1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:11,474 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mom with mea podcast. 2 00:00:15,954 --> 00:00:18,754 Speaker 2: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed 3 00:00:18,914 --> 00:00:22,914 Speaker 2: laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have. 4 00:00:22,834 --> 00:00:26,314 Speaker 1: To do it. You live for fashion. Hello, and welcome 5 00:00:26,354 --> 00:00:29,314 Speaker 1: to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that solves fashion problems 6 00:00:29,354 --> 00:00:32,114 Speaker 1: and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Tamorrow Holland. 7 00:00:32,034 --> 00:00:34,674 Speaker 3: And I'm listening to Picket and each week we talk 8 00:00:34,833 --> 00:00:37,233 Speaker 3: all things fashion, helping you get. 9 00:00:37,034 --> 00:00:39,273 Speaker 1: The most out of the clothes you already own, and 10 00:00:39,354 --> 00:00:41,434 Speaker 1: helping you decide if you're going to buy something, is 11 00:00:41,473 --> 00:00:45,114 Speaker 1: it or is it not worth investing in? So today, 12 00:00:45,473 --> 00:00:48,193 Speaker 1: my friend, we're talking shoes. We are breaking down the 13 00:00:48,273 --> 00:00:51,434 Speaker 1: key styles for the coming season, the shifting sneaker trends 14 00:00:51,513 --> 00:00:53,394 Speaker 1: and what they mean about what we're going to be wearing. 15 00:00:53,634 --> 00:00:57,273 Speaker 1: We're talking what's in, what's out, what's emerging, basically everything 16 00:00:57,314 --> 00:01:00,594 Speaker 1: you need to know. So strap in, lace up, let's 17 00:01:00,634 --> 00:01:02,474 Speaker 1: get into it. 18 00:01:02,514 --> 00:01:05,594 Speaker 3: And I've been so excited to talk about sneakers. You're 19 00:01:05,634 --> 00:01:06,794 Speaker 3: definitely a sneakerhead. 20 00:01:06,914 --> 00:01:10,114 Speaker 1: You're a sneaker girly, aren't you. You're across it. 21 00:01:10,394 --> 00:01:12,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so very much. This is my cup of. 22 00:01:12,714 --> 00:01:14,434 Speaker 1: Tea and what sneakers are you wearing today? 23 00:01:14,594 --> 00:01:18,194 Speaker 3: I'm wearing the Solomon xt s's, which we'll talk about 24 00:01:18,634 --> 00:01:19,394 Speaker 3: later on the app. 25 00:01:19,474 --> 00:01:21,834 Speaker 2: But I actually have these in three colorways? 26 00:01:21,914 --> 00:01:25,354 Speaker 1: Do you Okay? Wow, so you're very much into this sneaker. 27 00:01:25,394 --> 00:01:26,234 Speaker 1: I'm going to need you to. 28 00:01:29,554 --> 00:01:30,714 Speaker 2: You make them so cool? 29 00:01:30,714 --> 00:01:32,114 Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll get into it. 30 00:01:32,154 --> 00:01:34,354 Speaker 2: Okay, what is that on your foot? 31 00:01:35,194 --> 00:01:38,914 Speaker 1: Somehow, like everything you erely Sydney, you managed to pull eighteen. 32 00:01:39,154 --> 00:01:42,114 Speaker 1: So I saw an Instagram reel from a creator I 33 00:01:42,154 --> 00:01:45,034 Speaker 1: follow that asked the question, are sneakers still cool in 34 00:01:45,114 --> 00:01:49,834 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six or are they? Are they dead? Basically? 35 00:01:50,434 --> 00:01:52,594 Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you just straight up. I mean, 36 00:01:52,634 --> 00:01:54,994 Speaker 1: you're still wearing them. Obviously a lot of us are 37 00:01:54,994 --> 00:01:58,154 Speaker 1: still wearing sneakers. It's not like they're over. But like 38 00:01:58,354 --> 00:02:01,754 Speaker 1: I guess what she's asking the sentiment, you know, are 39 00:02:01,794 --> 00:02:05,234 Speaker 1: they kind of as cool as they were for the 40 00:02:05,354 --> 00:02:06,794 Speaker 1: last few years? What do you think? 41 00:02:07,634 --> 00:02:10,434 Speaker 3: As much as I hate to say it, there is 42 00:02:10,754 --> 00:02:14,314 Speaker 3: truth to that. So I do find the whole footwear 43 00:02:14,714 --> 00:02:18,314 Speaker 3: category it has a really interesting spot within like the 44 00:02:18,354 --> 00:02:21,154 Speaker 3: fashion zeitguys, And what I mean by that, I think 45 00:02:21,234 --> 00:02:24,874 Speaker 3: it's quite literally the only piece of fashion you wear 46 00:02:25,074 --> 00:02:28,633 Speaker 3: every single day. Underwear, you might be wearing a top 47 00:02:28,674 --> 00:02:29,754 Speaker 3: that doesn't require a bra. 48 00:02:29,914 --> 00:02:31,114 Speaker 2: I'm not wearing a bra today. 49 00:02:31,354 --> 00:02:33,594 Speaker 3: You know, you have to make a fashion choice every 50 00:02:33,634 --> 00:02:34,994 Speaker 3: day for footwear. 51 00:02:34,714 --> 00:02:36,954 Speaker 1: Unless you live where I live, where people get around 52 00:02:36,954 --> 00:02:40,274 Speaker 1: without shoes on because my husband does not wear shoes 53 00:02:40,514 --> 00:02:42,994 Speaker 1: in the supermarket, so that's the only caveat to that. 54 00:02:43,034 --> 00:02:46,234 Speaker 1: But yes, good point. Most people in normal society wear shoes. 55 00:02:46,834 --> 00:02:47,274 Speaker 2: That's right. 56 00:02:47,594 --> 00:02:51,514 Speaker 3: But I love the saying that sneakers don't die, they cycle, 57 00:02:51,914 --> 00:02:54,394 Speaker 3: And that's actually from a book which I'll reference later on. 58 00:02:54,474 --> 00:02:57,714 Speaker 3: But sneakers don't die, they cycle, They're almost just put 59 00:02:57,754 --> 00:03:01,794 Speaker 3: on ice. And you're exactly right. There is this oversaturation 60 00:03:02,074 --> 00:03:03,714 Speaker 3: of sneakers. 61 00:03:03,074 --> 00:03:05,634 Speaker 1: Because we had, if you think about it, going back, 62 00:03:05,674 --> 00:03:09,314 Speaker 1: like we've kind of had a tree ending sneaker every season, 63 00:03:09,434 --> 00:03:12,114 Speaker 1: or more than that, a couple of training sneakers in 64 00:03:12,154 --> 00:03:14,554 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist for as long as I can remember. I 65 00:03:14,634 --> 00:03:16,754 Speaker 1: was racking my brain and thinking back to when this 66 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:19,394 Speaker 1: kind of first started for me as a fashion writer, 67 00:03:19,514 --> 00:03:21,353 Speaker 1: and I mean, we could go way way way back, 68 00:03:21,354 --> 00:03:23,353 Speaker 1: but I'm just talking about the last few years when 69 00:03:23,434 --> 00:03:25,954 Speaker 1: on social media it's really reached like a fever pitch. 70 00:03:26,114 --> 00:03:28,834 Speaker 1: Do you remember when Megan Markle was spotted in those 71 00:03:29,354 --> 00:03:33,554 Speaker 1: major sneakers because they were vegan leather. Yeah, everyone started. 72 00:03:33,194 --> 00:03:34,674 Speaker 2: Wearing age everyone. 73 00:03:34,874 --> 00:03:39,394 Speaker 1: To me, that felt like the first instance of Wow, 74 00:03:39,474 --> 00:03:42,074 Speaker 1: everyone's wearing this sneaker. Everyone wants their hot little hands 75 00:03:42,074 --> 00:03:44,674 Speaker 1: on it. And that was like the trigger point. And 76 00:03:44,714 --> 00:03:46,714 Speaker 1: then it was Okay, well, what's the next one going 77 00:03:46,794 --> 00:03:49,354 Speaker 1: to be? And then we had you know, New Balanced 78 00:03:49,394 --> 00:03:51,794 Speaker 1: that it was the Dad sneakers exactly right, and then 79 00:03:51,794 --> 00:03:55,834 Speaker 1: it was the yeasy, foamy kind of big white sneaker, 80 00:03:55,874 --> 00:03:58,754 Speaker 1: the puffy sneaker. And then after that it entered added 81 00:03:58,834 --> 00:04:01,554 Speaker 1: US territory, and there's the sambas and there's just been 82 00:04:02,034 --> 00:04:03,594 Speaker 1: sneaker after sneaker after sneaker. 83 00:04:04,114 --> 00:04:07,314 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that is how the sneaker economy works. So 84 00:04:08,034 --> 00:04:10,994 Speaker 3: there is a subculture or there's a cool shoe that 85 00:04:11,114 --> 00:04:14,634 Speaker 3: it cools shoe, and then there's this over consumption, over 86 00:04:15,394 --> 00:04:18,594 Speaker 3: purchasing of this shoe's the New Balance nine O two o's. 87 00:04:18,714 --> 00:04:21,553 Speaker 3: I remember purchasing those maybe five years ago. I was 88 00:04:21,553 --> 00:04:24,713 Speaker 3: on wait lists. I spent well over on sort of 89 00:04:24,714 --> 00:04:26,794 Speaker 3: shifting it from the States to get this shoe I 90 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:29,553 Speaker 3: was in Platypus down in my rural in Barrel the 91 00:04:29,553 --> 00:04:31,753 Speaker 3: other day and there it was sitting. 92 00:04:31,513 --> 00:04:31,953 Speaker 2: On the shelf. 