Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm im a mea podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Unleashed, the podcast for gen X
Speaker 2: women who need a laugh. If you remember how your
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Speaker 1: Hella people.
Speaker 4: It's Grace Ben Ben Lam and I'm a fashion stylist.
Speaker 3: Hello, I'm Sally Hitworth and I'm an author.
Speaker 4: Hi.
Speaker 5: I'm Kat Mahoney. I'm a comedian and I'm Ginny Meersberg.
Speaker 5: I am a gpay you.
Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2: Okay, wherever you're listening and clench your jaw, clench your
Speaker 2: pelvic floor.
Speaker 1: And get ready to unleash.
Speaker 4: Go.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I would like to kick off with something
Speaker 2: that I have been faking for many, many years. So
Speaker 2: if you're a football and or soccer fan, depending on
Speaker 2: what you call it, you know that we've just had
Speaker 2: the massive World Cup, big sporting spectacle that it was.
Speaker 2: What I would like to admit to is I've actually
Speaker 2: never ever, ever ever.
Speaker 1: Been into sport.
Speaker 2: Wait, and I have only ever faked any interest in
Speaker 2: sport due to a tour boy.
Speaker 3: Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong. You were married to
Speaker 3: a sports player of some description, a soccer player, rugby player,
Speaker 3: rugby league. Did you fake it with him?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did fake it with him on my car.
Speaker 2: All those fake it with him, I've had to fake
Speaker 2: understanding the game. This started for me with Anthony Jones
Speaker 2: when I was ten. He played basketball, so I just
Speaker 2: became obsessed with basketball, so much so that I made
Speaker 2: it onto the under elevens South Wales basketball team only
Speaker 2: because I was tall.
Speaker 1: I had nothing else.
Speaker 2: And then I went to university and my boyfriend was
Speaker 2: heavily into Manchester United, so I became a Manchester United fan.
Speaker 2: As you do, as you do, and as Sally said,
Speaker 2: I then met my lovely husband, who was a sports star,
Speaker 2: played rugby leg Andrew Johns. I then faked knowing the
Speaker 2: rules and being interested for eight or nine years. During
Speaker 2: that time, I got a job at Channel nine as
Speaker 2: a publicist, predominantly to look after their sports programs, so
Speaker 2: I had to pretend to understand cricket. We did a
Speaker 2: bit of tennis, swimming, rugby league. I just never knew
Speaker 2: the rules or enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Did you have to come clean? In an actual moment
Speaker 3: with your husband to tell him that you actually didn't
Speaker 3: like rugby league or was it something that just became
Speaker 3: obvious overtime.
Speaker 2: Now I've just never admitted it, and I feel like
Speaker 2: it's calmer now that my son has played rugby league
Speaker 2: since he was five and is continuing potentially in dad's
Speaker 2: footsteps as a rugby league player. So I am the
Speaker 2: person that has to spend my entire weekend watching sport
Speaker 2: because it's rugby union on a Saturday, rugby league on
Speaker 2: a Sunday.
Speaker 4: I would have thought faith two perfect people to learn from.
Speaker 5: Oh what, But if you ask a man to explain
Speaker 5: a sport, absolutely strap yourself in. This is just going
Speaker 5: to be the most horrific hour of your life. So
Speaker 5: I think it's much better to pretend that you know
Speaker 5: what you're talking about and just not along zone out,
Speaker 5: because otherwise you're going to get the full thrighted description,
Speaker 5: horror story, great strongling.
Speaker 1: Look, I've just got to.
Speaker 2: Say, I feel like I've spent forty years trying to
Speaker 2: give a shit about stuff we really don't care about.
Speaker 2: You can screw your tries, your points, your conversions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what crickets side rule exactly.
Speaker 1: So that is me. I feel like I have fessed up.
Speaker 2: Let it go goirlfriend, I've let it go, and I
Speaker 2: would like to say to Channel nine, I'm sorry that
Speaker 2: during that interview for forty five minutes, I.
Speaker 1: Lied my love and passion the sport. I don't understand
Speaker 1: and I don't care anymore.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I have faked on multiple occasions.
Speaker 3: I think maybe we have got a theme. You know,
Speaker 3: you went for the sport. One thing that I have
Speaker 3: had is the theme with my ex's is live music,
Speaker 3: and I don't like. I don't like more particularly any music.
Speaker 3: I like to listen to smooth their fem and listen
Speaker 3: to the same music that I've listened to since the
Speaker 3: nineties in the car on the way to school with
Speaker 3: my dad.
Speaker 4: We're going to go karaoke together. Now, yeah, it's not going.
Speaker 3: To go I love Whitney Houston, you know. But look,
Speaker 3: I once pretended that I wanted guitar lessons in order
Speaker 3: to get together with this guy who did become my boyfriend,
Speaker 3: and then I immediately dropped the guitar lessons. And I
Speaker 3: also had a very lovely boyfriend when I lived in
Speaker 3: London and the two things I hate probably the most
Speaker 3: a camping and live music, and I went to Glastonbury.
Speaker 3: That's how committed I was to live music. And I
Speaker 3: don't even know if I fully understood that I didn't
Speaker 3: like it until one day sort of in my late
Speaker 3: thirties where I was at a concert and I was
Speaker 3: very loud and I wanted to go home and I
Speaker 3: was sick of standing up there, and I it just
Speaker 3: distilled to me all this time, I don't like this,
Speaker 3: and it feels good to say it.
Speaker 4: What about you, Grace, What have your fate really fakes?
Speaker 4: Of course you know the smile very directly. But when
Speaker 4: I was a teenager started dating, I was in hanging
Speaker 4: out with this guy that I fancy and we will
Speaker 4: fans each other. And you know, English is my second language.
Speaker 4: I speak three language people, by the way, Yes, So
Speaker 4: he was saying something like, you know, play it by ear,
Speaker 4: and I've never heard that phrase before. So I started
Speaker 4: playing with this ear.
Speaker 1: And he was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: I said, you just told me to play with your ear,
Speaker 4: and I was like, no, pay it by ear, I'm
Speaker 4: not what does that mean? He goes and he explained I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, what you say, though I have heard that.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all. Okay.
