1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,385 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,425 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:24,545 Speaker 1: recorded on Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I 4 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:32,465 Speaker 1: don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to 5 00:00:32,505 --> 00:00:35,545 Speaker 1: you Beauty the podcast for Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, 6 00:00:35,545 --> 00:00:37,625 Speaker 1: I'm Kelly mccarrot, and you've got some news for me. 7 00:00:37,745 --> 00:00:39,265 Speaker 1: It came out a few weeks ago now, but I 8 00:00:39,305 --> 00:00:40,745 Speaker 1: just said to you off air, did you see it? 9 00:00:40,825 --> 00:00:45,665 Speaker 1: But algorithm? And I was like the Skim's beauty product launch. 10 00:00:46,265 --> 00:00:48,625 Speaker 1: It is one of those sort of you know how 11 00:00:48,665 --> 00:00:50,985 Speaker 1: you can get the KABD and J beauty sheet masks 12 00:00:51,025 --> 00:00:53,945 Speaker 1: that have the fluid like get liquid and they snatch 13 00:00:54,025 --> 00:00:56,505 Speaker 1: your jaw. Yeah, so she's made this full like head 14 00:00:56,625 --> 00:01:01,385 Speaker 1: thing that snatches your jaw. The outrage has been outrageous, 15 00:01:01,425 --> 00:01:04,305 Speaker 1: which I do agree with because it's like, can we 16 00:01:04,345 --> 00:01:07,425 Speaker 1: even just relax? But also she's definitely not the first 17 00:01:07,425 --> 00:01:10,345 Speaker 1: person to do it. I've been around for so long. No, yeah, 18 00:01:10,505 --> 00:01:14,225 Speaker 1: she's copying so much criticism because like it's like impossible 19 00:01:14,225 --> 00:01:16,545 Speaker 1: beauty standards. You know, her whole brand is like sucking 20 00:01:16,585 --> 00:01:19,065 Speaker 1: in and perking up and did it, which I agree, 21 00:01:19,105 --> 00:01:21,585 Speaker 1: But then I also just think because she's the most 22 00:01:21,625 --> 00:01:24,265 Speaker 1: famous person to do it and it's her. Yeah, I 23 00:01:24,305 --> 00:01:26,825 Speaker 1: completely agree with you, Like I don't think she should 24 00:01:26,825 --> 00:01:28,945 Speaker 1: be getting flack when so many other brands do this 25 00:01:29,185 --> 00:01:31,465 Speaker 1: also they were. I know, I looked back in my 26 00:01:31,505 --> 00:01:33,025 Speaker 1: camera roll and I had an old one. I'll have 27 00:01:33,065 --> 00:01:34,545 Speaker 1: to find what it was. I mean, I don't have 28 00:01:34,585 --> 00:01:36,385 Speaker 1: it anymore. It was a single year sheet mask thing, 29 00:01:36,425 --> 00:01:38,345 Speaker 1: but it went over your face and up behind your ears, 30 00:01:38,345 --> 00:01:39,665 Speaker 1: and you were meant to wear it for an hour 31 00:01:39,705 --> 00:01:41,945 Speaker 1: and it's too uncomfortable. I mean I wore it for 32 00:01:41,945 --> 00:01:43,585 Speaker 1: an hour before an event. I wouldn't do it all 33 00:01:43,585 --> 00:01:45,905 Speaker 1: the time, but before an advent or a photo or 34 00:01:45,945 --> 00:01:48,585 Speaker 1: some sort of fancy thing. They actually do definitely work. 35 00:01:48,705 --> 00:01:51,505 Speaker 1: But she fine convent it. She invented, So why are 36 00:01:51,545 --> 00:01:54,065 Speaker 1: we shouting at her? I don't know. Anyway, that's a 37 00:01:54,065 --> 00:01:56,745 Speaker 1: little bit of beauty news. But what are we doing today? 38 00:01:57,785 --> 00:02:00,385 Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but Wonder asked me anything. You ask 39 00:02:00,465 --> 00:02:04,625 Speaker 1: plenty questions. Well we are answering your questions. So if 40 00:02:04,625 --> 00:02:06,745 Speaker 1: you do have a question, polase let us know. You 41 00:02:06,785 --> 00:02:10,705 Speaker 1: can dm us as our lovely Olivia has today, Well, 42 00:02:10,785 --> 00:02:14,585 Speaker 1: I'll read what Olibya's. Oh yes, please, lovelyly, Is it 43 00:02:14,625 --> 00:02:17,065 Speaker 1: okay to send you a question for the Beauty podcast? 44 00:02:17,465 --> 00:02:20,945 Speaker 1: Of course. I'm starting to see products with azaelic acid, 45 00:02:20,985 --> 00:02:22,905 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure what it does. Where do I 46 00:02:22,945 --> 00:02:26,105 Speaker 1: fit it into my routine? Is it like an exfoliating acid, 47 00:02:26,585 --> 00:02:29,385 Speaker 1: or as you said, some serums that say acid are 48 00:02:29,425 --> 00:02:32,425 Speaker 1: actually hydrating. All of the acids confuse me and I 49 00:02:32,465 --> 00:02:35,585 Speaker 1: don't want to strip my skin. Such a good question, 50 00:02:35,985 --> 00:02:39,225 Speaker 1: and you're right to be cautious before you add it 51 00:02:39,905 --> 00:02:42,505 Speaker 1: first up. This has just reminded me that so many 52 00:02:42,585 --> 00:02:46,345 Speaker 1: years ago I did a Thursday episode Deep Dive like 53 00:02:46,345 --> 00:02:50,425 Speaker 1: the A to Z of acids just acids, not ingredients. Acids. 