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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Seas the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 2: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 2: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 2: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 2: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 2: explore the stories of those who found lives they adore,

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Speaker 2: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst days

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Speaker 2: will bear all the facets of seizing your yay. I'm

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Speaker 2: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 2: fu entrepreneur who's walptor suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 2: matcha Maiden and Matchamil. But C is a series of

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Speaker 2: conversations on finding a life you love and exploring the

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Speaker 2: self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. Ben Macintosh,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to CZA. Hello, yes, hello, Yes.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be here, great to be here, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's great to be here. You know. I

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Speaker 1: very much the opportunity to talk nonsense.

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Speaker 2: I am so incredibly honored and quite baffled, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: What an incredible story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well see it's weird because my face really lends

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Speaker 1: Modeling that I did. I never got a pay job.

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Speaker 1: What I do now is modeling either, Like, sure, I,

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Speaker 2: first question I always ask is what's the most down

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Speaker 2: But I think what's amazing about what you do is

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Speaker 1: to take everything and stride. It doesn't matter what you're doing, really,

433
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: and I can only make content about my experience. I

434
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: very very rarely have a really bad day. You know,

435
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: you might have a bad you know, five minutes, but

436
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: you can't let a bad five minutes affect the rest

437
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: of your day. And I think with me as well,

438
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: just the way I approach being a support worker is

439
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: that I'm there to assist someone live their fullest life

440
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just helping them. All I can do is

441
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: really just be there to assist, and once you sort

442
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: of get over that fact. I think everything just it's

443
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: like water if ducts back, something will happen to you

444
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: be like, hey, it's all good, it's we're fine out here,

445
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: you know. And like that's the thing about people think

446
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: I'm such a great support worker, and like I like

447
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: to think I am, absolutely, but I don't think I'm

448
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 1: an anomaly. I think the vast majority of support workers

449
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: are just genuinely like me. They're very passionate about what

450
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: they do and they love doing it. And I think,

451
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: you know, like saying that I'm a great support worker,

452
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: I love that. That's fantastic, But I do think vast

453
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: majority of support workers are great support workers. It isn't

454
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: an industry that you sort of get into without some

455
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: sort of passion for it. And I think that's like

456
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: one of the big things about being a support worker

457
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: is that if you're doing it, you're typically very passionate

458
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: about it.

459
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: Which definitely shines through in everything that you do. And

460
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: while I have you here, and I think one of

461
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: the great things about having a platform like this and

462
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: being able to spend more than a TikTok links video

463
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 2: on a topic is that for anyone listening who hasn't

464
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: ever had any exposure to Down syndrome or support work,

465
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: or has no one in their network that they can

466
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: learn from. Can you talk us through, like what is

467
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: Down syndrome? How does it manifest differently between Grace and

468
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: Zach And I imagine when Grace was first born that

469
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: might have been the first time for you and your

470
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: parents that you'd ever had to learn like what it involves.

471
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it was absolutely It was an interesting

472
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: time in our lives. You know, my parents have Grace

473
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: and there's so many different new things you have to

474
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: do a bunch of I mean I was nine when

475
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: Grace was born. I didn't have to do really, so

476
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: it was, you know, such a lie to undertaking, undertaking

477
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: for them to you know, work out, you know what

478
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: kind of expectations they were for her for her life,

479
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, developmental stuff because Down syndrome it's with the chromosomes.

480
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: It's a chromosome thing. So things like low muscle tone.

481
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: So low muscle tone just means get tired real fast,

482
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: So that can be a thing. But in saying that,

483
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: not everyone's the same. There was just I think it

484
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: was earlier last year a person with Down syndrome ran America,

485
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what do you mean It's crazy.

486
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 1: I was like, there is no way on this earth

487
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Grace or Zach would right now ever want to do that.

488
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: And it's just like I think a lot of people

489
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: say like blanket statements about people with people with Down syndrome,

490
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: people with disability in general. But everyone has their own personality.

491
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: They're just you know, it's just everyone has their own interests.

492
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: Everyone you know, has different body compositions that allow them

493
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: to do other things and train, and you know, everyone's

494
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: got their own hopes and dreams. I get a lot

495
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: of people saying like they're all so happy, Like all

496
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: people down syndrome are very happy. They should see my

497
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: sister on the morning when she gets ready to live.

