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Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm on the Mere podcast.

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Speaker 2: While Australia's fuel supply outlook remain secure in the near term,

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Speaker 2: we need to be very clear as well with Australian

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Speaker 2: so the longer this war goes on, the worse the

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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister has reassured Australians our fuel supply is

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Speaker 3: okay for now, unveiling a National fuel Security plan harving

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Speaker 3: the fuel excise and reducing the heavy vehicle road user charge.

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Speaker 3: But what about the future of our fuel as Israel

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Speaker 3: and the United States war with Iran drags on. We'll

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Speaker 3: take you through the changes and what it means for you.

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Speaker 3: It's the Quikie for Tuesday, March thirty one. I'm Taylor Strano.

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Speaker 3: Here's Claire Murphy with the latest news headlines.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Locals in the regional Victorian town of Wholwa

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Speaker 1: say they're looking at each other and wondering which one

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Speaker 1: of them may have turned in fugitive Desi Freemen. Freeman

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Speaker 1: in late August. There hadn't been a signing a Freeman

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Speaker 1: Officers negotiated with the man believed to be Freeman for

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Speaker 1: enablers also lived amongst them. With Freeman discovered on the

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Speaker 1: in Tasmania, US President Donald Trump has warned that Iran's

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Speaker 1: Iran said on Monday that it had received US peace

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Speaker 1: illogical and excessive, saying our position is clear. We are

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Speaker 1: reviewing a possible exit from the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty,

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Speaker 1: tuberculosis andmphysema and more. In a brief appearance, the creators

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Speaker 1: in Australia on April thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Claire.

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Speaker 3: Next, the new fuel relief plan explained it's now been

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Speaker 3: The result of rising costs, many measures have been discussed

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Speaker 3: The National Cabinet wrapped up and a couple of major

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Speaker 4: Do you want to walk us through them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, after getting criticism that the government hadn't been

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Speaker 5: we're past that now we've done that. The second part

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Speaker 4: Can you explain to us what that means.

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Speaker 5: We will be guarantors for this. It's basically the government

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Speaker 3: We've talked about what the federal government, the National Cabinet

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Speaker 3: but what about the other measures that are in place.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think that some were so gun ho

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Speaker 3: I mean, in Victoria's case, they have a state election

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Speaker 5: I think if pretty much nailed it, it all comes

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Speaker 5: It would have come at a political cost to cut it.

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Speaker 3: And what about work from home measures? I mean during COVID,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, at the moment, it seems to be an employer

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Speaker 5: So what the government is essentially focusing on is saying, look,

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Speaker 3: How does all of this plane to our relationship with

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