1 00:00:10,365 --> 00:00:14,405 Speaker 1: You're listening to a mom and mea podcast. Mama Mea 2 00:00:14,445 --> 00:00:17,125 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 3 00:00:17,165 --> 00:00:18,485 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:18,725 --> 00:00:24,405 Speaker 2: I couldn't be more excited, like about what are you 5 00:00:24,485 --> 00:00:29,525 Speaker 2: excited about having a baby, but like the buns in 6 00:00:29,565 --> 00:00:34,245 Speaker 2: the ovens and it's kind of it's all I've ever 7 00:00:34,325 --> 00:00:35,165 Speaker 2: wanted in life. 8 00:00:40,125 --> 00:00:44,085 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to No Filter. I'm Kate lane Brook 9 00:00:44,125 --> 00:00:49,405 Speaker 3: and today, oh this is so great. We're talking about 10 00:00:49,445 --> 00:00:54,445 Speaker 3: a love story that no one saw coming. Sarah Todd 11 00:00:54,485 --> 00:00:57,485 Speaker 3: and Declan Cleary met in one of the most high 12 00:00:57,485 --> 00:01:01,965 Speaker 3: pressure kitchens in Australia, Master Chief Back to Win, and 13 00:01:02,005 --> 00:01:07,485 Speaker 3: they were supposed to be competitors, not soul mates. But 14 00:01:07,805 --> 00:01:11,845 Speaker 3: somewhere between the pressure tests, the plating and the late 15 00:01:11,925 --> 00:01:14,365 Speaker 3: night cookoffs, something. 16 00:01:14,005 --> 00:01:15,325 Speaker 1: Else began to simmer. 17 00:01:17,125 --> 00:01:21,565 Speaker 3: Sarah is a chef, a restaurateur and TV personality who's 18 00:01:21,645 --> 00:01:25,045 Speaker 3: made a global name for herself, and Declan is a 19 00:01:25,125 --> 00:01:28,525 Speaker 3: tradee who became a fan favorite on the show for 20 00:01:28,605 --> 00:01:33,525 Speaker 3: his talent and warmth. And together they've gone from competitors 21 00:01:33,805 --> 00:01:37,685 Speaker 3: to partners, from a shared kitchen to a shared home, 22 00:01:38,445 --> 00:01:42,845 Speaker 3: and now they have got some very very very big 23 00:01:43,005 --> 00:01:46,645 Speaker 3: news to share. This is a story of how a 24 00:01:46,725 --> 00:01:52,685 Speaker 3: reality competition turned into reality a real life love story, 25 00:01:53,165 --> 00:01:56,725 Speaker 3: and how Sarah and Declan are about to embark on 26 00:01:56,765 --> 00:02:04,245 Speaker 3: their most exciting chapter yet. Sarah Todd Declan Cleary, Welcome 27 00:02:04,365 --> 00:02:05,125 Speaker 3: to No Filter. 28 00:02:05,845 --> 00:02:06,325 Speaker 4: Thank you. 29 00:02:06,405 --> 00:02:11,485 Speaker 3: I've been so looking forward to meeting you too, although 30 00:02:12,205 --> 00:02:14,605 Speaker 3: you two is not really right, but. 31 00:02:14,605 --> 00:02:18,685 Speaker 1: We'll get to that. How delightful to have you two here. 32 00:02:19,285 --> 00:02:20,685 Speaker 5: It's special to be here. 33 00:02:20,845 --> 00:02:22,725 Speaker 2: It's good to be back in Melbourne because I feel 34 00:02:22,725 --> 00:02:25,845 Speaker 2: like we've been on the run for months. 35 00:02:26,165 --> 00:02:29,525 Speaker 6: You know, we've had a really busy schedule and then 36 00:02:29,845 --> 00:02:32,725 Speaker 6: you know, we've wanted to enjoy these past few months 37 00:02:32,885 --> 00:02:35,845 Speaker 6: to ourselves and with our family, and just so happened 38 00:02:35,845 --> 00:02:37,725 Speaker 6: that we were on the road the whole time. 39 00:02:39,285 --> 00:02:40,445 Speaker 1: Just yeah until. 40 00:02:40,165 --> 00:02:42,085 Speaker 5: Now, Yes, until yesterday. 41 00:02:42,485 --> 00:02:45,045 Speaker 3: And I said to you, you too, love a pressure test. 42 00:02:46,725 --> 00:02:53,925 Speaker 3: You have really jumped headfirst into really everything good that 43 00:02:54,045 --> 00:03:02,005 Speaker 3: life can offer, which is food, obviously love unexpected. 44 00:03:02,285 --> 00:03:04,205 Speaker 1: Who was it more unexpected for? 45 00:03:04,645 --> 00:03:06,205 Speaker 2: I think I can speak for the both of us 46 00:03:06,245 --> 00:03:08,685 Speaker 2: in saying I think we both went in with no 47 00:03:08,845 --> 00:03:10,445 Speaker 2: intention and find love. 48 00:03:12,525 --> 00:03:15,045 Speaker 1: Master Chef is not a dating show. 49 00:03:19,245 --> 00:03:19,485 Speaker 2: Fact. 50 00:03:19,605 --> 00:03:22,805 Speaker 1: I don't know if there have been any other Master 51 00:03:22,885 --> 00:03:23,645 Speaker 1: Chef couples. 52 00:03:23,965 --> 00:03:26,045 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think that. 53 00:03:26,005 --> 00:03:31,885 Speaker 3: We know of you know, because it's one thing. You know, 54 00:03:32,005 --> 00:03:34,845 Speaker 3: It's kind of like actors as well, that when you 55 00:03:35,085 --> 00:03:40,645 Speaker 3: in a situation like that, when you you're experiencing something 56 00:03:40,645 --> 00:03:44,485 Speaker 3: that has an intensity and a club like nature, that 57 00:03:44,565 --> 00:03:49,285 Speaker 3: you do tend to make connections, quite strong and deep connections, 58 00:03:49,565 --> 00:03:51,165 Speaker 3: but they don't always last. 59 00:03:51,845 --> 00:03:54,445 Speaker 6: We're both very passionate about what we do, and I 60 00:03:54,445 --> 00:03:57,445 Speaker 6: think we went into Master Chef wanting to win the show, 61 00:03:57,725 --> 00:04:01,725 Speaker 6: and I think that we both threw everything at it, 62 00:04:02,165 --> 00:04:05,125 Speaker 6: and in the early days we kind of became each 63 00:04:05,125 --> 00:04:09,685 Speaker 6: other's sort of little safe place that was ay from 64 00:04:09,725 --> 00:04:10,765 Speaker 6: all of that intensity. 65 00:04:10,885 --> 00:04:13,205 Speaker 1: So how long? How long was the filming? 66 00:04:13,845 --> 00:04:14,565 Speaker 4: Six months? 67 00:04:14,965 --> 00:04:15,205 Speaker 5: Yeah? 68 00:04:15,725 --> 00:04:20,445 Speaker 6: So we started wow December last year, and you know, 69 00:04:20,565 --> 00:04:22,645 Speaker 6: you know what it's like. It's can be ten to 70 00:04:22,685 --> 00:04:26,405 Speaker 6: twelve hour days. You're filming for only a few of 71 00:04:26,405 --> 00:04:29,405 Speaker 6: those hours. The rest of it is just outside of 72 00:04:29,565 --> 00:04:33,005 Speaker 6: you know, the kitchen and hanging out and finding ways 73 00:04:33,085 --> 00:04:35,765 Speaker 6: to kind of keep our sanity. 74 00:04:35,405 --> 00:04:40,285 Speaker 3: I of yees yes, and find someone because in those 75 00:04:40,325 --> 00:04:45,085 Speaker 3: situations you need some sort of pressure release, You need 76 00:04:45,125 --> 00:04:47,725 Speaker 3: to feel that you have an ally of some kind, 77 00:04:47,885 --> 00:04:52,045 Speaker 3: and so you two struck up a friendship pretty early. 78 00:04:52,165 --> 00:04:53,005 Speaker 1: How early on. 79 00:04:53,645 --> 00:04:56,685 Speaker 2: I think straight away, I think for Sarah's third time 80 00:04:56,725 --> 00:05:00,245 Speaker 2: coming back, and then my second I definitely pulled, you know, 81 00:05:00,405 --> 00:05:02,965 Speaker 2: two friends out of the first series that I was on. 82 00:05:03,525 --> 00:05:06,885 Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to come out as best friends 83 00:05:06,885 --> 00:05:07,965 Speaker 2: with Rhianna and Anderson. 84 00:05:08,205 --> 00:05:11,685 Speaker 5: Yeah, from my series, and that was which was. 85 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:13,925 Speaker 1: Like too, you were choose yeah seasons. 86 00:05:14,005 --> 00:05:17,445 Speaker 2: Yeah, so filming in twenty twenty two into twenty twenty three, right, 87 00:05:17,965 --> 00:05:21,565 Speaker 2: and then you know, just like love just big long 88 00:05:21,685 --> 00:05:24,165 Speaker 2: days hanging out with her and the vo having a 89 00:05:24,165 --> 00:05:25,885 Speaker 2: cup of tea and where do you live? 90 00:05:26,005 --> 00:05:27,485 Speaker 1: Like what's the setup for that? 91 00:05:27,765 --> 00:05:32,085 Speaker 6: Well, just coincidentally, Rhiannon became a friend of mine before 92 00:05:32,125 --> 00:05:36,205 Speaker 6: the show, So going into Master Chef, I instant instantly 93 00:05:36,285 --> 00:05:39,205 Speaker 6: was like, find my person, and it was Rhiannon. And 94 00:05:39,245 --> 00:05:42,885 Speaker 6: because they had such a strong friendship, it's kind of 95 00:05:43,005 --> 00:05:45,125 Speaker 6: drew us together. It was kind of like, you know, 96 00:05:45,205 --> 00:05:49,165 Speaker 6: that taking down that barrier because I'm a pretty inteler person, 97 00:05:49,205 --> 00:05:50,605 Speaker 6: even though I'm really. 98 00:05:50,525 --> 00:05:55,365 Speaker 3: Very contained, very contained, in fact, quite intriguing to watch 99 00:05:56,205 --> 00:06:02,245 Speaker 3: very beautiful, very graceful declan you are none of those things, 100 00:06:00,245 --> 00:06:08,685 Speaker 3: because he's completely but you are internal. Declan, you are external, definitely, 101 00:06:08,765 --> 00:06:12,765 Speaker 3: and it's one of the many differences between you, aside 102 00:06:12,765 --> 00:06:16,685 Speaker 3: from background. What was your background, Sarah, Like, how did 103 00:06:16,725 --> 00:06:17,325 Speaker 3: you grow up? 104 00:06:18,125 --> 00:06:19,085 Speaker 4: I'm a country girl. 105 00:06:19,125 --> 00:06:23,565 Speaker 6: I'm from a small town two thousand people called Scrubby 106 00:06:23,685 --> 00:06:27,965 Speaker 6: and grew up just outdoors and just like you know, 107 00:06:28,965 --> 00:06:33,005 Speaker 6: a really beautiful childhood, two brothers and with a really 108 00:06:33,205 --> 00:06:34,085 Speaker 6: solid family. 109 00:06:34,205 --> 00:06:35,805 Speaker 4: I think that I'm really blessed. 110 00:06:35,845 --> 00:06:39,125 Speaker 6: I have just not only my immediate family unit, but 111 00:06:39,525 --> 00:06:43,885 Speaker 6: a very big family which Declan's just had the pleasure 112 00:06:43,925 --> 00:06:47,085 Speaker 6: of meeting almost all of them. And what's what was 113 00:06:47,125 --> 00:06:51,885 Speaker 6: the cultural makeup of your family Australian? Yeah, so I think, 114 00:06:52,845 --> 00:06:57,965 Speaker 6: you know, for me growing up very ausy, very you know, 115 00:06:58,565 --> 00:07:00,165 Speaker 6: Australian upbringing. 116 00:06:59,765 --> 00:07:02,565 Speaker 1: But those whole Indian slash French thing. 117 00:07:03,165 --> 00:07:06,405 Speaker 6: So I my son's half Indian, and so I fell 118 00:07:06,405 --> 00:07:08,405 Speaker 6: in love with the culture. And I think that, you know, 119 00:07:08,445 --> 00:07:11,085 Speaker 6: we're really blessed in Australia to be very open minded. 120 00:07:11,165 --> 00:07:14,245 Speaker 6: And as soon as I was, you know, made aware 121 00:07:14,285 --> 00:07:17,445 Speaker 6: of his culture. And I also felt like, being a mother, 122 00:07:17,645 --> 00:07:21,685 Speaker 6: it was my responsibility to understand that culture as well, 123 00:07:21,725 --> 00:07:26,045 Speaker 6: and I just you know, totally immersed myself into Indian 124 00:07:26,085 --> 00:07:27,485 Speaker 6: culture and you. 125 00:07:27,485 --> 00:07:29,805 Speaker 1: Ended up running a restaurant in Goer. 126 00:07:30,045 --> 00:07:33,685 Speaker 3: Yes, is that was North Goer Yeah, yeah, maybe I've 127 00:07:33,685 --> 00:07:36,165 Speaker 3: been to South go oh Okay beautiful quite quite a 128 00:07:36,245 --> 00:07:36,925 Speaker 3: few times. 129 00:07:37,005 --> 00:07:40,485 Speaker 6: Yeah, amazing. Yeah, it's a beautiful place. I'm sure you 130 00:07:40,485 --> 00:07:43,365 Speaker 6: would have realized. Injury is a place where they just 131 00:07:43,445 --> 00:07:45,885 Speaker 6: welcome you with open arms. And we just did a 132 00:07:45,925 --> 00:07:48,125 Speaker 6: trip recently to go over to India and it was 133 00:07:48,165 --> 00:07:50,605 Speaker 6: Declan's first time, and it's a place for me that 134 00:07:51,005 --> 00:07:54,805 Speaker 6: you know, I've spending five months minimum a year in 135 00:07:54,805 --> 00:07:56,925 Speaker 6: India for the last eleven years. 136 00:07:56,925 --> 00:07:59,485 Speaker 1: And you take Phoenix back there, you're yeah, he. 137 00:07:59,525 --> 00:08:01,765 Speaker 6: Comes back and forth with me, and you know, I 138 00:08:01,805 --> 00:08:05,845 Speaker 6: think that they have just really welcomed me with open arms. 139 00:08:05,885 --> 00:08:09,325 Speaker 4: And I just threw myself into it. And I love it. 140 00:08:09,485 --> 00:08:11,045 Speaker 4: I love in Dear and I love the culture. 141 00:08:11,085 --> 00:08:13,605 Speaker 6: I love the food, the people, and you know, I 142 00:08:13,605 --> 00:08:16,125 Speaker 6: wanted Phoenix to feel proud too if he has to 143 00:08:16,365 --> 00:08:19,285 Speaker 6: take a parato and his lunchbox to school, that he's 144 00:08:19,325 --> 00:08:21,725 Speaker 6: not going to be picked on or embarrassed about it. 145 00:08:21,885 --> 00:08:24,045 Speaker 6: You know, I think it's my responsibility to do that. 146 00:08:24,645 --> 00:08:27,885 Speaker 6: So yeah, it was really nice to kind of. 147 00:08:28,165 --> 00:08:31,285 Speaker 4: Be opened up to this whole new world and. 148 00:08:31,245 --> 00:08:34,365 Speaker 1: Decline your background Australian. 149 00:08:34,645 --> 00:08:38,525 Speaker 2: Yeah, growing up in fresh water run on Sydney's northern beaches. 150 00:08:38,645 --> 00:08:43,285 Speaker 2: So yeah, just full full lossie and traveling lots as 151 00:08:43,325 --> 00:08:45,885 Speaker 2: a kid through dad's work. So I had the luxury 152 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:49,445 Speaker 2: to you know, he was in television. 