1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,385 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,425 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:23,825 Speaker 1: recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously. 4 00:00:23,425 --> 00:00:27,865 Speaker 2: Disturb laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have 5 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 2: to do it. You live for fashion. 6 00:00:31,345 --> 00:00:34,105 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 7 00:00:34,185 --> 00:00:38,105 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 8 00:00:38,105 --> 00:00:40,185 Speaker 1: and every week I chat to an expert who helps 9 00:00:40,265 --> 00:00:41,865 Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the 10 00:00:41,865 --> 00:00:45,745 Speaker 1: clothes and accessories we already own and tells us exactly 11 00:00:45,785 --> 00:00:48,945 Speaker 1: what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. So 12 00:00:49,105 --> 00:00:52,705 Speaker 1: today we're joined by someone who proves that great style 13 00:00:52,865 --> 00:00:56,025 Speaker 1: isn't just about what you wear, it's how you wear it. 14 00:00:56,505 --> 00:01:00,585 Speaker 1: Nat Jacobson is a personal shopper, stylist, content creator, and 15 00:01:00,665 --> 00:01:03,505 Speaker 1: she's an a mission to help women feel pulled together, confident, 16 00:01:03,585 --> 00:01:06,065 Speaker 1: and totally themselves. They might be getting on a plane 17 00:01:06,065 --> 00:01:08,665 Speaker 1: to Paris, or they might be picking up some vegemite 18 00:01:08,665 --> 00:01:12,225 Speaker 1: scrolls after drop. So Nat has a background in fashion 19 00:01:12,345 --> 00:01:15,705 Speaker 1: and an eye for detail that is honestly so incredible 20 00:01:15,745 --> 00:01:21,025 Speaker 1: it makes outfitsing. NAT's Instagram is part mood board, part masterclass, 21 00:01:21,465 --> 00:01:24,785 Speaker 1: from chic layering inspo to the most perfect stacks of 22 00:01:24,865 --> 00:01:27,545 Speaker 1: jewelry you've ever seen. So today you see to help 23 00:01:27,585 --> 00:01:30,905 Speaker 1: us with just that jewelry, how to wear more than 24 00:01:30,985 --> 00:01:35,465 Speaker 1: just one piece, how to stack what colors gold, silver, rose, gold, 25 00:01:35,905 --> 00:01:37,825 Speaker 1: and the fact that this is the way you can 26 00:01:37,825 --> 00:01:40,465 Speaker 1: get personal style and there's no rules. So whether you're 27 00:01:40,465 --> 00:01:42,545 Speaker 1: looking to level up your accessory game or want to 28 00:01:42,585 --> 00:01:46,425 Speaker 1: get started with wearing jewelry, Nat is our person for 29 00:01:46,465 --> 00:01:49,625 Speaker 1: the job. Welcome Nat to the show. I'm very excited 30 00:01:49,665 --> 00:01:52,025 Speaker 1: to have you here. We're going to chat about jewelry 31 00:01:52,065 --> 00:01:54,825 Speaker 1: and how to effortlessly layer and look like you haven't 32 00:01:54,825 --> 00:01:58,225 Speaker 1: put any effort in. But first all new guests have 33 00:01:58,305 --> 00:02:00,825 Speaker 1: to answer to your questions. The first one is can 34 00:02:00,865 --> 00:02:02,985 Speaker 1: you describe your own style in three words? 35 00:02:03,225 --> 00:02:08,145 Speaker 2: Ah? I would say my style is che it's playful, 36 00:02:08,345 --> 00:02:09,425 Speaker 2: and it's unique. 37 00:02:09,745 --> 00:02:12,465 Speaker 1: I so agree playful. I love that Cardian Not that 38 00:02:12,465 --> 00:02:14,225 Speaker 1: we're here to talk about the actual clothes. Where is 39 00:02:14,225 --> 00:02:14,545 Speaker 1: that from? 40 00:02:14,705 --> 00:02:16,185 Speaker 2: This is from Kitty van Kon song. 41 00:02:16,345 --> 00:02:21,145 Speaker 1: Oh It's delicious. It's so clever, colorful, beautiful, fun I 42 00:02:21,225 --> 00:02:23,825 Speaker 1: love it. Now there's a theory that rings pretty true 43 00:02:23,865 --> 00:02:26,745 Speaker 1: with most people. That we have a wardrobe full of clothes. 44 00:02:26,865 --> 00:02:28,705 Speaker 1: Might not be huge, might be big or small, but 45 00:02:28,785 --> 00:02:30,785 Speaker 1: there's a ten percent of that wardrobe that we just 46 00:02:30,825 --> 00:02:33,705 Speaker 1: reach for over and over. We like the other stuff, 47 00:02:33,745 --> 00:02:36,665 Speaker 1: but it's just those essentials that we love throw on 48 00:02:36,745 --> 00:02:38,745 Speaker 1: all the time. What's in your ten percent? 49 00:02:38,945 --> 00:02:41,385 Speaker 2: A white T shirt and a white singler That's like 50 00:02:41,425 --> 00:02:42,785 Speaker 2: what I grab all the time. 51 00:02:43,225 --> 00:02:44,785 Speaker 1: And is that because it's a good base to then 52 00:02:44,785 --> 00:02:46,265 Speaker 1: a layer the rest hundred one? 53 00:02:46,945 --> 00:02:53,465 Speaker 2: Where's your favorites from Henny? Yeah, Henny's amazing, Yeah, basic, Yep, 54 00:02:53,545 --> 00:02:56,345 Speaker 2: they also do great one. I agreed, Jack and Jack. 55 00:02:56,945 --> 00:02:59,025 Speaker 1: I haven't thought of them. I'm obsessed with the Uniglo 56 00:02:59,345 --> 00:03:02,665 Speaker 1: men's white teeth. Yeah, but now I've got some water. Trye. 57 00:03:02,825 --> 00:03:06,185 Speaker 1: You're here to talk about jewelry and hell past kind 58 00:03:06,185 --> 00:03:10,305 Speaker 1: of work out how to do it and even sometimes 59 00:03:10,265 --> 00:03:12,145 Speaker 1: were to start because I know for me, you know, 60 00:03:12,185 --> 00:03:13,985 Speaker 1: I do love jewelry, but I'm rushing around. I've got 61 00:03:14,025 --> 00:03:15,225 Speaker 1: to get to the office. I've got a five year 62 00:03:15,265 --> 00:03:17,545 Speaker 1: old and my bedroom's upstairs. I think, oh, I haven't 63 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:19,385 Speaker 1: put anything on, But when I run up and put 64 00:03:19,425 --> 00:03:21,825 Speaker 1: a few pieces on, I always feel like my outfit 65 00:03:22,425 --> 00:03:26,105 Speaker 1: looks more thought through. So let's talk about it. When 66 00:03:26,105 --> 00:03:28,825 Speaker 1: you're styling jewelry, what's the first thing you consider before 67 00:03:28,865 --> 00:03:30,785 Speaker 1: you start layering pieces? 