WEBVTT - An Affair Confession Live On Air 0:00:08.234 --> 0:00:10.914 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 0:00:16.194 --> 0:00:18.994 Hello and welcome to MoMA Mia out Loud. It's what 0:00:19.074 --> 0:00:22.553 women are actually talking about on Wednesday, the eleventh February. 0:00:22.594 --> 0:00:26.474 I'm Holly Wainwright, I'm Amelia Leicester, and I'm Jesse Stevens 0:00:26.594 --> 0:00:28.674 and we're going to get to the return of Amelia 0:00:28.754 --> 0:00:31.554 Lester in a second. Everybody, because the out loudest they 0:00:31.554 --> 0:00:32.553 are quick to panic. 0:00:32.754 --> 0:00:33.594 They are they. 0:00:33.914 --> 0:00:37.034 Someone in the out louders And they just wrote, Okay, 0:00:37.114 --> 0:00:41.074 where's Amelia? And the vibe of that particular comment to 0:00:41.153 --> 0:00:42.673 me was have you locked her? 0:00:43.714 --> 0:00:43.793 Like? 0:00:44.034 --> 0:00:46.434 Is she just too clever and you've decided that she's 0:00:46.473 --> 0:00:46.913 not allowed? 0:00:47.314 --> 0:00:50.274 Amelia was away. We'll get Twitter. But here's what else 0:00:50.394 --> 0:00:51.674 is on our agenda for today. 0:00:51.913 --> 0:00:55.953 I have got a very important scoreless gossip update that 0:00:56.074 --> 0:00:59.394 takes in everything from a cheating skier to Jen and 0:00:59.554 --> 0:01:02.074 Ben point twenty five and. 0:01:02.474 --> 0:01:04.714 To a post Super Bowl super breakup. 0:01:04.874 --> 0:01:07.554 Plus there is a true crime story which we can't 0:01:07.594 --> 0:01:08.714 look away from. 0:01:08.754 --> 0:01:13.234 And peniscape, plus Lindsay Vaughn, the woman who has divided 0:01:13.394 --> 0:01:16.034 sports spectators all over the world. 0:01:16.474 --> 0:01:20.034 But first, Amelia's been in America and we would like 0:01:20.154 --> 0:01:22.394 a quick vibe check from that nation. 0:01:22.634 --> 0:01:24.514 Yes, like Hailey Bieber. 0:01:24.794 --> 0:01:28.754 I just returned to Australia from America today. I was 0:01:28.874 --> 0:01:32.114 in ceat eighty one A on a Quantus flight from 0:01:32.234 --> 0:01:35.514 Dallas to Sydney, and I think she was in C 0:01:35.914 --> 0:01:37.074 eighty two B. 0:01:37.354 --> 0:01:38.994 Just behind you, just behind Yeah. 0:01:39.074 --> 0:01:42.194 Yeah, it could have been in first class or she. 0:01:42.234 --> 0:01:43.114 Would have been flying. 0:01:43.514 --> 0:01:45.634 Do you think I think maybe? Isn't she a billionaire? 0:01:45.754 --> 0:01:50.594 She literally just landed one of her fancy glazing milks 0:01:51.234 --> 0:01:54.354 if she was going to go on her anyway, what's 0:01:54.394 --> 0:01:55.434 America like at the moment? 0:01:55.874 --> 0:01:58.114 It was interesting there was kind of two Americas that 0:01:58.154 --> 0:02:00.594 I saw because at first I was in Washington, DC, 0:02:01.274 --> 0:02:02.954 which is where I used to live, which is where 0:02:02.994 --> 0:02:06.474 I used to live, and Mia texted me while I 0:02:06.554 --> 0:02:08.994 was there, and she said, give me three words to 0:02:09.073 --> 0:02:15.194 describe it. And I thought about it and I wrote back, snow, despair, grit, 0:02:15.914 --> 0:02:18.114 A lot of snow, like a lot of snow, Like 0:02:18.154 --> 0:02:21.633 we're talking like walls of snow, which people in DC 0:02:21.714 --> 0:02:23.954 are not very used to. So for a start, everyone's 0:02:23.954 --> 0:02:26.314 feeling a little bit cold and a little bit miserable. 0:02:27.394 --> 0:02:29.114 And then a lot of people in DC are feeling 0:02:29.114 --> 0:02:31.674 despair because a lot of people in the nation's capital 0:02:31.714 --> 0:02:34.514 have lost their jobs thanks to Elon Musk and Donald Trump. 0:02:34.994 --> 0:02:37.594 And people are quite worried about the demolition of the 0:02:37.594 --> 0:02:41.353 White House East Wing and the upcoming demolition of potential 0:02:41.514 --> 0:02:44.074 demolition of the Kennedy Center, which is this beautiful building 0:02:44.114 --> 0:02:45.994 which is in recognition of John F. 0:02:46.074 --> 0:02:46.474 Kennedy. 0:02:46.674 --> 0:02:48.754 But are they running out to see milaniy other film? 0:02:48.914 --> 0:02:52.674 Oh look, the snow was the only thing stopping. But 0:02:52.714 --> 0:02:55.314 then I added grit because I felt like a lot 0:02:55.314 --> 0:02:58.634 of the Americans that I was talking to in Washington 0:02:58.674 --> 0:03:01.434 who are kind of like either in government or adjacent 0:03:01.474 --> 0:03:01.913 to government. 0:03:01.954 --> 0:03:02.954 A lot of them are journalists. 0:03:03.554 --> 0:03:06.714 There's a sense that, yeah, we're going through this very 0:03:06.754 --> 0:03:10.994 tumul to us time right now, but also life has 0:03:11.074 --> 0:03:14.434 to go on, and people are trying to think about 0:03:14.434 --> 0:03:17.274 the future and what sort of lessons might be learned 0:03:17.314 --> 0:03:19.674 from this period of American history. And there is this 0:03:19.834 --> 0:03:22.554 sense of resolve amongst a lot of the Americans that 0:03:22.594 --> 0:03:24.754 I spoke to there. And then the second part of 0:03:24.794 --> 0:03:26.954 my trip was a girl's trip. I went to the 0:03:26.994 --> 0:03:30.314 Smoky Mountains in Tennessee, and they are famous for being 0:03:30.394 --> 0:03:32.474 the birthplace of Dolly Parton. 0:03:32.354 --> 0:03:33.874 Did you stay in a cabin in the woods? 0:03:33.954 --> 0:03:36.354 I did. I did see a cabin in the woods 0:03:36.394 --> 0:03:37.714 and I went horse riding. 0:03:37.954 --> 0:03:38.794 Did you see a bear? 0:03:39.554 --> 0:03:41.114 The bears a hibernating jesse. 0:03:41.394 --> 0:03:43.834 I learned this myself, I asked, and they just looked 0:03:43.874 --> 0:03:46.714 at me like I was very silly and foolish, because 0:03:46.714 --> 0:03:48.714 it is of course winter there, so I didn't see 0:03:48.714 --> 0:03:51.554 a bear, but it was really beautiful and nice, and 0:03:51.594 --> 0:03:53.954 also a reminder that in a lot of America, you know, 0:03:53.994 --> 0:03:58.314 you see these headlines about violence and protests and drama, 0:03:58.834 --> 0:04:00.954 but then in a lot of America, people are just 0:04:01.034 --> 0:04:05.194 kind of like proceeding with their lives and eating delicious 0:04:05.194 --> 0:04:08.954 food and not necessarily thinking about what's happening in Washington, DC. 0:04:09.394 --> 0:04:11.314 Okay, thank you for that update. 0:04:12.474 --> 0:04:16.433 One thing that everyone was talking about and which I 0:04:16.474 --> 0:04:19.953 feel like I really need to talk about as a result, 0:04:20.194 --> 0:04:23.593 is that Savannah Guthrie's mother is missing. Now. I don't 0:04:23.633 --> 0:04:26.153 know if you've heard much about this case, but she 0:04:26.393 --> 0:04:29.553 is this American TV personality. She is a co host 0:04:29.633 --> 0:04:32.234 on the Today Show, so she's a morning TV host, 0:04:32.873 --> 0:04:35.634 and her beloved mother, who was eighty four years old. 0:04:35.474 --> 0:04:37.113 Has been missing since last Sunday. 0:04:37.234 --> 0:04:42.073 Okay, so I've seen headlines about this, and I've been confused. 0:04:42.193 --> 0:04:44.674 I've not been following it super closely. At first, I 0:04:45.753 --> 0:04:48.754 didn't understand if perhaps it was a case of a 0:04:49.073 --> 0:04:52.234 disappearance or maybe she had left willingly and they just 0:04:52.274 --> 0:04:54.674 couldn't find her. And then it looked like it was 0:04:54.714 --> 0:04:57.433 something more sinister. But then the FBI has kind of 0:04:57.433 --> 0:04:59.273 been going against what the family said. 0:04:59.354 --> 0:05:00.993 I'm so confused today. 0:05:01.034 --> 0:05:04.113 There's this awful video which everybody is talking about. But 0:05:04.313 --> 0:05:06.593 can I just go one step back, because I'd never 0:05:06.794 --> 0:05:09.154 to be honest, I'd never heard the name Savannah Gusrie 0:05:09.234 --> 0:05:11.113 before in my life, and I've seen Tori say. 0:05:11.113 --> 0:05:13.553 Who would she be like? She's like, everyone loves her, 0:05:13.633 --> 0:05:15.914 she's not political, she's got a lot of kind of 0:05:15.914 --> 0:05:18.113 credibility as a morning TV host. 0:05:18.154 --> 0:05:19.754 I think she'd be like a Natalie Barr. 0:05:20.073 --> 0:05:23.993 Like in Australia, Natalie Barr has been on Sunrise for decades. 0:05:24.474 --> 0:05:28.274 She's trusted, she's generally well liked. She's not controversial in 0:05:28.313 --> 0:05:31.314 any way, but people sort of feel like they know her. 0:05:31.553 --> 0:05:34.073 But she's not like an oversharer, but they'd feel like 0:05:34.393 --> 0:05:36.394 they had a parasocial relationship with her. 0:05:36.553 --> 0:05:38.553 One thing that's come out in this is that people 0:05:38.674 --> 0:05:41.394 have been saying that the thing about morning TV hosts 0:05:41.474 --> 0:05:44.113 is that you do feel like you know them, because look, 0:05:44.154 --> 0:05:46.754 she Savannah Guthrie. She's a former lawyer. She's a very 0:05:46.753 --> 0:05:50.594 serious journalist. She interviewed Donald Trump in twenty twenty. She 0:05:50.633 --> 0:05:52.553 was about to go to the Winter Olympics for NBC 0:05:52.753 --> 0:05:53.793 when all of this happened. 