1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:25,984 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. 4 00:00:26,064 --> 00:00:29,064 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm 5 00:00:29,144 --> 00:00:32,504 Speaker 1: Laura Brodnick and I'm ambam and on today's show, it 6 00:00:32,624 --> 00:00:36,384 Speaker 1: is the upset, the conspiracy theory that has rocked the nation. 7 00:00:37,344 --> 00:00:39,704 Speaker 1: Not since I think, you know, back to Australian Idol 8 00:00:39,784 --> 00:00:42,624 Speaker 1: voting days when people were robbed. Has people been so 9 00:00:42,784 --> 00:00:47,584 Speaker 1: upset calling about Guy Sebastian. Yeah, Shannonnsey is just like 10 00:00:47,624 --> 00:00:49,864 Speaker 1: this is I've been through this. We are, of course 11 00:00:49,904 --> 00:00:52,944 Speaker 1: talking about the man who was named Sexiest Man Alive 12 00:00:53,024 --> 00:00:56,024 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four, young John Krasinski, who did not 13 00:00:56,264 --> 00:00:58,504 Speaker 1: know the backlash he was in for. But like, there's 14 00:00:58,584 --> 00:01:00,944 Speaker 1: quite a bit conspiracy behind this. There's some facts about 15 00:01:00,944 --> 00:01:04,984 Speaker 1: the competition. Another magazine swooped in and stole their thunder. 16 00:01:05,024 --> 00:01:06,184 Speaker 1: We're going to get into all that. 17 00:01:06,704 --> 00:01:09,984 Speaker 3: But first, a few days ago we were granted a 18 00:01:09,984 --> 00:01:13,304 Speaker 3: little early Christmas gift. We were given the trailer for 19 00:01:13,384 --> 00:01:17,704 Speaker 3: the new Bridget Jones film. It's called Mad About the Boy, 20 00:01:18,104 --> 00:01:20,984 Speaker 3: and the fact that she still does these. I'm like, 21 00:01:21,064 --> 00:01:23,344 Speaker 3: you are one of the girls. She's just one of 22 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:25,384 Speaker 3: the girls. She knows what we want and then she 23 00:01:25,424 --> 00:01:26,064 Speaker 3: gives it to us. 24 00:01:26,184 --> 00:01:28,104 Speaker 1: I know, because people keep saying like, oh, do we 25 00:01:28,184 --> 00:01:31,584 Speaker 1: really need this movie? But every time as we do, well, yeah, exactly, 26 00:01:31,664 --> 00:01:34,184 Speaker 1: that's what people are saying every time a new detail 27 00:01:34,304 --> 00:01:36,864 Speaker 1: is released or a new poster or now the trailer, 28 00:01:37,184 --> 00:01:39,504 Speaker 1: women in particular are going crazy. So I think Renes 29 00:01:39,544 --> 00:01:41,744 Speaker 1: Zilberger has just cut through all the nonsense. Like the 30 00:01:41,744 --> 00:01:43,344 Speaker 1: woman's got two oscars, now, you know what I mean, 31 00:01:43,344 --> 00:01:45,224 Speaker 1: Like she could be doing other things, but she knows 32 00:01:45,224 --> 00:01:47,064 Speaker 1: what the people want, so of course. 33 00:01:46,824 --> 00:01:51,024 Speaker 4: Rene's in it. Also, we have Hu Grant back, thank god. 34 00:01:51,504 --> 00:01:52,104 Speaker 2: It's not like. 35 00:01:51,984 --> 00:01:53,424 Speaker 4: We've talked about him much at all. 36 00:01:53,864 --> 00:01:56,824 Speaker 3: There is a brief appearance by the lovely Colin Firth, 37 00:01:56,864 --> 00:01:58,624 Speaker 3: who is my favor, and I'm saying that he's not 38 00:01:58,664 --> 00:01:59,224 Speaker 3: in the whole thing. 39 00:01:59,384 --> 00:02:01,784 Speaker 4: Yeah, Leo Woodall is in it as well. 40 00:02:02,064 --> 00:02:03,584 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about that yet. I 41 00:02:03,624 --> 00:02:05,704 Speaker 1: know he's hot and sexy and funny and all those things. 42 00:02:05,824 --> 00:02:07,504 Speaker 1: I was like, is this the place for you, young man? 43 00:02:07,704 --> 00:02:10,704 Speaker 4: Is this the younger man? So I I was very, 44 00:02:10,824 --> 00:02:12,344 Speaker 4: very excited to see this trailer. 45 00:02:12,984 --> 00:02:13,264 Speaker 3: Bridge. 46 00:02:13,304 --> 00:02:16,264 Speaker 2: If you're a widow with two wonderful children, my advice 47 00:02:16,304 --> 00:02:18,944 Speaker 2: to you is put your own oxygen mask on first. 48 00:02:19,544 --> 00:02:22,264 Speaker 4: You just have to get late shouts is right. 49 00:02:22,344 --> 00:02:24,864 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's been four years. 50 00:02:24,624 --> 00:02:27,064 Speaker 4: Now, you're affectively a nun who. 51 00:02:28,424 --> 00:02:29,704 Speaker 2: I've set you up on Tinder? 52 00:02:29,904 --> 00:02:30,864 Speaker 1: What tender? 53 00:02:31,904 --> 00:02:33,704 Speaker 2: How old are you eight? 54 00:02:34,104 --> 00:02:34,744 Speaker 1: Oh? 55 00:02:34,824 --> 00:02:37,664 Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding, twenty nine. 56 00:02:38,304 --> 00:02:39,144 Speaker 4: I love the trailer. 57 00:02:39,224 --> 00:02:42,264 Speaker 3: There were a few I think bigger plot points that 58 00:02:42,344 --> 00:02:44,304 Speaker 3: were shown in the trailer which I want to talk 59 00:02:44,344 --> 00:02:46,304 Speaker 3: through today because I guess it's not a spoiler since 60 00:02:46,344 --> 00:02:51,704 Speaker 3: they spoil it first. Yes, it's alluded that Renee is 61 00:02:52,224 --> 00:02:57,184 Speaker 3: Bridget is a widow, she has two kids. She is 62 00:02:57,264 --> 00:03:00,184 Speaker 3: portrayed as an older mom, and in my opinion, I 63 00:03:00,224 --> 00:03:02,144 Speaker 3: was like, she just looks like every normal mom I've 64 00:03:02,144 --> 00:03:04,704 Speaker 3: ever said. Yeah, But I think the whole joke about 65 00:03:04,744 --> 00:03:06,664 Speaker 3: it is how she is a widow so young, yet 66 00:03:06,664 --> 00:03:10,264 Speaker 3: a mom so old, and so clearly our friend Colin 67 00:03:10,544 --> 00:03:12,384 Speaker 3: mister Darcy is dead. 68 00:03:12,784 --> 00:03:14,184 Speaker 2: All that really kills me. 69 00:03:14,384 --> 00:03:17,424 Speaker 3: It really kills me. But it also made me roll 70 00:03:17,504 --> 00:03:22,344 Speaker 3: my eyes because I feel like with these big rejuvenations 71 00:03:22,384 --> 00:03:24,784 Speaker 3: of these shows, and movies that we love. 72 00:03:25,624 --> 00:03:27,184 Speaker 4: It seems like such an easy. 73 00:03:26,904 --> 00:03:29,944 Speaker 3: Way out, and I was comparing it to and just 74 00:03:30,064 --> 00:03:33,144 Speaker 3: like that, like the spinoff from Sex and City with 75 00:03:33,584 --> 00:03:36,744 Speaker 3: Big dying like in the first episode and Carrie having 76 00:03:36,784 --> 00:03:39,064 Speaker 3: to like find herself as like a widow and like 77 00:03:39,464 --> 00:03:43,144 Speaker 3: getting into dating again and meeting someone again. And it's 78 00:03:43,264 --> 00:03:46,184 Speaker 3: really weird to me because both of these relationships, like 79 00:03:46,224 --> 00:03:49,384 Speaker 3: Bridget and Carrie, they were in these relationships with these 80 00:03:49,424 --> 00:03:52,504 Speaker 3: problematic men that were on and off again and the 81 00:03:52,544 --> 00:03:55,704 Speaker 3: fact that they want to keep that so pristine and 82 00:03:55,784 --> 00:03:58,224 Speaker 3: so pure rather than just saying. 83 00:03:57,984 --> 00:03:59,824 Speaker 4: That they broke up again, like. 84 00:03:59,784 --> 00:04:00,504 Speaker 2: That's just life. 85 00:04:00,624 --> 00:04:04,864 Speaker 3: It feels really fairy taily in a way that these 86 00:04:04,904 --> 00:04:07,944 Speaker 3: shows and these movies was used to be so realistic 87 00:04:07,984 --> 00:04:08,184 Speaker 3: to me. 88 00:04:08,664 --> 00:04:11,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because to continuous story. 