153 00:08:50,205 --> 00:08:51,645 Speaker 5: Yeah he was. Yeah, So. 154 00:08:53,525 --> 00:08:57,085 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mum and dad met in television and now. 155 00:09:02,045 --> 00:09:03,925 Speaker 1: And then and you're a trade and then so. 156 00:09:03,925 --> 00:09:06,885 Speaker 5: I'm a build a carpenter by trade and kind. 157 00:09:06,685 --> 00:09:11,245 Speaker 3: Of again very handy. You don't want a soft handed 158 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:14,245 Speaker 3: paper push up. What you need is someone who can 159 00:09:14,405 --> 00:09:15,525 Speaker 3: undo the pressure cooker. 160 00:09:15,685 --> 00:09:17,925 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly when he definitely does that. 161 00:09:18,205 --> 00:09:21,725 Speaker 2: So so much like Sarah, like just a really close family, 162 00:09:22,365 --> 00:09:26,085 Speaker 2: two sisters, so stuck in the middle of sometimes I 163 00:09:26,125 --> 00:09:28,965 Speaker 2: say the rose between the thorns. I am with an 164 00:09:29,005 --> 00:09:34,485 Speaker 2: older and young I bet the love it. But like 165 00:09:34,805 --> 00:09:38,205 Speaker 2: they're you know, prior to Sarah coming into my life, 166 00:09:38,285 --> 00:09:40,405 Speaker 2: there's still like some of the most prominent women in 167 00:09:40,445 --> 00:09:43,365 Speaker 2: my life, my mum and my two sisters, so very 168 00:09:43,485 --> 00:09:46,925 Speaker 2: very strong relationship with them, and I think, you know 169 00:09:47,045 --> 00:09:51,445 Speaker 2: that that was really important in my upbringing and my 170 00:09:51,645 --> 00:09:56,285 Speaker 2: sort of like my ethos with life, you know, growing 171 00:09:56,325 --> 00:09:59,525 Speaker 2: up in a household with no shortage of women. 172 00:10:00,605 --> 00:10:02,925 Speaker 3: And you like to tilt and win mills, so you 173 00:10:03,125 --> 00:10:06,125 Speaker 3: like to go this may seem impossible to some, but 174 00:10:06,205 --> 00:10:07,245 Speaker 3: this is what I want to do. 175 00:10:07,805 --> 00:10:12,165 Speaker 5: Yeah. In regards to work and cooking, yeah, definitely. 176 00:10:12,285 --> 00:10:16,525 Speaker 2: I've always like liked pushing the boundaries with myself with 177 00:10:16,685 --> 00:10:20,045 Speaker 2: things that I'm doing. And you know, I'm not the 178 00:10:20,165 --> 00:10:23,005 Speaker 2: kind of person that likes to be indoors and not 179 00:10:23,045 --> 00:10:24,925 Speaker 2: doing anything. I think, you know, as soon as I 180 00:10:24,965 --> 00:10:27,285 Speaker 2: could get on the job site and be a trade 181 00:10:27,285 --> 00:10:30,205 Speaker 2: working outside, I thrived on that and I think the 182 00:10:30,285 --> 00:10:33,605 Speaker 2: creativity kind of came in par with cooking. 183 00:10:33,645 --> 00:10:34,605 Speaker 5: It was very similar. 184 00:10:34,685 --> 00:10:38,405 Speaker 2: I never thought I'd get Top three on Master Chef 185 00:10:38,445 --> 00:10:41,565 Speaker 2: Australia and then go on to you know, finding the 186 00:10:41,645 --> 00:10:43,525 Speaker 2: love of my life on the shows. 187 00:10:43,645 --> 00:10:46,685 Speaker 3: And then when you were both invited back, yeah, for 188 00:10:46,725 --> 00:10:50,285 Speaker 3: the for the back to win the series, what was 189 00:10:50,365 --> 00:10:54,685 Speaker 3: Can you remember the moment when you first saw Sarah. 190 00:10:55,165 --> 00:10:58,325 Speaker 5: I was just like, oh, this bloody bombshells on the show. 191 00:10:58,685 --> 00:11:00,805 Speaker 5: It's going to be hard to keep my eyes off her, and. 192 00:11:02,605 --> 00:11:07,245 Speaker 7: Really like it was like she's gorgeous, She's stunning, and 193 00:11:07,245 --> 00:11:11,205 Speaker 7: and you know I was there with no intentions of 194 00:11:11,285 --> 00:11:12,765 Speaker 7: anything other than to win the show. 195 00:11:13,325 --> 00:11:17,645 Speaker 3: So and you were both emotionally unencumbered when you came 196 00:11:17,685 --> 00:11:21,605 Speaker 3: to Yeah, yeah, definitely so, which which was really special. 197 00:11:21,645 --> 00:11:25,525 Speaker 2: And I think, you know the foundations of our relationship 198 00:11:25,565 --> 00:11:28,045 Speaker 2: were built on a friendship and we were spending a 199 00:11:28,045 --> 00:11:31,165 Speaker 2: lot of time hanging out as friends with with no 200 00:11:31,285 --> 00:11:32,965 Speaker 2: intention speaking for myself. 201 00:11:33,845 --> 00:11:34,965 Speaker 5: But I didn't have. 202 00:11:36,405 --> 00:11:39,365 Speaker 3: Well you know, I know, of course I can I 203 00:11:39,485 --> 00:11:44,765 Speaker 3: ask this, was there no intention because you thought my 204 00:11:44,925 --> 00:11:47,965 Speaker 3: priorities have to be on the people? 205 00:11:48,245 --> 00:11:52,525 Speaker 1: Always was that no intention? Because you were like, I 206 00:11:52,565 --> 00:11:53,565 Speaker 1: don't have a chance. 207 00:11:53,965 --> 00:11:57,285 Speaker 2: No, I just in the scheme of life, and I 208 00:11:57,325 --> 00:11:58,525 Speaker 2: think I've got a chance. 209 00:12:00,725 --> 00:12:04,885 Speaker 6: Remember the first time, you know, really no seeing Declan 210 00:12:05,005 --> 00:12:07,085 Speaker 6: and he came down and he sat down and was 211 00:12:07,125 --> 00:12:09,245 Speaker 6: sitting in the green room and he just came down 212 00:12:09,405 --> 00:12:11,885 Speaker 6: and it just hit me straight with questions and like 213 00:12:11,965 --> 00:12:13,965 Speaker 6: started trying to you know, get to know me. And 214 00:12:14,005 --> 00:12:17,165 Speaker 6: I was I really admired that. I think someone who 215 00:12:17,325 --> 00:12:21,645 Speaker 6: you know, can just he's so himself and it's and 216 00:12:21,725 --> 00:12:24,285 Speaker 6: I loved seeing that. I think there's you know, there's 217 00:12:24,325 --> 00:12:27,085 Speaker 6: no barriers. He's not hiding who he is. He's really 218 00:12:27,085 --> 00:12:29,445 Speaker 6: proud and he sat down and he just had a 219 00:12:29,445 --> 00:12:32,245 Speaker 6: good old chat with me, and it was really amazing. 220 00:12:32,285 --> 00:12:34,685 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this is great, Like I really 221 00:12:34,885 --> 00:12:40,045 Speaker 6: appreciated it. 222 00:12:37,845 --> 00:12:39,365 Speaker 5: Should be or not, you know. 223 00:12:39,485 --> 00:12:42,485 Speaker 3: And also, I think increasingly in the world people are 224 00:12:42,885 --> 00:12:46,605 Speaker 3: scared to show themselves for a myriad of reasons. But 225 00:12:47,325 --> 00:12:52,885 Speaker 3: you have always been totally yourself and that's a very 226 00:12:52,965 --> 00:12:54,285 Speaker 3: lovable quality. 227 00:12:54,565 --> 00:12:57,725 Speaker 1: It's really beautiful. But I was wondering. 228 00:12:57,325 --> 00:13:02,885 Speaker 3: How onto the growing bond between you two the people 229 00:13:02,885 --> 00:13:06,845 Speaker 3: who were making the show were, because I noticed in 230 00:13:06,885 --> 00:13:10,325 Speaker 3: the Maggie Beer episode. In fact, I took a screenshot 231 00:13:10,525 --> 00:13:12,965 Speaker 3: of the moment they did a cutaway to YouTube. Okay, 232 00:13:13,085 --> 00:13:16,245 Speaker 3: do you see that? No, I just went, I'll show 233 00:13:16,285 --> 00:13:21,405 Speaker 3: you it's and I'm like, hello, are you showing each 234 00:13:21,405 --> 00:13:22,165 Speaker 3: other goosebump? 235 00:13:23,325 --> 00:13:25,605 Speaker 1: We are? 236 00:13:28,005 --> 00:13:28,805 Speaker 5: Yeah? 237 00:13:30,125 --> 00:13:31,365 Speaker 1: Maybe is amazing. 238 00:13:31,565 --> 00:13:35,965 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a very rare honor to cook, you know. 239 00:13:36,405 --> 00:13:37,605 Speaker 4: Yeah, really sweet. 240 00:13:37,645 --> 00:13:40,165 Speaker 3: But they did a quick cutaway to YouTube. And then 241 00:13:40,205 --> 00:13:42,445 Speaker 3: increasingly I was sort of noticing that you two were 242 00:13:42,485 --> 00:13:43,165 Speaker 3: often together. 243 00:13:43,365 --> 00:13:47,285 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I think that the friendship that started. We 244 00:13:47,325 --> 00:13:50,725 Speaker 2: always felt comfortable around each other on set because there's 245 00:13:50,885 --> 00:13:53,005 Speaker 2: you know, there's one hundred, one hundred and fifty people 246 00:13:53,085 --> 00:13:57,405 Speaker 2: on set every day, only twenty four contestants, so you 247 00:13:57,485 --> 00:13:59,805 Speaker 2: do really want to find you know, your group and 248 00:13:59,885 --> 00:14:03,405 Speaker 2: whether it was us, you know, going out to exercise 249 00:14:03,525 --> 00:14:06,485 Speaker 2: to kill time, because in television there's. 250 00:14:06,285 --> 00:14:07,605 Speaker 5: A lot of hurry up and there's a lot of 251 00:14:07,645 --> 00:14:08,245 Speaker 5: waiting around. 252 00:14:08,685 --> 00:14:12,165 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, we'd film an episode where 253 00:14:12,205 --> 00:14:14,205 Speaker 2: you had a seventy five minute cook but it would 254 00:14:14,245 --> 00:14:16,965 Speaker 2: be a fourteen hour yeah, yes, yes, yes, So just 255 00:14:17,005 --> 00:14:20,445 Speaker 2: trying to keep saying in that in doing having healthy 256 00:14:20,485 --> 00:14:24,245 Speaker 2: habits on set, you know, whether it's exercising, whether it's 257 00:14:24,525 --> 00:14:26,885 Speaker 2: finding a TV show to binge out on, whether it's 258 00:14:26,925 --> 00:14:30,725 Speaker 2: studying notes together or you know, kind of brainstorming ideas. 259 00:14:31,005 --> 00:14:34,205 Speaker 2: I think that was important in trying to find the 260 00:14:34,245 --> 00:14:37,565 Speaker 2: normality of a situation that really isn't normal to anyone. 261 00:14:38,205 --> 00:14:42,165 Speaker 3: And it's this may seem, you know, like a sudden thing, 262 00:14:42,725 --> 00:14:46,645 Speaker 3: but I think when you've been in circumstances like that, Yeah, 263 00:14:46,685 --> 00:14:50,405 Speaker 3: any reality TV has this. Really it is like the 264 00:14:50,405 --> 00:14:52,805 Speaker 3: pressure cocker because things happen more quickly. 265 00:14:53,365 --> 00:14:55,965 Speaker 1: You know, the meat gets tender, I see very quickly. 266 00:14:56,085 --> 00:14:57,685 Speaker 4: You're seeing all sides of a person. 267 00:14:58,005 --> 00:15:01,445 Speaker 6: Ultimately, it's a competition exactly you're seeing people at breaking 268 00:15:01,485 --> 00:15:06,045 Speaker 6: point as a highs and you know you're also surrounded 269 00:15:06,045 --> 00:15:08,525 Speaker 6: by people who want to win, so you do need 270 00:15:08,565 --> 00:15:12,125 Speaker 6: to find someone who you feel like is someone you 271 00:15:12,165 --> 00:15:14,645 Speaker 6: can trust in a way, and someone who's sort of 272 00:15:15,125 --> 00:15:15,765 Speaker 6: like minded. 273 00:15:15,925 --> 00:15:17,805 Speaker 4: And I think we got to the point. 274 00:15:17,565 --> 00:15:21,005 Speaker 6: Where we wouldn't have minded if either one of us won, 275 00:15:21,445 --> 00:15:24,125 Speaker 6: you know, and I think it's nice to actually build 276 00:15:24,125 --> 00:15:26,845 Speaker 6: a friendship beyond that competitive nature. 277 00:15:27,005 --> 00:15:28,325 Speaker 4: So I think we got to that point. 278 00:15:28,405 --> 00:15:30,205 Speaker 1: When have you watched the show back together? 279 00:15:30,485 --> 00:15:33,645 Speaker 6: We watched glimpses, like we haven't watched every single episode 280 00:15:33,685 --> 00:15:36,685 Speaker 6: just because we it's pre filmed, and then we were 281 00:15:36,685 --> 00:15:38,005 Speaker 6: already jumped into. 282 00:15:37,925 --> 00:15:39,005 Speaker 4: Work and other comments. 283 00:15:39,085 --> 00:15:40,885 Speaker 1: But we see moments. 284 00:15:40,965 --> 00:15:44,325 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was my mum. She's like, sorry, you've 285 00:15:44,325 --> 00:15:46,045 Speaker 4: gonna go and put this on you and. 286 00:15:46,005 --> 00:15:49,005 Speaker 6: Declan, you've had this moment and you've got to see it. 287 00:15:48,325 --> 00:15:52,965 Speaker 2: And they really when they because we did our announcement 288 00:15:53,045 --> 00:15:56,245 Speaker 2: with Stellar Magazine, which which was so nice to say 289 00:15:56,285 --> 00:16:01,525 Speaker 2: the narrative from us and get those beautiful shots together 290 00:16:01,565 --> 00:16:05,165 Speaker 2: which will cherish for a lifetime, but it was it 291 00:16:05,245 --> 00:16:09,205 Speaker 2: wasn't really until then that Master Chef jumped on board 292 00:16:09,365 --> 00:16:11,765 Speaker 2: and they're like you know, we'll actually work this into 293 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,965 Speaker 2: the narrative because we were so respectful to each other 294 00:16:15,085 --> 00:16:17,685 Speaker 2: on the show. It's like, yeah, you saw us standing 295 00:16:17,725 --> 00:16:20,445 Speaker 2: next to each other, but you know, I'd be standing 296 00:16:20,485 --> 00:16:24,005 Speaker 2: next to Rhiannon and there was no chemistry there. It's 297 00:16:24,085 --> 00:16:27,165 Speaker 2: like we were always respectful to that on the show. 298 00:16:27,205 --> 00:16:28,165 Speaker 1: But they. 299 00:16:29,805 --> 00:16:32,805 Speaker 5: Worked. They would have gone back. 300 00:16:32,845 --> 00:16:36,445 Speaker 6: Respectively, because it was also some of them even before. 