1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and Waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,545 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded. 4 00:00:19,065 --> 00:00:20,105 Speaker 1: On Hey you biz. 5 00:00:20,185 --> 00:00:22,665 Speaker 2: It's the new year, and we've been talking a lot 6 00:00:22,705 --> 00:00:26,025 Speaker 2: about skincare ins and outs and beauty resolutions on the show, 7 00:00:26,265 --> 00:00:28,585 Speaker 2: and one that has come up a lot for myself, 8 00:00:28,825 --> 00:00:31,345 Speaker 2: Kelly and the other you beauty hosts is having more 9 00:00:31,505 --> 00:00:34,545 Speaker 2: fun with beauty. No lip is too bold, no skirt 10 00:00:34,665 --> 00:00:38,225 Speaker 2: is too short, too bright, or too anything. So I 11 00:00:38,225 --> 00:00:40,385 Speaker 2: thought you might like this episode of Nothing to Wear, 12 00:00:40,465 --> 00:00:44,225 Speaker 2: which is all about confidence and creativity, blending beauty with 13 00:00:44,305 --> 00:00:47,225 Speaker 2: fashion to help you express yourself fully for the new year. 14 00:00:47,625 --> 00:00:51,865 Speaker 2: Give it a listen, and I hope you enjoy. Whoever 15 00:00:51,905 --> 00:00:54,865 Speaker 2: said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed. 16 00:00:54,505 --> 00:00:56,865 Speaker 1: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 17 00:00:57,105 --> 00:00:58,065 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you. 18 00:00:58,145 --> 00:01:00,225 Speaker 3: Have to do it. You live for fashion. 19 00:01:01,785 --> 00:01:04,505 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 20 00:01:04,585 --> 00:01:08,705 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 21 00:01:09,065 --> 00:01:11,265 Speaker 2: and every week I chat to an expert and they 22 00:01:11,385 --> 00:01:13,385 Speaker 2: help us work out how to get more out of 23 00:01:13,385 --> 00:01:15,985 Speaker 2: the clothes we already own and tell us exactly what 24 00:01:16,225 --> 00:01:19,545 Speaker 2: is and also what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe? 25 00:01:20,105 --> 00:01:22,465 Speaker 2: Have you ever looked at an item when shopping, or 26 00:01:22,505 --> 00:01:24,625 Speaker 2: even in your own wardrobe and thought. 27 00:01:24,625 --> 00:01:25,425 Speaker 1: I can't wear that? 28 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:30,865 Speaker 2: Well, today's guest says why not. Victoria Latu is one 29 00:01:30,865 --> 00:01:36,145 Speaker 2: of Australia's most influential fashion commentators and creators. She's covered 30 00:01:36,145 --> 00:01:40,145 Speaker 2: red carpets and interviewed alistas like the Kardashians. Victoria is 31 00:01:40,185 --> 00:01:43,265 Speaker 2: also skilled in front and behind the camera, and in 32 00:01:43,265 --> 00:01:47,945 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, she began her online platform, Talking Shop, a 33 00:01:47,985 --> 00:01:53,745 Speaker 2: bold modern lifestyle online brand covering topics such as fashion, beauty, lifestyle, 34 00:01:53,985 --> 00:01:58,625 Speaker 2: motherhood and wellness. She's a wonderful advocate for diversity within 35 00:01:58,665 --> 00:02:02,505 Speaker 2: the fashion industry and helps promote confidence in women across 36 00:02:02,545 --> 00:02:06,465 Speaker 2: the nation through how they style and create their signature looks. 37 00:02:06,905 --> 00:02:09,265 Speaker 2: And when it comes to the shoulds and shouldn'ts in 38 00:02:09,265 --> 00:02:12,665 Speaker 2: your ward Victoria reminds us all that we can make 39 00:02:12,705 --> 00:02:15,265 Speaker 2: our own rules when it comes to our personal style. 40 00:02:16,145 --> 00:02:18,025 Speaker 1: Victoria, firstly, welcome to the show. 41 00:02:18,105 --> 00:02:21,145 Speaker 2: I'm very very excited to have you and I want 42 00:02:21,185 --> 00:02:24,065 Speaker 2: to ask you two questions that I ask new guests. 43 00:02:24,305 --> 00:02:27,345 Speaker 2: The first one is can you describe your own style 44 00:02:27,505 --> 00:02:28,465 Speaker 2: in three words? 45 00:02:28,905 --> 00:02:33,305 Speaker 4: This is literally what I recommend to everybody who is 46 00:02:33,505 --> 00:02:34,985 Speaker 4: having problems or. 47 00:02:34,945 --> 00:02:37,185 Speaker 3: Like having confusion around their style. 48 00:02:37,985 --> 00:02:42,065 Speaker 4: So I'm going to go glamorous, I'm going to go she, 49 00:02:43,065 --> 00:02:45,345 Speaker 4: and I'm also going to go statement. 50 00:02:45,505 --> 00:02:46,985 Speaker 1: It's like you do this for a living. 51 00:02:47,425 --> 00:02:50,425 Speaker 4: On one end, I am Jennifer Lopez and on the 52 00:02:50,465 --> 00:02:52,305 Speaker 4: other end, I am win At Paltrow. 53 00:02:52,745 --> 00:02:55,065 Speaker 3: So they feel like they're very extreme. 54 00:02:54,705 --> 00:02:56,825 Speaker 4: Because she has like Winners for example, has like a 55 00:02:56,945 --> 00:03:00,705 Speaker 4: very simple, she very i would say, kind of clean, 56 00:03:00,865 --> 00:03:07,865 Speaker 4: basic style, like Richie York wife. Meanwhile, JLA's glum glums 57 00:03:07,905 --> 00:03:11,345 Speaker 4: on and I like them both almost equally and just 58 00:03:11,345 --> 00:03:13,785 Speaker 4: depending on what I'm feeling, and I'm going one or 59 00:03:13,785 --> 00:03:14,105 Speaker 4: the other. 60 00:03:14,705 --> 00:03:16,345 Speaker 3: But it has to be statementee. 61 00:03:16,625 --> 00:03:17,465 Speaker 1: I think it's clever. 62 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:20,585 Speaker 2: No one suggested kind of finding like a celebrity muse 63 00:03:20,825 --> 00:03:23,425 Speaker 2: that they can kind of identify and then think when 64 00:03:23,425 --> 00:03:26,505 Speaker 2: they're shopping or dressing, would they wear that or is 65 00:03:26,545 --> 00:03:27,225 Speaker 2: that their style? 