Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mama Maya acknowledges
Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
Speaker 1: is recorded on.
Speaker 2: I am pregnanty.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Hallo Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and
Speaker 1: hopefully more manageable. I'm Grace Ruvey. I am pregnant for
Speaker 1: the first time, and although I haven't drunk any alcohol,
Speaker 1: I feel like I am hungover every day.
Speaker 2: That's got great. I'm Yana Pittman. I'm a former Olympian,
Speaker 2: I'm a mother of six small humans, and I'm a
Speaker 2: pistetric and Guyani registrar, which basically means I have the
Speaker 2: privilege of helping you both your babies.
Speaker 1: Each episode, Yana and I will be holding your hand
Speaker 1: week by week through the mysterious, perplexing and very new
Speaker 1: world that is the miracle of pregnant seed. Week five. So, Yana,
Speaker 1: how big is the baby at this point?
Speaker 2: Well, your embro is now the size of an orange seed. Oh,
Speaker 2: I just went to oranges have seeds exactly what I
Speaker 2: do know, but they have seedless oranges these days. But
Speaker 2: a nail head.
Speaker 1: It's all the heart button on Instagram? Okay, yes? Or
Speaker 1: an earings.
Speaker 2: That's something. It's small, still small, it's only about a
Speaker 2: millimeter in size, but it's doubling. It's doubling quickly.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, when you start to put those things next
Speaker 1: to each other, you do see the increase ex exactly.
Speaker 2: And I think it's important to say here when they
Speaker 2: do an ultrasand which I don't want you having, guys,
Speaker 2: yet's the way too early. They measure the size of
Speaker 2: the gestational sack. So I remember last week we said its
Speaker 2: two point five, but that's actually the sack size. The
Speaker 2: fetus is the little guy inside. It's now measurable, which
Speaker 2: last week you wouldn't have seen it. So when we
Speaker 2: say a millimeter, which is different from our last episode,
Speaker 2: we're now actually seeing hopefully what we call a curl,
Speaker 2: which is a little crown to rump, so head to
Speaker 2: bum length of your baby that will eventually grow bigger.
Speaker 1: And this is where they start to look like a
Speaker 1: dinosaur because their head is massive and they have a tail.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of it. So tell me what's going
Speaker 1: on in our bodies this week.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a crucial level, crucial stage, I should say,
Speaker 2: because we're laying down the foundations for future organs, So
Speaker 2: it's important. But your baby's neural tube is now continuing
Speaker 2: to close. It actually wonn't close till day twenty eight
Speaker 2: of pregnancy, sometimes one, but usually around twenty eight days.
Speaker 2: It's when your baby's primitive heart is starting to form,
Speaker 2: so it's not beating yet, very rarely. It doesn't beat
Speaker 2: to us about four ish millimeters three to four millimeters
Speaker 2: in sides, So a few more days to go, and
Speaker 2: little small limb buds are appearing, but you definitely can't
Speaker 2: see them yet.
Speaker 1: Limb buds.
Speaker 2: Limb buds so like little little pokey things that will
Speaker 2: eventually grow into their libing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when those like we spoke about the
Speaker 1: flow app. The flow app showed, Yeah, it looks like
Speaker 1: a little dinosaur and I guess maybe that it's limb
Speaker 1: buds where it looks like little dinosaur nubbins and a tail,
Speaker 1: remember of it.
Speaker 2: Its weird, like it does not look human.
Speaker 1: It looks like a lizard. The dinosaur reference. It does
Speaker 1: look like a lizard. But more importantly, what's happening with me?
Speaker 1: What what's happening to me? What's going on in our bodies?
Speaker 2: This week continued symptoms so Unfortunately, guys, you've got a
Speaker 2: rollercoaster for the next few weeks. That breast tenderness is
Speaker 2: getting worse, that nausea is increasing. Unfortunately, can't even see
Speaker 2: anything in your pregnant belly. It's as flat as a pancake,
Speaker 2: because it's the baby still well and truly sluggled in
Speaker 2: the uterus, which is not above your pure big bone.
Speaker 2: You might you're having more food aversions, you might be
Speaker 2: feeling unusual dreams and thoughts and feelings, lots of emotion.
Speaker 2: So we're in for a bit of a roller coaster
Speaker 2: for most women over the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where smell aversion kicked in for me
Speaker 1: in week five, which I thought was really I didn't
Speaker 1: expect it to happen this early, and I dry reached.
Speaker 1: I hadn't vomited yet. We'll get to that, but it
Speaker 1: was just a very intense sensory experience. That's right. A
Speaker 1: couple of things.
Speaker 2: The first one is your hormones of pregnancy just change
Speaker 2: the way things happen. The next thing is the fact
Speaker 2: that you probably are starting to experience some nauseousness, so
Speaker 2: you're just more triggered by smells. But why does that
Speaker 2: happen largely because you're already would you believe having an
Speaker 2: increase in your blood volume, so your body will buy
Speaker 2: the end of pregnancy almost double, So it's fifty percent
Speaker 2: more blood volume at this point you're already starting, which
Speaker 2: means you're getting more blood flowter than the olfactory, which
Speaker 2: is the medical way of saying that the nerves in
Speaker 2: your nose that all start sensing things. So there's lots happening.
Speaker 2: And nausea is also a big part of it, because
Speaker 2: if you're feeling sick, you're just not going to enjoy food.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that I should start doing? What's a
Speaker 1: to do list for this week?
Speaker 2: Oh? My goodness. So we talked about it a little
Speaker 2: bit in first episode around ensuring your soroology is done.