301 00:16:36,445 --> 00:16:38,685 Speaker 4: Before we were we were friends. 302 00:16:38,725 --> 00:16:41,685 Speaker 1: Obviously at a little push or something. 303 00:16:42,445 --> 00:16:44,445 Speaker 4: If I touched him that would make it into. 304 00:16:46,165 --> 00:16:49,245 Speaker 3: Well because I sent a message to Pose, I was 305 00:16:49,285 --> 00:16:52,525 Speaker 3: speaking to you, and so I sent poem message and 306 00:16:52,565 --> 00:16:55,325 Speaker 3: I said, did you know about the romance? 307 00:16:55,605 --> 00:16:59,685 Speaker 1: And she sent me I'll tell you what you and 308 00:16:59,845 --> 00:17:00,845 Speaker 1: it was you know post. 309 00:17:00,925 --> 00:17:05,325 Speaker 6: So she's such a beautiful She's amazing, non gossipy sort 310 00:17:05,325 --> 00:17:09,965 Speaker 6: of person, but very astuu and you know, sees. 311 00:17:09,685 --> 00:17:10,125 Speaker 1: What goes on. 312 00:17:10,485 --> 00:17:17,445 Speaker 3: She said, Yeah, she said, Okay, I'm such a clueless twitt. 313 00:17:17,685 --> 00:17:19,045 Speaker 1: I missed it in tirely. 314 00:17:19,725 --> 00:17:20,765 Speaker 4: I think everybody did. 315 00:17:20,885 --> 00:17:23,765 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, I only found out the same time 316 00:17:23,805 --> 00:17:26,565 Speaker 3: as everyone else did. Although I have a friend who's 317 00:17:26,565 --> 00:17:29,765 Speaker 3: a contestant who told me after. It was all kind 318 00:17:29,765 --> 00:17:33,125 Speaker 3: of general knowledge amongst the other contestants and they didn't 319 00:17:33,205 --> 00:17:33,565 Speaker 3: hide it. 320 00:17:33,845 --> 00:17:38,045 Speaker 6: Yeah, like you know, we we didn't hide hanging out. 321 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:40,845 Speaker 2: We hung out all the time when I was at 322 00:17:40,845 --> 00:17:43,445 Speaker 2: the complex, like where we stayed. You'd all get a 323 00:17:43,485 --> 00:17:45,685 Speaker 2: bus in together and you'd get a bus home where 324 00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:48,805 Speaker 2: Sarah had you know, some of the Melbourne people stayed 325 00:17:48,885 --> 00:17:50,685 Speaker 2: at home and made their own way to say, right, 326 00:17:50,925 --> 00:17:53,005 Speaker 2: so you know, i'd leave set with Sarah or i'd 327 00:17:53,045 --> 00:17:55,685 Speaker 2: rop up with Sarah, and then I had those core 328 00:17:55,765 --> 00:17:59,045 Speaker 2: people within the group that you know, we're still staying 329 00:17:59,045 --> 00:17:59,325 Speaker 2: at the. 330 00:17:59,285 --> 00:18:02,245 Speaker 4: Complex, which was still only quite far along. 331 00:18:02,685 --> 00:18:06,325 Speaker 6: It was yeah, yeah, we had been spending a lot 332 00:18:06,405 --> 00:18:09,885 Speaker 6: of time previous to that, so I think, yeah. 333 00:18:10,045 --> 00:18:10,445 Speaker 5: It's. 334 00:18:11,845 --> 00:18:15,925 Speaker 3: It's funny, but were all, this is a producer's dream. 335 00:18:16,725 --> 00:18:19,285 Speaker 1: It was fantastic that would have been wrapped. 336 00:18:20,365 --> 00:18:23,525 Speaker 3: So when Declan went out, which I think was week 337 00:18:23,885 --> 00:18:34,965 Speaker 3: eleventh thirty two series, because it was an enormous scope 338 00:18:35,045 --> 00:18:39,725 Speaker 3: of a series at that point, how were you, Well. 339 00:18:39,525 --> 00:18:40,605 Speaker 4: It was really funny. 340 00:18:40,685 --> 00:18:43,965 Speaker 6: It was the first day where we sort of like 341 00:18:44,725 --> 00:18:47,685 Speaker 6: sat next to next to each other and like had 342 00:18:47,765 --> 00:18:48,885 Speaker 6: physical contact. 343 00:18:49,405 --> 00:18:51,725 Speaker 4: Right, was that that episode. 344 00:18:52,045 --> 00:18:54,005 Speaker 1: After the eviction or during it? 345 00:18:54,005 --> 00:18:58,485 Speaker 6: It was before eviction and we you know, obviously it 346 00:18:58,565 --> 00:19:01,725 Speaker 6: already started to develop at that point and we were close, 347 00:19:01,845 --> 00:19:04,205 Speaker 6: but we're also really mindful that we're in a work 348 00:19:04,285 --> 00:19:06,365 Speaker 6: situation and respectful. 349 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:06,925 Speaker 4: Of other people. 350 00:19:06,965 --> 00:19:09,685 Speaker 6: And that was the first day, and so it was 351 00:19:09,965 --> 00:19:12,845 Speaker 6: really quite devastating because it was like, oh gosh, like 352 00:19:12,885 --> 00:19:14,965 Speaker 6: we just felt comfortable to be ourselves. 353 00:19:15,085 --> 00:19:17,485 Speaker 3: And and what when you sat was the first moment 354 00:19:17,485 --> 00:19:20,445 Speaker 3: that you'd had a physical like that free song public 355 00:19:21,645 --> 00:19:24,005 Speaker 3: So what was it a handhold. 356 00:19:23,485 --> 00:19:26,245 Speaker 5: Or maybe just like. 357 00:19:27,325 --> 00:19:30,445 Speaker 2: Remember like on the couch and then it's just like 358 00:19:30,565 --> 00:19:32,445 Speaker 2: laying on it with my arm around. 359 00:19:32,405 --> 00:19:34,205 Speaker 5: Because I was like, you know, I. 360 00:19:36,445 --> 00:19:37,525 Speaker 1: Food and love. 361 00:19:39,045 --> 00:19:41,405 Speaker 2: It, and I think, you know, the whole respect thing, 362 00:19:41,485 --> 00:19:44,645 Speaker 2: like I didn't want to cross any boundaries and you know, 363 00:19:44,725 --> 00:19:48,565 Speaker 2: make Sarah feel uncomfortable on set and vice versa. So 364 00:19:49,005 --> 00:19:51,085 Speaker 2: you know, it was we'd spend a lot of time 365 00:19:51,085 --> 00:19:52,445 Speaker 2: with each other, but I'm not going to go it's 366 00:19:52,485 --> 00:19:55,445 Speaker 2: not going to on set or something like that, like 367 00:19:55,485 --> 00:19:58,365 Speaker 2: because it's it's just not professional. And then I think, 368 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:01,365 Speaker 2: you know, we're it was nice to finally feel that 369 00:20:01,445 --> 00:20:04,325 Speaker 2: comfortable where we can just throw our arm around each other. 370 00:20:04,405 --> 00:20:08,365 Speaker 2: You know, we're we're like spending staying living with each 371 00:20:08,405 --> 00:20:08,965 Speaker 2: other at. 372 00:20:08,805 --> 00:20:09,925 Speaker 5: That point pretty much. 373 00:20:09,965 --> 00:20:13,165 Speaker 2: So it's like we'd still go into the professional situation 374 00:20:13,405 --> 00:20:16,805 Speaker 2: and you know, and be professional. 375 00:20:17,125 --> 00:20:22,805 Speaker 3: And also I think things like Declan leaving, then you 376 00:20:23,045 --> 00:20:25,685 Speaker 3: have to be much more clear. You can't take for 377 00:20:25,805 --> 00:20:27,805 Speaker 3: granted the fact that you're going to be seeing each other, 378 00:20:28,405 --> 00:20:30,805 Speaker 3: you know, maybe for teen more weeks or whatever. 379 00:20:31,765 --> 00:20:35,005 Speaker 1: How did you feel them? Like, what was that Apex? 380 00:20:35,525 --> 00:20:37,005 Speaker 5: I was with her right? 381 00:20:37,845 --> 00:20:41,445 Speaker 1: No longer because you were about to go, Well, you 382 00:20:41,525 --> 00:20:43,885 Speaker 1: did say I was moved in. 383 00:20:44,365 --> 00:20:46,005 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was staying with me at that point. 384 00:20:46,045 --> 00:20:53,805 Speaker 6: So basically my family, my family, So my family. 385 00:20:53,485 --> 00:20:55,645 Speaker 4: Were taking turns to help with Phoenix. 386 00:20:55,725 --> 00:20:57,965 Speaker 6: So right, I was at home, you know, I had 387 00:20:58,005 --> 00:21:00,565 Speaker 6: to we would film from I'd have to leave home 388 00:21:00,605 --> 00:21:02,965 Speaker 6: at seven am, and I'd get home at sort of 389 00:21:03,365 --> 00:21:05,285 Speaker 6: I don't know. Some nights could be ninety eight or 390 00:21:05,325 --> 00:21:07,325 Speaker 6: seven or whatever, and he had to get dropped to 391 00:21:07,325 --> 00:21:08,205 Speaker 6: school and picked up. 392 00:21:08,245 --> 00:21:10,005 Speaker 4: So my mum would take turns. 393 00:21:10,045 --> 00:21:12,765 Speaker 6: Then my dad came down, took turns, and then there 394 00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:14,645 Speaker 6: was a period where my dad. 395 00:21:14,445 --> 00:21:15,165 Speaker 4: Had just left. 396 00:21:15,245 --> 00:21:20,125 Speaker 6: And this is when Declan like that transition eliminated, eliminated, 397 00:21:20,765 --> 00:21:22,965 Speaker 6: so then he. 398 00:21:27,125 --> 00:21:30,165 Speaker 5: I don't have to come now because they did like. 399 00:21:29,885 --> 00:21:32,565 Speaker 3: Oh, he's a nice boy. 400 00:21:32,805 --> 00:21:35,725 Speaker 2: Mum was there for six weeks and then she helped 401 00:21:35,725 --> 00:21:38,805 Speaker 2: and then and then Sarah's dad, Steve came for six weeks, 402 00:21:38,805 --> 00:21:41,205 Speaker 2: so it was really nice. I got to have those 403 00:21:41,285 --> 00:21:44,605 Speaker 2: interactions with them as well, so you know what I'm going, 404 00:21:45,045 --> 00:21:48,605 Speaker 2: there's banter and you know, like as friends. And then 405 00:21:48,645 --> 00:21:51,605 Speaker 2: they saw that grow. So then it was time where 406 00:21:52,045 --> 00:21:56,285 Speaker 2: I got eliminated. And it's like, you know, we've created 407 00:21:56,365 --> 00:21:59,485 Speaker 2: this bond and this and we were you know, we're 408 00:21:59,525 --> 00:22:02,925 Speaker 2: already together kind of at that point. And and then 409 00:22:03,005 --> 00:22:07,685 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, well, yeah, like I'll just take Phoenix 410 00:22:07,725 --> 00:22:08,525 Speaker 2: to school. 411 00:22:09,365 --> 00:22:10,925 Speaker 1: Out of the family by that point. 412 00:22:11,045 --> 00:22:14,525 Speaker 3: Yeah, and how was Phoenix because of is he thirteen 413 00:22:14,685 --> 00:22:15,405 Speaker 3: or fourteen? 414 00:22:15,645 --> 00:22:18,845 Speaker 4: Yeah? Look, it was really subtle. I think for us. 415 00:22:19,245 --> 00:22:23,085 Speaker 6: What was beautiful was that, you know, we were spending 416 00:22:23,085 --> 00:22:25,805 Speaker 6: like Declan's dad came down and visited, his mom, came down, 417 00:22:25,925 --> 00:22:28,925 Speaker 6: his sister, and then my dad, my mom, and so 418 00:22:29,005 --> 00:22:34,325 Speaker 6: we slowly just started building this friendship or relationship whatever 419 00:22:34,365 --> 00:22:35,165 Speaker 6: you want to call it. 420 00:22:35,205 --> 00:22:38,605 Speaker 4: And it evolved over time. So we were hanging out. 421 00:22:38,405 --> 00:22:42,885 Speaker 6: Before anything had happened, you know, before we'd really you know, 422 00:22:43,005 --> 00:22:46,085 Speaker 6: taken that next step and they're down playing paddle at 423 00:22:46,085 --> 00:22:49,405 Speaker 6: the beach and we're you know, having dinners and barbecues 424 00:22:49,445 --> 00:22:53,885 Speaker 6: at home and all these different, you know, regular situations. 425 00:22:53,925 --> 00:22:56,805 Speaker 6: So it was nice to see even Declan and my 426 00:22:56,845 --> 00:22:58,685 Speaker 6: son Phoenix's. 427 00:22:58,125 --> 00:23:02,405 Speaker 4: Bond grow just naturally. Before it wasn't like here's a boyfriend. 428 00:23:02,845 --> 00:23:07,245 Speaker 3: No, And also because particularly when there's a child involved, 429 00:23:07,245 --> 00:23:13,525 Speaker 3: but also families very protective, yeah, very and so they 430 00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:16,885 Speaker 3: would have been like, who's this guy. He's considerably younger, 431 00:23:16,925 --> 00:23:18,125 Speaker 3: he's eleven years younger than you. 432 00:23:18,925 --> 00:23:20,605 Speaker 1: Is he a blow in? Is he or whatever? 433 00:23:21,045 --> 00:23:24,125 Speaker 3: And then so you Declan had the chance to show 434 00:23:24,525 --> 00:23:34,005 Speaker 3: your character, which was of service, capable, reliable, honest and committed. 435 00:23:34,645 --> 00:23:35,485 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think. 436 00:23:37,445 --> 00:23:40,245 Speaker 2: It speaks for the kind of person Sarah is. I 437 00:23:40,285 --> 00:23:43,645 Speaker 2: don't think Sarah would ever like bring someone into her life, 438 00:23:43,725 --> 00:23:46,965 Speaker 2: like really like and Phoenix is so mature and such 439 00:23:47,005 --> 00:23:50,165 Speaker 2: an intelligent boy, and I think he would know that 440 00:23:50,245 --> 00:23:52,365 Speaker 2: he's like, you know, Mum's not going to bring in 441 00:23:52,405 --> 00:23:55,565 Speaker 2: some dickhead like and just like so it was like, 442 00:23:56,325 --> 00:23:58,765 Speaker 2: you know, I on the outskirt, like I've come from 443 00:23:58,765 --> 00:24:01,485 Speaker 2: a broken home and you know, dealt with you know, 444 00:24:01,765 --> 00:24:04,725 Speaker 2: step mums and that kind of stuff, So I know 445 00:24:04,805 --> 00:24:07,365 Speaker 2: how I felt as a fourteen year old boy, so 446 00:24:07,605 --> 00:24:10,925 Speaker 2: I was very empathetic as to how he might be feeling. 