WEBVTT - Salmon In Skincare?! Everything You Need To Know About PDRN 0:00:08.234 --> 0:00:16.154 You're listening to I'm onm with mea podcast. Makeup is 0:00:16.194 --> 0:00:16.954 my therapy. 0:00:18.154 --> 0:00:20.954 I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. 0:00:24.194 --> 0:00:27.434 Hello and welcome to you beauty. This is the podcast 0:00:27.514 --> 0:00:28.154 for your Face. 0:00:28.474 --> 0:00:32.754 I'm Kelly McCarran and today all the way from Lovely Melbourne, 0:00:32.833 --> 0:00:36.634 I am joined by our glorious beauty editor Amy Clark. 0:00:36.833 --> 0:00:39.034 Hello, Hello, happy to be dialing in. 0:00:39.354 --> 0:00:42.074 I'm so excited to chat to you today. Lee is 0:00:42.153 --> 0:00:47.513 a little bit poorly today and as always our girl Amy, well, 0:00:47.754 --> 0:00:49.434 she hustled and made things happen. 0:00:49.593 --> 0:00:52.073 Yeah, I'm always I'm ready to go. 0:00:52.354 --> 0:00:55.353 So on today's episode, as always on a Monday, we 0:00:55.434 --> 0:00:59.633 are answering two questions sent in by our lovely ubies. Firstly, 0:00:59.754 --> 0:01:04.234 we are gonna demystify what exactly is PDRN and why 0:01:04.274 --> 0:01:07.034 we are seeing it everywhere? And then how to get 0:01:07.194 --> 0:01:10.034 your makeup to actually last all day without looking all 0:01:10.154 --> 0:01:13.154 dry and cracked and crusty. Plus, we both have a 0:01:13.194 --> 0:01:16.274 beauty bite as always to share with you, which includes 0:01:16.314 --> 0:01:19.794 a little bit of advice about not needing to overpack. 0:01:20.594 --> 0:01:22.554 But first let's. 0:01:22.354 --> 0:01:25.274 Hear what's been happening in the beauty world. With the 0:01:25.314 --> 0:01:25.954 Beauty Edit. 0:01:26.754 --> 0:01:29.914 Hello and welcome to the Beauty Edit. I'm Molly and 0:01:29.954 --> 0:01:30.994 I'm Cass. 0:01:30.954 --> 0:01:34.074 And today we're asking the question the Internet cannot stop asking, 0:01:34.114 --> 0:01:37.874 which is why so many famous men suddenly look almost 0:01:37.954 --> 0:01:40.394 like themselves, but not quite. 0:01:39.994 --> 0:01:41.074 Not quite. 0:01:41.554 --> 0:01:44.354 We're also going to talk about whether a collagen mask 0:01:44.554 --> 0:01:48.554 is secretly the world's best spot cover up. I'm a 0:01:48.594 --> 0:01:49.714 little torn on this one. 0:01:50.434 --> 0:01:52.914 And then I've been in the bathroom all morning putting 0:01:52.914 --> 0:01:54.194 Brunsa on my ear, so we're going. 0:01:54.194 --> 0:01:57.154 To talk about that too. I can't wait, I can't wait. 0:01:57.474 --> 0:01:59.914 Let's get stuck in. So first up, we're going to 0:01:59.914 --> 0:02:00.634 talk about the men. 0:02:01.034 --> 0:02:03.314 I'm sure that you guys have seen on your social 0:02:03.394 --> 0:02:06.074 media when you're looking at celebrities that some of the 0:02:06.194 --> 0:02:08.474 men appear to have have a bit of a wide 0:02:08.633 --> 0:02:11.594 eye looked to them. Some of the people that have 0:02:11.754 --> 0:02:14.114 been questioned, and we have to preface that these people 0:02:14.154 --> 0:02:16.754 have not said if they've had anything done, include the 0:02:16.874 --> 0:02:20.354 likes of Bradley Cooper, Ryan Gosling, Adam Levine. 0:02:20.594 --> 0:02:22.314 And Jim Carrey. And Jim Carrey. 0:02:22.754 --> 0:02:24.554 One thing we should say before we get into this 0:02:24.634 --> 0:02:26.994 conversation cas obviously, what we're about to talk about. We're 0:02:27.034 --> 0:02:29.274 not recommending it, we're not promoting it. 0:02:29.394 --> 0:02:31.874 No, we're just talking about it in pop culture. 0:02:31.554 --> 0:02:33.794 That's right, So simply a discussion point. 