1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,425 --> 00:00:21,025 Speaker 1: is recorded on Hey you bis, it's Lee here, and 4 00:00:21,065 --> 00:00:23,705 Speaker 1: it's Sunday, and I know that you all love the 5 00:00:23,745 --> 00:00:26,945 Speaker 1: Shop my Stash section of you Beauty, and we've kind 6 00:00:26,985 --> 00:00:29,505 Speaker 1: of got a similar version on Nothing to Wear. It's 7 00:00:29,505 --> 00:00:31,945 Speaker 1: all about how we just make the most out of 8 00:00:31,985 --> 00:00:34,585 Speaker 1: what we already own. So here's a wonderful episode in 9 00:00:34,585 --> 00:00:39,505 Speaker 1: your feed to help you do just that. Whoever said 10 00:00:39,545 --> 00:00:42,185 Speaker 1: orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed. 11 00:00:41,905 --> 00:00:44,305 Speaker 2: Laurels spraying groundbreaking. 12 00:00:44,545 --> 00:00:46,345 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. 13 00:00:46,385 --> 00:00:47,625 Speaker 3: You live for fashion. 14 00:00:49,065 --> 00:00:51,705 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 15 00:00:51,785 --> 00:00:54,985 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 16 00:00:55,025 --> 00:00:57,625 Speaker 1: Campbellon every week I talk to an expert who helps 17 00:00:57,705 --> 00:00:59,345 Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the 18 00:00:59,345 --> 00:01:01,785 Speaker 1: clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is 19 00:01:01,865 --> 00:01:05,945 Speaker 1: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Style and confidence 20 00:01:05,985 --> 00:01:09,545 Speaker 1: go hand in hand. But what if fashion feels intimidating, 21 00:01:09,825 --> 00:01:13,065 Speaker 1: out of reach, or just not you. Maybe you're stuck 22 00:01:13,065 --> 00:01:14,985 Speaker 1: in a rut I'm sure of what suits you, or 23 00:01:15,065 --> 00:01:17,625 Speaker 1: just don't have the budget all the time. Well, that's 24 00:01:17,665 --> 00:01:21,705 Speaker 1: where today's guest comes in. Donnie Allela calls himself the 25 00:01:21,785 --> 00:01:25,785 Speaker 1: confidence Creator, and for good reason. He has over seventeen 26 00:01:25,865 --> 00:01:28,185 Speaker 1: years in the industry and he style everyone from every 27 00:01:28,225 --> 00:01:31,705 Speaker 1: day Ossie's to huge Hollywood celebrities, and he's proven through 28 00:01:31,705 --> 00:01:34,905 Speaker 1: his work the great style isn't about trends or price tags. 29 00:01:34,985 --> 00:01:38,305 Speaker 1: It's about feeling amazing in what we wear. In this episode, 30 00:01:38,305 --> 00:01:41,185 Speaker 1: Donnie shares how to break through fashion fears, the styling 31 00:01:41,265 --> 00:01:44,745 Speaker 1: trick that instantly boosts confidence, and some wardrobe essentials that 32 00:01:44,785 --> 00:01:48,905 Speaker 1: give you a good outfit day. What he calls God Donnie, 33 00:01:49,065 --> 00:01:50,145 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 34 00:01:50,385 --> 00:01:51,665 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 35 00:01:51,825 --> 00:01:53,305 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's been so long and we haven't 36 00:01:53,345 --> 00:01:55,465 Speaker 1: had you on yet. Considering we're neighbors, we're friends, we 37 00:01:55,545 --> 00:01:57,225 Speaker 1: see each other around all the time. 38 00:01:57,385 --> 00:01:58,545 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. 39 00:01:58,545 --> 00:02:01,705 Speaker 1: Well, I ask first time guests two questions. Firstly, can 40 00:02:01,745 --> 00:02:03,945 Speaker 1: you describe your own style in three words? 41 00:02:04,505 --> 00:02:06,985 Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, I would say definitely tailored. Love a lot 42 00:02:07,025 --> 00:02:10,065 Speaker 3: of tailored pieces. I feel there's an element of polished 43 00:02:10,545 --> 00:02:15,105 Speaker 3: as well, and I feel confident my clothes are quite 44 00:02:15,145 --> 00:02:16,905 Speaker 3: confident so yeah, they're my three. 45 00:02:16,785 --> 00:02:18,865 Speaker 1: That works perfectly with what you do for a job. 46 00:02:18,905 --> 00:02:21,305 Speaker 1: But I agree you are always so tailored and polish, 47 00:02:21,345 --> 00:02:22,825 Speaker 1: Like have you ever warm tracksuit pants? 48 00:02:23,025 --> 00:02:26,705 Speaker 3: I absolutely do. But I guess I really believe the 49 00:02:26,745 --> 00:02:29,225 Speaker 3: power of clothes. And every day I'm helping people look 50 00:02:29,305 --> 00:02:31,145 Speaker 3: and feel good. Yeah, and I feel if I've got 51 00:02:31,145 --> 00:02:33,385 Speaker 3: to start that myself. Yeah, so that I can bring 52 00:02:33,385 --> 00:02:34,705 Speaker 3: that energy to my clients. 53 00:02:34,745 --> 00:02:37,305 Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, A theory that rings pretty true 54 00:02:37,305 --> 00:02:39,025 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. We've got a wardrobe full 55 00:02:39,025 --> 00:02:40,985 Speaker 1: of clothes, but there's a ten percent that we reach 56 00:02:41,025 --> 00:02:42,905 Speaker 1: for the most what's in you or ten percent? 57 00:02:43,465 --> 00:02:45,705 Speaker 3: I've probably got them on today. I mean a good 58 00:02:45,865 --> 00:02:48,945 Speaker 3: tailored suit and whether you wear them dressy or wear 59 00:02:48,985 --> 00:02:52,065 Speaker 3: it paired down with some sneakers. But I love tailoring, 60 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:53,945 Speaker 3: and I've got so many suits, so many blazers. 61 00:02:54,145 --> 00:02:55,305 Speaker 1: I was going to say, do you know how many 62 00:02:55,305 --> 00:02:56,025 Speaker 1: blazers you've got? 63 00:02:56,825 --> 00:02:59,745 Speaker 3: Must have at least other thirty. Yeah, And I love 64 00:02:59,745 --> 00:03:01,305 Speaker 3: them and I put them on and I feel polish, 65 00:03:01,345 --> 00:03:04,225 Speaker 3: I feel good finishes off my outfit. It's almost like 66 00:03:04,305 --> 00:03:05,865 Speaker 3: putting on my Superman cape. 67 00:03:06,025 --> 00:03:08,505 Speaker 1: Your amah, but in a confidence exactly. 68 00:03:08,585 --> 00:03:11,225 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just put it on. I am ready, I 69 00:03:11,265 --> 00:03:11,865 Speaker 3: feel good. 70 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:13,945 Speaker 1: I agree too with my blazers. I'm glad it's getting 71 00:03:13,945 --> 00:03:15,905 Speaker 1: cool on out because it's just been too humand for me. 72 00:03:15,945 --> 00:03:17,865 Speaker 1: I don't know how men do it. My poor husband 73 00:03:17,865 --> 00:03:19,225 Speaker 1: half the time I'm like, oh, your poor thing in 74 00:03:19,265 --> 00:03:21,905 Speaker 1: a shirt and or a blazer. But blazers for women 75 00:03:21,945 --> 00:03:24,505 Speaker 1: to just like add that layer of confidence. 76 00:03:24,025 --> 00:03:25,865 Speaker 3: A wardrobe essential definitely. 77 00:03:25,945 --> 00:03:29,025 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of confidence, I love in your Instagram bio 78 00:03:29,145 --> 00:03:32,785 Speaker 1: you say you're the confidence creator. So how do you 79 00:03:32,905 --> 00:03:35,865 Speaker 1: do that? How is style and confidence connected? 80 00:03:36,025 --> 00:03:38,465 Speaker 3: Obviously I've been a stylist for in over fifteen years, 81 00:03:38,465 --> 00:03:39,825 Speaker 3: but in the last kind of year or two have 82 00:03:39,905 --> 00:03:42,305 Speaker 3: kind of repositioned myself as a confidence creator because at 83 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:44,425 Speaker 3: the crux of what I do the stylist, it's making 84 00:03:44,425 --> 00:03:46,985 Speaker 3: people feel confident. And that is the power of clothes. 