89 00:04:11,184 --> 00:04:13,224 Speaker 1: Especially a lot of these movies or TV shows that 90 00:04:13,264 --> 00:04:14,864 Speaker 1: are getting brought back at the moment is that they 91 00:04:14,944 --> 00:04:17,464 Speaker 1: really built up to like a very ultimate ending of 92 00:04:17,504 --> 00:04:20,064 Speaker 1: like these people are together, that's the end of their story, 93 00:04:20,304 --> 00:04:22,784 Speaker 1: and you can't come back and check on everyone, you know, 94 00:04:22,824 --> 00:04:24,424 Speaker 1: a few years down the track and everyone just be 95 00:04:24,504 --> 00:04:26,944 Speaker 1: happy and you know, their life going along because and 96 00:04:26,944 --> 00:04:30,104 Speaker 1: there's no plot point there's no stakes, there's no storyline. 97 00:04:30,264 --> 00:04:32,664 Speaker 1: So with and just like that, and then also with 98 00:04:32,744 --> 00:04:35,664 Speaker 1: these new Bridget Jones movies, you have to come in 99 00:04:35,664 --> 00:04:37,424 Speaker 1: and mess things up in order for there to be 100 00:04:37,464 --> 00:04:40,424 Speaker 1: a story. But sometimes I do think that really dilutes 101 00:04:40,464 --> 00:04:42,864 Speaker 1: the premise and it feels like, are you just messing 102 00:04:42,864 --> 00:04:45,584 Speaker 1: with these characters so that you can build another story 103 00:04:45,624 --> 00:04:46,104 Speaker 1: around them? 104 00:04:46,104 --> 00:04:47,904 Speaker 2: And like messing with the legacy. 105 00:04:47,664 --> 00:04:50,064 Speaker 1: Is interesting because I feel like Bridget Jones is a 106 00:04:50,064 --> 00:04:52,704 Speaker 1: perfect movie. Like you watch it back and forth now 107 00:04:52,744 --> 00:04:55,344 Speaker 1: and every and I know there's problematic things around it 108 00:04:55,384 --> 00:04:56,984 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. It is like very 109 00:04:56,984 --> 00:04:59,144 Speaker 1: of its time, but at the same time, like the 110 00:04:59,184 --> 00:05:03,944 Speaker 1: comedic timing, the chemistry between the three leads, all of them, yeah, 111 00:05:03,984 --> 00:05:06,904 Speaker 1: even Colin and you, which is why I think they 112 00:05:06,944 --> 00:05:09,664 Speaker 1: still have their like fake few decades and decades later. 113 00:05:09,904 --> 00:05:11,784 Speaker 1: I saw the other day that Hugh Grant had had 114 00:05:11,864 --> 00:05:13,384 Speaker 1: us are like a pluque put up and it said 115 00:05:13,424 --> 00:05:15,584 Speaker 1: in loving memory of Colin Firth. He's not dead, but 116 00:05:15,624 --> 00:05:17,544 Speaker 1: he just looks it. 117 00:05:17,544 --> 00:05:19,104 Speaker 2: It was like lightning in a bottle, like you know, 118 00:05:19,144 --> 00:05:20,104 Speaker 2: it just all worked. 119 00:05:20,504 --> 00:05:23,984 Speaker 1: And each time they've made another Bridget Jones movie, and 120 00:05:24,024 --> 00:05:25,064 Speaker 1: I say, this with love, I. 121 00:05:24,984 --> 00:05:26,544 Speaker 2: Feel like it has diluted. 122 00:05:26,584 --> 00:05:28,544 Speaker 1: And I say that it's like my first big celebrity 123 00:05:28,544 --> 00:05:31,504 Speaker 1: interview was Bridget Jones Baby with Renee Zellwiger and Patrick Densey, 124 00:05:31,504 --> 00:05:33,624 Speaker 1: both absolutely lovely. So like, I don't want to saything bad 125 00:05:33,624 --> 00:05:36,304 Speaker 1: about that movie, but I do feel each time as 126 00:05:36,344 --> 00:05:38,784 Speaker 1: they move further away from the original premise, it loses 127 00:05:38,824 --> 00:05:42,264 Speaker 1: its magic. So I think this time having Bridget hooking 128 00:05:42,344 --> 00:05:44,064 Speaker 1: up with a hot leoh woodle. 129 00:05:44,024 --> 00:05:46,544 Speaker 3: Especially since it's trending now right like the trope of 130 00:05:46,624 --> 00:05:48,784 Speaker 3: the older woman with the hot younger man, I feel 131 00:05:48,784 --> 00:05:52,184 Speaker 3: like it's already overdone. Plus the widow's already overdone. It's 132 00:05:52,224 --> 00:05:54,904 Speaker 3: just like a lot of tropes that I'm tired of seeing, 133 00:05:54,944 --> 00:05:58,384 Speaker 3: and I hate seeing a beloved character like Bridget Jones 134 00:05:58,424 --> 00:05:59,544 Speaker 3: having to go through that. 135 00:05:59,704 --> 00:06:01,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do, I mean, I am really I've 136 00:06:01,864 --> 00:06:03,064 Speaker 1: got to say, I'm really excited to see it. 137 00:06:03,064 --> 00:06:04,744 Speaker 2: And like I said, our audience. 138 00:06:04,384 --> 00:06:06,624 Speaker 4: Is spreadly honest with you here we come, oh one. 139 00:06:06,584 --> 00:06:08,504 Speaker 1: Hundred percent, like we will. Emily and I will be 140 00:06:08,824 --> 00:06:11,304 Speaker 1: first in line at that premiere. We'll be pushing people 141 00:06:11,344 --> 00:06:13,144 Speaker 1: out of the way, like we'll be turning people away 142 00:06:13,144 --> 00:06:14,024 Speaker 1: from selling our ticket. 143 00:06:14,064 --> 00:06:14,664 Speaker 4: It's a lifestyle. 144 00:06:14,744 --> 00:06:16,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a lifestyle. 145 00:06:16,104 --> 00:06:18,464 Speaker 1: It's a fandom. So I'm I'm not unhappy that they 146 00:06:18,584 --> 00:06:20,104 Speaker 1: made it. I just yeah, I'm going to go with 147 00:06:20,144 --> 00:06:21,704 Speaker 1: an open mind. But I added, it's. 148 00:06:21,664 --> 00:06:24,104 Speaker 4: Just a trailer, so you have to be there exactly. 149 00:06:23,744 --> 00:06:25,384 Speaker 1: We're really I mean, I guess this is showing like 150 00:06:25,424 --> 00:06:27,264 Speaker 1: it's a lot for people to be in this invested, 151 00:06:27,384 --> 00:06:29,544 Speaker 1: like over twenty years. Like I remember going to see 152 00:06:29,584 --> 00:06:31,904 Speaker 1: Bridget Jones in a cinema with my friends for a 153 00:06:31,904 --> 00:06:34,984 Speaker 1: friend's birthday sleepover. And I hadn't read the book then 154 00:06:35,024 --> 00:06:36,584 Speaker 1: because I like, I don't know, I was super young. 155 00:06:36,624 --> 00:06:37,984 Speaker 1: I don't think we even know what was about. And 156 00:06:38,024 --> 00:06:40,104 Speaker 1: we just remember having I remember it was the first 157 00:06:40,104 --> 00:06:41,224 Speaker 1: time my curl my hair. It was a big nice 158 00:06:41,224 --> 00:06:44,144 Speaker 1: to me, and I just remember sitting at cinem and thinking, fuck, 159 00:06:44,184 --> 00:06:46,384 Speaker 1: this is like amazing, like I you know what I mean, 160 00:06:46,424 --> 00:06:48,224 Speaker 1: Like it's that memory has stayed with it. 161 00:06:48,344 --> 00:06:51,144 Speaker 3: I always have to fast forward the Playboy Bunny scene 162 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:55,944 Speaker 3: because I really I can't deal with the secondhand Embarrasson. 163 00:06:55,704 --> 00:06:58,064 Speaker 1: Isn't the most quotable movie in the world, Like, and 164 00:06:58,144 --> 00:06:59,904 Speaker 1: my sisters and I can go for days with just 165 00:06:59,944 --> 00:07:02,704 Speaker 1: talking in Bridget Jones movie quotes, and we'll understand there's 166 00:07:02,704 --> 00:07:03,944 Speaker 1: a quote for every occasion. 167 00:07:04,104 --> 00:07:07,104 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm excited. I'm wary but excited. 168 00:07:07,184 --> 00:07:08,464 Speaker 2: Wary but excited. I like that. 169 00:07:09,864 --> 00:07:11,824 Speaker 1: So I want to at the scene of what happened yesterday. 170 00:07:12,624 --> 00:07:15,744 Speaker 1: Women across the world were aware of what time zone 171 00:07:15,744 --> 00:07:18,384 Speaker 1: they were in that the sexiest man alive cover would 172 00:07:18,384 --> 00:07:18,984 Speaker 1: be revealed. 