0:05:53.834 --> 0:05:54.914 She born in Australia. 0:05:54.993 --> 0:05:55.674 She was born in. 0:05:55.594 --> 0:05:59.113 Melbourne to American parents who are working here. But they're 0:05:59.154 --> 0:06:02.753 serious journalists who people nonetheless feel very warm and close 0:06:02.834 --> 0:06:05.473 to because they invite them into their living room's first 0:06:05.474 --> 0:06:06.234 thing in the morning. 0:06:06.393 --> 0:06:10.274 I think that's only traditionally how we felt about Australian 0:06:10.274 --> 0:06:12.553 breakfast TV people too. We've talked a lot lately about 0:06:12.553 --> 0:06:14.553 how that influence is waning a bit and so on, 0:06:14.594 --> 0:06:18.113 But yeah, you do, genuinely how the chemistry of how 0:06:18.154 --> 0:06:20.393 you feel about in this very there's an intimacy and 0:06:20.433 --> 0:06:23.873 a familiarity, but then I guess there's also like a 0:06:23.914 --> 0:06:27.034 contract that you know. I'm sure they show up amid 0:06:27.714 --> 0:06:29.914 you know, lots of life's up up and downs, but 0:06:29.993 --> 0:06:33.514 generally they're always smiling, like they're always there's a consistency 0:06:34.034 --> 0:06:37.474 to them being there and to just being chirpy in 0:06:37.513 --> 0:06:37.993 your morning. 0:06:38.073 --> 0:06:39.993 And it's quite in that way. It's almost like quite 0:06:40.034 --> 0:06:40.714 one note. 0:06:40.873 --> 0:06:44.273 And in this very polarized America which I just ascribed 0:06:44.313 --> 0:06:48.193 to you, a Savannah Guthrie is a figure who just 0:06:48.274 --> 0:06:51.313 about every American likes. I mean, you can name the 0:06:51.354 --> 0:06:54.433 Americans that every American likes now on practically one hand, 0:06:54.474 --> 0:06:55.794 Dolly part and Savannah Guthrie. 0:06:55.873 --> 0:06:56.754 I think that's about it. 0:06:56.794 --> 0:06:58.514 I was going to say, bad bunny, but I love 0:06:58.553 --> 0:07:03.274 heard there are people him, some inexplicable people who don't 0:07:03.354 --> 0:07:04.993 like him anyway, Please continue. 0:07:05.113 --> 0:07:07.713 But the thing about this is even separate from Savannah 0:07:07.714 --> 0:07:12.874 Guthrie's fame, This is a uniquely horrible story. It is 0:07:13.114 --> 0:07:16.634 just the kind of true crime story that we thought 0:07:16.714 --> 0:07:19.074 that we had left way back in the nineteen eighties. 0:07:19.274 --> 0:07:22.154 People just are not getting kidnapped for arounsom anymore. So 0:07:22.274 --> 0:07:25.394 let me explain what happened. Savannah Guthrie is one of 0:07:25.474 --> 0:07:28.593 three kids. Their father died when they were quite young. 0:07:28.754 --> 0:07:32.714 Her mother, Nancy Guthrie, She is eighty four. Last Sunday, 0:07:32.794 --> 0:07:35.794 she was meant to be attending a streamed church service. 0:07:36.274 --> 0:07:38.833 The whole family is very religious with some friends, and 0:07:38.874 --> 0:07:41.194 she did not show up to the church service in 0:07:41.234 --> 0:07:44.474 the morning, so her friends called the police. They went 0:07:44.514 --> 0:07:46.874 around to her house, which is in Tucson, Arizona. 0:07:46.914 --> 0:07:47.874 It's kind of in the desert. 0:07:47.953 --> 0:07:51.314 It's just a matter of a few kilometers from Mexico. 0:07:51.434 --> 0:07:54.674 It's very far south in the US, and there was 0:07:54.714 --> 0:07:57.234 blood on the doorstep and she was not home. Now, 0:07:57.234 --> 0:08:00.394 the first reports, the ones that you probably saw Jesse, 0:08:00.714 --> 0:08:03.154 were kind of speculating, well, look, this woman is eighty four, 0:08:03.274 --> 0:08:06.394 is it possible that she wandered off? But then her family, 0:08:06.393 --> 0:08:08.914 including Savanna, were very quick to say no, this woman 0:08:08.994 --> 0:08:13.154 was exceptionally sound of mind. She did have some mobility issues, 0:08:13.154 --> 0:08:16.114 but there was no dementia involved here. This was someone 0:08:16.154 --> 0:08:18.514 who did not want to leave her house, and that 0:08:18.674 --> 0:08:20.994 the blood on the doorstep would seem to confirm that. 0:08:21.714 --> 0:08:25.754 There's basically been no leads since, which is a really 0:08:25.834 --> 0:08:28.354 long amount of time in a world where we think 0:08:28.393 --> 0:08:30.954 we're being tracked at all times, but no one knows. 0:08:31.194 --> 0:08:32.634 The FBI said that there's. 0:08:32.434 --> 0:08:36.314 No particular suspect or even person of interest they're looking at, but. 0:08:36.354 --> 0:08:38.994 Aren't they aren't there ransom demands or of some of 0:08:39.034 --> 0:08:40.194 those fake news. 0:08:40.394 --> 0:08:44.954 So the family has released two videos seemingly addressed to 0:08:45.114 --> 0:08:48.234 the kidnapper. There have been reports that ransom notes were 0:08:48.234 --> 0:08:51.514 sent to media outlets, including TMZ, but the ransom notes 0:08:51.514 --> 0:08:53.314 were not published by the media outlets. 0:08:53.914 --> 0:08:56.354 In these would be the way to handle that right 0:08:56.394 --> 0:08:59.554 here exactly. So that's like I was actually sort of impressing. 0:08:59.994 --> 0:09:02.954 For not publishing it. It has been reported that the 0:09:03.074 --> 0:09:05.714 ransom demand was six million US dollars to be paid 0:09:05.754 --> 0:09:06.354 in bitcoin. 0:09:06.874 --> 0:09:07.954 So in these two. 0:09:07.834 --> 0:09:11.394 Videos, which are really hard to watch, these three children 0:09:11.434 --> 0:09:14.554 sit on a sofa and they address this kidnapper from 0:09:14.594 --> 0:09:17.674 the ransom notes directly and they say to him or 0:09:17.674 --> 0:09:20.394 to her, to the kidnappers, we will pay. 0:09:20.554 --> 0:09:21.994 We really want our mother back. 0:09:22.114 --> 0:09:24.874 We will pay the ransom, but first we have to 0:09:24.914 --> 0:09:27.874 know you actually have our mother, because there's no way 0:09:27.914 --> 0:09:31.314 of knowing if these ransom notes are real. The latest 0:09:31.314 --> 0:09:35.714 development is the ransom notes were maybe not real, because 0:09:35.754 --> 0:09:39.394 Savannah Guthrie has released a video just speaking on her 0:09:39.434 --> 0:09:42.394 own and there's been a very distinct shift in tone. 0:09:42.754 --> 0:09:46.194 The ransom deadline has passed. Reporting as indicated that they 0:09:46.194 --> 0:09:48.394 did not pay the ransom, and she's no longer talking 0:09:48.394 --> 0:09:51.634 to the kidnapper. In fact, she's basically saying, we don't 0:09:51.674 --> 0:09:55.514 know anything. Please help us identify who this kidnapper is. 0:09:55.594 --> 0:09:56.434 Let's take a lesson. 0:09:57.114 --> 0:09:58.314 Hi there, everybody. 0:09:58.954 --> 0:10:02.114 I wanted to come on and just share a few 0:10:02.154 --> 0:10:07.954 thoughts as we enter into another week of the nightmare. 0:10:08.274 --> 0:10:09.834 I just want to say, first of all, thank you 0:10:09.914 --> 0:10:15.914 so much for all of the prayers and the love 0:10:16.034 --> 0:10:19.314 that we have felt, my sister and brother and I, 0:10:21.714 --> 0:10:22.954 and that our mom has felt. 0:10:23.434 --> 0:10:24.514 Because we believe that. 0:10:25.954 --> 0:10:29.154 Somehow, some way she is feeling these prayers and that 0:10:29.234 --> 0:10:31.314 God is lifting her even in this moment and in 0:10:31.314 --> 0:10:34.474 this darkest place. We believe our mom is still out there. 0:10:35.834 --> 0:10:36.634 We need your help. 0:10:37.474 --> 0:10:40.874 So a very distinct tone there of we don't know 0:10:40.914 --> 0:10:43.594 who kidnapped our mother. We're not talking about round some 0:10:43.714 --> 0:10:46.714 notes anymore. We just need some leads from the public. 0:10:46.834 --> 0:10:50.954 But then today this video from the doorbell camera that 0:10:51.034 --> 0:10:53.834 appears to be genuine, Yes, because Savannah Guthrie has shared 0:10:53.874 --> 0:10:57.194 it on her Instagram, and it is terrifying. 0:10:57.234 --> 0:10:58.274 And what does it show. 0:10:58.994 --> 0:11:01.674 It shows a man in a ski mask with what 0:11:01.754 --> 0:11:04.674 appears to be a gun in a holster walking up 0:11:04.714 --> 0:11:08.074 to Nancy Guthrie's home at around one thirty in the 0:11:08.114 --> 0:11:12.234 morning on the night that she went missing, and he 0:11:12.234 --> 0:11:15.314 he disarms the camera, and he also covers over perhaps 0:11:15.354 --> 0:11:17.874 another camera with some shrubbery because again she's sort of 0:11:17.874 --> 0:11:20.714 in the middle of the desert there. And then you 0:11:20.834 --> 0:11:23.514 really don't see anything of his face that the FBI 0:11:23.594 --> 0:11:27.154 has said maybe he has a mustache, but you can't really. 0:11:26.874 --> 0:11:28.874 See anything of him. And it's just. 0:11:28.874 --> 0:11:34.674 The most horrifying imagery. And clearly they've released this because 0:11:35.114 --> 0:11:38.554 this is my interpretation, but I don't think that the 0:11:38.674 --> 0:11:41.833 ransom notes were real because the deadline has passed, they 0:11:41.834 --> 0:11:44.713 didn't pay the ransom. We're not talking Savannah Guthrie's not 0:11:44.794 --> 0:11:49.434 talking about aroundsom anymore. And clearly the FBI and law 0:11:49.554 --> 0:11:52.394 enforcement has no idea who this person is, because that's 0:11:52.434 --> 0:11:53.833 why they've released this video so. 0:11:53.834 --> 0:11:54.514 Late in the piece. 