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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to you beauty. This is the podcast
Speaker 1: for your Face.
Speaker 3: I'm Kelly McCarran and today all the way from Lovely Melbourne,
Speaker 3: I am joined by our glorious beauty editor Amy Clark.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, happy to be dialing in.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to chat to you today. Lee is
Speaker 3: a little bit poorly today and as always our girl Amy, well,
Speaker 3: she hustled and made things happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3: So on today's episode, as always on a Monday, we
Speaker 3: are answering two questions sent in by our lovely ubies. Firstly,
Speaker 3: we are gonna demystify what exactly is PDRN and why
Speaker 3: we are seeing it everywhere? And then how to get
Speaker 3: your makeup to actually last all day without looking all
Speaker 3: dry and cracked and crusty. Plus, we both have a
Speaker 3: beauty bite as always to share with you, which includes
Speaker 3: a little bit of advice about not needing to overpack.
Speaker 1: But first let's.
Speaker 3: Hear what's been happening in the beauty world. With the
Speaker 3: Beauty Edit.
Speaker 5: Hello and welcome to the Beauty Edit. I'm Molly and
Speaker 5: I'm Cass.
Speaker 6: And today we're asking the question the Internet cannot stop asking,
Speaker 6: which is why so many famous men suddenly look almost
Speaker 6: like themselves, but not quite.
Speaker 1: Not quite.
Speaker 5: We're also going to talk about whether a collagen mask
Speaker 5: is secretly the world's best spot cover up. I'm a
Speaker 5: little torn on this one.
Speaker 6: And then I've been in the bathroom all morning putting
Speaker 6: Brunsa on my ear, so we're going.
Speaker 1: To talk about that too. I can't wait, I can't wait.
Speaker 5: Let's get stuck in. So first up, we're going to
Speaker 5: talk about the men.
Speaker 6: I'm sure that you guys have seen on your social
Speaker 6: media when you're looking at celebrities that some of the
Speaker 6: men appear to have have a bit of a wide
Speaker 6: eye looked to them. Some of the people that have
Speaker 6: been questioned, and we have to preface that these people
Speaker 6: have not said if they've had anything done, include the
Speaker 6: likes of Bradley Cooper, Ryan Gosling, Adam Levine.
Speaker 1: And Jim Carrey. And Jim Carrey.
Speaker 5: One thing we should say before we get into this
Speaker 5: conversation cas obviously, what we're about to talk about. We're
Speaker 5: not recommending it, we're not promoting it.
Speaker 1: No, we're just talking about it in pop culture.
Speaker 5: That's right, So simply a discussion point.
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of.
Speaker 6: A shift happening in Hollywood, and a lot of people
Speaker 6: in the plastic surgery world are talking about something called
Speaker 6: a male bleathropacity, which is basically a surgery on the eyelid.
Speaker 5: So this is the surgery where we'd normally see someone
Speaker 5: with excess skin that skin is removed.
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly. We've talked about women and plastic surgery as
Speaker 6: topics in culture for decade, decade, for decades, but when
Speaker 6: we're talking about pop culture and celebrities and plastic surgery,
Speaker 6: men have never really come into this kind of social discussion.
Speaker 6: So I think that what we're really seeing is a
Speaker 6: change here of men allegedly having the surgery done. And
Speaker 6: it was discussed recently by Terry from.
Speaker 5: Botched Terry debro Love Terry. So Terry went on the
Speaker 5: Stiff Socks podcast and he was talking about all sorts
Speaker 5: of surgery things, but he was talking about the increase
Speaker 5: in seeing men on red carpets who have allegedly Again
Speaker 5: he can't even say whether they've had this it's called
Speaker 5: an upper bless is the term that they're throwing around,
Speaker 5: and mentioned a few of these celebrity names that he
Speaker 5: thinks probably have had it done exactly.
Speaker 6: So what he was kind of saying, which I thought
Speaker 6: was really interesting, is that plastic surgery has traditionally been
Speaker 6: a feminine domain, and so this particular surgery has kind
Speaker 6: of historically been designed to impact a female anatomy, So
Speaker 6: that is to do with the tarsal platforms, so the
Speaker 6: strip of skin between the lashes and the eyelid. In women,
Speaker 6: a larger tassel platform is often considered an aesthetic ideal,
Speaker 6: whereas in men, having that visible tassel is less typical.
Speaker 1: So what he was kind of.
Speaker 6: Saying is that potentially this type of tweak is not
Speaker 6: being catered to the men that are having it, and
Speaker 6: so that is where you're getting this kind of like refreshed,
Speaker 6: wide eyed look and saying goodbye to the silvery fox,
Speaker 6: you know, kind of hooded, dark and daring eyelid that
Speaker 6: we associate these men with, you know, and that they've
Speaker 6: typically had in the past, or that we've been used to.
