WEBVTT - From Sheer to Jorts: Trends You’ll Rate Or Hate 0:00:10.745 --> 0:00:15.265 You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 0:00:15.345 --> 0:00:18.385 the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 0:00:18.465 --> 0:00:19.265 is recorded on. 0:00:21.065 --> 0:00:23.865 Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously. 0:00:23.465 --> 0:00:26.425 Disturbed laurels for spring groundbreaking? 0:00:26.705 --> 0:00:28.985 Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 0:00:29.065 --> 0:00:29.785 for fashion. 0:00:30.825 --> 0:00:33.905 Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Air, the podcast that 0:00:33.985 --> 0:00:38.065 solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 0:00:38.185 --> 0:00:40.825 and every week I talk to an expert who helps 0:00:40.905 --> 0:00:42.625 us work out how to get more out of the 0:00:42.625 --> 0:00:45.505 clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is 0:00:45.625 --> 0:00:49.825 and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Fashion moves quickly, 0:00:50.105 --> 0:00:53.225 and it's not just because of fast fashion. From the 0:00:53.305 --> 0:00:56.105 latest trends emerging in the fashion capitals to what the 0:00:56.225 --> 0:00:58.905 quote unquote it girls are wearing on the streets, to 0:00:58.945 --> 0:01:02.945 the subtle ways stylus are shaping the zeitgeist. Big impacts 0:01:02.985 --> 0:01:06.465 often come from small moments. To break down the latest 0:01:06.465 --> 0:01:10.185 fashion news, I've brought back to Mara Holland. Tomara is 0:01:10.225 --> 0:01:13.025 one of the fashion experts here at Mama Maya. She 0:01:13.145 --> 0:01:15.545 co hosted the what Are You Wearing podcast and even 0:01:15.625 --> 0:01:17.785 stepped in for a few weeks of nothing to wear 0:01:17.905 --> 0:01:20.505 while I was away in Europe. Thank you tamp plus, 0:01:20.505 --> 0:01:23.185 she writes the fabulous fashion newsletter that lands in your 0:01:23.185 --> 0:01:27.025 inbox after every episode. Tamara, welcome back to the show. 0:01:27.185 --> 0:01:29.185 It is such a delight to have you on my 0:01:29.305 --> 0:01:31.865 screen and in everyone's ears. Now. I'm not going to 0:01:31.945 --> 0:01:34.345 ask you any personal fashion questions because we've got a 0:01:34.385 --> 0:01:36.545 lot to cover and we're going to turn this into 0:01:36.545 --> 0:01:39.065 a regular thing. So basically, what you and I have 0:01:39.105 --> 0:01:42.105 been chatting about, you know, in our WhatsApp group over 0:01:42.145 --> 0:01:46.505 the month, trends, topics, fashion news. We've each brought two things. 0:01:46.705 --> 0:01:47.825 Let's kick off with your first. 0:01:48.065 --> 0:01:50.305 Yeah, I'm so excited to get into it and give 0:01:50.345 --> 0:01:53.145 the listeners a little taste of our group chat. 0:01:53.225 --> 0:01:54.785 Leeb So let's do it. 0:01:55.105 --> 0:01:56.825 I love it. Let's go. What have you got for me? 0:01:57.225 --> 0:02:00.425 Alexa Chung is everyone's style news again. Kate Moss has 0:02:00.425 --> 0:02:02.825 a collection with Zara. Ciena Miller is all over your 0:02:02.825 --> 0:02:04.905 Instagram Feedly it's twenty ten again. 0:02:05.145 --> 0:02:09.185 What's happening? I know it is like the return of 0:02:09.465 --> 0:02:10.665 the brit Girls. 0:02:11.065 --> 0:02:14.905 I think it is impossible to explain the choke hold 0:02:15.145 --> 0:02:18.345 that these women, these British style icons had on me 0:02:18.505 --> 0:02:21.625 and a whole generation of women, millennial. 0:02:21.185 --> 0:02:23.265 Women specifically, back in the mid. 0:02:23.145 --> 0:02:26.345 Noughties, right, And it's so interesting to me that they're 0:02:26.345 --> 0:02:28.745 all back in the fashion zeitgeist. At the same time, 0:02:28.905 --> 0:02:31.625 it's like the Chung aissants, the Alexa. 