85 00:03:47,065 --> 00:03:49,025 Speaker 3: You put on a good outfit, you look good, you 86 00:03:49,065 --> 00:03:51,225 Speaker 3: feel happy, are you're nice to people around you, You nice 87 00:03:51,225 --> 00:03:54,145 Speaker 3: so your partner, you're more productive at work. The benefits 88 00:03:54,185 --> 00:03:56,545 Speaker 3: go on forever. So I just wanted to teach people 89 00:03:56,625 --> 00:03:59,585 Speaker 3: the power of clothes and confidence and help women shop. 90 00:03:59,825 --> 00:04:01,385 Speaker 3: I think we'll have a bit of a comfort zone 91 00:04:01,385 --> 00:04:03,465 Speaker 3: sometimes so helping people get out of their comfort zone 92 00:04:03,545 --> 00:04:05,385 Speaker 3: and look, there could be a celebrity or they could 93 00:04:05,385 --> 00:04:07,905 Speaker 3: be an every day Aussie mum and it's really done. 94 00:04:08,225 --> 00:04:10,545 Speaker 3: Wonders in terms of I think always a stigma with 95 00:04:10,545 --> 00:04:12,145 Speaker 3: stylus and it's like, oh, I can't see a stylus. 96 00:04:12,185 --> 00:04:14,465 Speaker 3: They're just for celebrities. Oh my god. Yeah, it's true. 97 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:16,065 Speaker 1: Fans in expensive and they're going to take me bad 98 00:04:16,065 --> 00:04:16,545 Speaker 1: of Chanelle. 99 00:04:16,785 --> 00:04:18,945 Speaker 3: It's like, no, I can literally take you to Target, 100 00:04:19,065 --> 00:04:22,425 Speaker 3: Big w Cuba, whatever your price range is. Of course 101 00:04:22,465 --> 00:04:24,305 Speaker 3: you want to shop with Guccie, let's go to Gucci, 102 00:04:24,385 --> 00:04:26,025 Speaker 3: but like, whatever your budget, let's go. 103 00:04:26,185 --> 00:04:28,905 Speaker 1: Yes. And the joy of the transformation that you help 104 00:04:28,945 --> 00:04:30,385 Speaker 1: with I can imagine that's so rewarding. 105 00:04:30,505 --> 00:04:34,145 Speaker 3: It is phenomenal, Like it's the power of having those 106 00:04:34,225 --> 00:04:36,505 Speaker 3: cores from clients. Afterwards, they're like, thank you so much. 107 00:04:36,625 --> 00:04:38,905 Speaker 3: Like I've I've had more jeans for twenty years and 108 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:41,465 Speaker 3: now wearing jeans. I get calls from husbands saying thank 109 00:04:41,505 --> 00:04:43,785 Speaker 3: you so much. My wife is so happy now things 110 00:04:43,785 --> 00:04:45,825 Speaker 3: in the bedroom are good again. I'm like, well, okay, 111 00:04:45,825 --> 00:04:46,545 Speaker 3: too much information. 112 00:04:46,705 --> 00:04:49,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, the confidence, does you know? It affects every part 113 00:04:49,025 --> 00:04:49,505 Speaker 1: of your life. 114 00:04:49,505 --> 00:04:51,865 Speaker 3: It is that flow on effect and you forget that 115 00:04:51,945 --> 00:04:53,505 Speaker 3: you know you can have that impact on people and 116 00:04:53,505 --> 00:04:54,745 Speaker 3: it's really really rewarded. 117 00:04:54,785 --> 00:04:56,225 Speaker 1: And look, there is kind of two parts to your 118 00:04:56,305 --> 00:04:58,545 Speaker 1: job because you do a lot of beautiful celebrity dressing 119 00:04:58,545 --> 00:05:00,625 Speaker 1: for events and stuff. But I think for the listeners here, 120 00:05:00,625 --> 00:05:04,505 Speaker 1: it's probably more the everyday Aussies that you're right need 121 00:05:04,585 --> 00:05:07,145 Speaker 1: help with the shopping because if they get the shopping right, 122 00:05:07,145 --> 00:05:08,905 Speaker 1: then they can put it together when they get home. 123 00:05:09,665 --> 00:05:12,425 Speaker 1: So what's the biggest blockers with confidence that we see 124 00:05:12,625 --> 00:05:14,825 Speaker 1: or you see when it comes to fashion or your clients. 125 00:05:15,265 --> 00:05:16,625 Speaker 3: I think a lot of us are stuck in a 126 00:05:16,625 --> 00:05:18,785 Speaker 3: bit of style rut and we go shopping, we come 127 00:05:18,825 --> 00:05:21,185 Speaker 3: home empty handed. I think, what the problem is. You're 128 00:05:21,185 --> 00:05:23,225 Speaker 3: going shopping and you're going to the same shopping center, 129 00:05:23,265 --> 00:05:24,905 Speaker 3: you're going to the same brand, You're going back to 130 00:05:24,905 --> 00:05:27,505 Speaker 3: the same color, the same shape. It's your comfort zone. 131 00:05:27,785 --> 00:05:29,545 Speaker 3: You're not getting the right thing. So for me, it's 132 00:05:29,545 --> 00:05:31,625 Speaker 3: saying stop, Okay, let's look at clothes in a whole 133 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:34,425 Speaker 3: new way. Let's start. Let's work out what you need. 134 00:05:34,585 --> 00:05:36,145 Speaker 3: Let's work at what are your best assets, what are 135 00:05:36,185 --> 00:05:38,865 Speaker 3: the parts of your body you love, Let's celebrate that. 136 00:05:39,025 --> 00:05:41,225 Speaker 3: Let's find clothes that make you feel good and celebrate 137 00:05:41,225 --> 00:05:43,225 Speaker 3: your best assets. Then we've got the parts of our 138 00:05:43,225 --> 00:05:45,225 Speaker 3: body we're not as confident with. It's like, all right, 139 00:05:45,225 --> 00:05:46,945 Speaker 3: here are some styling tips and tricks that we're going 140 00:05:47,025 --> 00:05:49,425 Speaker 3: to use to make you feel more confident about that. 141 00:05:49,825 --> 00:05:52,385 Speaker 3: And it's just helping people get out of that shopping rut. 142 00:05:52,465 --> 00:05:54,225 Speaker 3: And when they go shopping, they'll see shopps in a 143 00:05:54,225 --> 00:05:56,025 Speaker 3: whole new way. They'll go to shops they haven't been to. 144 00:05:56,345 --> 00:05:58,665 Speaker 3: I think when you get into maybe your forties, your fifties, 145 00:05:58,865 --> 00:06:00,905 Speaker 3: you kind of tell yourself you can't shop in particular 146 00:06:00,945 --> 00:06:03,505 Speaker 3: shops yep, And you're making shopping hard because as soon 147 00:06:03,505 --> 00:06:04,945 Speaker 3: as you get to that west Field you already said, well, 148 00:06:04,945 --> 00:06:05,625 Speaker 3: I can't shop there. 149 00:06:05,665 --> 00:06:05,825 Speaker 1: There. 150 00:06:05,865 --> 00:06:08,825 Speaker 3: There there, They're half your options are gone. So it's 151 00:06:08,905 --> 00:06:11,785 Speaker 3: teaching women that you can shop in body or sports, 152 00:06:11,785 --> 00:06:13,665 Speaker 3: go wherever. It is just going looking for the things 153 00:06:13,705 --> 00:06:15,465 Speaker 3: that you want and need, don't. 154 00:06:15,265 --> 00:06:17,425 Speaker 1: Worry about yeah, and just having brows. You don't have 155 00:06:17,505 --> 00:06:19,105 Speaker 1: to buy. But if you haven't been in there for 156 00:06:19,345 --> 00:06:21,465 Speaker 1: one year, five years, ten years, go and see what 157 00:06:21,505 --> 00:06:21,865 Speaker 1: it's like. 158 00:06:21,985 --> 00:06:23,705 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and sometimes you know we have had a bad 159 00:06:23,745 --> 00:06:25,465 Speaker 3: experience as a brand, and we're like, I'm never going 160 00:06:25,505 --> 00:06:28,145 Speaker 3: back to that brand again because bloody Cheryl, she ripped 161 00:06:28,145 --> 00:06:30,425 Speaker 3: me off me. Can you give me the receipt? But 162 00:06:30,665 --> 00:06:33,705 Speaker 3: forget about those bad experiences or those past perceptions what 163 00:06:33,705 --> 00:06:36,305 Speaker 3: you think a brand is like because brand's always changing 164 00:06:36,345 --> 00:06:39,425 Speaker 3: and evolving and having new collections. So almost like, don't 165 00:06:39,425 --> 00:06:41,265 Speaker 3: even look at the brands or the stores you're going into. 166 00:06:41,425 --> 00:06:43,185 Speaker 3: Just go in with knowing what you want to buy, 167 00:06:43,625 --> 00:06:45,545 Speaker 3: and forget about the brands that you're looking at and 168 00:06:45,585 --> 00:06:45,985 Speaker 3: just go in. 169 00:06:46,225 --> 00:06:48,865 Speaker 1: So true because despite this job of mine, I go 170 00:06:48,945 --> 00:06:51,225 Speaker 1: to my local shopping center and I know the stores 171 00:06:51,265 --> 00:06:53,225 Speaker 1: there and I go to them same three. And you know, 172 00:06:53,425 --> 00:06:55,305 Speaker 1: of course I do research for work and shop online. 