1 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:16,184 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:16,224 --> 00:00:20,704 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast is recorded. 3 00:00:20,264 --> 00:00:26,064 Speaker 2: On From Mamma Mia. 4 00:00:26,304 --> 00:00:29,344 Speaker 3: Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop culture fix. 5 00:00:29,624 --> 00:00:34,144 Speaker 4: I'm em Vernon, I'm Kelly mccaren and clearly Laura is away. 6 00:00:34,184 --> 00:00:36,824 Speaker 4: She's stuck in Queensland and looks simply thrilled to have 7 00:00:36,864 --> 00:00:37,944 Speaker 4: to drive the episode. 8 00:00:38,064 --> 00:00:39,984 Speaker 3: I am very, very excited because we haven't done an 9 00:00:39,984 --> 00:00:42,304 Speaker 3: episode together, have we not for the Spill. 10 00:00:42,504 --> 00:00:44,344 Speaker 1: I don't think so, no time recently. 11 00:00:44,384 --> 00:00:46,504 Speaker 3: Anyway, I look at us back together again. 12 00:00:46,584 --> 00:00:49,144 Speaker 1: I'm together on the show. 13 00:00:49,184 --> 00:00:51,544 Speaker 3: Today we are talking about everything you need to know 14 00:00:51,624 --> 00:00:55,584 Speaker 3: about Coachella Weekend too, it's finally over. 15 00:00:55,424 --> 00:00:57,624 Speaker 2: Thank going for a month plus. 16 00:00:57,704 --> 00:01:00,944 Speaker 3: We're talking about Ryan Coogler's new movie Sinners. I did 17 00:01:00,984 --> 00:01:02,704 Speaker 3: talk about it for a week in Watch. But there's 18 00:01:02,744 --> 00:01:05,824 Speaker 3: a lot of drama on the whole thing to unpack. 19 00:01:06,024 --> 00:01:08,104 Speaker 3: But first cal last. 20 00:01:07,864 --> 00:01:10,824 Speaker 4: Night we finished the Easter long weekend with use that 21 00:01:10,944 --> 00:01:13,984 Speaker 4: Pope Prince has passed away after complications from a long 22 00:01:14,024 --> 00:01:17,344 Speaker 4: standing respiratory illness resulting in a stroke and. 23 00:01:17,304 --> 00:01:18,424 Speaker 1: Subsequent heart failure. 24 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:21,544 Speaker 4: So the Vatican Press Office confirmed the news, which really 25 00:01:21,544 --> 00:01:24,904 Speaker 4: shocked the Catholic community, given just hours earlier, he had 26 00:01:24,904 --> 00:01:27,664 Speaker 4: made his public appearance at the Vatican on Easter Sunday 27 00:01:27,704 --> 00:01:32,824 Speaker 4: to bestow his blessing after Eastern Mass. Vatican spokesperson Mattio 28 00:01:32,904 --> 00:01:35,904 Speaker 4: announced that, in keeping with tradition, the funeral rites will 29 00:01:35,944 --> 00:01:40,424 Speaker 4: begin at Saint Peter's Basilica, tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, followed 30 00:01:40,464 --> 00:01:43,664 Speaker 4: by a period of morning during which the cardinals will 31 00:01:43,824 --> 00:01:49,504 Speaker 4: convene in a conclave to elect his successor. Speaking of Conclave. 32 00:01:49,184 --> 00:01:53,224 Speaker 3: M okay, I feel like anyone who's watched the movie Conclave, 33 00:01:53,704 --> 00:01:55,784 Speaker 3: it's going to sound so morbid, but I think they're 34 00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:58,464 Speaker 3: all very, very excited because for the first time ever, 35 00:01:59,024 --> 00:02:01,584 Speaker 3: all of us as a collective know exactly what's going 36 00:02:01,624 --> 00:02:02,624 Speaker 3: to except me. 37 00:02:02,904 --> 00:02:04,864 Speaker 2: Except you because you haven't watched it. Well, it was. 38 00:02:04,824 --> 00:02:11,664 Speaker 4: Funny seeing the nomination and Ralphanez was incredible, but it 39 00:02:11,704 --> 00:02:14,424 Speaker 4: was just funny. In the planning meeting this morning, you go, yeah, 40 00:02:14,424 --> 00:02:17,144 Speaker 4: I can't like everyone's talking about Conclave, and I went. 41 00:02:17,344 --> 00:02:20,864 Speaker 3: Eh, it is one of the best films I've ever seen. 42 00:02:20,944 --> 00:02:22,624 Speaker 3: And I don't even say that lightly. 