0:11:54.994 --> 0:11:57.754 Other theories, I mean, I know, we don't know. Speculating 0:11:57.914 --> 0:12:00.954 is irresponsible, but I guess one of the reasons why 0:12:01.514 --> 0:12:03.634 it was always risky to go so public with this 0:12:03.714 --> 0:12:06.114 is the cranks like Asad though all those ransom notes, 0:12:06.114 --> 0:12:07.754 all the people who are going to jump this. 0:12:07.714 --> 0:12:11.074 Someone was in fact arrested for making hoax Ransomay, yeah, 0:12:11.074 --> 0:12:13.474 I can only imagine how devastating that would be. 0:12:14.034 --> 0:12:16.554 But are there any sort of credible theories about that 0:12:16.594 --> 0:12:19.554 this is related to celebrity and money, that it isn't 0:12:19.594 --> 0:12:21.833 that it's political, that it's like anything at all. 0:12:21.874 --> 0:12:25.154 There's no theories she was not a political figure. If 0:12:25.154 --> 0:12:28.594 the ransom notes aren't real, then why did someone do this? Jesse, 0:12:29.074 --> 0:12:31.794 I know that you used to host true crime conversations. 0:12:32.074 --> 0:12:34.394 Correct me if I'm wrong, But the idea of kidnapping 0:12:34.394 --> 0:12:37.154 someone for ransom really does feel like a relic, right. 0:12:37.354 --> 0:12:42.754 Yeah, absolutely, even kidnapping as a sort of criminal act. 0:12:42.794 --> 0:12:45.554 And then you go, is it just a coincidence that 0:12:45.634 --> 0:12:48.674 she happened to have an incredibly famous daughter or is 0:12:48.714 --> 0:12:53.394 that part of the strategy. And with any sort of 0:12:53.434 --> 0:12:59.034 missing person's case, the family will tell you that the 0:12:59.034 --> 0:13:03.434 public is your only asset, that's all you have, like 0:13:03.954 --> 0:13:07.554 having a platform. There are so many missing people. It's 0:13:07.594 --> 0:13:11.474 always shocking when you look at the statistics and most 0:13:11.554 --> 0:13:14.194 don't get the spotlight and you know, can't tell you 0:13:14.234 --> 0:13:16.834 the story of the person that they can't find for 0:13:17.194 --> 0:13:21.154 you know, years or decades. And so you understand why 0:13:21.194 --> 0:13:24.874 this family is using everything at their disposal to beg 0:13:25.034 --> 0:13:28.114 for someone to come forward, because that's often how these 0:13:28.234 --> 0:13:31.074 crimes are resolved, is that someone says, oh, I did 0:13:31.074 --> 0:13:34.674 see a strange car at one thirty am, going like whatever. 0:13:34.714 --> 0:13:35.874 It is, so to. 0:13:35.914 --> 0:13:38.914 Not even have a car, you're a lead of a car, 0:13:39.714 --> 0:13:40.634 you would just think. Well. 0:13:40.634 --> 0:13:44.074 Another thing that's really confounded detectives on this is that 0:13:44.074 --> 0:13:48.394 that part of Arizona is very dark at night because 0:13:48.474 --> 0:13:51.794 it's it's again the desert. There are actually rules about 0:13:51.834 --> 0:13:55.314 not having street lights because of the nature of the 0:13:55.354 --> 0:13:58.914 ecosystem around there. So I guess there's just no lighting, 0:13:59.194 --> 0:14:02.634 but I mean to not have security cameras from neighbors lots. 0:14:02.434 --> 0:14:03.634 Yeah, exactly right. 0:14:03.794 --> 0:14:06.434 It's just it's completely bizarre. 0:14:06.674 --> 0:14:10.794 Obviously, this is a developing story, and in fact, as 0:14:10.794 --> 0:14:13.674 we were recording this, we just heard that law enforcement 0:14:13.754 --> 0:14:15.834 has detained someone for questioning. 0:14:16.154 --> 0:14:17.154 We very much. 0:14:16.994 --> 0:14:20.674 Hope that Nancy Guthrie will be found soon and will 0:14:20.714 --> 0:14:22.154 be keeping you updated on it. 0:14:26.634 --> 0:14:31.154 In a moment, Lindsey vonn the US athlete who has 0:14:31.474 --> 0:14:37.714 divided sports fans all over the world. 0:14:36.794 --> 0:14:40.554 Out louders this is me and I missed you, which 0:14:40.594 --> 0:14:43.074 is why I've decided this year to come back into 0:14:43.114 --> 0:14:47.314 your ears twice a week, every Tuesday and Thursday, exclusively 0:14:47.834 --> 0:14:50.834 for Muma Mea subscribers. And yesterday we had such a 0:14:50.834 --> 0:14:55.994 good talk about generational parenting and how Generation X parents 0:14:56.034 --> 0:14:58.074 are in fact the supreme generation. 0:14:58.234 --> 0:14:59.674 I actually don't know if that's true. 0:14:59.794 --> 0:15:01.714 But is it Boomers? Is it Gen X? 0:15:02.034 --> 0:15:02.954 Or is it millennials? 0:15:02.954 --> 0:15:06.794 Holly Jesse and I really really dug a bit deep 0:15:06.794 --> 0:15:09.434 into or in fact, this is going to make you 0:15:09.474 --> 0:15:12.514 feel old, Jens ed. They also have children now, who's 0:15:12.554 --> 0:15:14.754 at the top of the leaderboard? So many thoughts on 0:15:14.794 --> 0:15:18.034 this one. Many of them are even verging on coherent. 0:15:18.234 --> 0:15:20.754 So if you're not already a subscriber, follow the link 0:15:20.794 --> 0:15:22.634 in the show notes to get us in your ears 0:15:23.074 --> 0:15:24.034 five days a week. 0:15:25.394 --> 0:15:28.954 There is some confusion about penis injections at the Winter Olympics, 0:15:28.994 --> 0:15:32.754 and it's important we look very long, very hard. 0:15:33.234 --> 0:15:35.914 I saw these headlines everywhere on the weekend and I 0:15:36.034 --> 0:15:37.114 was very confused. 0:15:37.154 --> 0:15:39.514 I was like, what do penises have to do with skiing? 0:15:39.594 --> 0:15:42.434 I know that the I know the outfits are very tight. 0:15:43.274 --> 0:15:45.274 Are we all just a little bit outside? 0:15:45.274 --> 0:15:48.114 I was on a horse. I wasn't watching. 0:15:48.474 --> 0:15:54.114 Okay, okay, Well, so the Winter Olympics began last Friday, 0:15:54.634 --> 0:15:55.074 like it was. 0:15:55.114 --> 0:15:59.714 Starting with the basis, yes, yes, it's in Italy, you're wondering, Yes, 0:15:59.914 --> 0:16:02.074 northern Italy where it is. 0:16:02.274 --> 0:16:06.274 Snowing cold, and I, for one have no idea what's 0:16:06.274 --> 0:16:06.554 going on. 0:16:06.634 --> 0:16:09.834 I've tried to our sports correspondent. If you don't know, who, 0:16:09.874 --> 0:16:10.314 don't know? 0:16:10.634 --> 0:16:12.474 Amerely. I tried to turn it on and I was like, 0:16:12.514 --> 0:16:14.074 I don't know what the rules are. I don't know 0:16:14.074 --> 0:16:16.074 what we're trying to achieve. I assume landing on our 0:16:16.114 --> 0:16:17.874 feet and they're all I really. 0:16:17.714 --> 0:16:20.554 Like the figure skathing me too. It's my favorite because 0:16:20.554 --> 0:16:24.474 it's music. Yeah, good time, that's a bit of fun, right. 0:16:24.914 --> 0:16:26.994 But there's a lot of jumping, there's a lot of sledding. 0:16:27.714 --> 0:16:30.954 They look cold, and most things look very dangerous. 0:16:31.234 --> 0:16:32.914 Does look really dangerous? 0:16:32.914 --> 0:16:37.994 Winter Olympics more dangerous, which we'll get to. But the 0:16:38.034 --> 0:16:39.994 outline of a penis I understand. 0:16:40.354 --> 0:16:41.474 So the. 0:16:43.074 --> 0:16:46.834 Bad Bunny video take your Way after the Sea exactly. 0:16:46.954 --> 0:16:50.914 I promise to stop trying to inject him into every conversation, very. 0:16:52.234 --> 0:16:53.834 Please, that's your fault. 0:16:54.154 --> 0:16:55.954 There are allegations that have been made and the World 0:16:56.074 --> 0:16:59.754 Doping Organization is looking into it, and those allegations are 0:16:59.754 --> 0:17:03.434 that male athletes are enlarging their penises with hyaluronic aspects. 0:17:03.474 --> 0:17:05.754 So is this But I thought hyaluronic acid was a 0:17:05.793 --> 0:17:07.833 great moisturizing skin ingreedy. 0:17:08.194 --> 0:17:10.154 Some mons it's a plumper. 0:17:10.594 --> 0:17:12.674 It's so you. 0:17:12.594 --> 0:17:16.154 Can get it in a syringe and you can plump. 0:17:16.434 --> 0:17:19.313 Thad rumors that like not just scares, but quite a 0:17:19.314 --> 0:17:20.874 lot of chaps do this. 0:17:21.234 --> 0:17:25.954 Yeah, and it's about is it anchorism to balance? 0:17:26.154 --> 0:17:27.194 It hunts their balance? 0:17:27.354 --> 0:17:29.874 I know, would I would think, or keep it warm 0:17:30.394 --> 0:17:31.234 because it's cold. 0:17:31.314 --> 0:17:33.154 Perhaps, I don't know if that works. 0:17:33.394 --> 0:17:36.634 Six Wise, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubta. 0:17:36.714 --> 0:17:36.954 Right. 0:17:37.234 --> 0:17:40.754 It does increase girth, not necessarily length as far as like, but. 0:17:40.754 --> 0:17:42.954 I don't think athletes want to be girthy. 0:17:42.674 --> 0:17:45.954 Do Well, Well, there's science here. Science. 0:17:45.954 --> 0:17:48.914 Why is this an advantage? Is the question we're all asking. 