173 00:07:19,344 --> 00:07:20,864 Speaker 4: I was so excited about this. 174 00:07:20,864 --> 00:07:23,704 Speaker 2: This is wild to me how invested people got so 175 00:07:23,824 --> 00:07:24,464 Speaker 2: for the lots of time. 176 00:07:24,464 --> 00:07:25,904 Speaker 3: I was just us in the office because we had 177 00:07:25,904 --> 00:07:28,184 Speaker 3: to report on it. Yeah, it's like journalists, but now 178 00:07:28,224 --> 00:07:30,104 Speaker 3: it feels like the whole world is on board. 179 00:07:30,104 --> 00:07:31,784 Speaker 1: And joust is a loose word to use for this 180 00:07:31,784 --> 00:07:33,664 Speaker 1: particular story, but journalistic and. 181 00:07:33,704 --> 00:07:35,104 Speaker 4: Ever sorry on that. 182 00:07:35,264 --> 00:07:38,024 Speaker 1: Here in Sydney, we knew it was four PM and 183 00:07:38,504 --> 00:07:40,744 Speaker 1: there had been built up for days. There were all 184 00:07:40,784 --> 00:07:44,184 Speaker 1: these apparent leaks around who would be. People were making predictions. 185 00:07:44,584 --> 00:07:46,384 Speaker 1: It was filling up my algorithm. It was also filling 186 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,264 Speaker 1: up just my real life charts. I could not walk 187 00:07:48,304 --> 00:07:51,424 Speaker 1: through this damn mirror office without someone being like, who 188 00:07:51,424 --> 00:07:52,864 Speaker 1: do you think is sexiest man's going to be? 189 00:07:52,904 --> 00:07:53,984 Speaker 2: And I was like, I really just trying to get 190 00:07:53,984 --> 00:07:54,584 Speaker 2: a glass of water. 191 00:07:54,984 --> 00:07:56,904 Speaker 1: And then it came closer to four pm, and I 192 00:07:56,904 --> 00:07:58,544 Speaker 1: wasn't in the office yesterday, but I was trying to 193 00:07:58,544 --> 00:08:01,544 Speaker 1: call my team to get across stuff. Everyone was just like, okay, 194 00:08:01,544 --> 00:08:04,304 Speaker 1: I can talk now, but like, come just before four pm, 195 00:08:04,344 --> 00:08:06,624 Speaker 1: I must be off the phone to watch the reveal. 196 00:08:06,704 --> 00:08:09,864 Speaker 1: So things were heightened, and then it was announced the 197 00:08:09,904 --> 00:08:13,424 Speaker 1: cover was shared that it was one John Krasinski as 198 00:08:13,464 --> 00:08:15,624 Speaker 1: the Sexiest Man Alive for twenty twenty four. 199 00:08:15,904 --> 00:08:17,984 Speaker 2: I ate a tuna sandwich on my first day so 200 00:08:18,104 --> 00:08:19,424 Speaker 2: and he started calling me big tuner. 201 00:08:19,784 --> 00:08:21,744 Speaker 1: I don't think any of them actually know my real name. 202 00:08:22,504 --> 00:08:24,744 Speaker 3: I'm in love with you what. 203 00:08:25,784 --> 00:08:27,824 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry if that's weird for you to hear, 204 00:08:27,864 --> 00:08:31,864 Speaker 1: but I needed you to hear it. I was about 205 00:08:31,904 --> 00:08:33,744 Speaker 1: to say, what is your reaction, Emily, but I think 206 00:08:33,784 --> 00:08:36,144 Speaker 1: you shared with us both last night on your Instagram 207 00:08:36,144 --> 00:08:38,504 Speaker 1: with some angry posts and today in the office. 208 00:08:38,624 --> 00:08:43,024 Speaker 3: I understand. Firstly, he is a very good looking young man. 209 00:08:43,184 --> 00:08:44,464 Speaker 4: He is old man. 210 00:08:44,464 --> 00:08:46,824 Speaker 2: If you for some wh he's in his forties, He's 211 00:08:46,824 --> 00:08:47,344 Speaker 2: not that old. 212 00:08:47,784 --> 00:08:48,984 Speaker 4: Agreed, he's good looking. 213 00:08:49,544 --> 00:08:52,424 Speaker 3: He was probably at his prime in I want to 214 00:08:52,464 --> 00:08:56,584 Speaker 3: say the early two thousands when the Office was on. Yeah, 215 00:08:56,624 --> 00:08:59,344 Speaker 3: and I think that was a time he should have 216 00:08:59,424 --> 00:09:01,704 Speaker 3: been sexiest man. If there was a time for him 217 00:09:01,744 --> 00:09:05,384 Speaker 3: to be sexiest man, I forgot he existed, and I 218 00:09:05,384 --> 00:09:06,824 Speaker 3: didn't want to be reminded this way. 219 00:09:07,104 --> 00:09:08,744 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, this is all we have to get 220 00:09:08,784 --> 00:09:11,064 Speaker 1: into the backstory of how sexiest man rolls around. And 221 00:09:11,104 --> 00:09:13,064 Speaker 1: some would say, you know, he's had a lot of 222 00:09:13,184 --> 00:09:15,824 Speaker 1: big hit move he's become like a movie star director. 223 00:09:15,944 --> 00:09:18,064 Speaker 3: But what was the reason why he was sexiest man? Like, 224 00:09:18,064 --> 00:09:19,064 Speaker 3: what was he promoting? 225 00:09:19,744 --> 00:09:23,184 Speaker 2: I mean, it's John Reach to right, Jack Reach exactly, 226 00:09:23,304 --> 00:09:26,344 Speaker 2: season four exactly. So the roll out, let's get to 227 00:09:26,384 --> 00:09:27,984 Speaker 2: that Creatia season four. 228 00:09:28,104 --> 00:09:29,224 Speaker 4: We've all been waiting for. 229 00:09:29,784 --> 00:09:33,504 Speaker 3: Here's John Krasinski to tell all interview but Jack Reacher. 230 00:09:34,424 --> 00:09:36,064 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not the demo with that is a very 231 00:09:36,064 --> 00:09:37,184 Speaker 2: popular show. Okay. 232 00:09:37,384 --> 00:09:40,344 Speaker 1: So the rollout was very very predictable in terms of 233 00:09:40,384 --> 00:09:42,504 Speaker 1: like the cover came out and then John started doing 234 00:09:42,504 --> 00:09:45,384 Speaker 1: the Late nine interviews, and I swear to god, every 235 00:09:45,384 --> 00:09:49,544 Speaker 1: single sexiest Man alive trots out the same interview points. 236 00:09:49,584 --> 00:09:52,424 Speaker 1: I was going deep back into the archives looking at 237 00:09:52,464 --> 00:09:54,864 Speaker 1: people who would you know been named back in the 238 00:09:54,944 --> 00:09:58,464 Speaker 1: nineties and you know, back to like twenty seventeen, it 239 00:09:58,504 --> 00:10:00,424 Speaker 1: was like Blake Shelton, which was the last time people 240 00:10:00,464 --> 00:10:02,864 Speaker 1: were this upset by the way, and they all say 241 00:10:02,864 --> 00:10:04,704 Speaker 1: a similar thing. First of all, they're just like, oh, 242 00:10:04,744 --> 00:10:06,504 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not sexy, Like no one 243 00:10:06,544 --> 00:10:06,944 Speaker 1: thinks that. 244 00:10:06,984 --> 00:10:09,864 Speaker 2: Haha, this is so funny, have you think it? Because 245 00:10:09,904 --> 00:10:10,704 Speaker 2: you did the cover? 246 00:10:11,384 --> 00:10:13,624 Speaker 1: And then if most of them will say like, my 247 00:10:13,704 --> 00:10:15,704 Speaker 1: mom will be really happy about this. I have yet 248 00:10:15,744 --> 00:10:17,664 Speaker 1: to find a sexiest man alive who hasn't trotted that 249 00:10:17,744 --> 00:10:19,704 Speaker 1: line out, either in the cover story or in the 250 00:10:19,704 --> 00:10:22,104 Speaker 1: interviews that follow, And all the moms are out there 251 00:10:22,104 --> 00:10:24,664 Speaker 1: being like, don't bring me into your sexiest man Stuffah. 252 00:10:24,184 --> 00:10:25,824 Speaker 4: Weird to put my nad on that. 253 00:10:26,064 --> 00:10:27,744 Speaker 1: My mom's going to be really proud of me. And 254 00:10:27,784 --> 00:10:29,824 Speaker 1: then they all and then they do the predictable, like 255 00:10:29,864 --> 00:10:31,224 Speaker 1: with John last night on the late shows. 256 00:10:31,224 --> 00:10:33,904 Speaker 2: They were like, so, how did Emily react And. 257 00:10:33,824 --> 00:10:35,504 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, He's like I couldn't hear her for 258 00:10:35,624 --> 00:10:37,744 Speaker 1: like laughed down the phone. I was like, okay, well 259 00:10:37,744 --> 00:10:39,744 Speaker 1: that's the second point we always hit. My wife thinks 260 00:10:39,744 --> 00:10:42,144 Speaker 1: it's funny. My kids think it's funny. My friends are 261 00:10:42,184 --> 00:10:44,064 Speaker 1: going to make fun of me, and then it. 262 00:10:44,024 --> 00:10:46,224 Speaker 3: Feels so weird having a sexiest man alive who has 263 00:10:46,224 --> 00:10:47,224 Speaker 3: a wife and kids. 264 00:10:47,144 --> 00:10:48,264 Speaker 2: Like most of them do. 265 00:10:48,504 --> 00:10:52,064 Speaker 1: I know, we've very rarely had a single sexiest man alive. 