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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast from Mom and Me Out.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this spill your daily pop culture. Next, I'm

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Speaker 1: Laura Brodney and I'm m Burnham, and welcome to an

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Speaker 1: episode that has been months and months in the mating.

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Speaker 1: The build up has been intense. Even now, my heart

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Speaker 1: is beating so fast. I've been waiting so long for

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Speaker 1: this moment. Do you think I'm joking for the amount

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Speaker 1: we talk about this show?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I wish you were exactly well. Strap in everyone, grab

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Speaker 1: a beret or whatever they say in Patty Across. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: we're about to dance.

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Speaker 2: Grab a friend, cistel tower maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, famously, people in France don't like this show,

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Speaker 1: but here in Australia we love basic things and so

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Speaker 1: we love it.

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Speaker 2: We don't care.

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Speaker 1: So welcome to our brutally honest review of Emily in

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Speaker 1: Paris season five and Patty, that's how you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: say it like no one on the show pronounces it

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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 2: That is how you're meant to say it rolls off

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Speaker 2: the time, does so.

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Speaker 1: Obviously this came out back in December before we went

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Speaker 1: on our break, and we did a very extensive. We

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Speaker 1: can watch section on it there, but with a brilliant

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Speaker 1: honored review. If this is your first time here, this

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Speaker 1: is the episode where we dissect every moment of a

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Speaker 1: new season of TV or a movie. So we're doing

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Speaker 1: all the different spoilers, cliffhangers, the ending, what we think

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Speaker 1: is going to happen next. So we needed all of

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Speaker 1: you listeners at home to watch the full season multiple times,

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Speaker 1: hopefully like I did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do it. It's ten episodes.

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Speaker 1: We did everyone to watch it first, which is why

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Speaker 1: we're doing a brilli honored review now. And also just

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Speaker 1: a little behind the scenes. We did bump it last

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Speaker 1: week four Heated Rivalry. It was supposed to be it

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be our first week back, but then

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Speaker 1: Heated Rivalry just took off off our recommendations, I want

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Speaker 1: to say, became a worldwide sensation. So if you haven't

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Speaker 1: listened to that brilliant review, it's a masterpiece.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll link it in our show notes. It was

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Speaker 2: so much fun. We had Tina Burke, a pop culture

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Speaker 2: editor on who is literally so obsessed with that show exactly.

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Speaker 2: It was so much fun. But I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: like kind of I guess the beauty of like doing

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Speaker 2: badly honest reviews is because when we initially talk about

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Speaker 2: a show a movie, it's usually in a weekend watch

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Speaker 2: and movies that we didn't expect just explode. And we

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Speaker 2: and then we were like, oh, now we have to

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Speaker 2: do it bridly honest with Yeah, so we do give

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Speaker 2: you time to watch it. Emily and Paris had a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we knew Emily would wait that all reliable

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Speaker 1: show that we were watch together. So season five, the

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Speaker 1: steaks could not have been higher because for the first

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Speaker 1: time ever for zero stakes. No, the stakes were high

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Speaker 1: Emily because the first time ever we started off with

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Speaker 1: Emily not in Patty but in Rome Emily, and which

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Speaker 1: is what it came up on the title car. Did

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Speaker 1: you squeal? I didn't squeal, but I knew you would

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Speaker 1: have got like, I wish I could watch it with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, even though I know I'm not invited. It's like

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Speaker 2: a sacred sister Bond. I could be like a fly

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Speaker 1: No, because I went to because obviously I always this

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Speaker 1: But no, because she lives in a share house with

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Speaker 1: other doctors, so we had like a whole It was

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Speaker 1: kind of like grays Anatomy, but I'm assuming less hook cups.

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Speaker 1: So we just watched on like there's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: and Beetlejuice. Where As Beetle Juice two started, We're in

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Speaker 1: what's Beetlejuice about? The first movie? So I did something

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Speaker 1: in Paris season five, just before we started, I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: looking for. Okay, is everyone ready? Let's go? And then

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Speaker 1: mean there were questions like, what is happening? I was like,

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Speaker 2: You said she was in Paris?

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Speaker 1: Why is she doing this? All valid questions. So season

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Speaker 2: And it's like a very old school exclusive fashion label

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Speaker 1: Yes, And there was this whole thing too, because Emily

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Speaker 1: chase her to Rome and also the biggest cliffhanger of

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Speaker 1: biggest cliffhanger of all time. At the end of season four,

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Speaker 1: Emily starts to delete her Instagram and she deletes Emily

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Speaker 1: Emily and Marcello, like they let us know, showed away

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Speaker 1: the actress who plays Camille, whose name is Also, Camille

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Speaker 1: Darren Starr, the creator, and Alfie, played by Lucien la Vasconte.

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Speaker 1: I know when we were watching him not to skip ahead,

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Speaker 1: when I was on a couch with four other women

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Speaker 1: He's way too tiny to have such big arms. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna over because he's not like balance,

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Speaker 1: So Daran Sid didn't really go into it, but he

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Speaker 2: I really liked her. She's also the one who had

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Speaker 1: Also, everyone's like, and can you believe she's never acted before.

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Speaker 1: So Lucian lavescont we have written in as a full

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't know he wasn't engaged, he was he was going

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Speaker 1: to propose. That was a really beautiful scene where Emily, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Emily in Paris has beautiful scenes shocking where Emily had

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Speaker 2: And she also left her suitcase.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, you were really start on that.

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Speaker 2: Very because, as we learned from the Summer I Turned Pretty,

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Speaker 2: you can't just look at the suitcase around.

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Speaker 1: My god, our entire Emily are having such just different

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Speaker 1: I mean they would have plot demanded or we're having

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Speaker 2: It's like the Summer I Turn Pretty was an answer

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Speaker 1: Like this is a realistic moment of a woman leaving

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Speaker 2: But also that was like a wake up call to her, Yeah, going,

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Speaker 2: you can't just jump from this man to this man

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Speaker 1: Want he can and she does, which we love.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes when your heart broken, what do you have

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Speaker 2: to do? Leave?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly go to Rome. Yeah. So it's also yeah

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Speaker 1: good that Alfie was in as a main character because

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Speaker 1: because Lucas Bravo, who plays Gabrielle or hot Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say yeah, out of all of the

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Speaker 2: seasons of Lucas Bravo's hair, this one's the best one.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you what I've heard on the streets.

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Speaker 1: It's a week no no, no, no, maybe, but let's definitely

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Speaker 1: start that rumor.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you're about to break my heart right now.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: So we see if Emily's life is like she's she's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know what you mean.

437
00:18:08,474 --> 00:18:10,793
Speaker 2: I don't know if I loved the Rome episodes.

438
00:18:11,434 --> 00:18:13,634
Speaker 1: I loved. The thing is, I loved the Rome episodes

439
00:18:13,674 --> 00:18:16,634
Speaker 1: from season four. They felt magical, not just because like

440
00:18:16,714 --> 00:18:18,714
Speaker 1: we love seeing Rome, like obviously, but you can see that,

441
00:18:18,754 --> 00:18:20,833
Speaker 1: you know, on other movies and TV shows. It's more

442
00:18:20,834 --> 00:18:22,674
Speaker 1: so like last season when they went to Rome's, like

443
00:18:22,674 --> 00:18:25,594
Speaker 1: the energy change, the storyline change, and it just felt

444
00:18:25,634 --> 00:18:28,354
Speaker 1: so fresh and exciting. And this season it felt like

445
00:18:28,394 --> 00:18:30,514
Speaker 1: they never really committed to it, so it always felt

446
00:18:30,554 --> 00:18:32,994
Speaker 1: like we're just treading water in Rome. So it's making

447
00:18:32,994 --> 00:18:33,994
Speaker 1: me feel like such.

448
00:18:34,074 --> 00:18:36,914
Speaker 2: Thing they needed, something, Like they should have just kept

449
00:18:36,954 --> 00:18:40,634
Speaker 2: Emily by herself in Rome and maybe had communication between her,

450
00:18:41,274 --> 00:18:43,594
Speaker 2: or like traveling between Paris and Rome.

451
00:18:43,754 --> 00:18:45,833
Speaker 1: But I really wanted to see what she would be

452
00:18:45,954 --> 00:18:48,634
Speaker 1: like actually doing something by herself. Yeah, that's what I

453
00:18:48,634 --> 00:18:50,074
Speaker 1: thought we were going to see too, is her living

454
00:18:50,114 --> 00:18:52,434
Speaker 1: and Rome by herself and her relationship. And said, like,

455
00:18:52,474 --> 00:18:55,674
Speaker 1: it just felt like the same storylines and scenes in

456
00:18:55,714 --> 00:18:57,874
Speaker 1: a different scenarios in a different city. What you write

457
00:18:57,874 --> 00:19:00,714
Speaker 1: feel like a missed opportunity to now that we're this far

458
00:19:00,834 --> 00:19:03,434
Speaker 1: into the show season five, to see Emily in a

459
00:19:03,434 --> 00:19:04,234
Speaker 1: different environment.

460
00:19:04,314 --> 00:19:06,954
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then also making her work et they do

461
00:19:07,034 --> 00:19:11,073
Speaker 2: the actual opposite, like her constantly stuffing up her not

462
00:19:11,154 --> 00:19:13,754
Speaker 2: nailing any of her presentations when she would so easily

463
00:19:13,794 --> 00:19:16,394
Speaker 2: do it in Paris. Yeah, I think they just went

464
00:19:16,434 --> 00:19:17,514
Speaker 2: too far the other way.

465
00:19:17,834 --> 00:19:18,914
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, necessary.

466
00:19:19,154 --> 00:19:21,354
Speaker 2: I just want her to like have one happy time.

467
00:19:21,314 --> 00:19:25,314
Speaker 1: And the thing it all felt so kind of downtrodden.

468
00:19:25,434 --> 00:19:27,234
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I was also them saying like, we're not

469
00:19:27,274 --> 00:19:28,914
Speaker 2: going to be in Rome forever, so you can't like

470
00:19:28,994 --> 00:19:29,554
Speaker 2: it too much.

471
00:19:29,674 --> 00:19:31,354
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was always just like, but like, get

472
00:19:31,354 --> 00:19:32,874
Speaker 1: me to the next bit, Get me to the next bit.

473
00:19:33,474 --> 00:19:35,954
Speaker 1: So while she was in Rome, obviously a huge part

474
00:19:35,954 --> 00:19:40,033
Speaker 1: of the storyline was her romance with Macello, mart What

475
00:19:40,074 --> 00:19:42,793
Speaker 1: do you think of Machelo he or do you think

476
00:19:42,834 --> 00:19:44,674
Speaker 1: we got to see him naked the first time we

477
00:19:44,714 --> 00:19:49,674
Speaker 1: see him? It's a bear behind wandering through her room

478
00:19:49,714 --> 00:19:50,274
Speaker 1: and apartments.

479
00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:51,594
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good looking man.

480
00:19:51,714 --> 00:19:52,234
Speaker 1: Yeah.

481
00:19:52,274 --> 00:19:54,794
Speaker 2: I didn't like him for Emily. I knew he would

482
00:19:54,834 --> 00:19:55,954
Speaker 2: be a transit boyfriend.

483
00:19:56,194 --> 00:19:56,553
Speaker 1: Yeah.

484
00:19:56,594 --> 00:19:58,194
Speaker 2: I knew like she wouldn't be with him for long,

485
00:19:58,234 --> 00:20:00,314
Speaker 2: like it'll be like a summer fling. And I think

486
00:20:00,354 --> 00:20:04,434
Speaker 2: they tried to make it look more serious. Yeah, and

487
00:20:04,514 --> 00:20:05,594
Speaker 2: I didn't fall for it.

488
00:20:05,834 --> 00:20:08,194
Speaker 1: Well, they're practically living together that when we first see them.

489
00:20:08,434 --> 00:20:10,394
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's your lily, what else do.

490
00:20:10,434 --> 00:20:13,434
Speaker 1: You exactly and have some hot sex with an Italian man.

491
00:20:14,034 --> 00:20:17,313
Speaker 1: I really don't like him out of this season. I

492
00:20:17,394 --> 00:20:20,394
Speaker 1: liked him a lot last season, those episodes, especially in

493
00:20:20,514 --> 00:20:23,714
Speaker 1: Rome Top Tier. This season, I hated him, and I

494
00:20:23,714 --> 00:20:27,114
Speaker 1: can pinpoint the exact moment I started hating him. It

495
00:20:27,154 --> 00:20:28,073
Speaker 1: was a truffle hunting.

496
00:20:28,474 --> 00:20:29,474
Speaker 2: That was a bitch move.

497
00:20:29,554 --> 00:20:31,354
Speaker 1: That was a bitch move from that man.

498
00:20:31,434 --> 00:20:34,074
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially a man with sisters.

499
00:20:34,274 --> 00:20:36,994
Speaker 1: Yeah, he knew exactly what he was doing. You guys

500
00:20:36,994 --> 00:20:37,234
Speaker 1: don't know.

501
00:20:37,554 --> 00:20:39,594
Speaker 2: Man with sisters wouldn't do that, absolutely not.

502
00:20:39,714 --> 00:20:44,793
Speaker 1: Andrew wouldn't do that, absolutely not. That's my brother, and

503
00:20:44,834 --> 00:20:46,634
Speaker 1: hello to his wife, who doesn't listen to this spot.

504
00:20:48,474 --> 00:20:51,114
Speaker 1: So Emily is off to meet what she thinks is

505
00:20:51,154 --> 00:20:53,034
Speaker 1: a business meeting, and she has been because that's the

506
00:20:53,074 --> 00:20:54,954
Speaker 1: other thing. Like he's like, oh yeah, my mama rah,

507
00:20:55,074 --> 00:20:57,073
Speaker 1: and she's you can see she's getting stressed because she's like, no, no,

508
00:20:57,154 --> 00:21:00,194
Speaker 1: my whole existence in Rome, my whole job is me

509
00:21:00,314 --> 00:21:03,634
Speaker 1: hinged on having this business meeting with your mother, and

510
00:21:03,794 --> 00:21:06,114
Speaker 1: you are not helping, and you're also running the business.

