Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya
Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this
Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on Hello and Welcome to canceled The
Speaker 1: Lazy Girl's Guide to Bizarre celebrity cancelations. I'm Jesse Stevens
Speaker 1: and I'm joined by Class Stephens and you changed our tagline.
Speaker 1: I jigged it up. You're in a period of your
Speaker 1: life right now where you're like, innovate, change, be better.
Speaker 1: People might not, as if they're following off on Instagram
Speaker 1: or TikTok that Jesse is very much leaning in every
Speaker 1: now and then on the weekend, I do make a
Speaker 1: few videos and I have had some learnings that I
Speaker 1: send to you and you ignore. Yeah, So it's very
Speaker 1: Alleywong when she says, like, you know, you're leaning in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am laying down. But it is very very that.
Speaker 1: So I say, great, yeah, And it's hard because leave
Speaker 1: me five stars, leave you too. Yeah, you know, but
Speaker 1: that rounds up to five. Today we are talking about
Speaker 1: the one the only Northwest. Someone is late. I'm hiding
Speaker 1: in the guest room, you guys. I'm hiding in the
Speaker 1: guest room because my kids will not leave me a lot.
Speaker 2: Hey, y me. If they're annoying me, I'll just be like,
Speaker 2: y'll get out my room.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this for real.
Speaker 2: Oh, I already do a lot of stuff that I
Speaker 2: want to be when I grow up. I just want
Speaker 2: to pursue my careers now.
Speaker 1: And as much as I say, I have been lying
Speaker 1: down from my lying down position. Jesse pitched this and
Speaker 1: I said, I don't think we can cancel the child,
Speaker 1: and Jesse said, that's not really what our podcast does.
Speaker 1: And I was like, hmm, it's called canceled, But mulgo,
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about Northwest, and all of
Speaker 1: the feelings are positive. We both agreed it was fine
Speaker 1: if all we do is love her, and that's all
Speaker 1: we will do. I mean, we're going to analyze what
Speaker 1: the culture has said and not all of its kind.
Speaker 1: But Northwest on TikTok is one of the greatest gifts
Speaker 1: to humanity. Every time I watched TikTok by Northwest, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm having a panic attack. The litenally Chloe,
Speaker 1: Me and La La, It's like the camera is moving
Speaker 1: really really fast. She's mouthing to something. One of her cousins.
Speaker 1: Often Penelope Disick is in it, or a friend who
Speaker 1: has famous parents, and you just know she's worn Kim down.
Speaker 1: She was put on this earth to humble Kim. Tim
Speaker 1: definitely said no social media, and Northwest has worn her
Speaker 1: mother down so much that Kim can she pushes them out.
Speaker 1: She was put here to test her. She was and
Speaker 1: it's now gotten to the where kins just interviewing, which
Speaker 1: is the relationship between every mother and daughter? My interview
Speaker 1: me on your social media. I am literally Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1: I want Northwest to be in charge about TikTok's strategy
Speaker 1: because I think she could do phenomenal things. She has
Speaker 1: something like nineteen point seven million followers on TikTok. I
Speaker 1: think she has his mouth. I think she should be president. Okay,
Speaker 1: so wait, sorry, do you watch her tiktoks? They come
Speaker 1: into all right? All right, because it's always like, where's Northwest? Oh?
Speaker 1: There she is? She she pops up, she throws the phone.
Speaker 1: She's making people do dances that they don't understand. But
Speaker 1: north is the boss and you will do as she says. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so who is north? Wikipedia states that she's a singer,
Speaker 1: which is weird. Because she's not anything. She's eleven. She
Speaker 1: is the firstborn of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West. She's
Speaker 1: the older sister to Saint Chicago and Palm. You just
Speaker 1: know she's a great older sister. She's got older sister energy.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, she's like Team Assemble. We're forming a band
Speaker 1: and were doing a TikTok. One of her closest friends
Speaker 1: is Maxwell, who is, of course the daughter of Jessica
Speaker 1: Simpson and NFL player Eric Johnson. Then there's her friend Gracie.
Speaker 1: Gracie is the sister of Selena Gomez. Then there's her
Speaker 1: friend Monro, the daughter of Maya Carey and Nick Cannon.
Speaker 1: You get the idea. How do you know this? I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about her gay. She just has
Speaker 1: celebrity friends, all of the celebrities. She's an extrovert. North
Speaker 1: was born on June fifteenth, twenty thirteen. Originally, do you
Speaker 1: know what her name was? Originally no Cadence with a K.
Speaker 1: Don't remember that, but then they changed it to North,
Speaker 1: which means highest point. Her name and birth to forget
Speaker 1: were leaked by TMZ, so I guess she hadn't even
Speaker 1: done her first Pooh when her privacy was first invaded.
Speaker 1: As a baby, she was in Kanye West's music video
Speaker 1: for Only One when she was nearly three. She flushed
Speaker 1: and I phone down the toilet, containing an early draft
Speaker 1: of Kanye's album, meaning he had to re record it
Speaker 1: from scratch. That is such Northwest energy. Why do I
Speaker 1: feel like the song that was on that album was
Speaker 1: pooty scoopy poopertty scoop. If you're confused by that, that's
Speaker 1: a reference to our Kanye West episode. That's actually a
Speaker 1: song by Kanye poop scoop poop poop poop? Did he
Speaker 1: woop scoop poop? I think he was trolling someone in it,
Speaker 1: but it is a real jam, and I think that
Speaker 1: three year old Northwest heard it and went pooperty scoop.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna flash that one down the toilet. She may
Speaker 1: have been genuinely confused. At ten, Northwest featured on Kanye's
Speaker 1: album He now refers to himself as yay or yay
Speaker 1: should it's yay, It's yay, Okay, yay, And on this album,
Speaker 1: Northwest wraps an entire verse. The song is called Talking.