266 00:10:52,104 --> 00:10:53,704 Speaker 2: I have we have who? 267 00:10:53,904 --> 00:10:54,064 Speaker 1: I mean? 268 00:10:54,184 --> 00:10:55,944 Speaker 4: Yes, there's been heaps the good ones. 269 00:10:56,464 --> 00:10:58,944 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you are you thinking like twenty twenty Michael B. Jordan. 270 00:10:58,984 --> 00:10:59,664 Speaker 4: I'm thinking Michael B. 271 00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:03,544 Speaker 1: Jordan exactly anyone else because the last few years they've 272 00:11:03,584 --> 00:11:05,984 Speaker 1: all been coupled up. So Patrick Dempsey last year, which 273 00:11:05,984 --> 00:11:08,704 Speaker 1: people were very confused about it about that wife and kids. 274 00:11:08,744 --> 00:11:11,144 Speaker 1: Also an elder heartthrob. I'd say he seemed very happy 275 00:11:11,184 --> 00:11:13,184 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Paul Rudd. I mean, that's fine. You 276 00:11:13,184 --> 00:11:14,904 Speaker 1: can put a photo of him from any decade. Looks 277 00:11:14,904 --> 00:11:18,224 Speaker 1: the same then, obviously, Michael B. Jordan twenty twenty, twenty nineteen, 278 00:11:18,304 --> 00:11:20,704 Speaker 1: John Legend that was really at the height of him 279 00:11:20,704 --> 00:11:22,144 Speaker 1: and Chrissy Tigue and being like a bit of a 280 00:11:22,184 --> 00:11:25,264 Speaker 1: power online cup or before all the backlash around her 281 00:11:25,344 --> 00:11:28,904 Speaker 1: bullying kind of like pushed that to the side twenty eighteen. 282 00:11:28,944 --> 00:11:31,824 Speaker 1: Idris Elba Oh so good twenty seventeen the year we 283 00:11:31,864 --> 00:11:36,664 Speaker 1: don't speak of Blake Shelton twenty sixteen. Dwayne the Rock Johnson, 284 00:11:37,104 --> 00:11:39,024 Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting because I thought that was. 285 00:11:38,984 --> 00:11:40,784 Speaker 2: More of us. Ah, we love this guy. 286 00:11:41,584 --> 00:11:43,904 Speaker 1: I give a movie star in the world very sexless, 287 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:45,664 Speaker 1: I would say, have you know it? Also, he's just 288 00:11:45,704 --> 00:11:48,104 Speaker 1: never like, he's never the sexy guy in his movies, 289 00:11:48,144 --> 00:11:49,904 Speaker 1: Like he always has a romance, but it's always very 290 00:11:49,984 --> 00:11:51,544 Speaker 1: like chaste, and he very much. 291 00:11:51,384 --> 00:11:53,784 Speaker 3: Could be like if he tried, he could be the 292 00:11:53,784 --> 00:11:54,384 Speaker 3: sexy guy. 293 00:11:54,464 --> 00:11:54,904 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 294 00:11:55,264 --> 00:11:56,344 Speaker 4: And it's funny that he's. 295 00:11:56,144 --> 00:11:58,424 Speaker 2: Just like nah, nah, He's like, I'm just here to suits. 296 00:11:58,264 --> 00:11:59,744 Speaker 4: But I take your exclusive. 297 00:11:59,344 --> 00:12:01,664 Speaker 1: Interview and he's like, then I'll always give my love 298 00:12:01,664 --> 00:12:03,224 Speaker 1: interests like a little kiss on the lips at the end, 299 00:12:03,224 --> 00:12:05,024 Speaker 1: but nothing more, nothing more, and hands where I can 300 00:12:05,064 --> 00:12:08,664 Speaker 1: see them twenty fifteen. David Beckham, the ultimate like wife guy. 301 00:12:08,824 --> 00:12:11,104 Speaker 1: That was a good one twenty fourteen and Chris Hemsworth 302 00:12:11,144 --> 00:12:14,864 Speaker 1: also the ultimate white Kid's a weird photo of Chris Hemsworth. 303 00:12:14,984 --> 00:12:17,264 Speaker 2: Yes, you you're thinking back to twenty fourteen, you remember that. 304 00:12:17,824 --> 00:12:18,784 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got. 305 00:12:18,664 --> 00:12:20,224 Speaker 3: A bit of longer, like a bit of a shag, 306 00:12:20,264 --> 00:12:22,944 Speaker 3: doesn't he. Yeah, yeah, Okay, like that it's very thory. 307 00:12:23,184 --> 00:12:24,824 Speaker 1: Yes, well, I mean that's what he would have been 308 00:12:24,824 --> 00:12:27,544 Speaker 1: promoting at the time. So now we have to talk 309 00:12:27,544 --> 00:12:30,464 Speaker 1: about the elephant in the room, which is why did 310 00:12:30,544 --> 00:12:33,464 Speaker 1: John Krasinski win this when there was so much So what. 311 00:12:35,024 --> 00:12:36,704 Speaker 4: If you really think about Come on. 312 00:12:36,704 --> 00:12:38,824 Speaker 1: Emily, he's been like a he's been an actor for 313 00:12:38,904 --> 00:12:41,704 Speaker 1: two decades. He's in a very famous Hollywood relationship, and 314 00:12:41,744 --> 00:12:44,184 Speaker 1: people love that he's directed and starred in some really 315 00:12:44,224 --> 00:12:46,584 Speaker 1: big movies. Come on, now, Yeah, I'm not saying he 316 00:12:46,624 --> 00:12:48,664 Speaker 1: should be sexiest man alive. I think he's very handsome, 317 00:12:48,664 --> 00:12:50,304 Speaker 1: but I don't know. He's got weird like just like 318 00:12:50,384 --> 00:12:52,784 Speaker 1: goofy dad energy. Now, so I wouldn't be looking at 319 00:12:52,824 --> 00:12:55,144 Speaker 1: him as a sad I think, like it's not Maybe 320 00:12:55,144 --> 00:12:57,464 Speaker 1: I have to watch John Reacher, Jacob Reaching. 321 00:12:57,504 --> 00:12:58,464 Speaker 3: They've changed. 322 00:13:00,224 --> 00:13:02,944 Speaker 4: James Josh Reacher. 323 00:13:03,664 --> 00:13:08,104 Speaker 3: They've changed the criteria of what accounts as sexy. It 324 00:13:08,304 --> 00:13:11,904 Speaker 3: used to be sexy. Okay, you used to be Hugh Jackman. 325 00:13:12,224 --> 00:13:13,944 Speaker 3: It used to be Michael B. 326 00:13:14,064 --> 00:13:14,464 Speaker 2: Jordan's. 327 00:13:14,544 --> 00:13:16,824 Speaker 4: Actually, it used to be Idris Elba. 328 00:13:17,184 --> 00:13:19,504 Speaker 1: Actually it used to be the guy who was the 329 00:13:19,544 --> 00:13:22,664 Speaker 1: most problematic. And they didn't mean to start Sexiest Man Alive. 330 00:13:22,704 --> 00:13:23,544 Speaker 1: You're cross the story. 331 00:13:23,704 --> 00:13:24,104 Speaker 4: Who's this? 332 00:13:24,544 --> 00:13:27,304 Speaker 1: Okay, this might upset everything you know about Sexiest Man 333 00:13:27,344 --> 00:13:31,104 Speaker 1: Alive as a Donald Trump No, but you're on the 334 00:13:31,184 --> 00:13:31,944 Speaker 1: right path on. 335 00:13:34,184 --> 00:13:35,184 Speaker 2: No, who is it? 336 00:13:35,464 --> 00:13:39,824 Speaker 1: The first Sexiest Man Alive was Mel Gibson in nineteen 337 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:43,784 Speaker 1: eighty five, so that is before either of us were born. 338 00:13:43,864 --> 00:13:46,904 Speaker 1: That's how far we're going back. And it's a bit 339 00:13:46,944 --> 00:13:49,904 Speaker 1: of a controversial story of how it happened. So Slate 340 00:13:49,944 --> 00:13:53,264 Speaker 1: magazine did a big, deep dive into the history of 341 00:13:53,384 --> 00:13:56,824 Speaker 1: Sexiest Man Alive in twenty fourteen, and they interviewed a 342 00:13:56,864 --> 00:13:58,824 Speaker 1: lot of people who were involved in its conception, who 343 00:13:58,864 --> 00:14:00,824 Speaker 1: obviously don't work for People now so they can speak 344 00:14:00,864 --> 00:14:04,664 Speaker 1: more freely. So what happened is that Michelle Green, who 345 00:14:04,784 --> 00:14:07,864 Speaker 1: was a former writer at People Magazine, was on the 346 00:14:07,944 --> 00:14:11,984 Speaker 1: set of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome and she was interviewing 347 00:14:12,064 --> 00:14:16,264 Speaker 1: Mel Gibson. And look, he didn't come off great. He 348 00:14:16,584 --> 00:14:20,224 Speaker 1: used some derogatory terms. He also said the movie he 349 00:14:20,264 --> 00:14:21,744 Speaker 1: was promoting was a piece of shit. 350 00:14:22,424 --> 00:14:24,704 Speaker 2: He told the reporter I don't even want to be doing. 