1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,704 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from MoMA Mia. Welcome 4 00:00:26,744 --> 00:00:30,384 Speaker 2: to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick, 5 00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:33,024 Speaker 2: and today we are joined by a very special guest, 6 00:00:33,624 --> 00:00:35,744 Speaker 2: Tina Burke. Now, Tina burg I'm gonna let you say 7 00:00:35,944 --> 00:00:39,024 Speaker 2: your own title, because it has come to my attention 8 00:00:39,464 --> 00:00:41,504 Speaker 2: that you've been complaining around the office that every time 9 00:00:41,504 --> 00:00:43,984 Speaker 2: you come on this podcast, I introduce you with a 10 00:00:44,024 --> 00:00:46,464 Speaker 2: different title. So what would you like to be called today? 11 00:00:46,824 --> 00:00:49,184 Speaker 2: I'd like to quickly rebuff that because I have certainly 12 00:00:49,224 --> 00:00:52,544 Speaker 2: not been complaining. There was just a lot of multipod confusion. Yeah, 13 00:00:52,784 --> 00:00:56,224 Speaker 2: my title is pop Culture and Social Editor. Okay, love 14 00:00:56,304 --> 00:00:58,944 Speaker 2: that for you. Love You are my manager. We've confirmed 15 00:00:58,944 --> 00:01:01,304 Speaker 2: this on the podcast. Don't say my manager on here. 16 00:01:01,344 --> 00:01:02,944 Speaker 2: People just think I'm cool and young and I don't 17 00:01:02,944 --> 00:01:06,704 Speaker 2: have any responsibility. She's my inspiration for living. What can 18 00:01:06,744 --> 00:01:09,504 Speaker 2: I say about Laura Brodneck. So Teenery is here for 19 00:01:09,584 --> 00:01:11,624 Speaker 2: Weekend Watch, which is a good episode for you to 20 00:01:11,624 --> 00:01:13,424 Speaker 2: be on because it is one of our favorite the 21 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:15,624 Speaker 2: week because it is the episode where we talk about 22 00:01:15,864 --> 00:01:18,504 Speaker 2: the best new TV shows and movies that have been 23 00:01:18,544 --> 00:01:22,064 Speaker 2: released this week, except not in your case today, because 24 00:01:22,384 --> 00:01:24,584 Speaker 2: for this guest appearance, I asked you, what is the 25 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:26,464 Speaker 2: show that you've been obsessed with that you want to 26 00:01:26,464 --> 00:01:29,224 Speaker 2: tell the spillers about, and it is a show we 27 00:01:29,264 --> 00:01:31,984 Speaker 2: actually haven't talked about, so I gave special permission for 28 00:01:32,024 --> 00:01:34,184 Speaker 2: it to be on this week. Also given the fact 29 00:01:34,184 --> 00:01:37,224 Speaker 2: that your other timely recommendation was The Princess Bride, which 30 00:01:37,224 --> 00:01:39,744 Speaker 2: I do believe came out over thirty years ago. Yeah, 31 00:01:39,824 --> 00:01:42,544 Speaker 2: I really genuinely and very seriously turned to Laura the 32 00:01:42,544 --> 00:01:44,104 Speaker 2: other day and she was like, what are your plans? 33 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:46,104 Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm going to watch The Princess Bride? 34 00:01:46,344 --> 00:01:47,824 Speaker 2: And I think she thought I meant I would rewatch it, 35 00:01:47,864 --> 00:01:49,464 Speaker 2: and I was like, no, for the first time ever, which, 36 00:01:49,504 --> 00:01:52,064 Speaker 2: if you know anything about me, shot Corror, I love Whimsy. 37 00:01:52,104 --> 00:01:53,544 Speaker 2: How have I not seen this film? And what did 38 00:01:53,544 --> 00:01:55,984 Speaker 2: you think of it? I loved it so much? That 39 00:01:56,064 --> 00:01:57,664 Speaker 2: is the correct I have to say. The reason I 40 00:01:57,664 --> 00:01:59,704 Speaker 2: hadn't watched it as an adult was that I was 41 00:01:59,704 --> 00:02:02,184 Speaker 2: scared I wouldn't like it because it's very childish, right, 42 00:02:02,224 --> 00:02:05,024 Speaker 2: like it's very like fantastical and whimsy. Family moved, and 43 00:02:05,064 --> 00:02:07,264 Speaker 2: I was worried that if I watched it as an adult, 44 00:02:07,344 --> 00:02:09,064 Speaker 2: I wouldn't see how great it was. But I did 45 00:02:09,144 --> 00:02:10,984 Speaker 2: know big smiles all around. So I was like, Laura, 46 