173 00:06:55,345 --> 00:06:57,465 Speaker 1: But even online I go to a bunch of websites 174 00:06:57,545 --> 00:06:59,185 Speaker 1: that I go to far more than any others. So 175 00:06:59,225 --> 00:07:03,105 Speaker 1: it's getting out and just going to places you haven't been. Absolutely, yeah, 176 00:07:03,225 --> 00:07:04,185 Speaker 1: I want to go shopping with you. 177 00:07:04,225 --> 00:07:05,185 Speaker 3: All right, let's do it now. 178 00:07:05,225 --> 00:07:08,785 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a good outfit day, 179 00:07:08,865 --> 00:07:11,025 Speaker 1: so we want to for a wardrobe full of God, 180 00:07:11,305 --> 00:07:13,465 Speaker 1: good good outfit day. I love that. 181 00:07:13,625 --> 00:07:15,545 Speaker 3: I always say to people, you want to have a 182 00:07:15,625 --> 00:07:19,825 Speaker 3: God experience every day, and God is good outfit day. 183 00:07:19,945 --> 00:07:22,985 Speaker 3: You wake up put on that God all day. You 184 00:07:23,065 --> 00:07:25,625 Speaker 3: look good, you feel confident, you feel empowered, you own 185 00:07:25,665 --> 00:07:28,105 Speaker 3: the room, you have good day at work, you're happy 186 00:07:28,145 --> 00:07:30,785 Speaker 3: with a family. And that's the power of a good outfit. 187 00:07:30,945 --> 00:07:34,385 Speaker 3: And you want to create a wardrobe full of God outfits. Yes, 188 00:07:34,505 --> 00:07:37,425 Speaker 3: so every day you can feel empowered and amazing and wonderful. 189 00:07:37,545 --> 00:07:39,065 Speaker 1: That is the best acronym. I love it. I thought 190 00:07:39,065 --> 00:07:40,985 Speaker 1: of GHD for good hair Day, but I like this 191 00:07:41,105 --> 00:07:44,585 Speaker 1: related to fashion, yeah, exactly. Listeners to this show will 192 00:07:44,585 --> 00:07:47,345 Speaker 1: have various problems or just want to hear various people 193 00:07:47,465 --> 00:07:50,865 Speaker 1: like you, experts, opinions on you know, it could be budget, 194 00:07:51,105 --> 00:07:53,745 Speaker 1: it could be not knowing what suits them like you say, 195 00:07:53,785 --> 00:07:56,465 Speaker 1: it could be something from their past or something they've 196 00:07:56,505 --> 00:07:59,465 Speaker 1: told themselves. If they don't have a U to take 197 00:07:59,505 --> 00:08:01,625 Speaker 1: them shopping, how can we help them if they can? 198 00:08:02,865 --> 00:08:05,145 Speaker 3: So many ideas here. So the first thing I would 199 00:08:05,145 --> 00:08:07,145 Speaker 3: say is, I guess you need a sense of inspiration. 200 00:08:07,465 --> 00:08:10,105 Speaker 3: So I say Pinterest is a good source in terms 201 00:08:10,105 --> 00:08:12,385 Speaker 3: of working out what you like. So, you know, I've 202 00:08:12,385 --> 00:08:13,785 Speaker 3: got a few Pinterest pages and I'll go through and 203 00:08:13,825 --> 00:08:15,665 Speaker 3: I'll pin things that I love, and then when you 204 00:08:15,665 --> 00:08:17,665 Speaker 3: go back through your fold as you kind of be like, Okay, 205 00:08:17,705 --> 00:08:19,505 Speaker 3: these are the things I love. These are the vibes, 206 00:08:19,505 --> 00:08:21,465 Speaker 3: these are the shapes of the colors. I think it's 207 00:08:21,465 --> 00:08:24,345 Speaker 3: great to have celebrity crushes and people style that you love. Again, 208 00:08:24,425 --> 00:08:26,625 Speaker 3: go through those pages and be like, oh, I like 209 00:08:26,665 --> 00:08:28,665 Speaker 3: as you's done that that bad and I love these pieces, 210 00:08:28,665 --> 00:08:30,905 Speaker 3: and start to get some ideas of your missing pieces 211 00:08:30,945 --> 00:08:33,025 Speaker 3: of what you can buy to achieve those looks. 212 00:08:33,225 --> 00:08:35,505 Speaker 1: So listen to start to get a common theme. Then 213 00:08:35,545 --> 00:08:37,905 Speaker 1: don't you I feel saved enough or looked enough. You're like, oh, 214 00:08:38,185 --> 00:08:38,825 Speaker 1: maybe that's my. 215 00:08:38,945 --> 00:08:42,105 Speaker 3: Shapes and colors and things that be like, Okay, this 216 00:08:42,185 --> 00:08:43,625 Speaker 3: is what I want to shop for. But I think 217 00:08:43,665 --> 00:08:47,065 Speaker 3: most importantly too is know your own wardrobe. I think 218 00:08:47,145 --> 00:08:49,185 Speaker 3: we're very much guilty of going out and buying lots 219 00:08:49,225 --> 00:08:51,425 Speaker 3: of things. But know what you have, know what your 220 00:08:51,465 --> 00:08:53,665 Speaker 3: gaps are. Have you got those top fifteen things that 221 00:08:53,745 --> 00:08:55,705 Speaker 3: every woman should have in a wardrobe, because if you don't, 222 00:08:55,905 --> 00:08:58,745 Speaker 3: that should be your starting point. Have those wardrobe essentials first. 223 00:08:59,225 --> 00:09:01,705 Speaker 3: Got those great, Now we can get some trend items 224 00:09:01,785 --> 00:09:04,185 Speaker 3: or some pieces that you know you might see some 225 00:09:04,225 --> 00:09:07,265 Speaker 3: celebrities wearing, but actually go into your wardrobe first, do 226 00:09:07,385 --> 00:09:09,305 Speaker 3: the cull, get rid of the crap, get the weeds 227 00:09:09,305 --> 00:09:09,625 Speaker 3: out of it. 228 00:09:09,945 --> 00:09:13,745 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like gardening. You're that's such a good you get. 229 00:09:13,665 --> 00:09:15,945 Speaker 3: Those weeds out first. Then you've got to get the fertilizer, 230 00:09:16,105 --> 00:09:18,305 Speaker 3: and then you can have that beautiful grown gardens. 231 00:09:18,425 --> 00:09:19,945 Speaker 1: So true because if you've got to, like I'm thinking 232 00:09:19,985 --> 00:09:21,265 Speaker 1: of my wardrobe at the moment, if you've got a 233 00:09:21,265 --> 00:09:22,665 Speaker 1: garden full of weeds, you know it's a mess. It 234 00:09:22,665 --> 00:09:25,025 Speaker 1: hasn't been cleaned out, and you don't know what's there. 235 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:26,305 Speaker 1: You don't want to go and play in there. But 236 00:09:26,345 --> 00:09:27,745 Speaker 1: once you've got all the weeds out, it's such a 237 00:09:27,825 --> 00:09:30,665 Speaker 1: joyful place because what's left is valuable. 238 00:09:30,385 --> 00:09:32,265 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And then when shopping becomes so much 239 00:09:32,265 --> 00:09:33,785 Speaker 3: easier because you know what your gaps are and you 240 00:09:33,905 --> 00:09:35,425 Speaker 3: kind of got a bit of a plan. Now you 241 00:09:35,585 --> 00:09:38,065 Speaker 3: kind of thinking, Okay, if I want to create that 242 00:09:38,105 --> 00:09:39,745 Speaker 3: style of that celebrity, then I know I want to 243 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:41,745 Speaker 3: buy these pieces, and I've got all my essential pieces 244 00:09:42,065 --> 00:09:44,585 Speaker 3: and then you have these beautiful garden of clothes. 245 00:09:44,985 --> 00:09:46,905 Speaker 1: I'm going to use that analogy all the time. So 246 00:09:47,065 --> 00:09:50,625 Speaker 1: on that point of confidence, and you mentioned the essentials, 247 00:09:50,665 --> 00:09:53,265 Speaker 1: I think you said fifteen. Is that I've done fast. 248 00:09:53,145 --> 00:09:55,505 Speaker 3: Number pretty much? I think. So if I had to 249 00:09:55,625 --> 00:09:57,865 Speaker 3: really condense your and have fifteen things you could buy, 250 00:09:57,865 --> 00:09:59,225 Speaker 3: I think it's about fifteen essentials. 