1 00:00:11,149 --> 00:00:15,989 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mama Maya acknowledges 2 00:00:16,029 --> 00:00:19,229 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:19,309 --> 00:00:20,069 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,749 --> 00:00:23,749 Speaker 2: I am pregnanty. 5 00:00:27,069 --> 00:00:30,429 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hallo Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and 6 00:00:30,589 --> 00:00:33,709 Speaker 1: hopefully more manageable. I'm Grace Ruvey. I am pregnant for 7 00:00:33,749 --> 00:00:36,029 Speaker 1: the first time, and although I haven't drunk any alcohol, 8 00:00:36,149 --> 00:00:38,149 Speaker 1: I feel like I am hungover every day. 9 00:00:38,949 --> 00:00:41,749 Speaker 2: That's got great. I'm Yana Pittman. I'm a former Olympian, 10 00:00:41,789 --> 00:00:43,709 Speaker 2: I'm a mother of six small humans, and I'm a 11 00:00:43,709 --> 00:00:46,069 Speaker 2: pistetric and Guyani registrar, which basically means I have the 12 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:47,709 Speaker 2: privilege of helping you both your babies. 13 00:00:47,909 --> 00:00:50,389 Speaker 1: Each episode, Yana and I will be holding your hand 14 00:00:50,469 --> 00:00:53,469 Speaker 1: week by week through the mysterious, perplexing and very new 15 00:00:53,469 --> 00:01:00,469 Speaker 1: world that is the miracle of pregnant seed. Week five. So, Yana, 16 00:01:00,509 --> 00:01:02,269 Speaker 1: how big is the baby at this point? 17 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:05,429 Speaker 2: Well, your embro is now the size of an orange seed. Oh, 18 00:01:05,429 --> 00:01:07,709 Speaker 2: I just went to oranges have seeds exactly what I 19 00:01:07,709 --> 00:01:09,509 Speaker 2: do know, but they have seedless oranges these days. But 20 00:01:10,149 --> 00:01:10,869 Speaker 2: a nail head. 21 00:01:11,069 --> 00:01:14,469 Speaker 1: It's all the heart button on Instagram? Okay, yes? Or 22 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:14,949 Speaker 1: an earings. 23 00:01:14,949 --> 00:01:17,949 Speaker 2: That's something. It's small, still small, it's only about a 24 00:01:17,989 --> 00:01:20,669 Speaker 2: millimeter in size, but it's doubling. It's doubling quickly. 25 00:01:20,909 --> 00:01:23,309 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, when you start to put those things next 26 00:01:23,309 --> 00:01:25,629 Speaker 1: to each other, you do see the increase ex exactly. 27 00:01:25,669 --> 00:01:27,109 Speaker 2: And I think it's important to say here when they 28 00:01:27,189 --> 00:01:28,869 Speaker 2: do an ultrasand which I don't want you having, guys, 29 00:01:28,949 --> 00:01:31,229 Speaker 2: yet's the way too early. They measure the size of 30 00:01:31,269 --> 00:01:33,109 Speaker 2: the gestational sack. So I remember last week we said its 31 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:35,509 Speaker 2: two point five, but that's actually the sack size. The 32 00:01:35,549 --> 00:01:38,149 Speaker 2: fetus is the little guy inside. It's now measurable, which 33 00:01:38,229 --> 00:01:39,549 Speaker 2: last week you wouldn't have seen it. So when we 34 00:01:39,549 --> 00:01:42,669 Speaker 2: say a millimeter, which is different from our last episode, 35 00:01:42,749 --> 00:01:46,069 Speaker 2: we're now actually seeing hopefully what we call a curl, 36 00:01:46,109 --> 00:01:48,549 Speaker 2: which is a little crown to rump, so head to 37 00:01:48,629 --> 00:01:51,069 Speaker 2: bum length of your baby that will eventually grow bigger. 