66 00:03:27,225 --> 00:03:29,345 Speaker 1: Because that's my style. So that's a really clever way 67 00:03:29,385 --> 00:03:30,185 Speaker 1: of doing that is. 68 00:03:30,225 --> 00:03:34,185 Speaker 4: Actually, honestly, I think that is very important to do, 69 00:03:34,425 --> 00:03:38,025 Speaker 4: especially with the right of social media and us constantly 70 00:03:38,105 --> 00:03:39,625 Speaker 4: being bombarded by images. 71 00:03:39,785 --> 00:03:41,265 Speaker 3: We normally see things on. 72 00:03:41,305 --> 00:03:44,505 Speaker 4: People that we like or admire, and we think we're 73 00:03:44,545 --> 00:03:47,505 Speaker 4: actually loving the item they're wearing. So we'll see like 74 00:03:47,505 --> 00:03:50,665 Speaker 4: a hot jacket or a hot trouser or whatever it is, right, 75 00:03:51,225 --> 00:03:54,505 Speaker 4: But in essence, we're not so much sold by the item, 76 00:03:54,985 --> 00:03:58,105 Speaker 4: but by the essence that image is making us feel 77 00:03:58,145 --> 00:04:01,705 Speaker 4: like that person I look very sexy, or that person 78 00:04:01,785 --> 00:04:03,265 Speaker 4: I look very strong. 79 00:04:03,025 --> 00:04:04,545 Speaker 3: That person I look very rich. 80 00:04:04,785 --> 00:04:07,985 Speaker 4: Whatever it is that's attracting us, it's not really the 81 00:04:08,385 --> 00:04:09,345 Speaker 4: item itself. 82 00:04:10,025 --> 00:04:12,225 Speaker 2: So the next question I asked people before we get 83 00:04:12,265 --> 00:04:14,465 Speaker 2: into the theme of the show is that there's a 84 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:17,945 Speaker 2: theory that most people wear ten percent of their wardrobe 85 00:04:17,985 --> 00:04:20,265 Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time. So the items that they 86 00:04:20,265 --> 00:04:23,305 Speaker 2: grab for on high rotation, what is in your ten 87 00:04:23,345 --> 00:04:24,665 Speaker 2: percent in your wardrobe? 88 00:04:24,785 --> 00:04:26,785 Speaker 3: That ratio doesn't really work for me. 89 00:04:27,145 --> 00:04:30,785 Speaker 4: I go too bents almost every single day, well everyday 90 00:04:30,785 --> 00:04:32,145 Speaker 4: people that don't work in style. 91 00:04:32,585 --> 00:04:34,105 Speaker 3: That is very, very true. 92 00:04:34,145 --> 00:04:36,465 Speaker 4: It actually used to be eating tony that you use 93 00:04:36,505 --> 00:04:41,065 Speaker 4: twenty percent of your wardrobe, but now actually from the research, 94 00:04:41,105 --> 00:04:43,945 Speaker 4: you're right, it's ten percent of your wardrobe ninety percent 95 00:04:43,945 --> 00:04:46,705 Speaker 4: of the time. But if we think about it in 96 00:04:46,705 --> 00:04:51,985 Speaker 4: that capacity, I do wear jeans more than most of 97 00:04:52,145 --> 00:04:55,425 Speaker 4: anything in my wardrobe and when I not just plum jeens. Currently, 98 00:04:55,465 --> 00:04:56,585 Speaker 4: I am loving the. 99 00:04:56,465 --> 00:04:59,825 Speaker 3: Barrel jen, I know, the horseshoe jean, whatever you want 100 00:04:59,825 --> 00:05:03,385 Speaker 3: to color, I am so loving it. 101 00:05:03,985 --> 00:05:05,825 Speaker 2: And I love that you touched on the fact that 102 00:05:05,865 --> 00:05:08,145 Speaker 2: this ratio isn't really right for you because you do 103 00:05:08,185 --> 00:05:09,665 Speaker 2: get a lot of wear out of your wardrobe. Because 104 00:05:09,705 --> 00:05:11,625 Speaker 2: that's exactly why you're here, and that's what we're going 105 00:05:11,665 --> 00:05:13,985 Speaker 2: to talk about, is helping people let go of the 106 00:05:14,025 --> 00:05:16,345 Speaker 2: inhibitions to wear more of the clothes that they already 107 00:05:16,345 --> 00:05:19,145 Speaker 2: are in, or clothes that they maybe were afraid to 108 00:05:19,425 --> 00:05:22,065 Speaker 2: try on in the store. So my first question is 109 00:05:22,065 --> 00:05:24,065 Speaker 2: I've met you once. We met at the Mark and 110 00:05:24,105 --> 00:05:26,665 Speaker 2: Spencer event and I was telling producer Grace I was like, 111 00:05:26,785 --> 00:05:28,105 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I was sure this. 112 00:05:28,185 --> 00:05:30,985 Speaker 1: She was this big international supermodel. She had these amazing fun. 113 00:05:30,865 --> 00:05:33,425 Speaker 3: Classes super model. 114 00:05:35,225 --> 00:05:38,345 Speaker 2: We connected and I started following you and I just 115 00:05:38,945 --> 00:05:41,425 Speaker 2: love everything you do and the vibe I get from 116 00:05:41,425 --> 00:05:43,625 Speaker 2: your Instagram is the reason I wanted to chat to 117 00:05:43,705 --> 00:05:46,625 Speaker 2: you on this podcast, because yes, you do style, but 118 00:05:46,665 --> 00:05:49,985 Speaker 2: you're also a mother. You're incredibly busy, but I feel 119 00:05:50,025 --> 00:05:53,905 Speaker 2: like you have learned to let go of your fashion inhibitions, 120 00:05:53,985 --> 00:05:56,785 Speaker 2: or maybe you never had any. So what are you 121 00:05:56,905 --> 00:06:00,265 Speaker 2: seeing with your clients that made you so passionate about 122 00:06:00,865 --> 00:06:02,585 Speaker 2: wearing whatever you want? 123 00:06:02,985 --> 00:06:03,225 Speaker 3: You know? 124 00:06:03,345 --> 00:06:06,945 Speaker 4: The truth is, I'm going to confess and say that 125 00:06:07,305 --> 00:06:11,825 Speaker 4: I have never had any around how I dress. And 126 00:06:11,865 --> 00:06:16,265 Speaker 4: that's for a few reasons. It stems from my background. 