498
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: She is a hurricane of just torment and brutality.

499
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: That's a big word.

500
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: Everyone has moods, you know, everyone has moods. It's hard

501
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: to put a put a blanket statement on what everyone

502
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: what everyone with Down syndrome are because everyone is completely different, just.

503
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: Like just like you, yeah, absolutely, But it's really interesting

504
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: hearing even that like low muscle tone is a symptom

505
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: that's quite common and that you were mentioning that you

506
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: had to sort of remind Grace about where to put

507
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: her tongue when she was speaking. Is that something that

508
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: like you know straight away in her educational milestones are

509
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: their particular schools that you know everyone who has Down

510
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: syndrome in roles in those schools early, Like, how did

511
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: her developmental?

512
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: You are you? You cut out? You cut out?

513
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, now you've cut out.

514
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: Hot on, I'm going to bat you money that my

515
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: sister has just started watching a movie and that's why

516
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: my Internet might be a bit short. I love that

517
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: because it just it just reeks. It reeks of it.

518
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: It reeks of watching a movie and stealing some of

519
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: the band, which I love it.

520
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: I love it. I think what I was asking is that,

521
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: of course it manifests differently and everyone, and I know

522
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: it's a chromosomal thing, but obviously it happens in degrees

523
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: and people will be affected physically or mentally in different ways.

524
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: But you also mentioned like you had to teach Grace

525
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: how to move her tongue when she was younger.

526
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like she would just have her tongue out

527
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: of her mouth because it was just easier, Like she'd

528
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: just be yeah, like that. It was just like tongue

529
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: in mouth shut and that was like one of the

530
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: things is like, you know, it was one of the

531
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: things we just had to implement. And then she doesn't

532
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: doesn't do that anymore. So it's just like little things

533
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: like that can make a world of difference in the

534
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: long run. Really so, and you stay on top of

535
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: you know, different therapists like speech therapy and stuff like that.

536
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: It's super super important. And Grace Grace has got a

537
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: job now. She works at zerafis Eah.

538
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: She's like nineteen, right, she.

539
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: Just turned nineteen. She just turned nineteen on the weekend.

540
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: Actually, I was going to say this is creepy, but

541
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: like six days ago, yes, I was like deep in

542
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: your I found her twelfth birthday and I was like.

543
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you went spilunkin back And.

544
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: I was like, you played AFL in Minnesota. I found

545
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff.

546
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: I did. I did. I fell in Minnesota, I played

547
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: I fell in many places in America.

548
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: We found a lot of stuff.

549
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeahh wow, that you really saw the whole back cautalog.

550
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: I had to dig. I was like, it's not just

551
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: about where you are now, it's about showing people you

552
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: can find your joy.

553
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: You're like a proper professional at this. You're doing your research.

554
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm a sleuth.

555
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible from you.

556
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: Incredible, I must admit. Like there's a video on your

557
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: TikTok where Grace flicks her hair and there's like it's

558
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: had like two million views or something like one point

559
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: nine million or thirty million or whatever it is.

560
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: Let me check which one we've done a couple because

561
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: I was like, people seem to enjoy that, I'm going

562
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: to do it. I think the one that's got the

563
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: most success is like seventy five million views. It's pretty

564
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: big find.

565
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that seventy four and a half

566
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: million of them will me just rewatching it?

567
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Good. I think I've done the math and it

568
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: was like a lot of years worth of watching hours

569
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: it's been been watched. So impressive from you.

570
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: Seventy four and to enjoy that video. She is on fire.

571
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean she looks incredible, she looks absolutely she I

572
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: mean she's stunning. She looks absolutely stunning, much more potentially

573
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: a model than I ever did, and.

574
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: Get paid, like make some money from it, you know,

575
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: I know.

576
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: And it's like her hair is its own end.

577
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: It's a paid actor.

578
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: It's insane, it's incredible from.

579
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: Her, it's on its own schedule.

580
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: I know how this happened. It's beautiful, it's silky, it is.