0:02:31.345 --> 0:02:32.785 Chung upon us. 0:02:33.585 --> 0:02:34.705 That is very cool. 0:02:35.145 --> 0:02:37.505 When I was a fashion writer back at Grazia magazine 0:02:37.585 --> 0:02:40.905 in the early twenty tens, the amount of stories I 0:02:40.945 --> 0:02:44.265 wrote about Alexa Chung's wardrobe. So to hear now and 0:02:44.305 --> 0:02:46.865 to see all over my socials that you know, people 0:02:46.865 --> 0:02:50.505 are calling it millennial core. So referencing someone like Alexa 0:02:50.585 --> 0:02:53.505 Chung's wardrobe if you're not across her, or maybe you 0:02:53.545 --> 0:02:55.945 are a younger listener and you weren't around to kind 0:02:55.985 --> 0:03:00.105 of reference her wardrobe the first time. She's this iconic 0:03:00.305 --> 0:03:04.345 British TV host model turned TV host who was all 0:03:04.425 --> 0:03:09.265 about this kind of this sort of wayfish British rock 0:03:09.345 --> 0:03:10.985 and rock old girlfriend style. 0:03:11.145 --> 0:03:11.345 Right. 0:03:11.465 --> 0:03:14.185 So my prediction is that we're about to get a 0:03:14.345 --> 0:03:17.705 new reverence for the look that she made iconic, and 0:03:17.745 --> 0:03:20.265 this whole cohort of British it girls made iconic. 0:03:20.345 --> 0:03:21.785 So things like skinny. 0:03:21.465 --> 0:03:26.305 Jeans mallet coming back, aren't they cropped leather jackets, little 0:03:26.345 --> 0:03:28.705 mini dresses with big statement collars. 0:03:28.945 --> 0:03:31.425 Yes, yeah, I remember that so much. It's funny you 0:03:31.465 --> 0:03:33.305 say that because I was a picture editor in a 0:03:33.385 --> 0:03:36.385 magazine when Siena Miller was everywhere and she was the Boho, 0:03:36.545 --> 0:03:39.905 and when she attended the Chloe Show a couple of 0:03:39.985 --> 0:03:41.625 months ago, and when she came out with the Marks 0:03:41.625 --> 0:03:44.945 and Spencer collab, I was a bit like, hang on, 0:03:45.185 --> 0:03:46.585 did I get in a time machine? 0:03:46.785 --> 0:03:47.025 Right? 0:03:47.105 --> 0:03:49.705 Because but it also felt so comforting. And I happened 0:03:49.705 --> 0:03:52.225 to be overseas for work when the Siena Miller Marks 0:03:52.225 --> 0:03:55.265 and Spencer launch hit store, so there was billboards everywhere, 0:03:55.265 --> 0:03:57.225 and I was just like, this feels like home. It's 0:03:57.265 --> 0:03:58.705 like watching reruns of Friends. 0:03:58.785 --> 0:04:00.425 All. That's so true. 0:04:00.465 --> 0:04:00.825 It is. 0:04:00.905 --> 0:04:02.905 It's like our fashion history is coming back, but in 0:04:02.945 --> 0:04:04.985 the not to haunt us. It's like, in the nicest 0:04:05.025 --> 0:04:07.345 way possible, it does feel yeah, comforting. 0:04:07.425 --> 0:04:09.585 I liked that these brands, like particularly Marks and Spencer, 0:04:10.025 --> 0:04:12.305 bringing Sienna back to do that. It's not, you know, 0:04:12.345 --> 0:04:14.225 on a younger version, and she's doing sort of the 0:04:14.305 --> 0:04:16.545 lace in the Boho and the chunky boots and Chloe 0:04:16.665 --> 0:04:18.105 had her at the show as well. So I think 0:04:18.145 --> 0:04:21.425 it's nice. I just don't know if the younger generation, well, 0:04:21.425 --> 0:04:23.425 I guess it's not ironic, but they don't have to 0:04:23.465 --> 0:04:25.705 have experienced it the first time to enjoy it. But 0:04:25.745 --> 0:04:28.545 we're like, wow, this is this is a flashback. 