Speaker 5: When he sort of named these guys that we're talking about.
Speaker 5: He said that typically they would all normally have a
Speaker 5: hooded eye, but it's.
Speaker 6: Just not how we're used to seeing them, I think,
Speaker 6: and that's kind of what his point was. And interestingly,
Speaker 6: Molly Bailey, who's a board certified physician, spoke about this,
Speaker 6: saying that blef pasty depends on the candidate.
Speaker 5: I think as well. Obviously this time of year, we've
Speaker 5: just had a whole batch of red carpets. You know,
Speaker 5: we've gone through award season, we've ended in met Gala,
Speaker 5: and that's where we've seen this real increase in these
Speaker 5: men walking red carpet not looking quite like themselves. And
Speaker 5: I think that's bringing all of this to the.
Speaker 1: Four one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: And you know, I think we always need to flag
Speaker 6: that we've spent years dissecting women's faces on the red carpet.
Speaker 6: So gentlemen, welcome to the conversation.
Speaker 5: Exactly all right, Cas, you have found actually a couple
Speaker 5: of hacks.
Speaker 6: Let's break them down. My TikTok is right with hacks
Speaker 6: at the moment. I think everyone's just needing something a
Speaker 6: little quick and a little fun. And the first one
Speaker 6: was applying a mask over your pimples that basically seals
Speaker 6: them in under your makeup, which on the tin sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: It does, but I mean we'll get into it.
Speaker 6: It's a little bit more complicated than that. So basically
Speaker 6: people on TikTok are using the metacube collagen night wrapping
Speaker 6: mask over spots before big events. So it's essentially being
Speaker 6: used like an oversized pimple patches, like a clear mask
Speaker 6: that dries down and creates like a seal over your skin,
Speaker 6: similar to like a peel off mask.
Speaker 1: Or like a glad wrap. Let's sticks to the fes exactly.
Speaker 6: So there's some really viral tiktoks of girls applying it
Speaker 6: under their makeup, putting on their fuebeat and looking absolutely
Speaker 6: flawless that you cannot see any blemishes under this, so
Speaker 6: it does present with a really beautiful airbrush look.
Speaker 5: It does. I mean, my favorite part of these videos
Speaker 5: is then when they get their toyses and they peel
Speaker 5: also sartify, it's like, oh, it's.
Speaker 6: So good, and they compare it to the pimple patches,
Speaker 6: which you can very clearly see. And you know, we're
Speaker 6: in an era of accepting piple patches, as we've previously talked.
Speaker 5: About the podcast printed with all sorts of printed with colors.
Speaker 6: But if you did have a big event and you
Speaker 6: did want to patch on underneath your makeup, this is
Speaker 6: being presented as an option, But males, is it all.
Speaker 1: It's cracked up to be?
Speaker 5: Look, I mean the particular video that you and I
Speaker 5: were looking at you like you can you can't see
Speaker 5: that there's something underneath her makeup. You cannot possibly put
Speaker 5: something underneath your makeup like this, which is essentially almost
Speaker 5: creating like a plastic film without being able to see
Speaker 5: it unless you were to put it over your whole face.
Speaker 5: And then because there's that inconsistency exactly.
Speaker 6: And if you move as well, if you smile and
Speaker 6: you get it like a little line in your smile line,
Speaker 6: that's where your blemish is. I think you're definitely going
Speaker 6: to see it wrinkle as well. So in a photo.
Speaker 6: Great for five minutes maybe, but I think as.
Speaker 1: An actual fix.
Speaker 5: Yeah on TikTok, Yeah amazing.
Speaker 1: But mol's you're a makeup artist. If you had a blemish,
Speaker 1: what would you do?
Speaker 5: Firstly, it depends on size of the pimple and kind
Speaker 5: of what state it's in, right, But if I'm thinking
Speaker 5: of a pimple that is, you know, a little bit
Speaker 5: dried out, bit sore, a bit red, right, you would
Speaker 5: cover it over with a green tinted cover all. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The reason for this is green is the opposite of
Speaker 5: red on the color wheel. It neutralizes the redness of
Speaker 5: the skin. That takes the color like kind of the
Speaker 5: the red out. Then you cover it over with a concealer,
Speaker 5: and then you basically layer it like really fine layers,
Speaker 5: makeup over and over, and then pat it down with
Speaker 5: a powder. Now sometimes obviously it depends on you. It's
Speaker 5: there's so many variables here, like one size fits all
Speaker 5: is certainly not the case here. So some people might
Speaker 5: have really dry skin if you powdered it, it would look.