511
00:21:06,154 --> 00:21:07,714
Speaker 1: So this is a business. So she think she's going

512
00:21:07,754 --> 00:21:10,754
Speaker 1: to a business lunch in a restaurant. That's made clear

513
00:21:10,914 --> 00:21:13,234
Speaker 1: that that is the plan. So she hasn't imagined anything.

514
00:21:13,274 --> 00:21:16,674
Speaker 1: She hasn't misread the situation. Then she goes downstairs and

515
00:21:16,754 --> 00:21:18,914
Speaker 1: Macello looks at her and goes, are they the shoes

516
00:21:18,914 --> 00:21:19,354
Speaker 1: you're wearing?

517
00:21:19,754 --> 00:21:19,914
Speaker 3: You know?

518
00:21:19,994 --> 00:21:21,834
Speaker 1: He's like, are you sure that they're right for lunch?

519
00:21:22,234 --> 00:21:26,554
Speaker 1: In all fairness, Emily, In all fairness to Emily, it

520
00:21:26,594 --> 00:21:29,554
Speaker 1: almost all fatness Emily Cooper, She's like, yeah, these shoes

521
00:21:29,554 --> 00:21:31,514
Speaker 1: are good for lunch. Of course they are, because they're

522
00:21:31,514 --> 00:21:35,313
Speaker 1: just nice heels, beautiful, they match her beautiful outfit. And he'

523
00:21:36,514 --> 00:21:40,034
Speaker 1: and he laughs and goes ha ha, okay, and that

524
00:21:40,194 --> 00:21:42,234
Speaker 1: is that was just like a bitch move because he

525
00:21:42,314 --> 00:21:44,434
Speaker 1: knows where they're going. They're not going to lunch, they're

526
00:21:44,474 --> 00:21:46,234
Speaker 1: not going to a sit down. She thinks she's going.

527
00:21:46,434 --> 00:21:49,394
Speaker 1: She's wearing a car to table shoe. We all have

528
00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:51,194
Speaker 1: those shoes, the shoes that you play to your closet

529
00:21:51,194 --> 00:21:52,634
Speaker 1: and you take a deep breath and you put them on,

530
00:21:52,954 --> 00:21:55,754
Speaker 1: and like, I'm wearing these downstairs in the car. I'm

531
00:21:55,794 --> 00:21:57,634
Speaker 1: walking to the table, and once they sit at the table,

532
00:21:57,634 --> 00:21:59,194
Speaker 1: I don't get up, and then I go back in

533
00:21:59,194 --> 00:22:01,313
Speaker 1: the car. And that's all these shoes can do. She

534
00:22:01,434 --> 00:22:03,514
Speaker 1: gets there to meet his mom and his sisters, who

535
00:22:03,594 --> 00:22:08,554
Speaker 1: don't like her, classic sister behavior. God, and the whole

536
00:22:08,594 --> 00:22:11,474
Speaker 1: family is already like kind of like pitting her and.

537
00:22:11,474 --> 00:22:14,474
Speaker 2: Laughing like the American girl in her hair because.

538
00:22:14,194 --> 00:22:17,554
Speaker 1: She's dressed ridiculously, and no one stops to kind of explain,

539
00:22:17,714 --> 00:22:19,593
Speaker 1: like Emily does go oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't know,

540
00:22:19,914 --> 00:22:21,714
Speaker 1: and then everyone kind of just laughs at her.

541
00:22:21,954 --> 00:22:23,634
Speaker 2: But then they also go to him like why didn't

542
00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:26,034
Speaker 2: she tell her? And then he kind of blamed it

543
00:22:26,114 --> 00:22:26,674
Speaker 2: back on her.

544
00:22:27,114 --> 00:22:29,154
Speaker 1: He tried to tell her he was try to.

545
00:22:29,114 --> 00:22:30,434
Speaker 2: Get Emily out of these heels.

546
00:22:30,434 --> 00:22:32,554
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, I'm sure if you said to her, hey,

547
00:22:32,594 --> 00:22:36,234
Speaker 1: we're going tramping through the forest for hours, truffle hunting

548
00:22:36,234 --> 00:22:38,674
Speaker 1: with dogs, and if you've been truffle hunting, it can

549
00:22:38,714 --> 00:22:42,074
Speaker 1: be quite an extensive thing. Yeah, I've done it once.

550
00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:44,394
Speaker 1: I'm me talking like I don't you just don't. Yeah,

551
00:22:44,514 --> 00:22:47,474
Speaker 1: that's crazy in Italy. You' like you're going through terrain,

552
00:22:47,594 --> 00:22:49,714
Speaker 1: you're digging on the ground, You're like walking through the

553
00:22:49,754 --> 00:22:53,114
Speaker 1: woods like that's not here, it's not heel weather. And

554
00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:56,234
Speaker 1: then she looks like an absolute idiot stomping through the

555
00:22:56,554 --> 00:22:57,714
Speaker 1: forest in her heels.

556
00:22:57,754 --> 00:22:59,474
Speaker 2: And he did that to her, and then he made

557
00:22:59,514 --> 00:23:01,273
Speaker 2: fun of her for looking out a truffle that's not

558
00:23:01,274 --> 00:23:01,634
Speaker 2: really a.

559
00:23:01,554 --> 00:23:04,434
Speaker 1: Truffle stink corn, and then he calls a stink corn

560
00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:07,034
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. Like she didn't ask

561
00:23:07,034 --> 00:23:09,794
Speaker 1: for any of this. And then I left him right there.

562
00:23:09,834 --> 00:23:10,674
Speaker 1: She's left men for.

563
00:23:10,714 --> 00:23:15,074
Speaker 2: Less, honestly, Honestly, anyone would. And then they go to

564
00:23:15,354 --> 00:23:18,594
Speaker 2: his mother's house and they do lunch and like still

565
00:23:18,634 --> 00:23:22,234
Speaker 2: they none of them like her. Exactly the worst experience

566
00:23:22,394 --> 00:23:23,914
Speaker 2: I've ever had watching this.

567
00:23:24,234 --> 00:23:25,954
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like hands over my face,

568
00:23:25,954 --> 00:23:27,553
Speaker 1: like I'm watching a horror movie because that's what it

569
00:23:27,554 --> 00:23:29,834
Speaker 1: felt like. And his sister's glaring and her and go

570
00:23:29,874 --> 00:23:31,273
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my, your shoes are roomined and

571
00:23:31,274 --> 00:23:33,273
Speaker 1: she's like that's fine, Like she's again they're shaming her

572
00:23:33,274 --> 00:23:36,034
Speaker 1: because her shoes are rubin because her bitch boyfriend didn't

573
00:23:36,074 --> 00:23:36,674
Speaker 1: tell her.

574
00:23:36,514 --> 00:23:40,434
Speaker 2: And then talking in Italian about her while she's yeah,

575
00:23:40,474 --> 00:23:41,754
Speaker 2: like oh my god.

576
00:23:41,674 --> 00:23:45,554
Speaker 1: That family, yeah, they should stay install it done. So

577
00:23:45,714 --> 00:23:47,634
Speaker 1: that's why I stops liking him. Obviously, he had a

578
00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:50,554
Speaker 1: lot of different temper tensions over the season, which I also.

579
00:23:50,474 --> 00:23:51,194
Speaker 2: He's a hot head.

580
00:23:51,474 --> 00:23:54,994
Speaker 1: He is not in a sexy way. He's a little

581
00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:56,874
Speaker 1: boy way, so like you know, how like fair.

582
00:23:56,914 --> 00:23:58,514
Speaker 2: It reminded me how much I don't like him.

583
00:23:59,354 --> 00:24:00,994
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he is hot, and they do have some

584
00:24:01,114 --> 00:24:03,994
Speaker 1: romantic moments, so not to ruin the whole like brothers

585
00:24:04,034 --> 00:24:07,434
Speaker 1: with sister's fantasy thing for you, I got so fancying

586
00:24:08,074 --> 00:24:09,034
Speaker 1: that the guy is nice.

587
00:24:09,314 --> 00:24:12,594
Speaker 2: I just think that men who have sisters are usually

588
00:24:12,674 --> 00:24:13,754
Speaker 2: a safe green flag.

589
00:24:14,074 --> 00:24:16,554
Speaker 1: Well I mean not always. I'm talking about my brother,

590
00:24:16,674 --> 00:24:18,874
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, if you're the only boy in

591
00:24:18,914 --> 00:24:21,273
Speaker 1: a family, full of women. Then you can be like

592
00:24:21,514 --> 00:24:24,114
Speaker 1: the little prince. You're the man like you either people

593
00:24:24,154 --> 00:24:26,674
Speaker 1: give in to you because you're like the little brother,

594
00:24:26,714 --> 00:24:28,434
Speaker 1: which I think he kind of is in the situation

595
00:24:28,474 --> 00:24:31,434
Speaker 1: in this family, or there's this whole thing of like

596
00:24:31,594 --> 00:24:33,434
Speaker 1: you're the man of the house like the parents. Just

597
00:24:33,554 --> 00:24:35,634
Speaker 1: it's just a thing like, yeah, the only boy can

598
00:24:35,634 --> 00:24:37,914
Speaker 1: get away with murder and be very pampered. And I

599
00:24:37,954 --> 00:24:40,194
Speaker 1: think he acts like that every time he has a tantrum,

600
00:24:40,314 --> 00:24:42,434
Speaker 1: especially the only son of a rich family.

601
00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:45,033
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's like crying and then he's like, but

602
00:24:45,034 --> 00:24:46,273
Speaker 2: there's no money to save me.

603
00:24:46,474 --> 00:24:50,474
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my friends. Sorry, I'm so sorry. I feel

604
00:24:50,474 --> 00:24:51,714
Speaker 1: like you loved him and then I've ruined it.

605
00:24:51,834 --> 00:24:54,154
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, this is a hard truth.

606
00:24:54,314 --> 00:24:56,273
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not. We had to face this. He's a

607
00:24:56,274 --> 00:24:58,074
Speaker 1: bit boyfriend, and so it.

608
00:24:58,194 --> 00:24:59,634
Speaker 2: Was so funny. I was just like, I love that man,

609
00:24:59,674 --> 00:25:01,834
Speaker 2: and you were like, I hate the man. I was like, yes, yeah, sure,

610
00:25:01,954 --> 00:25:02,674
Speaker 2: I also hate that.

611
00:25:02,714 --> 00:25:02,833
Speaker 3: Well.

612
00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:05,074
Speaker 1: I feel like I presented a good case. You did. No,

613
00:25:05,154 --> 00:25:07,474
Speaker 1: you did, like he did do this stuff after shoes,

614
00:25:07,514 --> 00:25:11,674
Speaker 1: the shoes would have been enough, I was so. And

615
00:25:11,754 --> 00:25:14,834
Speaker 1: so then we have Mindy come to Rome as well.

616
00:25:15,154 --> 00:25:16,994
Speaker 2: Really these people getting all their money from I know

617
00:25:17,074 --> 00:25:18,553
Speaker 2: we talk about this, but come on.

618
00:25:18,954 --> 00:25:22,314
Speaker 1: Well, I guess Agent's Grotto's funding Emily's trip there. And mindy,

619
00:25:22,434 --> 00:25:23,954
Speaker 1: well she just did Chinese pop stuff.

620
00:25:24,034 --> 00:25:25,114
Speaker 2: That's true.

621
00:25:25,514 --> 00:25:27,714
Speaker 1: Again, she says, I'm famous in Rome and famous in China,

622
00:25:27,754 --> 00:25:29,274
Speaker 1: not in France. This is probably good for her.

623
00:25:29,434 --> 00:25:32,594
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's working really, really hard, and she needs to

624
00:25:32,594 --> 00:25:35,634
Speaker 2: work hard because what's that silly stepdaughter who's working back

625
00:25:35,674 --> 00:25:38,914
Speaker 2: in Paris, Genevieve. Yeah, she does not want anyone to

626
00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:39,594
Speaker 2: work at all.

627
00:25:40,714 --> 00:25:43,674
Speaker 1: I love Genevieve becoming this like low key destroying everyone's life,

628
00:25:43,754 --> 00:25:45,234
Speaker 1: becoming the villain of this season.

629
00:25:45,514 --> 00:25:47,234
Speaker 2: But she was made up to be a much bigger

630
00:25:47,274 --> 00:25:50,074
Speaker 2: villain in season four, Like, yeah, they were building her

631
00:25:50,154 --> 00:25:53,514
Speaker 2: up as someone who was going to like jeopardize her

632
00:25:53,594 --> 00:25:56,954
Speaker 2: and Gabriel's relationship, and then they just stuck her at

633
00:25:56,954 --> 00:25:58,634
Speaker 2: the front desk and now she's just annoying.

634
00:25:58,714 --> 00:26:00,274
Speaker 1: Now she's trying to take Emily down from the.

635
00:26:00,234 --> 00:26:03,354
Speaker 4: Inside, but everyone knows she's really bad at her job,

636
00:26:03,594 --> 00:26:06,114
Speaker 4: so bad again, it's just that the whole Nipper baby

637
00:26:06,114 --> 00:26:08,793
Speaker 4: conversation was so funny and then they're just like we

638
00:26:08,834 --> 00:26:10,994
Speaker 4: should fire her, and Emily just walks across the event

639
00:26:11,034 --> 00:26:11,434
Speaker 4: to fire her.

640
00:26:11,474 --> 00:26:12,994
Speaker 1: I'm my girl. I think they meant tomorrow.

641
00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:14,594
Speaker 2: Jesus.