54 00:02:50,825 --> 00:02:52,985 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was like and I didn't touch on 55 00:02:53,025 --> 00:02:56,865 Speaker 1: some of the I think I did make a couple 56 00:02:56,865 --> 00:03:00,065 Speaker 1: of jokes. I'm sure how many of them made it 57 00:03:00,105 --> 00:03:02,585 Speaker 1: into the final cut, but god, and I'm so silly. 58 00:03:02,625 --> 00:03:03,945 Speaker 1: I just thought, oh, yeah, because this is a good 59 00:03:03,985 --> 00:03:06,265 Speaker 1: one for Z. But it starts with but you do 60 00:03:06,905 --> 00:03:10,465 Speaker 1: Z acid? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, well let's explain 61 00:03:10,545 --> 00:03:13,945 Speaker 1: asalic acid for Olivia and the ubis because there's confusion 62 00:03:13,985 --> 00:03:16,225 Speaker 1: around it. And it feels quite underground. Are quite new, 63 00:03:16,305 --> 00:03:19,305 Speaker 1: and that's for a reason. So up until about this 64 00:03:19,385 --> 00:03:22,785 Speaker 1: time last year, late well mid to late twenty twenty four, 65 00:03:22,825 --> 00:03:26,065 Speaker 1: the TGO changed its rules and restrictions around the use 66 00:03:26,145 --> 00:03:28,905 Speaker 1: of marketing and how you could buy asalic acid. So 67 00:03:29,625 --> 00:03:32,465 Speaker 1: at a certain percentage it was considered a drug, you know, 68 00:03:32,505 --> 00:03:34,945 Speaker 1: a medicine, so it was behind the counter or prescription. 69 00:03:35,145 --> 00:03:40,305 Speaker 1: But then they change that. Still there's variations around the percentage, 70 00:03:40,585 --> 00:03:42,385 Speaker 1: but now brands that you can just walk in and 71 00:03:42,385 --> 00:03:45,025 Speaker 1: pick up can formulate with it. So it feels like, oh, 72 00:03:45,065 --> 00:03:46,745 Speaker 1: I don't know this, but it's because it was more 73 00:03:47,145 --> 00:03:52,265 Speaker 1: restricted before. So Olivia is asking, is it exfoliating mildly? 74 00:03:52,385 --> 00:03:55,345 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about it, because you might not 75 00:03:55,505 --> 00:03:58,865 Speaker 1: need it, my friend, Olivia. So it's a pretty great ingredient. 76 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:02,825 Speaker 1: It helps with rhisasia, it helps with acne or breakouts, 77 00:04:02,865 --> 00:04:05,065 Speaker 1: and it helps with hyperpigmentation. So it's a bit of 78 00:04:05,105 --> 00:04:07,825 Speaker 1: an all rounder, kind of like we hear about our 79 00:04:08,305 --> 00:04:12,665 Speaker 1: retinal little bit like nice cinamide sort of. I would 80 00:04:12,665 --> 00:04:15,585 Speaker 1: say it's better for someone with rose a sha than retinol. 81 00:04:15,665 --> 00:04:18,705 Speaker 1: Not always, oh yes, just because like a lot of 82 00:04:18,705 --> 00:04:23,545 Speaker 1: my Roseesia. Girls love this ingredient because it's gentle enough, 83 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:27,265 Speaker 1: like retinol is quite intense. Oh yeah, Rose, she is 84 00:04:27,305 --> 00:04:32,025 Speaker 1: obviously very food seventy accents exactly. Wel that's it, and 85 00:04:32,065 --> 00:04:34,745 Speaker 1: so I mean it also depends on the strength you get, 86 00:04:34,825 --> 00:04:38,265 Speaker 1: same with retinol. But it's antibacterial and anti inflammatory, which 87 00:04:38,265 --> 00:04:40,465 Speaker 1: is why it's also great for breakout. And because it 88 00:04:40,505 --> 00:04:43,505 Speaker 1: is an acid, like a proper acid, not a hyaluronic acid, 89 00:04:43,545 --> 00:04:46,745 Speaker 1: which they should just change that name. It is gently exfoliating, 90 00:04:46,865 --> 00:04:49,945 Speaker 1: so it can fade the marks you might get after 91 00:04:50,025 --> 00:04:54,305 Speaker 1: a breakout, you know, hyperpigmentation, post blemish marks. It can 92 00:04:54,345 --> 00:04:57,225 Speaker 1: reduce breakouts, which we love. And I've been getting quite 93 00:04:57,225 --> 00:05:00,625 Speaker 1: a few verslated. So oh my god, why mercury are 94 00:05:00,665 --> 00:05:03,465 Speaker 1: you in retrograde? Why is it coming out on our skin? 95 00:05:03,545 --> 00:05:05,065 Speaker 1: I think it's like, well, one of those girls needs 96 00:05:05,065 --> 00:05:09,025 Speaker 1: to taste small acne products. It's safer sensitive skin. Again, 97 00:05:09,705 --> 00:05:11,545 Speaker 1: you'll err on the side of caution. And it can 98 00:05:11,585 --> 00:05:14,825 Speaker 1: be used during pregnancy, which is great because a lot 99 00:05:14,865 --> 00:05:17,265 Speaker 1: of you know, things that are for pigmentation or you know, 100 00:05:17,305 --> 00:05:19,065 Speaker 1: anything that feels like it's doing anything you feel like 101 00:05:19,065 --> 00:05:21,385 Speaker 1: you can't use so you can use it daily, but 102 00:05:21,585 --> 00:05:24,305 Speaker 1: start slow. You