93 00:04:32,034 --> 00:04:36,674 Speaker 3: So it's just successful that scarcity's gone, and that scarcity 94 00:04:36,753 --> 00:04:39,953 Speaker 3: market works really well in shoes and handbags, as we know. 95 00:04:40,393 --> 00:04:43,314 Speaker 3: But it's that scarcity market when it becomes sort of 96 00:04:43,393 --> 00:04:48,194 Speaker 3: overproduced and consumed by the masses, it loses it's cool factor. 97 00:04:48,234 --> 00:04:51,074 Speaker 3: And that's what people love about sneakers, is that cool factor. 98 00:04:51,154 --> 00:04:56,274 Speaker 3: There's whole like ecosystems on the Internet devoted to sneaker culture. 99 00:04:55,873 --> 00:04:58,954 Speaker 1: Aren't there. There's like hype Beast and high Snabiety and 100 00:04:59,034 --> 00:05:02,193 Speaker 1: all these yeah, like for the sneakerheads, but they are 101 00:05:02,193 --> 00:05:05,633 Speaker 1: also like indicative of broader fashion trends that you know, 102 00:05:05,834 --> 00:05:09,713 Speaker 1: different sneaker trends will signal right. 103 00:05:09,513 --> 00:05:12,154 Speaker 2: But this isn't a collapse. I think that's important to note. 104 00:05:12,154 --> 00:05:16,193 Speaker 3: It's just a cool off period, and historically this is 105 00:05:16,234 --> 00:05:19,914 Speaker 3: exactly what needs to happen for that upswing of sneakers 106 00:05:19,914 --> 00:05:22,154 Speaker 3: to become cooler ken and maybe in like a year 107 00:05:22,274 --> 00:05:24,394 Speaker 3: or so, a different sort of shoe will come out 108 00:05:24,474 --> 00:05:27,433 Speaker 3: and that will be the issue. But like jeans, they're 109 00:05:27,433 --> 00:05:30,393 Speaker 3: always evergreen and there are definitely some shoes like the 110 00:05:30,393 --> 00:05:32,354 Speaker 3: Solomons that I'm wearing today, and they were spotted on 111 00:05:32,393 --> 00:05:35,754 Speaker 3: Haley Beaver literally two weeks ago, So there's still if 112 00:05:35,794 --> 00:05:38,794 Speaker 3: you're a sneak out there, they're there. 113 00:05:38,914 --> 00:05:39,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an. 114 00:05:39,553 --> 00:05:42,153 Speaker 1: If you know, you know things totally. They're not going anywhere, 115 00:05:42,154 --> 00:05:45,274 Speaker 1: they're just they're just cool enough. So they're still relevant, 116 00:05:45,794 --> 00:05:49,154 Speaker 1: definitely in a lot of circles. But what styles are 117 00:05:49,193 --> 00:05:51,193 Speaker 1: we wearing now and what's changed? I really want to 118 00:05:51,193 --> 00:05:53,674 Speaker 1: get into this because, like you said, they're definitely still around, 119 00:05:53,674 --> 00:05:57,074 Speaker 1: but I feel like the look of sneakers really shifted recently. 120 00:05:57,354 --> 00:05:59,873 Speaker 1: The big one for me, and this was so controversial 121 00:06:00,354 --> 00:06:03,314 Speaker 1: when it first landed like across my desk as a 122 00:06:03,354 --> 00:06:06,833 Speaker 1: fashion editor, and you know, we wrote some funny articles 123 00:06:06,873 --> 00:06:09,033 Speaker 1: about it and we teased it, but it's actually like 124 00:06:09,234 --> 00:06:13,433 Speaker 1: kind of come into the mass sort of consciousness now. 125 00:06:13,834 --> 00:06:17,793 Speaker 1: Is the quote unquote sneak arena. So this is the 126 00:06:17,834 --> 00:06:23,593 Speaker 1: basically the blending of two worlds like ballet with technical sneaker. Yeah, 127 00:06:23,753 --> 00:06:27,113 Speaker 1: sort of construction to create a sneaker that's sort of 128 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:30,513 Speaker 1: like that low profile, maybe a satin finish on it, 129 00:06:30,553 --> 00:06:34,514 Speaker 1: like like a traditional ballet shoe, hence the name sneak Arena. 130 00:06:34,553 --> 00:06:38,394 Speaker 1: And now we've seen brands like I think, sorry, I 131 00:06:38,433 --> 00:06:40,873 Speaker 1: think the sort of starting point for this shoe was 132 00:06:41,633 --> 00:06:45,074 Speaker 1: really hybra brands like Whales, Bonner and Simone Rocha coming 133 00:06:45,113 --> 00:06:47,674 Speaker 1: out with influential styles that were in the runway, and 134 00:06:47,674 --> 00:06:50,194 Speaker 1: then that's kind of trickled down to the likes of 135 00:06:50,234 --> 00:06:53,034 Speaker 1: you know, a Nike and added us doing shoes like this. 136 00:06:53,234 --> 00:06:56,674 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting, like you're saying that hybridness that's 137 00:06:56,753 --> 00:06:58,993 Speaker 3: created for this episode. I was looking back in the 138 00:06:59,113 --> 00:07:01,793 Speaker 3: archives at Copenhagen Fashion Week and street Style. 139 00:07:01,674 --> 00:07:05,433 Speaker 2: Which they are really like the early adopters and the 140 00:07:05,474 --> 00:07:06,633 Speaker 2: adapters of trends. 141 00:07:07,113 --> 00:07:09,874 Speaker 3: There were so many Mary Jane's, there were so many 142 00:07:10,154 --> 00:07:14,593 Speaker 3: ballerinashues that whole ballet core like a year or two ago, 143 00:07:14,953 --> 00:07:17,874 Speaker 3: and now it's sort of merged in Frankenstein into this 144 00:07:18,393 --> 00:07:23,114 Speaker 3: sneak arena and I love it. I love it because 145 00:07:23,474 --> 00:07:25,674 Speaker 3: you can kind of lean either way, Like if you're 146 00:07:25,754 --> 00:07:27,674 Speaker 3: more a Mary Jane, which is a little bit more 147 00:07:27,714 --> 00:07:32,074 Speaker 3: structure sneakerlike there's one on the market called that it's 148 00:07:32,114 --> 00:07:35,354 Speaker 3: the Puma Speedcat, so that leans more Mary Jane, but 149 00:07:35,393 --> 00:07:39,234 Speaker 3: there's also the addedas taekwondo ballet sneaker, which leans more 150 00:07:39,274 --> 00:07:41,434 Speaker 3: ballet and is a little bit softer and feminine. 151 00:07:41,514 --> 00:07:44,474 Speaker 2: So depending your style, it sort of is quite a 152 00:07:44,514 --> 00:07:46,674 Speaker 2: broad category or trend. 153 00:07:46,914 --> 00:07:50,874 Speaker 1: And we're even seeing like the real feminization of sneakers 154 00:07:50,874 --> 00:07:54,233 Speaker 1: with like different brands adding like lace and different color 155 00:07:54,314 --> 00:07:59,874 Speaker 1: like dainty laces and sort of like pale pastel colored Swedes, 156 00:07:59,914 --> 00:08:00,514 Speaker 1: and that kind. 157 00:08:00,354 --> 00:08:02,833 Speaker 3: Of really nice because there is a bit of fatigue 158 00:08:02,834 --> 00:08:05,754 Speaker 3: of that masculine oversized tread. 159 00:08:06,354 --> 00:08:08,794 Speaker 2: Like the new ballet, it is masculine. 160 00:08:08,794 --> 00:08:11,034 Speaker 3: I always do feel I have to, like even today 161 00:08:11,154 --> 00:08:15,514 Speaker 3: with the Solomon shoes, quite masculine, baggy rip jeans, masculine. 162 00:08:15,514 --> 00:08:17,514 Speaker 3: I had to sort of pair it with a more 163 00:08:17,634 --> 00:08:21,274 Speaker 3: softer cami top for Gingham top to sort of like 164 00:08:21,474 --> 00:08:22,314 Speaker 3: balance it out. 165 00:08:22,154 --> 00:08:22,634 Speaker 2: A little bit. 166 00:08:22,674 --> 00:08:26,353 Speaker 3: So it's nice having a softer sneaker, risque feminine style 167 00:08:26,434 --> 00:08:27,314 Speaker 3: shoe available. 168 00:08:27,874 --> 00:08:29,794 Speaker 1: So the next one I want to discuss with you, 169 00:08:29,874 --> 00:08:33,674 Speaker 1: it's a really fresh, fresh off the press trend or 170 00:08:33,754 --> 00:08:35,994 Speaker 1: is it a trend? I want to ask what you think. 171 00:08:36,434 --> 00:08:40,354 Speaker 1: I recently saw a street style image of Margo Robbie 172 00:08:40,394 --> 00:08:45,914 Speaker 1: wearing Converse high tops with jeans looking very cool. Do 173 00:08:45,954 --> 00:08:48,514 Speaker 1: we think that high tops are due for a return? 174 00:08:48,754 --> 00:08:49,394 Speaker 1: See this is. 175 00:08:49,394 --> 00:08:52,514 Speaker 2: Why I love speaking to you, Tam. Being a fashion. 176 00:08:52,274 --> 00:08:56,074 Speaker 3: Writer as you are, you're across what the celebrities are wearing. 177 00:08:56,394 --> 00:08:58,354 Speaker 2: Grammys, red carpets and whatnot. 178 00:08:58,434 --> 00:09:00,394 Speaker 3: So when I saw this, when you said this, I 179 00:09:00,394 --> 00:09:03,274 Speaker 3: was like, what Converse, I'm not aware of this. 180 00:09:03,394 --> 00:09:05,114 Speaker 2: I went straight to the data. 181 00:09:05,154 --> 00:09:08,674 Speaker 1: Of course you did. You're a started driven in your research. 182 00:09:08,714 --> 00:09:10,874 Speaker 1: You like to have the backup the facts. 