351 00:14:24,464 --> 00:14:28,104 Speaker 1: This interview, And he was drinking and smoking throughout and 352 00:14:28,144 --> 00:14:30,744 Speaker 1: being very upsetting and aggressive. 353 00:14:30,544 --> 00:14:32,304 Speaker 4: And they called him the Sexiest Man Alive. 354 00:14:32,464 --> 00:14:36,344 Speaker 2: Well, yes, because so the interview was awful. He was awful. 355 00:14:36,344 --> 00:14:38,824 Speaker 1: He came across terrible, but he was considered, like, you know, 356 00:14:39,224 --> 00:14:41,344 Speaker 1: the biggest star in Hollywood at the time. People were 357 00:14:41,424 --> 00:14:43,304 Speaker 1: very obsessed with him and thought he was hot. And 358 00:14:43,344 --> 00:14:46,584 Speaker 1: so when Michelle Green filed her story, she ended her 359 00:14:46,624 --> 00:14:49,544 Speaker 1: whole big, juicy article with the line and then the 360 00:14:49,624 --> 00:14:55,984 Speaker 1: Sexiest Man Alive slouches away alone. Oh oh, and that 361 00:14:56,224 --> 00:14:59,824 Speaker 1: became that last line. That was so so she just 362 00:14:59,864 --> 00:15:02,144 Speaker 1: printed everything he said, every awful thing he'd said, but 363 00:15:02,224 --> 00:15:04,424 Speaker 1: she was also writing that, you know, he is this 364 00:15:04,544 --> 00:15:06,704 Speaker 1: huge star. But then she's ending it saying like, yeah, 365 00:15:06,904 --> 00:15:09,264 Speaker 1: we call him the Sexiest Man Alive. And he slouched 366 00:15:09,304 --> 00:15:12,784 Speaker 1: away alone, and that became the magazine cover line Sexiest 367 00:15:12,824 --> 00:15:15,384 Speaker 1: Man Alive. Because the editors saw that were like ooh, 368 00:15:15,544 --> 00:15:18,904 Speaker 1: and that magazine wanted to sell two million copies, which 369 00:15:18,944 --> 00:15:19,344 Speaker 1: was oh. 370 00:15:19,384 --> 00:15:21,624 Speaker 4: So the article came before the series. 371 00:15:21,344 --> 00:15:23,744 Speaker 2: Yes, and then the franchise was born from that. 372 00:15:24,264 --> 00:15:27,904 Speaker 1: And in this interview Michelle Green, she talks about accidentally 373 00:15:27,984 --> 00:15:30,664 Speaker 1: launching the Sexiest Man Alive franchise because they didn't mean to. 374 00:15:31,104 --> 00:15:33,424 Speaker 1: It was just the end of this awful piece that 375 00:15:33,504 --> 00:15:36,224 Speaker 1: she filed them out mel Gibson calling him the sexiest 376 00:15:36,224 --> 00:15:36,584 Speaker 1: man Alive. 377 00:15:36,664 --> 00:15:38,504 Speaker 2: God, I hope just got a commission on this and 378 00:15:38,544 --> 00:15:39,664 Speaker 2: they use as the cover line. 379 00:15:39,704 --> 00:15:41,304 Speaker 1: It just sold and from then on they were like, 380 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:43,144 Speaker 1: this is something we're going to do every year, name 381 00:15:43,184 --> 00:15:44,224 Speaker 1: the sexiest man Alive. 382 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:47,344 Speaker 3: So did everyone know this about mel Gibson in the 383 00:15:47,344 --> 00:15:49,344 Speaker 3: way where they used the line sexiest man Alive? 384 00:15:49,344 --> 00:15:50,704 Speaker 4: Because I knew it'd be controversial. 385 00:15:51,224 --> 00:15:51,424 Speaker 2: Yeah. 386 00:15:51,424 --> 00:15:52,624 Speaker 1: I think they just thought it was like it was 387 00:15:52,624 --> 00:15:55,184 Speaker 1: a sexy, controversial thing to put because it hadn't been 388 00:15:55,264 --> 00:15:57,344 Speaker 1: used on a magazine cover story like that before. And 389 00:15:57,384 --> 00:16:00,864 Speaker 1: also the interview that ran was so polar opposite. Yeah, exactly, 390 00:16:00,904 --> 00:16:02,624 Speaker 1: But it was that kind of dangerous thing of being like, oh, 391 00:16:02,704 --> 00:16:04,744 Speaker 1: he's a terrible guy and he's said a lot of 392 00:16:04,744 --> 00:16:06,824 Speaker 1: derogatory things and he's been awful to this journalist, but 393 00:16:06,904 --> 00:16:07,464 Speaker 1: look at that face. 394 00:16:08,024 --> 00:16:08,624 Speaker 2: But that face. 395 00:16:08,784 --> 00:16:12,104 Speaker 1: So Michelle Green has since said it's something that she 396 00:16:12,144 --> 00:16:15,424 Speaker 1: sort of hates having unleashed upon the world, and in 397 00:16:15,504 --> 00:16:19,504 Speaker 1: this Slate In this Slate interview, she says the very 398 00:16:19,544 --> 00:16:22,424 Speaker 1: idea of a sexiest man Alive is a false concept. 399 00:16:22,624 --> 00:16:24,344 Speaker 1: It's not do I want to fuck this guy. It's 400 00:16:24,384 --> 00:16:27,544 Speaker 1: a very calculated feature that's all about selling magazines, and 401 00:16:27,584 --> 00:16:29,064 Speaker 1: I can't believe people. 402 00:16:28,784 --> 00:16:29,304 Speaker 2: Fall for it. 403 00:16:29,544 --> 00:16:32,624 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a calculated like build up to sell magazines. 404 00:16:32,664 --> 00:16:34,904 Speaker 1: And quite a few people who have also been involved 405 00:16:34,904 --> 00:16:36,984 Speaker 1: in over the years who have now done interviews about 406 00:16:37,024 --> 00:16:38,664 Speaker 1: it since have said that a lot of the time, 407 00:16:38,904 --> 00:16:42,664 Speaker 1: especially now, they try and make very controversial decisions because 408 00:16:42,704 --> 00:16:44,984 Speaker 1: those issues sell more and they get way more press. 409 00:16:45,784 --> 00:16:47,384 Speaker 1: So I think with John Cusin see it every time 410 00:16:47,384 --> 00:16:49,944 Speaker 1: because you think how many people repost that going oh 411 00:16:49,944 --> 00:16:52,344 Speaker 1: my god, like you reposted it right, Yeah, yeah, we 412 00:16:52,424 --> 00:16:54,584 Speaker 1: posted all across OSH socials because it was getting so 413 00:16:54,664 --> 00:16:55,224 Speaker 1: much engagedment. 414 00:16:55,224 --> 00:16:57,144 Speaker 4: I don't believe I fell for it. Yeah, God damn it. 415 00:16:58,104 --> 00:17:01,304 Speaker 4: But it's like so true, Like I think she's right. 416 00:17:01,384 --> 00:17:04,144 Speaker 3: It's always been like such a hot topic every year, 417 00:17:04,224 --> 00:17:07,824 Speaker 3: especially this year in particular, and then we always see 418 00:17:07,864 --> 00:17:10,264 Speaker 3: the year where they try to do good and like 419 00:17:10,384 --> 00:17:12,744 Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter is happening and they were like John Legend, 420 00:17:12,784 --> 00:17:15,944 Speaker 3: Michael and and then like straight after they were like, okay, 421 00:17:15,984 --> 00:17:16,664 Speaker 3: now we can go back to. 422 00:17:16,624 --> 00:17:17,864 Speaker 2: The white Yeah, we've gone back to that. 423 00:17:18,544 --> 00:17:19,864 Speaker 4: So we do need to talk. 424 00:17:19,664 --> 00:17:23,304 Speaker 3: About this issue in particular, and not because of John Krasinski, 425 00:17:23,544 --> 00:17:24,784 Speaker 3: but what could have been. 426 00:17:25,944 --> 00:17:27,744 Speaker 2: Okay, now we've got the mel Gibson law out of 427 00:17:27,744 --> 00:17:27,984 Speaker 2: the way. 428 00:17:28,104 --> 00:17:30,664 Speaker 1: So coming back to the elephant in the room, which 429 00:17:30,704 --> 00:17:33,064 Speaker 1: is how did he get picked? And because I think 430 00:17:33,144 --> 00:17:35,544 Speaker 1: leading into it, people who maybe aren't sort of across 431 00:17:35,544 --> 00:17:38,344 Speaker 1: the process and how magazines and media work, especially in 432 00:17:38,344 --> 00:17:40,744 Speaker 1: this digital age, were saying like, well, it's got to 433 00:17:40,784 --> 00:17:43,304 Speaker 1: be Glenn Powell, because Glenn Powell is the hottest man 434 00:17:43,304 --> 00:17:45,264 Speaker 1: around right now and everyone's obsessed with him, and he's 435 00:17:45,264 --> 00:17:46,504 Speaker 1: had this huge year of movies. 