can even kind of use it morning 103 00:05:24,305 --> 00:05:26,425 Speaker 1: and night depending on the product, but it starts slow 104 00:05:26,545 --> 00:05:29,785 Speaker 1: just because it is an active ingredient. Before I tell 105 00:05:29,825 --> 00:05:31,665 Speaker 1: you some products, you need to assess the rest of 106 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:34,225 Speaker 1: your routine because if you know this is quite an 107 00:05:34,265 --> 00:05:37,305 Speaker 1: active product, if you're already using a retinol, a vitamin 108 00:05:37,425 --> 00:05:41,185 Speaker 1: c acca, you don't need it. No, you probably don't 109 00:05:41,225 --> 00:05:44,185 Speaker 1: need it, but it might be worthwhile assessing your whole 110 00:05:44,265 --> 00:05:46,425 Speaker 1: routine and it could replace something else if it's better 111 00:05:46,425 --> 00:05:48,585 Speaker 1: for you. So look at your routine as a whole. 112 00:05:49,025 --> 00:05:50,825 Speaker 1: Check out what's active. Check out what they're doing, because 113 00:05:50,825 --> 00:05:53,505 Speaker 1: you don't want to over do it. Some brands our 114 00:05:53,625 --> 00:05:55,705 Speaker 1: beautiful favorite to one of our favorite products, You and 115 00:05:55,745 --> 00:05:59,545 Speaker 1: I kellical brands Naturia. They have two azaleic acid products 116 00:05:59,865 --> 00:06:01,505 Speaker 1: that's made in the US, so I think they have 117 00:06:01,585 --> 00:06:04,465 Speaker 1: always had, you know, more lax restrictions there, so they 118 00:06:04,505 --> 00:06:08,425 Speaker 1: brought it here. As Clear is really popular. It's just 119 00:06:08,425 --> 00:06:12,545 Speaker 1: a pharmacy brand, quite not sexy packaging. It's a Z 120 00:06:12,905 --> 00:06:16,345 Speaker 1: clear that's more for you kind of hardcore breakouts. Like 121 00:06:16,385 --> 00:06:18,745 Speaker 1: I put that in the acne category where you would 122 00:06:18,785 --> 00:06:21,225 Speaker 1: go to like that medical acne area in the pharmacy. 123 00:06:21,425 --> 00:06:24,705 Speaker 1: Paula's choice of course Laroche Paz and a brand I 124 00:06:24,745 --> 00:06:27,385 Speaker 1: hadn't heard of, but it's got amazing review. Its Hello Skin, 125 00:06:27,665 --> 00:06:29,665 Speaker 1: They've got a really good one. So if you do 126 00:06:29,785 --> 00:06:31,545 Speaker 1: Google or go and have a look, you'll find that 127 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:35,505 Speaker 1: most azalig acid products are marketed to breakouts. But have 128 00:06:35,545 --> 00:06:37,745 Speaker 1: a look around. I feel like now, I mean that 129 00:06:37,865 --> 00:06:40,585 Speaker 1: was a year ago that the TGA lifted the restrictions. 130 00:06:40,585 --> 00:06:43,105 Speaker 1: It's definitely more, but I think more and more brands 131 00:06:43,145 --> 00:06:44,545 Speaker 1: are like, oh okay, we can use that now in 132 00:06:44,545 --> 00:06:46,465 Speaker 1: a better percentage, or we can talk about that now. 133 00:06:46,465 --> 00:06:47,905 Speaker 1: So I think we'll see more and more of it. 134 00:06:48,825 --> 00:06:51,265 Speaker 1: I did not have any in my collection. I want 135 00:06:51,265 --> 00:06:53,065 Speaker 1: to give it a go obviously. Put for me, I 136 00:06:53,065 --> 00:06:55,265 Speaker 1: mean I do get the odd spot, but for me 137 00:06:55,385 --> 00:07:00,145 Speaker 1: the pigmentation situation and I'm not sensitive, but I'm sensor 138 00:07:00,265 --> 00:07:03,305 Speaker 1: tized to my skin from all the chopping and change. Yeah, 139 00:07:03,345 --> 00:07:06,025 Speaker 1: so I'm going to hunt one out and report back. Yeah, 140 00:07:06,065 --> 00:07:07,665 Speaker 1: report back, because I went through my bathroom and I 141 00:07:07,705 --> 00:07:10,865 Speaker 1: was like, I've got to have one somewhere. Noe. Yeah, 142 00:07:10,985 --> 00:07:13,745 Speaker 1: So long story short, Olivia, check out what you're doing. 143 00:07:13,745 --> 00:07:16,065 Speaker 1: If you've got breakouts, give it a go. If you're 144 00:07:16,065 --> 00:07:17,985 Speaker 1: already using a retinol that you laugh, I wouldn't switch, 145 00:07:18,145 --> 00:07:26,665 Speaker 1: but what that guy is. Kaz has also sent to 146 00:07:26,745 --> 00:07:31,345 Speaker 1: us a DM. Hello, I love the pod, especially Monday apps. Okay, 147 00:07:32,225 --> 00:07:35,225 Speaker 1: my question is about lines and creepy skin on the neck. 148 00:07:35,305 --> 00:07:38,385 Speaker 1: I mean my early fifties and really noticing this. I've 149 00:07:38,425 --> 00:07:41,185 Speaker 1: tried the boost Lab Next serum and now the Trinny 150 00:07:41,265 --> 00:07:44,985 Speaker 1: Elevator cream with only very minor results. What are your 151 00:07:45,065 --> 00:07:48,425 Speaker 1: suggestions any other serums or skin treatments I could try? 152 00:07:48,825 --> 00:07:53,865 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Kaz Cauz. I feel you early fifties. 