251 00:09:59,505 --> 00:10:01,345 Speaker 1: And have you come up with that. I'm going to 252 00:10:01,345 --> 00:10:03,065 Speaker 1: ask you what a couple of them are in a moment, 253 00:10:03,065 --> 00:10:04,785 Speaker 1: but have you come up with that over your years 254 00:10:04,825 --> 00:10:07,145 Speaker 1: and years of taking real women shopping and what they're 255 00:10:07,225 --> 00:10:08,905 Speaker 1: missing and then what fills the holes? 256 00:10:08,985 --> 00:10:11,425 Speaker 3: Yeah, So whenever do any style session, we sit down 257 00:10:11,465 --> 00:10:12,985 Speaker 3: for a coffee first before we hit the shops, and 258 00:10:13,025 --> 00:10:15,585 Speaker 3: I'll actually say do you have these items? And we'll 259 00:10:15,625 --> 00:10:17,345 Speaker 3: go through so you know, your little black dress, your 260 00:10:17,345 --> 00:10:19,145 Speaker 3: white shirt, your pair of gean, your black planets, your 261 00:10:19,185 --> 00:10:21,865 Speaker 3: black skirt, laser. You know, if you don't have any 262 00:10:21,865 --> 00:10:23,785 Speaker 3: of those, that is the first things we're going to 263 00:10:23,825 --> 00:10:26,745 Speaker 3: shop for because they become the cornerstone of your wardrobe. 264 00:10:26,745 --> 00:10:29,025 Speaker 3: They are the glue, so anything else you buy will 265 00:10:29,065 --> 00:10:31,225 Speaker 3: stick with that, so you'll always have something to wear. 266 00:10:31,545 --> 00:10:33,625 Speaker 3: Then when you're traveling, if you just pack those fifteen 267 00:10:33,745 --> 00:10:35,145 Speaker 3: items or so, always got something, that. 268 00:10:35,345 --> 00:10:37,865 Speaker 1: Is such a good point when you meet with these clients. 269 00:10:37,945 --> 00:10:40,145 Speaker 1: Is it often that they don't have them, or you know, 270 00:10:40,385 --> 00:10:43,825 Speaker 1: enough combinations of them, or sometimes do they have just them? 271 00:10:44,065 --> 00:10:44,745 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 272 00:10:44,985 --> 00:10:47,505 Speaker 3: Actually shocked at how many pieces of women don't have 273 00:10:47,705 --> 00:10:49,785 Speaker 3: from those things because they seem so basic. You know, 274 00:10:50,105 --> 00:10:52,105 Speaker 3: for example, a classic white shirt. Most people are like, oh, 275 00:10:52,105 --> 00:10:53,345 Speaker 3: white shirt, how boring? 276 00:10:53,465 --> 00:10:55,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, not fun to shop? Four hens don't have? 277 00:10:55,425 --> 00:10:57,225 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill, I think where they If you work in 278 00:10:57,225 --> 00:10:58,865 Speaker 3: a business world, it's like, no, a white shirt you 279 00:10:58,905 --> 00:11:00,785 Speaker 3: could wear over a cozee, you could wear it open, 280 00:11:00,825 --> 00:11:03,265 Speaker 3: over a T shirt, you could layer it. So I 281 00:11:03,305 --> 00:11:05,505 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are missing those essential pieces. 282 00:11:05,505 --> 00:11:07,665 Speaker 3: So when you shot for those and suddenly they've got them, 283 00:11:08,065 --> 00:11:08,945 Speaker 3: it's a game changer. 284 00:11:09,225 --> 00:11:12,985 Speaker 1: And now what about if those essentials are outdated? Not 285 00:11:13,025 --> 00:11:15,385 Speaker 1: saying that we have to follow every brand new trend, 286 00:11:15,665 --> 00:11:18,145 Speaker 1: but you know, I went through my black pants recently, 287 00:11:18,225 --> 00:11:20,545 Speaker 1: and black pants are a classic kind of staple, but 288 00:11:20,585 --> 00:11:21,985 Speaker 1: some of them I was just like, you are not 289 00:11:22,385 --> 00:11:25,145 Speaker 1: right for me anymore. So do we have to update 290 00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:26,025 Speaker 1: our staples? 291 00:11:26,145 --> 00:11:27,665 Speaker 3: I think so? You know, like for example, you know, 292 00:11:27,705 --> 00:11:30,025 Speaker 3: classic black pants you might have bought ten years ago. 293 00:11:30,345 --> 00:11:32,345 Speaker 3: Right now you might want something with slightly wider leg 294 00:11:32,425 --> 00:11:34,785 Speaker 3: or a higher waist. Our bodies change over time. Right 295 00:11:34,785 --> 00:11:37,145 Speaker 3: now I need a high waist, So it's absolutely perfect 296 00:11:37,145 --> 00:11:39,225 Speaker 3: idea to update your essentials everyone in a while as 297 00:11:39,265 --> 00:11:42,105 Speaker 3: your body changes or your needs change. Absolutely yeah, I 298 00:11:42,145 --> 00:11:43,785 Speaker 3: know it. And jeans. I think jeans are one of 299 00:11:43,825 --> 00:11:46,105 Speaker 3: those things that always kind of changing too. So it's 300 00:11:46,105 --> 00:11:47,425 Speaker 3: always good to update your gyms. 301 00:11:47,425 --> 00:11:49,545 Speaker 1: But don't throw away your skinnies because apparently they're still 302 00:11:49,585 --> 00:11:50,985 Speaker 1: coming back. I'm hearing you. 303 00:11:50,865 --> 00:11:52,705 Speaker 3: Know what I swear. If I got a dollar for 304 00:11:52,785 --> 00:11:54,865 Speaker 3: every time I get asked, can I just to wear 305 00:11:54,865 --> 00:11:56,745 Speaker 3: my skinny jeans, I would be rich. 306 00:11:56,905 --> 00:11:57,785 Speaker 1: And what's your answer? 307 00:11:58,025 --> 00:12:01,025 Speaker 3: I say, if they make you feel good, keep wearing. 308 00:12:01,185 --> 00:12:03,025 Speaker 1: I was going to say, if they make you feel comfortable. 309 00:12:03,185 --> 00:12:04,825 Speaker 3: That's what fashion is all about. You know. I got 310 00:12:04,865 --> 00:12:07,385 Speaker 3: to admit, these wide pants don't do a lot for us, 311 00:12:07,425 --> 00:12:10,825 Speaker 3: are adding bulk to our friends. So you know, if 312 00:12:10,825 --> 00:12:13,345 Speaker 3: a skinny jeen makes you feel good, keep wearing that 313 00:12:13,385 --> 00:12:16,065 Speaker 3: skinny jean, girlfriend, because do it. 314 00:12:16,105 --> 00:12:18,505 Speaker 1: And because that goes to show again why your service 315 00:12:18,545 --> 00:12:21,585 Speaker 1: is so valuable. Because confidence is different to different people, 316 00:12:21,625 --> 00:12:24,425 Speaker 1: and confidence might not be you know, quote unquote looking 317 00:12:24,505 --> 00:12:27,065 Speaker 1: cool if you don't feel good, if you feel silly, 318 00:12:27,105 --> 00:12:29,225 Speaker 1: if you feel like it doesn't suit you absolutely. 319 00:12:29,385 --> 00:12:32,705 Speaker 3: I always say, don't follow trends just because it's a trend. 320 00:12:32,785 --> 00:12:34,945 Speaker 3: If you don't love it, don't follow it. You know 321 00:12:35,185 --> 00:12:36,945 Speaker 3: you have to love it, Your heart has to love 322 00:12:36,945 --> 00:12:39,105 Speaker 3: it because when you wear it, you want to feel it. 323 00:12:39,145 --> 00:12:41,625 Speaker 3: You just feel with joy. So don't weigh things just 324 00:12:41,705 --> 00:12:43,305 Speaker 3: because you know someone else is wearing it. 325 00:12:52,545 --> 00:12:57,065 Speaker 1: Getting a stylist can be intimidating or exclusive, but even fashion, 326 00:12:57,225 --> 00:12:59,825 Speaker 1: and you know, caring about what you look like can 327 00:12:59,865 --> 00:13:02,465 Speaker 1: feel like you're vein or you don't know how. You 328 00:13:02,465 --> 00:13:04,865 Speaker 1: know it's for the fancy people, But how do people 329 00:13:04,865 --> 00:13:08,425 Speaker 1: shift that mindset to realize that everyone deserves to enjoy 330 00:13:08,425 --> 00:13:10,545 Speaker 1: getting dressed if they want to or enjoy shopping, or 331 00:13:10,705 --> 00:13:12,585 Speaker 1: at least not hate it and be scared of it. 332 00:13:12,745 --> 00:13:14,425 Speaker 3: I think one of my manch has always has been 333 00:13:14,545 --> 00:13:16,785 Speaker 3: is everyone does to look good and feel fabulous, and 334 00:13:16,785 --> 00:13:19,065 Speaker 3: no matter your age, your size, of shopping budget, I 335 00:13:19,065 --> 00:13:21,385 Speaker 3: think that's