447 00:24:11,445 --> 00:24:14,845 Speaker 2: And you know, as always, like i'd always just go 448 00:24:15,125 --> 00:24:18,405 Speaker 2: to Sarah and just say, I'm guided by you on 449 00:24:18,525 --> 00:24:20,805 Speaker 2: how you want to do this, Like I love being 450 00:24:21,165 --> 00:24:24,405 Speaker 2: the decision maker and making decisions, but with this kind 451 00:24:24,405 --> 00:24:27,725 Speaker 2: of stuff, you know, it's it's your professional career. I've 452 00:24:27,765 --> 00:24:30,085 Speaker 2: been in this industry for two three years. Sarah has 453 00:24:30,125 --> 00:24:32,125 Speaker 2: been in it for you know, well over a decade. 454 00:24:33,005 --> 00:24:37,125 Speaker 2: It's your professional career, it's your son, it's it's your 455 00:24:37,605 --> 00:24:41,005 Speaker 2: you know, I'm guided by you. I want you to 456 00:24:41,605 --> 00:24:44,365 Speaker 2: be comfortable with however you want to go about this 457 00:24:44,565 --> 00:24:45,045 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 458 00:24:45,165 --> 00:24:47,605 Speaker 6: So yeah, and you know, even though it may look 459 00:24:47,725 --> 00:24:52,285 Speaker 6: like it's fast, it's been very thought out. 460 00:24:52,485 --> 00:24:54,925 Speaker 4: You know, each step that we take and everything that we. 461 00:24:55,005 --> 00:24:58,405 Speaker 6: Do and decision we make, we've talked about it endlessly 462 00:24:58,965 --> 00:25:00,005 Speaker 6: and thought about it. 463 00:25:00,085 --> 00:25:02,365 Speaker 4: And even this you know, slow. 464 00:25:02,165 --> 00:25:06,125 Speaker 6: Transitions with Phoenix and you know that essence that's all 465 00:25:06,165 --> 00:25:09,325 Speaker 6: been spoken about before you know, making any decisions. 466 00:25:09,405 --> 00:25:11,565 Speaker 4: So everyone's comfortable. And he is a smart boy. 467 00:25:11,605 --> 00:25:17,445 Speaker 6: He's really intelligent, both intelligence but also emotionally and he 468 00:25:17,685 --> 00:25:19,565 Speaker 6: you know, you do have to be delicate with that. 469 00:25:19,765 --> 00:25:22,165 Speaker 4: He's fourteen year old boy, and. 470 00:25:22,125 --> 00:25:24,565 Speaker 6: I don't want to be bringing people in his lives 471 00:25:24,925 --> 00:25:25,645 Speaker 6: in his life. 472 00:25:25,445 --> 00:25:27,085 Speaker 1: And taking itching them away. 473 00:25:27,245 --> 00:25:28,205 Speaker 4: He doesn't deserve that. 474 00:25:28,525 --> 00:25:31,125 Speaker 6: Yeah, so, you know, I think there's been a lot 475 00:25:31,165 --> 00:25:33,005 Speaker 6: of thought that's gone into all of it. 476 00:25:33,605 --> 00:25:39,565 Speaker 3: So you've left, but you're immeshed in the family. You're 477 00:25:39,605 --> 00:25:44,245 Speaker 3: continuing to cook. You're continuing to cook astoundingly by the way, 478 00:25:44,365 --> 00:25:47,845 Speaker 3: oh thank you, and looking beautiful while you do it, 479 00:25:48,085 --> 00:25:52,725 Speaker 3: which is not necessarily important, but it is television and 480 00:25:52,965 --> 00:25:56,325 Speaker 3: very beautiful to watch, Like, I've never seen anyone run 481 00:25:56,365 --> 00:25:57,925 Speaker 3: to a pantry and look graceful. 482 00:25:59,205 --> 00:26:00,045 Speaker 1: Sort of did. 483 00:26:00,725 --> 00:26:06,645 Speaker 3: Amazing to make these extraordinary to take these risks with 484 00:26:06,845 --> 00:26:10,925 Speaker 3: food when you do you think that part of the 485 00:26:10,965 --> 00:26:15,885 Speaker 3: reason that you were so alive in the show was 486 00:26:15,925 --> 00:26:20,245 Speaker 3: because you had the extra wind beneath your wings. 487 00:26:20,405 --> 00:26:25,365 Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, I think that I am, even though I 488 00:26:25,365 --> 00:26:28,925 Speaker 6: don't often show it. I'm a highly emotional person and 489 00:26:29,405 --> 00:26:32,525 Speaker 6: for me, that balance needs to be there in order 490 00:26:32,565 --> 00:26:35,165 Speaker 6: for me to perform and to do these crazy things. 491 00:26:35,205 --> 00:26:39,045 Speaker 6: And there was days where it sucks so much creative 492 00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:42,445 Speaker 6: energy and emotional energy out of me that I did 493 00:26:42,605 --> 00:26:45,485 Speaker 6: need to refuel and walk back into the kitchen and 494 00:26:45,765 --> 00:26:48,525 Speaker 6: I'd come home and it was it was like walking 495 00:26:48,565 --> 00:26:51,245 Speaker 6: even though it is my home. It was walking into 496 00:26:51,765 --> 00:26:54,965 Speaker 6: a home where it felt like, you know, it was 497 00:26:55,205 --> 00:26:57,885 Speaker 6: full and it was really beautiful. It was Decline, it 498 00:26:57,965 --> 00:27:01,285 Speaker 6: was sol the dog. It was Phoenix, it was dog. 499 00:27:03,005 --> 00:27:03,205 Speaker 2: Yeah. 500 00:27:03,845 --> 00:27:07,485 Speaker 1: From I was like, what sort of dog. 501 00:27:07,845 --> 00:27:09,485 Speaker 5: Here's a Hungarian vislock. 502 00:27:09,605 --> 00:27:14,245 Speaker 3: Really hunting dog, pointing. 503 00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:16,645 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, yes, but it was yeah, like I was. 504 00:27:17,045 --> 00:27:19,085 Speaker 2: I was there to drop Sarah off on set in 505 00:27:19,125 --> 00:27:21,285 Speaker 2: the mornings, you know, so she could get all the 506 00:27:21,325 --> 00:27:23,405 Speaker 2: makeup done in the car on the way and we're 507 00:27:23,485 --> 00:27:25,525 Speaker 2: up the bay, so it was it's about an hour 508 00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:28,725 Speaker 2: drive on a good day to get to the studio. 509 00:27:29,845 --> 00:27:32,765 Speaker 2: So you know, like Sarah leave it saying getting there 510 00:27:32,765 --> 00:27:34,525 Speaker 2: at seven, you know, you'd leave at six in the 511 00:27:34,565 --> 00:27:37,525 Speaker 2: morning and then coming home at nine at night, but 512 00:27:37,565 --> 00:27:40,085 Speaker 2: there've been food there, like, you know, so she can 513 00:27:40,165 --> 00:27:44,845 Speaker 2: refuel or like you know, brainstorming ideas and staying up 514 00:27:44,925 --> 00:27:47,845 Speaker 2: to all hours of the night like helping her you know, 515 00:27:48,005 --> 00:27:51,085 Speaker 2: think or practice like I remember us, you know, making 516 00:27:51,125 --> 00:27:53,765 Speaker 2: buddy milk buttons at eleven pm at night, which you know, 517 00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:56,325 Speaker 2: I like just and it was that and I just knew, 518 00:27:56,365 --> 00:27:58,485 Speaker 2: I'm like this, this is only for a short period, 519 00:27:58,565 --> 00:28:01,605 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter if I'm burning myself to the 520 00:28:01,645 --> 00:28:04,765 Speaker 2: absolute end. I know the grand finale date is on 521 00:28:04,805 --> 00:28:07,765 Speaker 2: this date, whether she's in it or not, Like I can, 522 00:28:07,965 --> 00:28:11,805 Speaker 2: you know, I can absolutely drive her to the end. 523 00:28:12,005 --> 00:28:16,925 Speaker 3: This is interesting because you've had such you know, as 524 00:28:16,925 --> 00:28:20,965 Speaker 3: Declan said, you had a very established life, but a 525 00:28:20,965 --> 00:28:22,085 Speaker 3: lot of it you had. 526 00:28:21,885 --> 00:28:23,245 Speaker 1: Done on your own. 527 00:28:25,085 --> 00:28:27,845 Speaker 3: Was how did it feel and what was the point 528 00:28:27,885 --> 00:28:29,925 Speaker 3: at which you went? You know that a part of 529 00:28:29,965 --> 00:28:33,605 Speaker 3: you can relax into the fact that there's someone there 530 00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:37,525 Speaker 3: that is solid and stable and there for you. 531 00:28:37,725 --> 00:28:38,805 Speaker 1: Was there a moment. 532 00:28:38,525 --> 00:28:42,805 Speaker 3: Where you where you just felt the ease of that. 533 00:28:43,325 --> 00:28:45,165 Speaker 4: I think there's kind of two sides to it. 534 00:28:45,205 --> 00:28:48,525 Speaker 6: I feel like that was very hard for me to 535 00:28:48,565 --> 00:28:52,965 Speaker 6: do because I have always done everything and managed everything 536 00:28:53,085 --> 00:28:55,845 Speaker 6: and found a way, no matter what it did to 537 00:28:55,885 --> 00:28:59,165 Speaker 6: me physically emotionally, I'd always get up and you know, 538 00:28:59,325 --> 00:29:02,205 Speaker 6: put the pieces back together. And there was the other 539 00:29:02,285 --> 00:29:05,725 Speaker 6: side where it was like, you know, I felt like 540 00:29:05,885 --> 00:29:10,165 Speaker 6: this was just so real and it was like it 541 00:29:10,445 --> 00:29:12,685 Speaker 6: was this kind of one side trying to let go 542 00:29:12,845 --> 00:29:16,125 Speaker 6: and relax into it. But the other side just going no, 543 00:29:16,725 --> 00:29:19,845 Speaker 6: I can't, I can't let myself do that because I've 544 00:29:19,885 --> 00:29:23,525 Speaker 6: never done it before and it was really nice, and 545 00:29:23,565 --> 00:29:26,885 Speaker 6: it's it's like probably still happening now. 546 00:29:26,845 --> 00:29:27,805 Speaker 5: Like like. 547 00:29:29,645 --> 00:29:32,805 Speaker 3: That that a relationship takes a kind of surrender. 548 00:29:33,045 --> 00:29:33,725 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does. 549 00:29:34,205 --> 00:29:41,205 Speaker 3: And if you're someone who's been fiercely independent, that requires 550 00:29:41,245 --> 00:29:42,805 Speaker 3: a different set of muscles. 551 00:29:42,925 --> 00:29:43,245 Speaker 5: Yeah. 552 00:29:43,285 --> 00:29:44,645 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And in. 553 00:29:44,525 --> 00:29:47,925 Speaker 1: What way were you resisting that, do you think? Oh? 554 00:29:48,325 --> 00:29:49,445 Speaker 4: Probably in every way. 555 00:29:49,685 --> 00:29:54,085 Speaker 6: Like I think just like letting him just make the dinner, 556 00:29:54,685 --> 00:29:57,725 Speaker 6: you know who, like even as small things, and then 557 00:29:58,365 --> 00:30:01,485 Speaker 6: for him to you know, pick Phoenix up from you know, 558 00:30:02,005 --> 00:30:05,725 Speaker 6: from school. I was like, I've never I've never asked 559 00:30:05,765 --> 00:30:07,925 Speaker 6: anybody to do that before other than you know, my 560 00:30:08,045 --> 00:30:11,685 Speaker 6: mom or my dad. That's the only people I've ever asked. 561 00:30:11,725 --> 00:30:15,765 Speaker 6: I've never had babysitters or anything. You know, it's kind 562 00:30:15,765 --> 00:30:17,885 Speaker 6: of in Australian blood to just go you have to 563 00:30:17,885 --> 00:30:20,405 Speaker 6: do it all yourself, you know, it's not only just 564 00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:24,565 Speaker 6: being single, it's an independent it's also our makeup. Yeah, 565 00:30:24,605 --> 00:30:29,045 Speaker 6: so I think, yeah, like it's still kind of happening. 566 00:30:28,805 --> 00:30:33,805 Speaker 3: And so Declan strikes me as being quite patient. Yeah, 567 00:30:34,045 --> 00:30:36,565 Speaker 3: or did he move things along in that regard. 568 00:30:37,765 --> 00:30:40,845 Speaker 6: Look, he's just I think that everything that Declan does, 569 00:30:40,925 --> 00:30:43,885 Speaker 6: he does it without expecting anything in return. 570 00:30:44,285 --> 00:30:45,405 Speaker 4: He just genuinely and. 571 00:30:45,365 --> 00:30:46,965 Speaker 6: It's not just for me. I see it with all 572 00:30:47,005 --> 00:30:49,685 Speaker 6: of his friends, his family. You know, he'll give his 573 00:30:49,805 --> 00:30:52,725 Speaker 6: time and he'll do these small things, whether it's you know, 574 00:30:52,805 --> 00:30:56,925 Speaker 6: a little message in the morning to you know, brighten 575 00:30:56,925 --> 00:31:00,365 Speaker 6: your day, or something extra for his family, Like, he'll 576 00:31:00,365 --> 00:31:01,965 Speaker 6: always go out of his way to do that. 577 00:31:02,885 --> 00:31:03,685 Speaker 5: A lot more would so. 578 00:31:05,445 --> 00:31:09,325 Speaker 3: He gets a special Yeah, because you said something really 579 00:31:09,445 --> 00:31:14,765 Speaker 3: lovely in the episode where Declan left, and that was 580 00:31:14,845 --> 00:31:17,485 Speaker 3: interesting as well, that the only person that they asked. 581 00:31:17,525 --> 00:31:20,845 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously probably it was edited that way, but 582 00:31:20,925 --> 00:31:21,845 Speaker 3: they left your. 583 00:31:21,725 --> 00:31:24,605 Speaker 1: Commenting and I wrote it down. I didn't get a word. 584 00:31:24,445 --> 00:31:26,645 Speaker 3: For word, but it was so beautiful what you said 585 00:31:27,485 --> 00:31:30,845 Speaker 3: when they asked you to discuss what Declan had meant 586 00:31:31,005 --> 00:31:33,725 Speaker 3: to the show, and you said, he's a light for 587 00:31:33,845 --> 00:31:37,365 Speaker 3: everyone in the room and he lifts everyone up. Yeah, 588 00:31:37,405 --> 00:31:41,565 Speaker 3: that's such like I find this quite moving. Your that 589 00:31:41,725 --> 00:31:44,405 Speaker 3: surrendering thing I think is very hard for women who 590 00:31:44,445 --> 00:31:48,165 Speaker 3: have been stoic and used to doing things. 