38 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:52,469 Speaker 1: And this is where they start to look like a 39 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:54,989 Speaker 1: dinosaur because their head is massive and they have a tail. 40 00:01:55,069 --> 00:01:57,749 Speaker 1: But that's kind of it. So tell me what's going 41 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:59,109 Speaker 1: on in our bodies this week. 42 00:01:59,229 --> 00:02:01,349 Speaker 2: Well, it's a crucial level, crucial stage, I should say, 43 00:02:01,389 --> 00:02:03,669 Speaker 2: because we're laying down the foundations for future organs, So 44 00:02:03,709 --> 00:02:06,629 Speaker 2: it's important. But your baby's neural tube is now continuing 45 00:02:06,629 --> 00:02:08,749 Speaker 2: to close. It actually wonn't close till day twenty eight 46 00:02:08,829 --> 00:02:11,789 Speaker 2: of pregnancy, sometimes one, but usually around twenty eight days. 47 00:02:11,989 --> 00:02:14,549 Speaker 2: It's when your baby's primitive heart is starting to form, 48 00:02:14,669 --> 00:02:17,349 Speaker 2: so it's not beating yet, very rarely. It doesn't beat 49 00:02:17,349 --> 00:02:19,669 Speaker 2: to us about four ish millimeters three to four millimeters 50 00:02:19,669 --> 00:02:21,629 Speaker 2: in sides, So a few more days to go, and 51 00:02:21,669 --> 00:02:24,029 Speaker 2: little small limb buds are appearing, but you definitely can't 52 00:02:24,069 --> 00:02:24,669 Speaker 2: see them yet. 53 00:02:24,989 --> 00:02:25,949 Speaker 1: Limb buds. 54 00:02:26,109 --> 00:02:28,189 Speaker 2: Limb buds so like little little pokey things that will 55 00:02:28,189 --> 00:02:29,349 Speaker 2: eventually grow into their libing. 56 00:02:29,469 --> 00:02:31,709 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when those like we spoke about the 57 00:02:31,709 --> 00:02:34,029 Speaker 1: flow app. The flow app showed, Yeah, it looks like 58 00:02:34,029 --> 00:02:36,509 Speaker 1: a little dinosaur and I guess maybe that it's limb 59 00:02:36,549 --> 00:02:42,109 Speaker 1: buds where it looks like little dinosaur nubbins and a tail, 60 00:02:42,189 --> 00:02:42,629 Speaker 1: remember of it. 61 00:02:42,669 --> 00:02:44,309 Speaker 2: Its weird, like it does not look human. 62 00:02:44,349 --> 00:02:47,229 Speaker 1: It looks like a lizard. The dinosaur reference. It does 63 00:02:47,269 --> 00:02:50,029 Speaker 1: look like a lizard. But more importantly, what's happening with me? 64 00:02:50,509 --> 00:02:54,909 Speaker 1: What what's happening to me? What's going on in our bodies? 65 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:57,869 Speaker 2: This week continued symptoms so Unfortunately, guys, you've got a 66 00:02:58,109 --> 00:03:00,309 Speaker 2: rollercoaster for the next few weeks. That breast tenderness is 67 00:03:00,309 --> 00:03:03,269 Speaker 2: getting worse, that nausea is increasing. Unfortunately, can't even see 68 00:03:03,309 --> 00:03:05,389 Speaker 2: anything in your pregnant belly. It's as flat as a pancake, 69 00:03:05,429 --> 00:03:07,389 Speaker 2: because it's the baby still well and truly sluggled in 70 00:03:07,389 --> 00:03:09,429 Speaker 2: the uterus, which is not above your pure big bone. 71 00:03:09,749 --> 00:03:11,749 Speaker 2: You might you're having more food aversions, you might be 72 00:03:11,789 --> 00:03:15,189 Speaker 2: feeling unusual dreams and thoughts and feelings, lots of emotion. 73 00:03:15,469 --> 00:03:17,269 Speaker 2: So we're in for a bit of a roller coaster 74 00:03:17,389 --> 00:03:19,069 Speaker 2: for most women over the next few weeks. 75 00:03:19,149 --> 00:03:22,069 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where smell aversion kicked in for me 76 00:03:22,509 --> 00:03:24,989 Speaker 1: in week five, which I thought was really I didn't 77 00:03:24,989 --> 00:03:26,909 Speaker 1: expect it to happen this early, and I dry reached. 78 00:03:26,909 --> 00:03:30,389 Speaker 1: I hadn't vomited yet. We'll get to that, but it 79 00:03:30,429 --> 00:03:33,909 Speaker 1: was just a very intense sensory experience. That's right. A 80 00:03:33,909 --> 00:03:34,469 Speaker 1: couple of things. 