and I think it's nice to actually build 0:15:24.125 --> 0:15:26.845 a friendship beyond that competitive nature. 0:15:27.005 --> 0:15:28.325 So I think we got to that point. 0:15:28.405 --> 0:15:30.205 When have you watched the show back together? 0:15:30.485 --> 0:15:33.645 We watched glimpses, like we haven't watched every single episode 0:15:33.685 --> 0:15:36.685 just because we it's pre filmed, and then we were 0:15:36.685 --> 0:15:38.005 already jumped into. 0:15:37.925 --> 0:15:39.005 Work and other comments. 0:15:39.085 --> 0:15:40.885 But we see moments. 0:15:40.965 --> 0:15:44.325 Yeah, well it was my mum. She's like, sorry, you've 0:15:44.325 --> 0:15:46.045 gonna go and put this on you and. 0:15:46.005 --> 0:15:49.005 Declan, you've had this moment and you've got to see it. 0:15:48.325 --> 0:15:52.965 And they really when they because we did our announcement 0:15:53.045 --> 0:15:56.245 with Stellar Magazine, which which was so nice to say 0:15:56.285 --> 0:16:01.525 the narrative from us and get those beautiful shots together 0:16:01.565 --> 0:16:05.165 which will cherish for a lifetime, but it was it 0:16:05.245 --> 0:16:09.205 wasn't really until then that Master Chef jumped on board 0:16:09.365 --> 0:16:11.765 and they're like you know, we'll actually work this into 0:16:11.805 --> 0:16:14.965 the narrative because we were so respectful to each other 0:16:15.085 --> 0:16:17.685 on the show. It's like, yeah, you saw us standing 0:16:17.725 --> 0:16:20.445 next to each other, but you know, I'd be standing 0:16:20.485 --> 0:16:24.005 next to Rhiannon and there was no chemistry there. It's 0:16:24.085 --> 0:16:27.165 like we were always respectful to that on the show. 0:16:27.205 --> 0:16:28.165 But they. 0:16:29.805 --> 0:16:32.805 Worked. They would have gone back. 0:16:32.845 --> 0:16:36.445 Respectively, because it was also some of them even before. 0:16:36.445 --> 0:16:38.685 Before we were we were friends. 0:16:38.725 --> 0:16:41.685 Obviously at a little push or something. 0:16:42.445 --> 0:16:44.445 If I touched him that would make it into. 0:16:46.165 --> 0:16:49.245 Well because I sent a message to Pose, I was 0:16:49.285 --> 0:16:52.525 speaking to you, and so I sent poem message and 0:16:52.565 --> 0:16:55.325 I said, did you know about the romance? 0:16:55.605 --> 0:16:59.685 And she sent me I'll tell you what you and 0:16:59.845 --> 0:17:00.845 it was you know post. 0:17:00.925 --> 0:17:05.325 So she's such a beautiful She's amazing, non gossipy sort 0:17:05.325 --> 0:17:09.965 of person, but very astuu and you know, sees. 0:17:09.685 --> 0:17:10.125 What goes on. 0:17:10.485 --> 0:17:17.445 She said, Yeah, she said, Okay, I'm such a clueless twitt. 0:17:17.685 --> 0:17:19.045 I missed it in tirely. 0:17:19.725 --> 0:17:20.765 I think everybody did. 0:17:20.885 --> 0:17:23.765 Yeah, she said, I only found out the same time 0:17:23.805 --> 0:17:26.565 as everyone else did. Although I have a friend who's 0:17:26.565 --> 0:17:29.765 a contestant who told me after. It was all kind 0:17:29.765 --> 0:17:33.125 of general knowledge amongst the other contestants and they didn't 0:17:33.205 --> 0:17:33.565 hide it. 0:17:33.845 --> 0:17:38.045 Yeah, like you know, we we didn't hide hanging out. 0:17:38.725 --> 0:17:40.845 We hung out all the time when I was at 0:17:40.845 --> 0:17:43.445 the complex, like where we stayed. You'd all get a 0:17:43.485 --> 0:17:45.685 bus in together and you'd get a bus home where 0:17:45.765 --> 0:17:48.805 Sarah had you know, some of the Melbourne people stayed 0:17:48.885 --> 0:17:50.685 at home and made their own way to say, right, 0:17:50.925 --> 0:17:53.005 so you know, i'd leave set with Sarah or i'd 0:17:53.045 --> 0:17:55.685 rop up with Sarah, and then I had those core 0:17:55.765 --> 0:17:59.045 people within the group that you know, we're still staying 0:17:59.045 --> 0:17:59.325 at the. 0:17:59.285 --> 0:18:02.245 Complex, which was still only quite far along. 0:18:02.685 --> 0:18:06.325 It was yeah, yeah, we had been spending a lot 0:18:06.405 --> 0:18:09.885 of time previous to that, so I think, yeah. 0:18:10.045 --> 0:18:10.445 It's. 0:18:11.845 --> 0:18:15.925 It's funny, but were all, this is a producer's dream. 0:18:16.725 --> 0:18:19.285 It was fantastic that would have been wrapped. 