Speaker 1: It hit the Hot one hundred, making her one of
Speaker 1: the youngest artists ever to chart. So that's why she's
Speaker 1: described as a singer. Correct, And is she good? She raps?
Speaker 1: Is she good? She completes? Ever? Okay, okay, very Northwest energy.
Speaker 1: I think she also directed the fund clip. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes sense. I can't check that out. The amount of
Speaker 1: people in show business being directed by Northwest right now,
Speaker 1: you would not believe. All right, she says she's working
Speaker 1: on her debut album. It's called Elementary School Dropout, which
Speaker 1: is a nod to Kanye's first album, College Dropout, College
Speaker 1: drop Out. And she's gonna do Elementary School Dropout. That's funny.
Speaker 1: North She is funny and I will listen to that immediately.
Speaker 1: She's got rhythm, I must say in this verse, the
Speaker 1: song's actually quite good.
Speaker 2: Is your best, miss missus Westy, don't try.
Speaker 1: To test me. It's good. My structure for today is
Speaker 1: as follows. Paintings Keeping Kim Humble, her chaotic first solo interview,
Speaker 1: and that line King performance Ah paintings. When Northwest was
Speaker 1: seven years old, her mother, Kim Kardashian, shared one of
Speaker 1: her paintings and expressed how proud she was Okay as
Speaker 1: a parent, this is something I've learned very very quickly,
Speaker 1: never do that. Oh wow, because people are waiting to
Speaker 1: be like, that's your seven year old's painting, look at
Speaker 1: my seven year old. No, that's not the way the
Speaker 1: internet reacted. That's not the way the internet reacted. Oh
Speaker 1: maybe that's just about my because I related to this
Speaker 1: because Luna was at a crash before Father's Day and
Speaker 1: they went to make fridge magnets and they gave Luna
Speaker 1: a little paintbrush, a little thing of pain. They said,
Speaker 1: paint the magnet. When it was explained back to me,
Speaker 1: they didn't even pretend she enjoyed it. It's the biggest
Speaker 1: piece of shit that they've rented our house. Luca and
Speaker 1: I both clearly want to throw it out. It's a mess.
Speaker 1: And then when you picked your daughter up from the
Speaker 1: same crash, they said, look, Matilda made a hat today. Well, well,
Speaker 1: that's the same baby that ten seconds ago was trying
Speaker 1: to eat her own foot. She's seven months old. I
Speaker 1: don't think she. I don't think she made a hat.
Speaker 1: That hat is I couldn't make that hat. I don't
Speaker 1: know anyone who could make that hat. You made that
Speaker 1: hat because you went to university, Matilda doesn't even recognize
Speaker 1: that hat as an object. Matilda didn't do shit today.
Speaker 1: Till didn't do shit. She hit another baby on the head.
Speaker 1: That is not the case with North because at seven
Speaker 1: Northwest painted this. I have three words. No, she didn't,
Speaker 1: how so how okay? So what I'm saying is a
Speaker 1: child holding up a canvas and there's a mountain, and
Speaker 1: there are trees, and there is water, and there is
Speaker 1: the reflection of the mountain in the water. She didn't.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm described by this columnist as an early
Speaker 1: mone Esque pastoral landscape of stored capped mountains, soaring pines,
Speaker 1: delicate flowers in a slowly meandering river, which draws the
Speaker 1: viewer's eye deep into the work, posing questions about the
Speaker 1: passing of time, the futility of human existence, and not
Speaker 1: put too fine a point on it, whether a child
Speaker 1: of seven could possibly have done this themselves. Okay. The
Speaker 1: only way I believe that she did it is if
Speaker 1: she did one of those paint and activities, but instead
Speaker 1: of alcohol, she had been and cordial or cordial, and
Speaker 1: she sat there and maybe she did a few little lines,
Speaker 1: but the teacher did most of it. Interesting that you
Speaker 1: have come to that conclusion. Kim Kardashian caption the photo
Speaker 1: my little artist north I don't know a single adult
Speaker 1: who can paignler, not single adult The Irish Times. I'd
Speaker 1: hang that on my wall. Not ironically, No, the looks
Speaker 1: I I generated. The Irish Times published a think piece
Speaker 1: in response, right, and that's what I just read. The
Speaker 1: excerpt from part of its headline was, did Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 1: seven year old paint this? Have we all just lost
Speaker 1: our mind? Eleven months into a global pandemic? We're all
Speaker 1: fraying around the edges. And it just went on to say,
Speaker 1: I don't believe I don't believe it for a moment. Vulture,
Speaker 1: the pop culture website, published a think piece titled did
Speaker 1: Northwest really Paint this? The US edition of The Daily
Speaker 1: Mail wrote Northwest did not paint this, and Vanity Fair
Speaker 1: went on with a headline the New Frontier in art criticism.
Speaker 1: Did Kim Kardashian, seven year old Northwest do the art
Speaker 1: or not? Could you tell them as a species were bored? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a lot a lot of time. It's just
Speaker 1: I wouldn't in the middle of a global pandemic, when
Speaker 1: everyone's just at home hating themselves. I wouldn't post a
Speaker 1: picture of Northwest with that painting because we've got too
Speaker 1: much time as a prodigy. I guess the thing is,
Speaker 1: it's like if Northwest did that, she has, She's been
Speaker 1: accelerated through school, she's that college. She just I have
Speaker 1: no doubt Northwest is gifted. Yeah, but that's very good.
