WEBVTT - These Sex Scenes Changed Everything

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<v Speaker 1>So much. You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma

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<v Speaker 2>Just letting you know that this episode discusses sex scene.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have little years around, maybe save this

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<v Speaker 2>for when they're not from MoMA Maa. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Spill your daily pop culture fix.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick coming on on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today. It is Friday, so we're very sexy

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<v Speaker 1>show for you. We do have popped off a very

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<v Speaker 1>sexy scene that was released in britgetwn on Netflix last night.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be talking about the sex scenes that

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<v Speaker 1>changed TV in movies. It's gonna get raunchy, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get sad, and then we have Weekend Watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But first we have insight into the upcoming Gladiator film.

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<v Speaker 2>And by inside I mean photos of Paul Mescal looking

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<v Speaker 2>very good with a cigarette in his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>That boy ever picture without a cigarette recently because there

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<v Speaker 1>was a nowly Portman cigarette photo. There's the photos of

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<v Speaker 1>him walking through London with a cigarette just like hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth. I know smoking is really bad

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<v Speaker 1>for you, which is why you're not allowed to glimse it.

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<v Speaker 2>Profess Marlborough, haven't jumped on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why it's smoking has been taken out of

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<v Speaker 1>movies and TV shows, like there's rules around what you

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<v Speaker 1>can show because it was overly glamorizing it and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have a sexy cigarette. And this is having

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<v Speaker 1>the same effect on you because this morning you were

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<v Speaker 1>look at his photos and m's like, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>want to take up some moking.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I want to take up smoking for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time in my life as a twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>year old woman, which I won't because I have really

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<v Speaker 2>bad ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Mum. You know what's not sexy taking a puff of

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette and then like convulsing on the floor and coughs,

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<v Speaker 1>because every time I've tried it, that's exactly what happens

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<v Speaker 1>until someone takes it off. Well, there you go. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>smoke kids. It's only sexy when Paul does it, not

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 2>So coming back to Gladiators, the film is a sequel

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<v Speaker 2>to the original Gladiator that came out in the year

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand, starring Russell Crowe. In Gladiator to Paul will

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<v Speaker 2>be playing the grown up version of Lucis and The

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<v Speaker 2>film also stars Denzel Washington and Pedro Pascal, who I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I didn't know about. I think they've been

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<v Speaker 2>washed over by the Paul Mascal ness of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I think we say you didn't know who Pedro

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<v Speaker 1>Pascal was, and I was like, yeah, imagine i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a fireable offense not knowing. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>a big, poor fan? Is this because which of his

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<v Speaker 1>work to you? I'm leading into something. I'm gonna yell

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<v Speaker 1>at you about which of his past works do you

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<v Speaker 1>most admire?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? Because I haven't seen any.

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<v Speaker 1>See, this is the thing, Like we've talked about Paul

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<v Speaker 1>so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>How can I tell me about to give me a lesson?

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<v Speaker 2>You start off with, well, this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to be condescending to you. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I'm just saying you're a massive fan of

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<v Speaker 1>this man, but only from pictures of him, and like

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<v Speaker 1>he's an okay looking guy, but his true sexyess comes

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<v Speaker 1>from his role in normal people. That's why people are

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with him. If it wasn't for his on screen

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<v Speaker 1>and off screen chemistry with Daisy ed Good Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>normal people and how sexy he was.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and social media accounts dedicated to the necklace he

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<v Speaker 1>wore in that movie because people found it so sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you skipped over all of that stuff, and your

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<v Speaker 1>only liking him from photos and in photos, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>another white, nondescript man walking around with a cigarette hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>of his mouth. He's only sexy because of normal people.

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<v Speaker 2>Will agree to disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of even see normal people.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have the beard and normal people which are

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<v Speaker 2>not on board with Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just feel like all about conversations about Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had so many.

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<v Speaker 2>So many Well anyway, over the years. The Gladiator Too

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<v Speaker 2>is apparently coming out later this year, and I think hopefully,

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<v Speaker 2>since seeing these photos, a trailer is on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned, I'll give you an update.