Speaker 1: Really dry blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: But essentially, what you're trying to do is take the
Speaker 5: redness of the color out and neutralize it. One other
Speaker 5: tip is, if you've got a zip that is really
Speaker 5: quite raised, you know there's one a mountain, you can
Speaker 5: actually put a little bit of a lighter colored concealer
Speaker 5: or foundation around the outside. So do not put a
Speaker 5: light color on top of the zip, because think of it,
Speaker 5: the shadow exactly so think of your lightest color, whatever
Speaker 5: product it is, will be actually like a highlighter. You
Speaker 5: want to put that around the outside where it's flattened
Speaker 5: and it's almost raises in your contouring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your pimples. That's what we do here on your videos.
Speaker 5: I mean, cass Is also we should say that in
Speaker 5: this day and age, especially if you have whatever your
Speaker 5: skin is, you should never feel the need to cover
Speaker 5: it up. Please totally totally be comfortable in your own skin.
Speaker 6: Com'ty honestly, the way your pimples aren't proud I do.
Speaker 6: People don't even look at it. No, it's actually amazing
Speaker 6: how much they don't.
Speaker 5: I think in this day and age, every way that
Speaker 5: you present yourself is acceptable and accepted.
Speaker 1: So just be you exactly.
Speaker 5: But if you want to contour your pimples, you can.
Speaker 6: Speaking of contouring moles, people are contouring their.
Speaker 1: Ears now media, but I kind of back it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I actually do hot take. I actually do.
Speaker 6: So for everybody who hasn't been seeing this on their
Speaker 6: social media. Essentially, people are pulling their ears out slightly
Speaker 6: from their face by the lobe and popping a contour
Speaker 6: shade in the little gap between their lobe and the
Speaker 6: side of their face.
Speaker 5: It's almost conjuring the jaw and down.
Speaker 1: Onto the jaw a little bit.
Speaker 6: So it's basically to create that angle up towards the
Speaker 6: ear that accentuates the jaw line and makes.
Speaker 1: You look snatch well.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, there is obviously thanks to clavical.
Speaker 1: Everyone's looks maxing.
Speaker 5: Everyone looks maxing and obsessed with the jaw line.
Speaker 1: I mean cats.
Speaker 5: Look. I actually have to admit I tried it this
Speaker 5: morning because I knew I feel about it like what
Speaker 5: a waste? Oh I like it.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know, I think because I don't have
Speaker 6: a lot of definition there maybe or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I felt like it did kind of bring a new dimension.
Speaker 6: But also it took two since.
Speaker 1: It was like a fun thing to do, so I
Speaker 1: was like just for joy, ye know.
Speaker 6: But yeah, is it gonna give you like Angelina Jolly's jewel?
Speaker 1: I know, absolutely not. But I like a little bit.
Speaker 6: Of contour now and again, especially from going out, and
Speaker 6: I feel like this is kind of like a fun
Speaker 6: extra thing to add, but like it's not going to
Speaker 6: change your life, no, And.
Speaker 5: It's not going to change the actual exactly that said, Look,
Speaker 5: when it comes to conjouring, if you do it well,
Speaker 5: it really is incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But I will say to everybody out there who's trying
Speaker 6: an ear contour, make sure that you then cleanse your
Speaker 6: ears too, because all I can think about since I've
Speaker 6: started doing it is, oh my god, I don't really
Speaker 6: cut go right underneath my earl open I cleanse my face.
Speaker 6: So do I have all this like contraur there now?
Speaker 6: So now I'm cleaning my els in the shower.
Speaker 1: Guys, what am I doing? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think you could probably leave the ear conjuring to tigtok.
Speaker 5: All right, well we have hit all the big topics
Speaker 5: of the week for the Beauty edit. They thank you
Speaker 5: for listening. After the break, Kelly and Amy are back
Speaker 5: and they are going to be answering all of your questions,
Speaker 5: most importantly about PDRN. What is it, how does it work,
Speaker 5: and what's it about? And if you're wondering how to
Speaker 5: make your makeup last without looking dry and flaky all day,
Speaker 5: stay tuned.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 2: You ask many questions.
Speaker 4: All righty, let's get into our first question, which is
Speaker 4: Kylie has sent us An sos. Okay, we are here
Speaker 4: to help stop the train I want to get off.
Speaker 4: She says, What in the world is PDRN and why
Speaker 4: is it in skincare everywhere I look?
Speaker 2: Is it a peptide? What is a peptide?