153 00:07:53,945 --> 00:07:56,785 Speaker 1: I'm forty three and I swear well not overnight, but 154 00:07:56,985 --> 00:07:59,745 Speaker 1: and I've always done my netcare. You've got a beautiful 155 00:07:59,785 --> 00:08:04,665 Speaker 1: net oh, Caz. Yes, okay, so listen, we can only 156 00:08:04,745 --> 00:08:07,665 Speaker 1: do so much topically, and whatever we're going to do, 157 00:08:07,705 --> 00:08:11,465 Speaker 1: we have to do consistently and be paid. So the 158 00:08:11,585 --> 00:08:14,105 Speaker 1: number one recommended thing for this area is retinal. But 159 00:08:14,785 --> 00:08:17,385 Speaker 1: the skin from your neck, like you'd under your chin 160 00:08:17,465 --> 00:08:20,665 Speaker 1: down to heat, is thinner and much more sensitive to 161 00:08:20,665 --> 00:08:23,105 Speaker 1: the skin on your face minus the skin under your eyes, 162 00:08:23,105 --> 00:08:24,985 Speaker 1: which is pretty much similar to this skin. So don't 163 00:08:24,985 --> 00:08:28,265 Speaker 1: go whacking your prescription retinal or your strong retinal straight 164 00:08:28,305 --> 00:08:30,665 Speaker 1: down here. You taught me that, and that blew my mind. 165 00:08:31,025 --> 00:08:32,465 Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't know that, but I 166 00:08:32,505 --> 00:08:34,905 Speaker 1: just always assumed. I not, it makes sense, but I 167 00:08:34,985 --> 00:08:38,665 Speaker 1: always assumed anything that wasn't your face with the color robust, no, 168 00:08:38,705 --> 00:08:40,585 Speaker 1: because this bit. But then you go to your arms 169 00:08:40,585 --> 00:08:42,985 Speaker 1: and everywhere else, and that's thicker and more resilient. So 170 00:08:43,065 --> 00:08:45,425 Speaker 1: this area is just pretty skin. Guy, like, why do 171 00:08:45,545 --> 00:08:48,425 Speaker 1: we come out with different skin. I'm gonna recommend some 172 00:08:48,465 --> 00:08:53,865 Speaker 1: specific neck like chin to nipple products, but whatever you do, 173 00:08:54,185 --> 00:08:55,505 Speaker 1: if you do have a retinol that you like, you 174 00:08:55,505 --> 00:08:57,505 Speaker 1: could sandwich it, or you could just go by an 175 00:08:57,545 --> 00:09:01,225 Speaker 1: affordable face retinal that's at a lower percentage hydration. So 176 00:09:01,265 --> 00:09:04,465 Speaker 1: I would do retinol, maybe build up to most nights, 177 00:09:04,505 --> 00:09:07,265 Speaker 1: but then hydration. I would almost like, miss, well, this 178 00:09:07,305 --> 00:09:08,865 Speaker 1: is what I've been doing. If anyone's gonna look at 179 00:09:08,865 --> 00:09:12,425 Speaker 1: an boats different when I'm not on camera, I missed, 180 00:09:12,425 --> 00:09:14,145 Speaker 1: And then I'll do a hydrating serum and then a 181 00:09:14,225 --> 00:09:16,865 Speaker 1: lightweight moisturiza like I give my neck almost like a 182 00:09:16,905 --> 00:09:18,705 Speaker 1: treatment white my face. It's not just like one swaite 183 00:09:18,705 --> 00:09:21,665 Speaker 1: swipe swape. I've got some expensive ones and some affordable 184 00:09:21,665 --> 00:09:23,625 Speaker 1: ones because we love a spend diesel. Everything in the 185 00:09:23,625 --> 00:09:26,385 Speaker 1: show notes though, so oh yes, everything's in the show notes. Doctor, 186 00:09:26,385 --> 00:09:31,345 Speaker 1: as always Dr Naomi hit the deck because it's decolatile. Ah, 187 00:09:31,385 --> 00:09:33,305 Speaker 1: I think that's about one hundred and fifty dollars. Then sorry, 188 00:09:33,345 --> 00:09:35,585 Speaker 1: I've used. It's very good. It's quite strong build up. 189 00:09:36,505 --> 00:09:40,225 Speaker 1: Just because it's quite strong doesn't mean you should expect 190 00:09:40,265 --> 00:09:43,705 Speaker 1: results immediately. This is going to take three to six months. 191 00:09:44,225 --> 00:09:47,425 Speaker 1: So with all of these, I mean that an affordable one. 192 00:09:47,425 --> 00:09:50,065 Speaker 1: Now Rock Skincare has a really great neck and like 193 00:09:50,145 --> 00:09:53,865 Speaker 1: decolotage cream, really beautiful. That's forty two ninety nine. You 194 00:09:53,865 --> 00:09:56,265 Speaker 1: can get that wherever you get Rock skincare are you know, 195 00:09:56,345 --> 00:09:59,265 Speaker 1: the big er, little big c not like it's a 196 00:09:59,345 --> 00:10:04,425 Speaker 1: chemist brand, but not a chemist brand. Yeah, what is it? Really? Wow? 197 00:10:04,545 --> 00:10:07,305 Speaker 1: That was that made sense? It's actually very not very 198 00:10:07,345 --> 00:10:09,345 Speaker 1: under the radar. But I'm always impressed with the stuff 199 00:10:09,345 --> 00:10:12,425 Speaker 1: that I I've never tried a dud you same, they're 200 00:10:12,465 --> 00:10:16,105 Speaker 1: really good. Number seven also has one. When I was 201 00:10:16,145 --> 00:10:18,505 Speaker 1: researching this yesterday, I ordered it from Priceline four price, 202 00:10:18,505 --> 00:10:21,025 Speaker 1: it's fifty nine to ninety nine. I was