0:04:28.065 --> 0:04:30.105 Back, and you know, talk about a flashback. So do 0:04:30.145 --> 0:04:32.585 you remember when Kate Moss did a collection for top 0:04:32.625 --> 0:04:34.945 Shop back in the day and she modeled in the 0:04:34.945 --> 0:04:36.945 windows of that iconic London top. 0:04:36.745 --> 0:04:39.505 Shop store RP top Shop. It used to be huge. 0:04:39.745 --> 0:04:42.945 But now she's just done a collection for Zara and 0:04:42.985 --> 0:04:46.705 it references her wardrobe and all these iconic Kate Moss looks, 0:04:47.025 --> 0:04:48.945 and so I really do think that we're getting this 0:04:49.065 --> 0:04:51.785 renewed interest in these women. And to your point, they're 0:04:51.785 --> 0:04:54.585 in their forties and fifties and living, you know, they're 0:04:54.585 --> 0:04:57.465 living different lives now, but there's still these eternal muses. 0:04:57.505 --> 0:04:58.825 So I love that that's come back. 0:04:58.905 --> 0:05:01.465 I agree. I love the trend. Gosh, you're observant. Well, 0:05:01.505 --> 0:05:04.345 Mike's pretty I'm not going to say basic, but pretty everywhere. 0:05:04.385 --> 0:05:07.345 But then I realized that everywhere is subjective because my 0:05:07.585 --> 0:05:11.345 algorithms are not your algorithm. Everyone has got a different 0:05:11.705 --> 0:05:15.265 set of whatever meta the and the social media serves them. 0:05:15.305 --> 0:05:17.505 But I've seen all of this in stores and all 0:05:17.505 --> 0:05:20.505 over my Instagram and my Pinterest. I'm obsessed with Pinterest. 0:05:20.545 --> 0:05:22.265 I mean not always have been, but I've gone. 0:05:22.345 --> 0:05:23.665 How good is Pinterest again? 0:05:23.825 --> 0:05:26.025 It's like you forgot that it existed and now you're like, 0:05:26.065 --> 0:05:28.145 oh my god, it's the entire fashion universe. 0:05:28.185 --> 0:05:30.305 In photos, I used to do a lot on my phone, 0:05:30.305 --> 0:05:31.745 but now I'm trying to not be on my phone 0:05:31.745 --> 0:05:33.625 so much around my husband and my son, and so 0:05:33.665 --> 0:05:35.265 I do it on my desktop and you can see 0:05:35.305 --> 0:05:40.785 more anyway, pictures, pretty pictures, more and then I actually 0:05:40.825 --> 0:05:43.545 save them onto a pin instead of screenshotting them, and 0:05:43.585 --> 0:05:45.665 they go into the abyss. So it's great. Anyway, I 0:05:45.745 --> 0:05:48.785 want to bring a sheer first, because she has been, 0:05:49.345 --> 0:05:51.625 you know, in the zeitgeisten all over our Instagram and 0:05:51.625 --> 0:05:53.585 in stores for a while now, but it's not dying 0:05:53.665 --> 0:05:57.465 down for summer, and that is sort of long sleevetops 0:05:57.545 --> 0:05:59.945 or shear shirts, sheer skirts. I'm putting lace into that 0:05:59.945 --> 0:06:02.065 because I'm kind of thinking anything that's sort of see 0:06:02.105 --> 0:06:03.065 through ish, you know. 0:06:03.145 --> 0:06:06.185 That's right. Trans Air of transparency. 0:06:06.265 --> 0:06:09.025 Yeah, embellish skirts with you know, some sort of chuwel 0:06:09.145 --> 0:06:12.985 or sheer. It's everywhere and I'm into it for a 0:06:13.025 --> 0:06:14.865 few reasons, and I wanted to give a few tips. 0:06:14.865 --> 0:06:17.505 So I've bought a bunch of sort of lace skirts 0:06:17.625 --> 0:06:20.625 or even a few sheer skirts. I'm attempting to wear 0:06:20.625 --> 0:06:22.665 one to an event this evening, but I haven't worked 0:06:22.665 --> 0:06:24.865 out what to wear underneath. But I do have some tips. 0:06:24.865 --> 0:06:28.825 So I bought the Lululemon bike shorts. They come in 0:06:28.865 --> 0:06:31.065 a bunch of colors and they they're kind of like, 0:06:31.505 --> 0:06:33.985 they're not the exercise bike shots. They fall onto the 0:06:34.065 --> 0:06:36.545 underwear category on their website. They cover your bump, so 0:06:36.585 --> 0:06:38.705 I bought them in black and sort of a bony color. 0:06:39.025 --> 0:06:41.625 Oh nice, Okay, you need because this is required right 0:06:41.705 --> 0:06:43.385 for the sheer look. You need good underwear. 