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<v Speaker 1>So the second part of British In Season three came

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<v Speaker 1>out last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched, no spoilers except for this one spoiler

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<v Speaker 2>your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's going to be a very mild spoiler here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think most people know that Part one ended

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<v Speaker 1>with Colin and Penelope having a bit of sexy time

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<v Speaker 1>in the carriage and getting engaged. So it should go

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<v Speaker 1>without saying that this next part of their story has

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<v Speaker 1>some sexy scenes in it, and there's one particular sex scene,

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<v Speaker 1>not getting in any spoilery details, but the way it

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<v Speaker 1>was shot I found really refreshing and just as realistic

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<v Speaker 1>as a TV sex scene can be in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it's in a show that's known for like

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<v Speaker 1>this regency fantasy series, and like a lot of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the sex scenes are very much like a beautiful kiss

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<v Speaker 1>and they fall into the bed and everyone's orgasming just

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<v Speaker 1>by touching and you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Erl panned to a vase on the table, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all very whimsical, which I think whimsicalness has a place.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be watching a realistic sex scene in.

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<v Speaker 2>Every movie, watching it with your parents. Yeah, I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for the whimsical.

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<v Speaker 1>But this I thought was done in a very sweet

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<v Speaker 1>way because it's Penelope's first time having sex, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the character of Colin is a lot more experienced and

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<v Speaker 1>very very experience, and they talk about that in the

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<v Speaker 1>sex scene, which I thought was interesting. Obviously is set

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years ago, but it felt like a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>you'd almost be having now in modern times about like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of consent in it, of him saying

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm about to do this. Is this okay? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this okay? They both ask each other like is it

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<v Speaker 1>okay if I touchy there? Is it okay if I

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<v Speaker 1>touchy here? And it doesn't take away from any of

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<v Speaker 1>the sexiness of the scene, which I feel like is

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<v Speaker 1>a big criticism A lot of the time when there's

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<v Speaker 1>sex scenes without that sort of consent taught people like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's so boring and it'll take away from the romance.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this case, I thought it really added to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can kind of explained to her what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot help that I promised me should only be

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<v Speaker 2>this first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just felt like exactly like two people having their first

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<v Speaker 1>time together and her having like a bit of pain

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<v Speaker 1>and discomfort when they first start having sex. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still very kind of wrapped up in a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of lush romance.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, as I was watching it, it got me

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about how much sex scenes have changed on TV

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<v Speaker 1>and in movies over the last couple of years. I feel,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the last like five years or so, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a big change, But really it's been the last

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<v Speaker 1>decade where the way they're filmed, what they're allowed to show,

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations around them have changed. So we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk through a few of our little favorite pop culture

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<v Speaker 1>altering sex scene moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I have one that is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>first sex scene I've watched as a teenage girl that

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, this is exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>I felt when I had sex for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in the film The Spectacular Now I've seen it, Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it stars Miles Teller and Shalne Woodley, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a coming of age, first relationship, teenage drama,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say so. Shalleene plays Amy, who has

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<v Speaker 2>her first boyfriend, which is Mars Teller, great boyfriend to have,

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<v Speaker 2>and their sex scene was just so real and raw,

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<v Speaker 2>like there wasn't any music. It was in I think

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<v Speaker 2>her parents' house, in her bedroom in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, which is I feel like how most teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>have sex for the first time and they're just like

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<v Speaker 2>giggling and then they're like clumsily like taking their clothes off,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like asking if like she's okay, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell like she's a bit of pain or like

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<v Speaker 2>discomfort at first, and then she gets really into it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm so glad they didn't show her like climaxing,

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<v Speaker 2>which I feel like they've always showed when I was

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<v Speaker 2>younger in those kind of movies. And then they just

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<v Speaker 2>have it once and then they like wake up in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the nine and they just like start talking,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this is what it's all about. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like sometimes when you see these very over dramatized,

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<v Speaker 1>very fancy like sex scenes, because that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>we look for movies too. We look to them for

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<v Speaker 1>these very elevated moments. But I think if that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing, it can make it a bit difficult. Like

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, so many movies I watched, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the early two thousands and nineties when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, and so they were like no

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<v Speaker 1>Wars and no one was watching Bluey or watching like

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<v Speaker 1>pretty Women, dirty Dancing, all that sort of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>many sex scenes there, and you know, even all like

