WEBVTT - Week 5: Why Does My Baby Look Like A Dinosaur?

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<v Speaker 2>I am pregnanty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Hallo Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully more manageable. I'm Grace Ruvey. I am pregnant for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, and although I haven't drunk any alcohol,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I am hungover every day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's got great. I'm Yana Pittman. I'm a former Olympian,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a mother of six small humans, and I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>pistetric and Guyani registrar, which basically means I have the

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<v Speaker 2>privilege of helping you both your babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Each episode, Yana and I will be holding your hand

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<v Speaker 1>week by week through the mysterious, perplexing and very new

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<v Speaker 1>world that is the miracle of pregnant seed. Week five. So, Yana,

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<v Speaker 1>how big is the baby at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, your embro is now the size of an orange seed. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just went to oranges have seeds exactly what I

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<v Speaker 2>do know, but they have seedless oranges these days. But

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<v Speaker 2>a nail head.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all the heart button on Instagram? Okay, yes? Or

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<v Speaker 1>an earings.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something. It's small, still small, it's only about a

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<v Speaker 2>millimeter in size, but it's doubling. It's doubling quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, when you start to put those things next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other, you do see the increase ex exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's important to say here when they

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<v Speaker 2>do an ultrasand which I don't want you having, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>yet's the way too early. They measure the size of

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<v Speaker 2>the gestational sack. So I remember last week we said its

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<v Speaker 2>two point five, but that's actually the sack size. The

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<v Speaker 2>fetus is the little guy inside. It's now measurable, which

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<v Speaker 2>last week you wouldn't have seen it. So when we

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<v Speaker 2>say a millimeter, which is different from our last episode,

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<v Speaker 2>we're now actually seeing hopefully what we call a curl,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a little crown to rump, so head to

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<v Speaker 2>bum length of your baby that will eventually grow bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where they start to look like a

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaur because their head is massive and they have a tail.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of it. So tell me what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in our bodies this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a crucial level, crucial stage, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're laying down the foundations for future organs, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's important. But your baby's neural tube is now continuing

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<v Speaker 2>to close. It actually wonn't close till day twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>of pregnancy, sometimes one, but usually around twenty eight days.

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<v Speaker 2>It's when your baby's primitive heart is starting to form,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not beating yet, very rarely. It doesn't beat

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<v Speaker 2>to us about four ish millimeters three to four millimeters

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<v Speaker 2>in sides, So a few more days to go, and

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<v Speaker 2>little small limb buds are appearing, but you definitely can't

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<v Speaker 2>see them yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Limb buds.

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<v Speaker 2>Limb buds so like little little pokey things that will

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<v Speaker 2>eventually grow into their libing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's when those like we spoke about the

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<v Speaker 1>flow app. The flow app showed, Yeah, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a little dinosaur and I guess maybe that it's limb

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<v Speaker 1>buds where it looks like little dinosaur nubbins and a tail,

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<v Speaker 1>remember of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Its weird, like it does not look human.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like a lizard. The dinosaur reference. It does

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<v Speaker 1>look like a lizard. But more importantly, what's happening with me?

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<v Speaker 1>What what's happening to me? What's going on in our bodies?

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<v Speaker 2>This week continued symptoms so Unfortunately, guys, you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>rollercoaster for the next few weeks. That breast tenderness is

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<v Speaker 2>getting worse, that nausea is increasing. Unfortunately, can't even see

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<v Speaker 2>anything in your pregnant belly. It's as flat as a pancake,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the baby still well and truly sluggled in

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<v Speaker 2>the uterus, which is not above your pure big bone.

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<v Speaker 2>You might you're having more food aversions, you might be

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<v Speaker 2>feeling unusual dreams and thoughts and feelings, lots of emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're in for a bit of a roller coaster

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<v Speaker 2>for most women over the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is where smell aversion kicked in for me

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<v Speaker 1>in week five, which I thought was really I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect it to happen this early, and I dry reached.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't vomited yet. We'll get to that, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a very intense sensory experience. That's right. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one is your hormones of pregnancy just change

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<v Speaker 2>the way things happen. The next thing is the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you probably are starting to experience some nauseousness, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're just more triggered by smells. But why does that

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<v Speaker 2>happen largely because you're already would you believe having an

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<v Speaker 2>increase in your blood volume, so your body will buy

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<v Speaker 2>the end of pregnancy almost double, So it's fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>more blood volume at this point you're already starting, which

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<v Speaker 2>means you're getting more blood flowter than the olfactory, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the medical way of saying that the nerves in

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<v Speaker 2>your nose that all start sensing things. So there's lots happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And nausea is also a big part of it, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you're feeling sick, you're just not going to enjoy food.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything that I should start doing? What's a

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<v Speaker 1>to do list for this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? My goodness. So we talked about it a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit in first episode around ensuring your soroology is done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now getting more important because you're confidently pregnant. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to make sure you know about that blood group

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't want to miss the boat. If you

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<v Speaker 2>need some anti d start again looking at booking that