68 00:03:31,705 --> 00:03:35,185 Speaker 2: Listen, I mean, I wear all my jewelry every day. 69 00:03:35,305 --> 00:03:38,785 Speaker 2: I sleep in my jewelry. So once I've built my stack, 70 00:03:39,665 --> 00:03:42,625 Speaker 2: it's on the only thing that I change are my 71 00:03:42,745 --> 00:03:45,625 Speaker 2: rings and sometimes my ear rings. 72 00:03:45,745 --> 00:03:47,265 Speaker 1: I am looking at you. It's funny because I'm like 73 00:03:47,305 --> 00:03:48,705 Speaker 1: looking at all your gorgeous pieces. 74 00:03:48,825 --> 00:03:53,465 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so bracelet's stay on necklaces. 75 00:03:52,985 --> 00:03:54,225 Speaker 1: Staying and everything. 76 00:03:56,065 --> 00:03:59,025 Speaker 2: So my rings are really what I change based on 77 00:03:59,065 --> 00:03:59,745 Speaker 2: what I'm wearing. 78 00:04:00,025 --> 00:04:02,185 Speaker 1: Why. Yeah, So it's kind of a set and forget, 79 00:04:02,185 --> 00:04:05,105 Speaker 1: which is very cool, exactly, and then you might tweak 80 00:04:05,225 --> 00:04:07,345 Speaker 1: and remove one or two things depending on. 81 00:04:07,345 --> 00:04:09,145 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That's what I do. 82 00:04:09,665 --> 00:04:10,785 Speaker 1: It's not that much effort. 83 00:04:10,825 --> 00:04:12,985 Speaker 2: It's not that much effort. The only time i may 84 00:04:13,025 --> 00:04:14,425 Speaker 2: mix it up a little bit more is when I'm 85 00:04:14,425 --> 00:04:15,105 Speaker 2: on holidays. 86 00:04:15,185 --> 00:04:17,425 Speaker 1: Yes, I know, that's funny. I have a few little 87 00:04:17,505 --> 00:04:19,185 Speaker 1: holiday jewelry wardrobe pieces. 88 00:04:19,265 --> 00:04:20,345 Speaker 2: Yeah. 89 00:04:20,745 --> 00:04:23,625 Speaker 1: Fun I want to actually ask you where did this 90 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:27,465 Speaker 1: love of jewelry and layering and trinkets come from? 91 00:04:27,545 --> 00:04:30,265 Speaker 2: So, okay, this is. It's not embarrassing, but it is 92 00:04:30,305 --> 00:04:32,225 Speaker 2: what it is. So I don't know. If you watch 93 00:04:32,265 --> 00:04:35,945 Speaker 2: the Rachel Zoe projects, of course, oh my god, that's 94 00:04:35,985 --> 00:04:39,185 Speaker 2: when my love for jewelry started. Like I watched that 95 00:04:39,265 --> 00:04:42,705 Speaker 2: show religiously and I was constantly looking at her hands 96 00:04:42,705 --> 00:04:45,985 Speaker 2: and her jewelry. And that's when it started for me. 97 00:04:46,305 --> 00:04:48,065 Speaker 1: And that was quite a while ago when there wasn't 98 00:04:48,065 --> 00:04:49,825 Speaker 1: as much that choice. 99 00:04:49,945 --> 00:04:52,585 Speaker 2: No, but that's when it all started for me. I 100 00:04:52,585 --> 00:04:54,705 Speaker 2: think my first couple of pieces were like Anita co, 101 00:04:56,025 --> 00:04:58,025 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that another is still around, 102 00:04:58,105 --> 00:04:58,865 Speaker 2: She's still around. 103 00:04:58,945 --> 00:05:00,745 Speaker 1: How can you find out about all these brands? 104 00:05:00,825 --> 00:05:03,345 Speaker 2: I'm in the world. I'm in the world of it. 105 00:05:03,585 --> 00:05:05,745 Speaker 1: Your algorithm must just be jewelry, jewelry. 106 00:05:05,785 --> 00:05:08,465 Speaker 2: It is. It's jewelry, it's clothes, it's everything. Yeah, but 107 00:05:08,505 --> 00:05:12,185 Speaker 2: I love it Meto the best. Yeah, it's a sickness. 108 00:05:14,025 --> 00:05:17,625 Speaker 1: Now we have a lot of listeners asked this question. 109 00:05:18,305 --> 00:05:20,505 Speaker 1: People say, I don't know if I'm a gold person. 110 00:05:20,505 --> 00:05:22,465 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a silver person, or I 111 00:05:22,505 --> 00:05:26,185 Speaker 1: am gold or I am silver, and then they get confused. 112 00:05:26,705 --> 00:05:29,625 Speaker 1: So talk to me about mixing the different kind of 113 00:05:29,705 --> 00:05:32,665 Speaker 1: metals and how we can do that, and is that allowed? 114 00:05:32,985 --> 00:05:35,265 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it is allowed for sure. I mean 115 00:05:35,345 --> 00:05:39,625 Speaker 2: I'm wearing a white gold necklace and then I've got 116 00:05:39,665 --> 00:05:42,705 Speaker 2: a bit of yellow gold up here. Yes, so I 117 00:05:42,825 --> 00:05:45,465 Speaker 2: definitely think you can mix, and yeah, it does work. 118 00:05:46,305 --> 00:05:48,625 Speaker 2: I'm more of a yellow gold person. I've got a 119 00:05:48,665 --> 00:05:51,305 Speaker 2: little bit of rose gold, so I'm mixing at all. 120 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:53,985 Speaker 1: If someone's starting out, you know, they've got a few pieces, 121 00:05:54,225 --> 00:05:56,265 Speaker 1: but they really want to get into the accessory game. 122 00:05:56,865 --> 00:05:59,705 Speaker 1: Do you think they kind of choose their gold? And 123 00:05:59,745 --> 00:06:01,665 Speaker 1: when I say gold, we're not talking fine jewelry. It 124 00:06:01,665 --> 00:06:03,865 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be you know, eighteen carrot gold. We're 125 00:06:03,865 --> 00:06:05,905 Speaker 1: just being the color, right. Do you think that they 126 00:06:05,945 --> 00:06:10,025 Speaker 1: start building their collection around one sort of color and 127 00:06:10,105 --> 00:06:10,625 Speaker 1: go from there. 128 00:06:10,825 --> 00:06:14,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I definitely think to stick to one color. 129 00:06:14,385 --> 00:06:17,065 Speaker 1: Yeah, because combining it all is easier if you're a beginner. 130 00:06:19,425 --> 00:06:21,545 Speaker 2: Look, I just think that you need to know what 131 00:06:21,665 --> 00:06:26,225 Speaker 2: color gold suits your skin, and there's definitely something in that. 132 00:06:26,505 --> 00:06:29,745 Speaker 2: Rose gold is just softer on some skin timer. 