591 00:31:47,925 --> 00:31:51,565 Speaker 5: On their own. Yeah, definitely and I see. 592 00:31:52,125 --> 00:31:55,605 Speaker 2: I'm aware that how hard that is for Sarah because 593 00:31:55,605 --> 00:31:57,805 Speaker 2: I can see it at times, you know, her wanting 594 00:31:57,845 --> 00:32:00,485 Speaker 2: to do everything. And I've come from a family with 595 00:32:00,605 --> 00:32:04,765 Speaker 2: three fiercely and independent women as well, so I think 596 00:32:04,845 --> 00:32:07,445 Speaker 2: that's kind of helped me adjust to that. And I 597 00:32:07,525 --> 00:32:10,525 Speaker 2: let her do things like and then you know when 598 00:32:11,245 --> 00:32:15,165 Speaker 2: when she see I let her see herself exhausting herself 599 00:32:15,205 --> 00:32:17,685 Speaker 2: that little bit more, maybe in a way where I 600 00:32:17,765 --> 00:32:19,525 Speaker 2: could have helped, and then she's like, oh no, I 601 00:32:19,605 --> 00:32:22,885 Speaker 2: might let deck do that, or I might ask just 602 00:32:22,925 --> 00:32:25,005 Speaker 2: once and say I'll do this, and if she says no, 603 00:32:25,125 --> 00:32:27,245 Speaker 2: like I respect that, but then she might come to 604 00:32:27,285 --> 00:32:28,965 Speaker 2: me the next week and be like, oh, maybe you 605 00:32:29,005 --> 00:32:29,525 Speaker 2: can do that. 606 00:32:30,165 --> 00:32:31,405 Speaker 5: Like I don't want to be. 607 00:32:31,685 --> 00:32:35,125 Speaker 2: Controlling in any way whatsoever, but I feel like, you know, 608 00:32:35,245 --> 00:32:38,085 Speaker 2: like Sarah said, we're still figuring all this out, yes, 609 00:32:38,205 --> 00:32:42,285 Speaker 2: and I think it's like we, you know, we really 610 00:32:42,365 --> 00:32:44,205 Speaker 2: just threw ourself into the thick of it. 611 00:32:47,125 --> 00:32:49,725 Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. Sarah and Declan have plenty more to 612 00:32:49,805 --> 00:32:57,765 Speaker 3: share right after this. So then the show finished, You're 613 00:32:59,005 --> 00:33:02,445 Speaker 3: obviously on this path now. I mean, you've gone to Factor, 614 00:33:03,405 --> 00:33:05,925 Speaker 3: You've gone to Factory and then. 615 00:33:05,845 --> 00:33:07,165 Speaker 1: You go overseas together. 616 00:33:07,685 --> 00:33:10,965 Speaker 5: Yeah, we move in, we go oversee And what was. 617 00:33:10,885 --> 00:33:14,045 Speaker 3: The trip originally? Was it a trip that was that 618 00:33:14,085 --> 00:33:16,605 Speaker 3: you had planned together? Was a trip you were originally 619 00:33:16,645 --> 00:33:18,565 Speaker 3: going to have or how did that work? 620 00:33:19,685 --> 00:33:19,805 Speaker 1: Well? 621 00:33:19,885 --> 00:33:20,325 Speaker 2: How many. 622 00:33:22,045 --> 00:33:23,165 Speaker 1: Of Paris? I know? 623 00:33:23,285 --> 00:33:25,925 Speaker 5: Paris, Europe, Dubai, India. 624 00:33:26,565 --> 00:33:30,005 Speaker 2: We've just spent three weeks on the road driving around Australia. 625 00:33:30,845 --> 00:33:33,085 Speaker 6: We've kept the first trip was actually a work trip 626 00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:37,925 Speaker 6: of mine, and then it was to India. And I 627 00:33:37,965 --> 00:33:42,045 Speaker 6: was like, you need to come and experience India because it. 628 00:33:41,725 --> 00:33:46,245 Speaker 3: So because you're massive, because Master she is a huge 629 00:33:46,485 --> 00:33:49,245 Speaker 3: India and you're huge in India. 630 00:33:50,965 --> 00:33:55,845 Speaker 6: Wells, yeah, I mean I have a big, long career 631 00:33:55,885 --> 00:33:58,965 Speaker 6: in India. And it was nice to I think that 632 00:33:59,085 --> 00:34:01,445 Speaker 6: I have such a love of India and I've been 633 00:34:01,485 --> 00:34:03,445 Speaker 6: seeing it through my eyes for so long. It was 634 00:34:03,525 --> 00:34:06,805 Speaker 6: really beautiful to show decline and to see it for 635 00:34:06,845 --> 00:34:09,885 Speaker 6: the first time through his eyes. And just I think 636 00:34:09,925 --> 00:34:13,645 Speaker 6: that we had the most beautiful trip and the places 637 00:34:13,645 --> 00:34:14,845 Speaker 6: that have become familiar to me. 638 00:34:14,925 --> 00:34:15,925 Speaker 4: And what do they. 639 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:21,525 Speaker 2: Call us again, the jujiuji as husband of a sister. 640 00:34:21,805 --> 00:34:24,725 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm they calling me a sister of India. 641 00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:28,405 Speaker 6: And him like, you know my husband, which is I 642 00:34:28,565 --> 00:34:31,045 Speaker 6: was like, oh my gosh, well that was kind of 643 00:34:31,085 --> 00:34:34,205 Speaker 6: a moment for me to realize that India is calling 644 00:34:34,245 --> 00:34:37,685 Speaker 6: me a sister. Yeah, I feel and they're like, oh, 645 00:34:37,765 --> 00:34:40,725 Speaker 6: you know, it's like, you know, I've been there always, 646 00:34:40,805 --> 00:34:44,405 Speaker 6: and I think that the food scene I've been you know, 647 00:34:44,485 --> 00:34:47,805 Speaker 6: speckled through it for the last eleven twelve years and 648 00:34:48,165 --> 00:34:51,565 Speaker 6: it was nice to yeah, to kind of just see 649 00:34:52,045 --> 00:34:58,365 Speaker 6: the response of Declan coming to India and yeah, and 650 00:34:58,405 --> 00:35:01,245 Speaker 6: it was beautiful, Like I think it was really well 651 00:35:01,285 --> 00:35:05,325 Speaker 6: received also by the media and and you know, everyone 652 00:35:05,405 --> 00:35:07,445 Speaker 6: reaching out to us while we're there. 653 00:35:07,565 --> 00:35:09,125 Speaker 4: It felt really special. 654 00:35:10,125 --> 00:35:14,605 Speaker 3: And because you know, sometimes I think relationships that have 655 00:35:14,725 --> 00:35:18,965 Speaker 3: started in a covert sort of way because you know, 656 00:35:19,085 --> 00:35:22,045 Speaker 3: it wasn't for public consumption at that time, sometimes when 657 00:35:22,045 --> 00:35:25,045 Speaker 3: they step into the open, the nature of the relationship 658 00:35:25,165 --> 00:35:29,285 Speaker 3: changes because the secrecy has added an extra little fits 659 00:35:29,485 --> 00:35:33,045 Speaker 3: on to it, and when you are walking in the light, 660 00:35:34,125 --> 00:35:36,685 Speaker 3: it can change a little bit. Did you have any 661 00:35:36,805 --> 00:35:41,405 Speaker 3: moments where you were like or you were like, oh, 662 00:35:41,525 --> 00:35:44,405 Speaker 3: this is an unexpected aspect of this person. 663 00:35:45,525 --> 00:35:48,325 Speaker 2: I think that's the special thing is from the moment 664 00:35:48,405 --> 00:35:51,885 Speaker 2: I met Sarah we were just in sync and that 665 00:35:52,045 --> 00:35:56,125 Speaker 2: we obviously have differences, but you know, whether it's our values, 666 00:35:56,165 --> 00:35:59,525 Speaker 2: our morals, like her speaking of what I do in 667 00:35:59,565 --> 00:36:01,765 Speaker 2: the morning, she does it as well. And she is 668 00:36:01,845 --> 00:36:05,925 Speaker 2: such a fiercely independent woman. I feel lucky that you 669 00:36:05,965 --> 00:36:08,045 Speaker 2: and I've swept off her feet and I've. 670 00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:08,925 Speaker 5: Ended up with her. 671 00:36:09,525 --> 00:36:14,645 Speaker 2: But it's just like it's it's honestly so special to 672 00:36:15,445 --> 00:36:19,405 Speaker 2: have met someone that is so on the same page 673 00:36:19,445 --> 00:36:23,685 Speaker 2: with me with morals of life, with values, which I 674 00:36:23,685 --> 00:36:26,485 Speaker 2: think is really important in the cause of a relationship, 675 00:36:28,205 --> 00:36:31,445 Speaker 2: Like is you know you want to be best friends? 676 00:36:31,445 --> 00:36:34,285 Speaker 5: And I can call herm a best friend. Like it's like, 677 00:36:35,085 --> 00:36:35,725 Speaker 5: you know, we do. 678 00:36:36,525 --> 00:36:39,365 Speaker 2: We're we've thrown ourselves in the deep end where we're 679 00:36:39,365 --> 00:36:42,365 Speaker 2: working together, we're living together, we did the show together, 680 00:36:42,845 --> 00:36:46,125 Speaker 2: we're traveling together. Like there's not not and you know, 681 00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:48,605 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm sure I drive her up 682 00:36:48,645 --> 00:36:50,005 Speaker 2: the bloody wall sometimes. 683 00:36:50,805 --> 00:36:53,565 Speaker 3: I did see in one of yours you're saying him, 684 00:36:53,605 --> 00:36:54,445 Speaker 3: don't be lazy. 685 00:36:56,325 --> 00:36:59,205 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just banter. 686 00:36:59,485 --> 00:37:02,285 Speaker 2: And it's like we have such a such a good friendship, 687 00:37:02,645 --> 00:37:05,605 Speaker 2: which I think is something I haven't had in the past, 688 00:37:06,045 --> 00:37:10,165 Speaker 2: and it's going into Master Chef without those intentions to 689 00:37:10,205 --> 00:37:12,605 Speaker 2: find someone, and I was kind of on a journey 690 00:37:13,525 --> 00:37:15,845 Speaker 2: of like not wanting to be in a relationship for 691 00:37:15,925 --> 00:37:16,525 Speaker 2: a little while. 692 00:37:16,605 --> 00:37:18,805 Speaker 5: I was like, all right, and then and then. 693 00:37:18,725 --> 00:37:21,205 Speaker 1: Sarah, and just focus on the bistro dream. 694 00:37:21,365 --> 00:37:23,085 Speaker 5: Yeah that, but just focus you know. 695 00:37:23,205 --> 00:37:27,165 Speaker 2: I absolutely love building, and it's like I just didn't 696 00:37:27,165 --> 00:37:31,605 Speaker 2: want I went on Master Chef and then I'm like sweet, Like, 697 00:37:31,725 --> 00:37:33,405 Speaker 2: you know, if I win this, I can really get 698 00:37:33,445 --> 00:37:36,925 Speaker 2: a quarter of a meal behind myself to capitalize on that. 699 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:40,925 Speaker 2: But my goal is to you know, have a portfolio 700 00:37:40,925 --> 00:37:43,845 Speaker 2: on build my homes and like you know, build a 701 00:37:43,885 --> 00:37:47,565 Speaker 2: family and stuff like that. And it's you know, I'm 702 00:37:47,925 --> 00:37:51,485 Speaker 2: I'm just so grateful for the opportunity to be on 703 00:37:51,605 --> 00:37:52,325 Speaker 2: Master Chef. 704 00:37:53,765 --> 00:37:56,445 Speaker 5: This is my first podcast I've ever been on as well. 705 00:37:57,245 --> 00:37:59,725 Speaker 5: I've never done anything like this before. But I come 706 00:37:59,765 --> 00:38:01,205 Speaker 5: in here with a couple of butterflies. 707 00:38:03,045 --> 00:38:07,645 Speaker 2: Holy shit, much like Sarah, like never never spoken so 708 00:38:07,885 --> 00:38:10,925 Speaker 2: personally about my life, which I think this is this 709 00:38:10,965 --> 00:38:12,565 Speaker 2: is a big step for us. 710 00:38:12,805 --> 00:38:17,165 Speaker 3: When you were saying before the things that you've shared together, yeah, 711 00:38:17,285 --> 00:38:21,685 Speaker 3: you left something out. Yeah, When I said, hell, are 712 00:38:21,725 --> 00:38:25,165 Speaker 3: you too? When you walked in, yeah, that was not 713 00:38:25,325 --> 00:38:27,885 Speaker 3: strictly true. 714 00:38:27,285 --> 00:38:31,165 Speaker 5: No, I couldn't be more excited, like and. 715 00:38:31,485 --> 00:38:32,245 Speaker 4: About what. 716 00:38:34,085 --> 00:38:35,965 Speaker 1: Are you excited. 717 00:38:35,565 --> 00:38:36,925 Speaker 5: About having a baby? 718 00:38:38,525 --> 00:38:42,485 Speaker 2: But like the buns in the ovens and it's it's 719 00:38:42,605 --> 00:38:45,765 Speaker 2: kind of it's all that I've ever wanted in life, 720 00:38:45,885 --> 00:38:49,645 Speaker 2: and I can just see an endless future with Sarah 721 00:38:49,845 --> 00:38:54,205 Speaker 2: and us growing together and starting this beautiful family together. 722 00:38:54,885 --> 00:39:00,765 Speaker 3: Was this intentional int well, that was the pregnancy, do 723 00:39:00,765 --> 00:39:02,885 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Were you like, let's let's 724 00:39:02,925 --> 00:39:06,045 Speaker 3: make a baby or do happen? And it was it 725 00:39:06,125 --> 00:39:07,045 Speaker 3: a happy accident. 726 00:39:07,285 --> 00:39:10,925 Speaker 6: We've spoken about everything, and I think we spoke about 727 00:39:11,125 --> 00:39:14,925 Speaker 6: you know, obviously you mentioned age as well, and you know, 728 00:39:14,965 --> 00:39:18,645 Speaker 6: if we start this journey together in a relationship, and 729 00:39:18,845 --> 00:39:22,565 Speaker 6: you know we obviously Declan wants to build a family 730 00:39:22,605 --> 00:39:25,325 Speaker 6: and I, you know, I know how beautiful it is 731 00:39:25,325 --> 00:39:27,605 Speaker 6: having my son, and I've always wanted more children, and 732 00:39:27,885 --> 00:39:30,045 Speaker 6: we spoke about all aspects and you know. 733 00:39:30,045 --> 00:39:32,645 Speaker 5: I think from an early stage, yeah, and. 734 00:39:33,085 --> 00:39:34,685 Speaker 4: You know, it was really beautiful. 735 00:39:34,725 --> 00:39:37,165 Speaker 6: Like Declan also said, like, we spoke about the options 736 00:39:37,165 --> 00:39:40,645 Speaker 6: if I couldn't as well, and you know there was 737 00:39:40,685 --> 00:39:44,245 Speaker 6: both sides, so we we really did speak about everything, 738 00:39:44,325 --> 00:39:46,485 Speaker 6: and you know, we knew this is what we wanted. 739 00:39:46,565 --> 00:39:48,965 Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because your age difference is similar to 740 00:39:49,005 --> 00:39:51,045 Speaker 3: me and my husband, so I do believe. 741 00:39:51,485 --> 00:39:52,045 Speaker 5: I don't know. 742 00:39:52,325 --> 00:39:55,205 Speaker 3: For me, it's really kind of a non issue. But 743 00:39:55,245 --> 00:39:58,885 Speaker 3: when we first meet, we were in such different stages 744 00:39:58,925 --> 00:40:01,245 Speaker 3: of our life. I just started working in television and 745 00:40:01,525 --> 00:40:04,245 Speaker 3: he was working in a cafe and he was really 746 00:40:04,325 --> 00:40:05,405 Speaker 3: clucky at this. 747 00:40:05,765 --> 00:40:08,285 Speaker 4: He really sounds very simil. 