183 00:09:10,954 --> 00:09:12,914 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, is this actually going to 184 00:09:12,954 --> 00:09:17,834 Speaker 3: be trending? And a CEO which aggravates trend data. I 185 00:09:17,874 --> 00:09:20,954 Speaker 3: looked at Australia alone for the past two years, the 186 00:09:20,994 --> 00:09:26,754 Speaker 3: searches for Converse high top had two specific peaks. One 187 00:09:26,794 --> 00:09:29,554 Speaker 3: was in March twenty five and then November twenty five. 188 00:09:29,834 --> 00:09:32,354 Speaker 3: So it's funny, like I was wondering when Margo while 189 00:09:32,474 --> 00:09:35,834 Speaker 3: someone has worn this. But it's a really great example 190 00:09:35,994 --> 00:09:38,394 Speaker 3: of all it takes is for a celebrity or a 191 00:09:38,434 --> 00:09:41,833 Speaker 3: celebrity stylist to make a conscious decision or maybe it's 192 00:09:41,874 --> 00:09:44,394 Speaker 3: subconscious about just throwing on a pair of Converse high 193 00:09:44,474 --> 00:09:47,194 Speaker 3: tops to really thrust it back into the zeitgeist. 194 00:09:47,234 --> 00:09:51,474 Speaker 1: Exactly one outfit can completely change the dial on what 195 00:09:51,514 --> 00:09:54,234 Speaker 1: we're all wearing. And that's how influential someone like a 196 00:09:54,274 --> 00:09:58,034 Speaker 1: Margo or a Haley Bieber or a Zoe Kravitz can be. Right, 197 00:09:58,034 --> 00:10:01,754 Speaker 1: if Zoe Krabit steps out in Converse next week and 198 00:10:01,874 --> 00:10:05,154 Speaker 1: doubles down that trend, I bet you all of a sudden, 199 00:10:05,394 --> 00:10:06,994 Speaker 1: everyone's going to be wearing them again. 200 00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:10,274 Speaker 3: Like you were saying, celebrities are a really good temperature check, Like. 201 00:10:10,234 --> 00:10:13,953 Speaker 2: Even with Solomon's. Look where I'm from, no. 202 00:10:13,954 --> 00:10:16,234 Speaker 3: One really wears them, but if I'm at an event, 203 00:10:16,314 --> 00:10:20,874 Speaker 3: they are hitting almost that oversaturation point. But I sort 204 00:10:20,874 --> 00:10:23,474 Speaker 3: of checked Hailey Beever, like I said, was wearing them 205 00:10:23,514 --> 00:10:26,634 Speaker 3: in January, and we had Jennifer Lawrence she had them 206 00:10:26,634 --> 00:10:27,354 Speaker 3: on in December. 207 00:10:27,514 --> 00:10:28,594 Speaker 1: It was December. 208 00:10:28,954 --> 00:10:32,394 Speaker 3: It's just sensing and temperature checking. Are they still relevant? 209 00:10:32,554 --> 00:10:34,234 Speaker 3: Like and you do. 210 00:10:34,274 --> 00:10:35,554 Speaker 2: Use that as a little bit a little bit of 211 00:10:35,594 --> 00:10:36,514 Speaker 2: a check, but yeah. 212 00:10:36,314 --> 00:10:38,794 Speaker 1: That's how But I just want to challenge that for 213 00:10:38,834 --> 00:10:42,594 Speaker 1: a second. Is relevance the main factor here? Because if 214 00:10:42,634 --> 00:10:45,234 Speaker 1: they're not, would you still wear? Like that's the question 215 00:10:45,314 --> 00:10:47,514 Speaker 1: I have, like are you wearing Salomon's? And I don't 216 00:10:47,514 --> 00:10:53,754 Speaker 1: mean you, yeah, are we wearing Salomon's? Because they're relevant 217 00:10:53,834 --> 00:10:54,834 Speaker 1: or because we love them. 218 00:10:55,194 --> 00:10:59,154 Speaker 3: I think it's a it's adjacent to like the rogue girl, 219 00:10:59,274 --> 00:11:01,994 Speaker 3: it's a if you know, you know, I think me 220 00:11:02,154 --> 00:11:05,514 Speaker 3: walking down the street in George Street, it's any old sneaker, 221 00:11:05,634 --> 00:11:07,874 Speaker 3: But if a girl spots it and she's a sneaker 222 00:11:07,914 --> 00:11:11,954 Speaker 3: fashion girl, it's that sort of a signaling signal. 223 00:11:11,994 --> 00:11:15,234 Speaker 1: That's right, it's signaling yeah. Isn't that so interesting? Because 224 00:11:15,234 --> 00:11:18,714 Speaker 1: if you isolate the piece itself, like if my you know, 225 00:11:19,474 --> 00:11:22,474 Speaker 1: if my mum saw those shoes, she wouldn't get it right. 226 00:11:22,674 --> 00:11:24,514 Speaker 1: But then, like you said, if a fashion girl he 227 00:11:24,634 --> 00:11:27,994 Speaker 1: clocks the shoes like, there's an instant recognition that And 228 00:11:28,034 --> 00:11:30,074 Speaker 1: I think so the row is a really good example. 229 00:11:30,074 --> 00:11:33,234 Speaker 1: I've written about this in my newsletter before, Like particularly 230 00:11:33,274 --> 00:11:35,274 Speaker 1: if we talk I know we're talking about sneakers right now, 231 00:11:35,274 --> 00:11:36,834 Speaker 1: but if we look at I've spent a lot of 232 00:11:36,834 --> 00:11:41,114 Speaker 1: time writing and musing about their twelve hundred dollar thongs. 233 00:11:41,674 --> 00:11:42,874 Speaker 1: You knew what I was going to say. 234 00:11:42,914 --> 00:11:43,634 Speaker 2: This is hell. 235 00:11:43,674 --> 00:11:47,514 Speaker 1: I will die on these thongs, these rubber thongs that 236 00:11:47,754 --> 00:11:51,434 Speaker 1: became the number one most searched for most in demand 237 00:11:51,474 --> 00:11:54,634 Speaker 1: accessory of twenty twenty five. A twelve hundred dollars pair 238 00:11:54,674 --> 00:11:56,754 Speaker 1: of thongs that if you take them out of the 239 00:11:56,834 --> 00:11:59,754 Speaker 1: high fashion context in which they exist, off the feet 240 00:11:59,794 --> 00:12:02,953 Speaker 1: of every celebrity who wore them, and every weight list 241 00:12:02,954 --> 00:12:05,754 Speaker 1: that they were on, you know, on all the major 242 00:12:05,914 --> 00:12:09,954 Speaker 1: websites that stopped them, and take away the scarcity. Like 243 00:12:10,034 --> 00:12:12,834 Speaker 1: you said, they are essentially just a pair of rubber 244 00:12:12,834 --> 00:12:16,754 Speaker 1: flip flops that you could get at lows. You're know, absolutely, 245 00:12:16,954 --> 00:12:19,234 Speaker 1: and yes they've been duped. They're still now you can 246 00:12:19,234 --> 00:12:22,674 Speaker 1: get them at any number of high street stores, but 247 00:12:22,714 --> 00:12:25,354 Speaker 1: the value is not there because they're not the row. Yeah, 248 00:12:25,394 --> 00:12:27,954 Speaker 1: but it just it just questions how the value that 249 00:12:27,954 --> 00:12:31,954 Speaker 1: we place on something that has that fashion cachet. 250 00:12:32,994 --> 00:12:35,434 Speaker 3: I guess with any sort of brands buying into that 251 00:12:35,594 --> 00:12:39,314 Speaker 3: luxury market, you are buying into that brand, right Yeah, 252 00:12:39,354 --> 00:12:41,394 Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess there is the relevancy of it. 253 00:12:41,474 --> 00:12:44,234 Speaker 3: But I also find like the practicality of a shoe 254 00:12:44,314 --> 00:12:47,434 Speaker 3: like this, and that actually leads us into the next 255 00:12:47,514 --> 00:12:50,154 Speaker 3: trend in shoe and sneaker that will be seeing and 256 00:12:50,194 --> 00:12:53,634 Speaker 3: it is this continued dominance in the trail sneaker like 257 00:12:54,074 --> 00:12:57,074 Speaker 3: the Solomon. I love the practicality of them, like I 258 00:12:57,154 --> 00:12:59,994 Speaker 3: do wear these shoes to the gym as well as 259 00:13:00,034 --> 00:13:00,874 Speaker 3: out and about today. 260 00:13:00,874 --> 00:13:04,434 Speaker 1: They have a use there. There's a utility there, utility 261 00:13:04,634 --> 00:13:07,754 Speaker 1: unlike a sneak arena. That's maybe just like a fashion shoe. Yeah, 262 00:13:07,834 --> 00:13:10,474 Speaker 1: unless you're doing bally in them. I don't know. I 263 00:13:10,554 --> 00:13:14,154 Speaker 1: can't speak from experience, so you can't hike in them, 264 00:13:14,594 --> 00:13:15,474 Speaker 1: that's essentially what. 265 00:13:15,474 --> 00:13:18,514 Speaker 3: There's a bit of charm around that, like I don't 266 00:13:18,514 --> 00:13:23,154 Speaker 3: think Haley Beaver's hiking, and like with in her Solomon's 267 00:13:23,154 --> 00:13:25,114 Speaker 3: I don't think Jennifer Lawrence is out there as well, 268 00:13:25,154 --> 00:13:28,234 Speaker 3: like bushwalking, but there's a little bit of a charm 269 00:13:28,274 --> 00:13:30,754 Speaker 3: and creating a bit of like mystery in that story 270 00:13:30,794 --> 00:13:33,754 Speaker 3: about you, I guess like addressing as a. 271 00:13:33,754 --> 00:13:35,714 Speaker 2: Character I suppose, which I've always enjoyed. 272 00:13:36,114 --> 00:13:36,874 Speaker 1: Feel you on that. 273 00:13:37,994 --> 00:13:42,674 Speaker 3: With the trail sneaker, it is a very like polarizing shoe. 274 00:13:42,674 --> 00:13:44,154 Speaker 2: You either love it or you hate it. 275 00:13:44,594 --> 00:13:48,314 Speaker 3: And Solomons are definitely sticking around, but there are going 276 00:13:48,394 --> 00:13:51,114 Speaker 3: to be some slight variations in this category. 