127 00:06:16,425 --> 00:06:20,665 Speaker 4: So I am half Russian and half Nigerian, and my 128 00:06:21,505 --> 00:06:24,865 Speaker 4: appearance has been the one thing about me that has 129 00:06:25,025 --> 00:06:26,585 Speaker 4: always stood out like. 130 00:06:26,745 --> 00:06:29,905 Speaker 3: A sore thum So. I was born in what essentially 131 00:06:29,985 --> 00:06:31,825 Speaker 3: now is Ukraine, but back then we used to be 132 00:06:31,865 --> 00:06:34,705 Speaker 3: the ussr like Russia, fluent Russian. I was a new 133 00:06:34,865 --> 00:06:37,105 Speaker 3: black kid for like for towns. 134 00:06:37,625 --> 00:06:41,545 Speaker 4: My brother and I, so we've always stood out, and 135 00:06:41,785 --> 00:06:44,465 Speaker 4: same thing. When I moved at the age of seven 136 00:06:44,785 --> 00:06:47,145 Speaker 4: to Nigeria to be with my dad and that side 137 00:06:47,185 --> 00:06:49,745 Speaker 4: of the family, we stood out again because obviously we 138 00:06:49,745 --> 00:06:50,625 Speaker 4: were quote. 139 00:06:50,425 --> 00:06:52,305 Speaker 3: Unquote not black enough. 140 00:06:52,905 --> 00:06:55,425 Speaker 4: I've just always grown up with people looking at me 141 00:06:55,545 --> 00:06:59,025 Speaker 4: for very different reasons, right, and I have essentially been 142 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:04,865 Speaker 4: become very comfortable with that. I think subconsciously I started 143 00:07:05,065 --> 00:07:09,185 Speaker 4: to find pride and actual self discovering that when I 144 00:07:09,425 --> 00:07:10,185 Speaker 4: moved here. 145 00:07:10,705 --> 00:07:12,745 Speaker 3: I don't think there was anybody else like me in 146 00:07:12,825 --> 00:07:16,425 Speaker 3: my class. I loved wearing things I had. I was 147 00:07:16,425 --> 00:07:18,065 Speaker 3: the only one with a big path throat, and I 148 00:07:18,065 --> 00:07:20,425 Speaker 3: would diet red like it was one of these things. 149 00:07:20,905 --> 00:07:24,265 Speaker 4: My appearance was something that was so intrinsically part of 150 00:07:24,305 --> 00:07:27,545 Speaker 4: my identity, and I loved it because it allowed me 151 00:07:27,665 --> 00:07:29,305 Speaker 4: to kind of express myself. 152 00:07:29,625 --> 00:07:32,345 Speaker 3: I guess your personality could go one way of the other. 153 00:07:32,625 --> 00:07:37,985 Speaker 4: I completely went full throttle into like statement, I'm here. 154 00:07:38,665 --> 00:07:41,465 Speaker 3: You can't do anything about it. Look at me thing. 155 00:07:41,865 --> 00:07:45,985 Speaker 4: And as I have grown older, I have refined it 156 00:07:46,225 --> 00:07:48,825 Speaker 4: to find it and it's kind of always been a 157 00:07:48,905 --> 00:07:51,105 Speaker 4: part of me, like appearances power. 158 00:07:51,145 --> 00:07:52,665 Speaker 3: So if you're looking at me, I'm going to give 159 00:07:52,665 --> 00:07:54,105 Speaker 3: you something to look at. 160 00:07:54,545 --> 00:07:57,385 Speaker 2: I love that well. I honestly love looking at your Instagram. 161 00:07:57,385 --> 00:08:00,705 Speaker 2: I'm always so so inspired. And you've been styling people 162 00:08:00,745 --> 00:08:04,665 Speaker 2: for many years, What are sort of maybe three of 163 00:08:04,745 --> 00:08:08,465 Speaker 2: the points when you're styling people time and time again 164 00:08:08,545 --> 00:08:10,425 Speaker 2: that you're working with a new client. What are they 165 00:08:10,505 --> 00:08:13,665 Speaker 2: coming to you with, what is their problem with getting dressed? 166 00:08:13,665 --> 00:08:14,985 Speaker 1: And what are their inhibitions? 167 00:08:15,465 --> 00:08:21,105 Speaker 3: Most people literally don't know where to start. They think 168 00:08:21,145 --> 00:08:23,665 Speaker 3: that if they make this move about moves that they're 169 00:08:23,665 --> 00:08:26,105 Speaker 3: going to be wrong, they're doing the wrong thing, or 170 00:08:26,705 --> 00:08:30,825 Speaker 3: it's not right. It's that cold confidence thing. It's just 171 00:08:30,985 --> 00:08:34,305 Speaker 3: literally the starting point. And ladies, the way to get 172 00:08:34,345 --> 00:08:38,865 Speaker 3: confident at anything is to do that thing more. It's 173 00:08:38,905 --> 00:08:40,825 Speaker 3: the confidence content moove. 174 00:08:40,985 --> 00:08:43,585 Speaker 4: So you know, and if you do need some help 175 00:08:43,745 --> 00:08:46,025 Speaker 4: you don't know what your body type is or what 176 00:08:46,105 --> 00:08:48,425 Speaker 4: gene looks great on your body or all that, maybe 177 00:08:48,545 --> 00:08:50,545 Speaker 4: then you can actually go in store and get a 178 00:08:50,585 --> 00:08:52,545 Speaker 4: style and set about my old David Jones or one 179 00:08:52,585 --> 00:08:54,465 Speaker 4: of those people are trying to walk you through. 180 00:08:54,865 --> 00:08:57,665 Speaker 3: Some of those things are actually free to start you off. 181 00:08:58,145 --> 00:09:01,585 Speaker 4: But yeah, in my experience, people are very insecure about 182 00:09:01,665 --> 00:09:04,305 Speaker 4: where to start. They just don't trust that they know 183 00:09:04,985 --> 00:09:07,745 Speaker 4: what it is that looks great on them. 184 00:09:08,145 --> 00:09:10,425 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's overwhelming, Yeah it is. 185 00:09:10,825 --> 00:09:13,065 Speaker 3: And I can understand for people that don't. 186 00:09:13,105 --> 00:09:17,025 Speaker 4: There's so much advice, there's so much information out there, 187 00:09:17,265 --> 00:09:20,105 Speaker 4: and every single body is different. 188 00:09:20,305 --> 00:09:22,625 Speaker 1: And can you maybe look in too many places? 189 00:09:22,665 --> 00:09:25,025 Speaker 2: You know, I follow so many different fashion accounts that 190 00:09:25,105 --> 00:09:27,985 Speaker 2: maybe that's why my fashion is a little. 191 00:09:27,705 --> 00:09:29,225 Speaker 1: Bit erradic at the moment, because I'm like. 192 00:09:29,185 --> 00:09:31,985 Speaker 4: Oh, exactly, I actually think we set it up this 193 00:09:32,065 --> 00:09:36,065 Speaker 4: podcast with you asking me, you know, laying my three words. 