0:06:43.425 --> 0:06:45.785 You need good underwear unless you're happy with the slip. 0:06:45.785 --> 0:06:47.625 But as Mea taught me, she cut a lot of 0:06:47.625 --> 0:06:49.745 the slips out of hers because of the slip kind 0:06:49.745 --> 0:06:51.865 of made it look a bit cheap and then she's 0:06:51.945 --> 0:06:53.105 kind of crumpy. 0:06:53.385 --> 0:06:56.745 Yeah, Like the look now is to really actually put 0:06:56.945 --> 0:07:00.945 your wear on. Yes, play through the sheer it's like, yeah, 0:07:01.025 --> 0:07:03.265 that's why the undies need to be considered, or by 0:07:03.385 --> 0:07:04.105 shreks to. 0:07:04.145 --> 0:07:06.625 That point, right, And look, that's not for everyone. So 0:07:06.745 --> 0:07:08.985 I found this really great cotton slip. It's from a 0:07:09.025 --> 0:07:12.025 brand called Combono, and it's a cotton slipskirt, but it's 0:07:12.025 --> 0:07:15.025 a mini and it's one hundred percent cotton. So summer 0:07:15.145 --> 0:07:18.785 is hot and sweaty, and oftentimes shears and laces aren't 0:07:19.145 --> 0:07:22.065 natural fibers, so a cotton air is good. Or I 0:07:22.185 --> 0:07:25.225 have done a body suit. The Skim's bodysuits, their classic 0:07:25.225 --> 0:07:28.385 bodysuit is great because it's not cheeky balm. It's not 0:07:28.785 --> 0:07:31.625 cheese string by any means, is still pretty brave if 0:07:31.665 --> 0:07:34.465 you're kind of wearing sheer with the underlook, but there's 0:07:34.745 --> 0:07:37.105 levels of sheer like the lace skirt I've got. The 0:07:37.185 --> 0:07:40.185 lace is quite chunky, there's just gaps, so that's an 0:07:40.225 --> 0:07:42.865 interesting way to do that. And then on top, I 0:07:42.865 --> 0:07:44.865 mean I probably find it easy to wear on top. 0:07:44.905 --> 0:07:47.105 I've got a bunch of sheer shirts with big sort 0:07:47.145 --> 0:07:50.705 of pockets or lace shirts, and so my tip for 0:07:50.745 --> 0:07:53.425 those are or even bodysuits, there's a marks and spencer 0:07:53.505 --> 0:07:56.305 wire free bra that I will die in. I wear 0:07:56.345 --> 0:07:57.785 it every single day. I'm wearing it right now. I 0:07:57.785 --> 0:07:59.385 would flush you. It's just got the M and S 0:07:59.625 --> 0:08:02.305 y free bra. We'll link to it obviously, because it 0:08:02.505 --> 0:08:04.625 gives you support. It's thick enough around tire, but then 0:08:04.665 --> 0:08:07.025 it's got thin straps so it doesn't look like you're 0:08:07.025 --> 0:08:09.985 wearing a sports bar or anything too matronly because I've 0:08:09.985 --> 0:08:12.385 got a large bus. It doesn't push your boobies together, 0:08:12.585 --> 0:08:15.065 because if you're already wearing sheer or lace, I don't 0:08:15.105 --> 0:08:17.385 think you want a lot of cleavage because it's you've 0:08:17.385 --> 0:08:19.305 already kind of ticked that sexy box. 0:08:19.345 --> 0:08:21.985 Do you agree it's about blocking out your outfit, isn't it. 0:08:21.985 --> 0:08:24.025 It's why we're seeing a lot of sheer skirts or 0:08:24.065 --> 0:08:27.505 sheer flare pants back with oversized tops to sort of hide. 0:08:27.545 --> 0:08:30.585 I mean it's in one way, it's hiding the evidence of. 0:08:30.545 --> 0:08:33.465 Your bottom, yes, and I get that, because you don't 0:08:33.465 --> 0:08:36.265 necessarily want to show your whole bum. No, But it's 0:08:36.305 --> 0:08:39.025 also that sort of laying look of you've got the 0:08:39.025 --> 0:08:40.945 texture of the show and then you've got this sort of. 0:08:40.905 --> 0:08:44.025 Block yes, the top, the juxtaposition. So for me, I 0:08:44.105 --> 0:08:45.825 just like that because I don't want cleavage if I'm 0:08:45.865 --> 0:08:47.985 doing sheer up top. And I also love it's just 0:08:48.025 --> 0:08:51.985 the classic bonds crop barlette, thin straps, adjustable, but gives 0:08:52.025 --> 0:08:54.665 you more kind of coverage in the middle area. Well 0:08:54.665 --> 0:08:56.465 obviously