0:02:33.954 --> 0:02:35.114 So there's a little bit of. 0:02:35.034 --> 0:02:39.914 A shift happening in Hollywood, and a lot of people 0:02:39.994 --> 0:02:43.994 in the plastic surgery world are talking about something called 0:02:44.034 --> 0:02:48.914 a male bleathropacity, which is basically a surgery on the eyelid. 0:02:49.234 --> 0:02:52.394 So this is the surgery where we'd normally see someone 0:02:52.474 --> 0:02:54.554 with excess skin that skin is removed. 0:02:54.794 --> 0:02:58.714 Yes, exactly. We've talked about women and plastic surgery as 0:02:58.754 --> 0:03:02.594 topics in culture for decade, decade, for decades, but when 0:03:02.634 --> 0:03:06.674 we're talking about pop culture and celebrities and plastic surgery, 0:03:06.754 --> 0:03:10.794 men have never really come into this kind of social discussion. 0:03:11.314 --> 0:03:14.074 So I think that what we're really seeing is a 0:03:14.194 --> 0:03:18.994 change here of men allegedly having the surgery done. And 0:03:19.074 --> 0:03:22.154 it was discussed recently by Terry from. 0:03:21.994 --> 0:03:26.274 Botched Terry debro Love Terry. So Terry went on the 0:03:26.314 --> 0:03:29.594 Stiff Socks podcast and he was talking about all sorts 0:03:29.594 --> 0:03:35.194 of surgery things, but he was talking about the increase 0:03:35.314 --> 0:03:38.874 in seeing men on red carpets who have allegedly Again 0:03:38.954 --> 0:03:41.914 he can't even say whether they've had this it's called 0:03:41.954 --> 0:03:45.154 an upper bless is the term that they're throwing around, 0:03:45.474 --> 0:03:48.194 and mentioned a few of these celebrity names that he 0:03:48.234 --> 0:03:51.034 thinks probably have had it done exactly. 0:03:51.474 --> 0:03:53.274 So what he was kind of saying, which I thought 0:03:53.314 --> 0:03:56.994 was really interesting, is that plastic surgery has traditionally been 0:03:57.354 --> 0:04:02.474 a feminine domain, and so this particular surgery has kind 0:04:02.474 --> 0:04:08.074 of historically been designed to impact a female anatomy, So 0:04:08.394 --> 0:04:10.594 that is to do with the tarsal platforms, so the 0:04:10.594 --> 0:04:13.994 strip of skin between the lashes and the eyelid. In women, 0:04:14.194 --> 0:04:19.034 a larger tassel platform is often considered an aesthetic ideal, 0:04:19.394 --> 0:04:23.034 whereas in men, having that visible tassel is less typical. 0:04:23.474 --> 0:04:24.674 So what he was kind of. 0:04:24.594 --> 0:04:29.234 Saying is that potentially this type of tweak is not 0:04:29.354 --> 0:04:32.033 being catered to the men that are having it, and 0:04:32.073 --> 0:04:35.074 so that is where you're getting this kind of like refreshed, 0:04:35.513 --> 0:04:39.713 wide eyed look and saying goodbye to the silvery fox, 0:04:40.113 --> 0:04:43.394 you know, kind of hooded, dark and daring eyelid that 0:04:43.433 --> 0:04:45.633 we associate these men with, you know, and that they've 0:04:45.674 --> 0:04:48.354 typically had in the past, or that we've been used to. 0:04:48.633 --> 0:04:51.674 When he sort of named these guys that we're talking about. 0:04:52.034 --> 0:04:54.914 He said that typically they would all normally have a 0:04:54.953 --> 0:04:56.314 hooded eye, but it's. 0:04:56.113 --> 0:04:58.273 Just not how we're used to seeing them, I think, 0:04:58.313 --> 0:05:01.234 and that's kind of what his point was. And interestingly, 0:05:01.873 --> 0:05:05.433 Molly Bailey, who's a board certified physician, spoke about this, 0:05:05.674 --> 0:05:09.313 saying that blef pasty depends on the candidate. 0:05:09.633 --> 0:05:11.833 I think as well. Obviously this time of year, we've 0:05:11.873 --> 0:05:14.794 just had a whole batch of red carpets. You know, 0:05:14.834 --> 0:05:17.833 we've gone through award season, we've ended in met Gala, 0:05:17.993 --> 0:05:21.234 and that's where we've seen this real increase in these 0:05:21.274 --> 0:05:24.753 men walking red carpet not looking quite like themselves. And 0:05:24.834 --> 0:05:27.313 I think that's bringing all of this to the. 0:05:27.234 --> 0:05:28.393 Four one hundred percent. 