436 00:17:46,824 --> 00:17:47,664 Speaker 2: It's going to be him. 437 00:17:47,744 --> 00:17:50,704 Speaker 1: And then people were thinking, poor mescal because again, big 438 00:17:50,784 --> 00:17:53,024 Speaker 1: year of movies, a lot of hype around him. And 439 00:17:53,064 --> 00:17:54,784 Speaker 1: then some people are saying like, oh, but like we're 440 00:17:54,784 --> 00:17:57,184 Speaker 1: in the era of the Adam Brodie come back, maybe 441 00:17:57,184 --> 00:17:59,464 Speaker 1: it'll be him. And the thing about this is that 442 00:17:59,504 --> 00:18:01,184 Speaker 1: it doesn't come down to who the people want and 443 00:18:01,184 --> 00:18:03,384 Speaker 1: who is sexiest. A lot of the time it comes 444 00:18:03,424 --> 00:18:04,704 Speaker 1: down to who says yes. 445 00:18:05,184 --> 00:18:07,264 Speaker 4: Who agrees that they are the sexiest man? 446 00:18:07,504 --> 00:18:07,944 Speaker 2: I agree. 447 00:18:07,984 --> 00:18:10,664 Speaker 1: So if you read the people like explanation on this, 448 00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:13,704 Speaker 1: they say that they start prepping it months in advance, 449 00:18:13,864 --> 00:18:15,864 Speaker 1: they talk about who's the excite guys, who they want, 450 00:18:15,904 --> 00:18:18,624 Speaker 1: They have focus groups and I'm sure all that does 451 00:18:18,664 --> 00:18:21,744 Speaker 1: absolutely happen behind the scenes. But then you have to 452 00:18:21,784 --> 00:18:24,584 Speaker 1: start calling people's management teams and asking if they want 453 00:18:24,624 --> 00:18:24,784 Speaker 1: to do it. 454 00:18:24,824 --> 00:18:25,144 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 455 00:18:25,144 --> 00:18:26,944 Speaker 1: You can't just be named sexiest Man of the Year. 456 00:18:26,984 --> 00:18:28,344 Speaker 1: You have to agree to it, and you have to 457 00:18:28,424 --> 00:18:32,704 Speaker 1: agree to all of the terms and stipulations and agreements 458 00:18:32,784 --> 00:18:35,224 Speaker 1: which do last for a whole year. So first of all, 459 00:18:35,264 --> 00:18:38,264 Speaker 1: have you have to agree to accept the title well beforehand. 460 00:18:38,504 --> 00:18:40,184 Speaker 1: Then you have to agree to appear in the cover 461 00:18:40,264 --> 00:18:42,584 Speaker 1: shoot and the videos that's obviously a big part of 462 00:18:42,624 --> 00:18:43,104 Speaker 1: your time. 463 00:18:43,344 --> 00:18:44,584 Speaker 2: You have to agree to the interview. 464 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:47,024 Speaker 1: You have to agree to share certain information in the 465 00:18:47,024 --> 00:18:49,424 Speaker 1: interview and like make it worthwhile. You then have to 466 00:18:49,464 --> 00:18:51,904 Speaker 1: agree to do the press where you can also promote 467 00:18:51,944 --> 00:18:54,384 Speaker 1: your own products, and a lot of actors who want 468 00:18:54,384 --> 00:18:57,384 Speaker 1: more promo for their projects at the time often say 469 00:18:57,464 --> 00:19:00,264 Speaker 1: yes because then they're getting the promo spots for their 470 00:19:00,304 --> 00:19:01,984 Speaker 1: new movie or TV show, but they're also getting a 471 00:19:01,984 --> 00:19:05,504 Speaker 1: sexistmount of live promo shots. They're doubling their promotion for 472 00:19:05,544 --> 00:19:07,824 Speaker 1: their new products, which is important. So then you have 473 00:19:07,864 --> 00:19:10,104 Speaker 1: to agree to do all of that, do the press, 474 00:19:10,144 --> 00:19:12,984 Speaker 1: and you also have to agree I couldn't only proven anyway. 475 00:19:12,984 --> 00:19:14,264 Speaker 1: This is just a lot of people behind the scenes 476 00:19:14,264 --> 00:19:17,184 Speaker 1: saying almost like the conspiracy theory of people's sexiest man. 477 00:19:17,224 --> 00:19:19,264 Speaker 1: If you will that you also have to agree to 478 00:19:19,384 --> 00:19:22,984 Speaker 1: like a different number of like exclusives, interviews, access during 479 00:19:22,984 --> 00:19:25,064 Speaker 1: the year. So it's a year long commitment to do this, 480 00:19:25,504 --> 00:19:27,744 Speaker 1: and you've got to think, like Glenn Powell doesn't need 481 00:19:27,784 --> 00:19:30,624 Speaker 1: it right now exactly. And the thing is they've both 482 00:19:30,704 --> 00:19:33,704 Speaker 1: just come off these huge promotional tours. They've done so 483 00:19:33,824 --> 00:19:36,304 Speaker 1: much pressed and so many interviews. And also, not to 484 00:19:36,344 --> 00:19:38,904 Speaker 1: be unfair to our good friend John Krisinski over here, 485 00:19:38,944 --> 00:19:43,024 Speaker 1: but like Paul and Glenn can get those big magazine 486 00:19:43,064 --> 00:19:45,824 Speaker 1: covers at the moment and those big interviews because they 487 00:19:45,824 --> 00:19:46,624 Speaker 1: are so hot right. 488 00:19:46,504 --> 00:19:49,904 Speaker 3: Now, Like why would they try get locked into one 489 00:19:50,024 --> 00:19:51,544 Speaker 3: like people, Yeah, they could have. 490 00:19:51,544 --> 00:19:52,464 Speaker 2: It without the gimmick. 491 00:19:52,504 --> 00:19:54,864 Speaker 1: Whereas John Kristinski I think still has a lot of 492 00:19:54,904 --> 00:19:56,944 Speaker 1: power and I don't I think that he still obviously 493 00:19:56,984 --> 00:19:59,184 Speaker 1: can book a late night spot, but like, can he 494 00:19:59,224 --> 00:20:02,304 Speaker 1: book a big solo magazine cover by himself now without 495 00:20:02,344 --> 00:20:05,824 Speaker 1: doing a massive tell all about Emily Brunt, like potentially not, 496 00:20:06,104 --> 00:20:07,864 Speaker 1: but a lot of people who I follow who work 497 00:20:07,864 --> 00:20:10,144 Speaker 1: in the industry were saying, like, between you and me, 498 00:20:10,544 --> 00:20:13,704 Speaker 1: I organized magazine cover shoots and this guy was so 499 00:20:13,744 --> 00:20:15,224 Speaker 1: fight out the list. And the same thing was said 500 00:20:15,224 --> 00:20:16,424 Speaker 1: about Patrick Dempsey last year. 501 00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:17,064 Speaker 2: I think that's true. 502 00:20:17,104 --> 00:20:19,304 Speaker 1: Like they called everyone who had a movie coming out 503 00:20:19,304 --> 00:20:20,864 Speaker 1: at the time or a new TV show coming out 504 00:20:20,864 --> 00:20:22,824 Speaker 1: the time, and they went down the list until they 505 00:20:22,904 --> 00:20:24,104 Speaker 1: hit someone who said yes. 506 00:20:24,024 --> 00:20:25,304 Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense to me. 507 00:20:25,544 --> 00:20:27,744 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like the sexiest man alive is 508 00:20:27,864 --> 00:20:32,224 Speaker 3: chosen because there's no other publication really wants to give 509 00:20:32,264 --> 00:20:34,944 Speaker 3: them an exclusive or interview, and that everyone else before 510 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:37,784 Speaker 3: you said no, and everyone else before you said no, 511 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:40,784 Speaker 3: and sudden you're bumped to the top and you're like, 512 00:20:40,824 --> 00:20:43,544 Speaker 3: I'll take what I can get, and it's the sexiest man. 513 00:20:43,424 --> 00:20:45,464 Speaker 1: Because a lot of outlets have reporting and again like 514 00:20:45,624 --> 00:20:46,904 Speaker 1: not proven, but you just would. 