581
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: It looks like a commercial for shampoo, which hopefully with

582
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: a bit of like we'll actually get to do oh

583
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: my God with Grace because I feel like that'd be

584
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: so cool. Well, she's got the hair flip, she's got

585
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: the hair flip. I've got a tried and tested method

586
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: that it looks fantastic. Why not? What's what would be

587
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: so difficult about this? Let's do it. So.

588
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: One of the things that's really really cool, I think

589
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: in the last little while and you would have a

590
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: better insight. This is just an outsider's perspective, is that

591
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: it seems there is a bit more visibility for disability.

592
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: There's a bit more conversation to help people who don't

593
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: have disability in their lives to understand it more. You know,

594
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: we've had our first down syndrome Victoria's secret model.

595
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: I did see that. Yes, it's a great time for

596
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: your live and you know, getting more sort of mainstream.

597
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I think I think it's like

598
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: target that also has a model with DOWN syndrome modeling

599
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: clothes and stuff, and it's just it's beautiful, it's great,

600
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like walking around, you know, just

601
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: a little subtle integration society, which is something that never

602
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: sort of happened before, you know, And I think it's

603
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: really comforting for people that might have disability to walk

604
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: around and see themselves be represented on that stage. I

605
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: think that's really really important.

606
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: Have you seen that in Grace's life and in her

607
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 2: capacity to sort of formulate what she might want to do,

608
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: Like she might want to be a model, and then

609
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: she sees a DOWNS model and then things I could

610
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: actually do that, Like has her lifetime been affected by

611
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, just dominational balling or just misunderstanding and then

612
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: it's improved over time.

613
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: See that's so because I know, like the most of

614
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: that would have occurred in high school, and lucky for me,

615
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: I was living in.

616
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: America at the times.

617
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: I didn't really see any of that. You know, we'd

618
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: like chat and everything on the phone, but I didn't.

619
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure nothing bad happened, but I was never like

620
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: well appraised of any sort of situation that was going on.

621
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: But I'm sure I'm sure if it was bad, I

622
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: would have been told. But Grace doesn't have any sort

623
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: of barriers to what she wants to do. We watched

624
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: like a like a war movie, and she said she

625
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be a soldier.

626
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it.

627
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: And then she's like big into like Greek mythology and

628
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: she wants to be like Athena, and then she's like

629
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: she wants to help Robert Australia. There is absolutely zero

630
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: barriers in her life. And I love that she thinks

631
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: she could run through a brick wall, so good on her.

632
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: She can do whatever her she puts her mind to

633
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: go for it. I mean she thinks she can fight

634
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: me and beat me up.

635
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: I fully believe that she could. Just saying I would

636
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: put money on the Grace over you.

637
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: That's an issue in itself. She's going all out when

638
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: she tries to tries to attack me in a joking way,

639
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: there is no pulling any punch.

640
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: She is absolutely full bodies, swinging for the fences.

641
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: And it's she's got a powerful punch.

642
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: It's powerful, assass on it.

643
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: It's tough. I just got to like really like it's tough.

644
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: That's why I work out because I need to be

645
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: able to defend myself. It's self defense because there's no

646
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: holds bar.

647
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: For anyone again, who wants to sort of understand more

648
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: about the day to day and even her independence levels

649
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: and confidence and ability you know, to have a job.

650
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: Do you like you drop her off to work.

651
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm usually working when she does that, So usually it'll

652
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: be another support work, like she's she has her own

653
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm not allowed to be your support

654
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: because I'm a brother. That's like a family thing. So

655
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: like I will drop her off at places, but that's

656
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: just like as her brother. But when it comes to

657
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: like doing work and stuff, like another support worker will

658
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: come and get her and go do stuff with her

659
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And yeah, just her day to day,

660
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: she would comfortably watch movies the whole day if she

661
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: was given the complete freedom to do that. I usually

662
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: try and just rent it in a little courage to

663
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: do something else, you know, just like, hey, could you

664
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: do something else a little bit, maybe listen to music,

665
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, clean your room. But I think her perfect

666
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: job would be being a film critic.

667
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Because then she'd get to watch them for a job.

668
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I know, watching her watch a movie is a movie

669
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: in itself because she is so engrossed in the movie.