194 00:09:36,265 --> 00:09:40,105 Speaker 4: That's really a good way to start. Like you have 195 00:09:40,185 --> 00:09:42,465 Speaker 4: a goal of what you want your appearance to be. 196 00:09:42,865 --> 00:09:45,425 Speaker 4: You know, what do I want to represent? And be honest, 197 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,825 Speaker 4: because you know, some people don't even want to like 198 00:09:48,025 --> 00:09:49,905 Speaker 4: tell you what it is that they want to achieve 199 00:09:49,985 --> 00:09:53,505 Speaker 4: with their appearance. Like some people want to look polished, 200 00:09:53,665 --> 00:09:56,785 Speaker 4: rich and strong. Some women want to do that. They 201 00:09:56,825 --> 00:09:59,025 Speaker 4: want to appear that way, but they can't. They they 202 00:09:59,025 --> 00:10:01,625 Speaker 4: don't want to say that because it makes them look 203 00:10:01,705 --> 00:10:04,465 Speaker 4: weird to say they want to look that way, right, 204 00:10:05,185 --> 00:10:08,425 Speaker 4: excavate that and glean that look at a few people, 205 00:10:08,585 --> 00:10:09,785 Speaker 4: and then kind. 206 00:10:09,705 --> 00:10:15,185 Speaker 3: Kind of like use that as your sort of compass. Basically, 207 00:10:15,225 --> 00:10:25,905 Speaker 3: when you're shopping, what if. 208 00:10:25,785 --> 00:10:28,345 Speaker 2: You're looking at someone and you think, I'd love to 209 00:10:28,425 --> 00:10:30,345 Speaker 2: dress like that, but I can't. You know, there is 210 00:10:30,425 --> 00:10:34,225 Speaker 2: inhibitions there because I often feel like I know my style, 211 00:10:34,265 --> 00:10:35,945 Speaker 2: but I do look at things like, oh, I would 212 00:10:36,065 --> 00:10:37,985 Speaker 2: love to be able to dress like her, but I can't. 213 00:10:38,025 --> 00:10:38,825 Speaker 1: That's an inhibition. 214 00:10:39,065 --> 00:10:43,105 Speaker 3: Okay. I actually think that everybody can wear everything and 215 00:10:43,465 --> 00:10:44,105 Speaker 3: people can do it. 216 00:10:44,145 --> 00:10:46,745 Speaker 4: If you get the proportions of whatever item you like 217 00:10:47,145 --> 00:10:49,785 Speaker 4: right to your body, you can actually carry that thing. 218 00:10:50,185 --> 00:10:53,025 Speaker 3: I really think on is all about balance and proportion. 219 00:10:53,105 --> 00:10:55,585 Speaker 4: When the eye looks at something, If something looks off, 220 00:10:55,625 --> 00:10:59,385 Speaker 4: it's because it's off balance, rather like it's too tired, 221 00:10:59,505 --> 00:11:02,305 Speaker 4: too short to pully here or there. 222 00:11:02,625 --> 00:11:04,305 Speaker 3: If you can get those fires. 223 00:11:04,025 --> 00:11:07,665 Speaker 4: Right and you think basically where everything. I think argued 224 00:11:07,665 --> 00:11:11,145 Speaker 4: about this and television before. Angela Bishop always used to 225 00:11:11,145 --> 00:11:13,265 Speaker 4: tell me that she could have wear wrap. 226 00:11:13,105 --> 00:11:15,385 Speaker 1: Dress, classic, wrap dress, classic. 227 00:11:15,665 --> 00:11:19,025 Speaker 3: Like everybody's like the classic woman. But that's the worst 228 00:11:19,065 --> 00:11:21,265 Speaker 3: thing that I can wear because. 229 00:11:20,945 --> 00:11:23,625 Speaker 4: It wraps around my boobs and I have really big booths, 230 00:11:23,665 --> 00:11:24,065 Speaker 4: and like. 231 00:11:24,065 --> 00:11:26,425 Speaker 3: I don't need that highlighted. 232 00:11:26,745 --> 00:11:29,025 Speaker 4: But I'm like, okay, well, what if we take the 233 00:11:29,025 --> 00:11:32,305 Speaker 4: class the wrap dress and actually not make the v 234 00:11:32,505 --> 00:11:33,425 Speaker 4: drop so low? 235 00:11:34,385 --> 00:11:38,065 Speaker 3: You could definitely with two twigs here and there, make 236 00:11:38,105 --> 00:11:40,105 Speaker 3: it a big shorter to show off your legs. 237 00:11:40,265 --> 00:11:42,945 Speaker 4: And that's a really yeah good part of like you 238 00:11:42,945 --> 00:11:45,545 Speaker 4: know what you like and then that outfit all of 239 00:11:45,585 --> 00:11:47,585 Speaker 4: a sudden becomes. 240 00:11:47,105 --> 00:11:49,305 Speaker 3: More flattering on you. So it's all about playing with 241 00:11:49,345 --> 00:11:50,625 Speaker 3: the outfit itself as. 242 00:11:50,505 --> 00:11:52,865 Speaker 2: Well with anything in life. If you always tell yourself 243 00:11:52,865 --> 00:11:54,665 Speaker 2: you can't, then you won't. But I think it's just 244 00:11:54,745 --> 00:11:57,625 Speaker 2: about trying. Even if you just go with yourself and 245 00:11:57,665 --> 00:11:59,505 Speaker 2: don't tell anyone and go to the shops and try 246 00:11:59,545 --> 00:12:01,225 Speaker 2: on a bunch of stuff that you never thought you would, 247 00:12:01,225 --> 00:12:02,785 Speaker 2: you don't have to buy it. At least you've tried 248 00:12:02,825 --> 00:12:03,825 Speaker 2: it on and given it a go. 249 00:12:03,985 --> 00:12:04,865 Speaker 3: And that's right. 250 00:12:05,185 --> 00:12:06,265 Speaker 1: It can be a process. 251 00:12:06,425 --> 00:12:08,185 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be, you know, just being all 252 00:12:08,225 --> 00:12:11,145 Speaker 2: of a sudden totally confident to wear everything, because I 253 00:12:11,145 --> 00:12:14,265 Speaker 2: think you know, everyone's got individual inhibitions and stories they 254 00:12:14,305 --> 00:12:16,345 Speaker 2: tell themselves. But if you keep telling yourself I can't 255 00:12:16,345 --> 00:12:18,225 Speaker 2: wear that or I can't do that, then. 256 00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:21,025 Speaker 3: You won't be able to again. It's that whole point, 257 00:12:21,145 --> 00:12:23,265 Speaker 3: like I'm not confident enough to do it. You've told 258 00:12:23,305 --> 00:12:23,745 Speaker 3: yourself no. 259 00:12:23,905 --> 00:12:27,625 Speaker 4: But what is the biggest way of you getting confidence 260 00:12:27,665 --> 00:12:28,505 Speaker 4: at anything? 