0:17:49.154 --> 0:17:52.074 That is, because it affords you a larger ski suit, 0:17:52.274 --> 0:17:55.474 which can apparently generate a small amount of extra lift. 0:17:55.914 --> 0:17:58.194 I refuse to go into the maths because I don't understand. 0:17:58.194 --> 0:18:01.154 But apparently a suit that has three centimeters more fabric 0:18:01.634 --> 0:18:04.194 could see an athlete traveling five meters. 0:18:04.354 --> 0:18:07.033 This does not make any sense. You're making it up. 0:18:07.114 --> 0:18:07.474 Okay. 0:18:07.954 --> 0:18:11.994 Apparently they have like to get fitted with their special 0:18:12.034 --> 0:18:14.754 suits for the ski jump. They get three D body scan. 0:18:15.074 --> 0:18:18.434 Every like millimeter of their body is taken into consideration 0:18:18.514 --> 0:18:21.513 to make sure that suit fits them perfectly and gives 0:18:21.554 --> 0:18:25.834 them no particular like flapping advantage. So if I think 0:18:25.874 --> 0:18:28.434 the theory is and there is some contention about whether 0:18:28.474 --> 0:18:29.874 or not this is true, you are right. I mean, 0:18:30.554 --> 0:18:34.513 in theory, if you have a larger package, your suit 0:18:34.594 --> 0:18:36.234 will be that little bit larger. 0:18:36.354 --> 0:18:40.594 Okay, but here's my issue. Birds don't have famously larger penises, 0:18:40.634 --> 0:18:42.034 do they, And they seem to have. 0:18:41.954 --> 0:18:45.994 A great flat flying they fly, I have wings, yeah right, yeah, 0:18:46.114 --> 0:18:47.314 maybe the penis is like a wing. 0:18:47.474 --> 0:18:48.154 I don't understand. 0:18:48.194 --> 0:18:51.594 I never did physix. But anyway, the doping agency has 0:18:51.594 --> 0:18:55.793 said that they yet to find hard proof and is 0:18:55.994 --> 0:19:00.073 taken the pis. They're having some fun to Holly, what 0:19:00.194 --> 0:19:03.474 has your intense research uncovered about whether or not you 0:19:03.634 --> 0:19:05.434 think they're enhanced penis? 0:19:05.754 --> 0:19:08.754 My vibe on this is like, sure, that's why you're 0:19:08.794 --> 0:19:09.274 getting the. 0:19:09.234 --> 0:19:12.674 Penis situations that's my vibe on this. 0:19:12.954 --> 0:19:17.194 It's definitely definitely about jumping a little bit further. 0:19:18.594 --> 0:19:19.794 To their elbows. 0:19:19.954 --> 0:19:20.634 We have all. 0:19:20.714 --> 0:19:23.634 Had about what goes on in the Olympic villages. A 0:19:23.634 --> 0:19:26.754 lot of good time, a lot of super hot, super fit, 0:19:26.914 --> 0:19:29.714 super healthy young people all rubbing up against each other. 0:19:30.434 --> 0:19:33.554 You can say it's for the flight advantage, and I 0:19:33.634 --> 0:19:35.594 will nod and smile and go okay. 0:19:36.394 --> 0:19:39.634 I was thinking, how offended would you be if you 0:19:39.714 --> 0:19:43.034 weren't accused? So what you want? Because they're going to 0:19:43.074 --> 0:19:51.234 go around and go, Holly, you're under investigation exactly, and 0:19:51.274 --> 0:19:53.793 then I'll go Amelia, you're actually fine, and you'll go, 0:19:54.034 --> 0:19:57.674 hang on. I would like to also be investigated, and 0:19:57.754 --> 0:19:59.714 so I think there's going to be some people who 0:19:59.714 --> 0:20:02.234 are very, very offended. Look, I think. 0:20:02.194 --> 0:20:04.834 Sometimes, do you remember when John Hamm came out so 0:20:05.194 --> 0:20:10.154 the mad charactor was accused of having a large penis 0:20:10.554 --> 0:20:13.314 accused and he said it was hurtful because it was 0:20:13.354 --> 0:20:14.914 all anyone wanted to talk about. 0:20:15.034 --> 0:20:18.994 So just show a little respect. 0:20:20.114 --> 0:20:23.114 Speaking of the Winter Olympics, the biggest story to come 0:20:23.114 --> 0:20:25.353 out of the game so far surrounds a forty one 0:20:25.434 --> 0:20:28.434 year old woman named Lindsay Vaughn. Did you guys know 0:20:28.634 --> 0:20:29.634 much about Lindsay von. 0:20:29.714 --> 0:20:33.394 No, But this story is great. Yeah, I mean it's 0:20:33.394 --> 0:20:36.514 not for her, it's not it's not terrible. It's really interesting. 0:20:36.554 --> 0:20:39.914 It's really interesting. So she's competing for the USA. She's 0:20:39.954 --> 0:20:43.114 forty one years old, and depending on where you sit, 0:20:43.234 --> 0:20:47.194 she's either a fearless hero embodying the Olympic spirit, or 0:20:47.314 --> 0:20:50.874 she is selfish and stupid and she robbed another athlete 0:20:51.114 --> 0:20:51.914 of an opportunity. 0:20:51.954 --> 0:20:54.434 I think that there is somewhere in the middle there, 0:20:54.514 --> 0:20:55.434 but that's not. 0:20:55.234 --> 0:20:58.874 Generally what that's opinion. 0:20:58.914 --> 0:21:01.234 You're allowed to have a right, Okay. Bit of background. 0:21:01.354 --> 0:21:04.234 Vonn has been competing for twenty four years. She is 0:21:04.474 --> 0:21:07.553 one of the most decorated alpine skiers in his street. 0:21:07.794 --> 0:21:11.834 And she actually retired for about six years and then 0:21:11.914 --> 0:21:15.714 decided to come back. This would be marking her is 0:21:15.754 --> 0:21:19.714 marking her fifth Olympics and always looking quite good for her. 0:21:20.914 --> 0:21:24.273 That was until one week ago, one week before the Olympics, 0:21:24.514 --> 0:21:26.954 she sustains a torn ACL. 0:21:27.194 --> 0:21:30.793 Now, just I obviously know what an acl is for 0:21:30.834 --> 0:21:35.034 the listeners, what is any and acl is sinornee. 0:21:35.354 --> 0:21:39.394 Yeah, and it's to do with like turning left and right, like, 0:21:39.714 --> 0:21:40.434 it's to do with that. 0:21:40.634 --> 0:21:41.674 So we all have it. 0:21:41.794 --> 0:21:42.634 We all have one. 0:21:43.034 --> 0:21:44.793 A lot of football players get it. A lot of 0:21:44.794 --> 0:21:46.994 female soccer players get it a lot. They say women 0:21:47.034 --> 0:21:50.033 are more likely to get the men. It's agonizing. You 0:21:50.114 --> 0:21:53.234 need surgery and yeah, if your inhabilitation, that's one of those. 0:21:53.274 --> 0:21:55.513 You're usually out of action for months. 0:21:55.554 --> 0:21:57.314 You can see it on the face of an athlete 0:21:57.314 --> 0:21:59.594 when they know they've done their ACL because they're looking 0:21:59.634 --> 0:22:03.034 down the barrel at a really significant recovery. She also 0:22:03.034 --> 0:22:06.594 had a bone bruise, and for most athletes are going 0:22:06.634 --> 0:22:10.634 into our to downhill skiing, this would mean bowing out. 0:22:10.714 --> 0:22:12.874 You're like, oh, well, I was gonna do it, youcause 0:22:12.954 --> 0:22:13.553 can't do it now. 0:22:13.554 --> 0:22:16.474 Because knees in addition to penis has seem important for skiing. 0:22:16.514 --> 0:22:21.434 They do is important exactly, but not Von. She was like, 0:22:21.474 --> 0:22:25.033 I'm not bowing out. I am competing. In two thousand 0:22:25.034 --> 0:22:28.954 and eight, Actually, Tiger Woods competed in the US Open 0:22:28.954 --> 0:22:32.074 with a torn ACL and stress fractures in his left leg. 0:22:32.274 --> 0:22:34.274 That's yeah, j it's golf. 0:22:34.314 --> 0:22:36.154 But I had to bring up Tiger Woods because he's 0:22:36.194 --> 0:22:39.234 her ex and I just thought that that was just 0:22:39.354 --> 0:22:40.674 I wanted to put it in, but I didn't want 0:22:40.674 --> 0:22:43.554 it to sound like that's the most interesting thing about her. 0:22:44.194 --> 0:22:46.874 But I know you wanted to know too. Okay, anyway, 0:22:47.034 --> 0:22:50.874 skiing is not golf, as established, but she had won 0:22:50.994 --> 0:22:54.234 twelve times in this exact spot in Cortina, and she 0:22:54.274 --> 0:22:56.793 was attempting to become the oldest alpine skier man or 0:22:56.794 --> 0:23:00.714 woman to win an Olympic medal. That dream was not realized, 0:23:00.834 --> 0:23:05.594 so thirteen seconds into her run, she experienced a devastating 0:23:05.634 --> 0:23:08.554 crash which ended in a broken leg, the same leg 0:23:08.594 --> 0:23:11.874 with the ruptured ACL, and you could hear her screams 0:23:11.914 --> 0:23:13.354 of pain on the broadcast. 0:23:13.434 --> 0:23:15.874 Okay, this is what I don't understand. Why is she 0:23:15.954 --> 0:23:18.474 at pains to tell us that that had nothing to 0:23:18.474 --> 0:23:20.114 do with the ACL. 0:23:20.314 --> 0:23:22.513 Because she doesn't want it to seem like she was 0:23:22.554 --> 0:23:26.033 really irris, like, so I'm going to compete no matter what. 0:23:26.074 --> 0:23:28.194 I've got a torn ACL and a bone bruise. But 0:23:28.354 --> 0:23:31.033 and all the doctors are like ah. In fact, she 0:23:31.474 --> 0:23:34.994 I saw some social media from her where she repeated 0:23:34.994 --> 0:23:37.914 it a doctor had said this isn't possible, you can't 0:23:37.914 --> 0:23:40.553 do it, and her vibe is like, thanks doc, just 0:23:40.554 --> 0:23:41.833 because you said it's impossible. 