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Speaker 2: From Mama Mia. Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm m Vernham and I'm Laura Brednick. On

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Speaker 2: the show today we are talking about our most unexpected

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Speaker 2: celebrity feud, especially one that's in the news recently, and

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Speaker 2: of course Weekend Watch.

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Speaker 1: But first speaking things that have happened recently. A nightmare,

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Speaker 1: a literal nightmare in my case, so I cannot forget

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Speaker 1: about our prefaces by saying this did happen a few

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Speaker 1: days ago, but I can't stop thinking about it, and

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Speaker 1: has taken over the internet, TikTok and news stories, follow

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Speaker 1: And then it's the fact that Taylor Monson, better known

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Speaker 1: lead of a rock band called The Pretty Reckless, was

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Speaker 1: performing in Spain. So she's up on stage. She's in

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Speaker 1: been like crazy successful, so like everyone's filming her over

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Speaker 1: and singing along. Everyone's going off. She's on stage, she's

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Speaker 1: because obviously everyone's filming her at the point of her

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Speaker 1: singing this song, and she's on stage and a bat,

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Speaker 1: a real life flying bat, flies across the stage and

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Speaker 1: lands smack on her leg and like grips on, holds

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Speaker 1: thing is Taylor little clause.

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Speaker 3: It's a little.

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Speaker 1: Backclaws, and she's in the moment, she's singing. She's a professional.

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Speaker 1: She does not notice that a bat has attached itself

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Speaker 2: She was in a like alaric state.

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Speaker 1: And then as soon as it happened, everyone starts screaming

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Speaker 1: the audience and says, I don't know what you're all

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Speaker 1: and rips that bat from my leg. She just sends

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Speaker 2: I've seen so many different angles and povs from that

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Speaker 2: in the crowd and the bat lands on her leg

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Speaker 1: Goes, ooh, can I say, did this happened quite a

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Speaker 1: That night, I had a terrible dream that I was

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Speaker 1: being like I'm okay. She's like did have to go

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, this thing is literally on another level.

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Speaker 2: After that video, because I think I was looking at

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Speaker 1: I don't want to cock I'd so much rather a

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. A new fear unlooked. I've got some breaking

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Speaker 1: Oh so much breaking news space that's now what else.

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Speaker 2: Maria Marghley's oh has beef with Lily Allen.

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Speaker 1: I can see that, so Miriam, you might.

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Speaker 2: Us, well just leave him there, right home we go.

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Speaker 2: She's extremely hilarious. She's comedian. She's known for her really

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Speaker 2: in stitches. And Lily Allen is a British singer songwriter.

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Speaker 2: What's that song that she sang that everyone loves?

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Speaker 1: She's had a whole bunch of bangingsle was her first file.

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Speaker 2: She named British singer Lily Allen in her answer, and

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Speaker 2: she was referring to a twenty fourteen appearance they both

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Speaker 2: and I didn't like that, and so I showed my dislike,

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Speaker 2: which wasn't very nice to me because she was much

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not as spicy as it could have been,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously she's a really celebrated actress and

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Speaker 1: outrightly said the reason that she gets invited all the

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Speaker 1: time to be an extra person on The Graham Norton

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Speaker 1: someone to come in or anything like that, is because

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Speaker 1: she's so good on that show, because she tells the

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Speaker 1: wildest story. She's got perfect comedic timing. She has this

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Speaker 2: Like I love her interviews, I find her really funny,

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Speaker 2: but I actually just genuinely felt really bad for Lily

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Speaker 1: Like clip, you will know Lily songs. I promise you will, Darling.

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Speaker 2: I'm seventy two.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about songs and singing, but I know

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Speaker 2: But then the way she presented Lily Allen was like

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Speaker 2: she didn't like me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess we don't know what happened backstage.

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Speaker 1: Once the cameras stopped and they're on the couch and

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think of that, but I just feel

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Speaker 1: I'm sure she's fine.

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Speaker 2: So, Laura, you've been in this industry for a while,

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Speaker 2: surely there are some other celebrity feuds that you've come across.

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Speaker 1: There's so many obviously, and as I was going through

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Speaker 1: We were looking for, yeah, we were looking for unexpected,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say the feud between Doja Cat and

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Speaker 1: I remember they had a feud. So what happened was

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Speaker 1: Doja Cat messaged Noah. I think they maybe did know

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Speaker 1: You're young. You make mistakes, you do dumb shit. I'm

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Speaker 1: a private conversation between me and him. It's so unbelievable,

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Speaker 2: Like, that's like borderline snake shit.

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Speaker 1: So we don't know if they're still friends now or

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Speaker 1: if they're still having beef. But yeah, a very unexpected

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't know if they're still friends. I

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Speaker 2: remember when this happened to you, You'll get right on.

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Speaker 2: I'll listen to this episode. We're still talking about it.

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Speaker 2: I also have one.

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Speaker 2: Mine's not as unexpected, but it's one that nearly derailed

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Speaker 1: Oh geez.

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Speaker 2: My favorite unexpected celebrity feud is between Dune the Rock

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Speaker 1: This is my favorite feuds of all time, and can

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Speaker 1: I say yes, I'm obsessed with it because I obviously

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Speaker 1: such a public SmackDown and war of words and such

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Speaker 2: It's so true. So both of them appear in the

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Speaker 1: What guilt? Alas something's broken inside of me and I

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Speaker 1: And it stars Jessica Chastain and Anne Hathaway as the

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Speaker 1: You guys are in for a really intense weekend. Break

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Speaker 2: So I'm recommending Dark Matter on Apple TV.

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Speaker 1: but we have plenty of amazing Spill episodes we've been

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