0:05:28.474 --> 0:05:29.954 And you know, I think we always need to flag 0:05:29.953 --> 0:05:32.834 that we've spent years dissecting women's faces on the red carpet. 0:05:32.914 --> 0:05:34.834 So gentlemen, welcome to the conversation. 0:05:35.474 --> 0:05:40.234 Exactly all right, Cas, you have found actually a couple 0:05:40.234 --> 0:05:40.873 of hacks. 0:05:41.513 --> 0:05:44.433 Let's break them down. My TikTok is right with hacks 0:05:44.433 --> 0:05:46.594 at the moment. I think everyone's just needing something a 0:05:46.633 --> 0:05:49.353 little quick and a little fun. And the first one 0:05:49.633 --> 0:05:54.113 was applying a mask over your pimples that basically seals 0:05:54.154 --> 0:05:58.153 them in under your makeup, which on the tin sounds amazing. 0:05:58.354 --> 0:06:01.954 It does, but I mean we'll get into it. 0:06:01.953 --> 0:06:04.474 It's a little bit more complicated than that. So basically 0:06:04.553 --> 0:06:08.034 people on TikTok are using the metacube collagen night wrapping 0:06:08.154 --> 0:06:12.474 mask over spots before big events. So it's essentially being 0:06:12.553 --> 0:06:15.153 used like an oversized pimple patches, like a clear mask 0:06:15.274 --> 0:06:18.394 that dries down and creates like a seal over your skin, 0:06:18.474 --> 0:06:20.633 similar to like a peel off mask. 0:06:20.794 --> 0:06:23.753 Or like a glad wrap. Let's sticks to the fes exactly. 0:06:24.393 --> 0:06:27.033 So there's some really viral tiktoks of girls applying it 0:06:27.073 --> 0:06:30.074 under their makeup, putting on their fuebeat and looking absolutely 0:06:30.113 --> 0:06:33.473 flawless that you cannot see any blemishes under this, so 0:06:33.633 --> 0:06:37.274 it does present with a really beautiful airbrush look. 0:06:37.313 --> 0:06:40.034 It does. I mean, my favorite part of these videos 0:06:40.034 --> 0:06:42.594 is then when they get their toyses and they peel 0:06:42.073 --> 0:06:46.153 also sartify, it's like, oh, it's. 0:06:45.953 --> 0:06:48.113 So good, and they compare it to the pimple patches, 0:06:48.154 --> 0:06:50.633 which you can very clearly see. And you know, we're 0:06:50.633 --> 0:06:53.473 in an era of accepting piple patches, as we've previously talked. 0:06:53.313 --> 0:06:56.593 About the podcast printed with all sorts of printed with colors. 0:06:56.674 --> 0:06:58.473 But if you did have a big event and you 0:06:58.513 --> 0:07:00.753 did want to patch on underneath your makeup, this is 0:07:00.753 --> 0:07:03.993 being presented as an option, But males, is it all. 0:07:03.873 --> 0:07:04.594 It's cracked up to be? 0:07:05.113 --> 0:07:07.833 Look, I mean the particular video that you and I 0:07:07.873 --> 0:07:10.794 were looking at you like you can you can't see 0:07:10.834 --> 0:07:14.834 that there's something underneath her makeup. You cannot possibly put 0:07:14.914 --> 0:07:18.754 something underneath your makeup like this, which is essentially almost 0:07:18.794 --> 0:07:23.114 creating like a plastic film without being able to see 0:07:23.393 --> 0:07:26.434 it unless you were to put it over your whole face. 0:07:26.474 --> 0:07:28.994 And then because there's that inconsistency exactly. 0:07:29.393 --> 0:07:31.114 And if you move as well, if you smile and 0:07:31.154 --> 0:07:33.194 you get it like a little line in your smile line, 0:07:33.194 --> 0:07:35.834 that's where your blemish is. I think you're definitely going 0:07:35.874 --> 0:07:39.353 to see it wrinkle as well. So in a photo. 0:07:39.554 --> 0:07:44.153 Great for five minutes maybe, but I think as. 0:07:43.994 --> 0:07:45.354 An actual fix. 0:07:45.634 --> 0:07:47.994 Yeah on TikTok, Yeah amazing. 