261 00:12:28,785 --> 00:12:31,865 Speaker 3: And shopping and stud is about doing that thing. You 262 00:12:31,865 --> 00:12:35,425 Speaker 3: get into the confidence competence loop. Right. The more you 263 00:12:35,585 --> 00:12:38,065 Speaker 3: go out and the more you try those things, and 264 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:40,185 Speaker 3: the more you look into it, and the more you 265 00:12:40,265 --> 00:12:43,465 Speaker 3: try and give yourself a chance to explore, the. 266 00:12:43,465 --> 00:12:46,745 Speaker 4: More confident, the more comfortable you've become, the more competent 267 00:12:46,905 --> 00:12:47,705 Speaker 4: you become at it. 268 00:12:47,985 --> 00:12:50,105 Speaker 2: We hear a lot on this podcast that people do 269 00:12:50,145 --> 00:12:51,505 Speaker 2: find it tricky to find their. 270 00:12:51,345 --> 00:12:53,865 Speaker 1: Style or they might get stuck in a style rut. 271 00:12:53,945 --> 00:12:57,625 Speaker 2: And then you know, life events, becoming a mum, perimenopause, 272 00:12:57,945 --> 00:13:01,545 Speaker 2: moving lots of different things can kind of upturn your 273 00:13:01,585 --> 00:13:05,905 Speaker 2: life and change your style and your fashion. So what 274 00:13:05,945 --> 00:13:09,785 Speaker 2: do people do if they suddenly just feel like they 275 00:13:09,825 --> 00:13:11,385 Speaker 2: don't know who they are and how to dress? 276 00:13:11,465 --> 00:13:13,225 Speaker 1: Is it about assessing their lifestyle. 277 00:13:14,705 --> 00:13:17,865 Speaker 3: Everybody is looking for their personal style. They're going to 278 00:13:17,905 --> 00:13:19,345 Speaker 3: capture this personal. 279 00:13:19,025 --> 00:13:20,545 Speaker 4: Style and they're going to put it in a jar 280 00:13:20,705 --> 00:13:23,545 Speaker 4: and they're going to have it forever, a personal style. 281 00:13:24,065 --> 00:13:27,025 Speaker 3: And the thing is, as you've just mentioned, there's so 282 00:13:27,345 --> 00:13:31,305 Speaker 3: many things happen to us, so many things. We evolve 283 00:13:31,465 --> 00:13:33,905 Speaker 3: as women, or we grow hopefully grown. 284 00:13:33,945 --> 00:13:37,865 Speaker 4: Changeable experience, we become different people, and so your style 285 00:13:38,225 --> 00:13:42,025 Speaker 4: really truly has to grow, evolve and develop with you. 286 00:13:42,105 --> 00:13:44,465 Speaker 4: It's not something that you just get a one time 287 00:13:44,545 --> 00:13:47,625 Speaker 4: And obviously you have to assess where you are in 288 00:13:47,665 --> 00:13:50,025 Speaker 4: your life, what period of life you're in. 289 00:13:50,505 --> 00:13:53,665 Speaker 3: There's no point dressing like somebody that's in the office, 290 00:13:53,705 --> 00:13:55,985 Speaker 3: in the city, at events every day while waste of 291 00:13:55,985 --> 00:13:58,465 Speaker 3: your time you spend your kids winning around. 292 00:13:58,745 --> 00:14:00,305 Speaker 2: You have to sit down and I guess, look at 293 00:14:00,305 --> 00:14:03,425 Speaker 2: your wardrobe in relation to your life and mind changed 294 00:14:03,705 --> 00:14:05,945 Speaker 2: so much. I mean, you go to a lot of events. Still, 295 00:14:05,985 --> 00:14:08,225 Speaker 2: we both work in media, so it's not the normal job. 296 00:14:08,265 --> 00:14:10,425 Speaker 2: But I used to go to so many more events 297 00:14:10,465 --> 00:14:11,985 Speaker 2: than I do these days. And then I think that's 298 00:14:11,985 --> 00:14:13,585 Speaker 2: when I became a mom. I was like, oh, well, 299 00:14:13,585 --> 00:14:16,945 Speaker 2: all those bodycon dresses don't really work feeding a toddler, 300 00:14:17,465 --> 00:14:20,345 Speaker 2: so you've got to reevaluate. 301 00:14:19,585 --> 00:14:24,025 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I love the havular Jess called. 302 00:14:24,065 --> 00:14:26,465 Speaker 4: I kind of even remember in different college to remember 303 00:14:26,505 --> 00:14:28,425 Speaker 4: what I'm talking about those bando dresses. 304 00:14:28,665 --> 00:14:30,185 Speaker 1: Yes I do, yeah, yeah, yeah. 305 00:14:30,185 --> 00:14:33,345 Speaker 4: If I could pull it up, which it's not representative 306 00:14:33,425 --> 00:14:35,545 Speaker 4: on and right now, do you know what I mean? 307 00:14:35,585 --> 00:14:38,305 Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like that's a bit fache. 308 00:14:38,345 --> 00:14:40,865 Speaker 4: You know, maybe I'm so in touch with what I 309 00:14:41,145 --> 00:14:43,865 Speaker 4: like now that just seems nonpalsible. 310 00:14:44,385 --> 00:14:44,585 Speaker 3: Yeah. 311 00:14:44,745 --> 00:14:47,105 Speaker 2: No, I'm totally with you. And you've said, you know, 312 00:14:47,265 --> 00:14:49,625 Speaker 2: find the story in your style. So I think if 313 00:14:49,625 --> 00:14:52,625 Speaker 2: you've sat down, you've kind of assessed your lifestyle, You've 314 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:54,905 Speaker 2: worked out sort of the vibe you want. Maybe you've 315 00:14:54,945 --> 00:14:58,625 Speaker 2: even pinpointed a couple of celebrities or women of note 316 00:14:58,665 --> 00:15:01,705 Speaker 2: that you really enjoy their style or their vibe. I 317 00:15:01,825 --> 00:15:03,345 Speaker 2: used to get stuck in a rut. I had four 318 00:15:03,425 --> 00:15:05,065 Speaker 2: or five shops that I loved, and so I kind 319 00:15:05,065 --> 00:15:07,265 Speaker 2: of only went into those shops and went into those websites. 320 00:15:07,305 --> 00:15:09,545 Speaker 1: But I think my style evolved. 