277 00:13:51,554 --> 00:13:53,594 Speaker 2: So Buckley in Tamany You're. 278 00:13:53,474 --> 00:13:57,474 Speaker 3: At home, sit down because it's definitely not for everyone. 279 00:13:58,154 --> 00:14:02,594 Speaker 3: And Joshua Kate, who's the senior buyer at Hype DC 280 00:14:02,794 --> 00:14:06,394 Speaker 3: in Melbourne. He was saying last week that water shoes 281 00:14:06,514 --> 00:14:11,194 Speaker 3: and a roach shoes an early trend alert for what's 282 00:14:11,234 --> 00:14:13,594 Speaker 3: coming up in twenty twenty. It's an approach and I 283 00:14:13,634 --> 00:14:17,314 Speaker 3: was like, I beg your pardon, Google, what's an approach shoe? 284 00:14:18,034 --> 00:14:21,074 Speaker 3: It is quite literally like a rock climbing shoe, like 285 00:14:21,074 --> 00:14:21,794 Speaker 3: a toe shoe. 286 00:14:22,114 --> 00:14:24,874 Speaker 2: Well that's where my head went. That's a variation of it. 287 00:14:24,914 --> 00:14:27,714 Speaker 3: But it doesn't have to be a toe shoe. 288 00:14:28,834 --> 00:14:29,314 Speaker 2: So if he. 289 00:14:29,354 --> 00:14:33,554 Speaker 3: Almost emulates that sneak arena where it's the low profile, 290 00:14:33,834 --> 00:14:36,874 Speaker 3: so it's it's your typical hiking shoe, but it's a 291 00:14:36,914 --> 00:14:39,914 Speaker 3: lower profile, it's less rubber soul, it's seeing. 292 00:14:39,954 --> 00:14:41,954 Speaker 2: It's got that flexibility as if you were. 293 00:14:41,834 --> 00:14:44,674 Speaker 3: Sort of rock climbing, right, so if it were streamlined 294 00:14:44,674 --> 00:14:45,274 Speaker 3: on the foot. 295 00:14:45,434 --> 00:14:49,074 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe it's called an approach shoe because you can 296 00:14:49,154 --> 00:14:50,714 Speaker 1: like approach quietly. 297 00:14:50,754 --> 00:14:55,514 Speaker 2: Potentially something I don't know. That's a funny. The sneaker. 298 00:14:55,594 --> 00:14:58,994 Speaker 3: The name sneaker came from sneaking up playing basketball. 299 00:14:59,034 --> 00:15:01,634 Speaker 1: Stop it. Oh my god, I might be onto something. 300 00:15:01,834 --> 00:15:06,114 Speaker 2: So potentially broaching quietly. I love how you. 301 00:15:06,074 --> 00:15:10,154 Speaker 1: Said that, like you were reading children's quietly. 302 00:15:10,794 --> 00:15:13,634 Speaker 3: So yeah, this is going to be a trend, a 303 00:15:13,754 --> 00:15:16,514 Speaker 3: very again early adoption stage. We're not going to be 304 00:15:16,514 --> 00:15:20,754 Speaker 3: seeing I'm not walking in next episode recording wearing the approach, youes, 305 00:15:20,794 --> 00:15:22,314 Speaker 3: I don't think, but you never know. 306 00:15:22,354 --> 00:15:24,154 Speaker 2: I never thought I'd be wearing Solomons. I could be 307 00:15:24,194 --> 00:15:24,634 Speaker 2: in the I. 308 00:15:24,594 --> 00:15:26,314 Speaker 1: Think they might be growing on me the more I 309 00:15:26,354 --> 00:15:29,154 Speaker 1: look at them. Do you think you'll buy into the approach? 310 00:15:33,314 --> 00:15:36,714 Speaker 3: But last thing within the trail sneaker if anyone is 311 00:15:36,754 --> 00:15:39,754 Speaker 3: listening and they do like this trend, like myself, but 312 00:15:39,834 --> 00:15:42,754 Speaker 3: you know, Solomon's Assex is another example where there's sort 313 00:15:42,754 --> 00:15:45,274 Speaker 3: of a lot of them in the market. If you're 314 00:15:45,314 --> 00:15:48,634 Speaker 3: looking for a different brand, I would suggest Antus. It's 315 00:15:48,994 --> 00:15:51,154 Speaker 3: a new brand alert for twenty twenty six. It's one 316 00:15:51,154 --> 00:15:54,074 Speaker 3: of the fastest growing sneaker brands out there, and that's 317 00:15:54,074 --> 00:15:57,154 Speaker 3: from stock X. It's not a new brand per se, 318 00:15:57,314 --> 00:15:59,794 Speaker 3: like launch to market. It's actually been around for twenty years. 319 00:15:59,914 --> 00:16:02,274 Speaker 3: But that's like the Solomons and New Balance, it's just 320 00:16:02,314 --> 00:16:03,834 Speaker 3: had that relevancy. 321 00:16:03,514 --> 00:16:07,394 Speaker 1: Prediscovered and it's yeah, you'd actually really like it. A look. 322 00:16:08,034 --> 00:16:10,634 Speaker 1: I had a little look at Anta and I love 323 00:16:11,194 --> 00:16:16,474 Speaker 1: so they're like swyed brightly colored sneakers, not reinventing the 324 00:16:16,474 --> 00:16:19,114 Speaker 1: wheel in that regard, but they've got a trio of 325 00:16:19,194 --> 00:16:22,234 Speaker 1: multi colored laces on the top, and I think that 326 00:16:22,354 --> 00:16:27,314 Speaker 1: speaks to the ability for accessory brand potentially to cut 327 00:16:27,354 --> 00:16:30,514 Speaker 1: through just with a unique design, because that's not necessarily 328 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:34,274 Speaker 1: doing anything like completely new. It's just like something that 329 00:16:34,354 --> 00:16:37,074 Speaker 1: looks fresh to our eye, and it's a new concept 330 00:16:37,114 --> 00:16:40,034 Speaker 1: that we haven't seen in a while, Like, oh, personalizing 331 00:16:40,074 --> 00:16:42,874 Speaker 1: your laceers or colorful lacers look so fresh right now. 332 00:16:42,914 --> 00:16:45,514 Speaker 1: No one's really doing that, and all of a sudden, 333 00:16:45,514 --> 00:16:47,994 Speaker 1: you've got to hit a hit shoe as a brand. 334 00:16:48,114 --> 00:16:50,114 Speaker 1: So I love these, I want those. 335 00:16:50,394 --> 00:16:52,994 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, yeah, they're a great brand. If interested, we'll 336 00:16:53,034 --> 00:16:55,514 Speaker 3: link them in the show notes. But all in all, 337 00:16:55,594 --> 00:16:58,234 Speaker 3: if you are interested in diffing your toe into this 338 00:16:58,394 --> 00:17:02,474 Speaker 3: trend of the trail sneaker, I would look, I would 339 00:17:02,514 --> 00:17:06,634 Speaker 3: opt out of that big oversized tread footing like a 340 00:17:06,674 --> 00:17:07,394 Speaker 3: new balancellance. 341 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:10,914 Speaker 2: Look, do you ever feel like you sometimes. 342 00:17:10,474 --> 00:17:12,634 Speaker 3: Just get the eck with shoes, Like if you see 343 00:17:12,634 --> 00:17:14,954 Speaker 3: them too much on the streets, you're like, oh, I 344 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,394 Speaker 3: just stop aware of them. It's the oversaturation of the 345 00:17:17,394 --> 00:17:19,874 Speaker 3: new balance and sumbers off for something like the ant 346 00:17:20,154 --> 00:17:20,714 Speaker 3: or a sneaker. 347 00:17:20,914 --> 00:17:23,474 Speaker 1: Sneaker Ina, yeah, go a little left of the mainstream. 348 00:17:23,594 --> 00:17:26,033 Speaker 1: I think that's probably the answer. Something that I've been 349 00:17:26,074 --> 00:17:29,033 Speaker 1: noticing a lot and even writing about lately is the 350 00:17:29,754 --> 00:17:31,914 Speaker 1: it's not so much a trend, more of like a 351 00:17:31,994 --> 00:17:35,474 Speaker 1: styling trick, which is to add one quote unquote wrong 352 00:17:35,594 --> 00:17:38,234 Speaker 1: element to your outfit. So we know about the wrong 353 00:17:38,274 --> 00:17:41,954 Speaker 1: shoe theory, right, which is essentially about adding something that 354 00:17:42,074 --> 00:17:45,273 Speaker 1: feels visually a bit wrong to offset your outfits. So 355 00:17:45,354 --> 00:17:47,594 Speaker 1: it's not all kind of streamlined, and in one that 356 00:17:47,674 --> 00:17:51,314 Speaker 1: it might kind of mix genres. You might apply something 357 00:17:51,354 --> 00:17:54,874 Speaker 1: that just feels off, but in an intentional way. And 358 00:17:54,914 --> 00:17:57,394 Speaker 1: I think you can really use sneakers or shoes to 359 00:17:57,754 --> 00:18:00,114 Speaker 1: apply that concept to your look. And that's where like 360 00:18:00,274 --> 00:18:02,674 Speaker 1: you've even done that today with the Salomon, you know, 361 00:18:02,714 --> 00:18:05,794 Speaker 1: but you've got a feminine top on rather than choosing 362 00:18:05,874 --> 00:18:08,354 Speaker 1: something dainty that might work back with the top. 363 00:18:08,594 --> 00:18:11,754 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love that. I think I do that subconsciously, 364 00:18:11,874 --> 00:18:14,754 Speaker 3: like the shoe. The sneaker is the anchor of my outfits. 