Speaker 4: But really I aim to educate myself on ingredients that
Speaker 4: will benefit my skin, but I cannot keep up. Please
Speaker 4: tell me if PDRN is good, what it does in brackets?
Speaker 2: Is it active? And where does it.
Speaker 4: Go in all of the skincare steps. Okay, Kelly, she's
Speaker 4: gonna say it off the bout r e kel What
Speaker 4: is PDRN?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm playing Lee today, so I'm being the scientist that
Speaker 3: doesn't giggle about salmon jizz.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll be I'll we Kelly.
Speaker 3: The funny thing is it's actually not, but we're going
Speaker 3: to get to that later. So PDRN officially stands for
Speaker 3: polydoxy rye bo new cleo.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I stuffed that up.
Speaker 3: Poly d ox e rye bo new cleo tide, which
Speaker 3: is a DNA fragment. Now, the use of DNA fragments
Speaker 3: in medicine. The crazy thing is is that people talking
Speaker 3: about this is if it's new and fair enough, like
Speaker 3: I would have assumed it was new too, But it
Speaker 3: has been researched and used in medicine since the eighties,
Speaker 3: and the earliest were actually derived from trout, a trout,
Speaker 3: not a salmon, if you will, But it is most
Speaker 3: commonly now taken from salmon because it is way more
Speaker 3: highly compatible with human skin than any other fish.
Speaker 1: I also don't know why it's a fish, but there
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 3: So it has become popular in aesthetics and skincare because
Speaker 3: it's associated with skin repair, hydration, collagen support, inflammation reduction,
Speaker 3: and improving overall skin quality and healing, which is obviously
Speaker 3: all things that we're always looking for. And there's a
Speaker 3: lot of science behind this. But as we move away
Speaker 3: from you know, like when injectibles first became a thing
Speaker 3: and a lot of people had like the really puffed
Speaker 3: up duck lips and you know, big cheeks and frozen
Speaker 3: foreheads and that sort of thing. We've sort of moved
Speaker 3: away from that when it comes to injectibles, and where
Speaker 3: after just the best version of our skin well hydrated
Speaker 3: as well well hydrated exactly true.
Speaker 4: Seems back to hydration and hydration in the lower layers
Speaker 4: of the skin.
Speaker 2: And it does feel like with a lot of these
Speaker 2: things too that.
Speaker 4: I've noticed having worked, you know, as have you in
Speaker 4: beauty over the last decade or so, there's always like
Speaker 4: a new ingredient, a new thing with a hard to
Speaker 4: pronounce name.
Speaker 2: Even probably fifteen.
Speaker 4: Years ago, you wouldn't have heard the average gal talking
Speaker 4: about harleronic acid, But here we are, and it feels
Speaker 4: like that's a really just a stock standard thing.
Speaker 2: So I do think.
Speaker 4: It's almost boring. Yeah, totally. We're always looking for new
Speaker 4: and next. So I do think that pdarian is going
Speaker 4: to be just as commonplace as halaronic acid, you know,
Speaker 4: if it's not already in a lot of places.
Speaker 1: And that's exciting.
Speaker 3: Like that's why I find the skincare industry and the
Speaker 3: beauty industry in general is so exciting because there is
Speaker 3: just so much research and science that is constantly evolving.
Speaker 3: But as I mentioned, and you know, we're talking about, oh,
Speaker 3: it's the newest buzzword, but it isn't actually new. So
Speaker 3: it was studied and used in medicine for its wound
Speaker 3: healing and tissue repair properties before it became trendy. It
Speaker 3: was used in regenerative medicine, wound care and healing damaged tissue,
Speaker 3: and then overtime. Obviously, the aesthetics clinics were like, hey,
Speaker 3: we can use this in injectable treatments because of its
Speaker 3: ability to support that skin regeneration and recovery. Now, this
Speaker 3: is where the salmon sperm facial absolutely started blowing up,
Speaker 3: and the headlines were everywhere, even though technically it's purified
Speaker 3: DNA fragments not sperm cells themselves, which you know is
Speaker 3: a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Jennifer Aniston, I feel like that. I
Speaker 4: remember that headline coming out about the salmon sperm facial
Speaker 4: that when she first started doing press interviews again, she
Speaker 4: talked about it, and I do think, like, we love
Speaker 4: a shock factor, but we.
Speaker 2: Loved our snail gears. Now we love our salmon gears,
Speaker 2: you know, all of this kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it was a little bit
Speaker 4: misleading because it's like, oh, it's the shock factor one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and ASO, did you ever listen to the episode
Speaker 3: I did with doctor Naomi and she was talking about
Speaker 3: PDRN and I was like, I just need to ask,
Speaker 3: are we jacking off the Salmons and she.