642
00:26:15,314 --> 00:26:17,234
Speaker 1: She need to be fair. Maybe Sylvie didn't, and she's

643
00:26:17,274 --> 00:26:20,634
Speaker 1: like fire nor now. I like Genevieve Rip. She's still alive,

644
00:26:20,634 --> 00:26:21,834
Speaker 1: but she's off the show.

645
00:26:21,874 --> 00:26:24,114
Speaker 2: I reckon she's gonna come back with vengeance like Scrappy

646
00:26:24,114 --> 00:26:25,914
Speaker 2: Doo and Scooby doing mystery, either.

647
00:26:27,234 --> 00:26:31,914
Speaker 1: Wearing her boje or bitch hat. We haven't seen the

648
00:26:31,994 --> 00:26:34,874
Speaker 1: last of her, hopefully we have. Yeah, so Mindy rocks

649
00:26:34,954 --> 00:26:37,194
Speaker 1: up her rome, which is where our big central storyline

650
00:26:37,234 --> 00:26:40,394
Speaker 1: really kicks off, because she's coming to sing at the

651
00:26:40,434 --> 00:26:43,434
Speaker 1: Bavatza party where they want her to sing in the

652
00:26:43,754 --> 00:26:47,474
Speaker 1: espresso espresso Martini glass and that whole thing where they're like, no,

653
00:26:47,554 --> 00:26:49,474
Speaker 1: it can't be an espresso Martini, Like yes, and she's like,

654
00:26:49,474 --> 00:26:52,474
Speaker 1: don't you see the problem with that? And then she

655
00:26:52,514 --> 00:26:55,554
Speaker 1: does the Sabrina Carpenter espresso cover, which I loved.

656
00:26:55,634 --> 00:26:59,394
Speaker 2: Also, great speakers in that situation move did you remove

657
00:26:59,434 --> 00:27:00,954
Speaker 2: a sound from a moving boat?

658
00:27:01,154 --> 00:27:07,793
Speaker 1: Yeah? To a building boats so far away. They start

659
00:27:07,914 --> 00:27:10,154
Speaker 1: and they're all like, there're she and she just come

660
00:27:10,194 --> 00:27:12,794
Speaker 1: in and everyone starts seeing along straight away. I'm like,

661
00:27:12,834 --> 00:27:14,034
Speaker 1: the boat is still so fun.

662
00:27:14,234 --> 00:27:16,314
Speaker 2: The funny thing is you can't hear the sounds of

663
00:27:16,354 --> 00:27:20,394
Speaker 2: the boat in the mihone, Like no sound changes at all.

664
00:27:20,434 --> 00:27:21,834
Speaker 2: It's just pristine the whole way through.

665
00:27:21,914 --> 00:27:24,714
Speaker 1: And I saw some pushback on socials and from people

666
00:27:24,914 --> 00:27:27,033
Speaker 1: saying like she just flew in and how did she

667
00:27:27,074 --> 00:27:28,553
Speaker 1: have time to rehearse those dances and.

668
00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:29,954
Speaker 2: Where did she get that outfit from?

669
00:27:30,034 --> 00:27:32,754
Speaker 1: That's not for us to know. Yeah, that's not our business.

670
00:27:32,794 --> 00:27:34,914
Speaker 1: Do I want to spend twenty minutes watching a two

671
00:27:34,954 --> 00:27:37,474
Speaker 1: hour session of her choreograph in that dance those boys? No,

672
00:27:37,994 --> 00:27:39,954
Speaker 1: I just want the magic of mindy ten just getting

673
00:27:39,994 --> 00:27:40,594
Speaker 1: off the boat.

674
00:27:40,834 --> 00:27:42,914
Speaker 2: And she gets her man mar tiny glass quite easily.

675
00:27:43,034 --> 00:27:45,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she's a pro. Yeah, she's been already been

676
00:27:45,714 --> 00:27:47,954
Speaker 1: at the crazy Horse for like quite a while now.

677
00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:49,354
Speaker 2: So I do you think she gets out of it?

678
00:27:50,314 --> 00:27:51,794
Speaker 2: I think? And when do you think.

679
00:27:51,594 --> 00:27:54,234
Speaker 1: She gets out? We should have called thetes herigin like

680
00:27:54,314 --> 00:27:57,194
Speaker 1: in a glass dancing lady to find that out, because

681
00:27:57,194 --> 00:27:58,834
Speaker 1: I think they have to pull her. Yeah, they pulled

682
00:27:58,874 --> 00:28:00,234
Speaker 1: devontees out like upward.

683
00:28:00,394 --> 00:28:02,994
Speaker 2: Surely she has to. Like the song ends, and then

684
00:28:03,034 --> 00:28:05,954
Speaker 2: they're like everyone back on the terrace to can of pay.

685
00:28:06,074 --> 00:28:07,834
Speaker 2: So then the doors closed and she can like take

686
00:28:07,834 --> 00:28:10,034
Speaker 2: a private moment to get out, because you can't get

687
00:28:10,034 --> 00:28:12,714
Speaker 2: out of that sexily. I don't know why wein the

688
00:28:12,754 --> 00:28:13,394
Speaker 2: illusion either.

689
00:28:13,474 --> 00:28:15,794
Speaker 1: No one asked that question exactly inter views they did.

690
00:28:15,914 --> 00:28:18,114
Speaker 1: I was thinking that the season six, if this time

691
00:28:18,154 --> 00:28:20,234
Speaker 1: I'll say yes to interming them because I decline this time,

692
00:28:20,314 --> 00:28:21,914
Speaker 1: I might come't talk to my favorite actresses.

693
00:28:22,154 --> 00:28:24,194
Speaker 2: Next I'll them, do you have to do it for

694
00:28:24,314 --> 00:28:26,394
Speaker 2: like at least when they do the very last season.

695
00:28:26,874 --> 00:28:29,434
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do the last season. I'll be like, hello, guys,

696
00:28:29,434 --> 00:28:31,954
Speaker 1: it's your biggest fan. No, but seriously, I don't even

697
00:28:31,954 --> 00:28:35,914
Speaker 1: never seen it before. Okay, it's time to talk about this.

698
00:28:35,914 --> 00:28:37,754
Speaker 1: We can't avoid it any longer. Even though I hated this,

699
00:28:38,474 --> 00:28:40,954
Speaker 1: the Mindy and Alphi storyline.

700
00:28:40,994 --> 00:28:41,754
Speaker 2: Why is he there?

701
00:28:42,354 --> 00:28:44,074
Speaker 1: He well, that's why they brought him back as a

702
00:28:44,114 --> 00:28:48,274
Speaker 1: leading man to have this storyline. That's all you say,

703
00:28:49,154 --> 00:28:49,554
Speaker 1: Just so.

704
00:28:49,634 --> 00:28:52,074
Speaker 2: Just the moment. The job market's really hard right now,

705
00:28:52,114 --> 00:28:54,274
Speaker 2: and then you see these flusies just go about and

706
00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:57,314
Speaker 2: get whatever job they want, easily making millions of dollars.

707
00:28:57,394 --> 00:28:58,394
Speaker 1: Are you with the actors.

708
00:28:58,754 --> 00:29:01,354
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about the actual characters. Oh, okay, because

709
00:29:01,394 --> 00:29:02,954
Speaker 2: now he's working for the perfume Man.

710
00:29:03,274 --> 00:29:05,114
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a big storyline from the season

711
00:29:05,154 --> 00:29:07,674
Speaker 1: before because he was being transferred back to London and

712
00:29:07,714 --> 00:29:09,554
Speaker 1: then when he met Antoine he.

713
00:29:09,594 --> 00:29:10,074
Speaker 2: Got a job.

714
00:29:10,234 --> 00:29:12,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was chief who's his chief of finance. And

715
00:29:12,674 --> 00:29:15,074
Speaker 1: that's good because it keeps him in the storylined in

716
00:29:15,074 --> 00:29:17,954
Speaker 1: a believable way because he is not only Sylvie's like

717
00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:19,994
Speaker 1: ex lover, but also one of their biggest clients and

718
00:29:20,034 --> 00:29:22,834
Speaker 1: he has so many businesses that he's always needed marketing for.

719
00:29:23,034 --> 00:29:26,474
Speaker 1: He's always coming in. So obviously we kind of see

720
00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:29,514
Speaker 1: the start of their little relationship, yes, which is them

721
00:29:29,514 --> 00:29:31,394
Speaker 1: in Paris, kind of being like the two people left

722
00:29:31,434 --> 00:29:34,594
Speaker 1: standing left to have dinner together and drinks, and then

723
00:29:34,754 --> 00:29:36,794
Speaker 1: having that moment in Rome where they hook up for

724
00:29:36,794 --> 00:29:39,354
Speaker 1: the first time that I was kind of okay with,

725
00:29:39,554 --> 00:29:41,474
Speaker 1: but I didn't like how it progressed.

726
00:29:42,234 --> 00:29:44,274
Speaker 2: Wait, so you're okay with the initial hookup.

727
00:29:44,674 --> 00:29:47,114
Speaker 1: I understand them having a flirty dinner and a thirty kiss,

728
00:29:47,154 --> 00:29:48,314
Speaker 1: and I thought that's all it was going to be.

729
00:29:48,834 --> 00:29:52,594
Speaker 1: I also just feel like the build up wasn't there. Yeah,

730
00:29:52,634 --> 00:29:54,754
Speaker 1: I just feel like these characters have they've interacted a

731
00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:55,914
Speaker 1: little bit, but not really.

732
00:29:56,034 --> 00:29:57,914
Speaker 2: It felt very much like, oh, we're the only single

733
00:29:57,954 --> 00:29:59,074
Speaker 2: one tire let's hook up.

734
00:29:59,194 --> 00:30:01,874
Speaker 1: Yeah. It just also, just from a storytelling point of view,

735
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,474
Speaker 1: wasn't handled in a way that made me care about

736
00:30:04,474 --> 00:30:06,754
Speaker 1: them or what had the payoff because I was never

737
00:30:06,874 --> 00:30:09,194
Speaker 1: root for them as a couple. I actually don't think

738
00:30:09,234 --> 00:30:12,034
Speaker 1: they have great on screen chemistry at all. The thing is,

739
00:30:12,034 --> 00:30:15,754
Speaker 1: they're both very charismatic actors. They have chemistry with everyone else,

740
00:30:15,794 --> 00:30:18,394
Speaker 1: so they're so good that it kind of like it's

741
00:30:18,434 --> 00:30:21,474
Speaker 1: not overly noticeable. But if you're like someone like me

742
00:30:21,514 --> 00:30:23,554
Speaker 1: who's like always in the depths of like characters falling

743
00:30:23,554 --> 00:30:25,514
Speaker 1: in love and really needs to believe it, it didn't work.

744
00:30:25,834 --> 00:30:27,554
Speaker 1: I just feel like it felt like they could just

745
00:30:27,674 --> 00:30:29,674
Speaker 1: rush that storyline through to have it. There was no

746
00:30:29,754 --> 00:30:31,954
Speaker 1: build up, so there was no kind of anticipation of

747
00:30:31,994 --> 00:30:34,634
Speaker 1: them meeting together, And it was such a big contrast

748
00:30:34,754 --> 00:30:38,154
Speaker 1: between the build up between Emily and Alfie, because that,

749
00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:40,434
Speaker 1: to me, was the best romantic build up on the

750
00:30:40,554 --> 00:30:43,514
Speaker 1: show on Emily and Paris at all, because you had

751
00:30:43,514 --> 00:30:46,994
Speaker 1: them have this meeting in their French class. They didn't

752
00:30:47,074 --> 00:30:50,994
Speaker 1: like each other yea or classic enemy of subs and

753
00:30:51,034 --> 00:30:52,754
Speaker 1: done so well because you really felt like he didn't

754
00:30:52,834 --> 00:30:55,194
Speaker 1: like her, and you really felt like she was justified

755
00:30:55,274 --> 00:30:57,674
Speaker 1: not liking him. But then they were thrown together in

756
00:30:57,714 --> 00:31:00,114
Speaker 1: such a good way, and then there was such a

757
00:31:00,194 --> 00:31:04,354
Speaker 1: slow burn of them building up to hooking up that

758
00:31:04,434 --> 00:31:07,594
Speaker 1: first time. Their first hook up is so hot and everything.

759
00:31:07,674 --> 00:31:09,874
Speaker 1: I just felt like that felt like a really earned relationship.

760
00:31:09,954 --> 00:31:11,194
Speaker 1: And by the time they get together, you're just like,

761
00:31:11,194 --> 00:31:12,994
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've been waiting for this. It's so good,

762
00:31:12,994 --> 00:31:14,154
Speaker 1: and I didn't know if it was going to happen.

763
00:31:14,194 --> 00:31:16,034
Speaker 1: It was just like whereas these two it was just like, oh,

764
00:31:16,194 --> 00:31:17,034
Speaker 1: you guys kids now.

765
00:31:17,674 --> 00:31:20,434
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then it was to the point where like

766
00:31:20,554 --> 00:31:23,434
Speaker 2: they were getting closer and closer and making eyes at

767
00:31:23,474 --> 00:31:25,914
Speaker 2: each other from across rooms and talking about each other

768
00:31:25,994 --> 00:31:29,194
Speaker 2: and like perking up when someone mentioned one of their names.

769
00:31:29,754 --> 00:31:31,994
Speaker 2: That like it was almost like shoved in our faces

770
00:31:32,074 --> 00:31:34,954
Speaker 2: rather than us making that decision for ourselves, which is

771
00:31:34,994 --> 00:31:37,154
Speaker 2: what those slow burns are meant to do.