321 00:15:09,065 --> 00:15:12,065 Speaker 2: When I let go of my inhibitions to go into 322 00:15:12,465 --> 00:15:14,745 Speaker 2: stores that were quote unquote for younger people. You know, 323 00:15:14,785 --> 00:15:18,105 Speaker 2: I love shopping in glassons or the fancy section of 324 00:15:18,145 --> 00:15:20,905 Speaker 2: the department store just to try stuff on. Is it 325 00:15:21,065 --> 00:15:24,945 Speaker 2: trying different shops, different brands, different websites to kind of 326 00:15:24,985 --> 00:15:26,825 Speaker 2: broaden the repertoire to choose from. 327 00:15:26,905 --> 00:15:29,745 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. I actually always feel like you 328 00:15:29,785 --> 00:15:33,905 Speaker 3: should have your me meal, so like your normal stores 329 00:15:33,945 --> 00:15:36,625 Speaker 3: would be your me meal, right, and those ones that 330 00:15:36,705 --> 00:15:39,865 Speaker 3: you could be a dessert and your drinks after. Like, 331 00:15:40,025 --> 00:15:40,585 Speaker 3: I'm the same. 332 00:15:40,665 --> 00:15:44,705 Speaker 4: I have a few things, a few brands whose design 333 00:15:45,705 --> 00:15:51,185 Speaker 4: so currently personally I love for some reason, whoever is 334 00:15:51,265 --> 00:15:55,945 Speaker 4: designing our math right now, everything that they are just 335 00:15:56,025 --> 00:15:58,265 Speaker 4: bringing out, I'm like, I want that trench, I want 336 00:15:58,305 --> 00:16:03,345 Speaker 4: those pans, Like really into those ousie brands, right, So 337 00:16:03,425 --> 00:16:07,305 Speaker 4: I would say you, currently that's my main meal. But 338 00:16:07,585 --> 00:16:11,465 Speaker 4: let me just tell you, I will be going into Zara, 339 00:16:11,505 --> 00:16:14,265 Speaker 4: and I will be going into Husk and I will 340 00:16:14,305 --> 00:16:17,945 Speaker 4: be going into Country Road and a witch tree as well, 341 00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:21,705 Speaker 4: because they quite frequently would have what I'm looking for, 342 00:16:22,505 --> 00:16:24,745 Speaker 4: So yeah, try something different. 343 00:16:24,825 --> 00:16:27,425 Speaker 3: It's kind of like dating. For example, I never would 344 00:16:27,465 --> 00:16:29,945 Speaker 3: have ended up with my husband if I actually had 345 00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:31,145 Speaker 3: to choose them for myself. 346 00:16:31,185 --> 00:16:34,065 Speaker 4: I had to, you know, just venture out on you know, 347 00:16:34,145 --> 00:16:36,305 Speaker 4: suggestion from my best friend. 348 00:16:36,545 --> 00:16:39,905 Speaker 3: And it worked out because I would never. 349 00:16:39,825 --> 00:16:41,665 Speaker 4: Feel like if we met by ourselves at a club, 350 00:16:41,705 --> 00:16:44,225 Speaker 4: we both say, well, would never have approached each other 351 00:16:44,265 --> 00:16:46,945 Speaker 4: because it's like we weren't looking there to start with. 352 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:49,745 Speaker 3: But you never know what you can find and you 353 00:16:49,905 --> 00:16:50,505 Speaker 3: look out. 354 00:16:50,345 --> 00:16:53,505 Speaker 2: Of that you know, Yeah, exactly if you tell yourself no, 355 00:16:53,625 --> 00:16:54,865 Speaker 2: that's always going to be answer. 356 00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:57,185 Speaker 1: I want to talk about maybe inhibitions. 357 00:16:57,225 --> 00:17:00,065 Speaker 2: People might have to wear a certain item that they love, 358 00:17:00,345 --> 00:17:03,385 Speaker 2: but to wear it more or in a different way. 359 00:17:03,465 --> 00:17:06,545 Speaker 2: For example, lots of people go to a lot of weddings. 360 00:17:06,585 --> 00:17:08,065 Speaker 2: I mean, you and I go to work events, but 361 00:17:08,105 --> 00:17:10,825 Speaker 2: the average person doesn't general go to a lot of events. 362 00:17:10,865 --> 00:17:12,785 Speaker 2: But they might have some beautiful dresses they've worn to 363 00:17:12,825 --> 00:17:15,545 Speaker 2: a wedding or a ball, and what I'm loving I'm 364 00:17:15,545 --> 00:17:18,625 Speaker 2: seeing in twenty twenty four is people are wearing sort 365 00:17:18,665 --> 00:17:23,305 Speaker 2: of statement dressing and dresses in the most unexpected ways. 366 00:17:23,345 --> 00:17:26,465 Speaker 2: You know, they're putting a sweater over a formal dress 367 00:17:26,505 --> 00:17:28,745 Speaker 2: to just highlight the skirt with sneakers. So do you 368 00:17:28,785 --> 00:17:32,585 Speaker 2: think there is a way people can kind of get 369 00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:34,705 Speaker 2: that out of their head and just experiment more and 370 00:17:34,905 --> 00:17:37,225 Speaker 2: therefore wear more of their wardrobe. If they have got 371 00:17:37,225 --> 00:17:39,825 Speaker 2: some formal things that were for a particular occasion, how 372 00:17:39,825 --> 00:17:42,225 Speaker 2: can they give them self permission to mix that up 373 00:17:42,265 --> 00:17:43,465 Speaker 2: and wear it out on the street. 374 00:17:43,985 --> 00:17:47,185 Speaker 4: There's anything about the way fashion and style has gone 375 00:17:47,265 --> 00:17:50,825 Speaker 4: the right now is like there really aren't no wars. 376 00:17:50,905 --> 00:17:52,985 Speaker 3: This is the best time ever. 377 00:17:52,865 --> 00:17:56,345 Speaker 4: I think where you can definitely think out of the 378 00:17:56,425 --> 00:17:59,465 Speaker 4: box and try very different things. 379 00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:04,785 Speaker 3: If you have worn a dress and aid simple brides 380 00:18:04,865 --> 00:18:06,425 Speaker 3: meat stress, there is. 381 00:18:06,465 --> 00:18:09,385 Speaker 4: Absolutely no reason for you not to kind of tricky 382 00:18:09,905 --> 00:18:12,705 Speaker 4: bit maybe even diet in diofferent color, or maybe you 383 00:18:12,865 --> 00:18:15,665 Speaker 4: wear it with something else. It doesn't make it as dressy. 