Speaker 1: Was like, that is actually a great question. Also a crime.
Speaker 3: No, But after that episode that many people messaged me
Speaker 3: and were like, thank you so much for asking that,
Speaker 3: because I've always wandered but didn't want to ask, and
Speaker 3: I'm like.
Speaker 1: I will always ask the question.
Speaker 3: PDRN then became really popular in Korean esthetic medicine, which
Speaker 3: if it starts, if something starts blowing up in Korea, obviously,
Speaker 3: then we are going to see it everywhere in Western
Speaker 3: medicine because it is used in skin boosters, injectable rejuvenation treatments,
Speaker 3: and post procedure healing. When it comes to topical application,
Speaker 3: the skin barrier is designed to actually keep large molecules out,
Speaker 3: so the actual moloar of PDRN are way too big
Speaker 3: to actually be absorbed into the skin, so they're not
Speaker 3: going to penetrate your skin probably when being topically absorbed. Plus,
Speaker 3: this is a fun fact I recently learned the molecules
Speaker 3: are actually highly repulsive, and not repulsive in like a
Speaker 3: gross word, but repulsive in so you know how if
Speaker 3: you have two magnets and you try to join them together,
Speaker 3: you actually can't. I'm mimicking two magnets being put together,
Speaker 3: and they're just repelling each other. That's what I mean
Speaker 3: by high repulsion. So the top layer of your skin
Speaker 3: will repel those molecules way, so they're just not going
Speaker 3: to be absorbed topically. So while injectibles then bypass the
Speaker 3: barrier entirely. When brands do talk about topical PDRN, the
Speaker 3: big question is what tech have they used to ensure
Speaker 3: that the molecule can actually penetrate the skin in any way,
Speaker 3: let alone like.
Speaker 1: Effectively at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like any active ingredient, like any vitamin, a,
Speaker 4: hyleronic acid, peptides, all of these things. The delivery method, Like,
Speaker 4: it's not enough to just have the ingredient listed on
Speaker 4: the front of the bottle. It's all about the formulation.
Speaker 4: The sophisticated technology. Usually actives like PRN and other actives
Speaker 4: will be encapsulated within something else that can actually bypass
Speaker 4: all of what you were just talking about and get
Speaker 4: in there. So, like any skincare, I feel my personal
Speaker 4: opinion on PDRN is it's all about the formula rather.
Speaker 2: Than just the ingredient itself.
Speaker 4: It's really popular for under the eye area because that's
Speaker 4: where the skin is thinnest. We see signs of aging
Speaker 4: around the eyes, and dehydration can have a big impact
Speaker 4: on how kind of tired your under eyes look. I'm
Speaker 4: not opposed to using it in my topical skin care,
Speaker 4: but in terms.
Speaker 7: Of where it fits, that's the other hard part, because
Speaker 7: our routines are already so stuffed to the brim with
Speaker 7: stuff and ingredients and products and steps and layers that
Speaker 7: it is hard to know.
Speaker 4: And I would be going for a product that includes
Speaker 4: PDR and amongst other ingredients because I'm not doing a
Speaker 4: twelve step Korean skin care routine where I can be
Speaker 4: applying assets and mists and tonas and serums and ampules
Speaker 4: and all of these things. So yeah, I would definitely
Speaker 4: use it in kind of like an all rounder hydration
Speaker 4: or a peptide, like an all rounder kind of quote
Speaker 4: unquote antiaging kind of step in your routine.
Speaker 3: And I think because it's technically considered an active, that
Speaker 3: that's where people get confused as well, because they're like,
Speaker 3: but where can it fit. It's not like other actives
Speaker 3: where you shouldn't mix it.
Speaker 4: It's not a resurfacing product, so like a vitamin A,
Speaker 4: glycolic acid, alpha hydroxy acids, beta hydroxy acids.
Speaker 2: They are all actually kind.
Speaker 4: Of removing those dead, crusty skin cells from the top
Speaker 4: and even sometimes creating a little bit of that micro
Speaker 4: trauma to the skin to actually prompt that regeneration response.
Speaker 4: Whereas I would think of PDRN more in your brain,
Speaker 4: put it in the same category as hyaluronic acid, for example.
Speaker 4: I know we spoke about that before, or peptides that
Speaker 4: they're a bit more quiet about the work that they're doing.
Speaker 2: Where's the other one to writ more kind of bang bang.