365 00:18:14,834 --> 00:18:17,194 Speaker 3: So last night I knew I'd be wearing the Solomons, 366 00:18:17,234 --> 00:18:19,874 Speaker 3: but it was this morning it was that was the 367 00:18:19,874 --> 00:18:22,513 Speaker 3: focal point of my outfit. I grabbed the jeans, I 368 00:18:22,554 --> 00:18:24,793 Speaker 3: grabbed this top out of the dirty washing basket, and 369 00:18:24,914 --> 00:18:27,514 Speaker 3: ran like it wasn't it didn't really matter. The rest 370 00:18:27,674 --> 00:18:30,513 Speaker 3: felt irrelevant to me. He started with the shoe, started 371 00:18:30,514 --> 00:18:31,194 Speaker 3: with the shoe. 372 00:18:31,514 --> 00:18:33,634 Speaker 1: After the break, we're gonna have a chat about the 373 00:18:33,674 --> 00:18:36,874 Speaker 1: sneaker economy and how that influences everything we wear. And 374 00:18:36,914 --> 00:18:39,793 Speaker 1: then if you're not a sneakerhead like Lucy Inner, and 375 00:18:39,834 --> 00:18:43,074 Speaker 1: if you're looking for alternatives to wear on your feet 376 00:18:43,114 --> 00:18:45,594 Speaker 1: like me, don't worry. We've got you covered with heaps 377 00:18:45,594 --> 00:18:48,474 Speaker 1: of options for the upcoming autumn winter season. So stay 378 00:18:48,474 --> 00:18:48,954 Speaker 1: tuned for. 379 00:18:48,914 --> 00:18:59,073 Speaker 2: That, all right. 380 00:18:59,234 --> 00:19:01,274 Speaker 3: So I would love us to have a little peek 381 00:19:01,314 --> 00:19:04,714 Speaker 3: inside the sneaker economy. I won't spend too much time 382 00:19:04,754 --> 00:19:07,513 Speaker 3: on this, just in case all those people's in, but 383 00:19:07,634 --> 00:19:08,314 Speaker 3: it's quite. 384 00:19:08,194 --> 00:19:09,074 Speaker 1: You get a nerd out. 385 00:19:09,554 --> 00:19:13,274 Speaker 3: Basically, he's so fascinating, And just to sort of sum 386 00:19:13,274 --> 00:19:15,434 Speaker 3: it up with a couple of key points that I 387 00:19:15,554 --> 00:19:19,594 Speaker 3: find incredible and remarkable, there is a two point two 388 00:19:19,754 --> 00:19:22,874 Speaker 3: million dollar pair of sneakers out there. Admittedly it is 389 00:19:22,914 --> 00:19:25,793 Speaker 3: the Michael Air Jordan game shoe, so it's almost a 390 00:19:25,794 --> 00:19:28,074 Speaker 3: little it's cheating it a little way because it's almost 391 00:19:28,114 --> 00:19:29,954 Speaker 3: a piece of art. Right, someone's got this in a 392 00:19:29,954 --> 00:19:31,674 Speaker 3: clear box on display. 393 00:19:31,914 --> 00:19:32,634 Speaker 1: They're not wearing that. 394 00:19:32,754 --> 00:19:33,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not wearing that. 395 00:19:33,914 --> 00:19:35,474 Speaker 1: So what is it about this shoe that makes it 396 00:19:35,514 --> 00:19:36,234 Speaker 1: so valuable? 397 00:19:36,354 --> 00:19:40,033 Speaker 3: This particular one was a Michael Jordan air game shoe 398 00:19:40,034 --> 00:19:43,714 Speaker 3: that he wore right sae. So, but putting that one aside, 399 00:19:44,194 --> 00:19:46,434 Speaker 3: there are shoes out there which I almost relate a 400 00:19:46,434 --> 00:19:50,074 Speaker 3: little bit to, like the Ermez Burken. So there's a 401 00:19:50,154 --> 00:19:52,954 Speaker 3: Nike Moonshoe out there for four hundred and thirty seven 402 00:19:52,994 --> 00:19:56,354 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. There are some Burkeens out there, one off 403 00:19:56,554 --> 00:19:58,394 Speaker 3: the rarity of them that can. 404 00:19:58,194 --> 00:19:59,114 Speaker 2: Get to that price. 405 00:19:59,234 --> 00:20:01,994 Speaker 1: And you mean that's at retail. That's not like someone's 406 00:20:02,074 --> 00:20:03,874 Speaker 1: valued it at that. It's like, you can still buy 407 00:20:03,914 --> 00:20:06,034 Speaker 1: the sneaker for four hundred thousand dollars. 408 00:20:06,154 --> 00:20:09,354 Speaker 3: So this one is on the stock x for that price. 409 00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:11,513 Speaker 3: In terms of how much a sneaker can get to, 410 00:20:11,754 --> 00:20:14,634 Speaker 3: people are still paying two hundred thousand dollars four pairs 411 00:20:14,674 --> 00:20:17,474 Speaker 3: of shoes with that rarity on the market. And that 412 00:20:17,514 --> 00:20:20,234 Speaker 3: can come down to whether it be a collaboration with 413 00:20:20,274 --> 00:20:23,674 Speaker 3: a particular celebrity or a brand as well. So a 414 00:20:23,714 --> 00:20:27,634 Speaker 3: couple of brands and luxury brands love partnering with sneakers, 415 00:20:27,954 --> 00:20:30,834 Speaker 3: so Gucci and added Us for example, we know Molly 416 00:20:30,954 --> 00:20:32,994 Speaker 3: may is coming out with her own collection of Added 417 00:20:33,034 --> 00:20:35,954 Speaker 3: Our sombers in what the Macha or. 418 00:20:35,874 --> 00:20:41,714 Speaker 2: The Latte color? So her coated Jill Sander with the 419 00:20:41,754 --> 00:20:42,714 Speaker 2: Puma King sneaker. 420 00:20:42,754 --> 00:20:43,434 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. 421 00:20:43,514 --> 00:20:47,274 Speaker 3: I loved your sand I thought you'd seen. Yeah, they're 422 00:20:47,354 --> 00:20:50,794 Speaker 3: very big woolen sheep and neutral colors. And then the 423 00:20:50,914 --> 00:20:55,513 Speaker 3: Nike Jakamu's Moon shoe and these sort of brands they 424 00:20:55,594 --> 00:20:59,994 Speaker 3: become these shoes become collectible items, and so many famous 425 00:21:00,034 --> 00:21:04,754 Speaker 3: celebrities collected these beautiful shoes. One including and worth noting 426 00:21:04,834 --> 00:21:08,513 Speaker 3: is Kylie Jenner, right, really, so her collection is valued 427 00:21:08,554 --> 00:21:11,674 Speaker 3: at approximately five hundred to seven hundred and fifty thousand 428 00:21:11,674 --> 00:21:12,954 Speaker 3: dollars and she's got. 429 00:21:13,194 --> 00:21:15,114 Speaker 1: Like three pairs of shoes right. Well. 430 00:21:16,354 --> 00:21:18,553 Speaker 3: The funny thing I find about this because it often 431 00:21:18,714 --> 00:21:22,834 Speaker 3: is male collectors. So it's nice seeing a young woman 432 00:21:22,914 --> 00:21:25,354 Speaker 3: collecting shoes. But she's got a whole collection of both 433 00:21:25,434 --> 00:21:28,073 Speaker 3: male and female shoes, which I find really interesting. So 434 00:21:28,194 --> 00:21:31,794 Speaker 3: never any intention of wearing the male sneakers, but wants 435 00:21:31,794 --> 00:21:33,033 Speaker 3: them as a collectible item. 436 00:21:33,314 --> 00:21:35,394 Speaker 1: That is interesting. I wonder if that's something she did 437 00:21:35,434 --> 00:21:37,834 Speaker 1: more in her youth, because now I feel like she 438 00:21:37,874 --> 00:21:41,554 Speaker 1: showcases her like bag collection a lot, and you see 439 00:21:41,554 --> 00:21:44,554 Speaker 1: glimpses into her wardrobe on her socials, but I've never 440 00:21:44,594 --> 00:21:47,513 Speaker 1: seen her if it's going to dedicate content to her 441 00:21:47,514 --> 00:21:50,154 Speaker 1: sneaker collection. Is it in some vaults somewhere else? Was 442 00:21:50,194 --> 00:21:51,914 Speaker 1: that something she started because she used to wear like 443 00:21:51,994 --> 00:21:54,474 Speaker 1: high tops and things when she was blue hair? Yeah, 444 00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:57,634 Speaker 1: that king Kylie era, And I wonder if that's like 445 00:21:57,674 --> 00:22:00,714 Speaker 1: a relic of past Kylie. But it's such a good investment, 446 00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:04,594 Speaker 1: it's a financial decision. Or maybe if it's something she's 447 00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:06,554 Speaker 1: continued more into her adulthood. 448 00:22:07,114 --> 00:22:08,793 Speaker 2: I bet Timothy Shalla mate would love that. 449 00:22:08,874 --> 00:22:11,954 Speaker 1: Oh my god, tim are they He just lurks in 450 00:22:12,154 --> 00:22:15,154 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna wear these oscars. Yeah, But it's funny, 451 00:22:15,194 --> 00:22:17,954 Speaker 1: like if they're the same shoes, maybe that doesn't matter. 452 00:22:18,634 --> 00:22:20,314 Speaker 2: But these like but if. 453 00:22:20,234 --> 00:22:23,033 Speaker 3: You're collecting Burkens and you know these people do all 454 00:22:23,074 --> 00:22:26,513 Speaker 3: bags like you'd always I guess have the intention of 455 00:22:26,634 --> 00:22:29,553 Speaker 3: maybe wearing them a one off to some gala or something. 456 00:22:29,634 --> 00:22:32,714 Speaker 3: But to be collecting things at that value and no 457 00:22:32,834 --> 00:22:35,874 Speaker 3: intention of wearing them I find really interesting. But yeah, 458 00:22:35,914 --> 00:22:37,554 Speaker 3: I do find all in all, it's just a really 459 00:22:37,554 --> 00:22:41,194 Speaker 3: interesting look at something that was created out of a subculture. 460 00:22:42,274 --> 00:22:45,634 Speaker 3: If you want more information on sneakers, there's two really 461 00:22:45,634 --> 00:22:48,074 Speaker 3: great books that will link in the show notes. It's 462 00:22:48,114 --> 00:22:50,794 Speaker 3: Sneakers Fashion Gendering, Subculture and Sneconomics. 