really important. We all want to feel good, 336 00:13:21,385 --> 00:13:23,145 Speaker 3: we want to feel happy, we want to feel confident, and 337 00:13:23,185 --> 00:13:25,625 Speaker 3: clothes allow us to do that. We wear clothes every day. 338 00:13:25,665 --> 00:13:27,625 Speaker 3: Like you said earlier, it's our arm are in life. 339 00:13:27,905 --> 00:13:31,865 Speaker 1: It's illegal, not too unfortunately, you know, I'm this. 340 00:13:31,825 --> 00:13:36,105 Speaker 3: Colony correct do what you want. But otherwise you were 341 00:13:36,105 --> 00:13:38,425 Speaker 3: in clothes every day, So it is important to invest 342 00:13:38,585 --> 00:13:41,145 Speaker 3: time into your clothes. Like think about how much money 343 00:13:41,305 --> 00:13:44,265 Speaker 3: we put into our hair, our nails, our tans and that, 344 00:13:44,545 --> 00:13:47,465 Speaker 3: and they're not really essential that the clothes are. So 345 00:13:47,585 --> 00:13:50,465 Speaker 3: if you just invested in the stylist once in your lifetime, 346 00:13:50,945 --> 00:13:53,425 Speaker 3: or even just a stylish friend or you know, one 347 00:13:53,465 --> 00:13:55,065 Speaker 3: of your gay mates who has a bit of you know, 348 00:13:55,425 --> 00:13:57,145 Speaker 3: loves going shopping just to have. 349 00:13:57,145 --> 00:13:59,265 Speaker 1: Better ones to go shopping with. I fine, because you 350 00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:00,945 Speaker 1: don't both fall in love with the same piece and go. 351 00:14:00,985 --> 00:14:02,625 Speaker 1: But I want to wear it to lunch on Saturday. 352 00:14:02,705 --> 00:14:05,105 Speaker 3: And they'll tell you, and they'll tell you the truth, 353 00:14:05,265 --> 00:14:05,465 Speaker 3: you know. 354 00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:08,505 Speaker 1: So we've got a listener. Let's pretend this listener or 355 00:14:08,545 --> 00:14:11,225 Speaker 1: anyone out there, wants to feel more confident, wants to 356 00:14:11,345 --> 00:14:14,105 Speaker 1: get the courage to care about what they wear or 357 00:14:14,185 --> 00:14:17,105 Speaker 1: to go shopping. Where did they start. Let's pretend they're 358 00:14:17,105 --> 00:14:19,425 Speaker 1: starting with a few key pieces, and we're talking about 359 00:14:19,465 --> 00:14:21,905 Speaker 1: sort of now autumn, going into the cooler months. What 360 00:14:21,945 --> 00:14:24,025 Speaker 1: would you say to look for in terms of shapes 361 00:14:24,145 --> 00:14:25,025 Speaker 1: or colors. 362 00:14:25,105 --> 00:14:26,985 Speaker 3: Okay, so I think right now it's time to start 363 00:14:27,025 --> 00:14:29,625 Speaker 3: getting ready for autumn. As you said, so must have 364 00:14:29,905 --> 00:14:32,225 Speaker 3: is a great coat. I think a coat is an 365 00:14:32,265 --> 00:14:35,385 Speaker 3: absolutely must have. A trench would be a great starting 366 00:14:35,425 --> 00:14:37,545 Speaker 3: point if you don't have a trench. A beautiful wrap 367 00:14:37,665 --> 00:14:40,265 Speaker 3: style coat as well, I mean cash me would be 368 00:14:40,345 --> 00:14:42,145 Speaker 3: the dream if you want to invest in a cashmere coat. 369 00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:44,825 Speaker 3: So a good coat, a couple of beautiful knits. Obviously 370 00:14:44,865 --> 00:14:48,025 Speaker 3: it's all that layering. So some beautiful knits, and I 371 00:14:48,065 --> 00:14:49,505 Speaker 3: think you want to keep warm in your lower halfs 372 00:14:49,505 --> 00:14:51,945 Speaker 3: there's some nice pants or maybe a nice knit dress 373 00:14:52,065 --> 00:14:54,265 Speaker 3: or something like that. So you know, three to four 374 00:14:54,305 --> 00:14:56,345 Speaker 3: pieces that you can layer and that will get you 375 00:14:56,385 --> 00:14:57,345 Speaker 3: through the cooler months. 376 00:14:57,345 --> 00:14:59,465 Speaker 1: Okay, what colors are you seeing for this autumn? 377 00:14:59,905 --> 00:15:02,425 Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of beautiful rich burgundies and those 378 00:15:02,425 --> 00:15:05,145 Speaker 3: beautiful deep reds, which are so gorgeous. 379 00:15:05,265 --> 00:15:07,585 Speaker 1: I agree, they're pretty much fluttering on everyone they are. 380 00:15:07,705 --> 00:15:10,785 Speaker 3: They really are such a beautiful colors, so many different shades. 381 00:15:10,465 --> 00:15:13,105 Speaker 1: Of it too, Okay, and brown are's singing brown everywhere. 382 00:15:13,225 --> 00:15:14,785 Speaker 3: I am seeing brown everywhere. 383 00:15:14,865 --> 00:15:16,905 Speaker 1: I've always liked brown, And then I thought I hated brown, 384 00:15:16,905 --> 00:15:18,625 Speaker 1: and now I love brown. I'm such a sheep. 385 00:15:18,865 --> 00:15:21,665 Speaker 3: I'm so into this chocolate. Give it to me or 386 00:15:21,785 --> 00:15:23,825 Speaker 3: shades or flavors delicious. 387 00:15:24,145 --> 00:15:24,625 Speaker 1: I love it. 388 00:15:24,665 --> 00:15:26,065 Speaker 3: But again, as I said, it is a bit of 389 00:15:26,105 --> 00:15:27,705 Speaker 3: a trend. So I wouldn't go out and buy a 390 00:15:27,985 --> 00:15:29,425 Speaker 3: five thousand dollars brown coat. 391 00:15:29,545 --> 00:15:30,025 Speaker 1: Good point. 392 00:15:30,145 --> 00:15:33,385 Speaker 3: So this is where, you know, invest in those essentials 393 00:15:33,385 --> 00:15:35,545 Speaker 3: that we spoke about, but then the trend items like 394 00:15:35,545 --> 00:15:38,625 Speaker 3: a brown coat that's maybe Azara or something like that. 395 00:15:38,625 --> 00:15:40,305 Speaker 3: I feel more affordable now. 396 00:15:40,505 --> 00:15:43,225 Speaker 1: You take people shopping for a living like hello, you 397 00:15:43,265 --> 00:15:44,425 Speaker 1: spend other people's. 398 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:45,105 Speaker 3: It's the dream. 399 00:15:45,305 --> 00:15:47,345 Speaker 1: We're going to do some stores a bit later, and 400 00:15:47,385 --> 00:15:49,465 Speaker 1: why in bougie and budget. But I want to know 401 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:52,065 Speaker 1: where do you take your clients. Where do you have 402 00:15:52,145 --> 00:15:55,465 Speaker 1: the most luck. It can be expensive, it can be affordable, 403 00:15:56,185 --> 00:15:58,585 Speaker 1: but perhaps they would normally go, oh, I can't go 404 00:15:58,585 --> 00:16:00,585 Speaker 1: in there, or oh I wouldn't go in there. Okay, 405 00:16:00,785 --> 00:16:01,265 Speaker 1: tell me where? 406 00:16:01,625 --> 00:16:04,185 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you know most ladies I'm peaking too. 407 00:16:04,185 --> 00:16:07,065 Speaker 3: Obviously it's their local Westfield, so you know key stores 408 00:16:07,465 --> 00:16:10,025 Speaker 3: to Cuba. For me, strike great is incredible. Like I 409 00:16:10,065 --> 00:16:12,865 Speaker 3: think greed, I'll always come out with handfuls of stuff, 410 00:16:12,945 --> 00:16:13,785 Speaker 3: especially their genes. 411 00:16:13,905 --> 00:16:16,785 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're basics. I think it's like deluxe. 412 00:16:16,865 --> 00:16:18,905 Speaker 3: Yeah, basic and venim is the core of their brand. 