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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy. This is MMA MIA's daily news podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Quickie. Meninga cockle disease has seen a notable increase

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Speaker 1: in reported cases across the country this year. While the

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Speaker 1: incidence of it is generally low in Australia, thanks in

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Speaker 1: part to widespread vaccination efforts, the recent uptick has health

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Speaker 1: authorities on high alert. Today we find out what it's

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Speaker 1: like to catch meninga cockle disease and deal with the

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Speaker 1: life changing aftermath as we try to slow it spread.

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Speaker 3: Within twelve hours of feeling flu like symptoms, I was

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Speaker 3: actually on life support with less than five percent chance

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Speaker 1: But first, here's the latest from the Quikie newsroom. Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: September twenty four. After warning residents in southern Lebanon to

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Speaker 1: leave if they live in or near homes where Hesbula operate,

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Speaker 1: Israel has unleashed intense air strikes, killing more than three

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty people. Lebanon's Health Ministry says the debts

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Speaker 1: include women, children and medics. Iran, accusing Israel of trying

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Speaker 1: to drag the entire Middle East into a full blown war.

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Speaker 1: President Masud Pezeshkian, who spoke to journalists outside the UN

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Speaker 1: General Assembly in New York, says they want to live

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Speaker 1: in peace and don't want war, saying it is Israel

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Speaker 1: that seeks to create this all out conflict. Pezeshkian was

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Speaker 1: asked if Iran would enter the conflict between hesblind Israel.

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Speaker 1: He said they would defend any group that's defending its

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Speaker 1: rights and itself. A National intervention trial is hoping to

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Speaker 1: stamp out the risk of boys perpetrating family violence in adulthood.

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Speaker 1: The federal government will hand over twenty three million dollars

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Speaker 1: in funding over the next three years to twelve organizations

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Speaker 1: across the States and territories tasked with creating an early

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Speaker 1: intervention program for young men and boys age twelve to

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Speaker 1: eighteen who've had adverse childhood experiences to help with counseling, mentoring,

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Speaker 1: and personalized safety plans to support them from turning to

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Speaker 1: family of violence. These programs will be culturally safe and

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Speaker 1: trauma informed so that each individual's needs can be met.

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Speaker 1: Social Services Minister Amanda Rischwerdt says the funding aims to

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Speaker 1: support boys and young men to recover from experiences of

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Speaker 1: violence before any similar behavior presents itself in their adult relationships.

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Speaker 1: The man who allegedly hit in Bush's with a rifle

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Speaker 1: waiting for Donald Trump at his Florida golf course in

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Speaker 1: an apparent assassination attempt, wrote a note months before the

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Speaker 1: incident offering a bounty on Trump's life. Ryan Routh was

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Speaker 1: arrested earlier this month after secret Service agent said they

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Speaker 1: and a friend were playing. An unidentified civilian has dropped

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Speaker 1: off a box that reportedly belonged to the fifty eight

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Speaker 1: year old that included ammunition, a metal pipe, four phones,

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Speaker 1: and a note that said, this is an assassination attempt

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to whomever can complete

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Speaker 1: the job. Rauth will appear in court on Monday local time,

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Speaker 1: enter a plea. Just days after the Netflix series Monsters

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Speaker 1: the real life pair were visited in prison by Kim Kardashian.

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Speaker 1: The reality star who's known for her work on prison reform,

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Speaker 1: That's what's going on in the world today. Next, Sarah

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Speaker 1: reveals what happened when what she did I thought was

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Speaker 1: She knows that if she'd made some other choices or

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Speaker 1: After that twelve hours, Sarah was placed into a coma,

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Speaker 3: Idea what had happened. The last symptom that occurred. I

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Speaker 2: In those eight days.

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Speaker 1: Sarah was vaccinated from me ninjakocle in high school, but

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Speaker 3: To be honest, it's been absolutely brutal. So I spent

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Speaker 3: fingers and toes amputated. I've had my gall blade as spleen,

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Speaker 2: It's just completely changed my life.

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Speaker 1: Sarah is sharing her story because as of this month,

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Speaker 1: more than eighty meninjaccal infections have been recorded across Australia

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Speaker 1: In WA, seven cases have been reported to date, with

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Speaker 1: six of those the SERA group b Sarah group, meaning

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Speaker 1: Local authorities point to overcrowded housing conditions as increasing the

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Speaker 1: biggest problem with mininjaccle is that it starts off looking

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Speaker 1: factor for invasive Minhinja cockle disease. The bacteria itself is

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Speaker 1: We're often told that it's babies who are most likely

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Speaker 4: They're picking up things, putting it in their mouths. And

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Speaker 1: It is less common, but it's not unheard of for

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Speaker 1: So what exactly causes the kickoff for me ninja cockle

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Speaker 4: It is a very rare disease that can be deadly

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Speaker 4: Thirty percent of people's noses, in the back of their throats,

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Speaker 4: but sometimes, very occasionally it can get into your body

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Speaker 4: There's six different strains, ACWY, B and X. ACWY and

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Speaker 4: So what we find is approximately one in ten people

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Speaker 4: be anything from loss of limbs, cerebral palsy, epilepsy, skin scarring,

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Speaker 4: but this goes on and on, loss of hearing, and

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Speaker 4: even more importantly, it's a psychological trauma that happens to

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Speaker 4: both the patients who gets meninja cockle and also the family.

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Speaker 1: There's currently a miniaticcocle outbreak in far North Queensland. How

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Speaker 1: do these outbreaks begin?

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Speaker 4: Usually what you find, for example, with the outbreak in

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Speaker 4: Okay, there's a number of different signs and you can

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Speaker 1: So what's the best way to protect ourselves and our

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Speaker 4: Vaccination is the best way to go to your best defense.

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Speaker 4: Other than that, it's remembering just keeping that little bit

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Speaker 4: Don't share drink bottles, good hygiene, don't share anything, not lipsticks, drink.

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Speaker 1: Health authorities across Australia are closely monitoring the situation and

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Speaker 1: implementing measures to control the spread of the disease now.

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Speaker 1: This includes providing clearance antibiotics to close contacts of confirmed

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Speaker 1: are also considering expanding their vaccination programs, and health officials

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Speaker 1: suspect meninja cockle disease. For Sarah, though she doesn't want

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Speaker 1: anyone to go through what she's faced, not when simple

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of bit vaccine hesitancy due to COVID

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Speaker 3: that meninger cockle isn't something that you can just flight

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Speaker 3: To me, it is concerning that people still don't see

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Speaker 1: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 1: us today. The quickie is produced by me Claire Murphy

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