515 00:20:47,624 --> 00:20:50,264 Speaker 4: Hotel was such a high contender. He had a massive 516 00:20:50,344 --> 00:20:50,904 Speaker 4: year this year. 517 00:20:50,944 --> 00:20:55,024 Speaker 1: Well apparently Dev Pattel and Paul and Glenn Power were 518 00:20:55,064 --> 00:20:57,824 Speaker 1: all like asked in like aggressively aggressively courted is the 519 00:20:57,864 --> 00:20:59,144 Speaker 1: term that being used. 520 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:01,664 Speaker 2: Promising them like we'll do this for you will do that. 521 00:21:01,824 --> 00:21:03,104 Speaker 1: You don't even have to, like you barely have to 522 00:21:03,144 --> 00:21:05,664 Speaker 1: be in the photo, like you only do under one button, 523 00:21:05,744 --> 00:21:07,664 Speaker 1: not even the whole time. They're like, nah, man, And 524 00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:10,224 Speaker 1: then I'm not doing that, Especially Paul, He's like, I'm 525 00:21:10,224 --> 00:21:12,024 Speaker 1: just it's gone on like fifty red carpets from the world. 526 00:21:12,064 --> 00:21:13,904 Speaker 2: Have you talked about my short shorts and running. I'm 527 00:21:13,944 --> 00:21:16,864 Speaker 2: not doing that. My mum will live without it. 528 00:21:16,944 --> 00:21:19,224 Speaker 1: So they hit on John Krasinski, you know, and he's 529 00:21:19,224 --> 00:21:22,024 Speaker 1: out there doing the work. But then something unfortunate happened 530 00:21:22,064 --> 00:21:24,024 Speaker 1: last night. As we were in the throes of still 531 00:21:24,064 --> 00:21:27,464 Speaker 1: processing what had happened, an unfortunate reveal came our way. 532 00:21:27,664 --> 00:21:31,784 Speaker 3: The battle of the publication, So Yes, John Krasinski was announced. 533 00:21:31,904 --> 00:21:35,064 Speaker 3: Everyone was upset, but obviously resharing it and reading the 534 00:21:35,104 --> 00:21:36,704 Speaker 3: interview and looking at the cover. 535 00:21:36,704 --> 00:21:39,384 Speaker 2: And all the reactions was so good. 536 00:21:39,504 --> 00:21:44,064 Speaker 3: The reactions were absolutely brilliant because people so badly wanted 537 00:21:44,104 --> 00:21:48,584 Speaker 3: it to be. It wasn't even in anyone's mind, Like 538 00:21:49,304 --> 00:21:51,904 Speaker 3: every single person who was waiting for this, No one 539 00:21:52,024 --> 00:21:53,264 Speaker 3: said John Czinte, I know. 540 00:21:53,344 --> 00:21:55,784 Speaker 1: Some of the people just showing things like stay in line, 541 00:21:55,944 --> 00:22:01,024 Speaker 1: keep voting, don't give up, stay in line, stay on 542 00:22:01,064 --> 00:22:03,464 Speaker 1: the call, stay on the call. Don't let this happen. 543 00:22:03,504 --> 00:22:06,264 Speaker 1: It's like the magazine's being printed. But the conspiracy theories 544 00:22:06,264 --> 00:22:07,984 Speaker 1: were so deep, Like I was seeing these videos go 545 00:22:08,024 --> 00:22:09,984 Speaker 1: around where they were like it was apparently a leak 546 00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:12,344 Speaker 1: from this Sexiest Man a Life photo shoot and the 547 00:22:12,384 --> 00:22:14,704 Speaker 1: person was wearing a brown jacket. Everyone's like, Glen Powell 548 00:22:14,704 --> 00:22:16,584 Speaker 1: has a brown jacket, and I was like, oh, long 549 00:22:16,624 --> 00:22:17,104 Speaker 1: boat to draw. 550 00:22:17,144 --> 00:22:18,584 Speaker 2: And then someone's like the weight, no, no, but the 551 00:22:18,584 --> 00:22:19,544 Speaker 2: way he reaches his. 552 00:22:19,584 --> 00:22:21,544 Speaker 1: Arm up in the photo in the blurrydest you can 553 00:22:21,584 --> 00:22:24,784 Speaker 1: see that's Glenn Powell, and I'm like, oh, we just. 554 00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:26,024 Speaker 2: Want this to be true, but it's just not. 555 00:22:26,104 --> 00:22:27,704 Speaker 4: Glen Powell was doing something else. 556 00:22:27,864 --> 00:22:28,304 Speaker 2: Yeah. 557 00:22:28,344 --> 00:22:31,384 Speaker 3: So after that was released, I think people were like 558 00:22:31,424 --> 00:22:33,384 Speaker 3: kind of like that was a good year, guys. 559 00:22:33,664 --> 00:22:35,624 Speaker 4: Yeah, no one liked it, but guess what they still 560 00:22:35,664 --> 00:22:36,104 Speaker 4: looked at it. 561 00:22:36,264 --> 00:22:40,944 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then something unexpected happened, according to People, according 562 00:22:40,984 --> 00:22:41,984 Speaker 3: to me, according. 563 00:22:41,584 --> 00:22:43,824 Speaker 2: To People, the people, not the magazine. 564 00:22:43,904 --> 00:22:44,224 Speaker 1: People. 565 00:22:44,824 --> 00:22:45,344 Speaker 2: Last Night. 566 00:22:45,704 --> 00:22:51,344 Speaker 3: Vanity Fair released their twenty twenty five Hollywood issue literally 567 00:22:51,664 --> 00:22:56,544 Speaker 3: the day after People magazine announced the Sexiest Man and 568 00:22:56,664 --> 00:23:00,824 Speaker 3: some of the men in this issue were the men 569 00:23:00,904 --> 00:23:04,544 Speaker 3: that we were the rather seen as a sexiest man alive, 570 00:23:04,664 --> 00:23:08,384 Speaker 3: and it all just started to make sense. So you 571 00:23:08,424 --> 00:23:11,224 Speaker 3: said that obviously, when you give an exclusive interview, that 572 00:23:11,304 --> 00:23:13,464 Speaker 3: means you can't give it to any other publication. Yes, 573 00:23:14,064 --> 00:23:17,864 Speaker 3: So in the twenty twenty five Hollywood Issue, firstly, let 574 00:23:17,904 --> 00:23:19,544 Speaker 3: me explain what it is in case. We have talked 575 00:23:19,584 --> 00:23:22,024 Speaker 3: about a few times, but I saw this line and 576 00:23:22,264 --> 00:23:25,184 Speaker 3: it like kind of summed it up perfectly for me. 577 00:23:25,544 --> 00:23:28,304 Speaker 3: It said, it's like the yearly status update on the 578 00:23:28,344 --> 00:23:31,744 Speaker 3: whole industry, and as always is full of surprises. So 579 00:23:31,864 --> 00:23:35,304 Speaker 3: basically the Hollywood Issue for Vanity Fair is them getting 580 00:23:35,344 --> 00:23:37,824 Speaker 3: together not just like the biggest celebrities of that year, 581 00:23:37,864 --> 00:23:40,264 Speaker 3: but who they think is like the most trending, the 582 00:23:40,304 --> 00:23:43,064 Speaker 3: most fast forward. And it's not just actors, it's also 583 00:23:43,104 --> 00:23:46,224 Speaker 3: personalities and creators kind of the people who are shaping 584 00:23:46,264 --> 00:23:49,544 Speaker 3: the entertainment industry for the next year. Yeah, So in 585 00:23:49,584 --> 00:23:54,344 Speaker 3: this issue we have Zendaya, Glen Powell. It's like a 586 00:23:54,464 --> 00:24:00,304 Speaker 3: knife to the heart, Zoe Saldana, Nicole Kidman, deav fatel No, 587 00:24:01,304 --> 00:24:07,944 Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney, Josh O'Connor, Danielle Deadweiler, Jonathan Bailey, a great one. 588 00:24:08,064 --> 00:24:10,504 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the sexiest man alive every day the 589 00:24:10,544 --> 00:24:11,184 Speaker 1: rest of the time. 590 00:24:11,424 --> 00:24:15,904 Speaker 3: Lisa Natuti Gatwa and Bill Scar's guard also quite sexy. 591 00:24:15,944 --> 00:24:19,064 Speaker 1: Oh and yeah, yeah, shooting and affairs stole all the 592 00:24:19,104 --> 00:24:20,104 Speaker 1: men from people. 593 00:24:20,344 --> 00:24:21,704 Speaker 2: They took all the sexy. 594 00:24:21,384 --> 00:24:23,984 Speaker 3: For them because of this like massive issue they all 595 00:24:23,984 --> 00:24:26,664 Speaker 3: have to give exclusive interviews. So all of these men 596 00:24:26,744 --> 00:24:29,944 Speaker 3: couldn't also give an exclusive interview to people exactly. 