463 00:22:50,834 --> 00:22:51,434 Speaker 2: I'll leave it there. 464 00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:53,834 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you got a chance to talk about 465 00:22:53,834 --> 00:22:55,514 Speaker 1: your sneaker fetishes. 466 00:22:55,594 --> 00:22:59,274 Speaker 3: But like you said at the top of the episode, Tam, 467 00:22:59,554 --> 00:23:04,274 Speaker 3: there is a slight decline, and I think the overarching 468 00:23:04,514 --> 00:23:07,554 Speaker 3: reason for this is there's so many inroads of newvarieties 469 00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:12,553 Speaker 3: of footwear. There's the Mary Jane's, there's flip flops, there's mules. 470 00:23:13,154 --> 00:23:15,514 Speaker 2: So yes, sneakers are on the decline. 471 00:23:15,674 --> 00:23:19,474 Speaker 3: But stock x, which is like an online marketplace for resale, 472 00:23:20,274 --> 00:23:22,553 Speaker 3: it's not just shoes, it's accessories. 473 00:23:21,994 --> 00:23:22,634 Speaker 2: And stuff as well. 474 00:23:22,634 --> 00:23:26,194 Speaker 3: They're twenty twenty five report showed for the second year 475 00:23:26,314 --> 00:23:30,354 Speaker 3: straight ugs come in first place and crocs come in second. 476 00:23:30,434 --> 00:23:32,114 Speaker 2: They hold the top spots for the. 477 00:23:32,034 --> 00:23:36,394 Speaker 3: Best selling brands, and then what's rising up the rags 478 00:23:36,474 --> 00:23:38,194 Speaker 3: is Timberland's. 479 00:23:37,754 --> 00:23:43,434 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, These are like shoes for the people, aren't they. 480 00:23:43,634 --> 00:23:48,234 Speaker 1: There's nothing niche about crocs or ugs or Timberland for 481 00:23:48,354 --> 00:23:51,513 Speaker 1: that matter. To me, that just speaks to like what 482 00:23:51,594 --> 00:23:52,994 Speaker 1: the people are really wearing. 483 00:23:53,194 --> 00:23:55,354 Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to hear your thoughts on just other 484 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:58,154 Speaker 3: shoe options. Yes, you're not into sneakers, you know what? 485 00:23:58,234 --> 00:24:01,154 Speaker 1: And I think that makes a lot of It makes 486 00:24:01,194 --> 00:24:02,754 Speaker 1: a lot of sense that the market hasn't more of 487 00:24:02,754 --> 00:24:04,594 Speaker 1: an appetite for that right now, because I think it's 488 00:24:04,634 --> 00:24:06,394 Speaker 1: just this is what I see time and time again 489 00:24:06,714 --> 00:24:10,833 Speaker 1: as a fashion writer an editor. It's literally just the 490 00:24:10,834 --> 00:24:13,674 Speaker 1: pendulum swings back and forth, like as soon as our 491 00:24:13,714 --> 00:24:16,634 Speaker 1: eye gets too used to seeing something, we go the 492 00:24:16,674 --> 00:24:19,034 Speaker 1: other way. We go left when it's been right, and 493 00:24:19,114 --> 00:24:21,793 Speaker 1: vice versa. And so we've seen too much sneaker and 494 00:24:21,834 --> 00:24:24,114 Speaker 1: now we want our eye wants to see something else. 495 00:24:24,154 --> 00:24:26,474 Speaker 1: It's classic. It's a classic. It's you know, when there's 496 00:24:26,554 --> 00:24:29,954 Speaker 1: dopamine dressing and brites, we go to neutrals and minimal 497 00:24:30,194 --> 00:24:32,353 Speaker 1: and then you know, when we got too used to 498 00:24:32,514 --> 00:24:34,594 Speaker 1: what was what was it? Quiet luxury, then we went 499 00:24:34,754 --> 00:24:38,994 Speaker 1: right back to maximalism. Yeah, different things, right, So this 500 00:24:39,154 --> 00:24:42,474 Speaker 1: is just classic, you know, group think behavior. This is 501 00:24:42,514 --> 00:24:45,714 Speaker 1: exactly what fashion does. So, you know, in terms of alternatives, though, 502 00:24:45,754 --> 00:24:48,394 Speaker 1: let's talk on a really practical level. I'm not really 503 00:24:48,434 --> 00:24:51,634 Speaker 1: a sneaker goal like, I have maybe two pairs in 504 00:24:51,714 --> 00:24:55,834 Speaker 1: my wardrobe. So in terms of alternatives, you know, we're 505 00:24:55,834 --> 00:24:59,354 Speaker 1: in we're in February now, we're about to head into autumn, 506 00:24:59,834 --> 00:25:03,793 Speaker 1: which means we're heading into closed in shoe season. So 507 00:25:04,634 --> 00:25:08,114 Speaker 1: let's talk about the styles that are practical but still 508 00:25:08,154 --> 00:25:12,594 Speaker 1: trending for the season ahead. For me, it's ankle boots 509 00:25:12,754 --> 00:25:17,273 Speaker 1: and boots in general. Like, nothing beats a sleek, black 510 00:25:17,434 --> 00:25:20,674 Speaker 1: leather or swede ankle boot in winter in terms of 511 00:25:20,714 --> 00:25:25,074 Speaker 1: wear ability, especially with the return of like this sort 512 00:25:25,074 --> 00:25:28,194 Speaker 1: of cigarette style jean that we're seeing, I just think 513 00:25:28,234 --> 00:25:30,794 Speaker 1: that's such an elegant shoe choice and it's such a 514 00:25:30,794 --> 00:25:34,394 Speaker 1: classic choice that really for me never dates. 515 00:25:34,754 --> 00:25:38,194 Speaker 2: So do you wear your ankle boots tucked into the jeans? 516 00:25:38,234 --> 00:25:42,154 Speaker 1: How I wear them under? Yeah? Yeah, I wear an 517 00:25:42,194 --> 00:25:42,874 Speaker 1: ankle boot. 518 00:25:42,994 --> 00:25:44,954 Speaker 2: Have I ever been an ankle boot? Gal? 519 00:25:46,514 --> 00:25:49,674 Speaker 1: That surprises me. So the other boot trend I'm seeing 520 00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:51,434 Speaker 1: around a bit that I think will come into our 521 00:25:51,474 --> 00:25:54,274 Speaker 1: market is the calf length boot. This is a little 522 00:25:54,314 --> 00:25:57,154 Speaker 1: bit more of a challenging silhouette. I'm only saying that 523 00:25:57,194 --> 00:26:00,474 Speaker 1: because I think like the intention of a calf length 524 00:26:00,514 --> 00:26:04,554 Speaker 1: boot you kind of got too sort of tribes here. 525 00:26:04,914 --> 00:26:07,034 Speaker 1: For me. One is like you're wearing them to a festival. 526 00:26:07,474 --> 00:26:10,434 Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's what I conjure up with a calf 527 00:26:10,514 --> 00:26:12,754 Speaker 1: length boot, you know that is I think there's a 528 00:26:12,754 --> 00:26:15,914 Speaker 1: brand called Fry, and there's a brand called Hunter, and 529 00:26:15,954 --> 00:26:20,394 Speaker 1: they do like the you know, traditional Willington boot. Yes, 530 00:26:20,794 --> 00:26:24,074 Speaker 1: or you're a real fashion girl and you're wearing them 531 00:26:24,114 --> 00:26:27,754 Speaker 1: with like what we're calling an awkward length skirt. Yeah, 532 00:26:27,914 --> 00:26:30,234 Speaker 1: so that skirt that sort of comes to them to 533 00:26:30,274 --> 00:26:33,354 Speaker 1: the knee, and then you're putting the boot, the calf 534 00:26:33,434 --> 00:26:37,154 Speaker 1: length boot with it to sort of intentionally create a 535 00:26:37,234 --> 00:26:39,434 Speaker 1: quite directional silhouette in your out. 536 00:26:39,674 --> 00:26:42,074 Speaker 2: I love the car challenge. I love it. 537 00:26:42,354 --> 00:26:44,674 Speaker 3: I actually did a TikTok the other day on trends 538 00:26:44,714 --> 00:26:47,914 Speaker 3: We'll be seeing in Autumn, and it was the it's 539 00:26:47,954 --> 00:26:50,914 Speaker 3: the jeans almost like jeans or pans, I should say, 540 00:26:50,994 --> 00:26:54,954 Speaker 3: trousers with the car the boot over the top almost 541 00:26:55,154 --> 00:26:57,354 Speaker 3: like that Hunter boot, like a gum boot. 542 00:26:57,594 --> 00:26:59,834 Speaker 2: But then there's like you put it above or over 543 00:26:59,834 --> 00:27:00,834 Speaker 2: the top of the pants. 544 00:27:00,874 --> 00:27:01,553 Speaker 1: Would you do that? 545 00:27:01,834 --> 00:27:02,354 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. 546 00:27:02,394 --> 00:27:05,474 Speaker 3: Well, it's almost like a country like a shooting esque vibe. 547 00:27:05,714 --> 00:27:07,154 Speaker 1: Yes, it is very ten. 548 00:27:09,274 --> 00:27:11,554 Speaker 2: With an oversized blaser as well, like, yeah. 549 00:27:11,794 --> 00:27:17,194 Speaker 3: It's quite round Florine princesses seeing this a little bit more. Yeah, 550 00:27:17,194 --> 00:27:19,954 Speaker 3: it doesn't have to go so like country squ It 551 00:27:19,994 --> 00:27:22,594 Speaker 3: could be like I've seen it still like something the 552 00:27:22,594 --> 00:27:24,274 Speaker 3: Samana in the city to the urban. 