0:23:41.994 --> 0:23:43.954 Doesn't make it impossible. I will do it. 0:23:44.634 --> 0:23:47.194 So the people who go, you shouldn't have taken a 0:23:47.234 --> 0:23:50.234 spot because you were never match fit. She's trying to 0:23:50.274 --> 0:23:55.554 say what happened on that field could have happened to anyone, 0:23:55.874 --> 0:23:59.274 and experts tend to agree with her. They say that actually, 0:23:59.314 --> 0:24:01.634 it wasn't to do with her leg. It was to 0:24:01.674 --> 0:24:04.154 do with she clipped something as she went past, and 0:24:04.234 --> 0:24:06.034 it was to do with balance and blah blah blah. 0:24:06.074 --> 0:24:08.594 It could have happened to anyone. That's one theory. But 0:24:08.674 --> 0:24:12.674 she was ultimately airlifted from the course. Another American, Breezy Johnson, 0:24:12.714 --> 0:24:15.434 won the gold medal, but many say that that was 0:24:15.434 --> 0:24:21.474 eclipsed by Vonn's disastrous run. The question, therefore, is like 0:24:21.514 --> 0:24:25.234 whether she should have competed at all? Should she have 0:24:25.314 --> 0:24:29.914 competed riddled with injury? Is it hubris? Or is this 0:24:30.034 --> 0:24:32.874 what the Olympics is kind of all about? What do 0:24:32.914 --> 0:24:33.553 you think college? 0:24:33.634 --> 0:24:36.994 I think athletes are a very very different breed to 0:24:37.194 --> 0:24:39.554 the rest of us. I might be like, oh, I've 0:24:39.554 --> 0:24:42.354 got a saw leg, Damn, I have to sit around 0:24:42.354 --> 0:24:44.594 and watch Bridgeton and e chocolates like that might be 0:24:44.674 --> 0:24:50.314 my position. But I've interviewed several athletes, including this amazing woman, 0:24:50.354 --> 0:24:54.834 Australian woman called Lydia Lassila. Right, she was an aerial skier, 0:24:54.914 --> 0:24:57.074 so they're the skiers who do all the tricks in 0:24:57.114 --> 0:25:00.834 the air, and she was amazing. She became an aerial 0:25:00.874 --> 0:25:03.554 skier because she was a gymnast and then she had 0:25:03.594 --> 0:25:06.914 like a career ending injury in gymnastics and was told 0:25:06.954 --> 0:25:09.914 you compete again, so again, instead of sitting down and 0:25:09.914 --> 0:25:13.194 watching Telly with her chocolates, she went and retrained as 0:25:13.314 --> 0:25:15.914 like as an aerial skier to compete in the Olympics 0:25:15.954 --> 0:25:18.114 in that way. She had a baby and everyone said, well, 0:25:18.234 --> 0:25:20.513 no one ever comes back after having a baby to 0:25:20.554 --> 0:25:22.954 the same level of fitness and wins. She proved them 0:25:22.994 --> 0:25:25.634 all wrong. Now she's a commentator on Channel nine for 0:25:25.674 --> 0:25:28.394 this Winter Olympics. But I remember when I talked to her, 0:25:28.554 --> 0:25:32.234 I just remember thinking, this is a different species of 0:25:32.314 --> 0:25:36.033 person in a way. Yeah that this just since they 0:25:36.074 --> 0:25:38.394 were tiny. I think for a lot of professional athletes, 0:25:39.074 --> 0:25:42.074 this is the drive that has been embedded in them 0:25:42.154 --> 0:25:44.914 and they don't necessarily know how to divert from that, 0:25:45.074 --> 0:25:48.314 and that can be an enormous strength, but it can 0:25:48.394 --> 0:25:51.874 also be it could also really put blinkers on you. 0:25:52.154 --> 0:25:54.394 I mean, look at she was forty one, right, Lindsay Vaughn. 0:25:54.474 --> 0:25:56.754 And the other thing that's cruel about sport is it's 0:25:56.754 --> 0:25:57.714 a place where. 0:25:57.474 --> 0:26:00.034 Ageism is kind of justified. 0:26:00.474 --> 0:26:02.994 Not necessarily because your body slows down if you're super 0:26:02.994 --> 0:26:04.794 fit and depending on your sport and all those things, 0:26:04.954 --> 0:26:08.234 but because of the accumulated injuries. So you know, it's 0:26:08.234 --> 0:26:11.033 not necessarily that Lindsay Vonn at forty one wasn't as 0:26:11.034 --> 0:26:13.553 fit or anything, but she's had years and years of 0:26:13.634 --> 0:26:16.594 her legs being smashed up, She's had knee reconstruction. 0:26:16.634 --> 0:26:18.074 Her good knee is made of titan. 0:26:18.234 --> 0:26:18.714 Yeah. 0:26:18.954 --> 0:26:21.154 But then you think about like a Tom Brady, you 0:26:21.154 --> 0:26:24.674 know who he retired, who's an American football player of 0:26:25.034 --> 0:26:28.794 much fame and adoration, and he retired, came back, retired, 0:26:28.834 --> 0:26:30.674 came back. He's like, I'm forty five, I'm still going 0:26:30.714 --> 0:26:32.394 to win the Super Bowl. I don't care, you know. 0:26:32.834 --> 0:26:36.194 I think there's just this drive and is it to 0:26:36.234 --> 0:26:38.754 be admired? I think is a question because sometimes I 0:26:38.794 --> 0:26:41.594 watch footballers say, oh, I played that whole ground final 0:26:41.634 --> 0:26:44.714 with a broken cheekbone, and I think, oh, I don't 0:26:44.754 --> 0:26:46.194 know if that's a good message. I don't know if 0:26:46.234 --> 0:26:49.954 I want kids to all think that, you know, so what, 0:26:50.034 --> 0:26:52.033 I've got a broken arm I play on or not. 0:26:52.794 --> 0:26:57.034 That's the dichotomy here. Is that a great thing for resilience, strengths, 0:26:57.034 --> 0:27:01.394 determination or is it kind of a super huge like 0:27:01.554 --> 0:27:03.754 not admitting that we are human and that we are 0:27:03.754 --> 0:27:06.914 weak and that we can sometimes have to change our plans. 0:27:07.194 --> 0:27:11.513 Well, it is broadly celebrated. The footballer who plays the 0:27:11.554 --> 0:27:15.594 Grand Final with the injuries. They look like they were 0:27:15.594 --> 0:27:18.674 sustained in a car accident. That is something that at 0:27:18.714 --> 0:27:22.074 the end you get the you know, player of the 0:27:22.074 --> 0:27:24.834 match thing and everyone applauds you and goes, wow, you're 0:27:24.874 --> 0:27:28.194 a gladiator and you were applaud that I suppose, but 0:27:28.234 --> 0:27:28.914 also it's like. 0:27:28.954 --> 0:27:29.634 Is it stupid? 0:27:30.474 --> 0:27:32.954 But then I was thinking about Simone Biles at the 0:27:32.994 --> 0:27:35.634 Olympics and when she got the twisties and that was 0:27:35.674 --> 0:27:40.474 when she you know, couldn't sense her body in space 0:27:40.554 --> 0:27:43.034 and she knew that competing would be dangerous and she went, 0:27:43.394 --> 0:27:45.434 I'm going to bow out because what I do is dangerous. 0:27:45.834 --> 0:27:49.434 Probably like not dissimilar to what vond does, and she 0:27:49.554 --> 0:27:49.914 got a. 0:27:49.834 --> 0:27:50.354 Lot of shit. 0:27:50.754 --> 0:27:53.593 A lot of people kind of went, you're a Twitter, 0:27:53.834 --> 0:27:57.674 You're a snowflake. What have we trained you for? What 0:27:57.714 --> 0:27:59.994 have we invested in if you can't just get up 0:28:00.034 --> 0:28:00.474 and do it. 0:28:00.714 --> 0:28:05.234 Although Naomi Orsaka said out of the Australian Open just recently, 0:28:05.874 --> 0:28:09.314 citing a particular issue with her body, which she didn't specify, 0:28:09.954 --> 0:28:12.354 and I don't think she got that kind of pushback. 0:28:12.474 --> 0:28:13.314 That's interesting. 0:28:13.634 --> 0:28:17.674 I read a quote from Lindsay where she said she 0:28:17.834 --> 0:28:21.154 tried to sort of universalize what she had done. She said, 0:28:21.194 --> 0:28:24.474 similar to ski racing, we take risks in life. We dream, 0:28:24.714 --> 0:28:28.313 we love, we jump, and sometimes we fall. Sometimes our 0:28:28.354 --> 0:28:31.194 hearts are broken. Sometimes we don't achieve the dreams we 0:28:31.234 --> 0:28:33.114 know we could have. But that is also the beauty 0:28:33.154 --> 0:28:35.634 of life. We can try. And I see what she's 0:28:35.634 --> 0:28:38.434 trying to do there, because I'm sure she's sensitive to 0:28:38.514 --> 0:28:42.314 the criticism that she's taking up a place that she's 0:28:42.354 --> 0:28:46.394 maybe even being physically reckless, and she's trying to say, 0:28:46.434 --> 0:28:50.034 but I'm doing this to show that you can always try, 0:28:50.194 --> 0:28:51.154 even if you fail. 0:28:51.674 --> 0:28:52.154 I don't know. 0:28:53.114 --> 0:28:56.514 I don't see a lot of myself or my life 0:28:56.674 --> 0:29:01.874 in this particular situation. I'm not necessarily buying this sort 0:29:01.874 --> 0:29:03.234 of analogy. 0:29:03.474 --> 0:29:06.514 Yeah, because when you distill that down, it's like because 0:29:06.554 --> 0:29:08.634 I want to do you know what I mean? It's like, 0:29:09.354 --> 0:29:13.994 why are you competing with a broken knee and you know, 0:29:14.394 --> 0:29:16.714 a bone bruise and this and that and an acy 0:29:16.954 --> 0:29:19.794 like because I want to? And it's like in a 0:29:19.834 --> 0:29:24.354 way that level of individual ambition celebrated or not. 0:29:24.674 --> 0:29:27.554 That's the that isn't that it's certainly not that relatable 0:29:28.554 --> 0:29:31.834 relatable Who the hell is watching the Winter Olympics because 0:29:31.834 --> 0:29:34.474 it's relatable. I can't do anything. I look at snow 0:29:34.474 --> 0:29:38.154 when I break my nature like I am horrified, but 0:29:38.194 --> 0:29:39.354 I would never take any of us. 0:29:40.074 --> 0:29:41.474 I start crying, yeah, exactly. 