Speaker 1: That painting is insane, So Kim, who's just like, I
Speaker 1: have an art prodigy on my hands. Like literally, sorry,
Speaker 1: sorry that her pain is so much better than the
Speaker 1: shit hat Matilda made crage she posted on Instagram in
Speaker 1: response to this grown adults breaking down whether or not
Speaker 1: my child actually painted this? How dare you see children
Speaker 1: doing awesome things and then try to accuse them of
Speaker 1: not capital letters being awesome? Don't play with me when
Speaker 1: it comes to my children or capitals. She went on
Speaker 1: to explain that her daughter and her best friend have
Speaker 1: been taking a serious oil painting class. North she added,
Speaker 1: worked incredibly hard on her painting, which took several weeks
Speaker 1: to complete. Do I think the teacher did a little
Speaker 1: bit of cleaning up the teacher's daughter made of TikTok's
Speaker 1: where we're at as a culture? Okay? Okay. A woman
Speaker 1: named Cameron Fredrickson explained that her mother, who teaches the
Speaker 1: serious oil painting classes, starts by teaching all of her
Speaker 1: students one particular painting, and it is this one that
Speaker 1: Northwest did. She said, Everyone that comes through her class
Speaker 1: goes through this exact painting, and so it is a
Speaker 1: bit of a paint by numbers situation, right, And like
Speaker 1: she has all the resources in the world, she just
Speaker 1: doing a lot of painting classes. Yeah. The thing about
Speaker 1: North is that she did another painting. Ah. Three years later,
Speaker 1: Kim sheard this painting by her now ten year old.
Speaker 1: Holy craffer, that's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It could be a photo. It's a beach and it's
Speaker 1: the reflection of the sun on the waves and the sky.
Speaker 1: Is this pinky, purply beautiful. Oh my North, you are
Speaker 1: so talented. That is a professional artist's easel. Yeah, right
Speaker 1: it Yeah. But one comment on Instagram read, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying she didn't do it. I'm saying I want to
Speaker 1: see her do it. She's exactly how I feel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want a time lapse. Another one said, Kimberly loves
Speaker 1: two things lying in photoshop Anyway, I just need to
Speaker 1: remind these commenters how far financial resources will get you.
Speaker 1: You got the right paint, you got the world's best teacher,
Speaker 1: You've got limitless lessons. You're not in the crash with
Speaker 1: the fridge magnets, you know. But if anybody, if you
Speaker 1: know anything about kids, it's that you can lead a
Speaker 1: horse to it. You can all paint by numbers. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: why is she painting her nose? I agree, And that
Speaker 1: feels like something you're working through privately about your own child.
Speaker 1: But what I'll say is that I have tutored private
Speaker 1: school kids, right, parents paying a fortune for their education,
Speaker 1: and I'm tutoring them multiple times a week. And I
Speaker 1: have had a parent stand there and just tell me
Speaker 1: how incredible their child is writing essays. I'm like, mate, child,
Speaker 1: ain't incredible at writing essays. You're paying in some way
Speaker 1: for those essays to be with. Yeah, so I'm incredible
Speaker 1: at writing essays. Thank you, Thanks for the cash. The cash.
Speaker 1: One thing that I will bring up, I'm suspicious of
Speaker 1: Northwest's ability to follow instructions. Yeah, because it's not the Northwest,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, UNTI, So I mean, yeah, she's on TikTok.
Speaker 1: So I'm surprised she can put down TikTok for long enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to make this masterpiece. I think because didn't have TikTok.
Speaker 1: That's why he was so prolific. Yeah. Do I think
Speaker 1: that maybe she was signed up to the art classes,
Speaker 1: she got bored. She paid her friend. Yeah, she started
Speaker 1: a business. I think she paid a teacher and she
Speaker 1: paid her friend. I have more money in my bank
Speaker 1: account than you will learn in your entire lifetime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will give you hunter buck, pay me a picture,
Speaker 1: give to my mum. It'll be funny. She put it
Speaker 1: on Instagram, ha ha ha, because she's a troll. And
Speaker 1: then she'd be like, here's an Nda and she's trying
Speaker 1: to undermine the credibility of Kim Yeah, which is a
Speaker 1: number one pastime. Yeah, which is why she's genius. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Northwest of the I ts Yeah, friends, we are
Speaker 1: doing a live event canceled live at the University of Sydney.
Speaker 1: You can come and see us in real life at
Speaker 1: the Alumni Festival the University of Sydney on Saturday, November
Speaker 1: the thirtieth. The event is free, but you have to
Speaker 1: register for tickets, so we'll pop a link in our
Speaker 1: show notes for that is just so lazy girl that
Speaker 1: we don't expect you to pay. We would never know. Well,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't say never, because one day we might like
Speaker 1: to profit, but not now. Today is not that day.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be quite a almost an
Speaker 1: emotional event because you and I both went. The last
Speaker 1: time we're at Sidney UNI was when we were at
Speaker 1: Sydney UNI. Yeah, what was when I was graduating. We
Speaker 1: were studying there. Yeah, we're doing all of our courses
Speaker 1: in celebrities. Yeah, we studied a degree in pop culture cancelations.
Speaker 1: We did, and they don't offer that. They don't. It's
Speaker 1: not offer very good degrees. There are a bunch of
Speaker 1: other events happening across the day. They're not just putting
Speaker 1: the festival on for us. Oh they might be. You
Speaker 1: would we call ourselves headliners. No, because doctor Carl's going
Speaker 1: to be there. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, there are
Speaker 1: some brilliant events on. Go and have a look. It
Speaker 1: is University of Sydney, November the thirtieth, See you there.
Speaker 1: Keeping Kim Humble North's mum Kimmy Kay is worth at
Speaker 1: least one point seven billion between I think are two parents.