553 00:27:25,154 --> 00:27:27,474 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the awkward length skirt, which is, like 554 00:27:27,514 --> 00:27:30,434 Speaker 1: I said, a little bit more challenging. I would do 555 00:27:30,874 --> 00:27:33,754 Speaker 1: a midi skirt over the top of a calf length boot, 556 00:27:34,034 --> 00:27:36,033 Speaker 1: potentially a boot with a bit of shrug in it, 557 00:27:36,554 --> 00:27:38,354 Speaker 1: you know, like a suede boot that's got a bit 558 00:27:38,394 --> 00:27:41,194 Speaker 1: of that extra shrug, so that you're kind of getting 559 00:27:41,194 --> 00:27:43,554 Speaker 1: the interplay of the different textures. Perhaps you've got like 560 00:27:43,594 --> 00:27:46,074 Speaker 1: a textured skirt or a sheer you know back with 561 00:27:46,714 --> 00:27:48,714 Speaker 1: or a longer denim skirt or something back with a 562 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,794 Speaker 1: swede boot. Could be really really cool. 563 00:27:50,914 --> 00:27:51,314 Speaker 2: Love this. 564 00:27:51,634 --> 00:27:55,634 Speaker 1: And then in terms of other alternative footwear to sneakers, 565 00:27:55,354 --> 00:27:58,074 Speaker 1: I still feel like we're in our like what I'm 566 00:27:58,114 --> 00:28:02,714 Speaker 1: calling our fancy flat era, particularly in our market in Australia, 567 00:28:02,754 --> 00:28:05,474 Speaker 1: we really responded to the trend for like mesh and 568 00:28:05,554 --> 00:28:11,073 Speaker 1: woven flats every brand footwear brands but also just like 569 00:28:11,354 --> 00:28:15,194 Speaker 1: Australian designers offer woven flats and I think they're quite 570 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:18,353 Speaker 1: a good trand seasonal shoe because you still get that 571 00:28:18,474 --> 00:28:20,794 Speaker 1: coverage on the front of your foot, but it's breathable. 572 00:28:21,034 --> 00:28:23,553 Speaker 1: Right for our autumn winter where you know we're not 573 00:28:23,634 --> 00:28:26,314 Speaker 1: in New York or London, like we don't need necessarily 574 00:28:26,394 --> 00:28:29,033 Speaker 1: to be wearing socks under our under our closed in 575 00:28:29,074 --> 00:28:31,114 Speaker 1: shoes until the dead of winter. 576 00:28:31,474 --> 00:28:34,154 Speaker 3: Do you find that's almostly adjacent to the sticker, like 577 00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:36,994 Speaker 3: that is the focal point of an outfit, the mash 578 00:28:37,114 --> 00:28:37,674 Speaker 3: or like those. 579 00:28:37,834 --> 00:28:40,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives a little point of interest, right, So 580 00:28:40,754 --> 00:28:44,194 Speaker 1: just to recap a few sneaker alternatives coming into the 581 00:28:44,234 --> 00:28:46,314 Speaker 1: new season, we're going to see the return of ankle 582 00:28:46,354 --> 00:28:50,034 Speaker 1: boots and definitely this calf length boot which we love 583 00:28:50,434 --> 00:28:52,514 Speaker 1: that you can definitely still get a lot of wear 584 00:28:52,594 --> 00:28:55,834 Speaker 1: out of ballet flats. I'm seeing healed flat. I didn't 585 00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:58,474 Speaker 1: mention healed ballet flats or a trend we're going to see. 586 00:28:58,994 --> 00:29:02,354 Speaker 1: And then your sort of woven and mesh flats are 587 00:29:02,354 --> 00:29:05,514 Speaker 1: going to continue to trend, and they're a really really 588 00:29:05,554 --> 00:29:08,314 Speaker 1: great alternative coming into all in winter when we're still 589 00:29:08,314 --> 00:29:10,994 Speaker 1: potentially doing backless shoes and things like that. So yeah, 590 00:29:11,034 --> 00:29:24,954 Speaker 1: plenty of plenty on offer. It's very expensive. 591 00:29:25,794 --> 00:29:30,234 Speaker 3: How wondred the percent hearing about the alternatives? I am 592 00:29:30,274 --> 00:29:31,874 Speaker 3: excited to hear about your shoe Rex. 593 00:29:32,074 --> 00:29:33,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what have you got from me town? Let's 594 00:29:33,594 --> 00:29:34,474 Speaker 2: start with Bougie. 595 00:29:34,674 --> 00:29:37,714 Speaker 1: Okay, So for Bougie, I'm not sure if you've heard 596 00:29:37,714 --> 00:29:41,634 Speaker 1: of the Spanish brand Alohas No. So they Yes, they're 597 00:29:41,634 --> 00:29:45,554 Speaker 1: a Spanish design and made brand, and they really offer 598 00:29:46,074 --> 00:29:48,554 Speaker 1: shoes with a point of difference. It's again one of 599 00:29:48,554 --> 00:29:51,274 Speaker 1: those if you know, you know type brands. They have 600 00:29:52,074 --> 00:29:57,194 Speaker 1: really luxe swede sneakers, ballet flats and boots, and I 601 00:29:57,234 --> 00:29:59,314 Speaker 1: feel like it's one of those brands that I can 602 00:29:59,354 --> 00:30:02,434 Speaker 1: see through my screen the quality and it's like, yeah, 603 00:30:02,474 --> 00:30:05,474 Speaker 1: it's I wouldn't say it's like a fashion girly kind 604 00:30:05,474 --> 00:30:08,314 Speaker 1: of brand. It's just like they're just go shoes that 605 00:30:08,394 --> 00:30:12,234 Speaker 1: are worth worth the money. So I love the sneakers. 606 00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:14,554 Speaker 1: If I'm buying sneakers, I'd go to this brand. They're 607 00:30:14,594 --> 00:30:17,234 Speaker 1: really colorful and fun. But my pick for the Autom 608 00:30:17,274 --> 00:30:21,114 Speaker 1: winter season is a boot. It's the amber riffed black 609 00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:24,954 Speaker 1: leather ankle boot. It's this sleek, pointed toe ankle boot 610 00:30:25,234 --> 00:30:27,794 Speaker 1: in black leather, and it's got this small kitten heel. 611 00:30:27,914 --> 00:30:31,714 Speaker 1: Beautiful and it also comes in brown Swede and burgundy 612 00:30:31,794 --> 00:30:34,634 Speaker 1: swede ye, so gorgeous. 613 00:30:34,714 --> 00:30:37,434 Speaker 3: That's still a color coming through, isn't it. Like I have, 614 00:30:37,474 --> 00:30:40,234 Speaker 3: I've been looking around Burgundy I felt would be left 615 00:30:40,234 --> 00:30:42,354 Speaker 3: in last season, but I'm seeing it still pretty relevant. 616 00:30:42,434 --> 00:30:43,114 Speaker 2: It's still around. 617 00:30:43,114 --> 00:30:45,994 Speaker 1: Definitely is an alternative to that mocker and brown color. 618 00:30:45,994 --> 00:30:48,794 Speaker 1: It still offers that sort of wintry tones. Yeah. So 619 00:30:48,834 --> 00:30:50,994 Speaker 1: these shoes are four hundred and eighty dollars, so they're 620 00:30:51,034 --> 00:30:53,914 Speaker 1: certainly an investment. But a black leather ankle boot, like 621 00:30:53,914 --> 00:30:55,994 Speaker 1: I said on the record, I think you're going to 622 00:30:56,034 --> 00:30:57,434 Speaker 1: get years of wear out of there. 623 00:30:57,474 --> 00:30:59,994 Speaker 3: It's beautiful for that price. It's actually pretty good for 624 00:31:00,034 --> 00:31:01,314 Speaker 3: a leather boot, isn't it. 625 00:31:01,474 --> 00:31:05,434 Speaker 1: I mean they're so well made. Yeah, so yeah, what's 626 00:31:05,514 --> 00:31:06,354 Speaker 1: your booty? 627 00:31:06,394 --> 00:31:09,154 Speaker 3: Well is also a brand I'm not sure if you've 628 00:31:09,154 --> 00:31:10,754 Speaker 3: heard of. It's Viveya. 629 00:31:11,554 --> 00:31:14,354 Speaker 1: I have heard, but I'm not shopped from. Yeah. 630 00:31:14,634 --> 00:31:15,154 Speaker 2: Interesting. 631 00:31:15,274 --> 00:31:18,074 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like the cool fashiony girl 632 00:31:18,554 --> 00:31:22,554 Speaker 3: brand just yet, but they create and by looking at 633 00:31:22,594 --> 00:31:24,674 Speaker 3: them as well, I feel like they're really good quality shoes. 634 00:31:24,754 --> 00:31:28,114 Speaker 3: They do a square toe sneak arena shoe and Dua 635 00:31:28,194 --> 00:31:31,914 Speaker 3: Leaf was actually spotted in one very similar, similar brand, 636 00:31:31,914 --> 00:31:35,194 Speaker 3: not quite this one, but if you love the very feminine, 637 00:31:35,234 --> 00:31:38,394 Speaker 3: like the satin style square toe actually kind of looks 638 00:31:38,434 --> 00:31:40,554 Speaker 3: like a ballet point, so it's leaning more on the 639 00:31:40,594 --> 00:31:41,954 Speaker 3: ballet shoe. 640 00:31:42,394 --> 00:31:44,514 Speaker 2: And you can customize them as well, which is really cool. 641 00:31:44,994 --> 00:31:49,034 Speaker 3: Choose the color. So the color of the satin like 642 00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:51,354 Speaker 3: the ballet flat, so it could either be like a cream. 