748 00:40:09,525 --> 00:40:11,605 Speaker 3: And I was frond him in a vague yeah one 749 00:40:11,725 --> 00:40:13,725 Speaker 3: day and then now. 750 00:40:13,565 --> 00:40:15,365 Speaker 4: We've got four children, amazing. 751 00:40:15,605 --> 00:40:18,405 Speaker 3: But it was because there was a driver of us 752 00:40:19,005 --> 00:40:22,445 Speaker 3: and Peter was very similar to Declan in background as well, 753 00:40:22,485 --> 00:40:25,205 Speaker 3: really in that he was like, this is what life 754 00:40:25,285 --> 00:40:25,725 Speaker 3: is about. 755 00:40:25,925 --> 00:40:29,165 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's exactly what Declan says. And I believe 756 00:40:29,205 --> 00:40:31,965 Speaker 6: it as well. And you know, I think the you know, 757 00:40:32,205 --> 00:40:33,365 Speaker 6: family is everything. 758 00:40:33,405 --> 00:40:34,845 Speaker 1: And who did you tell first? 759 00:40:35,525 --> 00:40:36,805 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, who did me? 760 00:40:36,885 --> 00:40:38,125 Speaker 5: I think my mum? 761 00:40:38,205 --> 00:40:42,005 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And that was a big moment as well. 762 00:40:42,045 --> 00:40:45,285 Speaker 6: I think, you know, I think we have been so 763 00:40:45,365 --> 00:40:50,085 Speaker 6: overwhelmed with how how many beautiful messages from our family 764 00:40:50,125 --> 00:40:52,885 Speaker 6: and friends and how happy everyone is for us. But 765 00:40:53,005 --> 00:40:56,525 Speaker 6: it's like it's such a big thing and it's a lot, 766 00:40:56,885 --> 00:40:58,805 Speaker 6: you know, again like going back to the fact that, 767 00:40:59,245 --> 00:41:01,845 Speaker 6: like I'm sure you know, I'm a very close person. 768 00:41:01,845 --> 00:41:04,605 Speaker 6: I don't share a lot of my personal life and 769 00:41:04,605 --> 00:41:06,845 Speaker 6: and you know this is all new to us to 770 00:41:07,285 --> 00:41:09,685 Speaker 6: now be sharing it all, and there's so many people 771 00:41:09,765 --> 00:41:11,325 Speaker 6: to share, so. 772 00:41:11,205 --> 00:41:14,285 Speaker 3: Many people are invested in it, which is beautiful. And 773 00:41:14,325 --> 00:41:16,925 Speaker 3: also because the story of you two, I mean, you're 774 00:41:16,965 --> 00:41:22,765 Speaker 3: so Yin and Yang, You're so the the energy is 775 00:41:22,845 --> 00:41:24,565 Speaker 3: so male and so female. 776 00:41:24,725 --> 00:41:27,565 Speaker 1: It's so lady in the tramp, do you know what 777 00:41:27,565 --> 00:41:30,925 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, sharing that. 778 00:41:32,605 --> 00:41:37,885 Speaker 3: That beautiful thing that it's a very beautiful story that 779 00:41:38,005 --> 00:41:40,165 Speaker 3: a lot of people, like I said, are invested in. 780 00:41:40,845 --> 00:41:44,165 Speaker 2: I think neither of us expected that we'd come into 781 00:41:44,245 --> 00:41:48,605 Speaker 2: each other's lives. And it goes back to the part 782 00:41:48,645 --> 00:41:53,765 Speaker 2: where you know, we've created this friendship before even you know, 783 00:41:53,885 --> 00:41:56,445 Speaker 2: having a kiss or something. Ca Serah goes into an 784 00:41:56,485 --> 00:41:58,885 Speaker 2: elimination and then I'm like, ship, this could be the 785 00:41:58,965 --> 00:41:59,925 Speaker 2: last time I see her. 786 00:42:00,525 --> 00:42:02,045 Speaker 5: I just got to bite the bullet and do this. 787 00:42:02,085 --> 00:42:04,085 Speaker 2: And I'm walking in, I'm walking in, She's walking in 788 00:42:04,085 --> 00:42:07,165 Speaker 2: front of me, and I'm like, do this, let's do it, let's. 789 00:42:06,925 --> 00:42:09,005 Speaker 1: Do it, And what did you say? 790 00:42:09,085 --> 00:42:11,325 Speaker 2: And just tap her on the shoulder and I'm like, like, 791 00:42:11,525 --> 00:42:14,405 Speaker 2: we're walking in a group of twenty thirty and then 792 00:42:14,405 --> 00:42:18,525 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm like Sarah, I'm like I just 793 00:42:18,525 --> 00:42:20,005 Speaker 2: want to ask you, like, you know, in case you 794 00:42:20,005 --> 00:42:21,645 Speaker 2: get eliminated today, did you maybe want to go on 795 00:42:21,685 --> 00:42:22,245 Speaker 2: a date with me? 796 00:42:24,485 --> 00:42:26,845 Speaker 5: And then she just looks at me and she's like 797 00:42:27,605 --> 00:42:28,925 Speaker 5: she's like what. And I'm like, you want to go 798 00:42:28,965 --> 00:42:33,085 Speaker 5: on a date with me? And she's like you're an idiot? 799 00:42:33,245 --> 00:42:35,885 Speaker 5: Like you ready to go in for it? 800 00:42:36,325 --> 00:42:37,485 Speaker 1: Why was he an idiot? 801 00:42:37,845 --> 00:42:40,925 Speaker 6: Well, it was just like it's like thirty seconds before 802 00:42:40,965 --> 00:42:42,285 Speaker 6: I'm about to get eliminated. 803 00:42:42,325 --> 00:42:45,725 Speaker 1: I was like this, yeah, and that. 804 00:42:45,765 --> 00:42:49,085 Speaker 2: Was there's like people side by side, and once you 805 00:42:49,085 --> 00:42:51,605 Speaker 2: get eliminated, you're out the door, you pack your bags 806 00:42:51,765 --> 00:42:52,605 Speaker 2: and you go yeah. 807 00:42:52,445 --> 00:42:57,605 Speaker 1: And Sarah and you're taking Phoenix to school. This was yeah. 808 00:42:57,805 --> 00:42:58,045 Speaker 3: Good. 809 00:42:59,365 --> 00:43:02,405 Speaker 2: So this was you know, very early, and I'm like, 810 00:43:02,485 --> 00:43:05,565 Speaker 2: I can't skip on this opportunity. And I'm like I 811 00:43:06,045 --> 00:43:08,125 Speaker 2: always my whole life have told myself, do you just 812 00:43:08,165 --> 00:43:11,005 Speaker 2: need twenty seconds of curry with whatever it is you're doing, 813 00:43:11,045 --> 00:43:14,485 Speaker 2: whether it's applying for that job, quitting that job, you know, 814 00:43:14,645 --> 00:43:17,445 Speaker 2: asking someone on a day to Kis. So you know, 815 00:43:17,605 --> 00:43:19,725 Speaker 2: all it is is just shut out everything in your 816 00:43:19,765 --> 00:43:22,725 Speaker 2: life and just have twenty seconds of courage to do it. 817 00:43:23,565 --> 00:43:26,285 Speaker 5: And I had that twenty seconds of courage and she. 818 00:43:26,325 --> 00:43:30,205 Speaker 2: Left me, you know, yeah, and then I went back 819 00:43:30,245 --> 00:43:32,485 Speaker 2: that night because she didn't give me an answer, and 820 00:43:32,565 --> 00:43:34,245 Speaker 2: I was up all night and I was just laying 821 00:43:34,245 --> 00:43:37,045 Speaker 2: in bed staring at the roof, like laughing at myself, like, wow, 822 00:43:37,085 --> 00:43:40,085 Speaker 2: I just asked Sarah Sarah Todd on a date and 823 00:43:40,125 --> 00:43:41,325 Speaker 2: she laughed at me, got me. 824 00:43:41,805 --> 00:43:43,405 Speaker 5: And then it wasn't until. 825 00:43:43,165 --> 00:43:47,765 Speaker 3: Like uncomfortable like situation, And then how was that night 826 00:43:47,845 --> 00:43:48,205 Speaker 3: for you? 827 00:43:48,285 --> 00:43:49,445 Speaker 1: What was going for your mind? 828 00:43:49,485 --> 00:43:49,645 Speaker 2: Oh? 829 00:43:49,845 --> 00:43:53,365 Speaker 6: Like you know, I was still kind of yeah, I 830 00:43:53,405 --> 00:43:55,325 Speaker 6: was still like is that what he meant? 831 00:43:55,685 --> 00:43:58,005 Speaker 4: You know, I was kind of like, is it a date? 832 00:43:58,125 --> 00:43:58,325 Speaker 2: Date? 833 00:43:58,445 --> 00:43:58,685 Speaker 1: Yes? 834 00:43:58,765 --> 00:44:02,405 Speaker 6: He was like really okay, you know, because I feel like, 835 00:44:02,645 --> 00:44:05,485 Speaker 6: you know, we had become friends, but obviously, you know, 836 00:44:05,565 --> 00:44:08,165 Speaker 6: we had moments where I like, I was excited for 837 00:44:08,245 --> 00:44:11,285 Speaker 6: him to be there, you know, doing something, and he 838 00:44:11,325 --> 00:44:13,445 Speaker 6: walks in the room and you know, I knew that 839 00:44:13,445 --> 00:44:15,165 Speaker 6: the spark was there, so. 840 00:44:15,885 --> 00:44:17,765 Speaker 1: He knew that you had those feelings. 841 00:44:17,845 --> 00:44:21,725 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, it wasn't just a mate. Yeah, exactly. You know, 842 00:44:21,925 --> 00:44:24,725 Speaker 6: you don't know where that might go, or you know. 843 00:44:24,685 --> 00:44:26,965 Speaker 3: When did you get back to him? When did you 844 00:44:27,005 --> 00:44:28,045 Speaker 3: get back to the idiot? 845 00:44:30,845 --> 00:44:32,325 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly when, but. 846 00:44:33,605 --> 00:44:39,405 Speaker 5: Yeah, just two days later, vividly remember two days later. 847 00:44:39,605 --> 00:44:41,605 Speaker 2: But it was like, you know, I just I sent 848 00:44:41,645 --> 00:44:45,245 Speaker 2: her a message and I was like, I apologize, like 849 00:44:45,325 --> 00:44:47,885 Speaker 2: if it was very forward. She obviously didn't get eliminated, 850 00:44:47,925 --> 00:44:50,565 Speaker 2: and we had to spend you know, the next indefinitely 851 00:44:50,685 --> 00:44:53,485 Speaker 2: seeing each other, like I don't want to make you 852 00:44:53,525 --> 00:44:57,165 Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, and I hope you know, I just want 853 00:44:57,205 --> 00:45:00,445 Speaker 2: to remain your friend. I'm sorry if I was an idiot. 854 00:45:00,645 --> 00:45:03,565 Speaker 2: And then she come up to me and she's Sarah's 855 00:45:03,605 --> 00:45:05,765 Speaker 2: like she's like, oh, no, what you asked me the 856 00:45:05,765 --> 00:45:07,685 Speaker 2: other day? Like, yeah, I'd love to go on a 857 00:45:07,725 --> 00:45:09,325 Speaker 2: date with you. 858 00:45:09,485 --> 00:45:10,445 Speaker 5: And then and then you. 859 00:45:10,405 --> 00:45:13,845 Speaker 1: Had to plan a date, yeah, which was so. 860 00:45:13,885 --> 00:45:16,165 Speaker 2: I drove my car down from Sydney to be on 861 00:45:16,205 --> 00:45:18,525 Speaker 2: the show and packed it with all my knickknacks and 862 00:45:18,565 --> 00:45:21,645 Speaker 2: my books and my posters and made my room feel 863 00:45:21,765 --> 00:45:24,085 Speaker 2: like a home, not wanting to live out of a 864 00:45:24,085 --> 00:45:25,485 Speaker 2: suitcase for six months. 865 00:45:25,565 --> 00:45:28,565 Speaker 5: And then so I had my car and I was 866 00:45:28,765 --> 00:45:29,125 Speaker 5: had a. 867 00:45:29,085 --> 00:45:32,925 Speaker 2: Weekend booked in at the Grampians, and then so I'm like, oh, 868 00:45:33,565 --> 00:45:38,325 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to the Grampians this weekend. Do you 869 00:45:38,365 --> 00:45:40,205 Speaker 2: want to jump in the car and just come for 870 00:45:40,245 --> 00:45:42,765 Speaker 2: the ride? And then and then we went away for 871 00:45:42,805 --> 00:45:45,405 Speaker 2: two nights and stayed in the lodge in the middle 872 00:45:45,405 --> 00:45:46,325 Speaker 2: of the Grampis. 873 00:45:48,085 --> 00:45:50,285 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then it was history from there. 874 00:45:50,445 --> 00:45:53,685 Speaker 3: Okay, So you you've shared with us that you're expecting 875 00:45:53,685 --> 00:45:54,205 Speaker 3: a baby. 876 00:45:54,365 --> 00:46:01,245 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the moment when you did? You obviously, first. 877 00:46:03,405 --> 00:46:05,445 Speaker 2: You're the one trying to squeeze into it dress and 878 00:46:05,605 --> 00:46:08,085 Speaker 2: bloody boobs first. 879 00:46:07,845 --> 00:46:11,525 Speaker 6: Of all, bos so before you did a teaste, Yeah, 880 00:46:11,565 --> 00:46:13,845 Speaker 6: my boobs grew. But I had to go over for 881 00:46:13,925 --> 00:46:17,125 Speaker 6: a trip, a work trip to India, and then we 882 00:46:17,125 --> 00:46:20,685 Speaker 6: were meeting in cans for like a trip at the 883 00:46:20,765 --> 00:46:25,965 Speaker 6: end of my India trip, and I'm going through customs 884 00:46:26,005 --> 00:46:30,045 Speaker 6: in the airport and out of nowhere, I just vomit 885 00:46:30,125 --> 00:46:32,365 Speaker 6: in a binh. 886 00:46:34,965 --> 00:46:37,365 Speaker 1: Like, is this coviding? 887 00:46:38,565 --> 00:46:41,565 Speaker 6: And so that was kind of yeah, the moment where 888 00:46:41,685 --> 00:46:43,845 Speaker 6: I was like, oh gosh, I just vomited in a bin. 889 00:46:44,045 --> 00:46:44,965 Speaker 1: So at this point you. 890 00:46:44,925 --> 00:46:49,405 Speaker 2: Were coming back to cans I was there waiting up 891 00:46:49,445 --> 00:46:53,405 Speaker 2: in cans, and I'm like, I'll go to the pharmacy. 892 00:46:53,445 --> 00:46:55,365 Speaker 2: I'll buy one of those bloody tests and. 893 00:46:55,805 --> 00:46:58,045 Speaker 6: Really fancy one with like the weeks on it and 894 00:46:58,085 --> 00:47:00,725 Speaker 6: everything up the toilet. 895 00:47:01,005 --> 00:47:08,965 Speaker 5: And then she comes out of that at the yeah, pregnant, 896 00:47:09,565 --> 00:47:10,205 Speaker 5: holy ship. 897 00:47:10,285 --> 00:47:12,405 Speaker 2: Well would you jump on the water skis because we're 898 00:47:12,445 --> 00:47:13,925 Speaker 2: meant to go water yeah? 899 00:47:14,685 --> 00:47:14,925 Speaker 1: Yeah. 900 00:47:15,085 --> 00:47:17,165 Speaker 4: And we're there with friends like Rhianna and everything. 