772
00:31:37,314 --> 00:31:40,274
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. The biggest stake through the whole thing

773
00:31:40,354 --> 00:31:42,714
Speaker 1: was never their relationship, Like for me at least, as

774
00:31:42,714 --> 00:31:44,554
Speaker 1: if you were like was never like, oh, they really

775
00:31:44,554 --> 00:31:46,114
Speaker 1: in love all this. It was always just like, what's

776
00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:48,434
Speaker 1: gonna happen when Emily's gonna find out? So it felt

777
00:31:48,434 --> 00:31:51,394
Speaker 1: more like a plot device than a romance. And also

778
00:31:51,474 --> 00:31:53,714
Speaker 1: I know that all the way through doing all the press,

779
00:31:54,154 --> 00:31:57,234
Speaker 1: Ashley Park and Lily Collins when they talked about it,

780
00:31:57,234 --> 00:31:59,594
Speaker 1: we always like Mindy didn't do a bad thing, but

781
00:31:59,674 --> 00:32:00,994
Speaker 1: she just handled it badly.

782
00:32:01,234 --> 00:32:02,434
Speaker 2: Can I talk about the press for once?

783
00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:03,114
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

784
00:32:03,354 --> 00:32:05,434
Speaker 2: I feel like they were asked that question a lot,

785
00:32:05,554 --> 00:32:08,234
Speaker 2: because you can only really are questions about, like I

786
00:32:08,234 --> 00:32:10,354
Speaker 2: guess the trailer of what we think, And it was

787
00:32:10,354 --> 00:32:13,514
Speaker 2: pretty obvious in the trailer that we knew that Mindy

788
00:32:13,554 --> 00:32:16,074
Speaker 2: and Alfie would get together because I have that very

789
00:32:16,114 --> 00:32:19,034
Speaker 2: like intimate moment that you see. So I've seen like

790
00:32:19,074 --> 00:32:21,834
Speaker 2: a lot of interviews where people do have been asking

791
00:32:21,874 --> 00:32:26,514
Speaker 2: them what do you think about friends who get together

792
00:32:26,594 --> 00:32:29,394
Speaker 2: with other friends' ex partners? And they would took that

793
00:32:29,474 --> 00:32:32,274
Speaker 2: question so seriously. I think they got really scared that

794
00:32:32,354 --> 00:32:35,114
Speaker 2: it was going to be like a massive deal breaker

795
00:32:35,234 --> 00:32:37,474
Speaker 2: for viewers. Because if I was an actor and I

796
00:32:37,594 --> 00:32:40,274
Speaker 2: got that question, I would be really lighthearted.

797
00:32:39,674 --> 00:32:43,994
Speaker 1: About because it's like and I'd be like, nah, girls, girl,

798
00:32:44,074 --> 00:32:46,034
Speaker 1: you never do that exactly, and they were like, look,

799
00:32:46,074 --> 00:32:48,714
Speaker 1: here's what really happened, and here's everything. You've taken into

800
00:32:48,714 --> 00:32:50,514
Speaker 1: account every interview.

801
00:32:50,554 --> 00:32:53,114
Speaker 2: So it makes me think that even they weren't impressed

802
00:32:53,114 --> 00:32:54,674
Speaker 2: with that storyline, yeah.

803
00:32:54,634 --> 00:32:57,354
Speaker 1: Or they were very worried because like Mindy and Emily's

804
00:32:57,514 --> 00:33:00,194
Speaker 1: relationship has been the central relationship of the show. It's

805
00:33:00,234 --> 00:33:02,874
Speaker 1: been the one big constant and that's why I also,

806
00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:04,834
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys have built this friendship up in

807
00:33:04,874 --> 00:33:07,754
Speaker 1: such a beautiful way. You've made it really believable of

808
00:33:07,794 --> 00:33:10,914
Speaker 1: these two girls finding each other in Paris and becoming

809
00:33:10,914 --> 00:33:13,874
Speaker 1: each other's family because they don't have their own families around.

810
00:33:14,234 --> 00:33:17,274
Speaker 1: They're kind of positioned as being like closer than close friends.

811
00:33:17,314 --> 00:33:18,994
Speaker 1: Like they live together and they sleep in the same

812
00:33:19,034 --> 00:33:22,194
Speaker 1: bed every night, which I have questions about, not a

813
00:33:22,194 --> 00:33:23,354
Speaker 1: weird way. I'm just like, but I'm just like you

814
00:33:23,394 --> 00:33:25,394
Speaker 1: guys have been in that time little one and another

815
00:33:25,434 --> 00:33:28,074
Speaker 1: bed something pull out. They don't even have a couch,

816
00:33:28,434 --> 00:33:30,914
Speaker 1: a little two seat seed thing. It's just such a

817
00:33:30,954 --> 00:33:34,074
Speaker 1: small it's a very believable tiny apartment for one person

818
00:33:34,074 --> 00:33:37,594
Speaker 1: in Paris, because Paris apartments are tiny. But you know

819
00:33:37,634 --> 00:33:39,914
Speaker 1: they're squeezed in there together anyway, so they're very close.

820
00:33:40,594 --> 00:33:44,634
Speaker 1: And I just hated how it was handled because obviously

821
00:33:44,634 --> 00:33:46,554
Speaker 1: you're meant to be like, oh, Mindy's in the wrong

822
00:33:46,594 --> 00:33:48,954
Speaker 1: for not telling Emily, but the thing is like not

823
00:33:48,994 --> 00:33:52,074
Speaker 1: telling her continuing to hook up, and then also when

824
00:33:52,114 --> 00:33:54,594
Speaker 1: Mindy's like we need to tell Emily, like yes, this

825
00:33:54,674 --> 00:33:56,554
Speaker 1: is this is like the correct thing, like you're doing

826
00:33:56,554 --> 00:33:59,114
Speaker 1: more than hooking and not a moral judgment. I hate

827
00:33:59,194 --> 00:34:00,914
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, this character is bad or good.

828
00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:02,554
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're normal people. They're not meant to be

829
00:34:02,594 --> 00:34:04,194
Speaker 1: good all the time. But it just felt like in

830
00:34:04,234 --> 00:34:07,154
Speaker 1: line with Mindy's character where she was like, yeah, we

831
00:34:07,274 --> 00:34:08,953
Speaker 1: need to tell Emily and he's like, yeah, let's take

832
00:34:08,953 --> 00:34:11,394
Speaker 1: her to dinner. And I was like that's the worst way.

833
00:34:11,953 --> 00:34:13,474
Speaker 1: What do you mean take her to dinner?

834
00:34:13,554 --> 00:34:15,674
Speaker 2: Like when are you gonna tell her? Well, in between

835
00:34:15,714 --> 00:34:17,074
Speaker 2: the main and dessert.

836
00:34:17,074 --> 00:34:19,873
Speaker 1: They sat down at the dinner, so three of them.

837
00:34:19,874 --> 00:34:23,154
Speaker 1: Embarrassing for them, yeah, embarrassing for all involved. Yeah, And

838
00:34:23,194 --> 00:34:25,354
Speaker 1: I was just like if that was me, I would

839
00:34:25,354 --> 00:34:26,953
Speaker 1: And what Mindy should have done is like, no, I'll

840
00:34:26,994 --> 00:34:29,074
Speaker 1: tell her because she's my best friend. In brumate, and

841
00:34:29,114 --> 00:34:31,314
Speaker 1: I will in our home tonight. I will sit down

842
00:34:31,314 --> 00:34:33,314
Speaker 1: and I will tell her calmly so that she's at home.

843
00:34:33,354 --> 00:34:36,154
Speaker 1: If she's upset, and I will tell her. And then

844
00:34:36,194 --> 00:34:37,873
Speaker 1: if you if we want you to come over, we

845
00:34:37,914 --> 00:34:38,474
Speaker 1: will call you.

846
00:34:38,994 --> 00:34:40,794
Speaker 2: Don't make a dress up for a dinner, dinner, and

847
00:34:40,794 --> 00:34:43,433
Speaker 2: then ask her to pay her portion and.

848
00:34:43,314 --> 00:34:44,993
Speaker 1: Then be like, oh, so could you grab your half?

849
00:34:45,114 --> 00:34:45,954
Speaker 2: So grab your half?

850
00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:48,234
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also have like the two of them sitting there,

851
00:34:48,314 --> 00:34:49,554
Speaker 1: you'd feel so ganged up on.

852
00:34:49,754 --> 00:34:51,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, no bad, bad pay And it also in.

853
00:34:51,714 --> 00:34:54,234
Speaker 1: A public place, it's like they're not giving her permission

854
00:34:54,274 --> 00:34:56,994
Speaker 1: to act because she would have to like, yeah, sneaky,

855
00:34:57,314 --> 00:34:59,674
Speaker 1: keep it together. Yeah, it felt very weird for those

856
00:34:59,754 --> 00:35:01,754
Speaker 1: characters and manipultive. And also if you're out there and

857
00:35:01,794 --> 00:35:03,594
Speaker 1: you're about to tell your best friend that you're sleeping

858
00:35:03,594 --> 00:35:05,394
Speaker 1: with her ex, don't take it to a restaurant.

859
00:35:05,594 --> 00:35:08,914
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's just a little per here, safe for everyone

860
00:35:08,954 --> 00:35:09,314
Speaker 2: out there.

861
00:35:09,474 --> 00:35:12,034
Speaker 1: I understand, like it was like very dramatic having Emily

862
00:35:12,074 --> 00:35:15,114
Speaker 1: find out at the work event and Mindy having like

863
00:35:15,194 --> 00:35:18,074
Speaker 1: moving out of their apartment, But I didn't love the apology.

864
00:35:18,554 --> 00:35:23,714
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the apology was very confusing to me. Yeah,

865
00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:29,074
Speaker 2: because I actually don't really remember Mindy apologizing to Emily.

866
00:35:29,154 --> 00:35:31,913
Speaker 2: I just remember her going how many times do I

867
00:35:31,954 --> 00:35:34,194
Speaker 2: need to apologize to you? And I'm like, did you

868
00:35:34,234 --> 00:35:37,394
Speaker 2: apologize once? Like I don't actually remember that initial apology.

869
00:35:37,514 --> 00:35:39,234
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like a grand moment for me.

870
00:35:39,714 --> 00:35:42,154
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I think the apology might have happened off

871
00:35:42,154 --> 00:35:44,674
Speaker 1: screen because we see that moment where Emily finds out

872
00:35:45,074 --> 00:35:47,473
Speaker 1: and then we see her like walk away from Mindy

873
00:35:47,514 --> 00:35:49,314
Speaker 1: in the horrified look on Mindia shace, and that it

874
00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:51,714
Speaker 1: cuts them in their apartment like looks like the next

875
00:35:51,794 --> 00:35:53,433
Speaker 1: day or even a few days later, I think, where

876
00:35:53,434 --> 00:35:55,354
Speaker 1: you see the kind of walking on eggshells around each other,

877
00:35:55,394 --> 00:35:58,434
Speaker 1: but Emily's quite upset and then she moves out. I

878
00:35:58,434 --> 00:36:01,674
Speaker 1: didn't love the way the apology was handled, just because

879
00:36:01,914 --> 00:36:05,154
Speaker 1: I thought, like, you have obviously Mindy apologizing, but then

880
00:36:05,194 --> 00:36:07,913
Speaker 1: you have Emily go off and have this step storyline

881
00:36:07,954 --> 00:36:09,514
Speaker 1: at the American Embassy, which we'll get to in a

882
00:36:09,514 --> 00:36:11,674
Speaker 1: second because that was my favorite episode the whole series.

883
00:36:12,194 --> 00:36:14,873
Speaker 1: But in between that, then you have Emily realize that

884
00:36:14,914 --> 00:36:18,514
Speaker 1: Mindy is her most important relationship, which they've always said,

885
00:36:18,874 --> 00:36:22,034
Speaker 1: and then cut to Emily running to Julian's apartment and

886
00:36:22,114 --> 00:36:24,314
Speaker 1: throwing the croissants against the window, in a mirror of

887
00:36:24,314 --> 00:36:26,473
Speaker 1: how Mindy had chased her down the street the other day.

888
00:36:26,794 --> 00:36:28,794
Speaker 1: But then you cut to inside the apartment and Mindy

889
00:36:28,834 --> 00:36:31,873
Speaker 1: is sitting there talking about her relationship with Nikolay and

890
00:36:31,914 --> 00:36:34,554
Speaker 1: not even giving a second thought to Emily.

891
00:36:34,634 --> 00:36:36,714
Speaker 2: Like it felt really rushed and really messy, And I

892
00:36:36,794 --> 00:36:40,714
Speaker 2: think they wanted to show that Emily was the person

893
00:36:40,794 --> 00:36:43,674
Speaker 2: in the right in that situation consistently. Yeah, And I

894
00:36:43,674 --> 00:36:45,794
Speaker 2: think they went a bit overboard on that, because I

895
00:36:45,874 --> 00:36:48,834
Speaker 2: do think there is a place to have a storyline

896
00:36:48,874 --> 00:36:51,473
Speaker 2: where your best friend hooks up with your ex and

897
00:36:51,514 --> 00:36:53,994
Speaker 2: like falls in love with them, and that can be

898
00:36:54,074 --> 00:36:57,394
Speaker 2: done in a way where the best friend does seem

899
00:36:57,514 --> 00:37:00,554
Speaker 2: so torn with this, Yeah, and Mindy just didn't seem

900
00:37:00,594 --> 00:37:01,274
Speaker 2: torn at all.

901
00:37:01,554 --> 00:37:03,674
Speaker 1: Mindy also kept sort of lying to her, which is

902
00:37:03,754 --> 00:37:05,674
Speaker 1: very out of character for her, again, and that was

903
00:37:05,714 --> 00:37:06,634
Speaker 1: also brushed over.

904
00:37:07,354 --> 00:37:11,034
Speaker 2: She only told Emily that we only hooked up in Rome.

905
00:37:11,234 --> 00:37:13,873
Speaker 2: And then Emily finds out that like it's been going on,

906
00:37:14,194 --> 00:37:16,634
Speaker 2: and then she like messages Alfie saying you've got something.

907
00:37:16,714 --> 00:37:18,913
Speaker 1: She left her underwear and he shared beds.