43 00:02:22,624 --> 00:02:25,664 Speaker 4: So I which is if you just said the subject matter, 44 00:02:25,704 --> 00:02:28,904 Speaker 4: which is about like the pope, it doesn't sound that ributing. 45 00:02:29,024 --> 00:02:31,664 Speaker 3: The reason why everyone's sawing my conclave is that it 46 00:02:31,784 --> 00:02:35,104 Speaker 3: starts with the pope dying and they go into extreme 47 00:02:35,184 --> 00:02:37,744 Speaker 3: detail of how the next pope is chosen. 48 00:02:38,264 --> 00:02:39,064 Speaker 2: Because I've known. 49 00:02:38,944 --> 00:02:40,544 Speaker 3: This process for a while because I had been brought 50 00:02:40,584 --> 00:02:44,104 Speaker 3: up Catholic. But when I saw it in conclave, it's 51 00:02:44,144 --> 00:02:45,744 Speaker 3: one of those things and I feel like it's the 52 00:02:45,784 --> 00:02:49,264 Speaker 3: only thing in Western society that we've all just left 53 00:02:49,304 --> 00:02:51,344 Speaker 3: alone and let them do it on their own, and 54 00:02:51,344 --> 00:02:53,584 Speaker 3: then they've just come back into the world going, here's 55 00:02:53,624 --> 00:02:56,864 Speaker 3: the new Pope. So what happens when the pope passes away? 56 00:02:57,264 --> 00:02:59,824 Speaker 3: They do have some days of morning, but the next 57 00:02:59,824 --> 00:03:03,144 Speaker 3: pope has to be chosen between fifteen and twenty days 58 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:06,424 Speaker 3: after the seat has been vacant. So what happens is 59 00:03:06,464 --> 00:03:09,224 Speaker 3: like all the cardinals travel to Rome. 60 00:03:09,384 --> 00:03:10,184 Speaker 1: How many are there? 61 00:03:10,384 --> 00:03:14,184 Speaker 3: There's over two hundred okay, wow, but only the cardinals 62 00:03:14,304 --> 00:03:16,624 Speaker 3: under eighty years old are allowed to vote, so that's 63 00:03:16,624 --> 00:03:19,224 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty or something. Also, we have the 64 00:03:19,264 --> 00:03:22,104 Speaker 3: youngest cardinal in Australia. He's forty four. Oh, look at us, 65 00:03:22,184 --> 00:03:24,304 Speaker 3: look at us. So what happens. They all go to 66 00:03:24,344 --> 00:03:26,664 Speaker 3: the Cisting Chapel and this takes days and they're not 67 00:03:26,704 --> 00:03:29,864 Speaker 3: allowed to talk to anyone in the outside world to 68 00:03:29,944 --> 00:03:32,424 Speaker 3: pick the next pope. It's a very interesting process. It's 69 00:03:32,544 --> 00:03:36,224 Speaker 3: very political because you have these cardinals who want to 70 00:03:36,264 --> 00:03:38,624 Speaker 3: be pope, but they all have different yews, right, like 71 00:03:38,664 --> 00:03:41,504 Speaker 3: Pope Francis was seen as a very progressive pope. Yeah, 72 00:03:41,544 --> 00:03:44,824 Speaker 3: you can still get very conservative popes. Cardinals can be 73 00:03:44,904 --> 00:03:47,824 Speaker 3: very conservative. We probably don't want, probably don't want, especially 74 00:03:47,864 --> 00:03:50,744 Speaker 3: after having someone so progressive. And all they do is 75 00:03:50,784 --> 00:03:52,904 Speaker 3: that they get together and then they vote for who 76 00:03:52,944 --> 00:03:56,704 Speaker 3: they want the next pope to be. After they voted, 77 00:03:57,144 --> 00:03:59,304 Speaker 3: if you're looking at the Cysting Chapel, there's a chimney. 78 00:03:59,584 --> 00:04:02,864 Speaker 4: Yeah, is it like survival, Like they'll all just say 79 00:04:03,184 --> 00:04:04,864 Speaker 4: who they think or they hold up a card or 80 00:04:04,904 --> 00:04:06,344 Speaker 4: do they secretly put a ballot in? 81 00:04:06,624 --> 00:04:10,344 Speaker 3: It's a secret ballot, Okay, it's a secret bout so cardinal. Yeah, 82 00:04:10,744 --> 00:04:12,344 Speaker 3: and also you can vote for yourself, which. 