133 00:06:29,545 --> 00:06:31,785 Speaker 1: Rose old girl. But I do I mix them, but 134 00:06:31,825 --> 00:06:32,745 Speaker 1: I'm mostly rose. 135 00:06:32,865 --> 00:06:34,985 Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to be too, and then I moved 136 00:06:35,025 --> 00:06:36,145 Speaker 2: over to yellow gold. 137 00:06:36,745 --> 00:06:38,665 Speaker 1: It's hard to find rose gold. There's not a lot 138 00:06:38,665 --> 00:06:41,345 Speaker 1: of pieces and particular costume jewelry as well. 139 00:06:41,385 --> 00:06:41,745 Speaker 2: I agree. 140 00:06:41,865 --> 00:06:45,105 Speaker 1: I feel like gold and rose gold together. I don't 141 00:06:45,105 --> 00:06:47,825 Speaker 1: find that effect metal, but it's good to have a 142 00:06:47,865 --> 00:06:48,305 Speaker 1: bit of both. 143 00:06:48,385 --> 00:06:50,265 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. 144 00:06:50,825 --> 00:06:52,865 Speaker 1: How do people work out which one suits them? Just 145 00:06:52,865 --> 00:06:54,265 Speaker 1: what they are drawn to? 146 00:06:54,545 --> 00:06:56,825 Speaker 2: It's what feels right in your gut. Yeah, And I 147 00:06:56,865 --> 00:06:59,385 Speaker 2: really think it's important for women to lean into that 148 00:06:59,705 --> 00:07:02,545 Speaker 2: and trust their instinct and if that's what you're drawn to, 149 00:07:03,225 --> 00:07:04,385 Speaker 2: go with it. 150 00:07:04,665 --> 00:07:06,545 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you say that, because I know getting 151 00:07:06,545 --> 00:07:08,265 Speaker 1: your colors done is a big thing. And I had 152 00:07:08,305 --> 00:07:10,385 Speaker 1: mine done and the woman was amazed. But then the 153 00:07:10,425 --> 00:07:11,905 Speaker 1: month after that, I was like, oh, I can't wear 154 00:07:11,945 --> 00:07:14,305 Speaker 1: that off. But I was like, I think I look good. 155 00:07:14,345 --> 00:07:17,305 Speaker 1: I feel good. It brings me joy. If it's technically 156 00:07:17,345 --> 00:07:20,945 Speaker 1: not my color, who cares? And same with jewelry R. 157 00:07:20,865 --> 00:07:22,665 Speaker 2: One hundred percent, yes, one hundred percent. 158 00:07:23,145 --> 00:07:25,465 Speaker 1: Yes, we don't all have a million dollars. Fine jewelry 159 00:07:25,505 --> 00:07:27,305 Speaker 1: is expensive, so we kind of call that, you know, 160 00:07:27,385 --> 00:07:31,265 Speaker 1: fancy proper diamonds and gold fine jewelry. But then there's 161 00:07:31,345 --> 00:07:34,065 Speaker 1: kind of more. I guess costume jewelry is not really 162 00:07:34,065 --> 00:07:36,385 Speaker 1: the right word because I just think of like cheap 163 00:07:36,585 --> 00:07:40,225 Speaker 1: kids stuff, but you know, just fashion jewelry that's more affordable, 164 00:07:40,265 --> 00:07:44,265 Speaker 1: particularly if we're looking to layer. So do you have 165 00:07:44,345 --> 00:07:47,265 Speaker 1: some go to brands that you like or recommend to 166 00:07:47,345 --> 00:07:49,745 Speaker 1: clients or you've just seen doing well? 167 00:07:50,465 --> 00:07:53,425 Speaker 2: A brand that I love constantly and wear and mix 168 00:07:53,545 --> 00:07:56,465 Speaker 2: in with what I've got is Karlie Paker. 169 00:07:56,745 --> 00:07:57,745 Speaker 1: Oh, never heard of that. 170 00:07:57,945 --> 00:08:01,785 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very beachy, and that's right up my alley. 171 00:08:01,905 --> 00:08:03,265 Speaker 2: So she's got everything. 172 00:08:02,945 --> 00:08:06,025 Speaker 1: So a bit bohemian, Yeah, yeah, a little bit. 173 00:08:06,385 --> 00:08:09,025 Speaker 2: She's also like so she's got the gold pieces and 174 00:08:09,025 --> 00:08:12,185 Speaker 2: then she's got a little beaded pieces. It's just very 175 00:08:12,225 --> 00:08:15,865 Speaker 2: summary and beachy and I love, love love her brand. 176 00:08:16,505 --> 00:08:20,905 Speaker 2: Then I also love by Charlotte. Yes, they also have 177 00:08:20,985 --> 00:08:23,945 Speaker 2: some nice pieces. A little bit up from that is 178 00:08:23,985 --> 00:08:27,825 Speaker 2: Sarah and Sebastian obviously they're a nice brand. And Arms 179 00:08:27,825 --> 00:08:33,265 Speaker 2: of Eve also amazing amazing pieces. Yeah yeah, and one 180 00:08:33,265 --> 00:08:35,265 Speaker 2: of those are Aussie. Yeah love that yeah. 181 00:08:35,305 --> 00:08:35,465 Speaker 1: Yeah. 182 00:08:35,505 --> 00:08:44,665 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:08:44,745 --> 00:08:49,025 Speaker 1: We want to start experimenting layering. Where do we start? 184 00:08:49,145 --> 00:08:52,065 Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of a wrist girl, You're and 185 00:08:52,145 --> 00:08:55,825 Speaker 1: everything jewelry. Is there an area do you think that 186 00:08:55,825 --> 00:08:58,385 Speaker 1: you should start building your collection or should you you know, 187 00:08:58,545 --> 00:09:00,825 Speaker 1: focus on the race, focus on the fingers, focus on 188 00:09:00,825 --> 00:09:03,585 Speaker 1: the neck. I mean it's individual. But do you think 189 00:09:03,585 --> 00:09:04,865 Speaker 1: necklaces maybe. 190 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:08,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I love necklaces, and I think wearing necklaces, 191 00:09:08,065 --> 00:09:10,425 Speaker 2: like if you're wearing a high neck top, breaks up 192 00:09:10,625 --> 00:09:13,065 Speaker 2: and it just shows something on the neck. And I 193 00:09:13,105 --> 00:09:15,705 Speaker 2: think whenever I'm styling somebody, I'm like, you just need 194 00:09:15,705 --> 00:09:18,665 Speaker 2: a little necklace just to like break up what's going 195 00:09:18,705 --> 00:09:21,625 Speaker 2: on there. I love and I always tell people you 196 00:09:21,665 --> 00:09:24,585 Speaker 2: always need to have like a V necktop, Yes, show 197 00:09:24,665 --> 00:09:27,345 Speaker 2: some skin, to have a little necklace just sitting there, 198 00:09:27,465 --> 00:09:29,225 Speaker 2: a little bit of sparkle, or even if it's like 199 00:09:29,225 --> 00:09:31,985 Speaker 2: a colorful beaded necklace, it's just a little something. 