384 00:18:15,985 --> 00:18:19,945 Speaker 4: And for sure you could just definitely like think to yourself, 385 00:18:20,105 --> 00:18:22,505 Speaker 4: like where else or how else can I change this 386 00:18:22,825 --> 00:18:26,985 Speaker 4: up to make it more suitable for life? 387 00:18:27,065 --> 00:18:30,665 Speaker 3: After the wording basically and get more wear out of it. 388 00:18:30,745 --> 00:18:33,105 Speaker 4: You'll make sure and I don't know, cut it, make 389 00:18:33,145 --> 00:18:35,425 Speaker 4: it in me me dress or put a slit in it, 390 00:18:35,625 --> 00:18:36,785 Speaker 4: like just for me. 391 00:18:36,905 --> 00:18:39,865 Speaker 2: I've got this beautiful sequin slip dress, so it's silver, 392 00:18:40,105 --> 00:18:43,665 Speaker 2: and I really wanted like a glittery skirt for winter, 393 00:18:43,745 --> 00:18:45,225 Speaker 2: but I thought, I'm not going to buy a glotory skirt. 394 00:18:45,265 --> 00:18:46,945 Speaker 2: I'm just going to put a really beautiful gray jumper 395 00:18:46,985 --> 00:18:49,105 Speaker 2: over the top and there, Hey, presto, I've turned my 396 00:18:49,185 --> 00:18:51,865 Speaker 2: evening dress into a really cool skirt that I can 397 00:18:51,865 --> 00:18:52,665 Speaker 2: wear out and about. 398 00:18:52,945 --> 00:18:54,545 Speaker 3: That's another way of doing things. 399 00:18:54,785 --> 00:18:58,465 Speaker 4: If you're trying to weart something statemental but like kind 400 00:18:58,505 --> 00:19:01,145 Speaker 4: of not sure how to do it, it's kind of 401 00:19:01,225 --> 00:19:03,985 Speaker 4: like play this statement versus the casual. 402 00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:07,705 Speaker 3: So just the way you've actually styled that sound so hot. 403 00:19:07,745 --> 00:19:10,585 Speaker 1: It's like play this statement versu is the casual? 404 00:19:10,665 --> 00:19:16,025 Speaker 4: I love that so notional and like effortlessless stylish, like me, 405 00:19:16,225 --> 00:19:17,225 Speaker 4: what are you talking about? 406 00:19:17,345 --> 00:19:20,785 Speaker 3: I am just so naturally sashionable. 407 00:19:20,505 --> 00:19:23,185 Speaker 2: And I'm wearing this to Alworth on a Tuesday afternoon. 408 00:19:23,225 --> 00:19:24,065 Speaker 1: What are you looking at? 409 00:19:24,385 --> 00:19:27,905 Speaker 4: And also sometimes you actually inspire people to go like well, 410 00:19:27,985 --> 00:19:30,225 Speaker 4: I really like that, and actually really then to think 411 00:19:30,265 --> 00:19:30,945 Speaker 4: that maybe. 412 00:19:30,905 --> 00:19:34,065 Speaker 3: I can do something like that, and yes we can. 413 00:19:34,185 --> 00:19:34,545 Speaker 3: Why not? 414 00:19:46,585 --> 00:19:49,625 Speaker 1: It's very expensive? How wondred these? 415 00:19:52,865 --> 00:19:53,225 Speaker 3: All? Right? 416 00:19:53,225 --> 00:19:55,705 Speaker 2: Onto bougie and budget the best part of the show. 417 00:19:55,785 --> 00:19:57,825 Speaker 2: So this is where we bring something that's a little 418 00:19:57,825 --> 00:20:00,465 Speaker 2: bit more spendy and something that's a bit affordable. So 419 00:20:00,945 --> 00:20:03,745 Speaker 2: in the theme of this episode, it's a kind of like, oh, 420 00:20:03,745 --> 00:20:06,345 Speaker 2: I shouldn't or I couldn't wear that or buy that? 421 00:20:07,145 --> 00:20:08,945 Speaker 2: Do you want to go first with your budget? 422 00:20:09,225 --> 00:20:10,385 Speaker 3: I have two things. 423 00:20:10,625 --> 00:20:14,025 Speaker 4: One is statemente and the other one is not really 424 00:20:14,065 --> 00:20:18,585 Speaker 4: statementy ballet flats. So if you are into the ballet 425 00:20:18,705 --> 00:20:21,585 Speaker 4: flats or like that whole ballet trend, I'm not going 426 00:20:21,625 --> 00:20:24,785 Speaker 4: to go to people my feet away to if you 427 00:20:24,865 --> 00:20:27,385 Speaker 4: wear a size forty and over, I'm being to pull 428 00:20:27,385 --> 00:20:29,985 Speaker 4: off a ballet flat must really be tall or something. 429 00:20:31,505 --> 00:20:37,385 Speaker 4: We started leather ballet flat that actually, yes, that started off. 430 00:20:37,225 --> 00:20:39,825 Speaker 3: The whole trend. For those of us that have two 431 00:20:39,825 --> 00:20:42,025 Speaker 3: thousand dollars to spend. 432 00:20:41,225 --> 00:20:42,865 Speaker 1: They're not cheap. 433 00:20:44,705 --> 00:20:47,265 Speaker 2: They range from about one thousand, four hundred to one 434 00:20:47,305 --> 00:20:49,825 Speaker 2: thousand eight hundred, depending of the studs and the satin 435 00:20:49,865 --> 00:20:52,705 Speaker 2: and the buckles. They're all very expensive. 436 00:20:52,785 --> 00:20:55,705 Speaker 3: That's right. So maybe I'm not even giving any any 437 00:20:55,905 --> 00:20:56,505 Speaker 3: like new. 438 00:20:56,385 --> 00:21:00,225 Speaker 4: Gus here, but I found I love that Tony Biano 439 00:21:00,985 --> 00:21:06,065 Speaker 4: has literally the same range of like designs in those 440 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:09,745 Speaker 4: like with plant differences to the I don't think the 441 00:21:09,825 --> 00:21:12,265 Speaker 4: normal eye can pick up mini somewhere in the song 442 00:21:12,385 --> 00:21:16,385 Speaker 4: somewhere they have ranging from one hundred and fifty dollars 443 00:21:16,425 --> 00:21:18,065 Speaker 4: to one and eight dollars. 