Speaker 1: Yay as well, they're like, well over two billion dollars, right.
Speaker 1: Kimmy k one of the most famous women in the world,
Speaker 1: and then she had a daughter, and as we aforementioned,
Speaker 1: daughters keep you humble. In an episode of Keeping Up
Speaker 1: with the Kardashians, Kim said, North can be critical. I
Speaker 1: had John Galliano fitting me for dress and North was
Speaker 1: giving notes. This is just her vibe. Imagine you are
Speaker 1: John Galliano, who is dressed the most stylish famous people
Speaker 1: in the world, and you've got a nine year old
Speaker 1: being like, I hate it. I'm not into it. And
Speaker 1: I've seen that episode. Yeah, she has sass. She's giving
Speaker 1: quite observations. She takes after a father does. Everyone says
Speaker 1: good because that's what Kanye is like. He's very bad style.
Speaker 1: In November of last year, Kim was preparing for the
Speaker 1: met Gala with a carl Legerfield inspired outfit and she
Speaker 1: said to North, I respect your opinion, Please just be
Speaker 1: easy on me today. North replied, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I won't say it at all if you don't want
Speaker 1: me to. But I am not gonna lie. Thank you.
Speaker 1: But North doesn't know how to not say it at all.
Speaker 1: So she said about Kim's outfit, which featured fifty thousand
Speaker 1: freshwater perls, this is a quote. There's way too many
Speaker 1: gaps in the pearls, Like she's.
Speaker 2: A Hawaiian girl with her dress old wrest the diamonds
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: I like the pearls.
Speaker 2: I just don't like that it looks like from the door.
Speaker 1: She went on to say that the pearls looked fake,
Speaker 1: and Kim was like, well they're not. And She's like,
Speaker 1: well they look fake. And someone needs to take Norse
Speaker 1: to the playground because she's getting antsy. She's spending too
Speaker 1: much time indoors, and she's spending too much time at
Speaker 1: mum's work. She is the sheer Pirelli. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to say that word. Schipperelli, Chipperelli, Chipperelli. Ye creative
Speaker 1: director Daniel Rosebery was standing there while North was delivering
Speaker 1: her feedback, and he said, it is like I am
Speaker 1: being punked the night before the met getting grilled by
Speaker 1: a nine year old. That's our girl, that's our girl.
Speaker 1: You know how people complain about their bosses. You'll be
Speaker 1: at drinks and someone's like, oh, my boss is so annoying.
Speaker 1: They want me to like, come to work, girl, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and someone else's like, my boss is annoying. And then
Speaker 1: and then imagine someone's complaining and you're like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: Daniel Rosebery. He's having a drink after work. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, who's your boss? Nine year old North?
Speaker 1: And then the teacher pops up, Oh yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: I'm here too. She made me paint this painting ninety hours.
Speaker 1: It took me, she took credit. I had to sign
Speaker 1: an nda. But our girl wasn't done. Because while she's here,
Speaker 1: she might as well reflect on Kim's past. Metgala looks,
Speaker 1: which from North's point of view, we're also shit? And
Speaker 1: am I interested in knowing Northwest take on Kim Kardashian's past.
Speaker 1: Megala looks absolutely what I've always learned to know. We're
Speaker 1: at a point of climate catastrophe. What the world needs
Speaker 1: is to know what Northwest thinks of Kim's past. Metgala looks,
Speaker 1: Remember the all black ensemble with the face covering I
Speaker 1: like to call Valaga, Yeah, I like to call it
Speaker 1: the black condom, a black condom. Yeah, she said, Kim
Speaker 1: looks like you're getting covered by a plastic bag and
Speaker 1: you're suffocating and cannot see. She's been known to tell
Speaker 1: Kim that she needs a pimple patch. Patch, Oh, I
Speaker 1: need a pimple patch. Once a producer asked North, can
Speaker 1: your mother cook? And she exclaimed, hell, no, good already heck.
Speaker 1: Kim also says that whenever they get into a disagreement,
Speaker 1: North will say, your house is so ugly. It's all white.
Speaker 1: Who lives like this?
Speaker 2: North?
Speaker 1: You live there? It's your house too. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: being nine and walking around the house you live in
Speaker 1: and saying to your mom, your house is so ugly? Mom,
Speaker 1: why don't we paint the walls? Kim said, she just
Speaker 1: thinks that like gets to me and it's kind of
Speaker 1: mean because I like my house. She's mad because apparently
Speaker 1: Yay lives an apartment. Yeah, and North is more an
Speaker 1: apartment vibe, and she's mad that she doesn't live in
Speaker 1: an apartment. I thought Yay lived on the ranch. You do,
Speaker 1: I think he lives in both. Then was the time
Speaker 1: Kim was on Instagram saying how much he loves Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 1: She was like, how cute is Olivia Rodrigo? Can't wait
Speaker 1: for a new album, I love Driver's License. But what
Speaker 1: she didn't know was it North was working in the background.
Speaker 1: North pipes up cute as Olivia Rodrigo. You guys, I
Speaker 1: can't wait for her other And you guys know I
Speaker 1: love drivers. They so, yes, I do. I listened to
Speaker 1: it all the time. Then Kim was like, I do, Saint,
Speaker 1: don't we listen to it in the car? Tell North? North? Stop?
Speaker 1: Saint back me up here. Saints like, Hi, I'm terrified
Speaker 1: of North. I will always default to North. I shan't
Speaker 1: be speaking out of turn. Then Kim was unboxing something
Speaker 1: for her own beauty brand, so she was working right.