200 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:34,385 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of finishes it off the outfit. Yeah. 201 00:09:34,545 --> 00:09:36,505 Speaker 1: When you say high necktop, do you mean so that 202 00:09:36,625 --> 00:09:37,825 Speaker 1: like that then it sits over. 203 00:09:38,105 --> 00:09:39,905 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sits over. So if you're wearing like 204 00:09:39,945 --> 00:09:42,305 Speaker 2: a round necktop, yeah, I have a necklace that just 205 00:09:42,345 --> 00:09:44,625 Speaker 2: sits on top of a white T shirt. I just 206 00:09:44,665 --> 00:09:45,225 Speaker 2: think it's. 207 00:09:45,105 --> 00:09:47,465 Speaker 1: Nice funny you say white t shirt because I've got 208 00:09:47,505 --> 00:09:49,305 Speaker 1: black high necktops. But then if I put a chain on. 209 00:09:49,345 --> 00:09:51,385 Speaker 1: I feel like I look like the rock. You know, Yes, 210 00:09:51,905 --> 00:09:54,345 Speaker 1: you wore the black total neck with the big chain. 211 00:09:54,425 --> 00:09:56,545 Speaker 2: Yes, But then I also think it's nice to hide 212 00:09:56,585 --> 00:09:59,545 Speaker 2: your necklaces. I really do. And I even like it's 213 00:09:59,705 --> 00:10:02,505 Speaker 2: kind of funny, like just to have that little bit 214 00:10:02,665 --> 00:10:05,985 Speaker 2: of chain detail coming through at the top of a top. 215 00:10:06,065 --> 00:10:07,505 Speaker 2: You know you've got it, but you don't want to 216 00:10:07,545 --> 00:10:08,105 Speaker 2: show it. 217 00:10:08,105 --> 00:10:09,745 Speaker 1: It's really subtle, it's really. 218 00:10:10,705 --> 00:10:12,945 Speaker 2: And yeah, you just let your black top do the talking. 219 00:10:12,985 --> 00:10:15,225 Speaker 2: If that's the sort of sleek look that you're going for, 220 00:10:15,265 --> 00:10:17,625 Speaker 2: you you need to always show you jewelry. I often 221 00:10:17,705 --> 00:10:18,105 Speaker 2: hide it. 222 00:10:18,305 --> 00:10:20,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be wearing it, but it's not making 223 00:10:20,185 --> 00:10:22,745 Speaker 1: a huge statement. You don't take it off. It's just 224 00:10:22,785 --> 00:10:26,545 Speaker 1: like you've got your undis on top of exactly, yes, exactly, 225 00:10:26,745 --> 00:10:29,185 Speaker 1: I love it. I find that a lot of friends 226 00:10:29,265 --> 00:10:30,985 Speaker 1: of mine that you know, really love fashion, but they 227 00:10:31,065 --> 00:10:33,945 Speaker 1: might just have what I call, quote unquote a normal job. 228 00:10:33,985 --> 00:10:35,505 Speaker 1: They don't get to sit here and talk about jewelry 229 00:10:35,505 --> 00:10:37,865 Speaker 1: all day, but they kind of save their jewelry for 230 00:10:38,625 --> 00:10:41,225 Speaker 1: going out. Yes, so they're going out to dinner or 231 00:10:41,265 --> 00:10:43,385 Speaker 1: they've got a wedding, but other than that, they kind 232 00:10:43,425 --> 00:10:45,905 Speaker 1: of don't really they might have their wedding ring if 233 00:10:45,905 --> 00:10:48,465 Speaker 1: they're married, or you know, some earrings. But talk to 234 00:10:48,465 --> 00:10:52,265 Speaker 1: me about jewelry for casual outfits because I actually prefer 235 00:10:52,425 --> 00:10:56,705 Speaker 1: layering for more casual every day where just wear it. 236 00:10:56,905 --> 00:10:57,225 Speaker 1: Just wear. 237 00:10:57,385 --> 00:10:59,145 Speaker 2: I mean that's all I can say, Like what are 238 00:10:59,145 --> 00:11:01,945 Speaker 2: you saving it for? And you could be wearing a 239 00:11:01,985 --> 00:11:04,785 Speaker 2: tracksuit and have your jewels on, and it just elevates 240 00:11:04,785 --> 00:11:07,905 Speaker 2: the whole look. I don't save anything I love, like, 241 00:11:08,105 --> 00:11:08,945 Speaker 2: there's just no point. 242 00:11:09,065 --> 00:11:11,385 Speaker 1: There's no point. And I also think if you're going 243 00:11:11,385 --> 00:11:13,505 Speaker 1: somewhere fancy, you might have, you know, a beautiful suit 244 00:11:13,865 --> 00:11:16,585 Speaker 1: or dress, and oftentimes that's making the statement, and you 245 00:11:16,665 --> 00:11:17,785 Speaker 1: might want a simple. 246 00:11:17,505 --> 00:11:19,145 Speaker 2: As And that's what I was going to say to you. 247 00:11:19,185 --> 00:11:21,745 Speaker 2: When I actually go out and I do get dressed up, 248 00:11:21,785 --> 00:11:24,265 Speaker 2: that's when I pair back. That's when I take a 249 00:11:24,385 --> 00:11:27,345 Speaker 2: lot of this stuff off and I keep it super minimal. 250 00:11:27,585 --> 00:11:30,145 Speaker 1: Yes, and then you're every day at casual clothes, Like 251 00:11:30,185 --> 00:11:31,905 Speaker 1: you say, you might be in a tracksuit, I'm doing 252 00:11:31,985 --> 00:11:33,705 Speaker 1: the school run. But if i've you know, got my. 253 00:11:33,945 --> 00:11:35,025 Speaker 2: That's when I start the stack. 254 00:11:35,265 --> 00:11:38,105 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that, And you know what, that's a 255 00:11:38,105 --> 00:11:42,145 Speaker 1: lot less washing and dry cleaning. I love it. Fashion 256 00:11:42,225 --> 00:11:48,065 Speaker 1: moves in trends faster than ever before. Does jewelry too, Uh, 257 00:11:48,145 --> 00:11:48,585 Speaker 1: not for me. 258 00:11:49,025 --> 00:11:52,345 Speaker 2: I don't lean into trends for actually anything, not for fashion, 259 00:11:52,585 --> 00:11:56,945 Speaker 2: not for jewelry. Again, it is a personal taste and 260 00:11:56,985 --> 00:11:57,825 Speaker 2: you have to wear what. 261 00:11:57,825 --> 00:12:01,065 Speaker 1: Suits you, okay, But generally, like say we're just going 262 00:12:01,145 --> 00:12:03,185 Speaker 1: to the US field and you've got your Levis or 263 00:12:03,185 --> 00:12:06,265 Speaker 1: you might go into Maya or David Jones. Do trends 264 00:12:06,305 --> 00:12:08,505 Speaker 1: come and go in jewelry in terms of like, for example, 265 00:12:08,545 --> 00:12:12,385 Speaker 1: big chunky link chains and fobs are right, they come. 266 00:12:12,185 --> 00:12:14,385 Speaker 2: In and out. Yeah, I do think they coming in, 267 00:12:14,505 --> 00:12:17,985 Speaker 2: But you know, like I just think I never thought 268 00:12:18,065 --> 00:12:20,945 Speaker 2: I would wear a big chunky chain bracelet. Just never 269 00:12:21,065 --> 00:12:22,105 Speaker 2: thought that I would. 