81 00:03:34,549 --> 00:03:37,549 Speaker 2: The first one is your hormones of pregnancy just change 82 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:39,789 Speaker 2: the way things happen. The next thing is the fact 83 00:03:39,789 --> 00:03:42,429 Speaker 2: that you probably are starting to experience some nauseousness, so 84 00:03:42,669 --> 00:03:44,789 Speaker 2: you're just more triggered by smells. But why does that 85 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:47,389 Speaker 2: happen largely because you're already would you believe having an 86 00:03:47,429 --> 00:03:49,509 Speaker 2: increase in your blood volume, so your body will buy 87 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:51,669 Speaker 2: the end of pregnancy almost double, So it's fifty percent 88 00:03:51,669 --> 00:03:53,589 Speaker 2: more blood volume at this point you're already starting, which 89 00:03:53,629 --> 00:03:56,109 Speaker 2: means you're getting more blood flowter than the olfactory, which 90 00:03:56,189 --> 00:03:58,149 Speaker 2: is the medical way of saying that the nerves in 91 00:03:58,189 --> 00:04:01,149 Speaker 2: your nose that all start sensing things. So there's lots happening. 92 00:04:01,189 --> 00:04:02,869 Speaker 2: And nausea is also a big part of it, because 93 00:04:02,869 --> 00:04:04,789 Speaker 2: if you're feeling sick, you're just not going to enjoy food. 94 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:06,869 Speaker 1: Is there anything that I should start doing? What's a 95 00:04:06,909 --> 00:04:07,949 Speaker 1: to do list for this week? 96 00:04:08,029 --> 00:04:09,629 Speaker 2: Oh? My goodness. So we talked about it a little 97 00:04:09,629 --> 00:04:12,149 Speaker 2: bit in first episode around ensuring your soroology is done. 98 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:14,669 Speaker 2: It's now getting more important because you're confidently pregnant. We 99 00:04:14,709 --> 00:04:16,269 Speaker 2: need to make sure you know about that blood group 100 00:04:16,269 --> 00:04:17,949 Speaker 2: because we don't want to miss the boat. If you 101 00:04:18,029 --> 00:04:21,549 Speaker 2: need some anti d start again looking at booking that 102 00:04:21,629 --> 00:04:24,709 Speaker 2: ultrasound some of the more. I'm sorry for those sonography 103 00:04:24,749 --> 00:04:26,669 Speaker 2: places that don't specialize in women's health, but I always 104 00:04:26,669 --> 00:04:28,549 Speaker 2: think if you can afford it now, not everyone can 105 00:04:28,869 --> 00:04:31,509 Speaker 2: go to one of the specialized women's centers. Okay, just 106 00:04:31,549 --> 00:04:32,909 Speaker 2: because they are that's what they do for a living. 107 00:04:32,949 --> 00:04:35,229 Speaker 2: They do it all day, every day, and so then 108 00:04:35,309 --> 00:04:36,669 Speaker 2: it's time to book it in because they can book 109 00:04:36,669 --> 00:04:39,469 Speaker 2: out quickly. So book your ultrasound for around the seven 110 00:04:39,549 --> 00:04:41,269 Speaker 2: week mark, so we want to confidently be able to 111 00:04:41,269 --> 00:04:43,789 Speaker 2: see a baby with a heartbeat. That's probably the highest 112 00:04:43,789 --> 00:04:45,029 Speaker 2: one on your list this week is check you've done 113 00:04:45,029 --> 00:04:47,909 Speaker 2: your blood tests and make sure that you're booked your ultrasound. 114 00:04:47,989 --> 00:04:49,669 Speaker 1: But at this point all of our care is pretty 115 00:04:49,709 --> 00:04:51,469 Speaker 1: much through our GP, and there's not everything else. 116 00:04:51,869 --> 00:04:55,109 Speaker 2: And yes, through GP, but again plan because if you 117 00:04:55,109 --> 00:04:57,989 Speaker 2: want that GRIP practice or or even some obstricians do book. 118 00:04:57,789 --> 00:05:00,669 Speaker 1: Out fairly early. Some people might be getting excited and 119 00:05:00,709 --> 00:05:03,549 Speaker 1: wanting to purchase things. Is it too early to purchase 120 00:05:03,589 --> 00:05:05,829 Speaker 1: things because we don't know if it's going to be 121 00:05:06,149 --> 00:05:09,549 Speaker 1: a chemical pregnancy, a miscarriage, or any of these outcomes 122 00:05:09,549 --> 00:05:12,749 Speaker 1: that are on fortunately quite common. What would you suggest 123 00:05:12,789 --> 00:05:14,989 Speaker 1: when people say, is it too early to just buy something? 