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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel guilty body. Hello,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for your Face.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kelly McCarran, and welcome to the formula.

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Speaker 2: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of

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Speaker 2: the biggest names in beauty and take a look into

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Speaker 2: their beauty routines, what products they're using and why, and

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Speaker 2: I get into the nitty gritty of all things makeup

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Speaker 2: and skincare. It's a lot of fun and it's a

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Speaker 2: bit of an interesting ride today, to be honest, because

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Speaker 2: my guest today is myself. Last week was an absolute

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Speaker 2: cluster f with a three day week, and we received

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Speaker 2: many out of office emails from an abundance of clever

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Speaker 2: people who did have the foresight to take the three

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Speaker 2: days off in between the two long weekends to turn

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Speaker 2: it into a big break.

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Speaker 1: Not I though, not I. So I thought I'd.

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Speaker 2: Give you a little insight into what on earth I'm

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Speaker 2: doing to my skin, because it's never looked better.

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Speaker 1: If I do say so myself. Obviously you hear lots

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Speaker 1: of recommendations from me on Fridays, But here are the

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Speaker 1: products I use in my everyday skincare routine and what

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Speaker 1: that actually looks like. Later on in the episode, I'm

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Speaker 1: also going to spill on exactly what treatments I get

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Speaker 1: done on the rig, including injectables, and what I would

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Speaker 1: potentially have done in the future.

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Speaker 2: You are such beautiful skin.

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Speaker 1: But how.

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Speaker 2: Funnily enough, when I was putting this script together, I

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Speaker 2: was actually writing it next to my nanny who's in

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Speaker 2: nursing home, and two nurses came.

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Speaker 1: In to help her, and well, I'm not to toot

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Speaker 1: my own horn, That's totally what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: They were commenting on my skin and how smooth it is,

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Speaker 2: and they just said how young I looked. Anyway, it

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Speaker 2: was just like, very funny given that I was writing

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Speaker 2: about it, because I do think that my skin is

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Speaker 2: was like, Oh, Okay, this episode shouldn't be a total doudge.

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Speaker 2: Then let's kick things off with my routine and just

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Speaker 2: a heads up that this is obviously in an ideal world,

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Speaker 2: as any regular listener of You Beauty knows, I'm quite lazy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not very diligent. I would love to be a

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Speaker 2: girlie who actually uses my led in medicubriglely enough to

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Speaker 2: make one, but I am just not. I also don't

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Speaker 2: have specific recommendations for everything, so that's where the Friday

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Speaker 2: trying something different, so I can bring you the best

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Speaker 2: possible options for when you need to purchase something else,

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Speaker 2: because remember, it doesn't mean that you need something new.

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Speaker 2: It just means, hey, this is fantastic the next time

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Speaker 2: you need something. And obviously it goes without saying need

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Speaker 2: is a bit arbitrary because obviously the only thing you

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Speaker 2: actually need is sunscreen. So in the morning, once again,

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Speaker 2: I do a world so probably only five out of

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Speaker 2: seven days a week I cleanse. I just use anything

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Speaker 2: gentle and then I'll go in with their dermologic and microfoliant.

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Speaker 2: If you told me even a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: that I would use this most days, I would not

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Speaker 2: believe you, because it is a physical exfoliant, but it's

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Speaker 2: a rice based powder that is really gentle. It's not

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Speaker 2: I still wouldn't recommend it for anyone with active acne

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Speaker 2: and I don't know. It just really gets my skin

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Speaker 2: ready and glowing for the day next. I use the

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Speaker 2: Fresh Essence, So this is the Kombucher Essence. It's packed

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Speaker 2: full any oxidants. I've used it for years. I bloody

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Speaker 2: However, it's just so superior in my opinion for my

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Speaker 2: peptide booster, so the same brand that does the cult

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Speaker 2: It's full of peptides which are really great for the

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Speaker 2: I just find that it irritates my skin a lot

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Speaker 2: Or four hydrating serums before I'll pop on my SBF.

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Speaker 2: If I can't be bothered doing anything else, or I

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Speaker 2: do the Charlotte Tilbry Magic Cream unto the SBF. If

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Speaker 2: many exceptional day creams on the market, but I often

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Speaker 2: And Charlotte Tilbrey was a huge makeup artist, well she

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Speaker 2: And then I generally just use like if I'm feeling

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Speaker 2: a bit tight during the day, like the ultraceutical skin missed,

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Speaker 1: Kind of whatever I can find really at the time.

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Speaker 2: At night time, I always go in first with a

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Speaker 2: balm slash oil cleanser. My favorite is the Elemis Pro

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Speaker 2: quite gentle. Now, I skin cycle, so that means that

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Speaker 2: So, because I chop and change so much with my

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Speaker 2: nighttime routine, I'm just going to run through some of

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Speaker 2: the products that I always have in my cabinet, starting

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Speaker 2: off with the snow musin. It's so affordable and listen,

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Speaker 2: there are no clinical studies to back up how hydrating

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Speaker 2: I sound like a broken record with the next couple

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Speaker 2: Probiotics serum. It's like a milk this one. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: when I absolutely did not. I also have the Notarium

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Speaker 2: Peptides are the big guy this year, and they really

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Speaker 2: are just incredible. So I sort of use either that

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Speaker 2: because I forgot just how beautiful it is. So I've

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Speaker 2: been alternating with the Notarium Multipeptide Cream as the last

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Speaker 2: And I always also have the Alian Jojoba oil, which

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Speaker 2: isn't really an oil. We've talked about this many times

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Speaker 2: on New Beauty. It's actually a wax and it is antibacterial.

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Speaker 2: So because I do have a history of very acnic skin,

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Speaker 2: I always have this to either use if I am

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Speaker 2: having an active breakout, because I'll just literally go back

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Speaker 2: to basics and just use this with a bit of

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Speaker 2: pemple cream on because it's so moisturizing and hydrating and

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Speaker 2: like just feeds your skin so beautifully while being antibacterial.

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Speaker 2: And I also always have the mirrorad Hydration Repair mask

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Speaker 2: cannot believe what a difference this product made. I've been

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Speaker 2: these nighttime products, but they really are incredible, And that

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Speaker 1: Hit, You've made one of the greatest discoveries.

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Speaker 2: Of all time or miss, never again, never finally hit

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Speaker 1: Hello, Kelly, what product do you think is game changing

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Speaker 2: Well, Kelly, No, I wasn't gonna do that. But every

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: You could go back a couple of years and find

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Speaker 2: I do think that the results are amazing. It is

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Speaker 2: a treatment that uses dissolvable switches to rejuvenate and lift

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Speaker 1: Mainly the pain.

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Speaker 2: It is the most painful thing I've ever done to

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining.

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Speaker 2: Us, Kelly, You're so very welcome, Sleep Goose, Tune in

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Speaker 2: tomorrow for Tried and Test It, and I'll be back

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Speaker 2: in your Ears on Thursday with Sarah Marie for in

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Speaker 2: Her Bag. This episode of You Beauty is produced by

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Speaker 2: Molly Harwood, with audio production by Tiagan Sadler Bye