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<v Speaker 1>rom comsad sex scenes and stuff, and you would always

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<v Speaker 1>just see this like very passionate kissing and they'd fall

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<v Speaker 1>into bed and they'd be under the covers, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what they were doing under there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you just kind of rolled around, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of sex. And like you also see

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<v Speaker 1>women like orgasman really intently, just from like the moment

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<v Speaker 1>a man touches them on the bed. You know, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why people had so much criticism around like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of you. The criticism came from you in particular about

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<v Speaker 1>women orgasming like so quickly and making that seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. But at least in the idea of you,

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<v Speaker 1>it was through like not just penetration. But still I

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<v Speaker 1>know that kind of fantasy element.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also feel like with these like films like

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<v Speaker 2>The Spectacular now it is for a younger audience, so

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<v Speaker 2>they have that responsibility to be realistic because I do

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<v Speaker 2>remember either when I was young, I'd either watch like

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<v Speaker 2>the films that you were describing, like really whimsical, but

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<v Speaker 2>also the complete opposite where it felt really scary. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Degrassy the Next Generation, and it made me

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<v Speaker 2>so scared of sex. There's always these like horror scenes

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<v Speaker 2>of girls suddenly getting pregnant or like girls in really

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<v Speaker 2>like unfortunate positions, and it was just like I never

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<v Speaker 2>got the in between.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Oh, the in between is such a hard

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<v Speaker 1>thing to find exactly what you're saying is so important

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<v Speaker 1>of and maybe it's almost why maybe now you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that it's putting words around why. I kind of liked

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<v Speaker 1>Bridgington because it was that in between a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be uncomfortable and weird and it's gonna hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>but also it's a little bit sexy and nice like

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<v Speaker 1>that in between Exactly it is so nice. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're just getting started here, coming up next scene

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<v Speaker 1>talk more sex. So really to think about my first example,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's so many sex scenes that you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>TV and movies and TV shows that I think have

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<v Speaker 1>really changed the bar. But one I kept coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to because it was the first time I was aware

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind of conversation is Blue Valentine, which came

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<v Speaker 1>out way back in two thousand and scene Valentine, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you should watch. I mean, it'll destroy your soul, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a beautiful movie, that old chestnut. So it's ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Gosling and Michelle Williams together and it's about their relationship

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<v Speaker 1>from like there's moments where they're really in love the

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<v Speaker 1>moments where theyre having this this terrible breakup. But why

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<v Speaker 1>that movie made headlines so much at the time despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact it was a bit of a sexy drama

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<v Speaker 1>between Ryan Gosling Michelle Williams who everyone loves, is that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a scene where Ryan Goslin's character Dean is performing

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<v Speaker 1>oral sex on Michelle Williams's character Cindy. I never now

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<v Speaker 1>that they're performing oral sex. That's like the way they say.

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<v Speaker 2>In the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I never not the word I way to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm talking. He's going down on her,

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<v Speaker 1>He's going down on her. I'm saying that's the movie

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<v Speaker 1>term they use performing oral sex. And because they shot

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<v Speaker 1>this scene of his character, like there's a whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>of him moving her underwear and like between her legs,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can see the whole thing happening taking place,

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<v Speaker 1>like they'd never moved the camera away. But it's also

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<v Speaker 1>very centered on like her emotion and her pleasure and

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<v Speaker 1>her reaction all that sort of stuff. And because of

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<v Speaker 1>that one oral sex scene. Because it was on a

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<v Speaker 1>woman and not on a man, it was deemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be more inappropriate, more scandalous, like something that people couldn't see.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the movie initially got an NC seventeen rating,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just crazy because it just cuts out who

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<v Speaker 1>can watch it, which cinema is it can be a distribution.