0:07:48.274 --> 0:07:50.674 But mol's you're a makeup artist. If you had a blemish, 0:07:50.754 --> 0:07:51.314 what would you do? 0:07:51.874 --> 0:07:54.914 Firstly, it depends on size of the pimple and kind 0:07:54.914 --> 0:07:57.234 of what state it's in, right, But if I'm thinking 0:07:57.274 --> 0:08:00.234 of a pimple that is, you know, a little bit 0:08:00.314 --> 0:08:04.713 dried out, bit sore, a bit red, right, you would 0:08:04.874 --> 0:08:08.314 cover it over with a green tinted cover all. Yeah. 0:08:08.794 --> 0:08:11.953 The reason for this is green is the opposite of 0:08:11.994 --> 0:08:14.914 red on the color wheel. It neutralizes the redness of 0:08:14.953 --> 0:08:18.594 the skin. That takes the color like kind of the 0:08:19.194 --> 0:08:23.034 the red out. Then you cover it over with a concealer, 0:08:23.514 --> 0:08:26.793 and then you basically layer it like really fine layers, 0:08:27.154 --> 0:08:29.754 makeup over and over, and then pat it down with 0:08:30.034 --> 0:08:34.074 a powder. Now sometimes obviously it depends on you. It's 0:08:34.234 --> 0:08:37.473 there's so many variables here, like one size fits all 0:08:37.634 --> 0:08:39.914 is certainly not the case here. So some people might 0:08:39.954 --> 0:08:42.474 have really dry skin if you powdered it, it would look. 0:08:42.354 --> 0:08:43.994 Really dry blah blah blah. 0:08:44.154 --> 0:08:46.754 But essentially, what you're trying to do is take the 0:08:46.794 --> 0:08:51.114 redness of the color out and neutralize it. One other 0:08:51.234 --> 0:08:54.194 tip is, if you've got a zip that is really 0:08:54.274 --> 0:08:58.114 quite raised, you know there's one a mountain, you can 0:08:58.234 --> 0:09:02.874 actually put a little bit of a lighter colored concealer 0:09:03.194 --> 0:09:06.953 or foundation around the outside. So do not put a 0:09:07.154 --> 0:09:09.714 light color on top of the zip, because think of it, 0:09:10.274 --> 0:09:15.674 the shadow exactly so think of your lightest color, whatever 0:09:15.794 --> 0:09:18.594 product it is, will be actually like a highlighter. You 0:09:18.634 --> 0:09:21.754 want to put that around the outside where it's flattened 0:09:21.834 --> 0:09:25.953 and it's almost raises in your contouring. 0:09:25.554 --> 0:09:29.594 Yeah, your pimples. That's what we do here on your videos. 0:09:29.954 --> 0:09:33.194 I mean, cass Is also we should say that in 0:09:33.234 --> 0:09:36.874 this day and age, especially if you have whatever your 0:09:36.914 --> 0:09:39.834 skin is, you should never feel the need to cover 0:09:39.874 --> 0:09:43.554 it up. Please totally totally be comfortable in your own skin. 0:09:43.634 --> 0:09:45.594 Com'ty honestly, the way your pimples aren't proud I do. 0:09:45.794 --> 0:09:47.994 People don't even look at it. No, it's actually amazing 0:09:47.994 --> 0:09:48.714 how much they don't. 0:09:48.874 --> 0:09:52.034 I think in this day and age, every way that 0:09:52.114 --> 0:09:54.754 you present yourself is acceptable and accepted. 0:09:55.194 --> 0:09:57.274 So just be you exactly. 0:09:57.674 --> 0:09:59.794 But if you want to contour your pimples, you can. 0:10:01.714 --> 0:10:05.434 Speaking of contouring moles, people are contouring their. 0:10:05.274 --> 0:10:09.514 Ears now media, but I kind of back it. I 0:10:09.554 --> 0:10:12.953 don't know, I actually do hot take. I actually do. 0:10:13.514 --> 0:10:16.074 So for everybody who hasn't been seeing this on their 0:10:16.114 --> 0:10:19.914 social media. Essentially, people are pulling their ears out slightly 0:10:19.914 --> 0:10:22.754 from their face by the lobe and popping a contour 0:10:22.794 --> 0:10:27.074 shade in the little gap between their lobe and the 0:10:27.114 --> 0:10:27.914 side of their face. 0:10:27.994 --> 0:10:30.914 It's almost conjuring the jaw and down. 0:10:30.714 --> 0:10:31.953 Onto the jaw a little bit. 0:10:32.154 --> 0:10:36.194 So it's basically to create that angle up towards the 0:10:36.234 --> 0:10:39.314 ear that accentuates the jaw line and makes. 