reading a 203 00:10:21,025 --> 00:10:23,625 Speaker 1: whole bunch of reviews from around the world and it 204 00:10:23,665 --> 00:10:25,785 Speaker 1: sounded great, So it's on its way to me because 205 00:10:25,785 --> 00:10:29,545 Speaker 1: I was like, Gus, yes, exorbitantly expensive is a skin 206 00:10:29,585 --> 00:10:33,305 Speaker 1: Suitical's neck cream two hundred and forty nine dollars. Oh 207 00:10:33,385 --> 00:10:36,385 Speaker 1: my goodness, I know, I mean amazing reviews. I'm not 208 00:10:36,425 --> 00:10:38,425 Speaker 1: spend two hundred fifty dollars on my neck like I care, 209 00:10:39,025 --> 00:10:41,025 Speaker 1: but not as much as my face. And I'm already 210 00:10:41,065 --> 00:10:42,665 Speaker 1: in love with so many of their serums. I'm like, guys, 211 00:10:43,185 --> 00:10:45,865 Speaker 1: Bare Minerals has one that I've not tried it that 212 00:10:45,945 --> 00:10:47,865 Speaker 1: mainly did make up. I know. No, they do some 213 00:10:47,865 --> 00:10:50,425 Speaker 1: really good skincare. This is one hundred and eighteen and 214 00:10:50,545 --> 00:10:53,225 Speaker 1: Fresh Skincare also has one one hundred and fifty five dollars, 215 00:10:53,665 --> 00:10:56,065 Speaker 1: So if you want to find a specific product, it's 216 00:10:56,105 --> 00:10:59,665 Speaker 1: definitely out there. If it were me, I would probably 217 00:10:59,705 --> 00:11:02,505 Speaker 1: just go to your number seven you're ola and buy 218 00:11:02,585 --> 00:11:05,385 Speaker 1: a retino like I get a specific retinal for your neck, 219 00:11:06,065 --> 00:11:08,665 Speaker 1: or you know, the Elizabeth Ardan retnols that are really hydrating, 220 00:11:08,985 --> 00:11:12,225 Speaker 1: this one that you love, I would almost go Okay, 221 00:11:12,305 --> 00:11:14,945 Speaker 1: you're my neck retinal. And then you could also like 222 00:11:15,145 --> 00:11:17,225 Speaker 1: have a separate routine for your neck as you're building 223 00:11:17,225 --> 00:11:20,785 Speaker 1: that up. Specifically, because I'm assuming kas you know, you're 224 00:11:20,825 --> 00:11:23,265 Speaker 1: into skincare and you're in your fifties, your face might 225 00:11:23,305 --> 00:11:26,145 Speaker 1: be more used to anti aging products than your neck. 226 00:11:26,225 --> 00:11:29,505 Speaker 1: So almost go, okay, face tonight, this is your routine, 227 00:11:29,505 --> 00:11:31,865 Speaker 1: and the next this is your routine, and like catch 228 00:11:31,905 --> 00:11:35,225 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, you know what I mean. Sunscreen because 229 00:11:35,465 --> 00:11:39,905 Speaker 1: sunscreen and always from your well, your forehead to your nipples, 230 00:11:39,985 --> 00:11:44,105 Speaker 1: because what the sun exposure does is degrade the college 231 00:11:44,145 --> 00:11:46,865 Speaker 1: and the lastin and that's why it's getting whobbuy if 232 00:11:46,865 --> 00:11:50,825 Speaker 1: it's really bothering you and you wanted to do a treatment, yes, 233 00:11:50,825 --> 00:11:53,745 Speaker 1: there's lots of options. Are if skin tightening, so radio 234 00:11:53,745 --> 00:11:58,025 Speaker 1: frequency hyphu. I've done high phoo. That's that really weird one. 235 00:11:58,225 --> 00:12:00,105 Speaker 1: It tightens, but i'd also kind of got rid of 236 00:12:00,185 --> 00:12:02,465 Speaker 1: that for me. They explained what that is to anyone 237 00:12:02,545 --> 00:12:09,945 Speaker 1: past Sorry her turkey, no her toad, toad or turkey gobble. Yes, 238 00:12:10,345 --> 00:12:13,225 Speaker 1: toads have the ball. Yeah they do too. Poor turkeys. 239 00:12:13,225 --> 00:12:15,025 Speaker 1: They're always the one. They're the ones that get what 240 00:12:15,105 --> 00:12:18,185 Speaker 1: I always think of a toad. Okay, yeah, I mean 241 00:12:18,345 --> 00:12:20,305 Speaker 1: I had two sessions, I think, and it was quite 242 00:12:20,545 --> 00:12:24,705 Speaker 1: not quite painful. It was like it felt like electric anyway, Okay, 243 00:12:24,865 --> 00:12:27,705 Speaker 1: it was fine, intense pulse lights of ipl there's certain 244 00:12:27,745 --> 00:12:29,865 Speaker 1: ones that can do that, lasers or there's a treatment 245 00:12:29,905 --> 00:12:32,865 Speaker 1: called ultraforma that is specifically about skin tighting. You're gonna 246 00:12:32,905 --> 00:12:34,745 Speaker 1: need a few sessions of those. It's gonna be expensive. 