0:29:41.514 --> 0:29:45.434 You get cold fingers, it's very painful. But looking at 0:29:45.434 --> 0:29:48.954 these athletes, you just go there is something about them. 0:29:48.994 --> 0:29:52.154 They're superhuman. And Lindsay Vaughn has been doing this for 0:29:52.194 --> 0:29:56.074 twenty years. She knows her body, her team knows her body, 0:29:56.594 --> 0:30:01.114 and I think I completely understand why she competed because 0:30:01.154 --> 0:30:04.234 she probably won't ever get that opportuity like that was 0:30:04.234 --> 0:30:06.354 probably her last I would say her last. 0:30:06.474 --> 0:30:07.834 Gee won't get. 0:30:11.234 --> 0:30:16.114 All those years like and there is something about showing 0:30:16.194 --> 0:30:20.554 up in the face of adversity, like I. 0:30:19.994 --> 0:30:23.834 Do you sedged by that idea that she's really just 0:30:24.154 --> 0:30:26.754 doing this thing to show all of us that you 0:30:26.794 --> 0:30:29.234 can achieve what you want to achieve, and even if 0:30:29.274 --> 0:30:30.114 you don't, it's okay. 0:30:30.434 --> 0:30:33.754 Yeah, And also that there's a stunning there's a bravery 0:30:33.794 --> 0:30:37.394 to it, and also that that people like Lindsay vonn 0:30:37.554 --> 0:30:41.314 feel pain and have a different relationship with their bodies 0:30:41.394 --> 0:30:43.354 to what any of us have, which is why we 0:30:43.434 --> 0:30:46.034 will never ski in the Olympics, Like she's. 0:30:45.834 --> 0:30:48.354 A But your excuse for not skinning the Olympics is 0:30:48.354 --> 0:30:49.994 because you've got a plate in your leg and you're 0:30:50.034 --> 0:30:53.994 pregnant with twins. I say soft, I say soft. 0:30:54.234 --> 0:30:56.474 I didn't want to bring this up. But so Lindsay 0:30:56.514 --> 0:30:58.954 von broke a leg. Yes, who got exactly the same 0:30:58.954 --> 0:31:03.474 injury as Lindsay you did. Yeah, so she fractured her tiber. 0:31:03.234 --> 0:31:05.234 And look at you out there on the scheme Bye. 0:31:05.474 --> 0:31:08.874 Tripped over a rock. Lindsay was doing something a little 0:31:08.874 --> 0:31:11.074 bit different. She now needs to get all her surgery. 0:31:11.074 --> 0:31:12.874 She's going to get the pull through her leg. Give 0:31:12.914 --> 0:31:15.474 me a call, Lindsey, I can I can counsel you 0:31:15.554 --> 0:31:18.034 through it. It's going to be a long recovery. 0:31:17.674 --> 0:31:18.554 So much in common. 0:31:18.754 --> 0:31:22.034 Yeah, I'm bringing the least important segment of to day. 0:31:22.474 --> 0:31:23.874 Oh I thought I brought penises. 0:31:23.954 --> 0:31:25.034 Oh that's true. 0:31:25.674 --> 0:31:28.674 Okay, okay, that was that wasn't very important, but maybe 0:31:28.714 --> 0:31:31.634 even less important than whether or not penises are essential 0:31:31.954 --> 0:31:37.354 ballast for ski jumping is some relationship gossip. Who doesn't 0:31:37.434 --> 0:31:39.874 like that? Okay, I've got some things to share with you. 0:31:39.914 --> 0:31:42.754 Are you ready for a start? Immediately after the Super Bowl, 0:31:43.394 --> 0:31:45.514 we all remember the Super Bowl except for Melia. An 0:31:45.514 --> 0:31:48.754 American didn't wrong Holly. 0:31:49.234 --> 0:31:51.554 Listeners should know that Holly has been grabbing me by 0:31:51.594 --> 0:31:53.794 the shoulders all morning, begging me to watch the. 0:31:53.794 --> 0:31:56.994 Bad Bunny halftime Show. I of course watched the Alternative 0:31:57.034 --> 0:31:57.754 halftime show. 0:32:00.034 --> 0:32:01.874 I came she came. 0:32:01.754 --> 0:32:03.394 Into that, and I was like, what's it feel like 0:32:03.474 --> 0:32:05.434 to be from the nation of Bad Bunny? 0:32:05.914 --> 0:32:08.714 She me like that, what's crazy? Anyway? 0:32:08.754 --> 0:32:12.794 There have been some brutal sport adjacent actually relationship stories. 0:32:12.834 --> 0:32:15.594 So Cardi b who is a very famous artist, she 0:32:15.674 --> 0:32:17.474 was dancing at the casino at Brand Bunny. 0:32:17.874 --> 0:32:18.594 She goes out with. 0:32:18.554 --> 0:32:20.394 One of the footballers who was playing on the day 0:32:20.474 --> 0:32:22.754 and he lost and she immediately unfollowed. 0:32:22.394 --> 0:32:24.914 Him, and I think that's awesome. 0:32:25.194 --> 0:32:29.434 Okay, I have questions. Do we think something dramatic happened 0:32:29.514 --> 0:32:31.314 or do you think he's a loser and she couldn't wait. 0:32:31.474 --> 0:32:33.594 I think what had happened is Stephan Diggs, who was 0:32:33.594 --> 0:32:36.914 playing for the Patriots. They had probably already broken up, 0:32:37.034 --> 0:32:39.434 but she chose to wait till his lowest moment. 0:32:41.714 --> 0:32:44.314 She would have attempted to get back together if they won, 0:32:45.034 --> 0:32:45.714 so she was. 0:32:45.714 --> 0:32:49.114 Like loser on follow Everyone goes, oh my god, they've 0:32:49.154 --> 0:32:51.754 broken up. Kendall Jenner was dancing with our friend Haley 0:32:51.754 --> 0:32:54.554 b but she has just arrived in Australia, as discussed. 0:32:54.914 --> 0:32:57.514 But they were in the special box with your friends 0:32:57.634 --> 0:33:02.074 Kim Kardash Lewis Hamilton who went public at Super Bowl, 0:33:02.314 --> 0:33:04.354 and they were dancing holding hands, and I like to 0:33:04.394 --> 0:33:07.874 think that Haley was saying, it's right, Kendall, I know 0:33:07.954 --> 0:33:08.314 you used. 0:33:08.234 --> 0:33:09.514 To go out with bad buddy. 0:33:09.754 --> 0:33:12.794 Your mom will forgive you for having broken up with him, 0:33:12.914 --> 0:33:15.034 just as he becomes the most famous man in. 0:33:14.994 --> 0:33:15.714 The entire unit. 0:33:15.874 --> 0:33:17.154 So Kendall broke up with him. 0:33:17.274 --> 0:33:19.914 We don't know, Okay, they have been separated for a while, 0:33:19.994 --> 0:33:23.154 but it's the mixed feelings in that box would have 0:33:23.154 --> 0:33:27.634 been interesting, interesting, but particularly excellent. Right, it's a story 0:33:27.634 --> 0:33:30.794 that is coming out of the Winter Olympics, strangely enough. 0:33:31.074 --> 0:33:34.354 About a Norwegian by athlete. Now again, I'm so sorry. 0:33:34.394 --> 0:33:37.114 There must be lots of sports minded out louders who 0:33:37.194 --> 0:33:40.394 listen to us and just go what, I don't know 0:33:40.434 --> 0:33:41.274 what to No, Yeah. 0:33:41.194 --> 0:33:41.874 What is a bar? 0:33:42.034 --> 0:33:48.314 I thought it's. 0:33:45.394 --> 0:33:46.714 Two sports at the Winter Olympics. 0:33:46.714 --> 0:33:49.874 But so when I got seeing this by athlete, I'm like, 0:33:49.954 --> 0:33:50.834 I don't know what that is. 0:33:50.874 --> 0:33:51.594 I don't know what that is. 0:33:51.674 --> 0:33:55.434 Anyway, this is about this particular Norwegian skiing event where 0:33:55.514 --> 0:33:57.394 you ski cross country and you shoot. 0:33:58.234 --> 0:34:00.314 So this is what this chat, That's what I. 0:34:00.234 --> 0:34:02.194 Was doing in was. 0:34:04.154 --> 0:34:07.874 So I'm going to do my best with I'm not 0:34:07.954 --> 0:34:12.514 necessarily amazing on the Norwegian names. He's called Stuler home 0:34:12.634 --> 0:34:16.234 leg led right, and he won a bronze medal and 0:34:16.314 --> 0:34:19.514 the men's twenty kilometers event. And when he won, he 0:34:19.714 --> 0:34:23.994 made the after event press conference all about apologizing to 0:34:24.114 --> 0:34:27.834 his girlfriend who he had cheated on. Okay, so he 0:34:27.954 --> 0:34:32.274 said in front of all the cameras six months ago, 0:34:32.394 --> 0:34:34.434 I met the love of my life, the most beautiful 0:34:34.434 --> 0:34:37.354 and kindest person in the world. Three months ago. I 0:34:37.474 --> 0:34:40.393 made my biggest mistake and cheated on her. I told 0:34:40.434 --> 0:34:43.114 her about it a week ago. It's been the worst 0:34:43.234 --> 0:34:45.834 week of my life. I had a gold medal in 0:34:45.834 --> 0:34:47.473 my life and there are probably many who look at 0:34:47.474 --> 0:34:50.154 me with different eyes, but I only have eyes for her. 0:34:50.874 --> 0:34:53.514 Sport has come second these last few days. Yes, I 0:34:53.554 --> 0:34:55.634 wish I could share this with her. I do not 0:34:55.714 --> 0:34:57.354 want to say who it is. She's had enough to 0:34:57.394 --> 0:34:59.433 deal with after last week. But I hope there is 0:34:59.514 --> 0:35:01.154 light at the end of the tunnel for us both 0:35:01.154 --> 0:35:02.594 and that she will continue to go. 0:35:03.394 --> 0:35:06.434 Stiller, I got words for you, Stiller. 0:35:07.314 --> 0:35:09.873 So you met the most beautiful, perfect woman of your 0:35:09.914 --> 0:35:11.274 whole life. 0:35:10.954 --> 0:35:15.154 And then three months took you. Three months you cheated 0:35:15.274 --> 0:35:15.794 on her. 0:35:16.194 --> 0:35:17.914 When you were meant to be busy training. 0:35:18.554 --> 0:35:23.034 Well, maybe Bruna go if he wasn't so busy cheating. 0:35:23.994 --> 0:35:28.114 Do you if you're the ex girlfriend? If this was 0:35:28.154 --> 0:35:30.754 a rom com right, and she would have watched that, 0:35:30.794 --> 0:35:32.873 she would be crying on the couch with her girlfriends 0:35:32.874 --> 0:35:35.194 watching that, and then she they'd be like. 0:35:35.234 --> 0:35:36.154 What are you going to do? 0:35:36.274 --> 0:35:39.114 And she'd be like, I think I have to give 0:35:39.194 --> 0:35:40.034 him another chance. 