413 00:16:18,905 --> 00:16:21,105 Speaker 3: That's where they began. So when a client says, I 414 00:16:21,105 --> 00:16:23,665 Speaker 3: don't have gena like right to Cuba, get the Becky gene. 415 00:16:23,665 --> 00:16:25,145 Speaker 1: Oh what I need to google that one. Do you 416 00:16:25,145 --> 00:16:27,545 Speaker 1: think that they've just better in the past few years 417 00:16:27,545 --> 00:16:29,385 Speaker 1: as well? It's always been a good Basis's. 418 00:16:29,025 --> 00:16:32,185 Speaker 3: Always absolutely really evolving. Their latest collection. Looking at it's 419 00:16:32,185 --> 00:16:35,065 Speaker 3: so fashion like you've got all the fashion colors, but 420 00:16:35,145 --> 00:16:38,145 Speaker 3: they understand, especially the mum who just needs something that's 421 00:16:38,145 --> 00:16:42,025 Speaker 3: stylish but yet practical and versatile. Dress it up school pickups, 422 00:16:42,185 --> 00:16:44,225 Speaker 3: wear it out for dinner and that's what we want. 423 00:16:44,385 --> 00:16:46,745 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so we like to Cuba. 424 00:16:46,905 --> 00:16:48,185 Speaker 3: This is a bit of a surprise one. But the 425 00:16:48,225 --> 00:16:51,105 Speaker 3: last month taking clients to sports Girl and you know, 426 00:16:51,185 --> 00:16:53,945 Speaker 3: I'm taking women who are generally in there, like thirties, forties, 427 00:16:53,945 --> 00:16:56,305 Speaker 3: fifty is like not going in sports Girl. And then 428 00:16:56,305 --> 00:16:58,705 Speaker 3: when we get in there, amazing, like the beautiful two 429 00:16:58,705 --> 00:17:01,385 Speaker 3: piece sets. I want to say, give me vibes or 430 00:17:01,425 --> 00:17:03,465 Speaker 3: the Lemon vibes without the price tag. 431 00:17:03,585 --> 00:17:04,945 Speaker 1: And do you know why. I love that because you 432 00:17:04,945 --> 00:17:06,345 Speaker 1: were and I a similar age, and there was a 433 00:17:06,345 --> 00:17:08,425 Speaker 1: point where I saved up all my money to shop 434 00:17:08,425 --> 00:17:10,265 Speaker 1: at sports Girl and then I haven't really been in 435 00:17:10,305 --> 00:17:12,705 Speaker 1: there much lately, and yeah, I would think it's too 436 00:17:12,745 --> 00:17:13,945 Speaker 1: young for me or whatever. 437 00:17:14,225 --> 00:17:17,145 Speaker 3: They've got some great pieces to Max So, like we 438 00:17:17,185 --> 00:17:19,105 Speaker 3: have these preconceived notions of brands, you've got to let 439 00:17:19,145 --> 00:17:21,705 Speaker 3: go of that and just shop everywhere. So they're doing 440 00:17:21,705 --> 00:17:24,585 Speaker 3: some fabulous things Portman's right now. I've taken clients in 441 00:17:24,625 --> 00:17:27,065 Speaker 3: there recently, some gorgeous stuff. I think we had ideas 442 00:17:27,105 --> 00:17:28,425 Speaker 3: of Portman's being very suity. 443 00:17:28,585 --> 00:17:31,385 Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. It was definitely cool pretty when all my 444 00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:33,345 Speaker 1: friends were starting to be lawyers and I was starting 445 00:17:33,345 --> 00:17:35,225 Speaker 1: out in media, and then I thought, oh well I 446 00:17:35,225 --> 00:17:36,465 Speaker 1: don't need a pencil skirt. 447 00:17:36,545 --> 00:17:38,265 Speaker 3: But some of the dresses that they're doing at the 448 00:17:38,305 --> 00:17:41,185 Speaker 3: moment absolutely phenomenal. Chic is another brand I can always 449 00:17:41,225 --> 00:17:43,665 Speaker 3: take client in, will always walk out with bags and stuff. 450 00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:48,025 Speaker 3: Forecast again Forecasts, very very under the radar, yes, but 451 00:17:48,145 --> 00:17:50,465 Speaker 3: again always finding beautiful things in there with clients. 452 00:17:50,465 --> 00:17:52,705 Speaker 1: Funny you say that, because I was looking for something 453 00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:54,425 Speaker 1: to wear it all fancy event lately and I was 454 00:17:54,425 --> 00:17:56,385 Speaker 1: on the Iconic actual they saw it on the They 455 00:17:56,385 --> 00:17:59,905 Speaker 1: do have something phenomenal pieces, very expensive. 456 00:18:00,545 --> 00:18:01,905 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they're doing some good things. 457 00:18:01,905 --> 00:18:04,105 Speaker 1: Now i'm your pretend clients. They've got a bit more money. 458 00:18:04,345 --> 00:18:06,785 Speaker 3: Where are we going? Okay? So I think into that 459 00:18:06,865 --> 00:18:10,385 Speaker 3: next kind of little shelf, Country Road, of the beautiful things, 460 00:18:10,465 --> 00:18:13,745 Speaker 3: some leather pieces that are just absolutely divine at the moment. 461 00:18:13,945 --> 00:18:15,065 Speaker 3: Have you shopped in Control. 462 00:18:16,145 --> 00:18:18,225 Speaker 1: Look, there's a skirt. I really want to let that 463 00:18:18,305 --> 00:18:21,305 Speaker 1: like almost like a circle skirt. Yeah, beautiful. Will I 464 00:18:21,305 --> 00:18:23,425 Speaker 1: get enough? We're out of it. No, I'll probably buy 465 00:18:23,665 --> 00:18:25,385 Speaker 1: an inspired by piece, but yeah. 466 00:18:25,225 --> 00:18:27,905 Speaker 3: Country Road. Yeah. And then I think, you know, if 467 00:18:27,905 --> 00:18:30,225 Speaker 3: you want to start speaking at some gorgeous designers like 468 00:18:30,265 --> 00:18:32,865 Speaker 3: me in a beautiful Alime two piece set just for 469 00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:36,305 Speaker 3: something color, I'm all about color and prints that spark 470 00:18:36,385 --> 00:18:38,545 Speaker 3: joy and Alime. I look at their pieces and it 471 00:18:38,585 --> 00:18:40,305 Speaker 3: makes me happy. I don't know they just if you 472 00:18:40,425 --> 00:18:42,945 Speaker 3: just had one piece, beautiful two piece set from alame 473 00:18:43,425 --> 00:18:45,265 Speaker 3: gorgeous and they were just in a new White Lotus 474 00:18:46,345 --> 00:18:47,825 Speaker 3: Alamee and is in them and both of you the 475 00:18:47,825 --> 00:18:51,305 Speaker 3: New White Lotus design The designers a snag a piece 476 00:18:51,305 --> 00:18:52,585 Speaker 3: before the paring price. 477 00:18:52,705 --> 00:18:54,345 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like that you said two piece set 478 00:18:54,345 --> 00:18:57,105 Speaker 1: because you're I can tell you're thinking versatility of it 479 00:18:57,225 --> 00:18:57,905 Speaker 1: is a set. 480 00:18:57,745 --> 00:19:00,545 Speaker 3: Where them are separate, you put them together. It's just easy. 481 00:19:00,585 --> 00:19:04,465 Speaker 3: It's polished, and people be like, oh Ali mae, yeah girl. 482 00:19:04,265 --> 00:19:07,185 Speaker 1: I love that. So, like I said before, you do 483 00:19:07,265 --> 00:19:09,145 Speaker 1: have sort of two sides of the coin to your job. 484 00:19:09,225 --> 00:19:12,265 Speaker 1: You dress what I would say, fancy celebrities and fancy 485 00:19:12,465 --> 00:19:15,505 Speaker 1: you know, events, and then you more everyday people that 486 00:19:15,505 --> 00:19:20,225 Speaker 1: aren't celebrities. Do they ever have anything in common? You know? 487 00:19:20,425 --> 00:19:21,625 Speaker 3: Is it so lead or. 488 00:19:21,585 --> 00:19:22,305 Speaker 1: Is it similar? 489 00:19:22,585 --> 00:19:26,265 Speaker 3: Regardless if they are a list Hollywood celebrity or every 490 00:19:26,305 --> 00:19:28,145 Speaker 3: day mom. One thing they have in common is they 491 00:19:28,145 --> 00:19:30,665 Speaker 3: both have insecurities. And we often look at these gorgeous 492 00:19:30,705 --> 00:19:32,305 Speaker 3: lebrities and say, oh my god, they are perfect. They 493 00:19:32,705 --> 00:19:35,785 Speaker 3: must be so happy, they can wear anything. No, I 494 00:19:35,785 --> 00:19:38,945 Speaker 3: feel they almost have more insecurities than every day people, 495 00:19:39,625 --> 00:19:41,945 Speaker 3: maybe because they are in that limelight and they know 496 00:19:41,985 --> 00:19:44,505 Speaker 3: there are millions of people watching everything that they do. 497 00:19:45,105 --> 00:19:47,585 Speaker 3: But you know, it's just a great reminder that we 498 00:19:47,625 --> 00:19:50,065 Speaker 3: all have insecurities. We all have things about our bodies 499 00:19:50,065 --> 00:19:52,345 Speaker 3: we don't like. Really, it is an eye opener and 500 00:19:52,785 --> 00:19:53,425 Speaker 3: eye open. It's good. 501 00:19:53,425 --> 00:19:54,865 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's really nice to hear, which 502 00:19:54,865 --> 00:19:56,905 Speaker 1: it's not, because I don't want anyone to feel that way. 503 00:19:56,905 --> 00:19:59,425 Speaker 1: But yes, you can feel very us in them. And 504 00:19:59,465 --> 00:20:01,145 Speaker 1: you know, we both are on social media and could 505 00:20:01,145 --> 00:20:03,705 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, our lives are very glamorous and not 506 00:20:03,745 --> 00:20:07,265 Speaker 1: with glamorous as a less celebrities. But everyone is human. 