0:18:20.365 --> 0:18:23.525 So when Declan went out, which I think was week 0:18:23.885 --> 0:18:34.965 eleventh thirty two series, because it was an enormous scope 0:18:35.045 --> 0:18:39.725 of a series at that point, how were you, Well. 0:18:39.525 --> 0:18:40.605 It was really funny. 0:18:40.685 --> 0:18:43.965 It was the first day where we sort of like 0:18:44.725 --> 0:18:47.685 sat next to next to each other and like had 0:18:47.765 --> 0:18:48.885 physical contact. 0:18:49.405 --> 0:18:51.725 Right, was that that episode. 0:18:52.045 --> 0:18:54.005 After the eviction or during it? 0:18:54.005 --> 0:18:58.485 It was before eviction and we you know, obviously it 0:18:58.565 --> 0:19:01.725 already started to develop at that point and we were close, 0:19:01.845 --> 0:19:04.205 but we're also really mindful that we're in a work 0:19:04.285 --> 0:19:06.365 situation and respectful. 0:19:05.845 --> 0:19:06.925 Of other people. 0:19:06.965 --> 0:19:09.685 And that was the first day, and so it was 0:19:09.965 --> 0:19:12.845 really quite devastating because it was like, oh gosh, like 0:19:12.885 --> 0:19:14.965 we just felt comfortable to be ourselves. 0:19:15.085 --> 0:19:17.485 And and what when you sat was the first moment 0:19:17.485 --> 0:19:20.445 that you'd had a physical like that free song public 0:19:21.645 --> 0:19:24.005 So what was it a handhold. 0:19:23.485 --> 0:19:26.245 Or maybe just like. 0:19:27.325 --> 0:19:30.445 Remember like on the couch and then it's just like 0:19:30.565 --> 0:19:32.445 laying on it with my arm around. 0:19:32.405 --> 0:19:34.205 Because I was like, you know, I. 0:19:36.445 --> 0:19:37.525 Food and love. 0:19:39.045 --> 0:19:41.405 It, and I think, you know, the whole respect thing, 0:19:41.485 --> 0:19:44.645 like I didn't want to cross any boundaries and you know, 0:19:44.725 --> 0:19:48.565 make Sarah feel uncomfortable on set and vice versa. So 0:19:49.005 --> 0:19:51.085 you know, it was we'd spend a lot of time 0:19:51.085 --> 0:19:52.445 with each other, but I'm not going to go it's 0:19:52.485 --> 0:19:55.445 not going to on set or something like that, like 0:19:55.485 --> 0:19:58.365 because it's it's just not professional. And then I think, 0:19:58.405 --> 0:20:01.365 you know, we're it was nice to finally feel that 0:20:01.445 --> 0:20:04.325 comfortable where we can just throw our arm around each other. 0:20:04.405 --> 0:20:08.365 You know, we're we're like spending staying living with each 0:20:08.405 --> 0:20:08.965 other at. 0:20:08.805 --> 0:20:09.925 That point pretty much. 0:20:09.965 --> 0:20:13.165 So it's like we'd still go into the professional situation 0:20:13.405 --> 0:20:16.805 and you know, and be professional. 0:20:17.125 --> 0:20:22.805 And also I think things like Declan leaving, then you 0:20:23.045 --> 0:20:25.685 have to be much more clear. You can't take for 0:20:25.805 --> 0:20:27.805 granted the fact that you're going to be seeing each other, 0:20:28.405 --> 0:20:30.805 you know, maybe for teen more weeks or whatever. 0:20:31.765 --> 0:20:35.005 How did you feel them? Like, what was that Apex? 0:20:35.525 --> 0:20:37.005 I was with her right? 0:20:37.845 --> 0:20:41.445 No longer because you were about to go, Well, you 0:20:41.525 --> 0:20:43.885 did say I was moved in. 0:20:44.365 --> 0:20:46.005 Yeah, he was staying with me at that point. 0:20:46.045 --> 0:20:53.805 So basically my family, my family, So my family. 0:20:53.485 --> 0:20:55.645 Were taking turns to help with Phoenix. 0:20:55.725 --> 0:20:57.965 So right, I was at home, you know, I had 0:20:58.005 --> 0:21:00.565 to we would film from I'd have to leave home 0:21:00.605 --> 0:21:02.965 at seven am, and I'd get home at sort of 0:21:03.365 --> 0:21:05.285 I don't know. Some nights could be ninety eight or 0:21:05.325 --> 0:21:07.325 seven or whatever, and he had to get dropped to 0:21:07.325 --> 0:21:08.205 school and picked up. 0:21:08.245 --> 0:21:10.005 So my mum would take turns. 0:21:10.045 --> 0:21:12.765 Then my dad came down, took turns, and then there 0:21:12.805 --> 0:21:14.645 was a period where my dad. 0:21:14.445 --> 0:21:15.165 Had just left. 0:21:15.245 --> 0:21:20.125 And this is when Declan like that transition eliminated, eliminated, 0:21:20.765 --> 0:21:22.965 so then he. 0:21:27.125 --> 0:21:30.165 I don't have to come now because they did like. 0:21:29.885 --> 0:21:32.565 Oh, he's a nice boy. 0:21:32.805 --> 0:21:35.725 Mum was there for six weeks and then she helped 0:21:35.725 --> 0:21:38.805