Speaker 5: So when Daniel, my husband, and I were first getting
Speaker 5: to know each other, we were sending each other text
Speaker 5: you know, like we're just like exchanging. It was like
Speaker 5: a volley match. So I asked him what his favorite
Speaker 5: Sunday would be and guess.
Speaker 1: What it was.
Speaker 5: He said, a barbecue and then watch the cricket. I
Speaker 5: thought I was going to die.
Speaker 1: That was my worst thing.
Speaker 6: And then I said what would be your best holiday?
Speaker 5: And I understand that some people would like this, but
Speaker 5: he said, I'd like to go for a week to.
Speaker 6: The mal Dives.
Speaker 5: And I am just I can't sit still and that
Speaker 5: is just like kill me now.
Speaker 6: I just would hate that. I need to be on
Speaker 6: the go the whole time.
Speaker 3: I'll go with him to the mal Dives.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I'll give you his number. He's definitely came
Speaker 5: to go with somebody again.
Speaker 2: I feel like every road leads to the opposite sex.
Speaker 1: Are all the things that we faked?
Speaker 2: Well, he's to that ending, ladies, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: No, thank you.
Speaker 4: Speaking of ship that we're done with, Kathma, honey, I
Speaker 4: want to give a message to the advertising industry. Do
Speaker 4: you know what I saw on Instagram the other day
Speaker 4: that a midlife woman was saying how she is a
Speaker 4: consultant to a beauty company that wants to sell products
Speaker 4: to a midlife women gene next woman, And then she
Speaker 4: said she was in a meeting with these people and
Speaker 4: this late. These group of people were saying, we need
Speaker 4: to hire twenty to thirty year old to sell this product.
Speaker 4: I'm like, squeeze me to sell products to our age.
Speaker 4: I don't want to look at a young, young chick
Speaker 4: selling product for me. I mean, what the fuck? Honestly,
Speaker 4: what's wrong with us advertising for our own people?
Speaker 3: What women our age does want to look at a
Speaker 3: twenty to thirty year old woman advertising our products?
Speaker 4: But also, our skin is so different. So what are
Speaker 4: you saying about people like us right?
Speaker 6: Our age?
Speaker 4: Oh, we don't matter, We shouldn't look good at our age.
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, doctor GINI yeah, that doesn't make
Speaker 5: sense to me at all. I do think that a
Speaker 5: lot of us think that we're ten years younger than
Speaker 5: we actually are. So if you're on your fifties, you
Speaker 5: sort of think of yourself as being in the forties,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, You're like, but I'm
Speaker 5: not the age that my mother was when blah blah
Speaker 5: blah had a memory and she was really old. So
Speaker 5: we kind of subtract ten, subtract ten. So if you're
Speaker 5: in your seventies, you kind of want to look at
Speaker 5: a sixty year old. If you're in your sixties, you
Speaker 5: want to look at a fifty year old. I sure,
Speaker 5: sit don't want to look at a twenty year old.
Speaker 4: Like that is.
Speaker 5: I'm phasing out at this point, So I think that
Speaker 5: consultant like, nah, she's not going to have any work.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I think it depends on your algorithm, because I only
Speaker 3: realize when I'm with other friends and I look at
Speaker 3: what their phones are doing and what their social media
Speaker 3: is showing them. Mine is full of old ladies. I
Speaker 3: mean it is. I'm following the people who are graying
Speaker 3: out their hair. You know, they're very satisfying to watch online.
Speaker 3: I'm following Julia Louis Dreyfus's podcast Wiser than Me, which
Speaker 3: is where she interviews older women. I think they call
Speaker 3: themselves old women and people aging gracefully, which, by the way,
Speaker 3: I am not. But there's nothing that brings me more
Speaker 3: joy than an unadulterated older woman in her bathers with
Speaker 3: wet hair, laughing with her friends. That kind of imagery
Speaker 3: is what sells me stuff. You know, my whole life
Speaker 3: is about older women. I write books about older women.
Speaker 3: You know, my friends are largely like you, guys older
Speaker 3: than me.
Speaker 6: Thanks for reminding me, and thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm ten years younger than I thought I was, thanks
Speaker 2: to doctor Jinny's yeah you're welfare.
Speaker 1: Thanks that.
Speaker 3: I don't know why we want to be I agree.
Speaker 3: I don't think that any women I know want to
Speaker 3: be looking at younger women's faces advertising stuff for us.
Speaker 5: Sally Hepworth, best selling author, and I'm just going to
Speaker 5: say mad Mabel all over the Empire State Building in
Speaker 5: New York, if you please.
Speaker 1: Who is she?
Speaker 6: Do you have someone in mine when you wrote her?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: Actually, there was a real life old lady who I
Speaker 3: met at a book event annually. I was looking for
Speaker 3: a new book idea, and she waited to have her
Speaker 3: book signed right until the end. And she came up
Speaker 3: to me and she said, I'm thinking of murdering my
Speaker 3: next door neighbor shuts up no, And I said, fantastic.
Speaker 3: How are you going to do it, you know, because
Speaker 3: I was looking for inspo. And she said, I don't
Speaker 3: know how I'm going to do it, but I know
Speaker 3: that I'm going to get away with it. And I said,
Speaker 3: how the dickens do you know that? And she said,
Speaker 3: because there are two groups of people who were never
Speaker 3: suspected of murder, and those are old ladies and little girls.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And that was the beginning of the book. But when
Speaker 3: I was touring Mad Mabel this year, I returned to
Speaker 3: the same event where I had met Rosalie. It was
Speaker 3: the woman's name, and I was about to tell the story,
Speaker 3: because that was the story I was telling that this
Speaker 3: was the inspiration, and I remembered that this was the
Speaker 3: place where i'd met her, and I suddenly panicked and thought,
Speaker 3: what if she did murder her neighbor? And I just
Speaker 3: stand up and I give the whole story away. And
Speaker 3: so I spoke to the organizer and I said, is
Speaker 3: there a Rosalie here? And she's sent out a couple
Speaker 3: of Lackey's. And the best thing about it was that
Speaker 3: only the only thing anyone cared about was making sure
Speaker 3: that Rosalie got away with the murder. No one was
Speaker 3: concerned about the neighbor. But we found that there was
Speaker 3: one Rosalie there, she was too young. And then they
Speaker 3: reported that there was an elderly Rosalie, but that she
Speaker 3: had passed away. So we believe that the real mad
Speaker 3: Mabel has now gone to God. We are not sure
Speaker 3: about the neighbor. Okay. I have got a question for
Speaker 3: the group, and that is when does your ex stop
Speaker 3: becoming your responsibility? So I have a scenario here. I've
Speaker 3: been divorced for three years and everything is finalized, the financial,
Speaker 3: the divorce. We're officially divorced. We are now have co
Speaker 3: parenting our three children. Last week, however, he was overseas
Speaker 3: back in the UK with his family. I was at
Speaker 3: home with my three kids and I was driving my
Speaker 3: youngest daughter, Clementine to school, and she had my phone.