670
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: It's the absolute extremes of joy. When there's a joyful scene,

671
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: she is like like she can't hold it in. She's

672
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: like clenching her fist, going, Oh, she's so exciting about it,

673
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's wonderful to watch, and it's I think

674
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: that's what she should be striving to do. But again,

675
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I think she just loves to watch.

676
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Good on it.

677
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: I love movies through. I love movies through. That's good.

678
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: And So with your like, we see Zach a lot

679
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: on your socials and we've seen you know, other clients

680
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: for particular periods of time. Do you sort of have

681
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: one person at once or do you have multiple clients

682
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: at different times? Like how do you balance your weeks?

683
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: So I have like a couple of clients that I

684
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: see on like a wonder one like a wonder one ratio.

685
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: I see them like it's just them me throughout the

686
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: week during the school year, and then on the weekends

687
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: it was like the group activities that we do and

688
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: also the stas which is the short term accommodation, which

689
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: is like when we went away this past weekend, to

690
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: Sandstone Point holiday resort near Beyond, and so those are

691
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: the group stuff. But yeah, there's only one or two

692
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: sometimes three that I see one on one every week. Obviously,

693
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: the person I've been working with the longest is Zach.

694
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: We've done some incredibly fun things, like we're invited down

695
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: to Sydney for an H and M photo shoot things

696
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: that was fun. Awesome, Oh man, that was incredible. What

697
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: an experience that was for the vote of us. Really

698
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: it was awesome.

699
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And I think one of the things

700
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: that is hard sometimes to manage when you do love

701
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: your work, and particularly the way you fell into your

702
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: work is sort of like I already do this. This

703
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: doesn't even feel like work, Like it's just what I do,

704
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: is it. Then it's really hard for you, Like even

705
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: just speaking to you over the past couple of months,

706
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: you have no days off, you have so little time.

707
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: How do you manage the fact that, like it's not

708
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: a job where it's nine to five you go home,

709
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: it's like you're going on a trip, you're staying in

710
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: the accommodation. How do you manage your your energy or

711
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: your downtime.

712
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: It's gotten hardt like I do generally feel like I

713
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: have a very full schedule. I am very poor at

714
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: time management though as well, So that's like another aspect

715
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: in itself, like I, you know, work as a support worker.

716
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't work full time hours, but with this social

717
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: media stuff as well, that you got to add that

718
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: in there. And then I've just got general self care

719
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: that I need to take care of, like going to

720
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: the gym and you know, seeing you know, some of

721
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: my friends. So I feel like I am just chock

722
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: and filled with stuff. And I think that's been one

723
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: of the hardest things for me because honestly, I didn't

724
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: know what a work ethic was, and I wasn't and

725
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in having one for the first twenty

726
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: five years of my life.

727
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: I mean, honesty is the best policy.

728
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: Good on you, exactly right, And it's like, I don't know,

729
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: it's strange, but like I did the absolute bare minimum

730
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: on everything I ever did, correct bare minimum, absolutely and

731
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: granted out of that bare minimum. I have done a

732
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: lot of things that are great. You know, I did

733
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: the whole college in the using bare minimum. If I

734
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: wasn't as lazy as I as I was, i'd probably

735
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: been in a much different situation I am in now.

736
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: Everything happens for a reason.

737
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm very appreciative of where I am today. So like

738
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: this has all been a journey, you know, it's all

739
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: been a great time. But yeah, Like, up until I

740
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: started being a support worker and then I started making

741
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: this content on TikTok, I didn't have motivation to do anything. Really,

742
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: I was just happy going through the motions, just porting

743
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: the long and whatever. But ever since I started doing both,

744
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: it's like I am absolutely consumed by it, and I

745
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: love that. It's such like a It's been such a

746
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: different vibe to what I've been my entire life. And

747
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, I'm thinking of some sort

748
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: of work related thing all the time, which I would

749
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: love a break mentally at times, but I can't. I

750
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: don't feel like I can. I can do that, and

751
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: that's fine. I've learned to sort of deal with that.

752
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: With support work, I can just like leave it when

753
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: I finish work. I am always like thinking things on

754
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 1: how things can be assisted. And obviously my mum comes

755
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: home from work and that's what we talk about her

756
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: day at work, which is my work as well. So

757
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: it's like that doesn't stop in that regard, but I

758
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: found with TikTok that is like all the time I'm

759
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: like thinking, I'm like, oh, I gotta make a video.