270 00:12:22,505 --> 00:12:24,265 Speaker 1: And I just want to ask about your stack because 271 00:12:24,265 --> 00:12:28,225 Speaker 1: that's phenomenal because you have got really chunky, really fine, 272 00:12:29,065 --> 00:12:31,625 Speaker 1: some colored jewels from what I can see, So you've 273 00:12:31,665 --> 00:12:33,585 Speaker 1: got a bit of everything there, and that kind of 274 00:12:33,785 --> 00:12:36,745 Speaker 1: is what makes that your personal style, because it's not 275 00:12:37,985 --> 00:12:39,945 Speaker 1: all just one thing that's in the stores right now. 276 00:12:39,985 --> 00:12:43,825 Speaker 2: That's right, that's exactly right. Links have been in forever, 277 00:12:44,145 --> 00:12:46,145 Speaker 2: but it's only now, at this time in my life 278 00:12:46,145 --> 00:12:49,505 Speaker 2: that I decided I need that to finish off my stack. Right, 279 00:12:49,585 --> 00:12:51,985 Speaker 2: that was the final piece. Oh yeah, ever. 280 00:12:51,985 --> 00:12:55,225 Speaker 1: Say never, we'll have no arm left I know. But 281 00:12:55,425 --> 00:12:57,945 Speaker 1: when you know, those big chunky chains go quote unquote 282 00:12:57,945 --> 00:12:59,265 Speaker 1: out of fashion, you're not taking it off? 283 00:12:59,345 --> 00:13:02,905 Speaker 2: No? Yeah, I like that, Yeah, definitely not. No, they 284 00:13:02,945 --> 00:13:04,145 Speaker 2: all mean something to me too. 285 00:13:04,305 --> 00:13:07,665 Speaker 1: Now, so can be sentimental, right, and it doesn't have 286 00:13:07,785 --> 00:13:11,225 Speaker 1: to be you know, a five thousand ring that is sentimental. 287 00:13:11,265 --> 00:13:13,305 Speaker 1: It can be a more affordable piece than you still 288 00:13:13,345 --> 00:13:15,505 Speaker 1: love and look after and it kind of it's a 289 00:13:15,545 --> 00:13:18,425 Speaker 1: little memory. Yeah, talk to me about proportions, because you've 290 00:13:18,425 --> 00:13:20,425 Speaker 1: got a bit of everything sort of like chunky and 291 00:13:20,545 --> 00:13:22,945 Speaker 1: thin and da da da da. But if you know 292 00:13:23,065 --> 00:13:27,425 Speaker 1: someone that's not as advanced in layering as you, how 293 00:13:27,425 --> 00:13:28,705 Speaker 1: do we get our proportions right? 294 00:13:28,905 --> 00:13:32,385 Speaker 2: I think it's important to consider textures layering. 295 00:13:33,305 --> 00:13:34,665 Speaker 1: Do we want different textures? 296 00:13:34,785 --> 00:13:37,945 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely. You don't want to have the same 297 00:13:38,785 --> 00:13:42,705 Speaker 2: textured necklace. I mean you can, yes, in a different. 298 00:13:42,465 --> 00:13:44,465 Speaker 1: Layer, but to add an interesting vibe. 299 00:13:44,545 --> 00:13:46,945 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like this is like a beaded chain, and 300 00:13:46,985 --> 00:13:50,665 Speaker 2: sometimes I wear a beaded ball chain. Yes, slightly longer, 301 00:13:51,305 --> 00:13:52,745 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't wear it too. 302 00:13:52,545 --> 00:13:55,105 Speaker 1: Close, Yes, a bit too matchy matching, yeah. 303 00:13:54,945 --> 00:13:59,465 Speaker 2: Too much, Emaci, So definitely lengths. Play with different lengths, yes, 304 00:13:59,505 --> 00:14:00,625 Speaker 2: play with different textures. 305 00:14:00,625 --> 00:14:02,465 Speaker 1: I'm only I mean, I know what a long and 306 00:14:02,465 --> 00:14:04,865 Speaker 1: a short necklace is. My husband very kindly brought me 307 00:14:04,905 --> 00:14:08,105 Speaker 1: a necklace for my ten year winning anniversary, and they 308 00:14:08,145 --> 00:14:10,145 Speaker 1: were like, what length do you want? I don't know. 309 00:14:10,185 --> 00:14:10,425 Speaker 2: Short. 310 00:14:10,505 --> 00:14:12,505 Speaker 1: They're like, well, short's different to other people. So I 311 00:14:12,505 --> 00:14:14,265 Speaker 1: think it can be handy to even just get out 312 00:14:14,265 --> 00:14:15,465 Speaker 1: your favorite necklace and measure it. 313 00:14:15,545 --> 00:14:15,745 Speaker 2: Yeah. 314 00:14:15,745 --> 00:14:17,345 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, forty five centimeters. 315 00:14:17,345 --> 00:14:18,145 Speaker 2: I do that all the time. 316 00:14:18,305 --> 00:14:20,465 Speaker 1: Well, I've never done this before. And then I finally 317 00:14:20,465 --> 00:14:21,905 Speaker 1: tried someone and I was like, actually, I want it 318 00:14:21,905 --> 00:14:24,345 Speaker 1: to be quite sure. I want forty two, whereas I 319 00:14:24,345 --> 00:14:26,225 Speaker 1: would have shopped online and gone, I'll sixty, I don't 320 00:14:26,265 --> 00:14:28,105 Speaker 1: know whatever, and that sixty is quite long. 321 00:14:28,545 --> 00:14:31,225 Speaker 2: When putting together a stack, I put so much thought 322 00:14:31,265 --> 00:14:34,065 Speaker 2: into it, do you, yes? Okay, so much thought? So much? 323 00:14:34,065 --> 00:14:36,265 Speaker 1: Do you lay it out first or you just start 324 00:14:36,345 --> 00:14:36,945 Speaker 1: putting them on? 325 00:14:37,065 --> 00:14:39,705 Speaker 2: I start putting them on, and I also I think 326 00:14:39,745 --> 00:14:42,425 Speaker 2: about what does it need next? What's the next layer? 327 00:14:42,705 --> 00:14:46,625 Speaker 2: Does it need color? Like for example, this bracelet bracelets 328 00:14:46,585 --> 00:14:50,745 Speaker 2: if you got on but this ruby bracelet I wasn't 329 00:14:50,745 --> 00:14:52,865 Speaker 2: going to get originally in rubies. I was going to 330 00:14:52,945 --> 00:14:56,185 Speaker 2: get it more with diamonds, And I thought to myself, 331 00:14:56,225 --> 00:14:58,145 Speaker 2: I don't need any more diamonds. I don't need any 332 00:14:58,145 --> 00:15:01,505 Speaker 2: more sparkle. I actually need something that grounds it together. 333 00:15:01,985 --> 00:15:03,945 Speaker 1: That's a bit contrasting in color. 334 00:15:04,185 --> 00:15:07,905 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not always about diamonds. It's not always about sparkle. 335 00:15:07,985 --> 00:15:10,305 Speaker 2: So that's why I went with the rubies. 