Speaker 3: She was probably buying squishes or you know, putting filters
Speaker 3: on her face or putting on Kat's eye or something.
Speaker 3: And as we're driving along, I saw on the screen
Speaker 3: of my car this message flipped up from her dad
Speaker 3: and it was in I just quickly saw that it
Speaker 3: was in the year eleven parents group for our son,
Speaker 3: and I thought that's a bit weird. Didn't know he
Speaker 3: was in that group. Certainly, I've never seen him comment
Speaker 3: in that group. But okay, minute later, Clementine is holding
Speaker 3: my phone says mom.
Speaker 6: Mom, pull over.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I thought, okay, let's distress test this because sometimes it's
Speaker 3: just you know, the jumbo butter squishy has come into
Speaker 3: stock or something. So I said, what is it?
Speaker 6: And she said, Dad's sending weird messages?
Speaker 3: And I was like pulled over, and I took the
Speaker 3: phone and there was into the Whole Year eleven parents chat.
Speaker 3: It was like an emoji GIF situation of a little
Speaker 3: cat and it had its little poor going and it
Speaker 3: said I love you. I mean, it didn't say it,
Speaker 3: but that sounded like and I thought it or into
Speaker 3: the group chat of parents of parents and he's in
Speaker 3: the UK, and I'm thinking it's about midnight, and all
Speaker 3: of this is that I'm looking at the phone thinking
Speaker 3: what's my responsibility here? And so then all before my
Speaker 3: very eyes, it starts pinging, ping, ping, ping. Message after
Speaker 3: message after message is coming to the whole Year eleven
Speaker 3: group chat of kittens saying weird things. Clementine's screaming like
Speaker 3: she's freaking out. And then before I could do anything.
Speaker 3: Other parents in the chat who were friends of mine
Speaker 3: were pinging me saying.
Speaker 1: Do something, make it stop?
Speaker 6: Would be drunk.
Speaker 1: It's a UK, right, yes, sometime midnight in the UK.
Speaker 1: He's awake, fair chance, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I called him. Clementine said call him and I said, you.
Speaker 1: Call him dad, you're the child.
Speaker 3: If she called him didn't answer, the think ping ping ping,
Speaker 3: Then I said, we can't do anything. We've got to
Speaker 3: go started driving, ping, ping pink. She said we've got
Speaker 3: to try again, mum, and so we rang again. This
Speaker 3: time he answered half cut at the pop no idea
Speaker 3: any of this was happening, and was horrified, of course,
Speaker 3: and he immediately deleted the messages and sent an apology
Speaker 3: and whatnot. But it really got me thinking, was that
Speaker 3: my obligation to intervene?
Speaker 1: Then? Is it?
Speaker 3: We'll always be connected with children, and so perhaps there
Speaker 3: is the saving my children from the social suicide of
Speaker 3: having a dad sending cat emojis to the whole school.
Speaker 3: Kath Mahoney, Ginny Mansburg, you've both had experience with ex
Speaker 3: husbands we have. Would you have stepped in to save
Speaker 3: them from emoji gate?
Speaker 6: Helena? Yeah, no, I wouldn't. I mean, I do that.
Speaker 5: I read this really good book called Mum's House, Dad's House,
Speaker 5: and it's a very American book.
Speaker 1: Have you read it?
Speaker 5: Yes, it's so good and so basically what the author
Speaker 5: of this book said was that you now need to
Speaker 5: think about your ex partner as a business partner.
Speaker 1: So forever, for the rest of your lives.
Speaker 5: You guys are going to be in this business relationship together,
Speaker 5: whether you're in the business of raising your kids. But
Speaker 5: in the same way as somebody at work, you would
Speaker 5: never comment on the size of their bum or the
Speaker 5: fact that they're saying really stupid things in a group chat,
Speaker 5: or that they're making a fool of themselves at a party.
Speaker 5: It's just not appropriate for a person that you know
Speaker 5: at work. You need to apply business rules. And what
Speaker 5: a relief like.
Speaker 1: That shit in my life anymore?
Speaker 6: How good?
Speaker 5: Like you know what, everyone's just going to go And
Speaker 5: I wonder she'd divorced him, so like, that's just so good.
Speaker 6: I actually think you were afraid up there wanted children?
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it different when the children are of a
Speaker 3: minor age.
Speaker 2: I think it has something to do with also where
Speaker 2: you're at in the separation, because early days when my
Speaker 2: husband and I had separated, and he, you know, he
Speaker 2: is a famous rugby league player commentator now would often
Speaker 2: be in the press with good and bad things, and
Speaker 2: the way that some journals do. It would always be
Speaker 2: like I'd get added to the story and his ex wife,
Speaker 2: even if it was nothing to do with me and
Speaker 2: his other first ex wife. Like you'd always get added,
Speaker 2: and people would have a comment to you about whether
Speaker 2: it was a good scenario who was involved in or
Speaker 2: bad that you had to bite your tongue. But I
Speaker 2: think you know now years later, it's very different.
Speaker 3: We went harder, isn't it if you're actually being pulled
Speaker 3: in by someone else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now you know, many eleven years later, we
Speaker 2: recently had Lewis's formal and we had the pres together.