760
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: I got it. I feel like I put a lot

761
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: more pressure on myself than I should have have to

762
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: or need to really, and I just I just think

763
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: that's the content game. Really, But I am in a

764
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: very lucky position with the content I make because it

765
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: is just centered around what I do. You know. Sure,

766
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: some things I have to you know, think about, you know,

767
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: making a video, like if Grace and I sit down

768
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: and do it like a piece of a camera or whatever.

769
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: But most of my stuff, they're just moments taken from

770
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: my day. And that's why I think a lot of

771
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: people enjoy about about my TikTok and my Instagram and

772
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: stuff is that it feels very authentic and genuine because

773
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: it is like none of them, like my my vlogs

774
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: or daily whatever, like you can't recreate those moments like

775
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: I just happen to have my phone out and I'm

776
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: just doing them as you go. And it's just I

777
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: just feel like people there's so much scripted stuff on

778
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: social media, so seeing something just raw and happening, I

779
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: think people really appreciate that because they know it's they're

780
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: not being sold anything. It's like, this is just the reality.

781
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: This is a situation.

782
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: That's yeah.

783
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: And obviously, like the personality of Grace and Zak in

784
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: particular are incredible. They're incredible, They're incredible individuals, incredible.

785
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: Love and a bit I mean as just three quarters

786
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: of a million of us, of.

787
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: Course, but no, like a common thing people ask or

788
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: like say, is like, you're so good with your brother,

789
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, Zach isn't my brother, but he

790
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: is one of the most important people in my life,

791
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: like one hundred percent. I I do view him as

792
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: a little brother to me. I do, like, I really

793
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: do care so so much for him. I'm like, I

794
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: just want what's best for him. That's I think that's

795
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: why I do go above and above and beyond all.

796
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean, at least, I think I'm trying to to

797
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: to make sure that he is put into the best

798
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: situation he possibly can be to succeed. And I think

799
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: that's that's really what it's all about.

800
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: I love it even more hearing you say that you

801
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: were just not super motivated or excited to go above

802
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: and beyond for anything until you found the thing, and

803
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: now it's hard for you not to not to be

804
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: that way. And I think a lot of people spend

805
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: a lot of their life feeling like.

806
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, well you've you've you've got to You've got

807
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: to seize you.

808
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: Babes. He's now. Honest.

809
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: It's not bad, not bad.

810
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: I just think it's so I mean, separate to the

811
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: actual nature of what you do, just the fact that

812
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: you can spend a lot of your life doing something

813
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: not feeling super excited or motivated, and then it's possible

814
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: to fall into something that lights you up so much

815
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: that it changes your whole attitude towards work.

816
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's like super strange because I love sport.

817
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Sport is still super important to me. I've always loved

818
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: playing it more, loved playing it more than watching it.

819
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: And I loved it. I loved playing AFL like it

820
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: was the most important thing to me growing up. But

821
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be doing extra practices. I would rock up,

822
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: do my thing, and then how far I went was

823
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: how far I went. I wasn't putting in extra efforts,

824
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: you know, And like I was, I was pretty I

825
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: was pretty solid. I was pretty solid. At AFL. I was.

826
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: I was, you know, made some rep teams, was in

827
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: the GACA Soun's Academy and tell you I was in

828
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: the Gagas Suns Academy. And then I did just I

829
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: lost it. I lost my passion to play. And that's

830
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: what ultimately ended up with me coming over to the

831
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: States because I was like, I need a challenge, I

832
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: need something new to do. And then, you know, it

833
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: was funny enough the moment I moved and started playing

834
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: American football, it was like, oh wow, I kind of

835
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: miss AFL a lot. But you know that's you know

836
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: why I snuck away and I played AFL Minnesota and

837
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: in Texas and stuff. But yeah, like I still absolutely

838
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: love doing those things. But it wasn't until I started

839
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: being a support worker and stuff that I really felt

840
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: passionate about about these things as well. I don't know,

841
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: it's really strange. I don't know, it's really it's really

842
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: bizarre because I like I can't understate how much I

843
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: did love playing AFL in sport, and like I actively

844
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: try and go Like the reason why I've torn my

845
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: ACL four times is because I continually try to go

846
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: back and play sport and then my knees just like,

847
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: maybe not exactly now, I don't know, but yeah, I

848
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: still it's like it's weird because I did love love

849
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: it so much, but I wasn't wanting to put it

850
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: in the extra effort, whereas with this, I am, I

851
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I love I.