83 00:04:12,184 --> 00:04:13,624 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of them would do, all of them. 84 00:04:13,904 --> 00:04:16,104 Speaker 3: So what happens is we're all looking at the Sistine 85 00:04:16,144 --> 00:04:19,064 Speaker 3: Chapel like this, cameras on assisting chapel. If black smoke 86 00:04:19,184 --> 00:04:22,664 Speaker 3: comes out of the chimney, that means the vote was inconclusive. 87 00:04:23,304 --> 00:04:25,944 Speaker 3: If white smoke comes out of the chimney, that means 88 00:04:25,944 --> 00:04:27,344 Speaker 3: they found the next pope. 89 00:04:27,704 --> 00:04:30,104 Speaker 1: Oh okay, And it's all very exciting. 90 00:04:29,944 --> 00:04:32,544 Speaker 3: Very exciting, and then you all gather in Rome, and 91 00:04:32,584 --> 00:04:34,784 Speaker 3: then one of the cardinals comes out on the balcony 92 00:04:34,784 --> 00:04:36,264 Speaker 3: and he announces there's a new pope. 93 00:04:36,584 --> 00:04:37,864 Speaker 2: And then he arrives. 94 00:04:38,304 --> 00:04:42,424 Speaker 1: Oh and then is he pushed out those mahogany curtains. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 95 00:04:42,504 --> 00:04:43,184 Speaker 1: kind of like the queen. 96 00:04:43,344 --> 00:04:45,624 Speaker 3: And then he comes out and like he's decked out essentially, 97 00:04:45,784 --> 00:04:47,624 Speaker 3: and then he's straight away on the job, like he 98 00:04:47,664 --> 00:04:50,264 Speaker 3: has to do media, he has to do like photo ops. 99 00:04:50,344 --> 00:04:52,424 Speaker 3: He gets to choose his own name. Oh so they 100 00:04:52,424 --> 00:04:53,944 Speaker 3: don't keep his name. 101 00:04:53,984 --> 00:04:54,464 Speaker 1: Wasn't pope. 102 00:04:54,504 --> 00:04:55,504 Speaker 2: It wasn't Pope Francis. 103 00:04:55,624 --> 00:04:57,304 Speaker 1: Actually no, I did read that this morning. It was 104 00:04:57,344 --> 00:05:00,464 Speaker 1: something else his birth name. That's wild, though, I actually agree. 105 00:05:00,544 --> 00:05:03,664 Speaker 4: I love history, and I find these sorts of things 106 00:05:03,664 --> 00:05:08,384 Speaker 4: where they really keep to certain systems or processes whatever. 107 00:05:08,384 --> 00:05:09,064 Speaker 1: There's probably and. 108 00:05:09,064 --> 00:05:10,544 Speaker 2: I like how people just left them alone to do. 109 00:05:10,704 --> 00:05:12,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like when the queen died. 110 00:05:13,544 --> 00:05:15,984 Speaker 4: I'm not a royalist by any means, but I watched 111 00:05:16,024 --> 00:05:17,464 Speaker 4: the funeral and I was like, I did not have 112 00:05:17,544 --> 00:05:19,304 Speaker 4: this on my bingo card for you, but I found 113 00:05:19,344 --> 00:05:23,584 Speaker 4: it so interesting to watch, like they've just got so. 114 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:25,184 Speaker 3: Many the same things because I'm like, oh, you're doing 115 00:05:25,224 --> 00:05:26,744 Speaker 3: what you're doing now and you would have done the 116 00:05:26,784 --> 00:05:28,704 Speaker 3: exact same thing like one hundred years ago. Yeah, and 117 00:05:28,704 --> 00:05:29,424 Speaker 3: that's really cool. 118 00:05:29,624 --> 00:05:30,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool. 119 00:05:31,064 --> 00:05:31,424 Speaker 3: Anyway. 120 00:05:31,984 --> 00:05:35,984 Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, sorry to the pope, but it's okay. 121 00:05:36,104 --> 00:05:39,144 Speaker 4: He had a lovely long life and he waits, that's 122 00:05:39,224 --> 00:05:40,024 Speaker 4: the wrong life. 123 00:05:40,104 --> 00:05:43,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's nice. 124 00:05:44,304 --> 00:05:49,544 Speaker 4: Moving on, finally, we're have've wrapped up Coachella twenty twenty five. 125 00:05:49,664 --> 00:05:51,304 Speaker 2: Where did this one feel like it went for a month? 