Speaker 1: But North, as mentioned, always there, always the North pipes up. North.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you be at school? Shouldn't you be with your
Speaker 1: oil painting all the playground? No? Because she pipes up,
Speaker 1: and she says, why do you Why do I talk
Speaker 1: different from what form my videos? I'm the same human being.
Speaker 1: I don't talk different. How do I talk different? She's
Speaker 1: like the sibling we all have who's like, oh, just
Speaker 1: when you think you're getting some confidence, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: you down a peg, which is what siblings it's really
Speaker 1: important for ego. Kim replied, why do I talk different
Speaker 1: from what? And then North said that she puts on
Speaker 1: a different voice on her Instagram videos. How do I
Speaker 1: talk guys? Guys? I got this? Is that? What is that?
Speaker 1: What I say? Is that? What I sound like? Buzzy
Speaker 1: Kim got defensive, but then North had her cousin who
Speaker 1: was with her, Penelope, and she was like, doesn't she
Speaker 1: speak different? And Penelope was like, yeah, you do speak differently.
Speaker 1: No offense. North is terrifying, utterly a fight. She says,
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to come back if I don't agree with them.
Speaker 1: Her first solo interview. In October twenty twenty three, ten
Speaker 1: year old Northwest did her first ever solo interview. Can
Speaker 1: you even believe she held off for ten years? I
Speaker 1: mean for the first three she probably couldn't speak in
Speaker 1: coherence center. Oh she had stuff to say it eighteen months,
Speaker 1: but finally she speaks. She spoke to ID magazine and
Speaker 1: it's all like you might have seen her on TikTok
Speaker 1: or posing on Instagram with her siblings, but she's never
Speaker 1: opened up in a solo interview until now. Okay, what
Speaker 1: does she have to open up about? For example, her divorce?
Speaker 1: What her show that was axed her children that she
Speaker 1: shares with her ex partner at the ranch. I do
Speaker 1: want North gossip, oh, she provided, don't you worry about that?
Speaker 1: They asked for three words, they said, north just go
Speaker 1: yourself in three words, she said the best ever. She
Speaker 1: spoke about her aspirations because just because she's ten doesn't
Speaker 1: mean she doesn't have aspirations anymore, right, And she said,
Speaker 1: I want to own skims and I want to own
Speaker 1: easies like Yazy Easy brand. Sorry, not the products. You
Speaker 1: want to own the brands, Claire. I know you've been
Speaker 1: lusting over Northwest style and she says her preferred outfit
Speaker 1: is vintage T shirts and spider sweats and one of
Speaker 1: fuck as spider sweats. So I griggled it. It's a
Speaker 1: straightwear brand. A jumper costs four hundred USD and the
Speaker 1: pants are four hundred and forty USD, meaning that a
Speaker 1: matching tracksuit will cost you eight hundred and forty USD
Speaker 1: aka like twelve hundred dollars dollars. Yeah, that's her vibe.
Speaker 1: She was then asked who her style icon was, and
Speaker 1: she said that would be who do you think it is?
Speaker 1: Who do you think I Star? No? Yeah, it's herself,
Speaker 1: which I think is inspirational. A lot more people should
Speaker 1: give that answer. Yeah. Yeah, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: right around articles, so like articles that covered it, and
Speaker 1: The Independent wrote, The Young Creative spoke highly of her siblings.
Speaker 1: She is ten years old wife, calling her a young creative.
Speaker 1: She is a child, her job is charp and it's
Speaker 1: like of her siblings, of like her little sister. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: who's like sick Jesse. I'm not over her wanting to
Speaker 1: own skims. You can't have an interview with someone and
Speaker 1: just say you want to run someone else's company. It's
Speaker 1: Kim's though she doesn't think Kim's equipped. She's like that
Speaker 1: business needs a real CEO. And Northwest is marching in.
Speaker 1: You're too young to wear skims, let alone own skims.
Speaker 1: You need to go to score. Look. The Young Creative
Speaker 1: spoke highly of her siblings, adding that the best fashion
Speaker 1: shows she's attended in Paris, they weren't in New York.
Speaker 1: They were her little sister's fashion show in her closet. Okay,
Speaker 1: I believe it. Why is Northwest in Paris on New York? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, why do you have those comparisons?
Speaker 1: To make. Has she been to Milan, I would say so,
Speaker 1: and that she has sat in the front row as
Speaker 1: like things have been sent down, Yeah, the runway, and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, and North is just sitting there her legs crossed,
Speaker 1: just shaking her head. Dear schools. Dad hat hated North.
Speaker 1: But she has more aspirations, thank god. She wants to
Speaker 1: live in Japan, which is very ten year old energy. Ah,
Speaker 1: like she do well in Japan. She wants to live
Speaker 1: in Japan. She wants to be a basketball stuff, she
Speaker 1: wants to make music, and she wants to do art
Speaker 1: on the side. She said, when I'm like thirteen, I
Speaker 1: want to walk dogs to make money to buy art
Speaker 1: supplies because everything around here is so expensive. Your mom
Speaker 1: is a literal bonnaire. Honey, please elaborate on what you
Speaker 1: cannot afford. Why do you know that things are expensive?
Speaker 1: Why do you know what expensive means? What do expensive
Speaker 1: mean to you? Like she wears very fancy designer clothes,
Speaker 1: always commenting on and it's like, let's not pretend you're
Speaker 1: going to have a normal teenage job. You're going to
Speaker 1: be running skim She also said that she doesn't like
Speaker 1: painting helicopters because and this is a direct quote, all
Speaker 1: these little lines. She doesn't have paid. Yes for those lines.