852
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: Love that so much. But I feel like that's the

853
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: case with many people. Once you find the thing, you

854
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: know how. I think it was who was it who said,

855
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: if you find something you love, you'll never work a

856
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: day in your life, Like it won't feel like work. Yeah,

857
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's happened with you. You found

858
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: your thing.

859
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, it's great. And then I think my

860
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: TikTok ultimately started properly started when I started doing the

861
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: content with my little sister and then getting a lot

862
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: of comments of people being like positive and being and

863
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: saying like I've just had a sign daughter born with

864
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: Down syndrome and seeing this gives me so much hope,

865
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's big. So then I was like,

866
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: then I was like, if I really just highlight these

867
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: really full lives that these guys are living, I think

868
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: I could people even more hope for the future, for

869
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: you know their loved one, and I think ultimately that's

870
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: the reason why I carried on making that style of content,

871
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: and that's why I continue to do it. It's like,

872
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: I know that it can make a difference in people's lives,

873
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: and I do love the idea of people being like

874
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: this isn't as daunting as it was before, because you know,

875
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: when you first have a child with a disability, I

876
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: feel like for a majority of people it would be like, shit,

877
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: what do I do? I don't know. I don't know

878
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: the first thing about how to handle this situation. This,

879
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: you know, character building moment in my life, and I

880
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: think you know, by people stumbling across or being tagged

881
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: in my videos, people see that there is incredible potential

882
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: for a lot of joy and you know, something to

883
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: look forward to.

884
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: So beautiful. Well, if people don't already follow along, it

885
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: is the most beautiful and really really like, as you said,

886
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: super raw, Like it just feels like we're just part

887
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: of your day. What do you think for anyone who

888
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: doesn't follow you already, what's like your favorite video? They

889
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: should begin with? Do you have one that you're like

890
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: that was good other than the hair flick? Obviously, the

891
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: hair flick.

892
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: See, I don't know, that's not even close to my

893
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: favorite video. What annoys me about that.

894
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: Video is like it's eclipsed to everything I know.

895
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: It is by far the most popular video I've ever posted.

896
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: Like it's got like nine million likes or something like.

897
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: That's a lot of likes on TikTok. It's crazy. It's nuts,

898
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: Like it makes no sense.

899
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: It makes sense, it doesn't sense. I'm just saying it

900
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: makes sense.

901
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I just find it irritating because I put all this

902
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: time and effort into making these vlogs, these like videos

903
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: about these trips away, and people really enjoy those. But

904
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: the video that takes its four point two seconds in

905
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: total that we're just standing there and I'm just like,

906
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: all right, do the hair, let's do the hair flip,

907
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: and then she flips her hair and then we get this,

908
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: and I'm.

909
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: Just like, the fuck man, The.

910
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Effort I put into that video is one percent of

911
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: the other videos that I do, and it's like, of

912
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: course that would be the one that be the most successful.

913
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: It really teaches me a lesson. See, if anything, my

914
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: thing about putting an effort and my motivation stuff for

915
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: like making videos and TikTok and stuff if anything that's

916
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: trying to get me to not put in any effort. Yeah,

917
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: for videos, because like I mean, this is this is

918
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: tried and true technique.

919
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gross. Careless, do less, and it'll go better

920
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: exactly exactly right.

921
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: But I think like the videos that I have pinned

922
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: on my account either, like I think of the three,

923
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: I think I need to change one of them.

924
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: Now they're formals. Oh my god, they were my favorite.

925
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're formal. So they're both of their formal videos,

926
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: two of my favorites, because you know, it was such

927
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: like a milestone in their lives, you know, finishing high school.

928
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: And I made a big story, a big story about it.

929
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: And I'm so proud of those videos, not only because

930
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean I made them. Of course, I'm gonna be

931
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: proud of my own stuff, but I you know, I

932
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: played an important part of that day for them. Zach

933
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: requested me to sit next to him at his formal

934
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: dinner thing. Not his parents, No, no, no, no, no, this story. Yeah,

935
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: this guy right here got to sit next to.