Speaker 3: All right, after the break, we are helping a ub
Speaker 3: avoid the midday freakout when your glowing morning makeup seems
Speaker 3: to have gone mia and it's been replaced by dry,
Speaker 3: tired skin. If you've ever wondered how do I get
Speaker 3: my makeup to last all day without looking crusty? You
Speaker 3: will want to listen to this and may I just
Speaker 3: inject a little anecdote about netball?
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, I'll do it after the brain Oh, I.
Speaker 4: Can't wait, Okay, our next question? Hi you beauty, I
Speaker 4: feel like I can not win. I am not able
Speaker 4: to retouch my face throughout the day, so I need
Speaker 4: my foundation and makeup to last. My makeup does last,
Speaker 4: but I look dry and tired by the middle of
Speaker 4: the day. If I do the glowy skin tint, slush,
Speaker 4: dewy makeup thing, it disappears off my face or looks
Speaker 4: messy in a few hours. How do I apply my
Speaker 4: makeup to last without it looking crusty as you say?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're excited to hear about my netball.
Speaker 2: Ancdote like on the edge of my seat, tell.
Speaker 1: Me, okay, great. So it was about two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: This is just that I'm, you know, proving my level
Speaker 3: of authority on this question.
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, I was recording all day.
Speaker 3: I had to do a video, like I did my
Speaker 3: makeup first thing in the morning at you know, six
Speaker 3: thirty am. And anyone that is watching YouTube all has
Speaker 3: seen my face on socials.
Speaker 1: Nothing is ever matt on my face.
Speaker 3: I want to look like I'm about to go running
Speaker 3: like a disco ball.
Speaker 1: I do not enjoy that at all. So I had
Speaker 1: this huge full day and.
Speaker 3: Then I had a seven to fifteen game of netball.
Speaker 3: I played center for the entire game. So just bear
Speaker 3: in mind how sweaty and hot I was. I finished
Speaker 3: the game and Amy a lovely young lass. She was like,
Speaker 3: what the hell, Kelly, you look like your makeup has
Speaker 3: not moved. So that's my level of authority. Okay, I
Speaker 3: know how to keep the glow and like, also, look
Speaker 3: like you're wearing makeup all day without it disappearing.
Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me exactly what you did. What did
Speaker 2: you do that day?
Speaker 3: I've sung it from the rooftops before, but I cannot
Speaker 3: stress the importance of skin prep. I know that's boring
Speaker 3: because you're sick of people saying it. I've got chronically
Speaker 3: dry skin. If I only put one serum on, a
Speaker 3: one moisturizer on under my makeup, I would actually just
Speaker 3: be flake city in half an hour. So there are
Speaker 3: a couple of different ways that I skin prep, depending
Speaker 3: on how long I have and whether I'm in a
Speaker 3: r to be fair, unless it's on the weekend, I'm
Speaker 3: always in a rush. So I generally will use the
Speaker 3: Dermologica microfoliant when I'm wanting to do makeup and when
Speaker 3: I'm wanting it to last, because that is just going
Speaker 3: to really quickly. I don't then have to double cleanse,
Speaker 3: just the one cleanse. But because it's a little bit
Speaker 3: granular and it sort of emulsifies into a paste. It
Speaker 3: gets all of my skin care off from the night
Speaker 3: before and really just makes my base because it's gotten
Speaker 3: everything off, and it's that mild exfoliator physical exfoliator, so
Speaker 3: every little bit of texture is then off my face.
Speaker 3: Then I will go in with one to two hydrating
Speaker 3: serums and then a moisturizer. Then I will also prime
Speaker 3: my skin. And I really believe in primer because I
Speaker 3: think that the way that they're they're not for everyone,
Speaker 3: but the way that they've been formulated, especially for us
Speaker 3: dry dehydrated gales that want our makeup to last or
Speaker 3: day without going like feral. They just make your makeup stick,
Speaker 3: They make it last, they make it not go yucky.
Speaker 3: If you do have time, I would suggest doing a
Speaker 3: five minute facial massage with like an oil or just
Speaker 3: something super slippy, so maybe a really nice serum or
Speaker 3: an oil. You can use your fingers, you can use
Speaker 3: a washer, you can use the face balls, whatever you're doing,
Speaker 3: either that or like you know, even one of those
Speaker 3: nice sheet masks. But I would still always massage in
Speaker 3: because then you're sort of bringing the blood to the
Speaker 3: surface of the skin. You're just making it look more alive,
Speaker 3: more healthy, more juicy, and you're also prepping it and
Speaker 3: really getting all of those products in so that then
Speaker 3: your makeup isn't going to just be sitting on your skin.