0:10:39.154 --> 0:10:40.634 You look snatch well. 0:10:40.714 --> 0:10:45.394 I mean yeah, there is obviously thanks to clavical. 0:10:46.274 --> 0:10:47.394 Everyone's looks maxing. 0:10:47.474 --> 0:10:50.634 Everyone looks maxing and obsessed with the jaw line. 0:10:50.994 --> 0:10:51.754 I mean cats. 0:10:51.874 --> 0:10:53.834 Look. I actually have to admit I tried it this 0:10:53.874 --> 0:10:56.114 morning because I knew I feel about it like what 0:10:56.234 --> 0:10:57.874 a waste? Oh I like it. 0:10:58.634 --> 0:11:00.754 Well, I don't know, I think because I don't have 0:11:00.834 --> 0:11:02.914 a lot of definition there maybe or something. 0:11:02.954 --> 0:11:03.354 I don't know. 0:11:03.434 --> 0:11:05.594 I felt like it did kind of bring a new dimension. 0:11:06.194 --> 0:11:07.834 But also it took two since. 0:11:07.434 --> 0:11:08.834 It was like a fun thing to do, so I 0:11:08.914 --> 0:11:10.394 was like just for joy, ye know. 0:11:10.994 --> 0:11:14.914 But yeah, is it gonna give you like Angelina Jolly's jewel? 0:11:15.034 --> 0:11:17.514 I know, absolutely not. But I like a little bit. 0:11:17.394 --> 0:11:19.674 Of contour now and again, especially from going out, and 0:11:19.714 --> 0:11:21.114 I feel like this is kind of like a fun 0:11:21.154 --> 0:11:22.634 extra thing to add, but like it's not going to 0:11:22.714 --> 0:11:24.114 change your life, no, And. 0:11:24.074 --> 0:11:29.834 It's not going to change the actual exactly that said, Look, 0:11:29.874 --> 0:11:32.114 when it comes to conjouring, if you do it well, 0:11:32.314 --> 0:11:34.434 it really is incredible. Yeah. 0:11:34.434 --> 0:11:36.714 But I will say to everybody out there who's trying 0:11:36.754 --> 0:11:39.554 an ear contour, make sure that you then cleanse your 0:11:39.594 --> 0:11:42.794 ears too, because all I can think about since I've 0:11:42.834 --> 0:11:45.114 started doing it is, oh my god, I don't really 0:11:45.194 --> 0:11:48.434 cut go right underneath my earl open I cleanse my face. 0:11:48.874 --> 0:11:50.914 So do I have all this like contraur there now? 0:11:50.994 --> 0:11:52.994 So now I'm cleaning my els in the shower. 0:11:52.994 --> 0:11:56.394 Guys, what am I doing? I don't know. 0:11:57.074 --> 0:12:01.114 I think you could probably leave the ear conjuring to tigtok. 0:12:02.714 --> 0:12:05.154 All right, well we have hit all the big topics 0:12:05.194 --> 0:12:07.394 of the week for the Beauty edit. They thank you 0:12:07.394 --> 0:12:11.394 for listening. After the break, Kelly and Amy are back 0:12:11.634 --> 0:12:14.714 and they are going to be answering all of your questions, 0:12:14.874 --> 0:12:18.794 most importantly about PDRN. What is it, how does it work, 0:12:18.874 --> 0:12:21.634 and what's it about? And if you're wondering how to 0:12:21.634 --> 0:12:24.994 make your makeup last without looking dry and flaky all day, 0:12:25.434 --> 0:12:26.034 stay tuned. 0:12:32.514 --> 0:12:34.794 I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything. 0:12:34.874 --> 0:12:35.994 You ask many questions. 0:12:37.314 --> 0:12:39.994 All righty, let's get into our first question, which is 0:12:40.434 --> 0:12:43.594 Kylie has sent us An sos. Okay, we are here 0:12:43.594 --> 0:12:46.234 to help stop the train I want to get off. 0:12:46.394 --> 0:12:49.954 She says, What in the world is PDRN and why 0:12:50.074 --> 0:12:51.834 is it in skincare everywhere I look? 0:12:52.234 --> 0:12:54.713 Is it a peptide? What is a peptide? 0:12:54.714 --> 0:12:57.314 But really I aim to educate myself on ingredients that 0:12:57.314 --> 0:13:00.514 will benefit my skin, but I cannot keep up. Please 0:13:00.554 --> 0:13:04.473 tell me if PDRN is good, what it does in brackets? 