Speaker 2: And Andrew has met a million gazillion people, and he's
Speaker 2: not very good at remembering people's names or if he's
Speaker 2: met them before.
Speaker 1: And I went.
Speaker 2: We both went together, and I immediately went into former
Speaker 2: publicist mode. It's like you sort of like you joined
Speaker 2: the president that Susan to the right. Susan's got a
Speaker 2: son called Blah Blah blah, and these two girls were
Speaker 2: like oh, a bit sort of excited to meet him,
Speaker 2: but you know, anyway, and I was like, well, just
Speaker 2: move it along.
Speaker 4: That's just I was like, so.
Speaker 3: I'm reading that kath would help Andrew out if he
Speaker 3: was sending cat emojis to the school group. Now GINI
Speaker 3: perhaps not.
Speaker 5: No, I think you know cat emogs you go for
Speaker 5: your life, go for your life, and elephant in there.
Speaker 4: It's definitely come of, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1: Are you drunk?
Speaker 4: Honestly, you're making me lose face.
Speaker 1: I'm Chinese.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you do that if you liked him, or
Speaker 2: if you didn't like him exactly, still got one straight.
Speaker 4: But you know what talk about. I don't have an
Speaker 4: ex husband, but I do have many ex boyfriends, and
Speaker 4: I'll I'm on a trip recently to a city that
Speaker 4: we were both in the same city and my ex
Speaker 4: I dated him very briefly.
Speaker 3: In my way, you and an ex boyfriend were both
Speaker 3: in the same same city, which we didn't know. So
Speaker 3: I was with my husband and my son and we're
Speaker 3: having a great time. And then I got a message saying, hey,
Speaker 3: you're in my hood, and.
Speaker 4: I was like, what I thought you lived in Brooklyn,
Speaker 4: New York. So anyway, he said, didn't you see my
Speaker 4: LinkedIn post I moved to this country. I said, no,
Speaker 4: I didn't. And I said, do you want to meet up?
Speaker 4: You know, I haven't seen him for fifteen years?
Speaker 3: You said, do you want to meet up? And you
Speaker 3: haven't sit him for fifteen years and you're there with
Speaker 3: your husband and son.
Speaker 1: Yes, did you ask Jason food?
Speaker 4: Of course, I said, oh, by the way, this guy's here,
Speaker 4: Sure we have a coffee with him. I told him everything.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm very honest with Jason. And of course
Speaker 4: I told my son, I so, by the way, Mama
Speaker 4: might meet one of my exes and they're both there. Yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 4: let's go. But this guy, because he's English, is very polite,
Speaker 4: very polite, very lovely gentleman. So we met up. He
Speaker 4: bought us dinner. It was a lovely conversation, you do
Speaker 4: you and Jason, and yes.
Speaker 1: It is that lovely.
Speaker 6: Sounds like a nice guy, really nice.
Speaker 4: And he's married and he's doing really well. I mean
Speaker 4: sometimes with certain people you can be friends. And then
Speaker 4: after the dinner, Jason said, there's no way he could
Speaker 4: have handled you.
Speaker 1: I know, And then my son went.
Speaker 4: Mama, he's so not your type. I'm like, I know,
Speaker 4: that's why I marry your dad. Yeah, so sometimes it
Speaker 4: could happen that you can be friends with your ex.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think that Jason and Theo's little ego was coming out
Speaker 3: there going that he's not good enough for you, mum,
Speaker 3: only we can handle you exactly. Real men, real men
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 1: Okay. You know I love a bit of woo will.
Speaker 4: Yes, I love a bit of wood.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. What I saw that little cheeky side.
Speaker 2: I will have you know, doctor Ginny, there are Unlicia's
Speaker 2: love the woo woot. They do so much so I'm
Speaker 2: being sent in spells. Okay, so do you want to
Speaker 2: hear about my spell? Because I want to convince you
Speaker 2: you know I'm unlucky in love, and you know that
Speaker 2: that some people are invested in me finding love me.
Speaker 1: Thank you well.
Speaker 2: This is a feng shwee spell about love and abundance
Speaker 2: and romance. Remember my date disaster? Yes, my love luck
Speaker 2: was down the toilet. A lovely lady called Pip Drysdale.
Speaker 1: Here was an author. I thought you might know Pip.
Speaker 1: She reached out and.
Speaker 2: She was like, have you tried the peach blossom luck spell,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I do beg your pardon, and.
Speaker 1: It's well grace, it's a feng swe thing.
Speaker 2: I can't say the name in peach blossom luck and
Speaker 2: it's for romance and attraction and abundance.
Speaker 4: This person white, yes she is.
Speaker 2: But I did a big deep dive on the internet
Speaker 2: and so basically all it costs is a couple of
Speaker 2: bunches of flowers that you can get from the supermarket
Speaker 2: or petrol station.
Speaker 1: Doesn't need to be a lot of money.
Speaker 2: What you need to do first is find your Chinese
Speaker 2: zodiac animal. Okay, so I me I am a tiger.
Speaker 2: So you find that out, because with that comes what
Speaker 2: direction in your room you're going to put the flowers.
Speaker 2: So for me, my direction is east. Then you need
Speaker 2: to look at the flower color and the vase color
Speaker 2: depending on what Chinese animal you are, and then you
Speaker 2: put the flowers in that vase. You get your iPhone
Speaker 2: out because you need to have a compass to work out.
Speaker 2: It's tricky, but it's actually not that tricky once you start.
Speaker 2: So then I could work out where east was, and
Speaker 2: then I put my blue or my green flowers into
Speaker 2: my vas.
Speaker 6: Where do you get green flowers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you just go. You have to.
Speaker 6: You can forage for how.
Speaker 3: Much time and money did you put into this?
Speaker 1: Can not that much.
Speaker 2: Actually I had to buy a new vas. My vase
Speaker 2: is blue and you have to change the water. So
Speaker 2: unless you keep your flowers and water clean and fresh,
Speaker 2: it has the adverse effect and there is no abundance
Speaker 2: coming in and your love life is fucked. So I'm
Speaker 2: now on my fourth lot of flowers? Is it working
Speaker 2: well abundance wise? I just had a massive new gig
Speaker 2: from work come in, so love life bow abundance changing.