126 00:05:51,344 --> 00:05:54,504 Speaker 4: Oh because the content was out of control, particularly with 127 00:05:54,544 --> 00:05:57,784 Speaker 4: weekend one. Weekend to just finished and not much happened, 128 00:05:57,784 --> 00:06:00,864 Speaker 4: if I'm completely honest. But the reason is that weekend 129 00:06:00,864 --> 00:06:03,744 Speaker 4: two is actually for people that like music and festivals, 130 00:06:03,744 --> 00:06:06,744 Speaker 4: whereas weekend one is definitely more you go to be 131 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:08,344 Speaker 4: seen and to get your pictures. 132 00:06:08,384 --> 00:06:08,984 Speaker 2: Interesting. 133 00:06:09,264 --> 00:06:11,504 Speaker 3: This is with weekends, I have seen a lot of 134 00:06:11,544 --> 00:06:14,264 Speaker 3: like performances more than the crowd. 135 00:06:14,504 --> 00:06:17,024 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like if you wanted to go just for 136 00:06:17,064 --> 00:06:18,744 Speaker 4: the music, you would definitely go. 137 00:06:19,104 --> 00:06:19,744 Speaker 1: Weekend two. 138 00:06:19,904 --> 00:06:22,744 Speaker 4: I'm happy to say my favorite moment though, like I said, 139 00:06:22,744 --> 00:06:24,904 Speaker 4: nothing really happened. I'm not sure if you saw this though, 140 00:06:24,944 --> 00:06:27,744 Speaker 4: but the Aussie podcast as Britt Saunders and Matt Hay 141 00:06:28,144 --> 00:06:32,864 Speaker 4: wore Bunnings outfits on day three so funny, like actual uniforms. 142 00:06:33,104 --> 00:06:35,504 Speaker 4: We need to share it on socials like it was 143 00:06:35,584 --> 00:06:38,904 Speaker 4: actually the best thing I've seen from Coachella, to be honest, honestly, 144 00:06:38,944 --> 00:06:41,744 Speaker 4: they are just so funny and it's just so I 145 00:06:41,824 --> 00:06:44,224 Speaker 4: kind of and especially I've been having such a chuckle 146 00:06:44,264 --> 00:06:46,784 Speaker 4: personally at a lot of the outfits that came out, 147 00:06:46,824 --> 00:06:50,624 Speaker 4: particularly last weekend, because it almost was like people doing 148 00:06:50,624 --> 00:06:53,664 Speaker 4: a bit of a parody of fashion and for them 149 00:06:53,704 --> 00:06:55,624 Speaker 4: to actually just go, you know what, we are just 150 00:06:55,664 --> 00:06:57,944 Speaker 4: going to wear actual Bunnings out. 151 00:06:57,784 --> 00:06:59,544 Speaker 3: For me, God, I'm looking at them right now. 152 00:06:59,744 --> 00:07:00,664 Speaker 1: How great? 153 00:07:00,904 --> 00:07:02,384 Speaker 2: This is so funny idea. 154 00:07:02,704 --> 00:07:06,184 Speaker 4: Ever, honestly, the amount of free publicity that Bunnings gets 155 00:07:06,224 --> 00:07:08,384 Speaker 4: overseas is quite like they. 156 00:07:08,304 --> 00:07:10,544 Speaker 3: Really need to even Paul right when he the a 157 00:07:10,584 --> 00:07:13,704 Speaker 3: Bunning's umbrella. 158 00:07:12,584 --> 00:07:14,424 Speaker 1: And someone had a hat at one point. 159 00:07:15,184 --> 00:07:16,024 Speaker 2: They doesn't have great many. 160 00:07:16,064 --> 00:07:17,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, they really do anyway. 161 00:07:17,984 --> 00:07:21,824 Speaker 4: Other notable moments from weekend too was Kesha joined ag 162 00:07:22,104 --> 00:07:25,664 Speaker 4: Cook on Friday night and the Queen herself, Cynthia Arrivo. 163 00:07:26,424 --> 00:07:32,344 Speaker 4: I know she joined the La Philharmonic on Saturday. Oh 164 00:07:32,384 --> 00:07:36,264 Speaker 4: my god, like actually incredible. And then they also had 165 00:07:36,384 --> 00:07:40,344 Speaker 4: Natasha betting Field on stage and I'm so jealous like that, 166 00:07:41,064 --> 00:07:44,264 Speaker 4: not particularly I think she's great, but like, honestly, it's 167 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:47,144 Speaker 4: a bucket list item of my to be in a 168 00:07:47,184 --> 00:07:50,464 Speaker 4: big crowd and singing with everyone unwritten. 169 00:07:50,064 --> 00:07:53,264 Speaker 1: Well, you usually do, Coach, Hella, I haven't for a 170 00:07:53,264 --> 00:07:55,584 Speaker 1: long time. I've done it before a couple of times. 