Speaker 1: That quote made it to print. Then I'd say, how
Speaker 1: about your other ones? They had some lines in it,
Speaker 1: your beautiful artworks that were not done by it. But
Speaker 1: you're not going to get a hot You're not going
Speaker 1: to get a Northwest helicopter. You're not. You're not. And
Speaker 1: I want to know what was the question that led
Speaker 1: to that answer? Do you like drawing helicopters? No, definitely not.
Speaker 1: I think she was just kind of painting generally as
Speaker 1: a young creative. I don't love painting helico it is
Speaker 1: I don't, And I want to know what young saint
Speaker 1: doesn't love painting more interviews with children. I agree that
Speaker 1: Lion King performance. In May four, ten year old Northwest
Speaker 1: performed I just can't Wait to be King as Simba
Speaker 1: at the Hollywood Bowls Lion King thirtieth Anniversary concert event,
Speaker 1: and I will say I am glad this didn't happen
Speaker 1: during COVID. We didn't have quite as much time, No,
Speaker 1: but we made time. People didn't make time. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize this was an official Disney production and it included
Speaker 1: the likes of Billy Eichner and Jeremy Lyon's very established performers.
Speaker 1: This is a clip from Northwest's performance Lady Kings Enemies
Speaker 1: Beware just quite a little. The main event, Little King
Speaker 1: Last Perform.
Speaker 2: I'm writing, I'm not getting down.
Speaker 1: I'm working to discuss. Do I think she has the
Speaker 1: confidence to be a performer? Absolutely? Do I think she practiced?
Speaker 1: That is a big question. I think the problem is
Speaker 1: that with her ambitions. Yeah, I want to be a basketballer.
Speaker 1: I want to own skims, I want to own yeasymm.
Speaker 1: Your house is ugly. You can do it all, but
Speaker 1: you can't do it all at once. No, no, no no.
Speaker 1: And that's a hard lesson to learn, and it is
Speaker 1: and I think she's learnt it because you can't get
Speaker 1: on stage of Simba No and not know your actions. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Because what you're referring to, and I do think that
Speaker 1: this is critical, is that the rest of the performance
Speaker 1: appears to be choreographed and very polished and very very polished.
Speaker 1: And what doesn't appear to be choreographed is what Northwest
Speaker 1: is doing in that she's simply strolling, and she's strolling
Speaker 1: ausually around the stage, and she is what could only
Speaker 1: be described as vocal risks. She is, we shouldn't be
Speaker 1: taking vocal risks on performance tonight. I don't think she
Speaker 1: was going to rehearsals. No, it doesn't appear that there
Speaker 1: were any rehearsals. And oh no, no, no, sorry, they were rehearsal.
Speaker 1: She's in the West. Had an interview that day, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think she was. She had her interview, and then
Speaker 1: she had her art lesson, and then she was in
Speaker 1: a board meeting. She was bidding for to buy skims.
Speaker 1: It was a whole thing. But the tricky thing is
Speaker 1: I read at the time it's called something casting. There's
Speaker 1: a term for it, and it's when you never have
Speaker 1: them no, no, no, like a snaptism. But it's called like
Speaker 1: something casting, which means you're casting to attract an audience.
Speaker 1: So that's why you cast a Northwest Okay. Did it work?
Speaker 1: Absolutely yes? Because why do I know about that? About
Speaker 1: that performance? Okay? Well, In response to her performance, the
Speaker 1: hashtag Nepo baby started trending, and her voice was roundly
Speaker 1: criticized for not being up to the same standard as
Speaker 1: the rest of the cast. Commentators said people had to
Speaker 1: pay to watch this performance. And there are plenty of
Speaker 1: ten year olds much more talented. Singer and screenwriter Nick
Speaker 1: Atkinson said, any performer or parent of a young performer
Speaker 1: who has spent years training and acting, dance and singing
Speaker 1: is allowed to be really deeply offended by this casting choice.
Speaker 1: And actor and former talk show host Rosy O'Donnell described
Speaker 1: the performance as tragic on every level. Ah, it turns
Speaker 1: out that Northwest was actually a special guest that night
Speaker 1: alongside another special guest. Huh, and that was Jennifer Hudson.
Speaker 1: Okay and pause, Okay, you're Jennifer Hudson. Jennifer Hudson is
Speaker 1: the youngest female recipient ever of all all for major
Speaker 1: American entertainment awards Emmy, Grammy, Oscar and Tony All in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. And you're a special guest. She also
Speaker 1: made it from nothing, Yes, like she did, build a career.
Speaker 1: She did, And then she gets asked, can you be
Speaker 1: a special? I will absolutely besued's one others? Is it
Speaker 1: lyn Manuel, Lynn Manuel Miranda? Yeah it is not Lyn
Speaker 1: Manuel Miranda. Who is it? Well? It is Northwest. Have
Speaker 1: you seen her painting? Very talented little girl. You might
Speaker 1: have heard her rapping oh, on what song? Her Dad's that? Okay,
Speaker 1: her Dad's album. There were unsubstantiated rumors that Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money for North to secure that role.
Speaker 1: There's no evidence of that, and a lot of headlines asked,
Speaker 1: is Kim Kardashian to blame? To which I would like
Speaker 1: to point out that Northwest has doss parents. She does,
Speaker 1: Thank you, she does. And that was all very Kanye.
Speaker 1: I think that was all Kanye. Yes. But the other
Speaker 1: thing is you're also underestimating North because she is gonna
Speaker 1: get what she wants. Yeah. Yeah, I think she held
Speaker 1: her mother hostage and she said, I'm gonna be simper,
Speaker 1: And Kim said, the thing about that is you gotta
Speaker 1: work hard. Mummy works hard. Yeah, get your ass up
Speaker 1: and work. It seems like nobody wants to work these days. Mummy.