Speaker 3: I think that the person who sells blue vases is
Speaker 3: now doing well in the abundance area, because who has
Speaker 3: a blue bars?
Speaker 1: I've got a lovely one.
Speaker 2: It was, I've got it on sale, sal you'd love it.
Speaker 2: So is anyone else filling the urge to do my
Speaker 2: woo woo?
Speaker 4: I mean as a Chinese person?
Speaker 1: Yeah, with one of the show stuff. Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 4: However, it on the person and where you live and
Speaker 4: wish direction all of that. So sometimes with these kind
Speaker 4: of tricks is very generalized.
Speaker 3: You know, we need it to be really basic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't expect too much if it happens. Great. If
Speaker 4: it doesn't, you know, you've just got flowers in your house.
Speaker 3: Is there a conclusion to this spell, like if, for example,
Speaker 3: the dream boat is to fall into your bed, is
Speaker 3: that assigned to take your blue pas and green and
Speaker 3: blue flowers and toss them out the window or something?
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I think it's you know, I mean, you
Speaker 2: can do it for as long as short as you want,
Speaker 2: but you have to keep changing the water. And when
Speaker 2: the flowers look like they're starting to die, you have
Speaker 2: to get rid of them, because then it's sort of
Speaker 2: it has the adverse effect. Anyway, Look, I'm only three
Speaker 2: lots of flowers in and my financial abundance is up,
Speaker 2: and my love life is is you know, is not up?
Speaker 6: It's not, but it's not down.
Speaker 1: It's not it's of non existence.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're using the compass wrong and you've got it
Speaker 3: in the financial abundance corner because there's every chance you're
Speaker 3: using the compass wrong. Let's face it, Kath, I.
Speaker 6: Know you love your woo, but I've got one even better.
Speaker 5: I just got back from the United States and there
Speaker 5: was the batshit craziest event there. You will not believe.
Speaker 5: What is that guys, you know that I spend a
Speaker 5: lot of time in Las Vegas, and we need to
Speaker 5: talk about the Enhanced Games because this is so exciting.
Speaker 1: So for anyone, what are they?
Speaker 5: So you know the Olympic Games, and you know how
Speaker 5: you're not allowed to take any doping at all, Like
Speaker 5: you get your medals removed.
Speaker 6: Okay, So if you are into.
Speaker 5: Your whole stack of your peptides, all your illegal stuff
Speaker 5: at the Olympics, you are invited to the Enhanced Games
Speaker 5: where there is nothing off limits, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 6: You can have as many supplements, as many you can
Speaker 6: biohack your way into anything that gives you an advantage.
Speaker 5: So much so that the organizers invested twenty two million
Speaker 5: US dollars, offering a million dollars each for any world
Speaker 5: record that could be broken by someone who is enhanced.
Speaker 6: Wow, so basically spoiler alert.
Speaker 5: Literally only one record was broken and was for a
Speaker 5: thirty meter sprint that doesn't even exist in the Olympic Game.
Speaker 6: Like only the unenhanced people were winning.
Speaker 4: That is shocking to me.
Speaker 5: I know that it'll be shocking to you, Sally Hepworth,
Speaker 5: because I know that you have a stack.
Speaker 6: I know the value of a.
Speaker 4: Hang on Jinny, what's a stack?
Speaker 5: So this is what these enhanced people and podcast bros
Speaker 5: obviously not us and like tech billionaires call their livers
Speaker 5: not yet tomorrow, call their supplement list, like their list
Speaker 5: of like pep tides that they take their biohacking kind
Speaker 5: of hacks, their tools, and also.
Speaker 6: All of the pet tides that they're objecting themselves with.
Speaker 3: I always think of it like a stack of bracelet
Speaker 3: sounds like a lot of work.
Speaker 5: So I really wanted to talk about our stack because
Speaker 5: we have had this conversation before in this room, and
Speaker 5: we have talked about what we're all taking, and I
Speaker 5: have just rolled my eyes at the lot of you.
Speaker 5: But now that you know that the whole thing is
Speaker 5: a complete bust, I still want to know, what are
Speaker 5: you going to Dineahill for?
Speaker 3: Well, I stand by my stack, and I've actually added
Speaker 3: a few since, of course that we were chatted.
Speaker 6: She's got the list out, guys, she's reading.
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure I didn't leave anything out.
Speaker 3: I am currently on HRT. I don't know does that
Speaker 3: count as it.
Speaker 6: Does it does? Or testosterone is for sale on your
Speaker 6: SAST website.
Speaker 3: I've thrown in the testosterone as well, so I've got
Speaker 3: the triple. I like my vitamin B for energy because
Speaker 3: I don't like to eat vegetables, Magnesium to get to sleep,
Speaker 3: that's always nice. I also like some melotonin of an evening,
Speaker 3: creatine because everyone says you need your creatine, Vitamin D
Speaker 3: because I don't really like to go outside, iron because
Speaker 3: I live on two minute noodles and don't really eat
Speaker 3: any meat. Omega three because that's supposed to be good
Speaker 3: for hair. Not that I've got any, but.
Speaker 1: You have added since we last talked. Yeah, wow, I.
Speaker 3: Took some away as well, just because I ran out
Speaker 3: of the bottle, so I just started taking other ones.
Speaker 4: That's a lot, man, I'm so lazy. And because I've
Speaker 4: spoken to doctor Junie about this, I actually been my
Speaker 4: magnesium and my protein powder recently because I can't deal
Speaker 4: with anymore. So now I just take vitamin D and
Speaker 4: then I take creatine sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then a.
Speaker 4: Charity of course. Oh I've got a few or Mega
Speaker 4: three left. But I'm not gonna buy anyone after this,
Speaker 4: because I've read somewhere that is actually not that the
Speaker 4: studies are not that great. I mean, there's so many
Speaker 4: things that it's a lot of misinformation out there. So
Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know, I'm not gonna spend any
Speaker 4: more money on any of these. I'm just going to
Speaker 4: go natural whole food again. When you say you take
Speaker 4: creatine or one of them, sometimes is that you like me.