0:35:41.594 --> 0:35:44.634 I'd be mortified. I'd be so mortified. The press is 0:35:44.634 --> 0:35:46.434 going to be on your in a hot minute. 0:35:46.514 --> 0:35:47.034 I like that. 0:35:47.154 --> 0:35:49.314 He was like, I don't know if she's going to 0:35:49.394 --> 0:35:51.994 be watching, but she was clearly watching. 0:35:52.154 --> 0:35:54.154 Yeah, she's clearly going to someone's going to send it 0:35:54.154 --> 0:35:55.393 to her and go have you seen this? 0:35:55.474 --> 0:35:56.354 What would you if? 0:35:56.394 --> 0:35:57.314 This is how we. 0:35:59.074 --> 0:36:00.314 How are we reacting? 0:36:01.114 --> 0:36:03.514 Like one week ago he told her that he cheated 0:36:03.514 --> 0:36:05.554 and they broke up, and now he's at the Olympics 0:36:05.554 --> 0:36:07.073 and he's not doing what would you change? 0:36:07.554 --> 0:36:12.034 He didn't even win God noted expert on what would 0:36:12.034 --> 0:36:12.354 you do? 0:36:12.954 --> 0:36:15.714 Nah, I wouldn't be taking him back. I'd be I'd 0:36:15.754 --> 0:36:19.194 be mortified by the whole thing. I think there are 0:36:19.234 --> 0:36:21.834 particular moments in your life where you've completely lost your 0:36:21.834 --> 0:36:23.274 mind and that man is in it, which is a 0:36:23.314 --> 0:36:25.154 shame because this was his one moment. 0:36:25.274 --> 0:36:28.714 I can do that to you. And though you. 0:36:27.954 --> 0:36:31.754 Needed to not make that about you cheating because that's 0:36:31.754 --> 0:36:33.954 irrelevant to your side. 0:36:34.074 --> 0:36:37.034 All your friends and everyone didn't know about the cheating part. 0:36:37.994 --> 0:36:41.194 It's so I just think the three months thing, mate. 0:36:41.994 --> 0:36:44.114 And then why did it take you another three months 0:36:44.154 --> 0:36:44.714 to tell her. 0:36:45.554 --> 0:36:49.274 He said that he hoped that that committing social suicide, 0:36:49.274 --> 0:36:51.554 which I think was him spilling all his guts in 0:36:51.594 --> 0:36:53.594 front of the camera, would help win her back. 0:36:54.354 --> 0:36:56.714 I don't think so. I'd think so, Stella. 0:36:56.794 --> 0:36:58.473 But we're all going to be watching and I have 0:36:58.594 --> 0:37:02.234 one more yes, excellent bit of relationship gossip to bring 0:37:02.274 --> 0:37:04.674 and drop on the table before you for us to 0:37:04.714 --> 0:37:07.314 pick over our friends. 0:37:07.634 --> 0:37:08.074 And Ben. 0:37:09.634 --> 0:37:11.354 Holy, you need to move on. 0:37:11.874 --> 0:37:15.393 They have been seen together many times lately. They were 0:37:15.394 --> 0:37:18.473 photographed holding hands together walking into Jimmy Kimmel a few 0:37:18.514 --> 0:37:20.913 weeks ago. There are been lots of signings on page six. 0:37:20.954 --> 0:37:23.354 They've been going around New York holding hands, kissing. 0:37:23.914 --> 0:37:27.194 They may be back together. How do we feel. 0:37:27.834 --> 0:37:30.994 Has Matt Damon not been through enough? That poor man 0:37:31.194 --> 0:37:35.434 is sitting there going, Ben's calling him. In fact, Ben's 0:37:35.434 --> 0:37:38.194 on the phone to him speaking and Ben's going, when's 0:37:38.194 --> 0:37:39.714 he gonna bring it up? And Matt's like, I'm not, 0:37:39.834 --> 0:37:42.194 I'm actually not. I can't take that on anymore. And 0:37:42.274 --> 0:37:45.474 his wife is going, we are done. We are done 0:37:45.634 --> 0:37:46.354 with Jennifer. 0:37:46.634 --> 0:37:48.794 I know. One of the best comments on the gossip 0:37:48.874 --> 0:37:52.074 post about it was just someone saying, imagine how pissed 0:37:52.114 --> 0:37:53.034 off their friends. 0:37:53.114 --> 0:37:56.913 Because we all know that couple, right, We're just like, no, 0:37:57.394 --> 0:38:00.114 should we get back together? No, we should not get 0:38:00.154 --> 0:38:00.874 back together. 0:38:01.994 --> 0:38:13.873 Oh dear, I would like to get a letter from 0:38:13.914 --> 0:38:17.274 Emmanuel mccrono. This is a thing that is happening, right, 0:38:17.874 --> 0:38:20.234 I know, But I am too old, literally too old 0:38:20.234 --> 0:38:23.234 to do that, because the French government is planning on 0:38:23.354 --> 0:38:26.754 sending a letter to all twenty nine year olds in France. 0:38:27.074 --> 0:38:30.234 They say letter. Do they mean letter? Do they mean email? 0:38:30.354 --> 0:38:31.314 Do they mean a drop? 0:38:31.394 --> 0:38:32.514 A leaflet drop in them? 0:38:33.394 --> 0:38:36.634 It's a very chic letter on French government. 0:38:36.354 --> 0:38:40.114 Letter send a letter to all twenty nine year olds 0:38:40.154 --> 0:38:43.194 in the country encouraging them to have babies before it 0:38:43.274 --> 0:38:45.514 is too late. Now we have touched on this topic 0:38:45.554 --> 0:38:48.274 a lot lately about fertility and da da da da da. 0:38:48.834 --> 0:38:51.114 Hundreds of thousands of young people are going to receive 0:38:51.154 --> 0:38:55.794 this letter which aims to sort of negate Franci's declining fertility, 0:38:55.834 --> 0:38:58.314 which is an issue that very many countries are facing. 0:38:58.794 --> 0:39:02.234 And the letter aims to provide targeted, balanced and scientifically 0:39:02.234 --> 0:39:06.034 based information on sexual and reproductive health to avoid the 0:39:06.154 --> 0:39:09.354 If only I had known mentality that the health ministry 0:39:09.434 --> 0:39:13.513 are worried young people have. Crucially, France is backing this up. 0:39:13.914 --> 0:39:16.514 Women from the age of twenty nine to thirty seven 0:39:16.674 --> 0:39:20.354 get their egg freezing costs covered in France under a 0:39:20.354 --> 0:39:21.154 health policy. 0:39:21.474 --> 0:39:24.754 So that's all good, right em Vernon would much prefer 0:39:24.794 --> 0:39:27.674 that letter than her taxes. She would be stoked to 0:39:27.714 --> 0:39:29.594 get this letter and just go who it's not a 0:39:29.634 --> 0:39:30.473 fine this is. 0:39:30.434 --> 0:39:34.154 An admin night that she would be really embracing. We've 0:39:34.194 --> 0:39:36.314 talked a lot, as I said, about this lately, so 0:39:36.394 --> 0:39:39.114 it's interesting. But what I want to know from my 0:39:39.194 --> 0:39:42.714 two smart friends is if you could letter drop every 0:39:42.794 --> 0:39:47.114 twenty nine year old in Australia, what would you put 0:39:47.194 --> 0:39:47.754 in the letter? 0:39:48.634 --> 0:39:52.554 Well, I feel like I'm constantly letter dropping my husband 0:39:52.674 --> 0:39:55.953 who is this age. Oh he is too, and I'm 0:39:55.994 --> 0:40:00.114 always just imbuing my wisdom on him because i do 0:40:00.154 --> 0:40:02.634 feel as though there's something that happens in your thirties 0:40:02.674 --> 0:40:06.034 where you just become a lot wiser than anyone pre thirty, 0:40:06.474 --> 0:40:11.034 and so I'm always I'm telling him that after twenty nine, 0:40:11.034 --> 0:40:13.393 I feel like your life speeds up. It feels like 0:40:13.514 --> 0:40:16.754 something's on fast forward and everything starts going really fast 0:40:17.354 --> 0:40:23.634 and there's this re prioritizing and also going like, oh, 0:40:23.994 --> 0:40:26.394 maybe you have more of a sense of time, maybe 0:40:26.714 --> 0:40:28.873 you know your parents are getting a little bit old 0:40:28.954 --> 0:40:31.914 or whatever. You have more of a sense of spending 0:40:31.954 --> 0:40:36.194 it intentionally. But I would also say it's not long 0:40:36.274 --> 0:40:40.114 before you're going to start hearing things like bone density, ah, 0:40:40.154 --> 0:40:43.433 and how important it is to do your weight training. Holy, 0:40:43.514 --> 0:40:48.274 you'll tell you. And if you're lost my thing. I 0:40:48.314 --> 0:40:51.274 spoke at my old high school this morning, and this 0:40:51.314 --> 0:40:53.953 is one of the things I said. If you are 0:40:54.114 --> 0:40:57.354 feeling lost at twenty nine and you're just kind of going, 0:40:58.154 --> 0:40:59.514 what do I do next? 0:40:59.594 --> 0:41:01.274 I don't know what my journey is whatever. 0:41:01.274 --> 0:41:02.714 The kids in your high school, by the way, would 0:41:02.714 --> 0:41:04.194 have been like twenty nine. 0:41:04.514 --> 0:41:05.554 But I need to walk in. 0:41:08.234 --> 0:41:10.874 Then think back to who you were at five, because 0:41:10.914 --> 0:41:14.114 I think there's always a hint there about who you are, 0:41:14.234 --> 0:41:16.074 like the truest sense of yourself, and you try and 0:41:16.114 --> 0:41:19.674 get away from the person that you were, even at school. 0:41:19.714 --> 0:41:21.393 I feel like your twenties are about trying to get 0:41:21.434 --> 0:41:24.034 away from who you were as a kid or as 0:41:24.074 --> 0:41:26.514 an adolescent, And like, I couldn't even look at pictures 0:41:26.554 --> 0:41:28.393 of me with all my dental work, and you know, 0:41:28.794 --> 0:41:31.953 like the awkwardness and the insecurity of that period, and 0:41:31.954 --> 0:41:34.674 then you go, oh, she actually knew what was up, 0:41:34.954 --> 0:41:36.594 Like I actually want to get back to that fourteen 0:41:36.674 --> 0:41:38.553 year old who was really weird and quirky and people 0:41:38.594 --> 0:41:40.473 gave her a hard time, Like, I think she's got 0:41:40.514 --> 0:41:44.314 more integrity than all the different identities you try on 0:41:44.434 --> 0:41:45.594 through your twenties. 