171 00:07:55,584 --> 00:07:57,584 Speaker 2: I thought this was your stick like every year. 172 00:07:57,784 --> 00:08:01,344 Speaker 4: No back when I did fashion influencing work. I did, 173 00:08:01,384 --> 00:08:02,464 Speaker 4: but I haven't for a long time. 174 00:08:02,504 --> 00:08:02,624 Speaker 3: Now. 175 00:08:02,664 --> 00:08:03,904 Speaker 2: I just like we should bring it back. 176 00:08:03,984 --> 00:08:07,784 Speaker 4: Watch on the sidelines ever since you know those viral 177 00:08:07,824 --> 00:08:10,944 Speaker 4: tiktoks a couple of years ago, and well just at 178 00:08:10,984 --> 00:08:13,304 Speaker 4: big house parties and everyone was singing, like, it's just 179 00:08:13,344 --> 00:08:15,024 Speaker 4: a bucket list of goal of mine. I feel like 180 00:08:15,064 --> 00:08:16,864 Speaker 4: it's a pretty achievable. It doesn't have to beat Coach, 181 00:08:17,024 --> 00:08:19,384 Speaker 4: it could be anywhere. But that is when I was jealous. 182 00:08:19,904 --> 00:08:23,024 Speaker 3: Maybe I could have about I play the song and 183 00:08:23,024 --> 00:08:25,224 Speaker 3: then you can just stand and sing it because it 184 00:08:25,224 --> 00:08:26,184 Speaker 3: needs to be with the crowd. 185 00:08:26,304 --> 00:08:28,544 Speaker 2: Okay too, we'll get people around. We'll figure it out. 186 00:08:28,544 --> 00:08:29,184 Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. 187 00:08:29,264 --> 00:08:31,584 Speaker 1: Anyway. That's pretty much all that happened to Coachell a 188 00:08:31,664 --> 00:08:35,664 Speaker 1: weekend two. It was pretty much just performances. Yeah, people 189 00:08:35,704 --> 00:08:38,304 Speaker 1: actually enjoying themselves, a lot of dust. 190 00:08:38,464 --> 00:08:39,264 Speaker 2: And now it's done. 191 00:08:39,384 --> 00:08:42,344 Speaker 1: And now it is done until the festivities next year. 192 00:08:42,504 --> 00:08:44,384 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we should get you in every year, 193 00:08:44,624 --> 00:08:45,784 Speaker 3: just to give us my Coachell. 194 00:08:45,984 --> 00:08:49,024 Speaker 1: I would definitely do a really honest recap. No one 195 00:08:49,064 --> 00:08:50,184 Speaker 1: would ever want to talk to me. 196 00:08:52,664 --> 00:08:55,104 Speaker 3: So I need to talk about a movie. 197 00:08:55,824 --> 00:08:58,224 Speaker 1: And it missed very How many times have you seen it? 198 00:08:58,264 --> 00:09:01,944 Speaker 3: I've seen it twice. It's only been out for three days. 199 00:09:01,584 --> 00:09:03,264 Speaker 1: And I have admitted that. 200 00:09:03,424 --> 00:09:06,704 Speaker 4: Yesterday I thought, should I go through this film or 201 00:09:06,704 --> 00:09:10,864 Speaker 4: should I see the really poorly rated horror film myself? 202 00:09:10,904 --> 00:09:13,944 Speaker 1: And the one hour that I have I went to 203 00:09:13,984 --> 00:09:15,024 Speaker 1: see the horror film, didn't I. 204 00:09:15,104 --> 00:09:17,984 Speaker 3: You know what's really funny is that Sinners was my 205 00:09:18,464 --> 00:09:21,464 Speaker 3: weekend watch last week, and Drop was one of LB's 206 00:09:21,464 --> 00:09:22,784 Speaker 3: weekend watch last time. 207 00:09:22,824 --> 00:09:24,024 Speaker 1: Has she actually seen it? 208 00:09:24,224 --> 00:09:24,584 Speaker 2: Yeah. 209 00:09:24,704 --> 00:09:27,024 Speaker 3: So she went to the premiere for Drop and I 210 00:09:27,064 --> 00:09:28,944 Speaker 3: went to the premiere for Sinners, and it was like, 211 00:09:29,024 --> 00:09:30,744 Speaker 3: kind of the first premiere is we usually go together 212 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:31,584 Speaker 3: the last person. 213 00:09:31,384 --> 00:09:34,464 Speaker 4: When we did Solo, it was fine, but definitely I'm 214 00:09:34,464 --> 00:09:35,664 Speaker 4: not going to go see it again tomorrow. 