507 00:20:07,505 --> 00:20:10,505 Speaker 3: Absolutely, They're all humans. They have emotions and they definitely 508 00:20:10,625 --> 00:20:13,545 Speaker 3: have insecurity as well. So regardless if it's a celebrity 509 00:20:13,585 --> 00:20:16,585 Speaker 3: every day mum, I'll always begin with a briefing session 510 00:20:16,585 --> 00:20:18,825 Speaker 3: and chat to find out what they're comfortable in. Even 511 00:20:18,865 --> 00:20:20,505 Speaker 3: a celebrity, I'll ask you what parts of you what 512 00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:21,865 Speaker 3: did you love them most of the parts that you 513 00:20:21,945 --> 00:20:24,385 Speaker 3: may not like as much, and I factor that into 514 00:20:24,385 --> 00:20:26,385 Speaker 3: out because if you're going to walk down a red carpet, 515 00:20:26,785 --> 00:20:28,745 Speaker 3: I want them to own that red carpet and feel 516 00:20:28,785 --> 00:20:30,985 Speaker 3: amazing stuff. I'll put them in something that's hiding all 517 00:20:30,985 --> 00:20:34,025 Speaker 3: their best assets and accentuating parts they don't like. You're 518 00:20:34,065 --> 00:20:35,665 Speaker 3: going to see them walking down the red carpet like 519 00:20:35,665 --> 00:20:36,505 Speaker 3: looking really nervous. 520 00:20:36,585 --> 00:20:39,945 Speaker 1: And so it's the same for strutting into school pickup yeah. 521 00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:42,825 Speaker 3: Exactly, You're want to state school pick up and be like, damn, yeah, 522 00:20:43,105 --> 00:20:43,785 Speaker 3: looks amazing. 523 00:20:44,025 --> 00:20:46,185 Speaker 1: So confidence is at the root of everything you do, 524 00:20:46,265 --> 00:20:46,865 Speaker 1: no matter who. 525 00:20:46,945 --> 00:20:49,265 Speaker 3: It is, exactly, And I always ask those same questions 526 00:20:49,345 --> 00:20:51,185 Speaker 3: right at the beginning, doesn't matter if they're a celebrity 527 00:20:51,225 --> 00:20:52,505 Speaker 3: or an every day mom, because I really want to 528 00:20:52,505 --> 00:20:54,905 Speaker 3: get inside their head to understand how can I make 529 00:20:54,945 --> 00:20:57,065 Speaker 3: them feel amazing? What pieces kind of put on them 530 00:20:57,105 --> 00:20:59,185 Speaker 3: that they're just going to love them feeling powered totally? 531 00:20:59,225 --> 00:21:00,785 Speaker 1: And back to your point before. We all have to 532 00:21:00,785 --> 00:21:03,425 Speaker 1: wear clothes every day. We don't have to spend a 533 00:21:03,505 --> 00:21:05,025 Speaker 1: huge amount of money. You know, we can still be 534 00:21:05,025 --> 00:21:06,625 Speaker 1: on a tight budget, but we can feel good. 535 00:21:06,785 --> 00:21:07,425 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 536 00:21:07,585 --> 00:21:20,385 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very expensive. 537 00:21:20,865 --> 00:21:27,025 Speaker 1: How wondre these? So we thought we'd do some stores. 538 00:21:27,145 --> 00:21:29,065 Speaker 1: I mean, I've already drilled you on that, But do 539 00:21:29,105 --> 00:21:31,225 Speaker 1: you want to do that? Because I've got two not 540 00:21:31,345 --> 00:21:33,705 Speaker 1: unexpected ones. But I've got a bougie store that I'm 541 00:21:33,705 --> 00:21:35,505 Speaker 1: loving what they're doing for this autumn winter. 542 00:21:35,305 --> 00:21:37,345 Speaker 3: And a budget one. Okay, give it to me. 543 00:21:37,425 --> 00:21:40,905 Speaker 1: Okay, My budget is Target because as we know, you know, 544 00:21:41,185 --> 00:21:43,385 Speaker 1: Camart had to glow up. Target had to go up. 545 00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:45,785 Speaker 1: Big W's just had to go up the Target's autumn 546 00:21:45,785 --> 00:21:49,585 Speaker 1: winter range. Now is pretty phenomenal. All three of those stores. 547 00:21:49,305 --> 00:21:51,625 Speaker 3: I was in there the other day, right, are used. 548 00:21:51,465 --> 00:21:52,985 Speaker 1: To you know. I would always do a bit of Target, 549 00:21:52,985 --> 00:21:54,865 Speaker 1: particularly having a son. Some came out in big W. 550 00:21:55,105 --> 00:21:57,425 Speaker 1: But now all three of them. I'm going to the 551 00:21:57,425 --> 00:21:59,265 Speaker 1: women's section and I'm blown away. 552 00:21:59,505 --> 00:22:01,745 Speaker 3: It is amazing. Target. The other day I saw they've 553 00:22:01,745 --> 00:22:05,705 Speaker 3: got a faux leather trench. Oh my goodness, it is 554 00:22:05,905 --> 00:22:08,705 Speaker 3: just beautiful. And this shoes access through John if you 555 00:22:08,705 --> 00:22:09,345 Speaker 3: got to that section. 556 00:22:09,425 --> 00:22:15,305 Speaker 1: But Donnie, I bought forty dollars real Swede loafers from Target. 557 00:22:15,825 --> 00:22:18,665 Speaker 1: They come in black and beige. They are killing and 558 00:22:18,665 --> 00:22:19,505 Speaker 1: they're very comfortable. 559 00:22:19,585 --> 00:22:21,425 Speaker 3: And don't the men's section. I have a client she 560 00:22:21,625 --> 00:22:24,625 Speaker 3: likes oversized blazes, and she bought some men's blazes from 561 00:22:24,665 --> 00:22:27,465 Speaker 3: the Target section. So a lot of women love that 562 00:22:27,465 --> 00:22:29,345 Speaker 3: because it'll be more size and unstructured. 563 00:22:29,785 --> 00:22:31,305 Speaker 1: And I go thrifting all the time and look at 564 00:22:31,305 --> 00:22:32,705 Speaker 1: the men's section, but I never thought to go to 565 00:22:32,745 --> 00:22:34,185 Speaker 1: cam up big W or Target. Man. 566 00:22:34,345 --> 00:22:36,505 Speaker 3: Yes, so check it out. Don't sleep on that people, 567 00:22:36,585 --> 00:22:37,425 Speaker 3: It is incredible. 568 00:22:37,465 --> 00:22:39,585 Speaker 1: I've got to go and my bougie, you know it's 569 00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:42,465 Speaker 1: not outrageous, but it's more expensive than those stores. Is 570 00:22:42,745 --> 00:22:46,065 Speaker 1: seed this season? I've always loved seeds, dip in and out. 571 00:22:46,105 --> 00:22:48,225 Speaker 1: I find that there's summers maybe a bit too linen 572 00:22:48,225 --> 00:22:51,065 Speaker 1: near for me. But like we said, the rich chocolates, 573 00:22:51,225 --> 00:22:54,705 Speaker 1: the Burgundies, there's furry texture, there's velvet. 574 00:22:54,945 --> 00:22:55,905 Speaker 3: Oh yes, love it. 575 00:22:56,105 --> 00:22:59,545 Speaker 1: The Swede. I am so back in love with seed. 576 00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:00,985 Speaker 1: I'm saving up for a pair of shoes. They're not 577 00:23:01,065 --> 00:23:03,905 Speaker 1: extremely expensive, but I don't need another pair of shoes. 578 00:23:03,945 --> 00:23:06,105 Speaker 1: But I bought some fifty dollars Sunnies from them, their 579 00:23:06,145 --> 00:23:09,145 Speaker 1: new autumn collection. They're just a big, simple sunglass but 580 00:23:09,185 --> 00:23:11,665 Speaker 1: with sort of it was called Rainforest. It's kind of 581 00:23:11,705 --> 00:23:14,105 Speaker 1: like an olive green frame. And I've never had more 582 00:23:14,145 --> 00:23:16,705 Speaker 1: comments on a pair of Sunny's now fifty bucks. 583 00:23:16,865 --> 00:23:20,785 Speaker 3: Accessories really are the best way to up that your outfit. 