Speaker 4: And that sometimes is when you notice it under the
Speaker 4: sink and you haven't taken it for a while, so
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I might throw in some creatine today. No,
Speaker 4: I mean, because I was Chinese, I always want to
Speaker 4: if I pay for something, I'll use it, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: But I mean it's just a wild worst otrogen. Please
Speaker 4: tell me to ben everything.
Speaker 6: Ben everything.
Speaker 5: But I'm just interested. Is anyone injecting themselves with peptides?
Speaker 1: Because this is so.
Speaker 3: What's the story on the peptides then? Because they are everywhere?
Speaker 5: They are everywhere, So you know, we've got to be
Speaker 5: real about what a peptide is.
Speaker 1: So what is it?
Speaker 6: So a peptide, like a protein.
Speaker 5: Is made up of a number of amino acids, which
Speaker 5: is like the base unit. They're the things that your
Speaker 5: body can absorb from your garts, right, and then when
Speaker 5: you combine them together, a tripeptide is like three amino acids,
Speaker 5: and then they like collagen is nineteen amino acids. They're
Speaker 5: different lengths of amino acids. Weight loss injections, GLP ones,
Speaker 5: they are peptides. They have been studied hundreds of thousands
Speaker 5: of people over many, many, many years. The peptides that
Speaker 5: are made in a lab in China that are labeled
Speaker 5: for research purposes have not been studied at all, not
Speaker 5: for safety, and not for efficacy.
Speaker 6: I can't believe people.
Speaker 5: Who just go, I'm not going to take any medication
Speaker 5: that will lower my cholesterol, but I will inject myself
Speaker 5: with these things that have research.
Speaker 3: Read it and the person on Reddit said it was
Speaker 3: really good. So you say that it's a bit like
Speaker 3: weight loss injections. So people, when you say they're injecting peptids, yeah,
Speaker 3: are they injecting it as if to be a GLP
Speaker 3: one or are they injecting it for a luminous skin.
Speaker 5: Luminous skin, a tan weight, loss of building muscle.
Speaker 6: There's so many of these things.
Speaker 5: And how it turns out that the enhanced games was
Speaker 5: just one big marketing gambit to actually sucker all of
Speaker 5: us midlife women to go onto their website and purchase
Speaker 5: their uber expensive medications, and it's targeting us, telling us
Speaker 5: that our brains will be better and our bodies will
Speaker 5: be better, and it's all based on like a lot
Speaker 5: of wou wu.
Speaker 1: It's pretty scary. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, guys, massive disclaimer we on Unleashed. We do not
Speaker 5: give medical advice. He'll be amazed to know. And you
Speaker 5: should go to your doctor, particularly because while I am
Speaker 5: a doctor, I'm definitely not your doctor, and so you
Speaker 5: definitely need to go and see your own JP.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a big gearshift. Now it's time for
Speaker 2: other people's problems. This is a part of the show
Speaker 2: where you send us your dilemmas, your questions, and your
Speaker 2: moral gray areas, and we attempt to offer good advice.
Speaker 2: Mostly they're silly or juicy, but today we have a
Speaker 2: really big one that stopped us in our tracks. This
Speaker 2: week's problem comes from Lisa, whose mum died very recently.
Speaker 2: She arranged a small farewell, but now a family member
Speaker 2: who has not shown up for years wants to organize
Speaker 2: something separate.
Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to Lisa.
Speaker 7: My mother died ten days ago. She was living in
Speaker 7: a residential care facility for nearly twelve years. Nobody even
Speaker 7: bothered to see her or even call me over the
Speaker 7: past five years to see how she was. So I
Speaker 7: decided that I wouldn't give her a formal funeral or service.
Speaker 7: I decided to do something at the nursing home with
Speaker 7: her friends there. Anyway, my cousin then sent me a
Speaker 7: message saying that she wanted to do something with her
Speaker 7: and her family outside of what I had arranged, which
Speaker 7: devastated me, made me angry, made me upset. I'm just
Speaker 7: trying to get through it, so this added stress and
Speaker 7: pressure is not helpful. And I didn't know how to
Speaker 7: reply to the message, so I just deleted it. I
Speaker 7: just thought, you know what, I can't I just can't
Speaker 7: respond to it. But now I've got sleepless nights, wake
Speaker 7: up in the middle of the night feeling genuinely sick
Speaker 7: and upset. I just want to get through this. Why
Speaker 7: do people make it so hard? Wow?
Speaker 2: Thanks Lisa for sharing. Yes, Lisa, Wow, that's a what
Speaker 2: do you think grace.
Speaker 4: Sometimes in such I mean, I've had so many deaths
Speaker 4: in my life that sometimes when people don't keep in
Speaker 4: touch or they don't bother asking about your family, there's
Speaker 4: always one or two that suddenly pops out and want
Speaker 4: to take control. I say no, because you weren't there
Speaker 4: all the way through. And I think those people do
Speaker 4: things for themselves rather than for you know, the passed
Speaker 4: away mum or her family, and I think it's for
Speaker 4: selfish reasons. Like to be honest, I'm the kind of
Speaker 4: person I will do exactly the same. I would delete it,
Speaker 4: and would I feel bad. Probably not. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, I do think this is such a tough moment, Lisa.
Speaker 4: You have to do what you want to do because
Speaker 4: those people were not there for you, period. That's what
Speaker 4: I would do.
