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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Australia and the world are watching on as Israel pushes

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Speaker 2: ahead with plans to take control of southern Lebanon. For

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Speaker 2: the very latest, we'll be crossing to a reporter on

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Speaker 2: the ground next. Plus, we've only just called down from

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Speaker 2: the steaming fourth season of Bridgeton, but the new romance

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Speaker 2: has been revealed for season five and it's all about

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Speaker 2: the ladies. So, dear listener, are you prepared for what

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Speaker 2: comes next? It's the Quikie But Thursday March twenty six,

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Speaker 2: I'm Taborstrano and here's Claire Murphy with the latest news headlines.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor for being warned that the rise in fuel

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Speaker 1: prices due to the war in Iran will eventually hit

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Speaker 1: supermarket shelves as supply chains factor in the higher cost

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Speaker 1: of delivery. Every food item in Australia, from fresh fruit

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Speaker 1: and vegetables through to imported processed foods, rely on diesel

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Speaker 1: powered vehicles to move through the supply chain, with fresh

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Speaker 1: produce doubly impacted as they may use diesel powered machinery

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Speaker 1: in production like tractors and harvesters. Experts say the price

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Speaker 1: increases won't be a sharp spike like petrol scene, but

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Speaker 1: more a slow rise. At least one hundred and seven

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Speaker 1: petrol stations across New South Wales alone have run out

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Speaker 1: of diesel completely, with forty of those saying they have

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Speaker 1: no fuel at all. US Today's Show co host Savannah

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Speaker 1: Guthrie has given her first interview since the disappearance of

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Speaker 1: her elderly mother back in February. The broadcaster sat down

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Speaker 1: with her colleague hot To Codby for the discussion about

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Speaker 1: the events surrounding the alleged kidnapping of eighty four year

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Speaker 1: old Nancy Guthrie in the early hours of February first,

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Speaker 1: saying she is in agony with not knowing what has

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Speaker 1: happened to her mother.

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Speaker 3: We are in argony. It is unbearable and to think

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Speaker 3: of what she went through. Are weak up every night,

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the night, every night, and in

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Speaker 1: The full interview will air in two parts in the

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Speaker 1: US today and tomorrow. Open Ai says they're shutting down Sora,

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Speaker 1: the social media app they created to allow users to

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Speaker 1: chat GPT, released Saw back in September. In an attempt

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Speaker 1: users used it to create deep fake videos of public

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Speaker 1: figures and non consensual images of others. OpenAI was forced

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Speaker 1: fake doctor Martin Luther King Junior making crude and racist comments,

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Speaker 1: the late rapper Tupac Shakur stealing from a supermarket, and

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Speaker 1: the beloved US children's TV host mister Rogers holding a gun.

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Speaker 1: Zilda Williams, a daughter of the late actor Robin Williams,

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Speaker 1: released a statement begging people to stop making tribute videos

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Speaker 1: using her father's likeness. OpenAI said in a brief social

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Speaker 1: to preserve what users had had already created. Iran is

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Speaker 1: reportedly still reviewing the fifteen point US peace plan handed

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Speaker 1: minister and was still awaiting a formal reply. Oil prices

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Speaker 1: With investors hoping for an end to the war that's

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Speaker 1: has warned Israel against occupying parts of Lebanon, urging it

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Speaker 1: want to see occupation of southern Lebanon by Israel. Lebanon

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Speaker 1: was brought into the US Israeli war with Iran after

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Speaker 1: Hesbelah An Iranian back terror group based in Lebanon fired

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Speaker 1: Supreme leader. Channel seven senior reporter Chris Reason is in Lebanon. Chris,

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Speaker 1: can you explain to us the controversial move by Israel

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Speaker 4: Well, for Israel, they say that they are sick and

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Speaker 4: this buffer zone, the security zone. It's about thirty kilometers BG.

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Speaker 4: He goes all the way up to a critical river

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Speaker 1: How many people live in that zone though, and surely

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Speaker 4: To occupy exactly. I mean, I've been dumped down there

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Speaker 4: They've heeded the constant barage of messages from Israel saying

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Speaker 4: that they should get out or they will be bombed,

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Speaker 4: they will be targeted, they will be moved, and obviously

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Speaker 4: that generates a lot of fear in the general population,

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Speaker 4: and hundreds of thousands of them have moved, and you've

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Speaker 4: But we're talking about hundreds of thousands in that thirty

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Speaker 4: it wants to flatten the area. And they've made statements

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Speaker 4: And they feel israelis field the only way to make

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Speaker 4: it safe is to flatten it. But we're talking about

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Speaker 4: the families of as I say, hundreds of thousands of people.

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Speaker 4: Now Lebanon is in shock over this and outrage, and

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Speaker 4: they're furious. They're describing it as the next Gaza, referring

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Speaker 4: push Israeli soldiers back. It's not going to be easy

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Speaker 4: but when they put the troops on the ground and

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Speaker 4: they're up against the determined, fierce has Blah fighters, thousands

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Speaker 1: Well, that is a concern, isn't it, Chris, that even

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Speaker 1: if a peace deal is struck between the US, Israel,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody now denies that Israel has seen

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Speaker 4: as a threat for many, many years, decades, and has

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Speaker 4: Da as well in Lebanon has always been a target

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Speaker 4: for them, and they've seen these two war fronts sitting

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Speaker 4: there as an opportunity. Donald Trump comes along, gives them

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Speaker 4: have this window of opportunity. They're now nervous that that

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Speaker 4: Israel is working over time to do as much damage

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Speaker 4: as quickly as it can. It knows that with Lebanon

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Speaker 1: Just finally, Chrissy mentioned there the eighteen year occupation by

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Speaker 1: Bola came to be came into existence as a resistance

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Speaker 1: movement against that occupation. Could this actually create further resistance

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm seeing some evidence of that. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: a gesture a symbol of support for Iran and what

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Speaker 4: they were going through. Well, that was the green light

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Speaker 4: of Lebanes are absolutely furious that Hebbelad gave them the

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Speaker 4: civil force. If you like it, it's a it's a

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Speaker 4: political wing of the military win. The political wind has

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Speaker 4: done some extraordinary good in the community and it's popular

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Speaker 4: But they had this political faction as well that does

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Speaker 4: sections of Lebanon. It's been an extremely difficult time for

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, everything we know about Bridgeton Season five,

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Speaker 2: dearest gentle listener. Okay, that is enough of that. It

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Speaker 2: would seem the ton is once again a buzz, not

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Speaker 2: with scandal, though one always hopes, but with whispers of

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Speaker 2: a most tantalizing nature. Yes, you have heard correctly, The

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Speaker 2: ever enchanting world of Bridgeton prepares to unveil yet another chapter,

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Speaker 2: and naturally, speculation has become society's favorite pastime. Gather close.

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Speaker 2: If anything, it's only fueled a new kind of anticipation.

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Speaker 2: or interfere in the most intriguing affair today? Wherefore, enough

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see that messy Middlewest. She sacked, navigates, the.

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Speaker 5: Grief, it's all the action. Is there ready for us

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Speaker 2: Now you just listed off a whole bunch of words

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Speaker 2: Now that's the big diversion I guess from the bridges

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're all very curious unsurprised by Shonder, I

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Speaker 5: Exactly, so in no one's surprised by this, but I

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Speaker 5: I think they'd be silly not to. My prediction is

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it would be before season five,

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Speaker 2: if you need a full debrief on season four of Bridgeton.

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