643 00:31:51,394 --> 00:31:53,554 Speaker 3: They've got the burgundy as well, which I really like. 644 00:31:53,714 --> 00:31:56,234 Speaker 3: But you can choose the satin ribbon so it has 645 00:31:56,274 --> 00:31:59,154 Speaker 3: got that classic ballerina ribbon that you do up the 646 00:31:59,234 --> 00:32:01,394 Speaker 3: calf and you can choose the color of that as well. 647 00:32:01,554 --> 00:32:03,794 Speaker 1: Oh, you can actually thread the ribbon around your calf. 648 00:32:03,874 --> 00:32:06,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like a ballet shoe, so they're just there. 649 00:32:07,314 --> 00:32:11,354 Speaker 3: It's very ballet core. Yeah, it's trendy. Are they going 650 00:32:11,434 --> 00:32:13,234 Speaker 3: to be around in a couple of seasons? Probably not, 651 00:32:13,434 --> 00:32:16,154 Speaker 3: But for the price of it, so it is my bougie, 652 00:32:16,154 --> 00:32:18,354 Speaker 3: but it's two hundred and sixty eight dollars, so it's 653 00:32:18,394 --> 00:32:23,714 Speaker 3: not it's too excessive. But they look really beautiful, well made. 654 00:32:24,154 --> 00:32:26,354 Speaker 3: If you're looking for something different and it's playing in 655 00:32:26,354 --> 00:32:29,874 Speaker 3: that feminine streamline, look, I'll give these ones a go love. 656 00:32:30,234 --> 00:32:32,514 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'll try them in the burgundy. 657 00:32:32,794 --> 00:32:36,474 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So for budget I mentioned earlier, I found 658 00:32:36,554 --> 00:32:39,434 Speaker 1: a great trans seasonal shoe for people who are allergic 659 00:32:39,474 --> 00:32:42,234 Speaker 1: to close in shoes like me. So this is a 660 00:32:42,314 --> 00:32:47,794 Speaker 1: suede and woven mesh backless mule in a torp color, 661 00:32:48,154 --> 00:32:50,474 Speaker 1: which is a color I'm really responding to right now. 662 00:32:50,514 --> 00:32:54,234 Speaker 1: It's like mushroomy torpie color, which reads to me like 663 00:32:54,314 --> 00:32:57,554 Speaker 1: wintery but not it's not black, yeah, right, or gray 664 00:32:58,554 --> 00:33:01,234 Speaker 1: or classic chocolate brown exactly. Yeah, which I still love 665 00:33:01,314 --> 00:33:03,554 Speaker 1: chocolate brown, but sometimes I want something a bit lighter 666 00:33:03,874 --> 00:33:04,514 Speaker 1: on my feet. 667 00:33:04,754 --> 00:33:05,234 Speaker 2: Yeah. 668 00:33:05,434 --> 00:33:08,074 Speaker 1: So this is like a barely their shoe that I 669 00:33:08,114 --> 00:33:10,474 Speaker 1: know i'd wear, of a lot that I know I 670 00:33:10,634 --> 00:33:14,194 Speaker 1: wear a lot in autumn, and it's a mule shape, 671 00:33:14,234 --> 00:33:17,794 Speaker 1: which is again just a I wear mules constantly, and 672 00:33:18,074 --> 00:33:20,194 Speaker 1: I feel like this shade is also really great back 673 00:33:20,194 --> 00:33:22,794 Speaker 1: with Denim, which is just I live in Denim in autumn, 674 00:33:23,434 --> 00:33:26,554 Speaker 1: so where is it from? So the shoe is from 675 00:33:26,714 --> 00:33:30,754 Speaker 1: Seed and it's the Maali Mesh Mule and it's one 676 00:33:30,794 --> 00:33:32,874 Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine ninety five beautiful. 677 00:33:32,954 --> 00:33:34,794 Speaker 2: I love that. I love Twarf as well. 678 00:33:34,954 --> 00:33:37,194 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's beautiful. I'm really going to buy these. 679 00:33:37,314 --> 00:33:39,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I actually think I'm really going to buy 680 00:33:39,234 --> 00:33:41,314 Speaker 2: my budget as well, which is a mule. 681 00:33:41,674 --> 00:33:43,554 Speaker 3: And I almost wanted to talk about meals today, but 682 00:33:43,554 --> 00:33:45,994 Speaker 3: I feel like if it's another episode with it itself, 683 00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:47,594 Speaker 3: because I feel like they're really. 684 00:33:47,394 --> 00:33:48,274 Speaker 2: Relevant and trendy. 685 00:33:48,354 --> 00:33:48,674 Speaker 1: They are. 686 00:33:48,754 --> 00:33:51,114 Speaker 2: I do love a mule, and there's a hybrid. 687 00:33:51,194 --> 00:33:53,554 Speaker 3: So my budget for one hundred and nineteen dollars is 688 00:33:53,674 --> 00:33:55,634 Speaker 3: a Charles and Keith. 689 00:33:55,674 --> 00:33:57,034 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, mine's Tworf as well. 690 00:33:57,114 --> 00:33:59,194 Speaker 1: No, can I tell you these. I just looked at 691 00:33:59,194 --> 00:34:02,034 Speaker 1: the door at our document and I had these as 692 00:34:02,114 --> 00:34:05,794 Speaker 1: my backup, no way budget option. We're looking at the 693 00:34:05,794 --> 00:34:07,994 Speaker 1: exact same shoe. It's meant to be. 694 00:34:08,234 --> 00:34:08,794 Speaker 2: I love that. 695 00:34:08,913 --> 00:34:10,834 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we should get these because it's I love 696 00:34:11,074 --> 00:34:13,633 Speaker 3: Charles and Keith for one, I love talk, we love 697 00:34:13,913 --> 00:34:18,473 Speaker 3: and a mule. Mine's a hybrid of a sneaker esque 698 00:34:18,594 --> 00:34:22,274 Speaker 3: mule and I yeah, just again, I love a mule, 699 00:34:22,474 --> 00:34:24,314 Speaker 3: but I also love the look of a sneaker, so 700 00:34:24,314 --> 00:34:26,394 Speaker 3: you get both best of both worlds. 701 00:34:26,474 --> 00:34:29,194 Speaker 1: So it's essentially a backless sneaker, which we're. 702 00:34:28,994 --> 00:34:29,754 Speaker 2: Seeing a lot of. 703 00:34:30,034 --> 00:34:32,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, New Balance of a really they've collaborated with Mew 704 00:34:32,634 --> 00:34:35,194 Speaker 3: Mew and not a really nice backless Now I would 705 00:34:35,194 --> 00:34:38,314 Speaker 3: buy those, and they look amazing. That's very much an 706 00:34:38,354 --> 00:34:40,714 Speaker 3: example of hot and demand. They're always ceiling out. Yeah, 707 00:34:40,754 --> 00:34:41,714 Speaker 3: that's so hard to get. 708 00:34:41,754 --> 00:34:43,953 Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about Mew Mew. I mean, oh 709 00:34:44,074 --> 00:34:46,474 Speaker 1: that's again. We could devote a whole another half an 710 00:34:46,514 --> 00:34:46,994 Speaker 1: hour to that. 711 00:34:47,154 --> 00:34:51,714 Speaker 3: But yeah, they're Newmews, those sneakers with the New Balance collaboration, 712 00:34:51,754 --> 00:34:54,154 Speaker 3: they're constantly sailing out the relevancy of them. 713 00:34:54,154 --> 00:34:56,354 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Yeah, so many people have them. 714 00:34:56,434 --> 00:34:59,754 Speaker 3: Let's probably give it another six months and then it'll probably. 715 00:34:59,794 --> 00:35:01,794 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we're seeing a lot of dupes, aren't 716 00:35:01,834 --> 00:35:05,034 Speaker 1: we now Yeah, yeah, and these might be in that category, 717 00:35:05,074 --> 00:35:05,674 Speaker 1: but that's okay. 718 00:35:05,994 --> 00:35:09,434 Speaker 3: And the this style, yeah, it's just non branded. You 719 00:35:09,474 --> 00:35:12,354 Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily know it's so it just looks like a 720 00:35:12,394 --> 00:35:16,074 Speaker 3: really nice brown torp Swede sneaker and then you've got 721 00:35:16,074 --> 00:35:20,354 Speaker 3: that comfortability of the and differentiation of a mule as well, 722 00:35:20,634 --> 00:35:23,434 Speaker 3: which I really like. So those ones are from Charles 723 00:35:23,434 --> 00:35:25,394 Speaker 3: and Keith for one hundred and nineteen dollars. 724 00:35:26,194 --> 00:35:28,954 Speaker 1: We love it so many options today, I'm definitely inspired 725 00:35:28,954 --> 00:35:31,154 Speaker 1: to go shoe shopping. Was that the objective of this 726 00:35:31,274 --> 00:35:37,634 Speaker 1: episode always, But that's unfortunately all we have time for today. 727 00:35:37,674 --> 00:35:39,913 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget 728 00:35:39,954 --> 00:35:42,234 Speaker 1: to sign up to our Nothing to Wear newsletter. There's 729 00:35:42,234 --> 00:35:43,794 Speaker 1: a link in the show notes. 730 00:35:43,554 --> 00:35:45,674 Speaker 3: And don't forget to watch us on YouTube and follow 731 00:35:45,754 --> 00:35:47,914 Speaker 3: us on Instagram at Nothing to Wear Pod. 732 00:35:48,154 --> 00:35:48,993 Speaker 2: We'll be back soon. 733 00:35:49,354 --> 00:35:54,154 Speaker 1: Bye, Mamma Mere acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. 734 00:35:54,194 --> 00:35:57,114 Speaker 1: We have recorded this podcast on the Gadighl people of 735 00:35:57,194 --> 00:36:00,434 Speaker 1: the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their elders 736 00:36:00,474 --> 00:36:03,634 Speaker 1: past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal 737 00:36:03,714 --> 00:36:05,514 Speaker 1: and Torres Strait islander cultures.