Speaker 3: So look at something up. First of all, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 3: Lisa to about your mother. And it's something that I
Speaker 3: have thought about a lot. I have two so lucky
Speaker 3: to have two live parents, and you know, they're getting older,
Speaker 3: and also buried my great aunt a few years ago,
Speaker 3: and I've thought a lot about funerals and what they
Speaker 3: are and who they're for. And the thing that I've
Speaker 3: thought about a lot is that the funerals are actually
Speaker 3: for the people left behind more than they are for
Speaker 3: the one that has gone, even though of course we
Speaker 3: want to take their wishes into account, and of course
Speaker 3: make sure that the people that they would have wanted
Speaker 3: there are there. I have thought about the fact that
Speaker 3: there potentially will be people at my mother's funeral one
Speaker 3: day that maybe I wouldn't have invited, and I've kind
Speaker 3: of made my peace with the fact that that is
Speaker 3: the way it's going to be, not to say, and
Speaker 3: I really feel for you because I can understand and
Speaker 3: hear the pain in your voice and it's so raw
Speaker 3: and it's so new. I think you did the right
Speaker 3: thing by deleting the message. You don't have to be
Speaker 3: involved in that. But equally, I think it's you can't
Speaker 3: necessarily control what people decide to do to remember your mother,
Speaker 3: and maybe you've done what you wanted to do with
Speaker 3: her friends and the people who were in her life
Speaker 3: towards the end of her life and the nursing home,
Speaker 3: and they potentially can do something else. And that doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that they were there for her or you in
Speaker 3: the ways that they perhaps should have been, but that's
Speaker 3: their experience to do with, and you've already done your
Speaker 3: bit for your mother. I think that's that's probably my
Speaker 3: feeling in a little bit of mel Robbins let.
Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, first of all, you know, Lisa, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry I lost your mum, and for something to
Speaker 2: come in on ten days, you know, ten days in
Speaker 2: like this is really.
Speaker 1: Hard to have to deal with.
Speaker 2: I would have deleted it, but I'm also a massive overthinker,
Speaker 2: so Lisa, I would probably be awake, you know, possibly
Speaker 2: like you are, in the middle of the night thinking
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: You could always just reach.
Speaker 2: Out and just, you know, give them your blessing to
Speaker 2: remember your mum however they want to, you know, but
Speaker 2: obviously not to commit to anything past that.
Speaker 1: It's tricky, Jenny, what would you do.
Speaker 5: Putting aside the issues of the funeral? Lisa, I just
Speaker 5: want to put my arms around you. You sound like
Speaker 5: you're in a really bad place and I feel like
Speaker 5: you need a hug, and I want to know who's
Speaker 5: there for you, Lisa, Like, can you reach out to
Speaker 5: people to help you get through this period of intense grace,
Speaker 5: this real sadness that I hear from you. And I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna lie. I think you should probably check in
Speaker 5: with your GP. I want to make sure that there's
Speaker 5: nothing else going on, like depression something like that, because
Speaker 5: something as awful as losing a parent, if you are
Speaker 5: on the edge of depression, can just throw you to
Speaker 5: that next level. And so whatever you decide to do
Speaker 5: with the message, with the funeral, with the memory service,
Speaker 5: whatever you decide to do, that's.
Speaker 6: Not my main concern right now.
Speaker 5: My main concern is you, and I just I think
Speaker 5: you need a hug, and I think you need to
Speaker 5: take some time out for yourself right now to just
Speaker 5: heal and just don't worry about this.
Speaker 6: This is a a real side show. The cousin is
Speaker 6: a side show.
Speaker 1: But this is a really.
Speaker 5: Tough time and I just want you to know that
Speaker 5: in this room, we are hearing your pain and we
Speaker 5: just are putting a big hug around you and saying
Speaker 5: go and get the self care that you need to
Speaker 5: deal with this incredibly difficult situation and put yourself first
Speaker 5: right now. Your mum is gone, but you need to
Speaker 5: be okay. And that's all I care about right now.
Speaker 1: That's great advice. Yeah, Oh wow.
Speaker 4: Life's tougher, Yeah it is. But even within my own family.
Speaker 4: So I have four sisters. My older sister's eight years
Speaker 4: older than me, and my second sister is five years older,
Speaker 4: and I have a twin sister, and she's five minutes
Speaker 4: older than me. When my sister died at a young
Speaker 4: age of thirty nine, it went from she was fine.
Speaker 1: She came.
Speaker 4: I was living in London with my twin sister. She
Speaker 4: came with my niece who was eight. We went to
Speaker 4: Paris for a week, and then she came back to London,
Speaker 4: and then she went back to Hong Kong. And then
Speaker 4: two weeks later, we're going to go back to Hong
Speaker 4: Kong fororifaication. Suddenly, my mother called me one day in
Speaker 4: tears and she said, your sister has cancer. And I
Speaker 4: said what stage and she said, it's the last stage.
Speaker 1: She's going to die.
Speaker 4: So basically we only had three mats with her, and
Speaker 4: what's so sad with her? Kids were so young. My
Speaker 4: family is Buddhist, you know, we be living Buddhism. Towards
Speaker 4: the end of my sister's journey, she became a Christian.
Speaker 4: So for the past her two months left, she became
Speaker 4: a Christian. All her friends were Christians. My mother is
Speaker 4: a very strong mom, and she said, we're going to
Speaker 4: give your sister a Buddhist funeral. Naturally, some of her
Speaker 4: friends were so against it. They were trying to talk
Speaker 4: to us about how at the end she's a Christian,
Speaker 4: therefore it should be a Christian funeral, And to be honest,
Speaker 4: I was so shocked because I thought, she's not your family,
Speaker 4: she's your good friend. Let's leave it as that. And
Speaker 4: then my grief. Everyone has a different type of grief
Speaker 4: when it comes to death, right, My grief was angry grief.
Speaker 4: I just could not understand why they took her away
Speaker 4: so young. And my two siblings, who are a bit
Speaker 4: more chill than me, they were quietly grieving. My mom
Speaker 4: was broken, my dad was so broken because there's the
Speaker 4: eldest daughter. What I'm trying to say is, Lisa, is
Speaker 4: that sometimes you are the only one that know how
Speaker 4: you feel right, and it doesn't matter what other people
Speaker 4: trying to tell you what to do. You have to
Speaker 4: do something that you are so comfortable worth that you
Speaker 4: have no regret. And you know that's what your mom
Speaker 4: wants and your cousin they might want to do this
Speaker 4: because of their own guilt or whatever reason, let them
Speaker 4: do it. What I realize that sometimes the only things
Speaker 4: that were heal is time, nothing else, nothing else. I mean,
Speaker 4: my sister passed away like almost twenty years ago now
Speaker 4: and I'm still like this, you know, so you don't forget,
Speaker 4: You just grief in a much subtle way. And now
Speaker 4: at fifty three, young, I understand sometimes you just have
Speaker 4: to take what the universe has lying up for you,
Speaker 4: and that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually a beautiful thing that the Unlitias feel
Speaker 2: that we can hold space for them and they want
Speaker 2: to share the good and the bad and the absolute
Speaker 2: heart wrenching as this story is from Lisa.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and thank you for trusting us and for trusting
Speaker 5: the other unleashas to hear this, for sharing it with
Speaker 5: them as well.