336 00:15:10,945 --> 00:15:13,025 Speaker 1: So you really thought about it. I need to start 337 00:15:13,065 --> 00:15:13,785 Speaker 1: thinking about. 338 00:15:13,545 --> 00:15:16,945 Speaker 2: That, you really do. You need to think about everything 339 00:15:16,985 --> 00:15:20,785 Speaker 2: we've discussed about layering, about textures, but you also need 340 00:15:20,825 --> 00:15:23,985 Speaker 2: to think about does it work with what you already have. 341 00:15:24,265 --> 00:15:24,425 Speaker 1: Yeah. 342 00:15:24,505 --> 00:15:27,865 Speaker 2: I say that about fashion, and I say that about jewelry. 343 00:15:28,465 --> 00:15:31,025 Speaker 2: I never go and start a brand new stack, Like 344 00:15:31,105 --> 00:15:33,145 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go buy a piece that none 345 00:15:33,185 --> 00:15:34,465 Speaker 2: of my other jewelry goes with. 346 00:15:34,785 --> 00:15:37,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, Otherwise, even if it's just having a moment, or 347 00:15:37,265 --> 00:15:39,265 Speaker 1: it's a cool brand or everyone's wearing it. 348 00:15:39,705 --> 00:15:42,065 Speaker 2: No, it's a waste of money because then I'm like, now, 349 00:15:42,105 --> 00:15:44,305 Speaker 2: what what am I going to do? Now it doesn't 350 00:15:44,305 --> 00:15:46,225 Speaker 2: work with any of my other jewelry? Pieces. Now I 351 00:15:46,225 --> 00:15:49,425 Speaker 2: need to start building and building again, so everything has 352 00:15:49,505 --> 00:15:51,905 Speaker 2: to always go back with my wardrobe or with what 353 00:15:52,025 --> 00:15:54,305 Speaker 2: I have. It's like a capsule wardrobe for jewelry. 354 00:15:54,385 --> 00:15:56,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are wearing an incredible amount of jewelry that 355 00:15:56,905 --> 00:15:58,425 Speaker 1: you often don't take off. But I want to ask 356 00:15:58,425 --> 00:16:01,065 Speaker 1: about storage, because how do you store your jewels? 357 00:16:01,065 --> 00:16:04,865 Speaker 2: Don't ask me to that is wrong person to ask. 358 00:16:05,025 --> 00:16:05,785 Speaker 1: I love hearing that. 359 00:16:05,985 --> 00:16:09,985 Speaker 2: No, I'm not proud of the way I stack. It's 360 00:16:10,025 --> 00:16:11,705 Speaker 2: literally laid out on my bathroom. 361 00:16:11,705 --> 00:16:12,945 Speaker 1: At least it laid flat. 362 00:16:13,145 --> 00:16:13,425 Speaker 2: Yeah. 363 00:16:13,465 --> 00:16:15,545 Speaker 1: I just cleaned out my wardrobe recently and it was 364 00:16:15,585 --> 00:16:18,185 Speaker 1: semi organized. But then the fine chains, I just was like, 365 00:16:18,305 --> 00:16:20,105 Speaker 1: I found a clump of fine. 366 00:16:19,705 --> 00:16:24,265 Speaker 2: We're all in this together. I get asked this question 367 00:16:24,625 --> 00:16:29,225 Speaker 2: all the time, so everybody is the same. Ye, nobody 368 00:16:29,345 --> 00:16:30,945 Speaker 2: has a secret. 369 00:16:31,065 --> 00:16:32,865 Speaker 1: My wardrobe's mostly draws. So I've got a drawer and 370 00:16:32,905 --> 00:16:35,225 Speaker 1: I've got all those felt things, and it starts out good, 371 00:16:35,225 --> 00:16:36,985 Speaker 1: but then I'm busy and then I changed my mind 372 00:16:37,145 --> 00:16:39,665 Speaker 1: and I don't know how, but my fine chains are 373 00:16:39,745 --> 00:16:42,265 Speaker 1: just this one of those things that happens in the 374 00:16:42,265 --> 00:16:45,265 Speaker 1: ocean when everyone changes. Yes, and I don't have the 375 00:16:45,265 --> 00:16:47,665 Speaker 1: patience or the eyesight. I've given it to my husband 376 00:16:47,705 --> 00:16:49,385 Speaker 1: and every night he sits there with the needle and 377 00:16:49,465 --> 00:16:50,345 Speaker 1: kind of tries. 378 00:16:50,105 --> 00:16:53,745 Speaker 2: To, honestly, like find chains for me. I don't go 379 00:16:53,865 --> 00:16:55,465 Speaker 2: there for that exact reason. 380 00:16:55,545 --> 00:16:57,985 Speaker 1: Like the top one you're wearing is delicate, but it's 381 00:16:57,985 --> 00:16:59,305 Speaker 1: not fine fine, fine. 382 00:16:59,345 --> 00:17:02,465 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just I can see it. Fine chains tangle. 383 00:17:02,865 --> 00:17:06,225 Speaker 1: So we talked about really fine chains and layering. If 384 00:17:06,265 --> 00:17:08,585 Speaker 1: it's super fine, like you say, just where one? But 385 00:17:08,665 --> 00:17:12,905 Speaker 1: otherwise do you find do you tangle or entangle? You don't? 386 00:17:13,025 --> 00:17:15,705 Speaker 2: Yeah? Know, nothing tangles? Wow? Okay, So it's about the 387 00:17:15,985 --> 00:17:18,705 Speaker 2: this is minimal today actually ye two five? 388 00:17:20,025 --> 00:17:21,945 Speaker 1: No, I love this. I'm inspired because I do have 389 00:17:21,985 --> 00:17:24,265 Speaker 1: so many beautiful pieces, but I just think I can't. 390 00:17:24,465 --> 00:17:26,385 Speaker 1: It's probably more about the weight and the length to 391 00:17:26,465 --> 00:17:28,625 Speaker 1: keep them from tangling. So if they're super fine or 392 00:17:28,665 --> 00:17:30,025 Speaker 1: too similar, they will. 393 00:17:30,145 --> 00:17:33,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about thickness and different lengths. Okay. 394 00:17:33,185 --> 00:17:35,745 Speaker 1: And on the hand, I mean that's obviously a bit different. 395 00:17:35,785 --> 00:17:37,985 Speaker 1: I wear an Apple watch, which is just not very chic, 396 00:17:38,025 --> 00:17:39,105 Speaker 1: but I can't live without it. 397 00:17:39,185 --> 00:17:42,225 Speaker 2: You should put all that. On the other hand, all that, yeah, oh. 398 00:17:42,145 --> 00:17:47,265 Speaker 1: No, yes, I never thought I was allowed. Why Oh 399 00:17:47,345 --> 00:17:48,505 Speaker 1: my gosh, I. 400 00:17:48,505 --> 00:17:50,705 Speaker 2: Have nothing on this hand. Sometimes I'll wear my wafte. 401 00:17:50,745 --> 00:17:52,785 Speaker 1: So you have nothing on your right hand, and that's 402 00:17:52,865 --> 00:17:53,505 Speaker 1: your watch hand. 403 00:17:53,665 --> 00:17:54,025 Speaker 2: Yeah. 404 00:17:54,065 --> 00:17:55,705 Speaker 1: And then so your stacks on your less. 405 00:17:55,545 --> 00:17:57,745 Speaker 2: All on there. It's all on there. 