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<v Speaker 1>It really threatened to like overturn this movie, and the

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<v Speaker 1>production team and the actors all fought back against this

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<v Speaker 1>rating because it was going to have such a negative

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<v Speaker 1>effect on the movie. But also it was setting this

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<v Speaker 1>that oral sex from a woman's perspective would always get

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<v Speaker 1>you a higher rating than on a man, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just crazy. So longs and not to make this about

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Gosling, because I think sometimes men just get so

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<v Speaker 1>much praise for doing so little, but in his case,

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<v Speaker 1>he did come in well. I think they pushed back again,

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<v Speaker 1>said they eventually got given an R rating, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, like all these other movies had come out

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<v Speaker 1>with all these sex scenes of like either women on

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<v Speaker 1>women like Black Swan would get you a lower rating,

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's oral sex being performed on a man,

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<v Speaker 1>the rating would be lower. Ryan Gosling came out and

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<v Speaker 1>was like giving all these interviews about it because he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to get it overturned, and he was saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so crazy. He's like, I've been in so many movies,

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<v Speaker 1>or I've seen so many movies where the oral sex

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<v Speaker 1>scene is on a man, and I can't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>because ours is reversed, it's been classified as pawn basically,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas if it was a man would be art house cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember watching that movie and having such a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a moment watching it, and now I look

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<v Speaker 1>back and I'm like, oh, it's because I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>that on screen before, and I feel like it just

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<v Speaker 1>was such a game changer.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bit of a funny one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, we love funny sex. Thing should be funny

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It should be funny, It should be all things.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a TV show called Chewing Gum Love. It

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<v Speaker 2>stars Mikayla Cole who plays Tracy, who's a twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>year old and the entire TV show you've seen it right.

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<v Speaker 2>TV show is about Tracy like wanting to lose her virginity,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she wants to have sex so badly, and she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to enter womanhood as she calls it, and like

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<v Speaker 2>the build up of sex throughout the whole series is

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's gonna be like this massive thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>about to happen, and then she just kind of does it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really quick, and she like sings a song.

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<v Speaker 2>I prepared a song, lassing it and during my dom,

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<v Speaker 2>what will he find? It's the world of Adventure. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the world of adventure. We are I smart, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she cries. I think obviously the actual act of having

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<v Speaker 2>sex is not that realistic for most people who have

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<v Speaker 2>sex for the first time, Like I'm sure not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people break out into song I but I

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<v Speaker 2>think what is realistic is like when you're a young woman,

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<v Speaker 2>you build it up so much and then it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just happens. And in the movies, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>build it up and then it becomes this big thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but chewing gum, they just made it happen like real

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this is kind of cool, this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. My next example is kind of similar because it

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<v Speaker 1>was the whole thing of just like it's a simple moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but it becomes grain breaking because of how simple it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I know, saying sex education. This conversation is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit like, of course, like the whole point of

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<v Speaker 1>that TV show was to change how we see sex

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<v Speaker 1>scenes on TV, and they did, and they did. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that there's so many moments to call out.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I was kind of going through and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>which moment from the show really changed the game for

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<v Speaker 1>sex scenes on TV? And I think it was the

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<v Speaker 1>scene where you have George Robinson who played the character Isaac,

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<v Speaker 1>and Emma McKay who played Maye, where he's in a

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<v Speaker 1>wheelchair and he's a quadriplegic in real life, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have that scene where it's interesting because it's wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>in like talks around like consent and like where we

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<v Speaker 1>can touch each other and where we can sit, and

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<v Speaker 1>also her asking him like, well, what can you actually

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<v Speaker 1>do because of this disability? And then you have this

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<v Speaker 1>really sexy scene that plays outs so hot in the

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<v Speaker 1>way they did it with like cursing in his lap

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<v Speaker 1>on the wheelchair and how it was mapped out. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought why that was so interesting is that usually

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<v Speaker 1>any character with a disability, well, first of all, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really exist in TV and film, and like there's

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<v Speaker 1>all these starts around like only three percent of fictional

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<v Speaker 1>characters and scripted TV shows over the years have a disability,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're usually in the background. They're like the tragic character,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the side character. Al they're there to like give

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a moral compass the character like they

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<v Speaker 1>never have, Yeah, they never have their own kind of

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<v Speaker 1>love stories and sex scene. So kind of just seeing

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<v Speaker 1>this sex scene play out and having it be like

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<v Speaker 1>so hot and so.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the two main characters.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, exactly, I just thought that was groundbreaking. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't this moral compass where he was there like teach

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<v Speaker 1>may of a lesson and make her better, Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>jealous and he deletes, yeah, and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But every time I just was rewatching that clip before

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, God, this is hot, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly the kind of thing we need to see