215 00:09:35,704 --> 00:09:37,024 Speaker 1: So I assume that Sinners is way that. 216 00:09:37,144 --> 00:09:40,064 Speaker 3: She says something similar. So yeah, Sinners. So I did 217 00:09:40,184 --> 00:09:42,944 Speaker 3: briefly talk about it for a Weekend Watch, but it 218 00:09:42,984 --> 00:09:46,464 Speaker 3: has changed my life. It is my favorite movie I 219 00:09:46,504 --> 00:09:48,224 Speaker 3: want to say this year so far. 220 00:09:48,544 --> 00:09:48,944 Speaker 1: Wow. 221 00:09:49,224 --> 00:09:51,344 Speaker 3: As you guys know, it stars Michael B. 222 00:09:51,544 --> 00:09:51,904 Speaker 2: Jordan. 223 00:09:52,184 --> 00:09:56,464 Speaker 3: He is, hut, the most attractive person I've ever seen. 224 00:09:56,584 --> 00:09:58,824 Speaker 4: And he makes me uncomfortable. He's so good looking, like 225 00:09:58,824 --> 00:09:59,744 Speaker 4: I don't want to look at him. 226 00:09:59,784 --> 00:10:02,824 Speaker 3: And it gets better because he plays twin brothers. 227 00:10:03,344 --> 00:10:06,424 Speaker 2: So there's two Michael B. Jordan's in this movie, Like 228 00:10:06,504 --> 00:10:07,944 Speaker 2: what more do you want? Three? 229 00:10:08,184 --> 00:10:11,224 Speaker 3: Maybe the sequel. So he plays his twin brothers. Their 230 00:10:11,304 --> 00:10:13,784 Speaker 3: names are Smoke and Stack. It's set in the nineteen 231 00:10:13,864 --> 00:10:17,824 Speaker 3: thirties and they're like these mafia gangsters from Chicago and 232 00:10:17,864 --> 00:10:20,304 Speaker 3: they come back to their hometown to start a little 233 00:10:20,384 --> 00:10:23,864 Speaker 3: like music pub just for the people, just for their friends. 234 00:10:24,704 --> 00:10:26,944 Speaker 3: And then it gets very woo woo and there's some 235 00:10:27,064 --> 00:10:30,424 Speaker 3: horror elements in it, some spooky elements. Hayley Sein feel's 236 00:10:30,424 --> 00:10:32,864 Speaker 3: in it as well. She's brilliant in it. The whole 237 00:10:32,904 --> 00:10:36,264 Speaker 3: thing is so so well done. And word of mouth, 238 00:10:36,304 --> 00:10:38,144 Speaker 3: because I went to the premiere, so it's one of 239 00:10:38,144 --> 00:10:40,184 Speaker 3: those moments where I just wanted to know what everyone 240 00:10:40,224 --> 00:10:42,184 Speaker 3: thought about it, and I couldn't because, like I was 241 00:10:42,224 --> 00:10:44,104 Speaker 3: one of the first few people to see it. 242 00:10:44,624 --> 00:10:47,304 Speaker 1: The perils of going to the premier zeas you've got 243 00:10:47,304 --> 00:10:48,424 Speaker 1: no one to talk about me. 244 00:10:48,464 --> 00:10:50,464 Speaker 3: I'm like, someone watched this, so I can speak about it. 245 00:10:50,944 --> 00:10:53,824 Speaker 3: Word of mouth, everyone's been loving this film. It's so 246 00:10:53,944 --> 00:10:56,464 Speaker 3: highly rated on Rotten Tomatoes, even though we don't really 247 00:10:56,504 --> 00:10:59,744 Speaker 3: like look at the rating system, but just from people 248 00:10:59,744 --> 00:11:02,464 Speaker 3: who have seen it, who have talked to everyone's obsessed 249 00:11:02,464 --> 00:11:08,584 Speaker 3: with it. However, mainstream media initially weren't too impressed with 250 00:11:08,704 --> 00:11:11,784 Speaker 3: the movie. So it's direct I did by Ryan Coogler. 251 00:11:11,864 --> 00:11:15,064 Speaker 3: He's a brilliant director. He did the Black Panther movies, 252 00:11:15,224 --> 00:11:18,224 Speaker 3: he did Creed, fruit Vale Station. A lot of these 253 00:11:18,264 --> 00:11:21,184 Speaker 3: also star Michael B. Jordan till it's like they just working. 