908
00:37:18,674 --> 00:37:20,634
Speaker 2: And he was like, hah, sorry, I know.

909
00:37:20,674 --> 00:37:23,154
Speaker 1: I'm just like, if he even taking this seriously weird,

910
00:37:23,154 --> 00:37:25,194
Speaker 1: I just think again again, we're not getting into the

911
00:37:25,194 --> 00:37:27,834
Speaker 1: morals of characters, because people on TV can be bad people.

912
00:37:28,154 --> 00:37:30,034
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is very out of character for

913
00:37:30,154 --> 00:37:32,953
Speaker 1: Mindy Chen, who we've now known for five seasons. And

914
00:37:33,034 --> 00:37:35,074
Speaker 1: if you're going to take someone out of character, explain

915
00:37:35,114 --> 00:37:37,594
Speaker 1: why they got that way. Like, people don't suddenly change

916
00:37:37,714 --> 00:37:38,434
Speaker 1: how they behave.

917
00:37:38,554 --> 00:37:41,034
Speaker 2: And even Alfie, like he's always said after they broke

918
00:37:41,114 --> 00:37:43,594
Speaker 2: up that he has so much care for Emily and

919
00:37:43,634 --> 00:37:46,754
Speaker 2: he like loves working with her and like just loves

920
00:37:46,754 --> 00:37:49,274
Speaker 2: her as a person, and then the whole haha sorry

921
00:37:49,274 --> 00:37:50,234
Speaker 2: on a text message.

922
00:37:50,514 --> 00:37:52,794
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even like when they keep the light going,

923
00:37:52,874 --> 00:37:55,354
Speaker 1: like when they're at the Crazy Horse watching MINDI Reform

924
00:37:55,834 --> 00:37:57,873
Speaker 1: and she was like to them, like, should we all

925
00:37:57,874 --> 00:37:59,674
Speaker 1: get dinner? And Alfie's like, I've got to leave text

926
00:37:59,714 --> 00:38:01,754
Speaker 1: Mindy like I'm around the corner and she's like to

927
00:38:01,794 --> 00:38:03,834
Speaker 1: Mindy like, oh, can we go and talk ye, And

928
00:38:03,874 --> 00:38:05,074
Speaker 1: She's like no, I've got to stay here, And then

929
00:38:05,074 --> 00:38:07,393
Speaker 1: they go off and meet up secretly without her. All

930
00:38:07,434 --> 00:38:09,593
Speaker 1: these little stepping stones that just I don't think MINDI

931
00:38:09,634 --> 00:38:12,634
Speaker 1: would do. But also we know that Mindy chooses Emily

932
00:38:12,674 --> 00:38:14,754
Speaker 1: over anyone else because when it came down to that

933
00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:17,754
Speaker 1: thing with Nikolai and the businesses in a previous season,

934
00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:20,834
Speaker 1: and he was like, we have to do this basically

935
00:38:20,834 --> 00:38:22,674
Speaker 1: scrow of Emily. He was like, we have to do

936
00:38:22,714 --> 00:38:25,314
Speaker 1: this because it's my family. And Mindy like looked across

937
00:38:25,314 --> 00:38:26,914
Speaker 1: at him in the restaurant. She was like, well, Emily's

938
00:38:26,994 --> 00:38:28,834
Speaker 1: my family and I'm not doing that. Yeah, And I

939
00:38:28,874 --> 00:38:31,074
Speaker 1: was like, that's our girl. Where is she gone?

940
00:38:31,354 --> 00:38:31,634
Speaker 4: Yeah?

941
00:38:31,674 --> 00:38:33,434
Speaker 2: I feel really bad, That's what I mean. I feel

942
00:38:34,034 --> 00:38:37,474
Speaker 2: like compared for Ashley Parker. Yeah, between the storyline and

943
00:38:37,514 --> 00:38:40,314
Speaker 2: her outfits, I'm like, you're not season.

944
00:38:40,754 --> 00:38:42,554
Speaker 1: Obviously, we knew they would come back together, like they're

945
00:38:42,594 --> 00:38:44,393
Speaker 1: the kind of friends that would. But I kind of

946
00:38:44,394 --> 00:38:46,834
Speaker 1: wanted a bit more, And obviously people do shitty things,

947
00:38:46,954 --> 00:38:49,634
Speaker 1: but I wanted a bit more from Mindy in way

948
00:38:49,674 --> 00:38:52,154
Speaker 1: of apology. And I didn't love the fact that it

949
00:38:52,154 --> 00:38:54,194
Speaker 1: was like Emily chasing her down when she wasn't giving

950
00:38:54,194 --> 00:38:55,674
Speaker 1: her a second thought. She was too wrapped up with

951
00:38:55,754 --> 00:38:59,714
Speaker 1: Nickolai anyway, became friends again, So that's not I guess.

952
00:38:59,514 --> 00:39:01,314
Speaker 2: I hope we just forget that whole thing happened.

953
00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:02,714
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Alfie's.

954
00:39:02,354 --> 00:39:04,954
Speaker 2: Actually no, Alfie is going to be back in season

955
00:39:04,994 --> 00:39:06,834
Speaker 2: six because obviously she's still in love with him and.

956
00:39:07,194 --> 00:39:09,074
Speaker 1: It's just some other dude, yes, which we'll get to

957
00:39:09,154 --> 00:39:10,674
Speaker 1: as we talk about the final season. But I have

958
00:39:10,754 --> 00:39:13,834
Speaker 1: to talk quickly about the episode that this apology happened in,

959
00:39:13,834 --> 00:39:15,954
Speaker 1: because even though I hated that scene, this was my

960
00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:18,714
Speaker 1: favorite episode this season, and it was the episode where

961
00:39:18,714 --> 00:39:21,154
Speaker 1: Emily out in Paris by herself again.

962
00:39:21,274 --> 00:39:22,274
Speaker 2: She became American again.

963
00:39:22,354 --> 00:39:25,314
Speaker 1: A beautiful story for what we should all be aspiring

964
00:39:25,354 --> 00:39:29,034
Speaker 1: to be. Paris is the worst. Choose America, obvious, same thing, sarcastic.

965
00:39:29,154 --> 00:39:30,873
Speaker 1: I can't even say that with the story face. So

966
00:39:30,914 --> 00:39:32,794
Speaker 1: she sees the American Pub and it's very all of

967
00:39:32,834 --> 00:39:37,274
Speaker 1: a sudden, just she's so lonely. Gabrielle's left, Camille's left her,

968
00:39:37,314 --> 00:39:40,754
Speaker 1: two people in her life lying to her like she's

969
00:39:40,834 --> 00:39:43,714
Speaker 1: so lonely walking the streets. Failed at work, She failed

970
00:39:43,714 --> 00:39:44,154
Speaker 1: at work.

971
00:39:44,434 --> 00:39:45,513
Speaker 2: It's a destroyed rome.

972
00:39:46,554 --> 00:39:47,754
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, we have to get it out of here,

973
00:39:47,754 --> 00:39:49,873
Speaker 1: which stocks over the colim and I'm like, again, this

974
00:39:49,954 --> 00:39:52,954
Speaker 1: is not all her fault. I'm such an Emily apologist.

975
00:39:52,994 --> 00:39:56,594
Speaker 1: It's quite embarrassing. She walks into an American pub and

976
00:39:56,634 --> 00:39:59,874
Speaker 1: who does she meet but famed actor Brian Greenberg.

977
00:40:00,234 --> 00:40:00,834
Speaker 2: I don't know who.

978
00:40:01,954 --> 00:40:03,794
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is a scene.

979
00:40:03,594 --> 00:40:07,514
Speaker 2: I knew he wasn't Oh, is he in the Mindy Project?

980
00:40:07,514 --> 00:40:08,874
Speaker 1: He is in the MINDI Project.

981
00:40:09,434 --> 00:40:12,394
Speaker 2: He plays that hot nurse. Yep, oh, I love him.

982
00:40:12,554 --> 00:40:14,554
Speaker 1: That is not okay. Can I just tell you when

983
00:40:14,594 --> 00:40:15,914
Speaker 1: I saw him, and obviously I knew he was in

984
00:40:15,954 --> 00:40:17,594
Speaker 1: the season, that was a huge pot point. When I

985
00:40:17,594 --> 00:40:19,594
Speaker 1: saw him something to the counter, I'm like, here we go,

986
00:40:19,754 --> 00:40:22,433
Speaker 1: this is what I've been waiting for. And then he says, Hi,

987
00:40:22,674 --> 00:40:27,154
Speaker 1: I'm Jake. My scream rattled not only the house I

988
00:40:27,354 --> 00:40:31,154
Speaker 1: was in, but all the houses around us. Jake. People

989
00:40:31,274 --> 00:40:34,194
Speaker 1: know him from One Tree Hell. That is his most

990
00:40:34,234 --> 00:40:37,033
Speaker 1: shamous role. He is a very yes, a very very

991
00:40:37,034 --> 00:40:41,834
Speaker 1: important show. He was a recurring character across multiple seasons,

992
00:40:42,194 --> 00:40:46,834
Speaker 1: and the character he played was Jake Jillusky Jake Jellusky

993
00:40:47,234 --> 00:40:50,914
Speaker 1: basketball star and teen father Oh yeah, yeah yeah, Spoiler's

994
00:40:50,954 --> 00:40:53,314
Speaker 1: secret daughter he had. He had a huge relationship with

995
00:40:53,354 --> 00:40:55,114
Speaker 1: the mank with Peyton, one of the main characters on

996
00:40:55,154 --> 00:40:57,274
Speaker 1: the show, Everyone's like, we wanted her to end up

997
00:40:57,274 --> 00:40:59,594
Speaker 1: with him, not the other main character, Lucas, and his

998
00:40:59,674 --> 00:41:01,114
Speaker 1: whole thing was that he had hooked up with this

999
00:41:01,194 --> 00:41:02,674
Speaker 1: like anyway, he had a daughter. It was the whole thing.

1000
00:41:02,954 --> 00:41:04,994
Speaker 1: His name was Jake conn that so people still know

1001
00:41:05,154 --> 00:41:08,953
Speaker 1: him for twenty years later, people like, that's Jake from

1002
00:41:08,954 --> 00:41:11,194
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill. And so I'm assuming the writers did

1003
00:41:11,194 --> 00:41:15,114
Speaker 1: that on purpose. Yeah, surely, surely, surely, and surely I'm like,

1004
00:41:15,234 --> 00:41:16,154
Speaker 1: there's Ben from.

1005
00:41:18,194 --> 00:41:19,274
Speaker 2: From the Mindy Project.

1006
00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,514
Speaker 1: He's been in so many things by say they is

1007
00:41:21,634 --> 00:41:23,913
Speaker 1: too big, you know, I guess like Friends with Benefits,

1008
00:41:24,114 --> 00:41:26,234
Speaker 1: Bride Wars, all those kind of things. But I was

1009
00:41:26,274 --> 00:41:29,714
Speaker 1: just like, Jake is back. Jake's back, He's and so

1010
00:41:29,874 --> 00:41:33,274
Speaker 1: then they have the friends themed trivia, which I loved.

1011
00:41:33,354 --> 00:41:35,274
Speaker 2: Yeah, when she was getting all the questions right and

1012
00:41:35,314 --> 00:41:37,514
Speaker 2: the other girl in her team was annoyed that she

1013
00:41:37,554 --> 00:41:40,194
Speaker 2: was getting became friends. Yeamican friends. She saw that happen

1014
00:41:40,234 --> 00:41:42,194
Speaker 2: in like three seconds exactly.

1015
00:41:42,234 --> 00:41:44,114
Speaker 1: No, but I loved it because it just again good

1016
00:41:44,154 --> 00:41:46,354
Speaker 1: storytelling from Elli in Paris, because it just was such

1017
00:41:46,354 --> 00:41:48,034
Speaker 1: a kind of quick fire, like it happened over a

1018
00:41:48,034 --> 00:41:51,314
Speaker 1: few hours. We only saw like a few scenes, this

1019
00:41:51,354 --> 00:41:52,754
Speaker 1: is how you do like a build up. It's like,

1020
00:41:52,794 --> 00:41:55,274
Speaker 1: but then you saw them kind of like viling together.

1021
00:41:55,674 --> 00:41:58,474
Speaker 1: And then the next day when Sylvie essentially slut shames

1022
00:41:58,514 --> 00:42:00,074
Speaker 1: her in a presentation.

1023
00:42:03,674 --> 00:42:07,074
Speaker 2: Paris, well, She's like, Emily, what his instagram?

1024
00:42:07,594 --> 00:42:08,074
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1025
00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:09,594
Speaker 2: Can I have your instagram?

1026
00:42:09,754 --> 00:42:11,714
Speaker 1: Exactly, then goes on to show all the pictures.

1027
00:42:12,194 --> 00:42:13,873
Speaker 2: She's like when she kissed this boy and then this

1028
00:42:13,954 --> 00:42:15,914
Speaker 2: boy and then this boy, and she was wearing Lorier

1029
00:42:15,994 --> 00:42:17,433
Speaker 2: Paris lipstick while doing all of it.

1030
00:42:17,474 --> 00:42:19,634
Speaker 1: The first season, Sylvie tells her not just to work

1031
00:42:19,674 --> 00:42:22,434
Speaker 1: in Paris to have a romance. I would have been like, Sylvia,

1032
00:42:22,514 --> 00:42:24,794
Speaker 1: did exactly what you said. I did my homework, yeah

1033
00:42:25,034 --> 00:42:27,433
Speaker 1: and so, and then Emily's like, how dare you on

1034
00:42:27,474 --> 00:42:30,994
Speaker 1: the fourth of July, you disgrace my name. I'm taking

1035
00:42:31,034 --> 00:42:33,393
Speaker 1: the rest of the day off, where she heads to

1036
00:42:33,434 --> 00:42:35,714
Speaker 1: the American Embassy to go to the party.