0:13:04.634 --> 0:13:06.594 Is it active? And where does it. 0:13:06.594 --> 0:13:10.994 Go in all of the skincare steps. Okay, Kelly, she's 0:13:11.034 --> 0:13:13.154 gonna say it off the bout r e kel What 0:13:13.354 --> 0:13:14.234 is PDRN? 0:13:14.794 --> 0:13:15.794 No, I'm not. 0:13:16.154 --> 0:13:20.314 I'm playing Lee today, so I'm being the scientist that 0:13:20.514 --> 0:13:23.034 doesn't giggle about salmon jizz. 0:13:23.274 --> 0:13:25.434 Okay, I'll be I'll we Kelly. 0:13:27.554 --> 0:13:30.394 The funny thing is it's actually not, but we're going 0:13:30.474 --> 0:13:34.594 to get to that later. So PDRN officially stands for 0:13:35.954 --> 0:13:38.754 polydoxy rye bo new cleo. 0:13:39.114 --> 0:13:40.874 Okay, well I stuffed that up. 0:13:42.234 --> 0:13:47.554 Poly d ox e rye bo new cleo tide, which 0:13:47.754 --> 0:13:51.754 is a DNA fragment. Now, the use of DNA fragments 0:13:51.794 --> 0:13:55.594 in medicine. The crazy thing is is that people talking 0:13:55.634 --> 0:13:57.394 about this is if it's new and fair enough, like 0:13:57.434 --> 0:13:59.674 I would have assumed it was new too, But it 0:13:59.754 --> 0:14:02.914 has been researched and used in medicine since the eighties, 0:14:03.234 --> 0:14:07.074 and the earliest were actually derived from trout, a trout, 0:14:07.394 --> 0:14:09.834 not a salmon, if you will, But it is most 0:14:09.914 --> 0:14:13.914 commonly now taken from salmon because it is way more 0:14:13.994 --> 0:14:18.114 highly compatible with human skin than any other fish. 0:14:18.194 --> 0:14:20.274 I also don't know why it's a fish, but there 0:14:20.314 --> 0:14:20.554 we go. 0:14:20.714 --> 0:14:24.154 So it has become popular in aesthetics and skincare because 0:14:24.434 --> 0:14:29.914 it's associated with skin repair, hydration, collagen support, inflammation reduction, 0:14:30.114 --> 0:14:33.434 and improving overall skin quality and healing, which is obviously 0:14:33.474 --> 0:14:36.714 all things that we're always looking for. And there's a 0:14:36.714 --> 0:14:39.314 lot of science behind this. But as we move away 0:14:39.354 --> 0:14:42.794 from you know, like when injectibles first became a thing 0:14:42.914 --> 0:14:45.434 and a lot of people had like the really puffed 0:14:45.514 --> 0:14:49.074 up duck lips and you know, big cheeks and frozen 0:14:49.194 --> 0:14:52.034 foreheads and that sort of thing. We've sort of moved 0:14:52.074 --> 0:14:55.354 away from that when it comes to injectibles, and where 0:14:55.394 --> 0:14:59.834 after just the best version of our skin well hydrated 0:14:59.994 --> 0:15:02.074 as well well hydrated exactly true. 0:15:02.154 --> 0:15:05.434 Seems back to hydration and hydration in the lower layers 0:15:05.474 --> 0:15:05.994 of the skin. 0:15:06.234 --> 0:15:08.314 And it does feel like with a lot of these 0:15:08.354 --> 0:15:09.154 things too that. 0:15:09.114 --> 0:15:12.354 I've noticed having worked, you know, as have you in 0:15:12.394 --> 0:15:15.554 beauty over the last decade or so, there's always like 0:15:15.674 --> 0:15:18.154 a new ingredient, a new thing with a hard to 0:15:18.154 --> 0:15:18.874 pronounce name. 0:15:19.354 --> 0:15:21.034 Even probably fifteen. 0:15:20.714 --> 0:15:24.034 Years ago, you wouldn't have heard the average gal talking 0:15:24.074 --> 0:15:26.914 about harleronic acid, But here we are, and it feels 0:15:26.954 --> 0:15:29.274 like that's a really just a stock standard thing. 0:15:29.674 --> 0:15:30.754 So I do think. 0:15:30.514 --> 0:15:33.914 It's almost boring. Yeah, totally. We're always looking for new 0:15:34.034 --> 0:15:36.954 and next. So I do think that pdarian is going 0:15:36.994 --> 0:15:40.354 to be just as commonplace as halaronic acid, you know, 0:15:40.394 --> 0:15:42.234 if it's not already in a lot of places. 