124 00:05:15,309 --> 00:05:15,669 Speaker 1: I did. 125 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:16,909 Speaker 2: I have to be honest, I went and bought a 126 00:05:16,949 --> 00:05:19,389 Speaker 2: little little, you know, outfit, But I think for me 127 00:05:19,429 --> 00:05:20,869 Speaker 2: it was because I wanted to make it real. The 128 00:05:20,869 --> 00:05:22,789 Speaker 2: first time I was pregnant, I also bought one the 129 00:05:22,829 --> 00:05:24,709 Speaker 2: time I had my first miscarriage as well, and that 130 00:05:24,829 --> 00:05:26,589 Speaker 2: was hard, but it was also a lovely reminder in 131 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:28,589 Speaker 2: the future of you know that baby did exist. They're 132 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:30,629 Speaker 2: part of that whole world and your whole life experience, 133 00:05:30,869 --> 00:05:32,989 Speaker 2: which I think really touches on an important point that 134 00:05:33,629 --> 00:05:36,389 Speaker 2: for generations it's been taboo to talk about pregnancy before 135 00:05:36,389 --> 00:05:37,989 Speaker 2: twelve weeks. You know, you don't want to tell anyone 136 00:05:37,989 --> 00:05:40,109 Speaker 2: because if you have a miscarriage, And I've always really 137 00:05:40,189 --> 00:05:42,349 Speaker 2: challenged that because I think why this is the time 138 00:05:42,349 --> 00:05:45,069 Speaker 2: when you actually need the support most. You know, you 139 00:05:45,109 --> 00:05:46,549 Speaker 2: may not want to tell your boss at work, perhaps 140 00:05:46,549 --> 00:05:46,869 Speaker 2: because you. 141 00:05:48,429 --> 00:05:50,389 Speaker 1: Work, yeah, but maybe. 142 00:05:50,229 --> 00:05:52,189 Speaker 2: A close colleague at work, because if you have a 143 00:05:52,229 --> 00:05:53,949 Speaker 2: miscarriage and you're a little bit down in the dumps 144 00:05:53,949 --> 00:05:55,469 Speaker 2: at work, you need someone who's going to go. I 145 00:05:55,469 --> 00:05:57,189 Speaker 2: can understand why she needs a tissue right now while 146 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:58,989 Speaker 2: she's running off to the bathroom for a break, rather 147 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:59,589 Speaker 2: than gosh. 148 00:05:59,389 --> 00:06:00,189 Speaker 1: She's in a bad mood. 149 00:06:00,949 --> 00:06:03,629 Speaker 2: So I know it's an individual conversation, but it's one 150 00:06:03,629 --> 00:06:06,029 Speaker 2: that I want you to think about because I think 151 00:06:06,309 --> 00:06:08,789 Speaker 2: in pregnancy is probably the time you need someone most 152 00:06:09,349 --> 00:06:11,069 Speaker 2: to be able to hold your hand andrew that having done, 153 00:06:11,069 --> 00:06:13,229 Speaker 2: I've had four miscarriages unfortunately, and having to walk through 154 00:06:13,229 --> 00:06:15,389 Speaker 2: that space is hard. Doesn't matter what gestation you are, 155 00:06:15,949 --> 00:06:18,029 Speaker 2: and so having that support is I think is really 156 00:06:18,069 --> 00:06:18,749 Speaker 2: really important. 157 00:06:18,989 --> 00:06:20,629 Speaker 1: It does show you how like better we are at 158 00:06:20,669 --> 00:06:22,669 Speaker 1: talking about things like grief. And I wonder if that's 159 00:06:22,709 --> 00:06:24,829 Speaker 1: why it was don't talk about it but before twelve weeks, 160 00:06:24,869 --> 00:06:28,589 Speaker 1: because the pain of it is that don't see, don't talk. 161 00:06:28,909 --> 00:06:29,629 Speaker 1: That's what it was. 162 00:06:30,149 --> 00:06:32,789 Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole here's a couple of concrete. Suck it up, princess. 163 00:06:32,829 --> 00:06:34,629 Speaker 2: It's part of life, and it is part of life. 164 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:36,189 Speaker 2: You know. We know that twenty to twenty five percent 165 00:06:36,189 --> 00:06:37,829 Speaker 2: of pregnancies will lend a miscarriage. 166 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:43,109 Speaker 1: But it hurts, Yeah, really hurts. So in terms of 167 00:06:43,109 --> 00:06:45,949 Speaker 1: our toolkit for this week, my only advice for this talk, 168 00:06:45,989 --> 00:06:48,309 Speaker 1: it is to have dry crackers on you. I like it. 169 00:06:48,989 --> 00:06:51,229 Speaker 1: It is five weeks, it is early, but just to 170 00:06:51,469 --> 00:06:54,909 Speaker 1: have something when if something is brought to you on 171 00:06:54,949 --> 00:06:57,389 Speaker 1: a plate and potentially the makeup of it is a 172 00:06:57,389 --> 00:06:59,829 Speaker 1: bit too complex for what you need right now, Yes, 173 00:06:59,909 --> 00:07:02,229 Speaker 1: to just to have something. It's like strip you back 174 00:07:02,229 --> 00:07:06,229 Speaker 1: to childhood basics of food, dry cracker perposta. 