Speaker 3: It's going to have a better job at sort of
Speaker 3: making you not look like you're wearing heaps of makeup.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Yes, you want it all to
Speaker 2: be one with the skin.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Another thing is there's a very fine line between looking
Speaker 3: really caking and krusty by midday or being so glowy
Speaker 3: and dewey that you don't look like you've got any
Speaker 3: makeup at all. So I use powder extremely sparingly. This
Speaker 3: is a case by case depending on how dry your
Speaker 3: skin is. If you're oily, you can use way more
Speaker 3: powder than me. I use the tiniest little bit of
Speaker 3: just oppressed translucent so it's got no color. Powder Under
Speaker 3: my eyes, where I have more darkness, you know, there's
Speaker 3: a lot more movement there, so the makeup moves more.
Speaker 3: I do a tiny bit between my eyebrows, on my
Speaker 3: chin and on the sides of my nose, just because
Speaker 3: I find that those are the areas that my makeup
Speaker 3: will tend to move throughout the day because of movement,
Speaker 3: because of maybe that little bit of sweat, even though
Speaker 3: I don't really get sweat, and because that's the areas
Speaker 3: that I touch my face the most, especially under my
Speaker 3: nose when I get itchies. So I just use a
Speaker 3: teeny tiny little bit of powder there. The rest of
Speaker 3: your face, just leave it, use cream products. And if
Speaker 3: you are setting with a powder bronze or blush, once again,
Speaker 3: just use the teeniest, tiniest little amounts because powder is
Speaker 3: what makes your skin look crusty through the day. Then
Speaker 3: make up setting sprays and mists always carry one. I
Speaker 3: always have that little It's my current favor. It's been
Speaker 3: my favor for a while, just to pop in my bag,
Speaker 3: the little red turtur on can try.
Speaker 4: I haven't, but I heard you talk about it, I
Speaker 4: think the other day.
Speaker 3: I have not stopped talking about it since I got
Speaker 3: And also I've got like this little bottle. I carry
Speaker 3: it with me most days and it has just lasted forever.
Speaker 3: It just juices up your face and sets your makeup
Speaker 3: without it being sort of sticky and stiff and moving
Speaker 3: your makeup around. But like there are so many good
Speaker 3: ones out on the market, so just having something to freshen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Two I love is the Whole Beauty Glow setting spray,
Speaker 4: which also has a bit of pigment in it, like
Speaker 4: a luminous it's like a Champagne kind of setting spray,
Speaker 4: but that it's really great and you can use that too,
Speaker 4: not just to set your makeup at the end. Is
Speaker 4: another tip is actually to be doing layers as you go,
Speaker 4: so you know, because it's like you're not just trying
Speaker 4: to put a mask over the top at the end.
Speaker 2: You really want it.
Speaker 4: As you were saying, you want the makeup to feel
Speaker 4: flexible with your skin. You've done your skin prep, then
Speaker 4: do your primer layer of spray, apply your foundation layer
Speaker 4: of spray, and you can buff it in with either
Speaker 4: a brush.
Speaker 2: Or your beauty blend or whatever you use to do
Speaker 2: your foundation.
Speaker 4: And it's just kind of like creating these layers that
Speaker 4: then will help it wear better throughout the day. Another
Speaker 4: one I love is the Morphi which I always forget
Speaker 4: about Morphi, but it's such an affordable, excellent professional makeup brand,
Speaker 4: and they have a mate version and a dewy version,
Speaker 4: so if you are on the earlier side, but the
Speaker 4: spray on that.
Speaker 2: Oh it does things to me. The mist is so most.
Speaker 1: Fine, fine and continuous. Oh so good, I just got
Speaker 1: child good.
Speaker 3: That's such a good point about setting each layer. And
Speaker 3: on your point about the sponge, well, this is something
Speaker 3: that I do that I just forgot that I did
Speaker 3: every now and then, Like if I'm doing proper makeup
Speaker 3: for a wedding or something, I actually, instead of running
Speaker 3: my sponge underwater because we always need our beauty sponge
Speaker 3: to be damp, I will just do like ten sprays
Speaker 3: of makeup setting spray. So then that's actually what I'm
Speaker 3: using to really press the foundation and conceal it into
Speaker 3: my skin, and it just yet it will literally last
Speaker 3: all day. So, as always, at the end of every
Speaker 3: Monday episode, we finish with a beauty bite, which might
Speaker 3: just be a how to, a little hack, a different
Speaker 3: way that we're using a product. It could be anything
Speaker 3: that we think is helpful related to beauty.
Speaker 1: So what is yours?
Speaker 4: So my beauty bite is something that is relatively new
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 2: I thought my skin was dry before.