Speaker 1: Thanks to real privilege.
Speaker 3: And we're sending you so much love, Lisa from all
Speaker 3: of us in this really difficult time. Guys. A few
Speaker 3: weeks ago, Kath told us that she had never been
Speaker 3: to a school form and so I had the idea
Speaker 3: that we should throw Kath a formal.
Speaker 4: Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Is that not the best idea, So we didn't just
Speaker 3: discuss it among us. We also threw it out to
Speaker 3: the listeners because we thought that they would have some opinions,
Speaker 3: and by god, did they have some opinions. They did
Speaker 3: not just respond, they flooded us. We were smashed with responses.
Speaker 3: So I've got a few examples of the dms that
Speaker 3: we got. We've got Yes, you have to throw Kath
Speaker 3: a formal underlie.
Speaker 1: Yes we do.
Speaker 3: She is the most deserving promo queen of them all
Speaker 3: and would look divine in taffata. Oh and I think
Speaker 3: we all agree with that. Another comment, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I can picture this so clearly, please please please underlined
Speaker 3: and in bold. Have this formal. And then another one
Speaker 3: we had was this has literally made my week. Capital
Speaker 3: Yes to this idea. I want to come to dance,
Speaker 3: so sign me up. So I think it's fair to
Speaker 3: say that the people want this, Yes they do.
Speaker 1: We need to deliver it.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking time to book a venue.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh wait, wait, wait, I need to budget.
Speaker 5: We're going to We're going to need to get the
Speaker 5: powers that bear across the line. So we need to
Speaker 5: come up with a plan to make Mia love this
Speaker 5: and say.
Speaker 4: Yes, you need to make a PowerPoint of why and
Speaker 4: how we're going to do this, and what's the budget.
Speaker 3: Look, I've got ADHD, which means I'm not the best
Speaker 3: of organized, but I'm going to put my hyper focus
Speaker 3: onto this yes, and I'm going to work out what'll happen,
Speaker 3: how to make it happen. So you're saying I need
Speaker 3: to pitch, yes, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2: Business like you know, think about all the times you've
Speaker 2: been officing offices PowerPoint you know, Oh you're a writer,
Speaker 2: haven't done that?
Speaker 4: You have to dress up, go into the ballroom, take charge,
Speaker 4: stand tore, and just go this is what we want
Speaker 4: and you're going to delivers.
Speaker 5: Okay, Grace, you're on the clothing we go eighties eighties
Speaker 5: VI yes, yeah, it.
Speaker 6: Is into the into the pitching meeting.
Speaker 4: We all behind you, will be be behind you, supporting.
Speaker 2: More is more, I think, no, go in, go in,
Speaker 2: dress like you're going to be at the foremal okays
Speaker 2: nineties vibe so.
Speaker 4: They can feel the vibe.
Speaker 3: What's it going to be like.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 6: It's going to the power of the people.
Speaker 5: We've got all the unleashes with all of these comments
Speaker 5: and d ms. We need to bring that to the
Speaker 5: powers that be at Point to do those.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think.
Speaker 3: That it's less from what I can tell about what's
Speaker 3: in the power point and more about the delivery.
Speaker 1: Okay, visuals.
Speaker 4: That's loads of visuals, pictures, pictures of Cat, Yes, because.
Speaker 1: It's her ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty in pink, pretty in pink, any kind of
Speaker 2: prom kind of moods.
Speaker 3: Definitely got that part.
Speaker 4: You go in dresses, Madonna, ages, material, going, loads of pearls, fun,
Speaker 4: white jail, white gel in the hair.
Speaker 6: Yes, just lots of teasing and your hair gel.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got the pitch nailed with sorted.
Speaker 6: I mean, who could say no?
Speaker 3: I think I'm feeling good about that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: The other thing we need to think about is what
Speaker 3: are we going to call it? Because I was thinking
Speaker 3: Cat's formal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is where I need to interject and say,
Speaker 2: I want to formal, but I don't want it to
Speaker 2: be all about me.
Speaker 1: Like my wedding day.
Speaker 2: I hated being the focus and like it just it
Speaker 2: freaks me out. So can we just make it more inclusive?
Speaker 2: Like every I don't know, I mean, when are we
Speaker 2: gonna do it? I don't want to do it this summer.
Speaker 2: I get super sweaty pets. We're all spring Okay, well
Speaker 2: what spring fling?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: I love that's so good, the spring fling.
Speaker 2: And it's for everyone. It's everyone's opportunity. We all get
Speaker 2: a cause queen.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's do it. Okay.
Speaker 3: I love that. And so then we've got the organization
Speaker 3: of where it's going to be. Now this I feel
Speaker 3: like we need brunafore Yes, what the hell is Bruna?
Speaker 3: Where we need it?
Speaker 5: A flight in l a Yeah, and we're going to
Speaker 5: get all the unleashures right like they want this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we want them all.
Speaker 5: There because we actually want to finally meet the people
Speaker 5: who have been sending us the best messages ever, Like,
Speaker 5: there are so many that I want to meet already.
Speaker 3: And everyone in their best prom dress. I actually probably
Speaker 3: still have my formal dress from the nineties. I mean
Speaker 3: it's not an attractive dress, ladies, we're feeling good about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get O my best pitching outfeed and
Speaker 3: I'm going to do my pal point sprinkling.
Speaker 1: We're on. You got this out? Yeah, it's out right. Well,
Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today.
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