Speaker 2: It's now getting more important because you're confidently pregnant. We
Speaker 2: need to make sure you know about that blood group
Speaker 2: because we don't want to miss the boat. If you
Speaker 2: need some anti d start again looking at booking that
Speaker 2: ultrasound some of the more. I'm sorry for those sonography
Speaker 2: places that don't specialize in women's health, but I always
Speaker 2: think if you can afford it now, not everyone can
Speaker 2: go to one of the specialized women's centers. Okay, just
Speaker 2: because they are that's what they do for a living.
Speaker 2: They do it all day, every day, and so then
Speaker 2: it's time to book it in because they can book
Speaker 2: out quickly. So book your ultrasound for around the seven
Speaker 2: week mark, so we want to confidently be able to
Speaker 2: see a baby with a heartbeat. That's probably the highest
Speaker 2: one on your list this week is check you've done
Speaker 2: your blood tests and make sure that you're booked your ultrasound.
Speaker 1: But at this point all of our care is pretty
Speaker 1: much through our GP, and there's not everything else.
Speaker 2: And yes, through GP, but again plan because if you
Speaker 2: want that GRIP practice or or even some obstricians do book.
Speaker 1: Out fairly early. Some people might be getting excited and
Speaker 1: wanting to purchase things. Is it too early to purchase
Speaker 1: things because we don't know if it's going to be
Speaker 1: a chemical pregnancy, a miscarriage, or any of these outcomes
Speaker 1: that are on fortunately quite common. What would you suggest
Speaker 1: when people say, is it too early to just buy something?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I have to be honest, I went and bought a
Speaker 2: little little, you know, outfit, But I think for me
Speaker 2: it was because I wanted to make it real. The
Speaker 2: first time I was pregnant, I also bought one the
Speaker 2: time I had my first miscarriage as well, and that
Speaker 2: was hard, but it was also a lovely reminder in
Speaker 2: the future of you know that baby did exist. They're
Speaker 2: part of that whole world and your whole life experience,
Speaker 2: which I think really touches on an important point that
Speaker 2: for generations it's been taboo to talk about pregnancy before
Speaker 2: twelve weeks. You know, you don't want to tell anyone
Speaker 2: because if you have a miscarriage, And I've always really
Speaker 2: challenged that because I think why this is the time
Speaker 2: when you actually need the support most. You know, you
Speaker 2: may not want to tell your boss at work, perhaps
Speaker 2: because you.
Speaker 1: Work, yeah, but maybe.
Speaker 2: A close colleague at work, because if you have a
Speaker 2: miscarriage and you're a little bit down in the dumps
Speaker 2: at work, you need someone who's going to go. I
Speaker 2: can understand why she needs a tissue right now while
Speaker 2: she's running off to the bathroom for a break, rather
Speaker 2: than gosh.
Speaker 1: She's in a bad mood.
Speaker 2: So I know it's an individual conversation, but it's one
Speaker 2: that I want you to think about because I think
Speaker 2: in pregnancy is probably the time you need someone most
Speaker 2: to be able to hold your hand andrew that having done,
Speaker 2: I've had four miscarriages unfortunately, and having to walk through
Speaker 2: that space is hard. Doesn't matter what gestation you are,
Speaker 2: and so having that support is I think is really
Speaker 2: really important.
Speaker 1: It does show you how like better we are at
Speaker 1: talking about things like grief. And I wonder if that's
Speaker 1: why it was don't talk about it but before twelve weeks,
Speaker 1: because the pain of it is that don't see, don't talk.
Speaker 1: That's what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole here's a couple of concrete. Suck it up, princess.
Speaker 2: It's part of life, and it is part of life.
Speaker 2: You know. We know that twenty to twenty five percent
Speaker 2: of pregnancies will lend a miscarriage.
Speaker 1: But it hurts, Yeah, really hurts. So in terms of
Speaker 1: our toolkit for this week, my only advice for this talk,
Speaker 1: it is to have dry crackers on you. I like it.
Speaker 1: It is five weeks, it is early, but just to
Speaker 1: have something when if something is brought to you on
Speaker 1: a plate and potentially the makeup of it is a
Speaker 1: bit too complex for what you need right now, Yes,
Speaker 1: to just to have something. It's like strip you back
Speaker 1: to childhood basics of food, dry cracker perposta.
Speaker 2: Can't beat that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my advice. Do you have anything for the
Speaker 1: talk kit this week?
Speaker 2: Start to be careful with comparisons, so just having that
Speaker 2: conversation around. You're going to have a different pregnancy everybody else,
Speaker 2: So you know, if you're starting to talk about mums
Speaker 2: and looking up things on internet, just be a little
Speaker 2: careful on who you decide to follow and who you
Speaker 2: look at because it is a different journey for everyone.
Speaker 1: That's great advice. What about like pelvic floor physios or
Speaker 1: great or people like yourself, people who are obstitutions or
Speaker 1: training to be obstetricians. Should you start following them because
Speaker 1: the facts are going to be more medical.
Speaker 2: Yes, And there's a couple of good books this Traian
Speaker 2: birth Stories have done a really good book and Professor
Speaker 2: Tong he's an MFM so MFM stands for Maternal Fetal
Speaker 2: Medicine Specialist, so he's an amazing male ofbstitution down in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: I love him and he's just written a birth book
Speaker 2: as well, so you can look him up. Great resources
Speaker 2: to make sure your facts are accurate and give you
Speaker 2: some idea of what's going to come in the next
Speaker 2: couple of months, so one sort of a midw free
Speaker 2: led style actually wrote a forward one of those, and
Speaker 2: then Dr Tong's is really good because then you can
Speaker 2: compare what you're reading online and social things to what
Speaker 2: really is happening with your body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cut through the noise, Cut through the noise.
Speaker 2: Love it.
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