901 00:47:17,245 --> 00:47:19,285 Speaker 6: We've just figured out this news and we've gone there 902 00:47:19,285 --> 00:47:20,725 Speaker 6: to go waterskiing. 903 00:47:20,685 --> 00:47:23,805 Speaker 4: Right, and so I go straight on the water. 904 00:47:23,605 --> 00:47:26,765 Speaker 6: Ski and then it like I fall back and it 905 00:47:26,965 --> 00:47:29,765 Speaker 6: just scrapes all the way in between my legs. 906 00:47:29,405 --> 00:47:30,405 Speaker 4: And I've got these. 907 00:47:30,285 --> 00:47:32,925 Speaker 6: Gigantic like dashes. 908 00:47:32,405 --> 00:47:33,725 Speaker 5: On my Maybe we shouldn't do that. 909 00:47:33,845 --> 00:47:35,645 Speaker 4: Yeah, just hold off on this now. 910 00:47:36,085 --> 00:47:38,325 Speaker 1: Wow? And then when did you share? Did you share 911 00:47:38,365 --> 00:47:39,285 Speaker 1: it with them on that trip? 912 00:47:40,445 --> 00:47:44,125 Speaker 5: I kept it. It was really between family, you know. 913 00:47:44,525 --> 00:47:46,525 Speaker 4: A little was one of the first people we told. 914 00:47:48,285 --> 00:47:51,165 Speaker 1: How was she so excited? 915 00:47:51,685 --> 00:47:53,045 Speaker 5: Everyone, it's so beautiful. 916 00:47:53,045 --> 00:47:56,045 Speaker 2: Everyone's been so excited and it's been such a nice response, 917 00:47:56,085 --> 00:47:59,485 Speaker 2: and I'm so excited for all the little moments, you know, 918 00:47:59,565 --> 00:48:02,005 Speaker 2: the late night feeds, you know, getting up with sair 919 00:48:02,125 --> 00:48:02,725 Speaker 2: even now. 920 00:48:02,845 --> 00:48:05,685 Speaker 4: The leg eggs and all of that started. I slipped 921 00:48:05,685 --> 00:48:09,525 Speaker 4: about two hours last night as well. The sleepless I 922 00:48:09,685 --> 00:48:10,085 Speaker 4: just kicked. 923 00:48:10,765 --> 00:48:16,485 Speaker 3: That's so cruel, it's so so weird. And that's nature preparing. 924 00:48:17,805 --> 00:48:20,205 Speaker 3: Why can't nature prepare? 925 00:48:20,245 --> 00:48:22,005 Speaker 1: Yeah, getting good sleep? 926 00:48:22,285 --> 00:48:25,285 Speaker 5: Yeah, so no, it's I'm so excited for it all. 927 00:48:27,245 --> 00:48:27,845 Speaker 1: Coming up. 928 00:48:28,325 --> 00:48:31,525 Speaker 3: Sarah and Declan reveal how they went from Master Chef 929 00:48:31,685 --> 00:48:40,005 Speaker 3: rivals to building a family together and so like, geographically 930 00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:44,805 Speaker 3: now you're going to be a family, where are you 931 00:48:44,885 --> 00:48:46,485 Speaker 3: going to be based to Melbourne? 932 00:48:46,765 --> 00:48:46,885 Speaker 7: Right? 933 00:48:47,045 --> 00:48:51,845 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're bayside and yeah we've got a bigger 934 00:48:51,845 --> 00:48:54,685 Speaker 6: house now and everyone settled in. 935 00:48:55,165 --> 00:48:57,965 Speaker 2: But every every day honestly just feels like a dream 936 00:48:58,325 --> 00:48:59,645 Speaker 2: and a dream come true. 937 00:48:59,805 --> 00:49:01,765 Speaker 5: Like it's so it's so special. 938 00:49:01,765 --> 00:49:05,405 Speaker 2: We've got you know, we we bit the bullet and 939 00:49:05,445 --> 00:49:07,565 Speaker 2: got a bigger house together. And you know, I moved 940 00:49:07,565 --> 00:49:10,885 Speaker 2: from Sydney to Melbourne and is in school in Melbourne. 941 00:49:10,965 --> 00:49:14,805 Speaker 2: So I'm prepared to stay here for you know, until 942 00:49:14,805 --> 00:49:18,445 Speaker 2: he finishes his school certificate, but you know, I'd love 943 00:49:18,525 --> 00:49:22,285 Speaker 2: to love to move eventually. And you know then now 944 00:49:22,285 --> 00:49:25,285 Speaker 2: I've got another little one on the way, like I think, 945 00:49:25,365 --> 00:49:29,125 Speaker 2: you know, having them experience the rest of the world 946 00:49:29,245 --> 00:49:33,325 Speaker 2: or the rest of the country. It's the opportunities are endless. 947 00:49:33,325 --> 00:49:36,725 Speaker 2: But we're both also open to change, which is really nice. 948 00:49:36,725 --> 00:49:38,885 Speaker 2: And this is obviously the biggest change in both our 949 00:49:38,925 --> 00:49:41,565 Speaker 2: life is trying to merge our families together. 950 00:49:42,045 --> 00:49:45,045 Speaker 6: And people think our lifestyle is crazy, but we're very 951 00:49:45,045 --> 00:49:46,725 Speaker 6: similar and we love it and I. 952 00:49:46,645 --> 00:49:47,805 Speaker 4: Think it's so nice. 953 00:49:48,045 --> 00:49:51,845 Speaker 6: We both love the small things in life. Yeah, those 954 00:49:51,925 --> 00:49:55,645 Speaker 6: little in between moments, and I feel like it's, yeah, 955 00:49:55,645 --> 00:49:58,725 Speaker 6: we've we're very like minded in that sense. So we 956 00:49:58,765 --> 00:50:02,445 Speaker 6: can do totally different holidays if it's a campavan or 957 00:50:02,765 --> 00:50:06,485 Speaker 6: something like that. You know, it's it's been really special 958 00:50:06,525 --> 00:50:10,285 Speaker 6: and I think, yeah, we've had a really fun jam 959 00:50:10,365 --> 00:50:10,805 Speaker 6: packed ye. 960 00:50:11,205 --> 00:50:14,005 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you've got a massive project coming up. 961 00:50:14,125 --> 00:50:17,245 Speaker 3: How far off, by the way, roughly when it wins 962 00:50:17,285 --> 00:50:18,525 Speaker 3: your baby. 963 00:50:20,925 --> 00:50:22,965 Speaker 1: A summer a summer baby. 964 00:50:22,725 --> 00:50:25,725 Speaker 6: Yeah, around around the end of the year, right around 965 00:50:25,845 --> 00:50:27,125 Speaker 6: like early early next year. 966 00:50:27,285 --> 00:50:32,085 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, And so what have you envisaged what 967 00:50:33,045 --> 00:50:35,965 Speaker 3: you know, what you'll be like when you're hunkered down 968 00:50:36,045 --> 00:50:38,405 Speaker 3: for that or is are you going to hit the 969 00:50:38,525 --> 00:50:41,765 Speaker 3: road with with the with the whole circus. 970 00:50:42,885 --> 00:50:46,725 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for us, we we definitely like I'm 971 00:50:46,965 --> 00:50:50,525 Speaker 6: a person that trusts my intuition and I'm not going 972 00:50:50,565 --> 00:50:53,005 Speaker 6: to set anything in stone in terms of what we're 973 00:50:53,045 --> 00:50:54,885 Speaker 6: going to do. Who knows what it might look like 974 00:50:55,445 --> 00:50:58,045 Speaker 6: at that moment. So I think we're both open to 975 00:50:58,685 --> 00:51:03,085 Speaker 6: whatever might come our way. But in saying that, you know, 976 00:51:03,325 --> 00:51:06,965 Speaker 6: we we obviously have, you know, different things that we 977 00:51:07,045 --> 00:51:10,805 Speaker 6: want to do and what we think and prefer, yeah, professionally, 978 00:51:11,605 --> 00:51:14,485 Speaker 6: what we would like to kind of get back into 979 00:51:14,565 --> 00:51:17,485 Speaker 6: and you know, worked out in a way that you know, 980 00:51:17,485 --> 00:51:20,805 Speaker 6: if it's Decklan's work, that we all go together and 981 00:51:20,845 --> 00:51:23,645 Speaker 6: he does his work or vice versa, so to manage 982 00:51:23,645 --> 00:51:25,525 Speaker 6: it in that way that we'll be doing it as 983 00:51:25,565 --> 00:51:26,085 Speaker 6: a family. 984 00:51:26,165 --> 00:51:28,805 Speaker 3: And how has the pregnancy been, by the way, because 985 00:51:29,445 --> 00:51:33,405 Speaker 3: the experience, so it's fourteen years ago, Yeah, how is 986 00:51:33,445 --> 00:51:34,085 Speaker 3: it this time? 987 00:51:34,165 --> 00:51:34,605 Speaker 1: Oh? 988 00:51:34,645 --> 00:51:35,685 Speaker 4: Definitely different. 989 00:51:35,965 --> 00:51:41,445 Speaker 6: I think I was we were driving below the Eiffel 990 00:51:41,525 --> 00:51:42,645 Speaker 6: Tower and I'm puking in. 991 00:51:42,605 --> 00:51:47,245 Speaker 4: The gutter in all sorts of places. 992 00:51:47,325 --> 00:51:50,405 Speaker 6: So I've definitely got a lot of mourning sickness this time. 993 00:51:51,085 --> 00:51:57,125 Speaker 6: And yeah, like just different, Like it's definitely Also I 994 00:51:57,125 --> 00:52:00,245 Speaker 6: feel like you probably know this after the first baby. 995 00:52:00,245 --> 00:52:02,685 Speaker 6: You only remember the good stuff. I don't remember any well, 996 00:52:02,725 --> 00:52:03,645 Speaker 6: otherwise no one would. 997 00:52:03,845 --> 00:52:05,285 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 998 00:52:05,485 --> 00:52:09,485 Speaker 3: So it's a remarkable thing about the human psyche. It's 999 00:52:09,485 --> 00:52:12,205 Speaker 3: a really brilliant thing that we only remember the book. 1000 00:52:12,285 --> 00:52:13,845 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think back I was like, oh, I 1001 00:52:13,885 --> 00:52:15,005 Speaker 6: had a beautiful pregnancy. 1002 00:52:15,085 --> 00:52:15,325 Speaker 1: Nothing. 1003 00:52:15,685 --> 00:52:18,365 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe it did, I just can't remember now. 1004 00:52:18,485 --> 00:52:21,645 Speaker 6: So there's definitely been ups and downs with how I've 1005 00:52:21,645 --> 00:52:24,525 Speaker 6: been feeling. But I, you know, just surrender my body 1006 00:52:24,565 --> 00:52:28,445 Speaker 6: to it and whatever happens and needs to happen. I 1007 00:52:28,485 --> 00:52:30,685 Speaker 6: know my body will kick in and do what it 1008 00:52:30,725 --> 00:52:33,045 Speaker 6: has to. So just letting that happen. 1009 00:52:32,845 --> 00:52:34,485 Speaker 5: And doing such a good job. 1010 00:52:35,005 --> 00:52:37,325 Speaker 1: And what are you thinking about being a dad? 1011 00:52:37,885 --> 00:52:43,885 Speaker 2: I'm so excited, especially, you know, being a parent with Sarah. 1012 00:52:44,005 --> 00:52:48,925 Speaker 2: I think it's I've never envisioned it to be like this, 1013 00:52:49,125 --> 00:52:51,965 Speaker 2: and it is. It's all I've kind of ever wanted. 1014 00:52:52,165 --> 00:52:55,285 Speaker 2: And this baby is already coming into a house that's 1015 00:52:55,325 --> 00:52:56,205 Speaker 2: so full of love. 1016 00:52:56,485 --> 00:52:57,485 Speaker 4: There's so much love. 1017 00:52:58,005 --> 00:52:58,205 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1018 00:52:59,205 --> 00:53:01,805 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like Sarah is already such a 1019 00:53:01,805 --> 00:53:05,925 Speaker 2: great parent, and she's it's only going to become a 1020 00:53:05,925 --> 00:53:08,885 Speaker 2: better parent day by day. But I think, you know, 1021 00:53:08,925 --> 00:53:12,165 Speaker 2: I look at things that I put my parents through 1022 00:53:12,165 --> 00:53:14,205 Speaker 2: and it makes me a little bit nervous of you. 1023 00:53:14,205 --> 00:53:17,005 Speaker 1: Know what, it's not straight. 1024 00:53:17,285 --> 00:53:20,365 Speaker 5: No, I'm so. 1025 00:53:20,325 --> 00:53:23,645 Speaker 2: Excited for you know, just like having a little baby 1026 00:53:23,685 --> 00:53:27,165 Speaker 2: in my arm and you know, being being able. I 1027 00:53:27,165 --> 00:53:29,205 Speaker 2: think Sarah is a bit a bit nervous she's not 1028 00:53:29,245 --> 00:53:35,285 Speaker 2: going to get enough time. Yeah, it's it's so beautiful 1029 00:53:35,325 --> 00:53:37,685 Speaker 2: and I couldn't imagine doing it with anyone else other 1030 00:53:37,685 --> 00:53:38,205 Speaker 2: than Sarah. 1031 00:53:38,245 --> 00:53:40,325 Speaker 1: And I just who was the first person that said 1032 00:53:40,365 --> 00:53:46,525 Speaker 1: I love you? Have you not said it every day? 1033 00:53:46,485 --> 00:53:49,605 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I went with that moment that. 1034 00:53:49,725 --> 00:53:55,845 Speaker 2: Was Sarah went were laying in bed and and she's like, 1035 00:53:55,925 --> 00:53:58,245 Speaker 2: I love you, and I'm like it hit me and 1036 00:53:58,365 --> 00:54:04,565 Speaker 2: it's like I just say you idiot, but I just said, 1037 00:54:04,605 --> 00:54:06,765 Speaker 2: I'm like it's I don't want you to say this, 1038 00:54:06,845 --> 00:54:10,485 Speaker 2: and it's like it's got a lot of power. Mind it, 1039 00:54:09,965 --> 00:54:13,005 Speaker 2: and Cheese like you're an idiot. I love you And 1040 00:54:13,085 --> 00:54:16,165 Speaker 2: I'm like I love you too. And you know, we 1041 00:54:16,165 --> 00:54:18,365 Speaker 2: we say it, you know, all day every day to 1042 00:54:18,405 --> 00:54:20,885 Speaker 2: each other, and we just remind each other like, you know, 1043 00:54:21,805 --> 00:54:24,045 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how many times I say I love 1044 00:54:24,085 --> 00:54:27,245 Speaker 2: you or how many times I say you beautiful, I 1045 00:54:27,285 --> 00:54:30,005 Speaker 2: always will mean it, Like I never want it to 1046 00:54:30,085 --> 00:54:33,285 Speaker 2: just become something you say out of habit. I want 1047 00:54:33,325 --> 00:54:35,445 Speaker 2: you to know that every time I look at you 1048 00:54:35,485 --> 00:54:37,965 Speaker 2: and I say you're gordgeous, you're beautiful, I love you. 1049 00:54:38,085 --> 00:54:39,525 Speaker 2: I mean it from the bottom of my heart. 