Speaker 4: It's actually like crazy how much the weather can impact
Speaker 4: your skin, as well as just being in air con
Speaker 4: or heating all day. I'm just finding that I can't
Speaker 4: get away with not actually putting a bit of attension
Speaker 4: into my skin.
Speaker 2: And one of those areas in particular is the underrye area.
Speaker 4: You can't see it on this camera, but I have
Speaker 4: a bit of pigmentation, especially bet on my driver's side. Guys,
Speaker 4: it's so true what they say about some damage on
Speaker 4: the driver's.
Speaker 2: Side of your face.
Speaker 4: I was in America semi recently, humble Brag, and.
Speaker 2: I ran around in a Sephora.
Speaker 4: It's where I came across these reusable silicon I masks
Speaker 4: and there. Essentially they look exactly like the underried sheet
Speaker 4: mask patches that you would buy in a tub of
Speaker 4: pre soaked serum, but they're made of silicon and they're reusable.
Speaker 4: So essentially they look a bit like those shminkles under
Speaker 4: ie things, but they're much thinner. They're kind of stretchy,
Speaker 4: almost like Latex Minor from the brand called Dew, which
Speaker 4: is a very cool girl brand. The thing that I
Speaker 4: like about these is that I can use them with
Speaker 4: any I cream or icerum that you already have, or
Speaker 4: just plain old hydrating serum. Right, So what I like
Speaker 4: to do is I apply a decent whack of my
Speaker 4: hydrating skincare.
Speaker 2: Then I'll do extra under the eyes and I.
Speaker 4: Put the silicon patch over the top and it just
Speaker 4: it doesn't dry out.
Speaker 2: So that's number one.
Speaker 4: It's really going to just kind of sit there and
Speaker 4: be like an ecclusive layer that allows your product to
Speaker 4: really penetrate. I probably wear them for maybe fifteen twenty
Speaker 4: minutes if I've woken up early enough. I just find
Speaker 4: it makes a huge difference. Then you take them off,
Speaker 4: you just rinse them with warm water, dry them off,
Speaker 4: pop them back in their little tin that they come in,
Speaker 4: and over time it's more economical. Obviously it's really good
Speaker 4: for the environment, but in general, if not, just under
Speaker 4: I patches is a great tip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really obsessed with these reusable ones.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll have to have a look at them.
Speaker 3: My beauty bite is that when you're traveling, you don't
Speaker 3: need to take I mean a lot of people probably
Speaker 3: know this, but you don't need to take your entire
Speaker 3: makeup kit because so many products are actually so much
Speaker 3: more multi use than you realize. And the example I'm
Speaker 3: going to give is I recently went for a fast
Speaker 3: overseas trip and listen. I didn't have any I literally
Speaker 3: had thirty kilos for five nights, which is diabolical. But
Speaker 3: instead of packing all my makeup, I took one palette.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked, and it was a small palette and I
Speaker 1: used her for everything.
Speaker 3: And so this is just your reminder of how multi
Speaker 3: use so many different makeup products are. So it was
Speaker 3: the a limited edition Charlotte Tilbury palette. So I ended
Speaker 3: up giving it to my girlfriend because I was like,
Speaker 3: people keep asking me what I've got on my face,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't even exist anymore. So you have it
Speaker 3: because I'm not being a helpful queen when I'm using
Speaker 3: something it doesn't exist anymore. But the bronzer shade in
Speaker 3: the palette, like it was such a small palate, But
Speaker 3: the bronzer shade I used to define the crease. Also
Speaker 3: as a bronzer you can use it more targeted to contour.
Speaker 3: I used it with an angled brush to define my brows.
Speaker 3: I used it as a liner along my upper lash line.
Speaker 3: Then the blush shade I used on my lids. You
Speaker 3: can mix it with a little bit of bronzer if
Speaker 3: you're worried about PINKAI used it on my cheeks on
Speaker 3: my lips with the cream version of it, and then
Speaker 3: the highlight shade, I press it into my lid as
Speaker 3: a shimmer. You can also use it if it's the
Speaker 3: more cream based, use it in the center of your
Speaker 3: lips to make your lip pop, use it as the
Speaker 3: actual highlighter. So it's just a reminder, I guess, to
Speaker 3: really play with makeup and remember that just because something's
Speaker 3: called a bronza doesn't mean that you only have to
Speaker 3: use it as a bronza. And you don't need to
Speaker 3: waste valuable real estate in your packing with unnecessary beauty
Speaker 3: items when you can just use one.
Speaker 2: Great tip. Love that.
Speaker 3: Thanks Kelly, oh anytime, Amy, and thank you so much
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