444 00:21:18,105 --> 00:21:20,465 Speaker 3: So that's your jam. 445 00:21:20,665 --> 00:21:22,785 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you've won the lotto, you can go 446 00:21:22,865 --> 00:21:27,225 Speaker 2: for the original. Otherwise good old Tony Bianco. Well, my 447 00:21:27,505 --> 00:21:30,345 Speaker 2: saving is something that I've told myself I can't wear, 448 00:21:30,585 --> 00:21:34,305 Speaker 2: but maybe I can. So it's an affordable miniskirt. It's 449 00:21:34,305 --> 00:21:36,745 Speaker 2: just from the iconic from that brand, Daisy. It's called 450 00:21:36,745 --> 00:21:40,705 Speaker 2: the Understated Slit detailed miniskirt, and look, I wear miniskirts 451 00:21:40,705 --> 00:21:43,185 Speaker 2: and mini dresses, but this is quite mini because. 452 00:21:42,945 --> 00:21:44,025 Speaker 1: It's got a little slitch. 453 00:21:44,625 --> 00:21:47,505 Speaker 2: But I saw, speaking of people's vibes, I saw this 454 00:21:47,665 --> 00:21:50,065 Speaker 2: amazing photo of this woman on Instagram that I saved, 455 00:21:50,065 --> 00:21:51,985 Speaker 2: and she had a little mini on, but then she 456 00:21:52,025 --> 00:21:54,385 Speaker 2: had a really big oversized business shirt to the point 457 00:21:54,385 --> 00:21:57,145 Speaker 2: where the shirt even sort of stuck out under the skirt. 458 00:21:57,825 --> 00:21:59,065 Speaker 1: It was very cool. 459 00:21:59,425 --> 00:22:03,905 Speaker 3: I love that. Again, I have an image we're talking 460 00:22:03,945 --> 00:22:06,785 Speaker 3: about saved folder. 461 00:22:07,185 --> 00:22:09,065 Speaker 2: I'm going to let go of my inhibitions and tell 462 00:22:09,105 --> 00:22:11,265 Speaker 2: myself I can wear this. So this skirt comes in 463 00:22:11,385 --> 00:22:15,185 Speaker 2: black and also like a butter yellow and a sandy beige. 464 00:22:15,225 --> 00:22:17,585 Speaker 2: It's sixty nine to ninety five, so it's a good 465 00:22:18,145 --> 00:22:20,145 Speaker 2: way for me to let go of my inhibitions and 466 00:22:20,185 --> 00:22:24,305 Speaker 2: try this mini with an oversized shirt tucked in vibe. 467 00:22:24,665 --> 00:22:25,785 Speaker 1: That's quite affordable. 468 00:22:26,305 --> 00:22:29,945 Speaker 2: And then my spendee is definitely I couldn't not because 469 00:22:29,985 --> 00:22:31,745 Speaker 2: I couldn't wear it. I'd love to wear it, but 470 00:22:31,785 --> 00:22:35,065 Speaker 2: it's way too expensive for what it is. It's the 471 00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:39,585 Speaker 2: Blanker Hailey trench in gold. It is like a floor 472 00:22:39,705 --> 00:22:43,945 Speaker 2: length shiny gold trench coat. It would look amazing on you, 473 00:22:44,025 --> 00:22:46,185 Speaker 2: my friend, but it is five hundred and eighty dollars, 474 00:22:46,785 --> 00:22:49,225 Speaker 2: so I'm not going to purchase it. But if we're 475 00:22:49,265 --> 00:22:54,105 Speaker 2: talking letting go of inhibitions and being confident, this blaze up. 476 00:22:54,225 --> 00:22:58,105 Speaker 2: This trench says something before you've finished walking into the room. 477 00:22:58,265 --> 00:23:01,385 Speaker 2: Blanka makes divine like oversized shirts and other itemis, but 478 00:23:01,425 --> 00:23:03,025 Speaker 2: this it's just the coolest. 479 00:23:02,745 --> 00:23:03,505 Speaker 1: Drench in gold. 480 00:23:04,065 --> 00:23:06,625 Speaker 2: I could be any vibe and with that vibe have 481 00:23:06,705 --> 00:23:07,585 Speaker 2: any budget, I. 482 00:23:07,505 --> 00:23:09,625 Speaker 1: Would buy it, but it's a little bit out of it. 483 00:23:10,225 --> 00:23:12,145 Speaker 1: But it's all back to the episode. 484 00:23:12,185 --> 00:23:14,185 Speaker 2: That's, you know, letting go of your inhibitions, wearing what 485 00:23:14,225 --> 00:23:17,705 Speaker 2: you want to wear, wearing the fancy shiny things more 486 00:23:17,745 --> 00:23:20,185 Speaker 2: than just once. So it's beautiful jacket. So I'll have 487 00:23:20,225 --> 00:23:22,465 Speaker 2: to send you a link. But Victoria, thank you so 488 00:23:22,545 --> 00:23:24,545 Speaker 2: much for chatting. I love your style and I just 489 00:23:24,585 --> 00:23:26,865 Speaker 2: love your confidence and the confidence you give other women. 490 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:27,985 Speaker 1: So thank you so much. 491 00:23:28,345 --> 00:23:29,825 Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you for having me. 492 00:23:29,865 --> 00:23:33,705 Speaker 4: You're truly one of the nicest, moist, generous people. I 493 00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:35,505 Speaker 4: haven't and the fact that you just said we met 494 00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:37,265 Speaker 4: once actually shocked me. 495 00:23:37,665 --> 00:23:40,105 Speaker 1: It's Instagram. We all know each other. 496 00:23:41,025 --> 00:23:43,865 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Now, don't forget. 497 00:23:43,905 --> 00:23:45,905 Speaker 2: There's a link in our show notes to our Nothing 498 00:23:45,905 --> 00:23:48,705 Speaker 2: to Wear newsletter. It's free at lant in your inbox 499 00:23:48,745 --> 00:23:51,745 Speaker 2: and there is pretty pictures and links to buy, and 500 00:23:51,905 --> 00:23:55,145 Speaker 2: everything we've chatted about today isn't there. And if you 501 00:23:55,225 --> 00:23:58,465 Speaker 2: lost this episode talking about how close could make you feel, 502 00:23:58,785 --> 00:24:01,505 Speaker 2: I think you'll really enjoy the episode I did with 503 00:24:01,625 --> 00:24:05,105 Speaker 2: Jessica Vandalay all about dopamine dressing, so we've popped a 504 00:24:05,145 --> 00:24:06,585 Speaker 2: link in the show notes to that one. 505 00:24:06,425 --> 00:24:08,065 Speaker 1: Too, and I'll see you next week. 506 00:24:08,825 --> 00:24:12,625 Speaker 2: This episode produced by Grace Roubray with audio production. 507 00:24:12,305 --> 00:24:13,305 Speaker 1: By Tiagan Sudler. 508 00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:17,865 Speaker 2: This podcast is powered by our subscribers. 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