0:41:46.794 --> 0:41:48.913 I do think twenty nine it is a bit of 0:41:48.954 --> 0:41:52.594 a turning point. Yeah, not least because particularly for women. 0:41:52.634 --> 0:41:54.354 I loved that the French government, by the way, sentence 0:41:54.394 --> 0:41:55.794 to men and women, Yes. 0:41:55.594 --> 0:41:58.194 Not just women, or did that It's going to everybody 0:41:58.234 --> 0:42:01.994 and maybe not Emmanuel himself, but they've said we want 0:42:02.194 --> 0:42:04.474 all French people to be aware of the biological clocks. 0:42:04.514 --> 0:42:07.714 We know male and female biological clocks different, but men 0:42:07.754 --> 0:42:08.194 have them too. 0:42:09.114 --> 0:42:11.913 I bet biological clock sounds great in friends, much better. 0:42:11.914 --> 0:42:13.514 Wish I knew what that was anyway. 0:42:13.594 --> 0:42:18.354 I think at twenty nine people start telling women in particular, 0:42:18.674 --> 0:42:23.513 don't panic, which of course made me panic because you're 0:42:23.594 --> 0:42:25.954 just going about your life and then all of a 0:42:25.994 --> 0:42:29.714 sudden people start saying you have time. But that makes 0:42:29.754 --> 0:42:32.874 me panic because I wasn't even thinking about time until 0:42:32.874 --> 0:42:35.594 I turned twenty nine and started thinking about it. Apparently 0:42:36.354 --> 0:42:40.754 Kendall Jenner, who we just spoke about, some wisdom from 0:42:40.834 --> 0:42:44.873 Kendall I am. She's all of thirty now. She designated 0:42:44.914 --> 0:42:48.234 twenty nine as the year she chose herself. And that's 0:42:48.314 --> 0:42:50.074 exactly what I said at twenty nine when I was 0:42:50.074 --> 0:42:51.154 broken up with Well, I. 0:42:51.074 --> 0:42:53.034 Wonder what Kendall Jenna was doing at twenty eight. 0:42:54.994 --> 0:42:57.674 She was choosing bad bunny. That was the issue. 0:42:57.994 --> 0:43:00.674 And so I thought long and hard about actually useful 0:43:00.674 --> 0:43:04.034 advice to tell twenty nine year olds all across Australia. 0:43:04.074 --> 0:43:04.754 And here it is. 0:43:05.074 --> 0:43:08.473 You are about to start being deep confused about what 0:43:08.594 --> 0:43:13.433 jeans to wear. Welcome, Welcome to the age of Jean's confusion. Yeah. 0:43:13.474 --> 0:43:14.913 It's only going to get worse from here. 0:43:15.234 --> 0:43:19.554 Yeah not okay, more than jeans those songs parts that 0:43:19.674 --> 0:43:23.033 Maya is wearing that are like what would you call them, 0:43:23.074 --> 0:43:24.194 like cutoffs like. 0:43:24.114 --> 0:43:25.954 She's wearing so obviously this isn't a. 0:43:27.194 --> 0:43:29.473 But she Maya has been getting around the office all 0:43:29.474 --> 0:43:33.154 week in these really big baggy they're jawts, really, but 0:43:33.154 --> 0:43:38.354 they're not jawts. They're like big baggy Bermuda shorts, visible socks, 0:43:38.674 --> 0:43:39.514 and sand shoes. 0:43:39.634 --> 0:43:41.394 Yeah, I'm confused. 0:43:41.074 --> 0:43:44.154 But she is dressing like my thirteen year old son exactly. 0:43:44.394 --> 0:43:47.314 Anyway, what would you tell twenty nine year olds. 0:43:48.234 --> 0:43:51.474 I think you're right about that, but you see, you 0:43:51.514 --> 0:43:52.234 wouldn't like me. 0:43:52.354 --> 0:43:54.474 Because I you say, don't panic. 0:43:54.554 --> 0:43:57.674 I say, thirty isn't a deadline, and forty isn't a deadline. Everybody, 0:43:57.874 --> 0:44:00.194 all the young women that I know and have worked 0:44:00.234 --> 0:44:00.594 with like that. 0:44:00.794 --> 0:44:02.274 That's my genuine advice. 0:44:02.434 --> 0:44:02.953 Is there's this. 0:44:03.434 --> 0:44:06.074 I think that the panic is deeply unhelpful. It might 0:44:06.114 --> 0:44:07.994 have worked out well if you go, I've got to 0:44:07.994 --> 0:44:09.434 get married and I've got to change my job, and 0:44:09.434 --> 0:44:10.954 I've got to do it, and you picked all the 0:44:10.994 --> 0:44:13.634 right things, but panic can put you in very You 0:44:13.674 --> 0:44:16.354 can make some very bad choices if you're like thinking. 0:44:16.674 --> 0:44:18.234 I said, before I was thirty, I was going to 0:44:18.434 --> 0:44:20.274 X Y Z, and I haven't, and so I have 0:44:20.394 --> 0:44:23.834 to Lots of interesting things will continue to happen to 0:44:23.874 --> 0:44:25.314 you after you turn thirty. 0:44:25.314 --> 0:44:26.994 So I would say that from a serious point of. 0:44:26.994 --> 0:44:31.234 View, But I would say, also eat more protein so 0:44:31.274 --> 0:44:33.674 you don't have to mainline it in your forties, which 0:44:33.674 --> 0:44:36.674 we have discussed a lot lately to take lots and 0:44:36.714 --> 0:44:37.074 lots of. 0:44:36.994 --> 0:44:37.714 Pictures of yourself. 0:44:37.714 --> 0:44:39.674 This used to be good advice, but now everyone does 0:44:39.714 --> 0:44:42.394 take lots and lots of pictures of themselves. But because 0:44:42.714 --> 0:44:45.074 there is nothing true. It's such a cliche. But every 0:44:45.074 --> 0:44:47.034 time I see a photo of myself, even from a 0:44:47.074 --> 0:44:49.634 year ago, five years ago, ten years ago, I can 0:44:49.674 --> 0:44:52.434 picture exactly what I thought of myself and my body 0:44:52.434 --> 0:44:54.834 and my face in that moment. And when I look 0:44:54.874 --> 0:44:55.994 at it from here, I'm. 0:44:55.794 --> 0:44:56.513 Just like you. 0:44:56.874 --> 0:44:57.834 That was the young week. 0:44:57.914 --> 0:45:00.194 But also but I feel compassionate. I was like you, 0:45:00.274 --> 0:45:03.754 sweet darling, you have no idea, like you look fucking great. Yeah, 0:45:03.794 --> 0:45:05.993 all those twenty nine year olds, That's what I'd say 0:45:06.034 --> 0:45:07.714 in the message, you look fucking great. 0:45:07.954 --> 0:45:08.194 Yep. 0:45:08.434 --> 0:45:10.593 Oh, every twenty nine year old looks so hot. 0:45:10.754 --> 0:45:12.634 Every twenty nine year old looks so hot. 0:45:12.794 --> 0:45:15.554 Just don't wear a bra like I just think it's 0:45:15.714 --> 0:45:16.513 like if Nora. 0:45:16.594 --> 0:45:18.834 Everyone said, basically, if you're in your twenties, you should 0:45:18.874 --> 0:45:20.114 be wearing a bikini every day. 0:45:20.474 --> 0:45:21.434 Oh, it's so true. 0:45:21.594 --> 0:45:24.114 I agree, and I think, kind of fuck it is 0:45:24.434 --> 0:45:26.674 that I still think. I don't think you have to 0:45:26.714 --> 0:45:29.114 be like I'm tipping into thirty, so now I have 0:45:29.154 --> 0:45:32.554 to get serious, like no, be be that five year 0:45:32.554 --> 0:45:33.034 old person. 0:45:33.074 --> 0:45:34.314 That's what I say, be that five years. 0:45:34.394 --> 0:45:37.794 I just can't imagine the existential crisis this letter appearing 0:45:37.794 --> 0:45:39.393 in your in your mailbox, though. 0:45:39.394 --> 0:45:41.354 Can you imagine, you know, like you used to? 0:45:41.514 --> 0:45:43.834 Maybe you still do if you turn one hundred, get 0:45:43.874 --> 0:45:46.794 a telegram from the Queen slash king now and it's 0:45:46.794 --> 0:45:49.034 something to aspire to. And I can just imagine all 0:45:49.034 --> 0:45:52.114 these young people like going, oh no, I'm nearly at 0:45:52.114 --> 0:45:55.194 the time when I get the letter from the problem Minister. 0:45:55.594 --> 0:45:58.834 They're French, They're used to existential crises every day. 0:45:58.874 --> 0:46:02.074 It's I just I can't think of anything less sexy 0:46:02.434 --> 0:46:04.834 than the been a manual. 0:46:06.634 --> 0:46:08.514 I don't know, I think that's fairly sexy. 0:46:08.794 --> 0:46:11.873 We'll just send a photo with you shut off macarn 0:46:12.114 --> 0:46:13.914 like that might be sexier for people. 0:46:14.274 --> 0:46:16.354 Make more little French men like me. 0:46:16.874 --> 0:46:20.634 Here's here's me. Here's a few pigs from the winters. 0:46:20.674 --> 0:46:22.953 He's quite little, and here's a link to the Bad 0:46:22.954 --> 0:46:26.114 Bunny performance. Get it on. That's gonna do more for 0:46:26.154 --> 0:46:29.514 the birth rate than a weird letter with your letter head, Oh. 0:46:29.314 --> 0:46:33.554 Dear, maybe thankfully that's all we've got today. That was 0:46:33.594 --> 0:46:37.034 a show that went all over the place. Thank you 0:46:37.114 --> 0:46:39.194 out Louders for being here with us through all that. 0:46:39.314 --> 0:46:41.034 Thank you to Meyvie less of a coming back and 0:46:41.114 --> 0:46:43.794 straight off a plane, straight off your. 0:46:43.714 --> 0:46:46.394 Talk about pushing the limits of the possible. 0:46:48.154 --> 0:46:51.914 Vonn right now, straight off your Hailey Baldwin flight with 0:46:52.194 --> 0:46:55.994 Baba Oh. That was a throwback beab flight to be 0:46:56.114 --> 0:46:58.194 with us, and thanks for brilliant team for helping us 0:46:58.194 --> 0:47:00.714 put it together. As always, we'll be back in your 0:47:00.714 --> 0:47:01.554 ears tomorrow. 0:47:01.834 --> 0:47:12.314 Bye. 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