936
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: Four parents were probably like you are of.

937
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: A bit brutal. I know, I'd come in here and

938
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: I've just comment dear the relationship and like with Grace,

939
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: you know, I walked her down the little red carpet thing,

940
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: and you know, when we got out of the car

941
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: and I heard people like a screen because at this

942
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: point in time we'd already had some sort of following

943
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: on tikto people were aware and we got out of

944
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: the car and people like screaming Grace. I was like,

945
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start dying. This is gonna be embarrassing for

946
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: me here I need but no, it was like, I

947
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: think those two videos are They're pretty special to me.

948
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: And then the other one is another video is like

949
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: just different aspects of being a support worker, which is

950
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: like a more zippy, more zip to it, you know,

951
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: more entertaining, just get you sort of get a snapshot

952
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: of what my content is like, see what I've what

953
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: I've noticed for TikTok. If people aren't appraised with how

954
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: TikTok seems to work, here, those short attention grabbing videos

955
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: like the hair flicks and stuff, that's what gets attention.

956
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: And then it's my other content, the longer form stuff

957
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: with the voiceovers and showcasing like a day in the life,

958
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: all these trips away that sort of get people to

959
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: like care. That's where you sort of build like the

960
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: audience that genuinely gives a shit, you know. And I

961
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: think those are the most important videos, those attention grabbing

962
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: ones like it's great, you know, we're showcasing off how

963
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: beautiful Grace is or how entertaining Zac may be. But

964
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: those longer form content where we're showing the lifestyles that

965
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: we're leading and everything like that, that I think people

966
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: genuinely care about it and ultimately stick around for because

967
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: it's exciting if they're exciting times. I just finished making

968
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: a part one of the part two of just a

969
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: two parter for our little trip away in this past weekend,

970
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: So hopefully I'm posting posting that tomorrow and then hopefully

971
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I remember on my first day in Hawaii on Sunday

972
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: that I can post the second one.

973
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: Is Hawaii a holiday? Is it an actual holiday?

974
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: Fore? Yes, see, it's an actual holiday.

975
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm gonna make all the content.

976
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: I know, it's like I'm gonna I'm gonna have to

977
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: make content. So it's like that in that regard, like

978
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: it never stops, but it would be so awesome. Grace and

979
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: I am very excited and take the Jurassic Park slicing

980
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: the world to where it was filmed. So we're big.

981
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: We're big fans of dinosaurs, so that's going to be

982
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: huge for us.

983
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the content.

984
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: We're very excited. We're very very excited for it.

985
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: Well. I will make sure to include all of your

986
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: links in the show notes. Ben, thank you so much

987
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: for this incredible chat. I feel like I could keep

988
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: picking your brain for like hours and hours and hours.

989
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 2: But one very last question for you, which we finish

990
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: every episode on. Do you have a favorite quote.

991
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big Disney guy, same big Walt

992
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: Disney guy.

993
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: Big huge favorite Disney movie.

994
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: I see, I can't answer that question. I can tell

995
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: you my favorite underrated Disney movie, and it's criminally underrated.

996
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: It's Atlanta. It's the lost Empire quality film. The reason

997
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: why it wasn't you know, it's not critically renowned now

998
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: not well known, came out the first year as Shrek.

999
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: Oh the Pixar like.

1000
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Also overshadowed there, so sort of forgotten. But it's a crazy.

1001
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 2: Forgotten, forgotten forgotten. I've gotten like Atlantis. Yeah, so good right,

1002
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: You've also been to Disneyland like eight thousand times. I

1003
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 2: saw like eight thousand pictures of you there.

1004
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: I used to live in Orlando, where Disney World is,

1005
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: so I've had numerous annual passes to Disney World. I'd

1006
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: be there. I'd be there at least four or five

1007
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: times a week because I live so close, so I

1008
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: was going all the time.

1009
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to admit I literally thought for a little while.

1010
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: I was like, is he in America because he got

1011
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: a job at Disney World? Like, is that why he

1012
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: was there?

1013
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people thought.

1014
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Magic Castle pictureles like, there's like eighty five

1015
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: of them on your page.