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<v Speaker 1>on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>More So, I definitely know what I'm doing tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not what you're thinking. It's watching bridgeton.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't want to get into your personal life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a weekend watch, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn away from the sexiness. But you know, we need

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<v Speaker 1>light and shade on this podcast. What I'm recommending for

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<v Speaker 1>weekend Watch this week is a new eight episode drama

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<v Speaker 1>limited series called Under the Bridge, based on a true

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<v Speaker 1>crime story. I found it very difficult to watch, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not usually a big fan of crime TV shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen to any podcasts like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love Lily Gladstone so much it kills the flower Moon

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<v Speaker 1>was like wanting her to win an Oscar. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'll just watch anything Lily's in. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>Lily playing opposite Riley Keo who after Daisy Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>the six I'm super on board with her as leading lady.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did it for the I did it for

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<v Speaker 1>my two girls, so I sat through it. So Under

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<v Speaker 1>the Bridge is an adaptation of a book that came

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<v Speaker 1>out in two thousand and five the same name. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a non fiction and it was about the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>a teenage girl in Canada in nineteen ninety seven called

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<v Speaker 1>Reena Vik and it was a huge news story at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. She was a fourteen year old Canadian girl

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<v Speaker 1>who was killed by a group of teenagers in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>and her hometown. These six teenage involved were all tried

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<v Speaker 1>and convicted for their participation her death started this huge

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about bullying in high schools and where it can

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<v Speaker 1>lead and like teenagers being isolated. There were so many

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<v Speaker 1>things around. It's just a horrific story. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a drama based on that. So Riley Keo plays Rebecca

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<v Speaker 1>and she returns to her small childhood home in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>where something horrific happened to her that's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out later. She's there to write a novel, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Rena's disappearance happens, and Lily Gladstone plays Cam So she's

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<v Speaker 1>a local police officer, so she's investigating what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>this girl, and then Rebecca, who's there to write a book,

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<v Speaker 1>starts infiltrating this group of teenagers who you know are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like hide what happened under the bridge, but

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<v Speaker 1>also start telling her, and so it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a murder mystery. It's a little bit clunky in subparts,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's super hard to watch. Like I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's eight episodes out now if you're like me and

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of need to just take a break, just

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<v Speaker 1>watch one episode at a time. But they're very aware

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<v Speaker 1>as they're telling it about how much it can be

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to take someone's story and make it your own,

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<v Speaker 1>and take someone's murder and how you retell that and

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<v Speaker 1>how much dignity should people have us to death and

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff, And then it's also just

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a dark murder mystery drama. So Under

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<v Speaker 1>the Bridge on Disney Plus. The cast is amazing, the

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<v Speaker 1>story is devastating, but I think it's worth watching.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have a Disney Plus recommendation. It's called Queenie

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<v Speaker 2>and it's also a limited series episode episode show. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a book adaptation of a Carti Williams novel. It

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<v Speaker 2>stars Deon Brown who plays Jamaican British twenty six year

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<v Speaker 2>old Queenie. She has just broken up with a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and she also You're gonna diet this. She's a social

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<v Speaker 2>media assistant at a news publisher. Oh what, which is

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<v Speaker 2>my first job? Among me? Like literally the exact same title,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd just gone through a breakup when I first started.

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<v Speaker 1>This job should be called epily this show.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's just broken up with a boyfriend and she's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of navigating dating and casual sex for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you've ever done casual dating for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time after being in a relationship. It kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>becomes your entire life and you always prioritize it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of shows in real time, like the repercussions

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<v Speaker 2>of her prioritizing dating over her job, over her family.

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<v Speaker 2>Also entering this new life after being in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and living with your boyfriend, she's forced to confront some

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<v Speaker 2>unfavorable childhood memories that come to the surface as a

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<v Speaker 2>result of all of that. It is so good and

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<v Speaker 2>so wholesome, and she is so funny, like her family's hilarious,

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<v Speaker 2>her friends are hilarious. It's like one of those shows

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like, I don't know where this is going,

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<v Speaker 2>and then at the end you're like, that was such

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<v Speaker 2>a feel good show. So good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't wait to watch your autobiography this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of me the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Time we're shows. We'll take the same time. Thank you

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