406 00:17:58,385 --> 00:18:00,865 Speaker 1: WHOA, you just got my mind? One more question? Yes, 407 00:18:00,945 --> 00:18:04,625 Speaker 1: before we do booty and budgets. I'm a brand new client. 408 00:18:04,945 --> 00:18:08,625 Speaker 1: I'm scared of accessories and jewelry, and I say, now 409 00:18:08,825 --> 00:18:13,105 Speaker 1: help me. I'm worried about looking overstyled. I remember that quote, 410 00:18:13,105 --> 00:18:14,785 Speaker 1: I can't remember who said it, but look in the 411 00:18:14,825 --> 00:18:16,825 Speaker 1: mirror and take one thing off. I feel like you're 412 00:18:16,825 --> 00:18:19,745 Speaker 1: the opposite of that. But what do we do? How 413 00:18:19,785 --> 00:18:21,625 Speaker 1: do I get started or not be so scared? 414 00:18:22,425 --> 00:18:23,945 Speaker 2: I think, first of you've got to have a budget 415 00:18:23,945 --> 00:18:28,345 Speaker 2: in mind. Then I need to understand your lifestyle. I 416 00:18:28,385 --> 00:18:31,185 Speaker 2: need to understand you. I need to get to know 417 00:18:31,265 --> 00:18:34,145 Speaker 2: you and what type of style you want. Do you 418 00:18:34,185 --> 00:18:36,705 Speaker 2: want to stack up? I've done this like, I've actually 419 00:18:36,745 --> 00:18:39,585 Speaker 2: stucked up many clients, and I love it and I 420 00:18:39,665 --> 00:18:41,065 Speaker 2: love seeing it come to life. 421 00:18:41,185 --> 00:18:42,545 Speaker 1: And do you do that in real life? Do you 422 00:18:42,545 --> 00:18:44,905 Speaker 1: go to the shops rather than buy online? Like, because 423 00:18:44,905 --> 00:18:46,625 Speaker 1: you've got to show them to kind of Convince. 424 00:18:46,665 --> 00:18:50,425 Speaker 2: They're both so I love obviously supporting brands in Australia, 425 00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:54,065 Speaker 2: but I also support brands overseas, and there's a lot. 426 00:18:54,065 --> 00:18:58,505 Speaker 2: There's actually more overseas. Yeah, they just have more. Yeah, 427 00:18:58,745 --> 00:19:00,145 Speaker 2: I mean it's with everything. Yeah. 428 00:19:00,225 --> 00:19:03,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, so at a population down here, Yes, a lot. 429 00:19:03,585 --> 00:19:05,505 Speaker 2: Of it's online, a lot of it is in store. 430 00:19:05,905 --> 00:19:08,025 Speaker 2: And I think when you start layering up as well, 431 00:19:08,065 --> 00:19:10,265 Speaker 2: it's a journey. I don't want to lay you up 432 00:19:10,705 --> 00:19:11,905 Speaker 2: like hit you hard. 433 00:19:12,065 --> 00:19:12,385 Speaker 1: Yeah. 434 00:19:12,465 --> 00:19:15,385 Speaker 2: I think it's like, let's do the next bracelet for 435 00:19:15,665 --> 00:19:18,745 Speaker 2: a milestone, or let's do it for something special. 436 00:19:29,865 --> 00:19:31,305 Speaker 1: It's very expensive. 437 00:19:32,105 --> 00:19:32,585 Speaker 2: How old you are? 438 00:19:32,625 --> 00:19:37,785 Speaker 1: These my favorite part. So obviously we're talking about jewelry, 439 00:19:38,225 --> 00:19:41,985 Speaker 1: so bougie can be really fancy, and then budget's obviously 440 00:19:42,105 --> 00:19:43,905 Speaker 1: more affordable than that. It can be an item or 441 00:19:43,945 --> 00:19:46,865 Speaker 1: a brand. Yeah, let's start with our budget. 442 00:19:47,145 --> 00:19:49,425 Speaker 2: Budget. Carlie Peker, she's not. 443 00:19:49,465 --> 00:19:51,745 Speaker 1: The one you said that. I'm googling this right now. 444 00:19:51,745 --> 00:19:55,905 Speaker 2: So, Carlie, I'm so drawn to what she has. She's 445 00:19:55,945 --> 00:19:57,985 Speaker 2: got amazing beaded pieces. 446 00:19:58,505 --> 00:20:00,345 Speaker 1: So hang on, did you say this is your bougie 447 00:20:00,425 --> 00:20:03,265 Speaker 1: or this is budget? Okay, yeah, this is budget. You're 448 00:20:03,305 --> 00:20:05,505 Speaker 1: going to spend me so much money. I'm going to 449 00:20:05,545 --> 00:20:07,425 Speaker 1: check out her website. All right, talk to me, bougie. 450 00:20:07,505 --> 00:20:09,585 Speaker 2: I've got two on my wish lists currently. 451 00:20:10,665 --> 00:20:13,145 Speaker 1: Tell us maybe they'll come true. 452 00:20:13,345 --> 00:20:17,625 Speaker 2: So Milestone's by Ashley milestones By. She's got a beautiful 453 00:20:18,345 --> 00:20:20,865 Speaker 2: rainbow ring. And this is what I mean, like, I 454 00:20:20,905 --> 00:20:23,905 Speaker 2: love color. I love something that's cute and fun and 455 00:20:23,945 --> 00:20:25,545 Speaker 2: a bit unique and a bit unique. 456 00:20:25,665 --> 00:20:29,385 Speaker 1: Is she Australian? No, she's in La Okay, so La 457 00:20:29,465 --> 00:20:30,905 Speaker 1: has a lot of great jewelry brands. 458 00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:36,025 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. She basically just has the most insane curation 459 00:20:36,105 --> 00:20:37,225 Speaker 2: of jewels from all over. 460 00:20:38,105 --> 00:20:40,345 Speaker 1: There's one that a lady of follow in America, Monic 461 00:20:40,425 --> 00:20:43,265 Speaker 1: or something. She's in New York. Don't follow her if 462 00:20:43,305 --> 00:20:47,145 Speaker 1: you don't. She makes the most incredible, really unique diamond 463 00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:49,505 Speaker 1: pendance and rings. Yeah, and I looked at them and 464 00:20:49,505 --> 00:20:51,745 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, four hundred thousand. 465 00:20:51,465 --> 00:20:53,185 Speaker 2: Dollars, Yeah, four hundred thousand dollars. 