1016
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's a beautiful look and see

1017
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: that it's outseeming. I think just the way Disney does

1018
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: stuff is incredible. But that's beside the point. So while

1019
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: Disney like if you can dream it, you can do it.

1020
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: I loved that. I love that, But I just saw

1021
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: another quote. It's weird because I was got some like

1022
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: friends going through through some like I don't know, difficult

1023
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: patches in their life, right, character building exactly, And I

1024
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: was like, look, I'm a big champion of the idea

1025
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: that if you're putting in effort into something for long enough,

1026
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: it's eventually going to pay off. And I just saw

1027
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: a quote I think Forbes posted on their Instagram account.

1028
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: It was like Larry Bird the basketball player he once said.

1029
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember the quote verbatim, and

1030
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: it's like, if you put one hundred percent effort into something,

1031
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: eventually it's going to pay off. And I was like,

1032
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I said to my friend like four

1033
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: hours ago.

1034
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: That's fantastic, And I am like, I just think that

1035
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: is so good to think of, because like, yeah, like

1036
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: TikTok's turned into career for me, but that was never

1037
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 3: the idea.

1038
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: But I put in so much effort into that. And

1039
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, good old day management.

1040
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: Out here shout out to date that, and then all of.

1041
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: A sudden, I I started, you know, getting these collaborations

1042
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: going on. I was like, I put one hundred percent

1043
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: effort into this TikTok thing with absolutely no intention of it,

1044
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: you know, materializing into anything else than what it was,

1045
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: like spreading awareness and stuff like that, and all of

1046
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, grace and I are wearing sketches and making

1047
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: taking photos for them. I was like, if the shoe

1048
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: fits classic sketches, that's funny because shoe brand.

1049
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: So I can't cope. I can't.

1050
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: It's just even my soul, you know, another one, another one.

1051
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, too much, too much? We did we

1052
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: need to cut out of.

1053
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: No, no, we're drunk.

1054
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: We need drunk on joy. Drunk on joy, drunk on.

1055
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Joy, exactly right. Yeah, Like I said, I've never had

1056
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: alcohol in my life, so I feel like I have

1057
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: enough energy. I don't need any outside substances to enhance

1058
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: my experience of life. That's the way I look at it.

1059
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is one hundred percent easy to

1060
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: believe that. Like, look at you, you're just a walking yay,

1061
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: it's just bananas.

1062
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: See. I think you are a product of what you

1063
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: surround yourself with.

1064
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: That's true.

1065
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: And my work, I'm with some of the most joyful

1066
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: people ever, So, like, it's hard to not be in

1067
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: a good move. That's true when you're around such uplifting

1068
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: and positive people. You know, like my soundtrack when I'm

1069
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: when i'm driving even from work, I'm listening to Disney hits.

1070
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: It's hard to not feel great about yourself when you

1071
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: listen to Go the Distance by Roger Bart from Hercule.

1072
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: Literally, I'm on my way, I can go. It's just uplifting,

1073
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: it's this is literally. So we were on a road

1074
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: trip the other day. We went to see Disney, like

1075
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: the classical music version of Disney by Candlelight the other day,

1076
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: and so because of that on the way home, like

1077
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: my Spotify open right now is on Disney.

1078
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: Hits, So how far I'll go first on their quality song.

1079
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Speaker 2: I'm more o G. I'm more like Lion King, Beauty

1080
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: and the Beast or Laddin, like the whole Frozen now

1081
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: not not into it. I'm o G. I'm like back

1082
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: in the nineties.

1083
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: So you just think you're too cool. You're too cool

1084
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: and him to enjoy.

1085
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: The wow wow you can't appreciate.

1086
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: But Molana is objectively fantastic.

1087
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: Agreed, Agreed, Moanentangles.

1088
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Is better than Frozen. Disney hasn't seen the Tangles.

1089
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm a puristurist. Well, thank you so much, Ben, I

1090
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: hope you have the best time in Hawaii. We will

1091
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: all be following along with so much joy.

1092
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I'm very very excited to go.

1093
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: Never been family has, but I have never so looking

1094
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: forward to them finally taken me.

1095
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: We'll have an amazing time and hope you're season.

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00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: Your yay always. Thank you so much