link to that too. I think it's a skims 0:08:56.505 --> 0:08:58.185 rip off, but that's so good. Otherwise you can just 0:08:58.225 --> 0:08:59.625 wear a singlet if you don't want to, you know, 0:08:59.705 --> 0:09:02.825 get your tummy out again, depearing on the sheerness of 0:09:02.905 --> 0:09:05.745 the fabric. And exactly to your point, I think you 0:09:05.785 --> 0:09:09.425 need to style it with denim or cotton or something 0:09:09.665 --> 0:09:11.945 a bit more sort of masculine to bring down the 0:09:12.025 --> 0:09:13.825 dressy vibe. So if you've got sheer on the bottom, 0:09:13.865 --> 0:09:15.025 a really cool oversized tea. 0:09:15.265 --> 0:09:16.225 That's what I've been doing. 0:09:16.265 --> 0:09:19.065 I got some lace flares recently from a brand called 0:09:19.105 --> 0:09:22.025 king Axilla. I think that's how you pronounce it. She's 0:09:22.065 --> 0:09:25.305 an Australian design. Well it's an Australian label, I shouldn't say. 0:09:25.505 --> 0:09:28.225 And I'm playing with wearing those with my big oversized teas. 0:09:28.225 --> 0:09:30.705 With the lace flares. It's such a cool day look, 0:09:30.745 --> 0:09:32.345 but it's elevated still, I. 0:09:32.305 --> 0:09:35.705 Agree, and unexpected, that's it. So I always kind of go, Okay, 0:09:35.745 --> 0:09:38.265 my skirt's quite sheer and maybe dressy. I'll wear a 0:09:38.265 --> 0:09:40.985 tea or I'm wearing a lacey top, I'll wear it 0:09:41.025 --> 0:09:43.785 with really baggy jeans. So I unless you are going 0:09:43.825 --> 0:09:46.065 to you know, a cocktail evant, I like that. So 0:09:46.185 --> 0:09:48.385 only one sheer or lace items kind of my rule 0:09:48.385 --> 0:09:51.025 of thumb, and then I oftentimes prefer it with flats 0:09:51.185 --> 0:09:55.105 because the item itself is generally dressy. I love thrifting 0:09:55.145 --> 0:09:58.025 for this trend. So it's so good because you can 0:09:58.105 --> 0:10:02.585 kind of there's always past seasons of lace something that 0:10:02.585 --> 0:10:05.465 you could either alter or modify. For example, this skirt 0:10:05.505 --> 0:10:07.185 that I'm going to wear, it was a full dress 0:10:07.625 --> 0:10:09.585 and I've just cut the top off. It's elasticated at 0:10:09.585 --> 0:10:11.505 the waist and I had a full long sleeve. It's 0:10:11.665 --> 0:10:15.025 very itchy at the jop I cut. Yeah, and I'm 0:10:15.025 --> 0:10:17.265 wearing it from the elasticated and it's kind of golden 0:10:17.425 --> 0:10:19.905 like sparkly. And I'm wearing that with a T shirt. 0:10:19.985 --> 0:10:20.185 Yeah. 0:10:20.185 --> 0:10:21.585 And it was eight dollars. I think. 0:10:21.625 --> 0:10:22.585 So you're so clever. 0:10:22.745 --> 0:10:25.505 I love that you're actually altering the clothes rather, I mean, 0:10:25.625 --> 0:10:27.465 keep these things in the cycle of wear. That's what 0:10:27.505 --> 0:10:29.505 we say. It's a much more sustainable choice if you're 0:10:29.505 --> 0:10:32.465 buying lace. Hey, they used to wear a lot of lace. Yes, 0:10:32.585 --> 0:10:35.545 I don't know, like the nineteen hundreds exactly. 0:10:35.705 --> 0:10:37.625 Look, you're not getting the nineteen hundreds for Viney's. But 0:10:37.865 --> 0:10:40.065 this is just an old show pow dress that someone's sold. 0:10:39.985 --> 0:10:42.025 Maybe the eighties, maybe the nineteen eighties. 0:10:42.105 --> 0:10:44.905 Yes, exactly. When I say altered, I've literally just cut it. 0:10:44.945 --> 0:10:46.585 But I'm wearing it with a baggy tea so you 0:10:46.585 --> 0:10:49.545 won't see what's happening at the waist. I'm in too 0:10:49.785 --> 0:10:56.465 that all right, what else have you got for me? 0:10:56.545 --> 0:11:02.025 My fashion friend, I'm calling this one. My husband is 0:11:02.025 --> 0:11:04.105 a surfer, so he's going to be amused that I'm 0:11:04.185 --> 0:11:05.585 like borrowing from his culture. 