466 00:20:53,185 --> 00:20:55,345 Speaker 1: Well, I mean these diamonds must be like humongous. And 467 00:20:55,385 --> 00:20:58,745 Speaker 1: I was like, ohe Levisa rips that off soon. That's 468 00:20:58,825 --> 00:21:01,625 Speaker 1: so good. I love what'sie. 469 00:21:01,945 --> 00:21:05,025 Speaker 2: My other bougie would be an insane ring that I've 470 00:21:05,025 --> 00:21:07,545 Speaker 2: got my eye on from Lucy Delius. She's in the 471 00:21:07,705 --> 00:21:11,585 Speaker 2: UK doing to me. You're gonna love her. So she's 472 00:21:11,625 --> 00:21:14,265 Speaker 2: got a very sort of antique. She's on Netaporter and 473 00:21:14,305 --> 00:21:18,385 Speaker 2: she's got a very antique way of doing her jewels. Yes, 474 00:21:18,425 --> 00:21:19,665 Speaker 2: and I kind of love that. 475 00:21:19,865 --> 00:21:22,425 Speaker 1: But you know what, that's another really good point. Antique 476 00:21:22,465 --> 00:21:26,265 Speaker 1: in secondhand you can get some of my losing love 477 00:21:26,305 --> 00:21:29,385 Speaker 1: love amazing pieces. I haven't been sleeping lately and I 478 00:21:29,425 --> 00:21:33,145 Speaker 1: stumbled across an auction and I bought the most amazing 479 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,785 Speaker 1: ring for a one twentieth of what it was worth 480 00:21:36,385 --> 00:21:38,225 Speaker 1: and I bit on it in the middle of the night. 481 00:21:38,265 --> 00:21:39,705 Speaker 1: I woke up the next morning I'd won it, and 482 00:21:39,745 --> 00:21:41,505 Speaker 1: I was like, what have I done? But it's incredible 483 00:21:41,505 --> 00:21:43,465 Speaker 1: and it's original, and it's circular fashion. 484 00:21:43,505 --> 00:21:46,825 Speaker 2: The crazy thing is is I actually go into antique 485 00:21:46,865 --> 00:21:51,785 Speaker 2: jewelry stores and I see pieces that brands now have copied. Yes, 486 00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:55,465 Speaker 2: it's crazy. It literally does do a full circle, isn't it. 487 00:21:55,465 --> 00:21:56,025 Speaker 2: It's insane. 488 00:21:56,065 --> 00:21:58,465 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you are spending big money, obviously hold 489 00:21:58,465 --> 00:22:00,785 Speaker 1: on to it. It's an airloom. Yeah, all right, I'm 490 00:22:00,785 --> 00:22:02,945 Speaker 1: going to quickly do my bougie and budget. Yeah, go on, 491 00:22:03,105 --> 00:22:07,105 Speaker 1: so my budget's very budget and it's lovesa. So last 492 00:22:07,145 --> 00:22:09,785 Speaker 1: year I went overseas and I didn't want to travel with, 493 00:22:09,905 --> 00:22:11,705 Speaker 1: you know, my nice jewelry, and I wanted something that 494 00:22:11,745 --> 00:22:13,705 Speaker 1: I could swim a lot with. And I didn't know 495 00:22:13,745 --> 00:22:17,425 Speaker 1: that Lavisa did a waterproof collection. And look, if it's 496 00:22:17,425 --> 00:22:20,905 Speaker 1: fine jewelry and proper gold, it's waterproof. But also, you know, 497 00:22:20,945 --> 00:22:24,105 Speaker 1: more affordable stuff sometimes cantarnish, you know, I get that 498 00:22:24,185 --> 00:22:27,745 Speaker 1: weird green skin sometimes from the nickel. Anyway, Lavisa has 499 00:22:27,745 --> 00:22:30,865 Speaker 1: a whole waterproof range, and I love the waterproof gold 500 00:22:30,865 --> 00:22:34,985 Speaker 1: plated stainless steel Paloma chain short necklace. It's fifty five dollars. 501 00:22:35,225 --> 00:22:38,145 Speaker 1: It's like a curveling chain, like imagine that stacked. And 502 00:22:38,185 --> 00:22:40,505 Speaker 1: I honestly came back. It wasn't that one might now 503 00:22:40,545 --> 00:22:42,985 Speaker 1: want that. I came back and I didn't put on 504 00:22:43,025 --> 00:22:45,305 Speaker 1: all my other jewelry, and I wore them for months 505 00:22:45,505 --> 00:22:48,305 Speaker 1: and everyone was like, oh, where's that from? Yes, and 506 00:22:48,385 --> 00:22:50,585 Speaker 1: you know what if you're jump in the ocean and 507 00:22:50,625 --> 00:22:52,265 Speaker 1: do a Kim Kudashi in a new earring or something 508 00:22:52,265 --> 00:22:54,905 Speaker 1: for loft, worry, no, you know, that's a bit sad. 509 00:22:55,345 --> 00:23:00,785 Speaker 1: My bougie. I follow an account on Instagram called Constantina Vintage. 510 00:23:00,905 --> 00:23:04,225 Speaker 1: Do you follow her? She has the most Yes, I've 511 00:23:04,265 --> 00:23:07,145 Speaker 1: bought one necklace once. I just she's my bougie. It's 512 00:23:07,265 --> 00:23:11,385 Speaker 1: all seventies, eighties, nineties jewelry, some costume jewelry. I bought 513 00:23:11,385 --> 00:23:14,745 Speaker 1: a beautiful vintage costume chavant she necklace and she had 514 00:23:14,745 --> 00:23:17,065 Speaker 1: a big sale, so it was a couple of hundred bucks. 515 00:23:17,225 --> 00:23:19,145 Speaker 1: But there's stuff that she has. I honestly need to 516 00:23:19,185 --> 00:23:21,865 Speaker 1: unfollow her. But she's an Australian business and it's circular 517 00:23:21,865 --> 00:23:23,505 Speaker 1: economy because that applies to fashion. 518 00:23:23,585 --> 00:23:25,265 Speaker 2: Hasn't she been around for a long time? 519 00:23:25,385 --> 00:23:27,785 Speaker 1: Yes, I only discovered her a few years ago, and 520 00:23:27,785 --> 00:23:29,985 Speaker 1: now I wish I didn't. I think the joy of 521 00:23:30,305 --> 00:23:33,825 Speaker 1: realizing that jewelry, you know, can go around and because 522 00:23:33,825 --> 00:23:36,265 Speaker 1: of what it's made of, it's the best thing for 523 00:23:36,345 --> 00:23:39,625 Speaker 1: circular economy. I agree, Nat, I want to come over 524 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:41,985 Speaker 1: and play with all your jewels. I'd love I feel like, 525 00:23:42,065 --> 00:23:43,465 Speaker 1: you know, imagine little girls. 526 00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:46,905 Speaker 2: Just yeah, I do that with my girlfriends. 527 00:23:46,945 --> 00:23:47,785 Speaker 1: Do you I do? 528 00:23:47,905 --> 00:23:48,305 Speaker 2: Thank God? 529 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:52,105 Speaker 1: How you should do stacking parties? Like how to for hens? 530 00:23:52,425 --> 00:23:52,625 Speaker 2: Noat. 531 00:23:52,625 --> 00:23:54,345 Speaker 1: I loved chatting to you. I could chat to you 532 00:23:54,425 --> 00:23:55,785 Speaker 1: all day. I feel like you've spent a lot of 533 00:23:55,825 --> 00:23:58,105 Speaker 1: my money. Thank you for coming, thank you my pleasure, 534 00:23:58,465 --> 00:24:00,585 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Wear, 535 00:24:00,665 --> 00:24:03,465 Speaker 1: And don't forget. 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