0:15:42.394 --> 0:15:43.394 And that's exciting. 0:15:43.634 --> 0:15:48.194 Like that's why I find the skincare industry and the 0:15:48.194 --> 0:15:51.634 beauty industry in general is so exciting because there is 0:15:51.794 --> 0:15:55.754 just so much research and science that is constantly evolving. 0:15:55.994 --> 0:15:58.674 But as I mentioned, and you know, we're talking about, oh, 0:15:58.754 --> 0:16:01.234 it's the newest buzzword, but it isn't actually new. So 0:16:01.314 --> 0:16:04.234 it was studied and used in medicine for its wound 0:16:04.314 --> 0:16:08.914 healing and tissue repair properties before it became trendy. It 0:16:08.994 --> 0:16:13.474 was used in regenerative medicine, wound care and healing damaged tissue, 0:16:13.514 --> 0:16:17.314 and then overtime. Obviously, the aesthetics clinics were like, hey, 0:16:18.354 --> 0:16:21.274 we can use this in injectable treatments because of its 0:16:21.314 --> 0:16:26.114 ability to support that skin regeneration and recovery. Now, this 0:16:26.314 --> 0:16:32.074 is where the salmon sperm facial absolutely started blowing up, 0:16:32.114 --> 0:16:36.794 and the headlines were everywhere, even though technically it's purified 0:16:36.874 --> 0:16:42.314 DNA fragments not sperm cells themselves, which you know is 0:16:42.314 --> 0:16:43.394 a little bit disappointing. 0:16:43.514 --> 0:16:47.594 Yeah, I know, Jennifer Aniston, I feel like that. I 0:16:47.634 --> 0:16:51.274 remember that headline coming out about the salmon sperm facial 0:16:51.434 --> 0:16:54.474 that when she first started doing press interviews again, she 0:16:54.554 --> 0:16:58.034 talked about it, and I do think, like, we love 0:16:58.074 --> 0:16:59.954 a shock factor, but we. 0:16:59.954 --> 0:17:02.954 Loved our snail gears. Now we love our salmon gears, 0:17:03.114 --> 0:17:04.594 you know, all of this kind of thing. 0:17:04.954 --> 0:17:08.434 But at the same time, it was a little bit 0:17:08.434 --> 0:17:11.514 misleading because it's like, oh, it's the shock factor one. 0:17:12.554 --> 0:17:14.874 Yeah, and ASO, did you ever listen to the episode 0:17:14.874 --> 0:17:16.994 I did with doctor Naomi and she was talking about 0:17:16.994 --> 0:17:20.434 PDRN and I was like, I just need to ask, 0:17:20.514 --> 0:17:23.074 are we jacking off the Salmons and she. 0:17:23.274 --> 0:17:27.754 Was like, that is actually a great question. Also a crime. 0:17:28.154 --> 0:17:31.994 No, But after that episode that many people messaged me 0:17:32.034 --> 0:17:33.714 and were like, thank you so much for asking that, 0:17:33.754 --> 0:17:35.634 because I've always wandered but didn't want to ask, and 0:17:35.674 --> 0:17:36.034 I'm like. 0:17:35.994 --> 0:17:37.354 I will always ask the question. 0:17:39.154 --> 0:17:43.714 PDRN then became really popular in Korean esthetic medicine, which 0:17:44.114 --> 0:17:46.714 if it starts, if something starts blowing up in Korea, obviously, 0:17:46.754 --> 0:17:49.994 then we are going to see it everywhere in Western 0:17:50.034 --> 0:17:54.994 medicine because it is used in skin boosters, injectable rejuvenation treatments, 0:17:55.034 --> 0:17:59.674 and post procedure healing. When it comes to topical application, 0:18:00.154 --> 0:18:03.954 the skin barrier is designed to actually keep large molecules out, 0:18:04.474 --> 0:18:10.194 so the actual moloar of PDRN are way too big 0:18:10.274 --> 0:18:13.914 to actually be absorbed into the skin, so they're not 0:18:13.954 --> 0:18:17.754 going to penetrate your skin probably when being topically absorbed. Plus, 0:18:18.034 --> 0:18:21.634 this is a fun fact I recently learned the molecules 0:18:21.714 --> 0:18:25.754 are actually highly repulsive, and