0:11:05.745 --> 0:11:08.585 Okay, I like it. We live by the beach, well. 0:11:08.545 --> 0:11:09.025 Yes I do. 0:11:09.065 --> 0:11:13.425 I'm a coast gal, always have been, and this is 0:11:13.465 --> 0:11:15.625 a trend that's been bubbling away for a little while. 0:11:15.665 --> 0:11:15.905 Now. 0:11:16.185 --> 0:11:17.905 I'm calling it surfer chic. 0:11:18.145 --> 0:11:18.505 Okay. 0:11:18.905 --> 0:11:22.345 But the TikTok creator, I'm sure you've heard of her. 0:11:22.545 --> 0:11:25.745 She her name is Alison Bornstein. Yes, she came up 0:11:25.785 --> 0:11:29.065 with the wrong shoe theory and find your three words 0:11:29.105 --> 0:11:31.665 theory about kind of understanding your personal stuff. She's an 0:11:31.705 --> 0:11:36.065 amazing creator. I love Allison. She called this trend quote 0:11:36.145 --> 0:11:39.345 unquote surf and Nephew and surf and Nephew. 0:11:39.465 --> 0:11:41.065 That's going to be everywhere in a minute. 0:11:41.585 --> 0:11:44.025 Well yeah, no, she actually coined it back in July 0:11:44.505 --> 0:11:47.385 for the American summer because she has US based, and 0:11:47.465 --> 0:11:49.385 I'm surprised you didn't catch on in a bigger way. 0:11:49.425 --> 0:11:51.385 I think the trend is called on maybe not the term, 0:11:51.705 --> 0:11:53.705 but the reason she called it that was because remember 0:11:53.705 --> 0:11:56.705 when everyone was referencing the coastal Grandma and then it 0:11:56.745 --> 0:11:59.545 was like the modern Artie Auntie or something like the 0:11:59.705 --> 0:12:01.825 arti Auntie, and this is the surf and Nephew. So 0:12:01.945 --> 0:12:04.865 just to break down what that means, it's about wearing 0:12:04.945 --> 0:12:07.185 things that like a surfy guy might wear out of 0:12:07.265 --> 0:12:10.825 the water. So think like oversized teas, those towel like 0:12:11.065 --> 0:12:14.225 wrap skirts. Yes, oh my god, I'm loving those terry 0:12:14.385 --> 0:12:18.865 toweling shell necklaces, that kind of jewelry. There you go, 0:12:18.985 --> 0:12:22.985 bucket hats, songs. It's very Australian like, it's giving Australian summer. 0:12:23.025 --> 0:12:26.705 So it's not a surprise that it's caught on here. Yeah, okay, yeah, 0:12:26.745 --> 0:12:29.545 So I'm loving this trend because it's very like you said, 0:12:29.585 --> 0:12:32.505 I do live by the coastline, and it's it's easy 0:12:32.545 --> 0:12:34.385 for me to interpret this in a way that works 0:12:34.385 --> 0:12:37.065 for my everyday life. I must just say, that's literally 0:12:37.145 --> 0:12:39.305 what I see you wearing. But how do you suggest 0:12:39.345 --> 0:12:42.145 maybe someone that lives not by the coast they might be, 0:12:42.225 --> 0:12:44.665 you know, in the city. How can we wear that 0:12:45.065 --> 0:12:46.825 to not be like, oh my gosh, did you forget 0:12:46.825 --> 0:12:47.665 that you're not on vacation. 0:12:48.065 --> 0:12:49.225 Yeah, totally, And that's it. 0:12:49.305 --> 0:12:53.865 I think it's about borrowing the vacation pieces and esthetic 0:12:53.945 --> 0:12:57.185 and remixing them into your wardrobeerhaps it's your corporate wardrobe. 0:12:57.185 --> 0:12:58.785 And if that sounds like a lot of a reach, 0:12:58.945 --> 0:13:01.465 I know. But let's take the rap skirt for example. 