597 00:24:30,024 --> 00:24:30,704 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. 598 00:24:30,744 --> 00:24:33,584 Speaker 1: Like, so there's so much politics and like agreements and 599 00:24:33,664 --> 00:24:36,224 Speaker 1: exclusivity that goes into booking a mag cover. And obviously 600 00:24:36,264 --> 00:24:38,744 Speaker 1: all the mags are in different you know, the different 601 00:24:38,824 --> 00:24:41,424 Speaker 1: levels of prestige. They're all looking to the same talent pool. 602 00:24:41,464 --> 00:24:42,544 Speaker 4: They all want a Vanity Fair. 603 00:24:42,704 --> 00:24:44,664 Speaker 1: And so they were trying to book Shooty or they're 604 00:24:44,664 --> 00:24:46,304 Speaker 1: trying to book Glen Power, They're trying to book Devil 605 00:24:46,384 --> 00:24:48,344 Speaker 1: someone like that, but they can't because they're already locked 606 00:24:48,344 --> 00:24:49,064 Speaker 1: into Vanity Fair. 607 00:24:49,064 --> 00:24:51,624 Speaker 4: And of course, oh my Goshy would have been so good. 608 00:24:51,944 --> 00:24:53,424 Speaker 2: Sexiest Man Batman is. 609 00:24:53,464 --> 00:24:55,504 Speaker 4: So they knew what they were doing. 610 00:24:55,664 --> 00:24:58,584 Speaker 1: They knew what they They dropped a sexy cover on 611 00:24:58,624 --> 00:25:01,184 Speaker 1: the same day as people dropped their sexiest Man Alive 612 00:25:01,264 --> 00:25:03,584 Speaker 1: cover and stole all their thunder. It just be like, 613 00:25:03,584 --> 00:25:05,464 Speaker 1: if you like really were into a guy, I wanted 614 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:06,984 Speaker 1: to date them, and you looked on Instagram and saw 615 00:25:07,024 --> 00:25:08,504 Speaker 1: they were going on a date with your best friends. 616 00:25:08,704 --> 00:25:10,104 Speaker 2: That's People magazine today. 617 00:25:10,344 --> 00:25:13,664 Speaker 4: Oh People. People. 618 00:25:14,504 --> 00:25:16,864 Speaker 3: Also, I did have a little look see at the 619 00:25:16,864 --> 00:25:20,344 Speaker 3: Glen Powell exclusive and it's just so good because he 620 00:25:20,384 --> 00:25:22,704 Speaker 3: discloses some of the stuff that we've been talking about 621 00:25:22,904 --> 00:25:25,504 Speaker 3: since that movie came out with Sidney Sweeney, anyone but you. 622 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:28,744 Speaker 3: He did say that we leaned into the chemistry, we 623 00:25:28,824 --> 00:25:30,904 Speaker 3: leaned into the fun, we lean into all of it, 624 00:25:30,944 --> 00:25:33,584 Speaker 3: and the movie benefited, which is exactly what everyone was saying, 625 00:25:33,584 --> 00:25:36,624 Speaker 3: and like they're definitely together and we were saying, no, 626 00:25:36,744 --> 00:25:39,024 Speaker 3: they're playing a part. And he talked about how the 627 00:25:39,144 --> 00:25:41,624 Speaker 3: entire press tour for that with Sidney Sweeney felt like 628 00:25:41,624 --> 00:25:43,904 Speaker 3: a performance in itself. Yeah, they knew exactly what. 629 00:25:43,824 --> 00:25:44,264 Speaker 4: They were doing. 630 00:25:44,264 --> 00:25:47,304 Speaker 3: And he said it an exclusive interview for vanity fans. 631 00:25:47,624 --> 00:25:51,704 Speaker 1: All the hot pictures, so well played, well played, Oh 632 00:25:51,744 --> 00:25:53,664 Speaker 1: my god. So it just goes to show like there's 633 00:25:53,744 --> 00:25:57,864 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, there's cutthroat backdoor deals like Sexiest Men Alive. 634 00:25:57,904 --> 00:25:59,784 Speaker 1: It's not a it's not a fun time, it's not 635 00:25:59,784 --> 00:26:02,344 Speaker 1: for the faint of heart, and poor John Krasinski. 636 00:26:03,984 --> 00:26:04,784 Speaker 2: Like tramanity. 637 00:26:05,224 --> 00:26:09,184 Speaker 3: Guys, Hey, guys, you're looking for someone else to add 638 00:26:09,184 --> 00:26:09,784 Speaker 3: to your issue. 639 00:26:09,824 --> 00:26:11,224 Speaker 2: We should photo shopping in. 640 00:26:13,184 --> 00:26:15,464 Speaker 1: Because last night, as we were talking about the Sexies 641 00:26:15,544 --> 00:26:17,144 Speaker 1: manle life, you were like you were looking at all 642 00:26:17,144 --> 00:26:19,424 Speaker 1: the backlash and then you look to John Kazinski and like, 643 00:26:19,464 --> 00:26:21,264 Speaker 1: this man really put his life on the line for this. 644 00:26:21,424 --> 00:26:23,664 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, well, I hate that's coming here, and 645 00:26:23,704 --> 00:26:24,184 Speaker 2: I think it's. 646 00:26:24,064 --> 00:26:26,184 Speaker 3: Going to be even harder for people next year because 647 00:26:26,224 --> 00:26:28,624 Speaker 3: social media is getting more and more quicker at these things, 648 00:26:28,624 --> 00:26:31,584 Speaker 3: Like memes were made within seconds of this being announced, 649 00:26:32,104 --> 00:26:33,264 Speaker 3: like what man. 650 00:26:33,024 --> 00:26:33,984 Speaker 2: Would want this? 651 00:26:34,144 --> 00:26:38,104 Speaker 3: What man would actually want all of these children to be? 652 00:26:38,304 --> 00:26:38,424 Speaker 1: Like? 653 00:26:38,824 --> 00:26:39,864 Speaker 4: Who is this guy? 654 00:26:40,904 --> 00:26:44,024 Speaker 2: I have thought? I know, Well, anyway, just go watch 655 00:26:44,104 --> 00:26:44,744 Speaker 2: Jackson Reach. 656 00:26:44,744 --> 00:26:51,424 Speaker 3: Others say just don't watch Jeremiah Reacher's show, and yeah, sexies. 657 00:26:51,424 --> 00:26:53,224 Speaker 1: Maybe he just seems to give a derogatory into you 658 00:26:53,304 --> 00:26:55,904 Speaker 1: next time and he'll be Allah mel Gibson right back 659 00:26:55,944 --> 00:26:56,664 Speaker 1: to the notes. 660 00:26:57,344 --> 00:26:59,824 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 661 00:26:59,904 --> 00:27:02,744 Speaker 3: For some BTS knowledge if you're if you follow our Instagram, 662 00:27:02,784 --> 00:27:04,704 Speaker 3: which you definitely should be. At the Spill podcast, you 663 00:27:04,784 --> 00:27:09,144 Speaker 3: might be seeing some rogue esque posts and that's because 664 00:27:09,624 --> 00:27:12,984 Speaker 3: entertainment editor Tina Burke, who has been on the podcast before, 665 00:27:13,544 --> 00:27:16,904 Speaker 3: was very upset with the announcement of Sexiest Live. So 666 00:27:16,984 --> 00:27:19,544 Speaker 3: she took it upon herself to be like, if I'm 667 00:27:19,544 --> 00:27:21,384 Speaker 3: not going to get the sexiest man I want, I'm 668 00:27:21,384 --> 00:27:23,944 Speaker 3: just gonna post them all over the Spill Instagram. 669 00:27:24,344 --> 00:27:25,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like, do I have to She's like, 670 00:27:25,504 --> 00:27:27,064 Speaker 1: do I have to check with you first? You post 671 00:27:27,144 --> 00:27:28,104 Speaker 1: whatever you want. 672 00:27:28,064 --> 00:27:30,384 Speaker 4: You're going through something, just let it out. 673 00:27:30,504 --> 00:27:31,544 Speaker 2: So it is so rogue. 674 00:27:31,544 --> 00:27:33,784 Speaker 1: I'm seeing it for the first time when it appears 675 00:27:33,784 --> 00:27:36,464 Speaker 1: on the Spills so I guess a bill alert but 676 00:27:36,544 --> 00:27:37,464 Speaker 1: not alarmed at house. 677 00:27:37,664 --> 00:27:40,264 Speaker 4: Give it a like, give it a follow. Tina needs this. 678 00:27:40,304 --> 00:27:42,584 Speaker 2: It's a sexy feed. The Spill Instagram has gotten very 679 00:27:42,624 --> 00:27:43,304 Speaker 2: sexy lately. 680 00:27:43,744 --> 00:27:45,824 Speaker 3: We will be back here in your podcast feed at 681 00:27:45,864 --> 00:27:46,984 Speaker 3: three pm tomorrow. 682 00:27:47,184 --> 00:27:53,024 Speaker 2: Bye bye, Nan