584 00:23:20,825 --> 00:23:22,225 Speaker 3: I must say, do you get to that point with you? 585 00:23:22,265 --> 00:23:24,185 Speaker 3: I do, yeah, yah, absolutely, because I think accessories are 586 00:23:24,185 --> 00:23:25,905 Speaker 3: the frosting on the cake. And it's a part the 587 00:23:25,985 --> 00:23:27,825 Speaker 3: love of struggle with thought. Because we're busy mums, You're 588 00:23:27,865 --> 00:23:29,665 Speaker 3: running around. It's like the last thing we have time 589 00:23:30,025 --> 00:23:31,025 Speaker 3: adding those accessories. 590 00:23:31,025 --> 00:23:34,305 Speaker 1: But it feels optional, but it's actually sometimes the easiest. 591 00:23:34,345 --> 00:23:36,705 Speaker 3: And people know, I noticed your necklace so as I 592 00:23:36,745 --> 00:23:37,145 Speaker 3: walked in. 593 00:23:37,225 --> 00:23:39,105 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was literally running back in the house 594 00:23:39,145 --> 00:23:41,345 Speaker 1: because I was like, god, I basically so plain. 595 00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:43,305 Speaker 3: It's like the frosting on the cake and I really 596 00:23:43,345 --> 00:23:45,105 Speaker 3: noticed that. So taking those few extra moments in the 597 00:23:45,105 --> 00:23:48,345 Speaker 3: mont at that frosting. But also like, we're like magpies, right, 598 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,865 Speaker 3: we are literally drawn to anything shiny or blingy. So 599 00:23:50,865 --> 00:23:53,025 Speaker 3: that's exactly what my eyes went to. So I always say, 600 00:23:53,025 --> 00:23:55,065 Speaker 3: if you are feeling they self conscious about, you know, 601 00:23:55,145 --> 00:23:58,105 Speaker 3: our tummy section, if you wore that nice, big statement earing, 602 00:23:58,185 --> 00:24:00,345 Speaker 3: you've shifted the focus up here and away from our 603 00:24:00,385 --> 00:24:01,185 Speaker 3: area of concerns. 604 00:24:01,305 --> 00:24:03,745 Speaker 1: So true. And your handbag always fits, your sunglasses always 605 00:24:03,745 --> 00:24:05,465 Speaker 1: fits you. It doesn't matter what your body's doing. 606 00:24:05,665 --> 00:24:09,345 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So accessories always is the perfect way to finish 607 00:24:09,345 --> 00:24:11,345 Speaker 3: off your out but draw the attention away from our 608 00:24:11,345 --> 00:24:12,225 Speaker 3: eras of concern. 609 00:24:12,385 --> 00:24:15,185 Speaker 1: So you I ask you where you're like shopping for accessories, then. 610 00:24:15,105 --> 00:24:17,825 Speaker 3: Look, it can just be somewhere as affordable as Levisa. Yeah, 611 00:24:17,945 --> 00:24:20,105 Speaker 3: like they just wear things. Target even have some great 612 00:24:20,105 --> 00:24:22,385 Speaker 3: things in their jewelry section, and their bags are amazing 613 00:24:22,425 --> 00:24:22,825 Speaker 3: as well. 614 00:24:23,345 --> 00:24:25,825 Speaker 1: Levisa does a waterproof collection, which you think is you know, 615 00:24:25,905 --> 00:24:27,745 Speaker 1: for summer and swimming it if you go to Europe. 616 00:24:27,785 --> 00:24:29,825 Speaker 1: But I honestly just live in it and shower because 617 00:24:29,825 --> 00:24:31,465 Speaker 1: I'm lazy, and it does not tarnish. 618 00:24:31,505 --> 00:24:34,145 Speaker 3: And all these really beautiful sculptural gold earrings that are 619 00:24:34,185 --> 00:24:36,185 Speaker 3: at the moment to Cuba have them and they are 620 00:24:36,385 --> 00:24:38,425 Speaker 3: like twenty thirty bucks and they are phenomenal. 621 00:24:38,505 --> 00:24:40,745 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you can keep rocking that away. Can 622 00:24:40,785 --> 00:24:42,145 Speaker 1: you tell me we're anywhere else? Do you like to 623 00:24:42,185 --> 00:24:43,825 Speaker 1: go shopping? Or I really putting you off the. 624 00:24:44,585 --> 00:24:46,745 Speaker 3: No, I think I kind of nailed nailed it. 625 00:24:47,185 --> 00:24:49,225 Speaker 1: Do you do the big H and M's and Zara's 626 00:24:49,545 --> 00:24:49,905 Speaker 1: of course? 627 00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:52,745 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean I think that. I 628 00:24:52,745 --> 00:24:54,265 Speaker 3: actually did a post the other day and it's kind 629 00:24:54,265 --> 00:24:55,945 Speaker 3: of gone a little bit of viral. But I went 630 00:24:55,985 --> 00:24:59,545 Speaker 3: into Zara and I was just horrified what was available, 631 00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:03,265 Speaker 3: Like it was bad Boho, the Ruffles, the Prince. I 632 00:25:03,425 --> 00:25:05,785 Speaker 3: was shocked. I was like a beginning April falls right 633 00:25:05,865 --> 00:25:07,345 Speaker 3: that we're getting punked by Zara. 634 00:25:07,505 --> 00:25:10,905 Speaker 1: Yeah, and both seasons stores are stronger than another. 635 00:25:11,065 --> 00:25:12,785 Speaker 3: It does, but it goes through phases like I'll go 636 00:25:12,865 --> 00:25:14,545 Speaker 3: back in a month and most of that stuff's probably 637 00:25:14,545 --> 00:25:16,705 Speaker 3: gone and some new stuff will hopefully be better. Yes, 638 00:25:17,145 --> 00:25:18,785 Speaker 3: h and M's are of course. I always got some 639 00:25:18,905 --> 00:25:21,705 Speaker 3: great things cut and on, especially around summer when they 640 00:25:21,705 --> 00:25:24,505 Speaker 3: start doing their swimwear, their beach cover ups and stuff 641 00:25:24,545 --> 00:25:26,225 Speaker 3: like that. Absolute chef's kiss. 642 00:25:26,345 --> 00:25:28,585 Speaker 1: Definitely that, Donnie. Do you know what else I love 643 00:25:28,625 --> 00:25:30,505 Speaker 1: about your philosophy. What I've taken from this is that 644 00:25:30,625 --> 00:25:32,865 Speaker 1: confidence doesn't mean you need to have a lot or 645 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:34,025 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money. 646 00:25:34,185 --> 00:25:34,865 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 647 00:25:34,945 --> 00:25:38,025 Speaker 1: And that's just so relatable and so refreshing to hear. 648 00:25:38,185 --> 00:25:40,425 Speaker 3: I think. I mean, growing up and Dad was a 649 00:25:40,465 --> 00:25:42,785 Speaker 3: boiler maker, we didn't have a lot of money. I 650 00:25:42,785 --> 00:25:44,465 Speaker 3: remember Mum will take a shopping and we'd get a 651 00:25:44,465 --> 00:25:46,985 Speaker 3: best and lesson places like that. But as a young boy, 652 00:25:47,025 --> 00:25:49,505 Speaker 3: I was always fascinated about pulling out fits together, watching 653 00:25:49,585 --> 00:25:51,985 Speaker 3: mum a bit of a s interest making things and 654 00:25:52,105 --> 00:25:54,865 Speaker 3: how she just add this finesse and polish to her clothes. 655 00:25:55,225 --> 00:25:58,345 Speaker 3: Growing up having background, there's a saying called loudbella fie gooda, 656 00:25:58,345 --> 00:26:01,065 Speaker 3: which means you try to look put together and nice, 657 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:03,145 Speaker 3: even if you just going to the local shops or 658 00:26:03,465 --> 00:26:05,185 Speaker 3: just putting some effort in and I think that's always 659 00:26:05,185 --> 00:26:05,785 Speaker 3: just stuck with me. 660 00:26:05,905 --> 00:26:08,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that makes so much sense because I can 661 00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:09,945 Speaker 1: see you in forty years and you'll be the most 662 00:26:09,945 --> 00:26:11,945 Speaker 1: polished old Italian man. 663 00:26:15,505 --> 00:26:15,865 Speaker 3: Honestly. 664 00:26:15,945 --> 00:26:18,625 Speaker 1: No, you're such a joy to all Australian women that 665 00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:21,065 Speaker 1: you help shop and around the world. 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