0:13:01.705 --> 0:13:04.465 So instead of wearing a pencil skirt to the office 0:13:04.665 --> 0:13:08.065 or a structured mini you might take, you know, you 0:13:08.145 --> 0:13:10.665 might consider a rap skirt still gives you that towel 0:13:10.785 --> 0:13:13.185 like feel. Yes, And when I say towel, it's sort 0:13:13.185 --> 0:13:16.745 of like serng printed. Yeah, we're going to see a 0:13:16.785 --> 0:13:17.465 lot of those, I. 0:13:17.385 --> 0:13:19.705 Think they call them. Am I going to butcher this. 0:13:19.705 --> 0:13:22.385 Pereos or they do overseas, which is when I was 0:13:22.425 --> 0:13:24.505 searching for sarongs before I went overseas, I was like, 0:13:24.505 --> 0:13:26.185 no one sells them, and then when I found that word, 0:13:26.185 --> 0:13:29.065 I was like, right. I bought a bunch of skirts, 0:13:29.065 --> 0:13:31.025 well not a bunch of two from Mango, and it's 0:13:31.425 --> 0:13:33.425 looks like it's wrapped, but it zips. 0:13:33.225 --> 0:13:35.305 Up like a normal Yeah, isn't that so clever. 0:13:35.465 --> 0:13:37.025 I'm going to walk to the office and his skirt 0:13:37.025 --> 0:13:37.505 falls off. 0:13:37.625 --> 0:13:38.665 That's right, Well, this is the thing. 0:13:38.705 --> 0:13:40.465 You don't want to maybe flash too much legs, so 0:13:40.505 --> 0:13:42.465 you get one that's pre built. But then you might 0:13:42.465 --> 0:13:46.065 wear that back with a sort of unbuttoned oversized shirt 0:13:46.265 --> 0:13:48.825 or denim shirt off top, or even just a plain 0:13:48.825 --> 0:13:50.905 white tea a wrap skirt with a with a. 0:13:51.105 --> 0:13:51.785 Hint of print. 0:13:51.985 --> 0:13:56.145 And then think with the footwear, referencing beach style footwear. 0:13:56.265 --> 0:13:59.785 So maybe it's a heeled thong. I know that sounds 0:13:59.865 --> 0:14:03.425 like they are everywhere. Yeah, it's a healed thong, Or 0:14:03.465 --> 0:14:05.905 it's a strappy sand or that still is giving that 0:14:05.985 --> 0:14:09.345 kind of beachy foot vacate sort of style. Or maybe 0:14:09.345 --> 0:14:11.585 it's a statement earring that's in the shape of a 0:14:11.625 --> 0:14:12.865 shell yes or something. 0:14:12.745 --> 0:14:14.785 Or even sort of like a woven bag, like I 0:14:14.825 --> 0:14:16.945 feel there everywhere as well, and that feels very beachy. 0:14:16.985 --> 0:14:18.425 But you can definitely do that in the city. 0:14:18.825 --> 0:14:22.025 So some local brands that are tapping into this vibe. 0:14:22.465 --> 0:14:25.305 Zulu and Zephyr is a really good one that has 0:14:25.345 --> 0:14:29.345 that coastal vibe down Nude Lucy one of my favorite 0:14:29.345 --> 0:14:32.345 Australian brands. They do a lot of easy wearing coastal 0:14:32.465 --> 0:14:34.225 inspired piece of Sabo is. 0:14:34.225 --> 0:14:35.785 A really good one online. 0:14:35.945 --> 0:14:38.865 But at the higher end we've seen brands like The 0:14:38.985 --> 0:14:42.545 Row borrow from this sort of surf culture in their 0:14:42.585 --> 0:14:44.825 footwear or that rubber foot where they've done and then 0:14:45.185 --> 0:14:48.785 recently Tory Birch showed a runway collection for summer that 0:14:48.945 --> 0:14:52.105 was totally surf inspired. If you really want to get 0:14:52.105 --> 0:14:54.425 the surfy look, you could just wander into your go 0:14:54.545 --> 0:14:56.905 back to its origins, wander into your local surf shop. 0:14:57.265 --> 0:14:58.425 Why something from Billabong? 0:14:58.905 --> 0:15:02.425 Okay, tam funny you say that I just did when 0:15:02.425 --> 0:15:04.585 the sales are on a surf dive and ski order. 0:15:04.625 --> 0:15:06.585 I haven't looked on surf dive and Ski. I got 0:15:06.585 --> 0:15:08.865 the most amazing swimsuit from Roxy. I got a little 0:15:08.905 --> 0:15:12.465 dress from Billibom that other brand RSVC or something. It 0:15:12.465 --> 0:15:13.625 sounds like a child's coffee. 0:15:13.705 --> 0:15:14.625 See, there you go. 0:15:16.345 --> 0:15:19.465 I honestly surf brands because they also make really great, 0:15:19.465 --> 0:15:23.465 really affordable little cotton dresses. But you know, they're better 0:15:23.545 --> 0:15:25.785 quality than some of the mass you know, really mass brands, 0:15:25.785 --> 0:15:28.265 but they're not expensive. It's sort of your country roads. 