247 00:12:34,785 --> 00:12:37,385 Speaker 1: If I were you, I'd go find yourself a net 248 00:12:37,385 --> 00:12:40,185 Speaker 1: cream or a retinol that's right, and then I'd put 249 00:12:40,185 --> 00:12:43,185 Speaker 1: it in your diary, like I'm starting this now, and 250 00:12:43,225 --> 00:12:45,465 Speaker 1: then in three months within your diary house monet going, 251 00:12:45,465 --> 00:12:47,705 Speaker 1: and then in six months because it's not an overnight fix, 252 00:12:48,225 --> 00:12:50,225 Speaker 1: but it's a commitment, but it can be done. I mean, 253 00:12:50,225 --> 00:12:52,585 Speaker 1: look at our glorious faces. Just give you a cop 254 00:12:53,185 --> 00:12:56,785 Speaker 1: the that's it. So hopefully that helps KZ. But I 255 00:12:56,785 --> 00:13:00,105 Speaker 1: feel your sister, I'm just gonna keep wearing turtlenecks until 256 00:13:00,105 --> 00:13:04,385 Speaker 1: I've sorted mine out, she says, wearing a deep, deep plunge. Yeah, 257 00:13:04,385 --> 00:13:07,065 Speaker 1: but you have like whatever you've done on your mind. 258 00:13:08,025 --> 00:13:10,585 Speaker 1: So what I do is I wake up dry and revolting, 259 00:13:10,905 --> 00:13:13,065 Speaker 1: and I do my makeup, but then I just skin 260 00:13:13,145 --> 00:13:16,305 Speaker 1: flood my whole neck down to my nips, and then 261 00:13:16,385 --> 00:13:18,905 Speaker 1: I mix my foundation with my last step of my 262 00:13:18,905 --> 00:13:21,385 Speaker 1: body cream because that's a lot of pigmentation. Remember that 263 00:13:21,465 --> 00:13:23,145 Speaker 1: day that I forgot that I'd put a little bit 264 00:13:23,145 --> 00:13:25,385 Speaker 1: of makeup on and you were like, not a chance. 265 00:13:26,185 --> 00:13:28,985 Speaker 1: Is your chest skin that beautiful? You must have someone 266 00:13:29,065 --> 00:13:30,825 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I probably would. 267 00:13:30,825 --> 00:13:32,705 Speaker 1: I have to do all the time. Yes, I would 268 00:13:32,705 --> 00:13:34,665 Speaker 1: put like even just a little bit of concealer, mixing 269 00:13:34,705 --> 00:13:37,345 Speaker 1: with moisturize. Yeah, without thinking that I've done my foundation. 270 00:13:37,465 --> 00:13:39,825 Speaker 1: Bronze is darker than my body, particularly in the middle 271 00:13:39,825 --> 00:13:41,465 Speaker 1: of winter, so it would be like I was wearing 272 00:13:42,065 --> 00:13:50,105 Speaker 1: a white mask. Yeah, exactly. All right, Kel, I've done 273 00:13:50,105 --> 00:13:54,025 Speaker 1: a lot of talking beauty bite. Let's beauty. Well, the 274 00:13:54,065 --> 00:13:56,225 Speaker 1: funny thing is with the beauty bite, I want us 275 00:13:56,305 --> 00:13:59,545 Speaker 1: to discuss it together because we need to talk about 276 00:13:59,545 --> 00:14:02,105 Speaker 1: the golden ol facial. Have you had one? What in 277 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:05,025 Speaker 1: the magic So a little bit of a backstory, A 278 00:14:05,065 --> 00:14:08,185 Speaker 1: couple of well probably like six weeks ago, you had 279 00:14:08,345 --> 00:14:11,905 Speaker 1: this facial. It was called the Golden Our facial. It 280 00:14:11,945 --> 00:14:17,545 Speaker 1: was that sensation boutique in bron Tea, Sydney, but it's vegan, 281 00:14:17,705 --> 00:14:19,985 Speaker 1: so they have it at other clinics around Australia. You 282 00:14:20,025 --> 00:14:21,465 Speaker 1: just have to look on the website, which we will 283 00:14:21,505 --> 00:14:24,265 Speaker 1: link in the show notes. And Lee doesn't get that 284 00:14:24,305 --> 00:14:26,025 Speaker 1: many facials. You don't have time, you don't like to 285 00:14:26,105 --> 00:14:28,585 Speaker 1: lie still, and you were like, it was one of 286 00:14:28,585 --> 00:14:31,185 Speaker 1: the best facials I've ever had, so obviously then I 287 00:14:31,225 --> 00:14:35,065 Speaker 1: needed to go and get it because I love a facial. Fomo. 288 00:14:35,585 --> 00:14:37,585 Speaker 1: Oh do you really love a facial? Do you love 289 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:42,345 Speaker 1: the results or the experience? Ah? I hate both. I 290 00:14:42,425 --> 00:14:44,625 Speaker 1: just don't. I just get so anxious about the time. 291 00:14:44,665 --> 00:14:47,625 Speaker 1: I like results. The way thing is, I kept thinking 292 00:14:47,665 --> 00:14:51,105 Speaker 1: about you because when you had no chop on and 293 00:14:51,145 --> 00:14:55,185 Speaker 1: you're being massage. The thing about a good skin therapist 294 00:14:55,625 --> 00:14:58,665 Speaker 1: is that they will tailor it to you. Yes. And 295 00:14:58,825 --> 00:15:01,065 Speaker 1: it was so funny because I just thought, there is 296 00:15:01,225 --> 00:15:04,705 Speaker 1: no way that Lee got this exact facial because mine 297 00:15:04,745 --> 00:15:08,505 Speaker 1: went for almost two hours. Mine was ninety minutes. I think, oh, 298 00:15:08,665 --> 00:15:10,945 Speaker 1: I can't remember, I feel remember I fell asleep. He 299 00:15:10,985 --> 00:15:13,385 Speaker 1: did because like that, And I said, did I fall asleep? 300 00:15:13,425 --> 00:15:15,385 Speaker 1: And she was like, oh, yeah, okay, maybe we did 301 00:15:15,425 --> 00:15:17,105 Speaker 1: get the exact same one because I thought there's no 302 00:15:17,145 --> 00:15:19,025 Speaker 1: way that Lee would actually sit here this on. But 303 00:15:19,065 --> 00:15:21,945 Speaker 1: if you fell asleep, that makes sense. Yeah, mine was phenomenal. 