Speaker 1: It's mummy's brand is that she works hard. You can
Speaker 1: say lots of things about mummy, but mummy works hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and grandma works hard. And North said, I don't want
Speaker 1: to work hard. I just want to be Simba. In
Speaker 1: North's defense, can you think of a more fitting person
Speaker 1: to perform I just can't wait to be king? Is
Speaker 1: she the closest thing to American royalty. Yes or no. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what the song is all about. I know it
Speaker 1: was written for her. How about the outfit? Okay, also lackluster? Lackluster.
Speaker 1: So I think I think she missed a fitting. I
Speaker 1: think she dressed herself. I think she was like, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna wear because she's wearing kind of
Speaker 1: yellow fluffy slippers and like a yellow hoodie and everyone
Speaker 1: else is in mad theater design and Northwest is like,
Speaker 1: what you might not know about me is that my
Speaker 1: style icon is myself, and myself likes hoodies, and that's
Speaker 1: the problem. The other thing about this simper performance is
Speaker 1: I think maybe it would be fair to say, does
Speaker 1: she have the talent? No? Does she have the experience
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Will she bring the energy? Yeah? Probably, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think. I think I think she
Speaker 1: brought the energy. I've seen more from Northwest in a
Speaker 1: TikTok video than I saw on that stage. I think
Speaker 1: she got nervous. I think she did. I think she
Speaker 1: started and then she got tired. She went, who this
Speaker 1: is way harder than it looks. I think that's what happened,
Speaker 1: and she was like, I need a nap now that
Speaker 1: you mention it, I am a kid. I need a
Speaker 1: snack and a nap. Claire. It is time for charges
Speaker 1: and sentences. My charge for you Northwest is rushing. Ah.
Speaker 1: You know at school, how there's a kid that's always
Speaker 1: rushing the wants to get in the work. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: their artwork, they're like, I'm finished and they throw it
Speaker 1: at the teacher. Your glue hasn't dried. Yeah, my exam,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to hand it in. Well, there's two sides, mate,
Speaker 1: and you've missed the fourteen questions on the other side
Speaker 1: and you've not passed. And that's why we need to
Speaker 1: take a breath. Yeah. Or it's like class everybody can
Speaker 1: everybody go to the other side of the classroom running
Speaker 1: in the classroom with scissors. Yes, it's dangerous and it's
Speaker 1: also very school finishes at three point thirty. It's three
Speaker 1: twenty one. Just packed her back to the Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's out of there and she's just like, I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how boring it. It's seat about Seat
Speaker 1: North is a rushier, And by a russier, I mean
Speaker 1: she wants to start her careers. She wants to be
Speaker 1: a professional basketballer. Same she wants to be a musical
Speaker 1: theater protege and an artist and a designer and a singer.
Speaker 1: Does she want to be a musical theater prodigy? I
Speaker 1: don't think she think she did for a minute, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think maybe that dream has come and gone. The
Speaker 1: thing is, I also wanted to be all of those things,
Speaker 1: but I grew up with enormous privilege. And do you
Speaker 1: know what that privilege was, Claire anonymity not having the means? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank fuck, we didn't have the means. I charge her
Speaker 1: with rushing and having the means to pursue her dreams,
Speaker 1: which no ten year old should be able to pursue
Speaker 1: their dreams. The reason there's a struggle is because entry
Speaker 1: North there's got to be a barrier, and because mostly
Speaker 1: you should quit. Yea, yeah, it should get a bit hard,
Speaker 1: and then you quit, and then you never SINBA because
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be in the musical with Jennifer Hadson, and
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be in the top one hundred with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't know yet you can be one day, but huff,
Speaker 1: do you finished primary school? Okay? Have your primary school graduation? Sing?
Speaker 1: A song, shed some tears, and then maybe pursue something.
Speaker 1: When you'll say thirteen, you do have to wait till
Speaker 1: you're thirteen. My sentence was so easy. It came to
Speaker 1: me quickly. So you might not know that North dabbles
Speaker 1: in TikTok lives and they have caused some issues because
Speaker 1: she'll be on with Kim and she'll start spilling tea
Speaker 1: and Kim says, North, I'll turn it off. So one
Speaker 1: of them was they were recently doing a TikTok live
Speaker 1: and she just started openly talking about her dyslexia and
Speaker 1: Kim was like, North, I don't talk about about that
Speaker 1: stuff because I don't know if you're ready to talk
Speaker 1: about it. And she's like, I'm just lexing. She is
Speaker 1: an icond, She's an icon.
Speaker 2: Guys, elex yes, do you even know what is? Should
Speaker 2: I drop an album? Nor I'm going to live right now?
Speaker 1: Because you just are really saying me too much. I
Speaker 1: love you, but I purposely I will talk about stuff
Speaker 1: I know that you're going through. And Kim was threatening her,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is the danger. There is
Speaker 1: simply not a more dangerous thing happening in the world
Speaker 1: right now than northwesterning live on TikTok. I can't emphasize
Speaker 1: I don't know she's going to start international goldge. She
Speaker 1: is because she's going to say something yeah, wrong, that
Speaker 1: she should not be able to say. But her access
Speaker 1: to TikTok live means that what she can do is
Speaker 1: paint the oil painting in real time and I can
Speaker 1: watch it. Okay. You know how recently Ned Brockman did
Speaker 1: his record. He was running his laps and it was
Speaker 1: all live on TikTok. I could go check how Ned's going.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to check how North's going. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can see it. It's like she paints for three minutes.
Speaker 1: She gets bored every time you go back and check
Speaker 1: for the next nine days. She's not on the left.
Speaker 1: See the back of the teacher's like dressed is not
Speaker 1: and he's like that's not some persons too tall. It's
Speaker 1: Kim sitting there doing the painting being whipped by North.