1050 00:54:40,685 --> 00:54:43,645 Speaker 6: And I think it's you know, for me, obviously the 1051 00:54:43,685 --> 00:54:47,325 Speaker 6: words mean a huge amount, but it's mostly actions for. 1052 00:54:47,325 --> 00:54:48,885 Speaker 4: Me and feeling it. 1053 00:54:48,965 --> 00:54:51,405 Speaker 6: And I feel it, and I feel that love in 1054 00:54:51,445 --> 00:54:53,565 Speaker 6: our house and from Declan, and. 1055 00:54:53,845 --> 00:54:55,605 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's really beautiful. 1056 00:54:56,245 --> 00:55:02,605 Speaker 3: How extraordinary that both of you went looking for something 1057 00:55:03,325 --> 00:55:07,525 Speaker 3: and ended up with something completely different and yet exactly 1058 00:55:07,565 --> 00:55:08,605 Speaker 3: what was meant for you. 1059 00:55:08,805 --> 00:55:09,045 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1060 00:55:09,325 --> 00:55:12,485 Speaker 2: I think it's just a reminder, you know, to everyone, 1061 00:55:12,605 --> 00:55:16,085 Speaker 2: you can't put yourself on time limits, or you can't 1062 00:55:16,165 --> 00:55:18,445 Speaker 2: tell yourself you have to do this by this age 1063 00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:18,925 Speaker 2: or have. 1064 00:55:18,925 --> 00:55:21,005 Speaker 5: This accomplished in your life by now. 1065 00:55:21,405 --> 00:55:24,365 Speaker 2: I think just like everyone needs to chill out a 1066 00:55:24,365 --> 00:55:27,765 Speaker 2: bit and just enjoy the little things, because you know, 1067 00:55:27,805 --> 00:55:33,685 Speaker 2: we've all lost friends, we've all lost family, we've all experienced. 1068 00:55:33,085 --> 00:55:34,405 Speaker 1: You know, times are tough. 1069 00:55:34,565 --> 00:55:37,285 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like what, you can't wake up every 1070 00:55:37,405 --> 00:55:39,045 Speaker 2: day and be moaning and groaning. 1071 00:55:39,085 --> 00:55:42,045 Speaker 5: You need to wake up every day and just be. 1072 00:55:42,005 --> 00:55:44,005 Speaker 2: Grateful that you know, our feed are on the floor, 1073 00:55:44,405 --> 00:55:47,565 Speaker 2: we've got roof over our head hopefully, and food on 1074 00:55:47,605 --> 00:55:51,245 Speaker 2: the table. And I think, you know, we're both very 1075 00:55:51,485 --> 00:55:55,405 Speaker 2: driven with our work ethics, and you know, there'll never 1076 00:55:55,445 --> 00:55:59,085 Speaker 2: be a moment where I wouldn't provide that for my family. 1077 00:55:59,525 --> 00:56:02,325 Speaker 1: I love it. You just such a delight. I'm very 1078 00:56:02,365 --> 00:56:03,645 Speaker 1: happy for your happiness. 1079 00:56:03,725 --> 00:56:04,325 Speaker 5: Thank you to you. 1080 00:56:05,005 --> 00:56:08,485 Speaker 3: So do you disagree on things? Oh, definitely, of course, 1081 00:56:09,445 --> 00:56:11,605 Speaker 3: like micro macro. 1082 00:56:11,925 --> 00:56:14,005 Speaker 6: Oh, it could be everything. You know, We've got a 1083 00:56:14,045 --> 00:56:17,245 Speaker 6: lot kind of going on. But yeah, Declin is a 1084 00:56:17,245 --> 00:56:23,085 Speaker 6: good communicator, and I think that I'm a very probably 1085 00:56:23,405 --> 00:56:27,125 Speaker 6: I don't know, quite diplomatic. I suppose I like to 1086 00:56:27,165 --> 00:56:30,365 Speaker 6: look at all situations and sides of the story, and 1087 00:56:30,405 --> 00:56:31,285 Speaker 6: I think we just talk. 1088 00:56:31,525 --> 00:56:32,365 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're just talking. 1089 00:56:32,445 --> 00:56:37,445 Speaker 2: I think communication is key and and and well that's it. 1090 00:56:37,445 --> 00:56:40,725 Speaker 3: It's interesting watching you two. Neither of you really seem 1091 00:56:40,765 --> 00:56:45,085 Speaker 3: to have a temper. Yeah, that's interesting because some people 1092 00:56:45,125 --> 00:56:47,445 Speaker 3: are very reactive. 1093 00:56:48,325 --> 00:56:50,165 Speaker 1: But yeah, both of you seem to be quite sort 1094 00:56:50,205 --> 00:56:50,845 Speaker 1: of considered. 1095 00:56:51,205 --> 00:56:51,525 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1096 00:56:51,605 --> 00:56:55,525 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've like since becoming a man, like 1097 00:56:55,605 --> 00:56:59,525 Speaker 2: I used to be very angry person and a very 1098 00:57:00,525 --> 00:57:04,525 Speaker 2: rattled young man, and I've put so much effort into 1099 00:57:05,205 --> 00:57:06,805 Speaker 2: becoming the man I am today. 1100 00:57:07,005 --> 00:57:09,285 Speaker 5: I've certainly had to, you know practice. 1101 00:57:09,325 --> 00:57:11,685 Speaker 1: Do you think that anger was to do with the family, 1102 00:57:11,885 --> 00:57:12,645 Speaker 1: and that the. 1103 00:57:13,365 --> 00:57:16,205 Speaker 2: Definitely I think, you know, as a as a young 1104 00:57:16,325 --> 00:57:19,525 Speaker 2: hormonal fourteen year old boy, thirteen year old boy that 1105 00:57:19,565 --> 00:57:21,845 Speaker 2: I was when I went through that, you know, could 1106 00:57:21,925 --> 00:57:26,005 Speaker 2: jumping back and forth from homes and you know, having 1107 00:57:26,045 --> 00:57:28,405 Speaker 2: one parent say one thing about the other and just 1108 00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:31,005 Speaker 2: being a middleman at that age, Like I think, you know, 1109 00:57:31,205 --> 00:57:32,725 Speaker 2: having sisters you wanted to. 1110 00:57:32,685 --> 00:57:35,205 Speaker 5: Look after, and I think all of it. 1111 00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:37,725 Speaker 2: But I think, you know, I've really put so much 1112 00:57:37,765 --> 00:57:44,925 Speaker 2: effort into self development and you know, physical emotional empathy, 1113 00:57:45,045 --> 00:57:47,725 Speaker 2: and you know, Mum always just instilled that in me, 1114 00:57:47,925 --> 00:57:50,765 Speaker 2: like you know, look up empathy, look up humility, and 1115 00:57:51,165 --> 00:57:53,245 Speaker 2: that's what I'll be saying to you know, my kids 1116 00:57:53,525 --> 00:57:54,485 Speaker 2: in the future. 1117 00:57:54,525 --> 00:57:57,565 Speaker 5: And you know what gets thrown around the house is. 1118 00:57:57,565 --> 00:57:59,965 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was probably the opposite. 1119 00:58:00,005 --> 00:58:02,925 Speaker 6: I was very quiet, bottle it all up and deal 1120 00:58:02,965 --> 00:58:05,445 Speaker 6: with it myself and find a way to kind of 1121 00:58:05,925 --> 00:58:09,125 Speaker 6: figure things out. And I guess I realized that that's 1122 00:58:09,165 --> 00:58:10,725 Speaker 6: not a good way to be. You need to just 1123 00:58:10,805 --> 00:58:14,645 Speaker 6: hit problems head on, sort it out, communicate, you know, 1124 00:58:14,765 --> 00:58:17,445 Speaker 6: if one of us is feeling a little bit you know, 1125 00:58:17,565 --> 00:58:19,965 Speaker 6: maybe hurt or you know, you don't want to say 1126 00:58:19,965 --> 00:58:23,245 Speaker 6: something in frustration and anger that you can't take back. 1127 00:58:23,685 --> 00:58:26,685 Speaker 6: So I'm always the one to kind of say, you know, well, 1128 00:58:26,765 --> 00:58:29,125 Speaker 6: let's take a breath and have a think about what 1129 00:58:29,165 --> 00:58:31,045 Speaker 6: we really want to say to each other and what we. 1130 00:58:31,125 --> 00:58:34,685 Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, and then talk about it and you know, 1131 00:58:34,925 --> 00:58:35,965 Speaker 4: get to the bottom of it. 1132 00:58:36,085 --> 00:58:39,965 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, living together, holidaying together, doing 1133 00:58:40,045 --> 00:58:43,885 Speaker 2: business together, and there's certainly big things to come in 1134 00:58:44,285 --> 00:58:47,365 Speaker 2: the future, you know, outside of our personal life, going 1135 00:58:47,405 --> 00:58:50,005 Speaker 2: into work and stuff like that. Like, I think you're 1136 00:58:50,045 --> 00:58:52,565 Speaker 2: always going to come across hurdles and it's just how 1137 00:58:52,605 --> 00:58:53,165 Speaker 2: you deal with it. 1138 00:58:53,165 --> 00:58:55,925 Speaker 5: And there's there's no point in being. 1139 00:58:55,845 --> 00:58:58,645 Speaker 2: Speaking from anger or speaking from a place of hurt 1140 00:58:58,765 --> 00:58:59,685 Speaker 2: or anything like that. 1141 00:59:00,605 --> 00:59:03,205 Speaker 6: And I think life has very high eighths and very 1142 00:59:03,205 --> 00:59:06,485 Speaker 6: low lows, and it's okay to feel really really low. 1143 00:59:07,005 --> 00:59:09,325 Speaker 6: And I think, you know, we don't force each other 1144 00:59:09,485 --> 00:59:10,925 Speaker 6: to instantly just be happy. 1145 00:59:11,165 --> 00:59:12,405 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big thing. 1146 00:59:12,645 --> 00:59:16,045 Speaker 3: And also I think in relationships, I mean, everyone's good 1147 00:59:16,045 --> 00:59:20,205 Speaker 3: when it's good times. Yeah, it's how you navigate the 1148 00:59:20,245 --> 00:59:24,285 Speaker 3: bag exactly. And when there's a challenge how you rise 1149 00:59:24,405 --> 00:59:25,765 Speaker 3: to meet the other person and you. 1150 00:59:25,805 --> 00:59:26,685 Speaker 4: Have to deal with it. 1151 00:59:26,805 --> 00:59:29,645 Speaker 6: You can't just you know, fight it out, or you 1152 00:59:29,685 --> 00:59:31,685 Speaker 6: can't just push it under the rug. You have to 1153 00:59:31,725 --> 00:59:34,765 Speaker 6: feel low, you have to feel frustrated, work on it, 1154 00:59:34,925 --> 00:59:37,365 Speaker 6: see what the problem is, and find a way out 1155 00:59:37,445 --> 00:59:37,685 Speaker 6: of it. 1156 00:59:37,965 --> 00:59:39,725 Speaker 4: And that makes you take time. 1157 00:59:40,125 --> 00:59:42,805 Speaker 6: But I think we both also have really spoken about 1158 00:59:42,845 --> 00:59:45,125 Speaker 6: that a lot, that we want to work through the 1159 00:59:45,165 --> 00:59:45,805 Speaker 6: hard times. 1160 00:59:45,965 --> 00:59:47,845 Speaker 4: We don't want to run away when it's difficult. 1161 00:59:47,965 --> 00:59:50,805 Speaker 6: We want to make sure that we both understand that 1162 00:59:50,925 --> 00:59:55,005 Speaker 6: relationships take work and that we will hit hurdles and 1163 00:59:55,045 --> 00:59:58,005 Speaker 6: that will be you know, days where things happen that 1164 00:59:58,645 --> 01:00:02,005 Speaker 6: you know, are really hard to cope with, and we're 1165 01:00:03,085 --> 01:00:04,805 Speaker 6: going to try our best to just hit it head 1166 01:00:04,845 --> 01:00:05,885 Speaker 6: on and figure it out. 1167 01:00:06,165 --> 01:00:07,085 Speaker 5: So many good days. 1168 01:00:07,205 --> 01:00:09,645 Speaker 2: I think you know why I'm so attracted that to 1169 01:00:09,685 --> 01:00:12,005 Speaker 2: Sarah is her ethos on life and it and it 1170 01:00:12,045 --> 01:00:13,165 Speaker 2: resonates with mine. 1171 01:00:13,245 --> 01:00:16,525 Speaker 5: And and yes, I can't wait to spend the rest 1172 01:00:16,565 --> 01:00:17,325 Speaker 5: of my life ford. 1173 01:00:18,525 --> 01:00:19,045 Speaker 4: Back at you. 1174 01:00:19,285 --> 01:00:25,765 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably people saying all there's probably people throwing up, but. 1175 01:00:25,845 --> 01:00:30,205 Speaker 1: You know, everyone loves love. 1176 01:00:30,445 --> 01:00:34,605 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've both been just so exquisite to. 1177 01:00:37,085 --> 01:00:37,485 Speaker 1: Witness. 1178 01:00:38,205 --> 01:00:38,725 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1179 01:00:39,005 --> 01:00:43,645 Speaker 2: We appreciate it, and we appreciate the support from you know, 1180 01:00:43,765 --> 01:00:44,405 Speaker 2: our following. 1181 01:00:44,445 --> 01:00:45,645 Speaker 5: I think it's so beautiful. 1182 01:00:45,725 --> 01:00:50,045 Speaker 2: But we've both lived very interesting lives and and and 1183 01:00:50,125 --> 01:00:52,645 Speaker 2: here we are. We've found each other and and we're 1184 01:00:52,645 --> 01:00:56,525 Speaker 2: creating a family together, and it's it's a beautiful period 1185 01:00:56,565 --> 01:00:57,205 Speaker 2: of our life. 1186 01:00:58,245 --> 01:01:01,445 Speaker 1: Congratulations. I can't wait to see. 1187 01:01:01,845 --> 01:01:02,805 Speaker 4: We're so excited. 1188 01:01:02,885 --> 01:01:03,485 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1189 01:01:05,605 --> 01:01:11,045 Speaker 3: So that was Sarah Todd and Decklan Cleary, two people 1190 01:01:11,085 --> 01:01:13,925 Speaker 3: who thought they were signing up for a cooking competition 1191 01:01:14,605 --> 01:01:18,925 Speaker 3: and ended up finding a whole new life together, from 1192 01:01:18,925 --> 01:01:22,165 Speaker 3: the Master Chef kitchen to a blended family and now 1193 01:01:22,205 --> 01:01:25,685 Speaker 3: with a baby on the way. It's clear that for 1194 01:01:25,845 --> 01:01:30,045 Speaker 3: Sarah and Declan, timing really was everything. 1195 01:01:30,805 --> 01:01:31,965 Speaker 1: And it's so. 1196 01:01:32,125 --> 01:01:36,925 Speaker 3: Lovely to feel nothing but happiness for other people whose 1197 01:01:36,965 --> 01:01:40,725 Speaker 3: happiness is infectious. Thank you so much for listening to 1198 01:01:40,765 --> 01:01:44,645 Speaker 3: No Filter. The executive producer of No Filter is Nama Brown. 1199 01:01:45,045 --> 01:01:48,645 Speaker 3: The senior producer is Breed Player. Audio production is by 1200 01:01:48,725 --> 01:01:52,125 Speaker 3: Jacob Brown and video editing is by Josh Green. 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