254 00:11:21,184 --> 00:11:23,064 Speaker 1: He also has a bit of a crash on him. 255 00:11:23,344 --> 00:11:25,504 Speaker 3: I don't blame him. If I was directed out only 256 00:11:25,504 --> 00:11:27,304 Speaker 3: on Michael Jordan to be in my film. 257 00:11:27,024 --> 00:11:29,184 Speaker 4: You're like, you're not just playing twin brothers. You're playing 258 00:11:29,224 --> 00:11:30,264 Speaker 4: every character and. 259 00:11:30,424 --> 00:11:31,744 Speaker 2: Every character I ever do. 260 00:11:32,504 --> 00:11:37,424 Speaker 3: So in the first weekend, it made over sixty million worldwide, 261 00:11:38,104 --> 00:11:41,264 Speaker 3: and that's meant to be really, really good. It's meant 262 00:11:41,264 --> 00:11:45,184 Speaker 3: to be amazing. However, a lot of media outlets were reporting, 263 00:11:45,224 --> 00:11:48,064 Speaker 3: like Variety, New York Times were reporting that they don't 264 00:11:48,184 --> 00:11:50,824 Speaker 3: think that this film will ever be able to make 265 00:11:50,824 --> 00:11:51,664 Speaker 3: a profit. 266 00:11:51,704 --> 00:11:53,904 Speaker 1: Even though it did, even though all. 267 00:11:53,784 --> 00:11:55,984 Speaker 3: The graphs are showing that it's well and truly will be. 268 00:11:56,344 --> 00:12:00,744 Speaker 3: And it's also a movie called Sinners that was released 269 00:12:00,944 --> 00:12:03,784 Speaker 3: on Easter weekend and then the pope died the next day. 270 00:12:04,104 --> 00:12:05,744 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So I'm like it had a lot of 271 00:12:05,784 --> 00:12:09,344 Speaker 3: odds working against it. It's also a huge about. 272 00:12:09,224 --> 00:12:13,704 Speaker 1: All you could say for it. All publicity's good. 273 00:12:13,544 --> 00:12:17,304 Speaker 3: Publicity, but it had like a lot of things working 274 00:12:17,344 --> 00:12:21,224 Speaker 3: against it. It's also an original film. Usually it's like franchises, 275 00:12:21,424 --> 00:12:24,864 Speaker 3: all franchises that have an existing ip that do really well. 276 00:12:25,184 --> 00:12:27,904 Speaker 3: So it was one of those first original movies that 277 00:12:27,944 --> 00:12:30,024 Speaker 3: has just done extremely well straight out of the gate, 278 00:12:30,144 --> 00:12:32,224 Speaker 3: and it was really confusing why all these media outlets 279 00:12:32,224 --> 00:12:34,184 Speaker 3: are just only talking about how it might not make 280 00:12:34,224 --> 00:12:38,024 Speaker 3: a profit. And then you dive a bit deeper and 281 00:12:38,064 --> 00:12:40,464 Speaker 3: you look into Ryan Coogler's contract that he had with 282 00:12:40,504 --> 00:12:43,344 Speaker 3: Warner Brothers to make this film, and a part of 283 00:12:43,384 --> 00:12:47,344 Speaker 3: the contract says that after twenty five years, Warner Brothers 284 00:12:47,344 --> 00:12:50,544 Speaker 3: has to give the film rights back to Ryan. So 285 00:12:50,624 --> 00:12:54,424 Speaker 3: that seems fine, right, Apparently it's a big deal. It's 286 00:12:54,424 --> 00:12:56,464 Speaker 3: been reported that a lot of executives think that this 287 00:12:56,544 --> 00:12:59,304 Speaker 3: will set a precedent for all future movies being made. 288 00:12:59,504 --> 00:13:01,304 Speaker 3: So he's the one that wrote it, he's the one 289 00:13:01,344 --> 00:13:04,304 Speaker 3: who created it. Baby, Yes, okay, so he wants like 290 00:13:04,344 --> 00:13:06,584 Speaker 3: all creative rights and he wants to own the film 291 00:13:06,624 --> 00:13:07,624 Speaker 3: in twenty five years. 292 00:13:07,744 --> 00:13:10,864 Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, it could be used in skills 293 00:13:10,984 --> 00:13:13,224 Speaker 1: and sumptions. Just keep making those royalties. 294 00:13:13,424 --> 00:13:16,144 Speaker 3: So luckily people have been reading between the lines because 295 00:13:16,184 --> 00:13:19,744 Speaker 3: everyone has been calling out these publications saying, hey, people 296 00:13:19,784 --> 00:13:23,384 Speaker 3: like Quentin Tarantino have been doing this for so many years, 297 00:13:23,464 --> 00:13:26,664 Speaker 3: and yet they get so much praise and approval for 298 00:13:26,744 --> 00:13:29,424 Speaker 3: having these big ideas and having these massive contracts that 299 00:13:29,464 --> 00:13:32,864 Speaker 3: put the creative. First, it's really interesting how you get 300 00:13:32,984 --> 00:13:36,504 Speaker 