0:15:28.465 --> 0:15:29.945 I'm back into the surf shop. 0:15:30.025 --> 0:15:32.025 It's such a big part of our culture as well. 0:15:32.065 --> 0:15:34.505 I love that they're having their moment and their Australian 0:15:34.545 --> 0:15:36.225 made a lot of them come out of there's you 0:15:36.265 --> 0:15:39.865 know Talkie near out near Geelong. Shout out to to Talkie. 0:15:39.945 --> 0:15:42.625 That's where the origins of those surf brands. Yeah, they're 0:15:42.625 --> 0:15:44.385 still going, so it's good to support Aussie. 0:15:44.505 --> 0:15:46.865 Honestly, I could just recommend everyone jump on, you know, 0:15:46.905 --> 0:15:48.625 a surf brand or if you're going away or there's 0:15:48.665 --> 0:15:50.345 a surf shop, because I often don't go in the 0:15:50.345 --> 0:15:52.545 shopping center to the surf shops. I used to, Oh 0:15:52.545 --> 0:15:54.385 my god, Like when I got my first bell Crow wallet, 0:15:54.385 --> 0:15:54.865 I loved it. 0:15:56.105 --> 0:15:58.345 Well, bel Crows back too, So there you go, isn't it. 0:15:58.385 --> 0:16:00.225 But the price is still really good in the quality 0:16:00.265 --> 0:16:03.625 is phenomenal, so don't discount your little surf shop, all right. 0:16:03.665 --> 0:16:05.625 My last one could not be more all over my 0:16:05.625 --> 0:16:08.345 Instagram feed, and that is because I've started to become 0:16:08.465 --> 0:16:13.185 obsessed sol summer. I dipped my toe in a Bermuda short. 0:16:13.625 --> 0:16:16.745 I bought one pair that were heavily heavily discounted from 0:16:16.865 --> 0:16:18.945 Oroton like. They were down to under one hundred dollars. 0:16:19.065 --> 0:16:21.225 Never would I normally pay full price oortin also for 0:16:21.265 --> 0:16:22.865 a short that hits at my knee. 0:16:22.905 --> 0:16:25.225 I do love Roton, but it's on the spendy side. 0:16:25.505 --> 0:16:28.745 My Instagram obviously knows that I'm jawt curious or Bermuda 0:16:28.825 --> 0:16:32.385 short curious, so I am getting so many amazing style tips. 0:16:32.385 --> 0:16:34.825 So a jats are essentially a long denim short. They 0:16:34.905 --> 0:16:36.745 usually fall just above the knee, but you can get 0:16:36.785 --> 0:16:40.825 sort of varying lengths or Bermuda shorts oftentimes, like my 0:16:40.985 --> 0:16:43.025 ones are a silk, I think, but then there could 0:16:43.025 --> 0:16:45.105 be a linen or a cotton and they are again. 0:16:45.625 --> 0:16:48.545 You know, it's generally a pocket like a gene type waist, 0:16:48.585 --> 0:16:50.345 as in like a zip and a button, and you 0:16:50.345 --> 0:16:53.025 can wear a belt pockets and then they fall kind 0:16:53.025 --> 0:16:55.025 of above the knee. They're longer than a normal short. 0:16:55.305 --> 0:16:58.265 Let me defend this short not to you, Tam, because 0:16:58.305 --> 0:17:02.345 I'm sure you're across it. They can feel really dowdy. 0:17:02.745 --> 0:17:05.585 They can feel very skater boy, which I guess kind 0:17:05.585 --> 0:17:06.865 of plays into your surfa. 0:17:07.545 --> 0:17:10.145 There's a good side of that and then so good 0:17:10.225 --> 0:17:10.865 side of that, but. 0:17:11.105 --> 0:17:14.265 Right exactly, so for me, I'm just like, I don't 0:17:14.305 --> 0:17:16.705 really want to wear really short shorts anymore. Not because 0:17:16.825 --> 0:17:20.225 I don't like my body, but I am perimenopausal. I'm hot, 0:17:20.425 --> 0:17:22.985 so a jort to the office or even to an 0:17:22.985 --> 0:17:25.705 event is great. But then just you know, bending over 0:17:25.745 --> 0:17:27.665 picking up toys, you know, at the club with my 0:17:27.905 --> 0:17:30.065 son who's playing soccer. You know, I just want something 0:17:30.105 --> 0:17:33.065 a bit longer. Sure, I love a mini, but I 0:17:33.065 --> 0:17:34.945 am not gonna wear a mini to you know, up 0:17:35.025 --> 0:17:37.305