1037
00:42:35,434 --> 00:42:37,994
Speaker 2: And she got to eat hot dogs for allegedly the

1038
00:42:37,994 --> 00:42:39,434
Speaker 2: first time since she's in Paris.

1039
00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:41,194
Speaker 1: I would believe you can't find a hot dog in Paris.

1040
00:42:41,194 --> 00:42:43,914
Speaker 1: I've never seen one there. And then she and Jake.

1041
00:42:44,594 --> 00:42:47,194
Speaker 1: I still can't believe that Slash and Ben have they yeah,

1042
00:42:47,274 --> 00:42:50,114
Speaker 1: Jake Ben, they have like quite a kind of romantic day,

1043
00:42:50,394 --> 00:42:54,234
Speaker 1: and then they go under the embassy and they where

1044
00:42:54,234 --> 00:42:56,794
Speaker 1: there's like a minimuleful of American food. Okay, anyone correct

1045
00:42:56,794 --> 00:42:58,873
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. I searched high and low to

1046
00:42:58,874 --> 00:43:03,514
Speaker 1: find out if that's real. Apparently it's not, worry but

1047
00:43:03,554 --> 00:43:06,074
Speaker 1: then I've heard I couldn't find anywhere officially that was real.

1048
00:43:06,074 --> 00:43:07,194
Speaker 1: But then some people are saying.

1049
00:43:07,434 --> 00:43:08,794
Speaker 2: I feel like, if you have it in one embassy,

1050
00:43:08,834 --> 00:43:10,074
Speaker 2: you'll have to have it in all of them. And

1051
00:43:10,114 --> 00:43:11,513
Speaker 2: I don't think that would happen in all of them.

1052
00:43:11,754 --> 00:43:12,794
Speaker 2: Would be grateful, is reel?

1053
00:43:12,874 --> 00:43:14,834
Speaker 1: I so wanted to be like, let's go to the

1054
00:43:14,874 --> 00:43:17,953
Speaker 1: American Embassy here, okay, and like break in and see

1055
00:43:17,954 --> 00:43:19,714
Speaker 1: if we can find them. Okay, we just definitely got

1056
00:43:19,754 --> 00:43:20,634
Speaker 1: put on a watch list with that.

1057
00:43:21,034 --> 00:43:21,834
Speaker 2: We have to do it for work.

1058
00:43:21,834 --> 00:43:22,834
Speaker 1: We'll be like, we're just here to see if you

1059
00:43:22,874 --> 00:43:25,634
Speaker 1: guys have a little mitligis and pop tarts. What's down.

1060
00:43:26,674 --> 00:43:29,834
Speaker 1: So there's been such a perfect build up to Jake

1061
00:43:29,874 --> 00:43:33,873
Speaker 1: Ben and Emily's romance, like they're meet cute and like

1062
00:43:33,914 --> 00:43:36,594
Speaker 1: their like lovely kind of day in the American Embassy

1063
00:43:36,634 --> 00:43:39,154
Speaker 1: and sitting on the floor eating foods, so romantic. They're

1064
00:43:39,194 --> 00:43:43,394
Speaker 1: watching fireworks. I know, it's really nice, not more romantic.

1065
00:43:43,834 --> 00:43:45,994
Speaker 1: And then the worst thing that's ever happened to anyone

1066
00:43:46,274 --> 00:43:49,674
Speaker 1: the whole world happens, which is Emily has the realization

1067
00:43:50,154 --> 00:43:52,953
Speaker 1: that Mindy is her family, which is so lovely, and

1068
00:43:53,074 --> 00:43:57,274
Speaker 1: poor jake Ben, Sweet jake Ben doesn't realize that she's

1069
00:43:57,314 --> 00:43:59,873
Speaker 1: not talking about him, and fair enough to him, they're

1070
00:43:59,914 --> 00:44:02,794
Speaker 1: in a rom coom in any other world, he is

1071
00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:05,754
Speaker 1: correct that she's hitting on him, and he leans over

1072
00:44:05,794 --> 00:44:06,274
Speaker 1: to kiss her.

1073
00:44:06,354 --> 00:44:08,114
Speaker 2: And the thing is he's so much taller than her,

1074
00:44:08,154 --> 00:44:10,434
Speaker 2: so that lean was long, it was so long.

1075
00:44:10,234 --> 00:44:11,993
Speaker 1: And he couldn't even pretend he was doing anything else,

1076
00:44:12,034 --> 00:44:12,873
Speaker 1: being like, why would you.

1077
00:44:12,874 --> 00:44:15,634
Speaker 2: Be leaving so many people behind them watching and think

1078
00:44:15,714 --> 00:44:18,474
Speaker 2: of that? And in her face she went, oh.

1079
00:44:19,194 --> 00:44:20,433
Speaker 3: Not you, Oh not you.

1080
00:44:20,594 --> 00:44:23,354
Speaker 1: Not you know, she says, oh, not you, she says it,

1081
00:44:23,914 --> 00:44:26,754
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, but he's the most embarrassed a

1082
00:44:26,834 --> 00:44:27,873
Speaker 1: human being has ever been.

1083
00:44:27,834 --> 00:44:30,034
Speaker 2: And he has to like go all the way back up.

1084
00:44:32,354 --> 00:44:35,514
Speaker 1: As a fellow tall person fireworks being down for no

1085
00:44:35,594 --> 00:44:38,433
Speaker 1: reason otherwise. It's a long journey back. And then he

1086
00:44:38,474 --> 00:44:40,674
Speaker 1: looks so mortified, which fair enough.

1087
00:44:40,674 --> 00:44:41,474
Speaker 2: And he's wearing a suit.

1088
00:44:41,554 --> 00:44:44,674
Speaker 1: He's wearing a suit at a barbecue. I know it's

1089
00:44:44,834 --> 00:44:46,514
Speaker 1: just and then she was like, bye, I have to

1090
00:44:46,554 --> 00:44:49,913
Speaker 1: go and leaves him just all of a sudden. One

1091
00:44:49,914 --> 00:44:53,594
Speaker 1: of the best romances she's ever had is just destroying.

1092
00:44:53,754 --> 00:44:56,873
Speaker 2: So really, yeah, he's so hot.

1093
00:44:57,034 --> 00:44:58,834
Speaker 1: No no, no, okay, yes, wasn't even worth it to

1094
00:44:58,914 --> 00:45:00,234
Speaker 1: get rid of him. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,

1095
00:45:00,314 --> 00:45:02,594
Speaker 1: it isn't worth having that moment. Can I tell you something?

1096
00:45:03,074 --> 00:45:05,913
Speaker 1: So season six has been confirmed because he's in it.

1097
00:45:06,474 --> 00:45:09,834
Speaker 1: I don't know in what capacity. I don't know what capacity.

1098
00:45:09,994 --> 00:45:12,474
Speaker 1: Oh please, I have to Oh I would love that.

1099
00:45:13,274 --> 00:45:17,593
Speaker 1: Oh stop he invites into another barbecue. Well he needs

1100
00:45:17,594 --> 00:45:20,913
Speaker 1: a redemption arc. We can't leave poor Jake. Juleski calls the.

1101
00:45:20,914 --> 00:45:23,474
Speaker 2: Present, I need another barbecue in parents.

1102
00:45:23,754 --> 00:45:25,114
Speaker 1: He's like, I know you are moving me, but I

1103
00:45:25,114 --> 00:45:28,314
Speaker 1: need to stay here. So that was the end of

1104
00:45:28,354 --> 00:45:30,954
Speaker 1: that moment, but it does lead to the reconciliation with Mindy.

1105
00:45:31,594 --> 00:45:35,034
Speaker 2: I feel like this whole season has been very much

1106
00:45:35,554 --> 00:45:40,074
Speaker 2: Emily and Mindy. But I need to talk about.

1107
00:45:39,914 --> 00:45:43,554
Speaker 4: Sylvie obviously, the real main character of the show. Okay,

1108
00:45:43,674 --> 00:45:46,194
Speaker 4: this is probably my favorite Sylvie out.

1109
00:45:45,994 --> 00:45:49,234
Speaker 2: Of all the season. I just found her so much

1110
00:45:49,274 --> 00:45:52,913
Speaker 2: fun this season, Like firstly she starts to like Emily.

1111
00:45:52,594 --> 00:45:55,314
Speaker 1: A bit more and I loved that. Do you know why?

1112
00:45:55,354 --> 00:45:59,714
Speaker 1: It feels so earned, Like it feels like we've really

1113
00:45:59,754 --> 00:46:02,194
Speaker 1: gone through like a proper journey with these women from

1114
00:46:02,234 --> 00:46:04,553
Speaker 1: like the initial kind of hatred and Emily trying things

1115
00:46:04,594 --> 00:46:07,034
Speaker 1: all the back and forth forth. It's like she's fired her,

1116
00:46:07,194 --> 00:46:09,474
Speaker 1: she's rehired her, and I feel like they're in a

1117
00:46:09,514 --> 00:46:12,114
Speaker 1: place now where like Sylvie's a really hard person to

1118
00:46:12,114 --> 00:46:14,194
Speaker 1: get to trust and like you, and the fact that

1119
00:46:14,234 --> 00:46:17,354
Speaker 1: she trusts and likes Emily now feels like, I don't know,

1120
00:46:17,354 --> 00:46:20,874
Speaker 1: it just feels like a really important storytelling moment that

1121
00:46:21,114 --> 00:46:22,873
Speaker 1: was It feels like it wasn't just something that was

1122
00:46:22,914 --> 00:46:25,594
Speaker 1: thrown in. It feels like five seasons have built up

1123
00:46:25,634 --> 00:46:26,433
Speaker 1: to that moment, and.

1124
00:46:26,474 --> 00:46:31,314
Speaker 2: Especially that one scene where they're leaving Paris and she says,

1125
00:46:31,394 --> 00:46:32,834
Speaker 2: I need my Emily in Paris.

1126
00:46:33,074 --> 00:46:35,314
Speaker 1: Yeah yes, oh sorry.

1127
00:46:35,274 --> 00:46:37,314
Speaker 2: When they're living Rome and Emily was just like so

1128
00:46:37,514 --> 00:46:40,114
Speaker 2: sad because it felt like a huge failure on her part.

1129
00:46:40,634 --> 00:46:42,473
Speaker 2: And I think that was like a way of her

1130
00:46:42,554 --> 00:46:46,074
Speaker 2: saying it's not you it's like the whole situation. Yeah, exactly. Also,

1131
00:46:46,234 --> 00:46:47,474
Speaker 2: her fashion is the best in this.

1132
00:46:47,554 --> 00:46:50,314
Speaker 1: Sage obviously, ten out of ten. Always, the whole thing

1133
00:46:50,354 --> 00:46:51,994
Speaker 1: was that her character was meant to be having like

1134
00:46:52,034 --> 00:46:55,194
Speaker 1: a kind of like a reinvention almost of her room,

1135
00:46:55,314 --> 00:46:57,954
Speaker 1: like she'd live there previously. She had a lover. She

1136
00:46:58,034 --> 00:47:00,314
Speaker 1: also had a friend in Mini Driver who I actually

1137
00:47:00,354 --> 00:47:04,114
Speaker 1: and it imple, didn't like her. And being palazo pau

1138
00:47:04,154 --> 00:47:05,954
Speaker 1: is a real thing. There's a lot of people in

1139
00:47:05,994 --> 00:47:08,593
Speaker 1: Europe and especially in who are plazo paul, which means

1140
00:47:08,594 --> 00:47:13,314
Speaker 1: that you've inherited this property that is fancy in this knee,

1141
00:47:13,314 --> 00:47:15,074
Speaker 1: but there's no money in the bank. Yeah, and so

1142
00:47:15,114 --> 00:47:17,234
Speaker 1: you're like, you actually can go and stay in those

1143
00:47:17,274 --> 00:47:20,114
Speaker 1: plazos and like airbnb them, but I feel like they

1144
00:47:20,194 --> 00:47:20,913
Speaker 1: don't like you to be.

1145
00:47:20,874 --> 00:47:23,073
Speaker 2: There, yeah, because but they need their money.

1146
00:47:23,154 --> 00:47:25,474
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So I quite loved her and like the

1147
00:47:25,514 --> 00:47:26,473
Speaker 1: influencer of it all.

1148
00:47:26,514 --> 00:47:28,314
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's so fun, Like I'm glad she's been

1149
00:47:28,354 --> 00:47:31,034
Speaker 2: introduced into this cast because I think her dynamic works

1150
00:47:31,074 --> 00:47:33,234
Speaker 2: really well with the rest. Yeah, I want to talk

1151
00:47:33,234 --> 00:47:36,314
Speaker 2: about the issue of like Sylvie.

1152
00:47:36,034 --> 00:47:39,594
Speaker 1: Dating a younger man, oh again, because she does that

1153
00:47:39,594 --> 00:47:40,354
Speaker 1: a lot throughout the show.

1154
00:47:40,394 --> 00:47:42,114
Speaker 2: She does it a lot throughout the show, and I

1155
00:47:42,154 --> 00:47:45,034
Speaker 2: feel like this is the first season where we've seen

1156
00:47:45,554 --> 00:47:48,794
Speaker 2: the repercussions of what happens when we they are young men,

1157
00:47:48,874 --> 00:47:51,634
Speaker 2: and that is when you rekindle a friendship that was

1158
00:47:51,834 --> 00:47:55,194
Speaker 2: lost before we see and it was lost, it was lost.

1159
00:47:55,394 --> 00:47:57,594
Speaker 2: And then they get back together and they're talking like

1160
00:47:57,674 --> 00:48:01,473
Speaker 2: no time has passed, and they start really appreciating being

1161
00:48:01,514 --> 00:48:03,954
Speaker 2: each other's lives again and they want to be friends again,

1162
00:48:04,034 --> 00:48:06,434
Speaker 2: and then she goes over to their house and then

1163
00:48:06,714 --> 00:48:09,754
Speaker 2: we I think like it was one of those situations

1164
00:48:09,754 --> 00:48:12,234
Speaker 2: I felt like I caught on quite late.