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<v Speaker 2>ultrasound some of the more. I'm sorry for those sonography

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<v Speaker 2>places that don't specialize in women's health, but I always

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<v Speaker 2>think if you can afford it now, not everyone can

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<v Speaker 2>go to one of the specialized women's centers. Okay, just

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<v Speaker 2>because they are that's what they do for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>They do it all day, every day, and so then

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to book it in because they can book

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<v Speaker 2>out quickly. So book your ultrasound for around the seven

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<v Speaker 2>week mark, so we want to confidently be able to

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<v Speaker 2>see a baby with a heartbeat. That's probably the highest

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<v Speaker 2>one on your list this week is check you've done

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<v Speaker 2>your blood tests and make sure that you're booked your ultrasound.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this point all of our care is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much through our GP, and there's not everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, through GP, but again plan because if you

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<v Speaker 2>want that GRIP practice or or even some obstricians do book.

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<v Speaker 1>Out fairly early. Some people might be getting excited and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to purchase things. Is it too early to purchase

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<v Speaker 1>things because we don't know if it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a chemical pregnancy, a miscarriage, or any of these outcomes

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<v Speaker 1>that are on fortunately quite common. What would you suggest

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<v Speaker 1>when people say, is it too early to just buy something?

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be honest, I went and bought a

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<v Speaker 2>little little, you know, outfit, But I think for me

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<v Speaker 2>it was because I wanted to make it real. The

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<v Speaker 2>first time I was pregnant, I also bought one the

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<v Speaker 2>time I had my first miscarriage as well, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was hard, but it was also a lovely reminder in

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<v Speaker 2>the future of you know that baby did exist. They're

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<v Speaker 2>part of that whole world and your whole life experience,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think really touches on an important point that

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<v Speaker 2>for generations it's been taboo to talk about pregnancy before

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<v Speaker 2>twelve weeks. You know, you don't want to tell anyone

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<v Speaker 2>because if you have a miscarriage, And I've always really

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<v Speaker 2>challenged that because I think why this is the time

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<v Speaker 2>when you actually need the support most. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>may not want to tell your boss at work, perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Work, yeah, but maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>A close colleague at work, because if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>miscarriage and you're a little bit down in the dumps

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<v Speaker 2>at work, you need someone who's going to go. I

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<v Speaker 2>can understand why she needs a tissue right now while

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<v Speaker 2>she's running off to the bathroom for a break, rather

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<v Speaker 2>than gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in a bad mood.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know it's an individual conversation, but it's one

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<v Speaker 2>that I want you to think about because I think

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<v Speaker 2>in pregnancy is probably the time you need someone most

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to hold your hand andrew that having done,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had four miscarriages unfortunately, and having to walk through

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<v Speaker 2>that space is hard. Doesn't matter what gestation you are,

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<v Speaker 2>and so having that support is I think is really

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<v Speaker 2>really important.

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<v Speaker 1>It does show you how like better we are at

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<v Speaker 1>talking about things like grief. And I wonder if that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it was don't talk about it but before twelve weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>because the pain of it is that don't see, don't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that whole here's a couple of concrete. Suck it up, princess.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of life, and it is part of life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. We know that twenty to twenty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of pregnancies will lend a miscarriage.

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<v Speaker 1>But it hurts, Yeah, really hurts. So in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>our toolkit for this week, my only advice for this talk,

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<v Speaker 1>it is to have dry crackers on you. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is five weeks, it is early, but just to

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<v Speaker 1>have something when if something is brought to you on

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<v Speaker 1>a plate and potentially the makeup of it is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit too complex for what you need right now, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>to just to have something. It's like strip you back

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<v Speaker 1>to childhood basics of food, dry cracker perposta.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't beat that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's my advice. Do you have anything for the

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<v Speaker 1>talk kit this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Start to be careful with comparisons, so just having that

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<v Speaker 2>conversation around. You're going to have a different pregnancy everybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, if you're starting to talk about mums

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<v Speaker 2>and looking up things on internet, just be a little

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<v Speaker 2>careful on who you decide to follow and who you

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<v Speaker 2>look at because it is a different journey for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great advice. What about like pelvic floor physios or

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<v Speaker 1>great or people like yourself, people who are obstitutions or

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<v Speaker 1>training to be obstetricians. Should you start following them because

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<v Speaker 1>the facts are going to be more medical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And there's a couple of good books this Traian

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<v Speaker 2>birth Stories have done a really good book and Professor

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<v Speaker 2>Tong he's an MFM so MFM stands for Maternal Fetal

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<v Speaker 2>Medicine Specialist, so he's an amazing male ofbstitution down in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him and he's just written a birth book

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so you can look him up. Great resources

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure your facts are accurate and give you

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<v Speaker 2>some idea of what's going to come in the next

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months, so one sort of a midw free

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<v Speaker 2>led style actually wrote a forward one of those, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Dr Tong's is really good because then you can

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<v Speaker 2>compare what you're reading online and social things to what

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<v Speaker 2>really is happening with your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cut through the noise, Cut through the noise.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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