3: Ryan Coogler who's like telling these black stories and you're 301 00:13:36,624 --> 00:13:39,384 Speaker 3: now kind of like basically shitting on his ideas. Oh, 302 00:13:39,904 --> 00:13:43,144 Speaker 3: to the point where Ben Stiller even tweeted about it, saying, 303 00:13:43,624 --> 00:13:46,024 Speaker 3: why are we even questioning that this is like a 304 00:13:46,024 --> 00:13:48,544 Speaker 3: big movie? It made sixty three million dollars? Like why 305 00:13:48,584 --> 00:13:49,344 Speaker 3: are people like is. 306 00:13:49,344 --> 00:13:52,264 Speaker 1: That chump changed to these people? Like what's your salary? 307 00:13:52,304 --> 00:13:53,744 Speaker 1: Working in your crazy? 308 00:13:53,984 --> 00:13:55,784 Speaker 3: So a lot of like stuff has been going on 309 00:13:55,944 --> 00:13:58,344 Speaker 3: to the point where now media outlets are starting to 310 00:13:58,584 --> 00:14:03,504 Speaker 3: slowly change headlines and they're starting to write other opinions 311 00:14:03,584 --> 00:14:05,544 Speaker 3: saying that sin this is actually a good movie, because 312 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:06,064 Speaker 3: it is a. 313 00:14:06,184 --> 00:14:07,464 Speaker 2: Fucking good movie. 314 00:14:07,624 --> 00:14:09,344 Speaker 1: Can we take it back a bit? What is it about? 315 00:14:09,464 --> 00:14:11,584 Speaker 3: Or you just said that in the Weekend Watch. If 316 00:14:11,584 --> 00:14:13,824 Speaker 3: you didn't listen, you didn't listen. So it's about like 317 00:14:13,864 --> 00:14:16,664 Speaker 3: these two brothers they get twins. Yeah, the twins. They 318 00:14:16,664 --> 00:14:18,984 Speaker 3: come back to their hometown and they want to start 319 00:14:18,984 --> 00:14:19,464 Speaker 3: this pub. 320 00:14:19,864 --> 00:14:21,024 Speaker 2: And this might be a bit of. 321 00:14:20,984 --> 00:14:23,824 Speaker 1: A spoiler, but spoiler alert. 322 00:14:23,784 --> 00:14:25,184 Speaker 2: Some vampire stuff going on. 323 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:28,984 Speaker 4: Oh okay, it's actually fair if it's nineteen thirty. 324 00:14:28,864 --> 00:14:30,824 Speaker 3: Nineteen thirties and when I say nineteen thirty, it's like 325 00:14:30,904 --> 00:14:35,784 Speaker 3: old school vampires, so like like the originals, like the 326 00:14:35,784 --> 00:14:38,184 Speaker 3: ones that can't stand garlic, the ones that you need 327 00:14:38,224 --> 00:14:40,944 Speaker 3: to like steak to the heart, like the og Vampire. 328 00:14:42,104 --> 00:14:43,104 Speaker 1: None of that glitter shit. 329 00:14:43,344 --> 00:14:43,584 Speaker 4: No. 330 00:14:44,304 --> 00:14:46,704 Speaker 3: So it's a lot about like blues music and blues 331 00:14:46,744 --> 00:14:50,224 Speaker 3: from the nineteen thirties. And the soundtrack in this is amazing. 332 00:14:51,064 --> 00:14:54,304 Speaker 3: It's incredible. Oh, the graphics are beautiful. It's done so 333 00:14:54,304 --> 00:14:58,304 Speaker 3: so well. The storytelling is immaculate. I need everyone to 334 00:14:58,344 --> 00:14:59,024 Speaker 3: watch it right now. 335 00:14:59,104 --> 00:15:02,024 Speaker 1: Do not read the reviews. I don't need anyway. Yeah, 336 00:15:02,024 --> 00:15:03,664 Speaker 1: if I have Readbrugs for. 337 00:15:03,624 --> 00:15:06,264 Speaker 4: Anything, I just wouldn't watch a thing because everything would 338 00:15:06,264 --> 00:15:07,224 Speaker 4: just sound pretty boring. 339 00:15:07,304 --> 00:15:09,144 Speaker 3: And if you see a bad review, call them out. 340 00:15:09,624 --> 00:15:10,224 Speaker 2: Why do you think that? 341 00:15:10,344 --> 00:15:11,784 Speaker 1: How do you think that? What makes you think you 342 00:15:11,824 --> 00:15:12,664 Speaker 1: could do so much better? 343 00:15:12,704 --> 00:15:15,744 Speaker 2: Huh huh. Thank you so. 344 00:15:15,784 --> 00:15:18,104 Speaker 3: Much for listening to The Spill today. 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