304 00:15:22,305 --> 00:15:25,425 Speaker 1: So it's a Vanessa Megan customized. They use gold in 305 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,585 Speaker 1: one of like they literally use we need to put 306 00:15:27,585 --> 00:15:31,545 Speaker 1: a photo in here, They literally put It's very unsexy 307 00:15:31,585 --> 00:15:33,145 Speaker 1: while they're doing it because they're just kind of like 308 00:15:33,305 --> 00:15:36,585 Speaker 1: plastering gold onto your face. Okay, No, I didn't have that, 309 00:15:37,505 --> 00:15:39,985 Speaker 1: like you had sheets of gold. Yeah, I must have 310 00:15:40,025 --> 00:15:42,905 Speaker 1: been asleep because that was you definitely would have had 311 00:15:42,945 --> 00:15:45,185 Speaker 1: that because that's part of the gold in our facial 312 00:15:46,065 --> 00:15:49,905 Speaker 1: But I think that one of the how CCTV is 313 00:15:49,945 --> 00:15:53,105 Speaker 1: that in our industry, Lee and I both sometimes can 314 00:15:53,145 --> 00:15:56,225 Speaker 1: get a little bit cynical, of not cynical, but a 315 00:15:56,265 --> 00:16:01,465 Speaker 1: little bit like, oh about natural products or purely natural. 316 00:16:02,225 --> 00:16:05,265 Speaker 1: I don't think it's cynical. I think that that we've 317 00:16:05,305 --> 00:16:09,185 Speaker 1: tried so many treatments and products that there's plenty we 318 00:16:09,225 --> 00:16:11,385 Speaker 1: don't talk that don't work. Like treatments. We have our 319 00:16:11,385 --> 00:16:16,665 Speaker 1: products we try, so to be impressed is pretty impressive exactly. 320 00:16:16,905 --> 00:16:20,145 Speaker 1: So a lot of the time it takes like hardcore science. 321 00:16:20,265 --> 00:16:22,945 Speaker 1: So really, yea, yeah, yeah, yes, but oh my goodness, 322 00:16:22,945 --> 00:16:26,545 Speaker 1: these Vanessa Megan products and the skill of the therapist. 323 00:16:26,825 --> 00:16:30,425 Speaker 1: It was just outstanding and it was easy do super 324 00:16:30,465 --> 00:16:32,505 Speaker 1: firm facial. Yeah on you, because that's what I think, 325 00:16:32,505 --> 00:16:34,185 Speaker 1: that's what put me to sleep. It was wonder if 326 00:16:34,225 --> 00:16:36,385 Speaker 1: I had gold on my face. It was just outstanding 327 00:16:36,425 --> 00:16:40,385 Speaker 1: and it's such a gold. Gold is so beautiful gift 328 00:16:40,465 --> 00:16:43,865 Speaker 1: to either yourself or for someone else or just the products. Honestly, 329 00:16:43,905 --> 00:16:45,905 Speaker 1: I've Vanessa Megan's always been in my radar, but on 330 00:16:45,905 --> 00:16:47,825 Speaker 1: and off and then it's way back on now because 331 00:16:47,905 --> 00:16:50,665 Speaker 1: I just loved it anyway, So I was just so impressed. 332 00:16:50,705 --> 00:16:52,505 Speaker 1: So definitely have a look if you're after a facial 333 00:16:52,585 --> 00:16:55,945 Speaker 1: that feels good but also does something, and it can totally. 334 00:16:56,185 --> 00:16:57,785 Speaker 1: We always say you can't just get a one off 335 00:16:57,785 --> 00:16:59,745 Speaker 1: facial because there's no point. You may as well invest 336 00:16:59,825 --> 00:17:01,945 Speaker 1: in a good serm. You actually could, well, you know 337 00:17:01,945 --> 00:17:03,665 Speaker 1: what you could, because I don't sleep at night. The 338 00:17:03,665 --> 00:17:05,865 Speaker 1: fact that I fell asleep during the day or someone 339 00:17:05,905 --> 00:17:08,705 Speaker 1: was touching me very responsive NAP two hundred and sixty 340 00:17:08,705 --> 00:17:12,545 Speaker 1: five regardless, but obviously we're both Sydney bas We'll link 341 00:17:12,545 --> 00:17:13,665 Speaker 1: in the show notes and you can have a look 342 00:17:13,665 --> 00:17:15,505 Speaker 1: around the country if you want to have to try it. Well, 343 00:17:15,505 --> 00:17:19,865 Speaker 1: mine's way less sexy. Oh there's no gold, no topless massage. No, 344 00:17:19,985 --> 00:17:24,105 Speaker 1: but it involves shoes and deodorant and nothing to do 345 00:17:24,145 --> 00:17:27,145 Speaker 1: with smell. So winter's almost over. I hate winter shoes. 346 00:17:27,225 --> 00:17:30,105 Speaker 1: You hate winter shoes. They're so hard to like. I 347 00:17:30,105 --> 00:17:32,345 Speaker 1: get that ham high put a sock on with a 348 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,025 Speaker 1: heel because my feet are cold. All you're the cool 349 00:17:34,065 --> 00:17:35,705 Speaker 1: girls do. But then it's just like the ham and 350 00:17:35,705 --> 00:17:38,225 Speaker 1: the shoe and the practice anyway. Yeah, my hem is wet. 351 00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:41,385 Speaker 1: Yeah right, even though I'm wearing a heel. But even 352 00:17:41,385 --> 00:17:42,705 Speaker 1: for me, it just is hard to make the outfit 353 00:17:42,705 --> 00:17:45,465 Speaker 1: look good. So I've still got some flats that I've purchased, 354 00:17:45,625 --> 00:17:47,585 Speaker 1: been going to break in, trying to break in, like 355 00:17:47,585 --> 00:17:49,105 Speaker 1: you know how breaking in a flat is just so 356 00:17:49,225 --> 00:17:52,305 Speaker 1: annoying anyway, Like it's flat. You have to like a 357 00:17:52,345 --> 00:17:55,225 Speaker 1: loafer or a balance, you know, they're just too awful. 