175 00:07:06,389 --> 00:07:07,069 Speaker 2: Can't beat that one. 176 00:07:07,149 --> 00:07:08,829 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my advice. Do you have anything for the 177 00:07:08,909 --> 00:07:09,589 Speaker 1: talk kit this week? 178 00:07:09,669 --> 00:07:12,269 Speaker 2: Start to be careful with comparisons, so just having that 179 00:07:12,309 --> 00:07:16,189 Speaker 2: conversation around. You're going to have a different pregnancy everybody else, 180 00:07:16,349 --> 00:07:18,709 Speaker 2: So you know, if you're starting to talk about mums 181 00:07:18,709 --> 00:07:20,349 Speaker 2: and looking up things on internet, just be a little 182 00:07:20,349 --> 00:07:22,069 Speaker 2: careful on who you decide to follow and who you 183 00:07:22,069 --> 00:07:24,309 Speaker 2: look at because it is a different journey for everyone. 184 00:07:24,349 --> 00:07:28,749 Speaker 1: That's great advice. What about like pelvic floor physios or 185 00:07:28,909 --> 00:07:32,029 Speaker 1: great or people like yourself, people who are obstitutions or 186 00:07:32,069 --> 00:07:34,749 Speaker 1: training to be obstetricians. Should you start following them because 187 00:07:34,789 --> 00:07:36,189 Speaker 1: the facts are going to be more medical. 188 00:07:36,509 --> 00:07:38,509 Speaker 2: Yes, And there's a couple of good books this Traian 189 00:07:38,549 --> 00:07:40,629 Speaker 2: birth Stories have done a really good book and Professor 190 00:07:40,669 --> 00:07:43,349 Speaker 2: Tong he's an MFM so MFM stands for Maternal Fetal 191 00:07:43,389 --> 00:07:46,709 Speaker 2: Medicine Specialist, so he's an amazing male ofbstitution down in Melbourne. 192 00:07:46,709 --> 00:07:48,229 Speaker 2: I love him and he's just written a birth book 193 00:07:48,269 --> 00:07:50,989 Speaker 2: as well, so you can look him up. Great resources 194 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:53,589 Speaker 2: to make sure your facts are accurate and give you 195 00:07:53,629 --> 00:07:55,109 Speaker 2: some idea of what's going to come in the next 196 00:07:55,149 --> 00:07:56,669 Speaker 2: couple of months, so one sort of a midw free 197 00:07:56,709 --> 00:07:58,549 Speaker 2: led style actually wrote a forward one of those, and 198 00:07:58,549 --> 00:08:01,429 Speaker 2: then Dr Tong's is really good because then you can 199 00:08:01,429 --> 00:08:04,349 Speaker 2: compare what you're reading online and social things to what 200 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:05,909 Speaker 2: really is happening with your body. 201 00:08:06,029 --> 00:08:07,749 Speaker 1: Yeah, cut through the noise, Cut through the noise. 202 00:08:07,829 --> 00:08:08,109 Speaker 2: Love it. 203 00:08:10,149 --> 00:08:12,229 Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this episode of Hello Bump. We 204 00:08:12,349 --> 00:08:15,389 Speaker 1: have so many episodes of this series filled with tips 205 00:08:15,389 --> 00:08:18,229 Speaker 1: and stories from women and experts who've been through it 206 00:08:18,269 --> 00:08:18,869 Speaker 1: all before. 207 00:08:19,069 --> 00:08:20,909 Speaker 2: You can go back and listen to everything else Hello 208 00:08:20,909 --> 00:08:22,669 Speaker 2: Bump related in this podcast feed. 209 00:08:22,589 --> 00:08:24,389 Speaker 1: And while you're there, we'd love if you could give 210 00:08:24,429 --> 00:08:26,149 Speaker 1: us a five star rating and maybe leave us a 211 00:08:26,149 --> 00:08:28,509 Speaker 1: review or even share this episode with a friend. 212 00:08:28,669 --> 00:08:31,829 Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Courtney Ammenhauser with audio production 213 00:08:31,909 --> 00:08:33,589 Speaker 2: by Tom Lyon We'll catch you next time. 214 00:08:33,669 --> 00:08:36,549 Speaker 1: This episode of Hello Bump was made in partnership with Huggies. 215 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:40,589 Speaker 1: Bye Bye,