not repulsive in like a 0:18:25.794 --> 0:18:29.274 gross word, but repulsive in so you know how if 0:18:29.314 --> 0:18:32.194 you have two magnets and you try to join them together, 0:18:32.234 --> 0:18:35.674 you actually can't. I'm mimicking two magnets being put together, 0:18:35.714 --> 0:18:38.354 and they're just repelling each other. That's what I mean 0:18:38.394 --> 0:18:43.474 by high repulsion. So the top layer of your skin 0:18:44.274 --> 0:18:47.834 will repel those molecules way, so they're just not going 0:18:47.874 --> 0:18:52.074 to be absorbed topically. So while injectibles then bypass the 0:18:52.074 --> 0:18:56.194 barrier entirely. When brands do talk about topical PDRN, the 0:18:56.234 --> 0:19:00.074 big question is what tech have they used to ensure 0:19:00.074 --> 0:19:03.834 that the molecule can actually penetrate the skin in any way, 0:19:03.954 --> 0:19:05.034 let alone like. 0:19:04.994 --> 0:19:05.914 Effectively at all. 0:19:06.154 --> 0:19:10.513 Yeah, it's like any active ingredient, like any vitamin, a, 0:19:10.994 --> 0:19:15.154 hyleronic acid, peptides, all of these things. The delivery method, Like, 0:19:15.154 --> 0:19:17.354 it's not enough to just have the ingredient listed on 0:19:17.394 --> 0:19:20.034 the front of the bottle. It's all about the formulation. 0:19:20.714 --> 0:19:26.274 The sophisticated technology. Usually actives like PRN and other actives 0:19:26.274 --> 0:19:32.514 will be encapsulated within something else that can actually bypass 0:19:32.834 --> 0:19:34.754 all of what you were just talking about and get 0:19:34.794 --> 0:19:38.513 in there. So, like any skincare, I feel my personal 0:19:38.514 --> 0:19:42.714 opinion on PDRN is it's all about the formula rather. 0:19:42.554 --> 0:19:45.474 Than just the ingredient itself. 0:19:45.634 --> 0:19:48.273 It's really popular for under the eye area because that's 0:19:48.314 --> 0:19:51.513 where the skin is thinnest. We see signs of aging 0:19:51.554 --> 0:19:54.514 around the eyes, and dehydration can have a big impact 0:19:54.514 --> 0:19:58.434 on how kind of tired your under eyes look. I'm 0:19:58.434 --> 0:20:00.954 not opposed to using it in my topical skin care, 0:20:01.354 --> 0:20:01.994 but in terms. 0:20:01.874 --> 0:20:04.834 Of where it fits, that's the other hard part, because 0:20:04.834 --> 0:20:08.194 our routines are already so stuffed to the brim with 0:20:08.354 --> 0:20:12.154 stuff and ingredients and products and steps and layers that 0:20:12.194 --> 0:20:12.994 it is hard to know. 0:20:13.074 --> 0:20:15.754 And I would be going for a product that includes 0:20:15.874 --> 0:20:19.594 PDR and amongst other ingredients because I'm not doing a 0:20:19.634 --> 0:20:22.874 twelve step Korean skin care routine where I can be 0:20:22.954 --> 0:20:28.554 applying assets and mists and tonas and serums and ampules 0:20:28.594 --> 0:20:30.834 and all of these things. So yeah, I would definitely 0:20:30.954 --> 0:20:34.074 use it in kind of like an all rounder hydration 0:20:34.554 --> 0:20:37.914 or a peptide, like an all rounder kind of quote 0:20:37.994 --> 0:20:41.034 unquote antiaging kind of step in your routine. 0:20:41.274 --> 0:20:45.554 And I think because it's technically considered an active, that 0:20:45.554 --> 0:20:47.914 that's where people get confused as well, because they're like, 0:20:48.354 --> 0:20:51.154 but where can it fit. It's not like other actives 0:20:51.194 --> 0:20:52.354 where you shouldn't mix it. 0:20:52.354 --> 0:20:55.474 It's not a resurfacing product, so like a vitamin A, 0:20:56.114 --> 0:20:59.754 glycolic acid, alpha hydroxy acids, beta hydroxy acids. 0:20:59.794 --> 0:21:01.194 They are all actually kind. 0:21:01.114 --> 0:21:05.514 Of removing those dead, crusty skin cells from the top 0:21:05.994 --> 0:21:09.073