Speaker 1: Do it faster month. North, we're live, and you don't
Speaker 1: understand the idea of live. Yeah, So that's what I
Speaker 1: need to see because if I'm going to go head
Speaker 1: to head with the haters for you, North, which I
Speaker 1: do I need evidence. I need to be able to point.
Speaker 1: I need to be able to link to the TikTok
Speaker 1: live and go there's her landscape or you know, even
Speaker 1: if it's not, it's like, okay, so she can't paint,
Speaker 1: but she can. She's good at managing, yes, yeah, a
Speaker 1: painting for her. Yeah, she's good at whipping others. And
Speaker 1: then it's like she gets the art teacher to paint it,
Speaker 1: and then she gets Kim to promote it, like she's
Speaker 1: got her publicity plan, Like she's good, she's great at
Speaker 1: strat Yeah, yeah, okay, my charge being my everything and
Speaker 1: being the most entertaining. There is something about eleven year
Speaker 1: old girls where adolescence hasn't quite hit them yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's not those trace of self loathing and they're
Speaker 1: just so you go, girl, but about themselves. So you
Speaker 1: know what, a baby discovers themselves in the mirror and
Speaker 1: they're like fuck, and they look at their own belly
Speaker 1: and that that is stormorn and I'm like, you look
Speaker 1: perfectly round, so pregnant. Yeah, but they are just like
Speaker 1: that the most beautiful the exclaiming of like that's the
Speaker 1: most beautiful thing I ever seen in the mirror. Northwest
Speaker 1: still has that energy. I really hope it never goes
Speaker 1: away but never ever gets taken from her because she
Speaker 1: is actually never has another style like on what were
Speaker 1: the three words she used to describe herself, I'm the
Speaker 1: best or something. Yeah. I hope that that really stays
Speaker 1: with her because she is the goat. Now my sentence,
Speaker 1: This is really easy and I've actually never been more serious.
Speaker 1: Sentence show. Yeah, we've had keeping up with the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: We've had Chloe and Courtney take various cities. There was
Speaker 1: a cocktails Cocktails with Chloe. Yep. We've even had Robin China.
Speaker 1: Oh that tanked, all right, So what we need we
Speaker 1: need Northwest show. I think it will outperform all of them.
Speaker 1: First episode absolutely, And what she's doing, oh okay. All
Speaker 1: I want to know is eleven year old gossip. Who's
Speaker 1: your group of friends? Who are they fight it? Who
Speaker 1: do we hate? Who hate? What's going on in school?
Speaker 1: Show me your desk, show me your locker, yeah, take
Speaker 1: me to your room, tell me secrets, tell me ghost stories. Yes.
Speaker 1: And I think I think the thing about north is
Speaker 1: she's fun. She is so much fun and watching her
Speaker 1: trying to wrangle a TikTok chance and having like kind
Speaker 1: of a piece of camera where a kid's going, I
Speaker 1: don't really want to do this dance and she's like,
Speaker 1: you can do it. You could know, and then North
Speaker 1: behind her being like say it mal that it Penelope,
Speaker 1: do it you coward like that? I'm into that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing that she will provide us with so
Speaker 1: obviously that's friendships, and then there's also family gossip. She
Speaker 1: will be the undoing of this entire Yes, she has
Speaker 1: access to gossip, which is this is a nuclear codes.
Speaker 1: Northwest is the nuclear code she has. She's the red button.
Speaker 1: You want to know what happened with Chloe and Lama.
Speaker 1: I know you want to know what happened with Courtney
Speaker 1: and Scott. I can tell you. I think she has
Speaker 1: deep intel into the OJ case, like through all the
Speaker 1: generations her grandfather. You want to know about Pete Davidson
Speaker 1: and Mum, I tell you, I'll tell you. I've got
Speaker 1: her phone here? Why why? Fine? So I just think
Speaker 1: that that is the television show that is just waiting
Speaker 1: to be made, and I think it's what she wants,
Speaker 1: is what I want. She will rehabilitate the Kardashian Empire,
Speaker 1: not that it needs rehabilitation, but I love her. Need
Speaker 1: to Claire before we go, we need a lazy girl story. Alright, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a really good an. Okay, this is from Joe.
Speaker 1: I just got a robot vacuum cleaneth my birthday. Best
Speaker 1: invention ever. Okay, firstly, may I say robot vacuums. I
Speaker 1: don't have one yet. We gave one away to lazy girls.
Speaker 1: It's part of our lazy Girl giveaways. Best lazy girl.
Speaker 1: Her name is Raquel. Oh yeah, and she also mops.
Speaker 1: I gave her a test try, and after two minutes
Speaker 1: of mopping, she was at nineteen percent, which is just
Speaker 1: below the optimum lazy girl level of everything. And she
Speaker 1: went back to the charging stage to take a little nap.
Speaker 1: Don't she got a lazy go vacuum back. Don't we
Speaker 1: all want to take a nap when we hit nineteen percent?
Speaker 1: I feel that Raquel is setting the bar low from
Speaker 1: the first day at a new job and establishing her
Speaker 1: boundaries in this place of work. Lazy girl princes. I
Speaker 1: also don't mop when I'm tied, so I think we
Speaker 1: understand each other. She's also included a screenshot of Raquel
Speaker 1: and it says battery low charging every time. That is
Speaker 1: my new work response, Jesse, can you come into this meeting.
Speaker 1: I'm on nineteen per now I'm charging. What you just
Speaker 1: got here? Yeah, battery's low? Yep, Iron, it's the charger.
Speaker 1: I need to be upgraded. Can somebody fix my charger? Please? Oh?
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