1165
00:48:13,074 --> 00:48:15,714
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, when I felt like it's meant to

1166
00:48:15,714 --> 00:48:17,993
Speaker 1: be a big surprise reveal. But I think like they

1167
00:48:18,034 --> 00:48:19,634
Speaker 1: hit you over the head with the build up so much,

1168
00:48:19,674 --> 00:48:21,074
Speaker 1: like I knew what it was going to be, but.

1169
00:48:21,634 --> 00:48:24,674
Speaker 2: Still I had no idea. So that was when I

1170
00:48:24,754 --> 00:48:28,234
Speaker 2: screamed at the TV when she was like, oh, I

1171
00:48:28,274 --> 00:48:31,314
Speaker 2: had quite similar wallpaper that looks like my bathroom, and

1172
00:48:31,314 --> 00:48:34,913
Speaker 2: then I was like and then he came out and

1173
00:48:34,954 --> 00:48:38,513
Speaker 2: he was like mom, he was like Sylvie, and then

1174
00:48:38,554 --> 00:48:41,393
Speaker 2: she literally just high tailed out of there. Yeah, as

1175
00:48:41,434 --> 00:48:42,433
Speaker 2: you were what else could you do.

1176
00:48:42,514 --> 00:48:44,474
Speaker 1: Sylvia Gratau knows how to get out of a situation

1177
00:48:44,514 --> 00:48:46,834
Speaker 1: when she probably blocked both of them because she had

1178
00:48:46,834 --> 00:48:49,634
Speaker 1: that whole thing of like rekindling her romance with the

1179
00:48:49,674 --> 00:48:52,913
Speaker 1: director in Rome, and then he betrayed her pretty much,

1180
00:48:52,914 --> 00:48:55,034
Speaker 1: and they wanted her back when she was successful, and

1181
00:48:55,074 --> 00:48:57,074
Speaker 1: then there's been the whole back and forth between her

1182
00:48:57,114 --> 00:48:59,954
Speaker 1: and Laurent. And I liked their relationship a lot, Like

1183
00:48:59,994 --> 00:49:02,354
Speaker 1: I loved when he was introduced as a secret husband

1184
00:49:02,594 --> 00:49:04,794
Speaker 1: that she had living in Centrepe and like this whole

1185
00:49:04,834 --> 00:49:07,393
Speaker 1: crazy life she'd had before she moved to Paris to

1186
00:49:07,394 --> 00:49:10,794
Speaker 1: work in marketing. But she he's become dead weight him

1187
00:49:10,874 --> 00:49:11,354
Speaker 1: and he's.

1188
00:49:11,234 --> 00:49:13,913
Speaker 2: Still daughter him managed villain, and.

1189
00:49:17,634 --> 00:49:20,674
Speaker 1: So that's when like men just can't be hot, No,

1190
00:49:21,234 --> 00:49:23,754
Speaker 1: they have to be always something, there's always something more

1191
00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:25,953
Speaker 1: than that. And I loved her open relationship. I thought

1192
00:49:25,994 --> 00:49:27,554
Speaker 1: that was such a good dynamic. And I love that

1193
00:49:27,634 --> 00:49:30,474
Speaker 1: it wasn't the fact that it wasn't jealousy or anything

1194
00:49:30,514 --> 00:49:32,594
Speaker 1: like that that ruined their open relationship, because I think

1195
00:49:32,634 --> 00:49:34,354
Speaker 1: that's Sylvias the kind of person who does thrive and

1196
00:49:34,434 --> 00:49:36,754
Speaker 1: in an open relationship, and that makes her a more

1197
00:49:36,754 --> 00:49:38,913
Speaker 1: interesting character. It was the fact that he just wasn't

1198
00:49:38,954 --> 00:49:41,314
Speaker 1: respecting her. Yeah, and that she felt like he was

1199
00:49:41,394 --> 00:49:42,994
Speaker 1: dead weight living in her house.

1200
00:49:42,794 --> 00:49:45,514
Speaker 2: And then also like following her to Rome and demanding

1201
00:49:45,554 --> 00:49:46,834
Speaker 2: that she comes back.

1202
00:49:46,914 --> 00:49:48,754
Speaker 1: Or what do you think when she drove the boat away,

1203
00:49:50,354 --> 00:49:50,754
Speaker 1: I can't.

1204
00:49:51,194 --> 00:49:52,314
Speaker 2: I knew she was going to do it.

1205
00:49:52,354 --> 00:49:54,674
Speaker 1: I'm like that boat is really carrying this whole episode.

1206
00:49:55,114 --> 00:49:58,154
Speaker 2: She the way she walks, like with her arms like

1207
00:49:58,194 --> 00:49:59,514
Speaker 2: flailing his side.

1208
00:49:59,954 --> 00:50:02,354
Speaker 1: But who amongst us hasn't sometimes just wanted to run

1209
00:50:02,434 --> 00:50:04,794
Speaker 1: to a boat and just like sail away.

1210
00:50:04,554 --> 00:50:05,393
Speaker 2: At less she knew what to do.

1211
00:50:05,474 --> 00:50:07,514
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what to do in the boat and

1212
00:50:07,594 --> 00:50:10,754
Speaker 1: wait for some wait for someone to come and catch you.

1213
00:50:10,754 --> 00:50:12,114
Speaker 1: You just followed away.

1214
00:50:14,154 --> 00:50:19,994
Speaker 2: At my arms, get tired and the boat gets pushed

1215
00:50:19,994 --> 00:50:20,553
Speaker 2: back to shore.

1216
00:50:22,234 --> 00:50:25,034
Speaker 1: Can I say there's a dignified way to storm it

1217
00:50:25,154 --> 00:50:31,994
Speaker 1: on a rowboat? At least move and you're doing this?

1218
00:50:36,154 --> 00:50:38,634
Speaker 1: Sylvie looked like fricking James Bond. She jumps in the boat,

1219
00:50:38,794 --> 00:50:41,194
Speaker 1: she starts the engine, the winds in her hair. She

1220
00:50:41,234 --> 00:50:43,674
Speaker 1: looks so like chic and then cut to you in

1221
00:50:43,714 --> 00:50:46,114
Speaker 1: a rowboat not the same vine. All right, Well, I'm

1222
00:50:46,114 --> 00:50:48,714
Speaker 1: glad we ruled that off the list of your escape row. Yeah,

1223
00:50:48,754 --> 00:50:51,393
Speaker 1: thank god, and yeah I did. Yeah, I loved the

1224
00:50:51,434 --> 00:50:53,873
Speaker 1: whole revealer of that episode and also like just kind

1225
00:50:53,874 --> 00:50:55,834
Speaker 1: of where we found her at the end, because she

1226
00:50:55,914 --> 00:50:57,913
Speaker 1: is the one getting into last episode. She's the one

1227
00:50:57,914 --> 00:51:00,274
Speaker 1: that kind of really moves the needle over to next

1228
00:51:00,274 --> 00:51:04,234
Speaker 1: season because she is the one that lets Gabrielle know

1229
00:51:04,314 --> 00:51:06,274
Speaker 1: that Emily is now single. But before we get to that,

1230
00:51:06,314 --> 00:51:08,674
Speaker 1: we obviously have my Cello comes back on the scene

1231
00:51:08,914 --> 00:51:12,394
Speaker 1: in the most annoying way possible. Sylvie's up on stage

1232
00:51:12,434 --> 00:51:15,433
Speaker 1: at a luxury convention. She's having her moment, and then

1233
00:51:15,514 --> 00:51:18,433
Speaker 1: remember this, Marcello stands up in the audience and like

1234
00:51:18,594 --> 00:51:21,114
Speaker 1: challenges her and then announces his new job like he's

1235
00:51:21,114 --> 00:51:23,473
Speaker 1: the prince of everything. He's like many of you would

1236
00:51:23,514 --> 00:51:25,953
Speaker 1: know me. I am Machella Moratory. I'm like, sit down.

1237
00:51:26,194 --> 00:51:28,634
Speaker 2: And then Emily stands up and starts having a conversation

1238
00:51:28,714 --> 00:51:30,514
Speaker 2: with him, and they went back and forth like no

1239
00:51:30,514 --> 00:51:32,393
Speaker 2: one else was in the room. I'm like, this isn't

1240
00:51:32,474 --> 00:51:33,954
Speaker 2: after event talk.

1241
00:51:34,354 --> 00:51:36,393
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's a moderator said. She's like, I do

1242
00:51:36,434 --> 00:51:39,274
Speaker 1: think we've straight into personal territory. And then the whole

1243
00:51:39,274 --> 00:51:42,354
Speaker 1: thing comes so Nikolai has left his family business, Marcello

1244
00:51:42,434 --> 00:51:45,033
Speaker 1: has left his family business, and these crazy Nepo baby

1245
00:51:45,114 --> 00:51:46,993
Speaker 1: kids are going into business together.

1246
00:51:47,074 --> 00:51:49,393
Speaker 2: Or could do anything they put their mind.

1247
00:51:49,594 --> 00:51:52,114
Speaker 1: Well, they can't because as normal, Emily has to come

1248
00:51:52,114 --> 00:51:54,514
Speaker 1: in and Emily at this stage is keeping every business

1249
00:51:54,554 --> 00:51:57,274
Speaker 1: in Paris afloat. They can't find a chef. She finds

1250
00:51:57,274 --> 00:51:59,553
Speaker 1: a chef. They need like to like hire new people

1251
00:51:59,554 --> 00:52:01,594
Speaker 1: their new new building. They need funds, they need this.

1252
00:52:01,674 --> 00:52:03,913
Speaker 1: Like her job doesn't even resembable market and she just

1253
00:52:03,914 --> 00:52:07,034
Speaker 1: finds she does. She's a doer. So then they go

1254
00:52:07,194 --> 00:52:08,834
Speaker 1: back to Rome, which I thought was a nice kind

1255
00:52:08,834 --> 00:52:11,554
Speaker 1: of bookend from the season to have the fashion show,

1256
00:52:11,994 --> 00:52:13,354
Speaker 1: and this is where we had the whole thing of

1257
00:52:13,354 --> 00:52:16,674
Speaker 1: her finding the ring. Oh see, this was more of

1258
00:52:16,714 --> 00:52:18,634
Speaker 1: the plot twist for me, Like I did collection my

1259
00:52:18,674 --> 00:52:22,554
Speaker 1: sister called it. When I first saw the ring, I

1260
00:52:22,594 --> 00:52:25,114
Speaker 1: thought potentially that he was going to propose to her,

1261
00:52:25,154 --> 00:52:27,393
Speaker 1: But then as we went along it became a bit more. Yeah,

1262
00:52:27,474 --> 00:52:30,474
Speaker 1: I was like, I immediately thought that he was holding

1263
00:52:30,514 --> 00:52:31,874
Speaker 1: it for Nikolai.

1264
00:52:32,114 --> 00:52:32,953
Speaker 2: Oh you did know that?

1265
00:52:33,394 --> 00:52:35,473
Speaker 1: Oh I see, I didn't clock that straight away because it's.

1266
00:52:35,394 --> 00:52:36,754
Speaker 2: A classic Friends episode.

1267
00:52:37,074 --> 00:52:40,474
Speaker 1: Oh sure, and I'm like, yeah, at the Emily and

1268
00:52:40,474 --> 00:52:43,074
Speaker 1: Paris is just friends in Paris and friends in Paris,

1269
00:52:43,434 --> 00:52:45,554
Speaker 1: and so yeah, we had that build up. And then

1270
00:52:45,674 --> 00:52:47,554
Speaker 1: the second worst thing happened.

1271
00:52:47,594 --> 00:52:48,634
Speaker 2: The first thing was to.

1272
00:52:48,994 --> 00:52:52,674
Speaker 1: Jake when he thought that Emily was wanting to kiss him.

1273
00:52:52,714 --> 00:52:54,714
Speaker 1: And then the second most embarrassing thing that's ever happened

1274
00:52:54,714 --> 00:52:56,514
Speaker 1: to anyone in the whole world is when they're on

1275
00:52:56,594 --> 00:52:59,913
Speaker 1: the little gondola in Venice going through the canals and

1276
00:53:00,114 --> 00:53:02,714
Speaker 1: the ring gets pulled out and Emily just yells, no,

1277
00:53:02,794 --> 00:53:06,074
Speaker 1: I will not marry you, oh God, which is very

1278
00:53:07,474 --> 00:53:09,354
Speaker 1: in the end of Family Stone. No I will met

1279
00:53:09,434 --> 00:53:11,314
Speaker 1: not marry you. I wasn't asking you to. It was

1280
00:53:11,314 --> 00:53:14,354
Speaker 1: the same thing. Hey, maybe this writer's just watched Family

1281
00:53:14,434 --> 00:53:15,074
Speaker 1: Stone and we're.

1282
00:53:14,914 --> 00:53:19,913
Speaker 2: Like, but imagine getting rejected by someone even though you're

1283
00:53:19,954 --> 00:53:23,874
Speaker 2: not proposing. Yeah, that's worse. Yeah, that's worse than proposing.

1284
00:53:23,914 --> 00:53:25,154
Speaker 1: And that cinema has taught us.

1285
00:53:25,194 --> 00:53:26,034
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1286
00:53:26,074 --> 00:53:28,274
Speaker 1: And so then Nickola in front of your friends, Yeah,

1287
00:53:28,274 --> 00:53:29,873
Speaker 1: and you're just the four of you sitting knee to

1288
00:53:29,954 --> 00:53:30,834
Speaker 1: knee those gondolas.

1289
00:53:30,834 --> 00:53:33,234
Speaker 2: There's there, and there's also random man at the back.