358 00:17:55,345 --> 00:17:57,465 Speaker 1: Yeah right, too offul you you spend two hundred dollars 359 00:17:57,465 --> 00:17:59,225 Speaker 1: on good quality leather, used to have to break it in? 360 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,385 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Well I've got to hack for you, my friend, 361 00:18:01,745 --> 00:18:03,425 Speaker 1: So then I'm always the one going I could do 362 00:18:03,465 --> 00:18:04,785 Speaker 1: this and then halfway through the day im running to 363 00:18:04,785 --> 00:18:06,585 Speaker 1: seven eleven to fine blister pads and blah blah blah. 364 00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:08,425 Speaker 1: Guess what the Internet told me to do and it works. 365 00:18:09,185 --> 00:18:11,425 Speaker 1: Put the shoe on obviously before you get to blister stage, 366 00:18:11,425 --> 00:18:15,505 Speaker 1: but where it's rubbing, get deodorant ideally not spray on obviously, 367 00:18:15,505 --> 00:18:17,905 Speaker 1: but ideally like the creamy one, so you don't want 368 00:18:17,905 --> 00:18:20,105 Speaker 1: to do this on your Swede shoes. You rub deodorant 369 00:18:20,105 --> 00:18:23,225 Speaker 1: on the bit where it rubs, then put your shoe on. Gone, 370 00:18:23,305 --> 00:18:26,865 Speaker 1: the rub is gone. It acts like lubrication protection. Wow. 371 00:18:26,945 --> 00:18:28,945 Speaker 1: I would think that it would rub more and then 372 00:18:28,985 --> 00:18:31,065 Speaker 1: you'd get like, I think that's obviously why you can't 373 00:18:31,145 --> 00:18:33,905 Speaker 1: use the spray because it's like powder. Yeah, but when 374 00:18:33,905 --> 00:18:36,465 Speaker 1: you use those creamy ones, yeah, it acts like a 375 00:18:36,505 --> 00:18:38,985 Speaker 1: buffer and just kind of like, I don't know, it 376 00:18:39,025 --> 00:18:41,225 Speaker 1: warms it up anyway, like it doesn't rub for the 377 00:18:41,225 --> 00:18:42,825 Speaker 1: rest of the day. And I swear it's made my 378 00:18:42,865 --> 00:18:46,385 Speaker 1: shoes break into Oh my goodness, I love that so much. 379 00:18:46,465 --> 00:18:48,785 Speaker 1: You find another hack for deodorant, considering I love it 380 00:18:48,825 --> 00:18:50,665 Speaker 1: on my lips, like not my lips, like my sweating. 381 00:18:51,825 --> 00:18:54,345 Speaker 1: It's been geodorizing with a urricks owner or body under 382 00:18:54,345 --> 00:18:56,985 Speaker 1: the boobies. Wow, so it works. So I mean, I 383 00:18:57,025 --> 00:18:59,025 Speaker 1: know winter's nelly over, but we all like to wear 384 00:18:59,065 --> 00:19:00,945 Speaker 1: a clothin shoe if you've got it, even a heel 385 00:19:00,945 --> 00:19:02,745 Speaker 1: that rubs. Just don't do it on Swede because you 386 00:19:02,825 --> 00:19:06,225 Speaker 1: might get a bit of the like deodorant. Yeah, but 387 00:19:06,225 --> 00:19:08,505 Speaker 1: if it's a leather shoe, because you can wipe the 388 00:19:08,505 --> 00:19:13,225 Speaker 1: deodoran off. What have no? Thanks Internet, All right, well 389 00:19:13,265 --> 00:19:16,025 Speaker 1: I'm going to go try that. But thank you so 390 00:19:16,145 --> 00:19:18,105 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Whether you've got us in your 391 00:19:18,105 --> 00:19:21,785 Speaker 1: ears or you're watching us on YouTube, remember that we 392 00:19:21,865 --> 00:19:23,945 Speaker 1: have just a you Beauty Show. It's not like you 393 00:19:24,025 --> 00:19:26,385 Speaker 1: Beauty Show, just a You Beauty channel. It's not MoMA Maya, 394 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,505 Speaker 1: it's just you Beauty. So you can come and join 395 00:19:28,585 --> 00:19:31,465 Speaker 1: us over there. We do have our very own YouTube channel. 396 00:19:31,505 --> 00:19:33,945 Speaker 1: And for anyone that might have been confused myself. Also, 397 00:19:34,145 --> 00:19:37,265 Speaker 1: the episode drop first thing in the morning, but then 398 00:19:37,305 --> 00:19:39,585 Speaker 1: it goes up on the YouTube channel that night about 399 00:19:39,625 --> 00:19:42,065 Speaker 1: seven pm. Ah, so if you really want to listen, 400 00:19:42,225 --> 00:19:44,065 Speaker 1: have a listen. And then if you want to see us, 401 00:19:44,265 --> 00:19:47,345 Speaker 1: you know, me barefoot with my cleavage, Kelly looking very 402 00:19:47,585 --> 00:19:50,505 Speaker 1: professional today. The YouTube clip goes up in the evening 403 00:19:50,705 --> 00:19:52,945 Speaker 1: just so you know, thank you for listening, thank you 404 00:19:52,945 --> 00:20:00,665 Speaker 1: for watching, and we'll see you Friday. Bye.