1290
00:53:33,394 --> 00:53:37,794
Speaker 1: Yeah. The things those gondolia are like drivers must have

1291
00:53:37,874 --> 00:53:40,514
Speaker 1: seen over the years, the amount of proposals they've seen turned.

1292
00:53:40,314 --> 00:53:41,114
Speaker 2: In so many says.

1293
00:53:41,274 --> 00:53:42,994
Speaker 1: I do think if you get asked on a gondola

1294
00:53:43,034 --> 00:53:45,074
Speaker 1: in Paris, it's like if you get asked at Disneyland

1295
00:53:45,074 --> 00:53:46,873
Speaker 1: on the fire works are going off, or you get

1296
00:53:46,874 --> 00:53:48,314
Speaker 1: asked in front of the Eiffel Tower, Like you just

1297
00:53:48,314 --> 00:53:50,393
Speaker 1: say yes and then take the same way later. Yeah,

1298
00:53:50,394 --> 00:53:53,234
Speaker 1: because it's like the moment it's public, it's romantic, like

1299
00:53:53,274 --> 00:53:54,994
Speaker 1: you say yes, and then like the next day.

1300
00:53:54,874 --> 00:53:57,514
Speaker 2: You say hey, no, and also that was weird.

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00:53:57,714 --> 00:53:58,913
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also don't do that.

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00:53:59,114 --> 00:54:00,274
Speaker 2: I never do that again.

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00:54:00,434 --> 00:54:02,873
Speaker 1: But she does say yes. Mm hmmm, what did you

1304
00:54:02,874 --> 00:54:04,634
Speaker 1: think of that? I was like, really, you guys just

1305
00:54:04,634 --> 00:54:06,474
Speaker 1: got back together after quite a horrific breakouver.

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00:54:06,514 --> 00:54:09,074
Speaker 2: Well, this is like so I called the ring thing.

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00:54:09,794 --> 00:54:14,634
Speaker 2: And then the way she said yes, I immediately went, oh, no,

1308
00:54:14,794 --> 00:54:17,034
Speaker 2: they're going to make this a love triangle with Alfie. Yeah,

1309
00:54:17,074 --> 00:54:18,234
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to come back.

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00:54:18,674 --> 00:54:20,474
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there'll be some build up to the wedding.

1311
00:54:20,474 --> 00:54:22,994
Speaker 1: That wedding's not happening. I'm gonna go on. I'm going

1312
00:54:23,034 --> 00:54:24,594
Speaker 1: to save her one bed with Emily.

1313
00:54:24,714 --> 00:54:27,394
Speaker 2: They were so toxic together like he ruined her career.

1314
00:54:27,794 --> 00:54:30,154
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually never liked them as a couple. And

1315
00:54:30,194 --> 00:54:32,834
Speaker 1: I also always got the idea that you weren't supposed

1316
00:54:32,834 --> 00:54:33,834
Speaker 1: to like them as a couple.

1317
00:54:33,954 --> 00:54:36,354
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's like been cemented now that

1318
00:54:36,394 --> 00:54:37,314
Speaker 2: Alfie's in the picture.

1319
00:54:37,474 --> 00:54:41,034
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was presented as a nemesis from the start,

1320
00:54:41,194 --> 00:54:43,714
Speaker 1: and he was so mean to Emily. There's not all

1321
00:54:43,714 --> 00:54:45,354
Speaker 1: the word for it. He was mean to Emily, not

1322
00:54:45,394 --> 00:54:46,913
Speaker 1: just in a business sense, but like in a quite

1323
00:54:46,914 --> 00:54:49,154
Speaker 1: a cruel sense throughout the series. And she is our

1324
00:54:49,234 --> 00:54:51,234
Speaker 1: like lover or hater, Like she's our main girl. You're

1325
00:54:51,314 --> 00:54:53,994
Speaker 1: meant to like see the story through her eyes. So

1326
00:54:54,114 --> 00:54:55,554
Speaker 1: I always thought he was kind of like a villain.

1327
00:54:55,594 --> 00:54:57,034
Speaker 1: So when he left, I was like, yeah, fair enough,

1328
00:54:57,154 --> 00:54:59,754
Speaker 1: he does have villain energy. He does well, it's his face, Yeah,

1329
00:54:59,994 --> 00:55:02,514
Speaker 1: this is a villain face. He died, And when he

1330
00:55:02,594 --> 00:55:04,714
Speaker 1: comes to Emily towards the end of the season, and

1331
00:55:04,754 --> 00:55:06,714
Speaker 1: he comes from the street like a man tormented being

1332
00:55:07,154 --> 00:55:09,314
Speaker 1: for my business. I can't get in touch with Mindy

1333
00:55:09,634 --> 00:55:10,954
Speaker 1: and I just want to tell her I love her

1334
00:55:10,994 --> 00:55:12,554
Speaker 1: and I'm so sorry. And I think he's like the

1335
00:55:12,674 --> 00:55:15,274
Speaker 1: character is written to be very, very earnest.

1336
00:55:15,394 --> 00:55:17,794
Speaker 2: But he still comes across evil and.

1337
00:55:17,674 --> 00:55:19,993
Speaker 1: It's just he's got resting evil face.

1338
00:55:20,074 --> 00:55:20,754
Speaker 2: Yeah he does.

1339
00:55:21,034 --> 00:55:23,033
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think that's why he and Ashley Park

1340
00:55:23,074 --> 00:55:24,953
Speaker 1: broke up in real life because they were together for years.

1341
00:55:24,994 --> 00:55:26,794
Speaker 2: I forgot they were together for years.

1342
00:55:26,994 --> 00:55:29,194
Speaker 1: So she really died. She got sepsis, and he like

1343
00:55:29,274 --> 00:55:31,354
Speaker 1: nursed her back to the doctors. Did he was just

1344
00:55:31,394 --> 00:55:33,873
Speaker 1: in the room. She put up a tribute being like

1345
00:55:33,874 --> 00:55:34,553
Speaker 1: he saved my life.

1346
00:55:34,554 --> 00:55:35,154
Speaker 2: He was in the room.

1347
00:55:35,194 --> 00:55:37,074
Speaker 1: But like they've been here, they were together.

1348
00:55:36,914 --> 00:55:39,714
Speaker 2: So long, and then maybe they did the whole like,

1349
00:55:39,874 --> 00:55:42,554
Speaker 2: you guys don't really have any chemistry anymore and we

1350
00:55:42,594 --> 00:55:44,714
Speaker 2: don't want to keep like pushing this for you. But

1351
00:55:44,834 --> 00:55:48,433
Speaker 2: I also think they didn't make Alfie and Mindy a

1352
00:55:48,434 --> 00:55:50,794
Speaker 2: believable couple either. Yeah, so I'm like, I don't know

1353
00:55:50,834 --> 00:55:51,714
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do with her.

1354
00:55:51,914 --> 00:55:53,914
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's the thing because for so long the

1355
00:55:53,994 --> 00:55:56,074
Speaker 1: show was like a lot reading for either of these men. Yeah,

1356
00:55:56,074 --> 00:55:58,594
Speaker 1: I don't get both of them. No, I still want

1357
00:55:58,594 --> 00:56:01,114
Speaker 1: Alfie and Emily to be together. That's my thing that

1358
00:56:01,154 --> 00:56:03,314
Speaker 1: I really want, way more than Gabrielle.

1359
00:56:03,314 --> 00:56:04,873
Speaker 2: I want to be together because he's so hot.

1360
00:56:05,074 --> 00:56:07,034
Speaker 1: No, that's all why because they have actual chemistry and

1361
00:56:07,154 --> 00:56:10,154
Speaker 1: steaks and a backstory. I would love them to you together.

1362
00:56:10,154 --> 00:56:11,954
Speaker 2: But haha, whooped.

1363
00:56:12,194 --> 00:56:14,514
Speaker 1: Yeah that was bad. Everyone was a little bit badly.

1364
00:56:14,554 --> 00:56:16,634
Speaker 1: I think the writers kind of forgot who they were

1365
00:56:16,674 --> 00:56:18,433
Speaker 1: dealing with this year. Yeah, like they should have gone

1366
00:56:18,434 --> 00:56:21,314
Speaker 1: to watch some of those recap videos on YouTube remind

1367
00:56:21,354 --> 00:56:23,754
Speaker 1: themselves who these people are, because I think the thing

1368
00:56:23,794 --> 00:56:25,634
Speaker 1: is we've lost our big love triangle of the show.

1369
00:56:25,714 --> 00:56:29,154
Speaker 1: So it used to be Gabrielle, Kimille and Emily, and

1370
00:56:29,194 --> 00:56:32,074
Speaker 1: obviously they've taken Gabrielle out of it, Kimil's gone, Emily's

1371
00:56:32,074 --> 00:56:33,913
Speaker 1: in a different storyline, So I think they're trying to.

1372
00:56:34,394 --> 00:56:35,914
Speaker 2: Rep there was like a budget one.

1373
00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:39,474
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to replicate the tu version of the

1374
00:56:39,554 --> 00:56:42,154
Speaker 1: love triangle. They've tried to replicate the success of that

1375
00:56:42,234 --> 00:56:43,074
Speaker 1: love triangle.

1376
00:56:42,874 --> 00:56:44,393
Speaker 2: Three people who don't even like each other.

1377
00:56:44,474 --> 00:56:46,474
Speaker 1: This one has no stakes to it. Yeah, so we

1378
00:56:46,554 --> 00:56:48,874
Speaker 1: do know that where we've left them now is that

1379
00:56:49,194 --> 00:56:51,714
Speaker 1: Emily and Nickolay are engaged, but Alfie wants to be

1380
00:56:51,794 --> 00:56:53,194
Speaker 1: with her, so there is going to be and it's

1381
00:56:53,234 --> 00:56:55,433
Speaker 1: been locked in for another season. Thank god. Ope show

1382
00:56:55,474 --> 00:56:58,553
Speaker 1: runs for twenty more years. So we know that that's

1383
00:56:58,554 --> 00:57:00,754
Speaker 1: probably going to be the central plotline of next season

1384
00:57:00,834 --> 00:57:01,674
Speaker 1: for all those characters.

1385
00:57:01,674 --> 00:57:03,554
Speaker 2: As long as I've seeing more Alfie, I'm fine.

1386
00:57:03,274 --> 00:57:06,274
Speaker 1: Well, yeah he's Ben. He's in next season, and we

1387
00:57:06,314 --> 00:57:08,594
Speaker 1: know Ben's back. So where we finished with Emily is

1388
00:57:08,634 --> 00:57:11,714
Speaker 1: that Gabrielle took a job on a supert. I'm in sure.

1389
00:57:11,794 --> 00:57:14,154
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the jet setter he's on.

1390
00:57:15,074 --> 00:57:16,794
Speaker 1: He's got his new hair, he's got his new neck.

1391
00:57:16,954 --> 00:57:20,394
Speaker 1: Did she say? He's all over it? And then we

1392
00:57:20,434 --> 00:57:22,474
Speaker 1: find that Sylvia is the one who lets him know

1393
00:57:22,834 --> 00:57:23,874
Speaker 1: that Emily is single.

1394
00:57:24,154 --> 00:57:26,874
Speaker 2: Sylvia is like a do what you want with this information,

1395
00:57:27,074 --> 00:57:28,274
Speaker 2: but Emily is single.

1396
00:57:28,074 --> 00:57:29,834
Speaker 1: Out and so he reached out to Emily. And so

1397
00:57:29,874 --> 00:57:31,594
Speaker 1: I do think next season is going to start with

1398
00:57:31,634 --> 00:57:33,834
Speaker 1: Emily and Greece, or at least that's there'll be a

1399
00:57:33,834 --> 00:57:34,514
Speaker 1: few episodes.

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00:57:34,554 --> 00:57:36,114
Speaker 2: It's just travel around the world.

1401
00:57:36,874 --> 00:57:38,834
Speaker 1: I would love to see that from them.

1402
00:57:38,874 --> 00:57:40,074
Speaker 2: So that's where we end.

1403
00:57:40,154 --> 00:57:42,114
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the next season because I feel like,

1404
00:57:42,154 --> 00:57:43,874
Speaker 1: you know, things are in a state now where like

1405
00:57:43,954 --> 00:57:45,314
Speaker 1: the story is going to kick into like a new

1406
00:57:45,394 --> 00:57:46,114
Speaker 1: fur sections.

1407
00:57:46,114 --> 00:57:47,714
Speaker 2: I hope. I felt like the season was a bit

1408
00:57:47,754 --> 00:57:49,554
Speaker 2: of a lull compared to other seasons.

1409
00:57:49,674 --> 00:57:52,394
Speaker 1: I did think that too. I yeah, it felt it

1410
00:57:52,434 --> 00:57:54,194
Speaker 1: felt a little bit like a philler season even though

1411
00:57:54,194 --> 00:57:54,754
Speaker 1: it shouldn't have.

1412
00:57:54,834 --> 00:57:57,074
Speaker 2: And I do feel like the writers have heard the people.

1413
00:57:57,114 --> 00:58:01,714
Speaker 1: Oh they have they Okayaris, I think the next season

1414
00:58:01,754 --> 00:58:03,954
Speaker 1: it's going to be good. Yeah exactly. I mean obviously,

1415
00:58:03,954 --> 00:58:05,593
Speaker 1: I still loved it, and I've watched like four times

1416
00:58:05,594 --> 00:58:09,314
Speaker 1: and I'm watching ten more times. We get there. But yeah,

1417
00:58:09,354 --> 00:58:10,914
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the next season, and I just hope

1418
00:58:10,914 --> 00:58:12,314
Speaker 1: they sort of righte some of those wrongs because you

1419
00:58:12,434 --> 00:58:13,674
Speaker 1: know what, I do love all these characters.

1420
00:58:13,714 --> 00:58:15,874
Speaker 2: I know you do, Emily in Paris.

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00:58:15,914 --> 00:58:16,714
Speaker 1: Is there anything better?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today.

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