00:02:10,984 --> 00:02:12,304 Speaker 2: if you're going to make me do week and watch, 47 00:02:12,344 --> 00:02:14,624 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about the Princess Bride. The only 48 00:02:14,744 --> 00:02:17,704 Speaker 2: reason I vetoed that is your only response is because 49 00:02:17,704 --> 00:02:20,464 Speaker 2: we talk about the Princess Bride so much on this podcast, 50 00:02:20,944 --> 00:02:23,064 Speaker 2: even though it came out well over thirty years ago. 51 00:02:23,144 --> 00:02:25,624 Speaker 2: I was like, it's actually a timely recommendation for us. 52 00:02:25,864 --> 00:02:28,024 Speaker 2: And the spillers have all watched it. Where did you 53 00:02:28,024 --> 00:02:30,624 Speaker 2: watch it? If people have, I watched it on stand? Okay, yes, 54 00:02:30,664 --> 00:02:32,624 Speaker 2: So for the five people out there, for the people 55 00:02:32,624 --> 00:02:34,424 Speaker 2: who have not liked me, who were just like, oh 56 00:02:34,464 --> 00:02:35,824 Speaker 2: well I like it or not like I do all 57 00:02:35,824 --> 00:02:38,184 Speaker 2: the references I love carry always he's like so hot 58 00:02:38,224 --> 00:02:41,384 Speaker 2: and beautiful, love him dearly. And I was just scared. 59 00:02:41,704 --> 00:02:43,464 Speaker 2: But if you haven't seen it, I'm here to say, 60 00:02:43,744 --> 00:02:46,704 Speaker 2: check it out. The Princess Briane love a timely recommendation 61 00:02:47,904 --> 00:02:49,984 Speaker 2: about it. Okay, So what is the new TV show 62 00:02:50,024 --> 00:02:52,184 Speaker 2: that you are recommending for the people this week, So 63 00:02:52,424 --> 00:02:54,224 Speaker 2: I am breaking the rules. And I do know the 64 00:02:54,304 --> 00:02:57,024 Speaker 2: rules of a weekend watch and take them very seriously. However, 65 00:02:57,464 --> 00:03:00,104 Speaker 2: have a very controversial opinion, which is that I love 66 00:03:00,144 --> 00:03:02,264 Speaker 2: to binge watch. Don't bring that in, Jean here, I 67 00:03:02,344 --> 00:03:04,664 Speaker 2: apologize I do, and so it means that sometimes, like 68 00:03:04,704 --> 00:03:06,744 Speaker 2: I'll hold on to things. So I have just finished 69 00:03:06,784 --> 00:03:10,184 Speaker 2: season two of The Buccaneers on Apple TV, and it 70 00:03:10,224 --> 00:03:12,784 Speaker 2: is fantastic series, and I'm here to recommend it. And look, 71 00:03:12,824 --> 00:03:14,664 Speaker 2: I did say that was okay and make myself still 72 00:03:14,704 --> 00:03:19,184 Speaker 2: like a tyrant, like, well, if the shoe fits, if 73 00:03:19,224 --> 00:03:21,904 Speaker 2: the long pointed shoe fits, lace that up a run. 74 00:03:23,504 --> 00:03:24,944 Speaker 2: But as I said to you, I know there's a 75 00:03:24,984 --> 00:03:26,704 Speaker 2: lot of people out there who don't like to watch 76 00:03:26,744 --> 00:03:29,144 Speaker 2: things weekly as I recommend people do. A lot of 77 00:03:29,144 --> 00:03:31,784 Speaker 2: people like to save shows until they're finished. They can 78 00:03:31,784 --> 00:03:33,544 Speaker 2: sit down and watch it all in one go and 79 00:03:33,664 --> 00:03:35,424 Speaker 2: enjoy it, which is what you're thinking people can do 80 00:03:35,464 --> 00:03:38,344 Speaker 2: with The Buccaneers. Yes, so, if you don't know, it 81 00:03:38,424 --> 00:03:40,984 Speaker 2: is based on a novel by Edith Wharton. The novel 82 00:03:41,064 --> 00:03:44,024 Speaker 2: was actually never finished, so it ended up getting finished 83 00:03:44,104 --> 00:03:46,824 Speaker 2: kind of by the outline that she had planned out. 84 00:03:47,224 --> 00:03:48,984 Speaker 2: So if you do know anything about it, there was 85 00:03:49,024 --> 00:03:52,504 Speaker 2: a nineteen ninety five mini series. I did not know that, Yes, 86 00:03:52,544 --> 00:03:55,264 Speaker 2: and it had like like mini Severira was in it. 87 00:03:55,264 --> 00:03:56,264 Speaker 2: There was a pod cast in it. 88 00:03:56,344 --> 00:03:56,544 Speaker 3: Yeah. 89 00:03:56,584 --> 00:03:59,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good. It's very fun, very mini series, 90 00:03:59,384 --> 00:04:01,304 Speaker 2: very like true to I guess the era. Whereas what 91 00:04:01,344 --> 00:04:03,424 Speaker 2: Apple TV did in twenty twenty three was they brought 92 00:04:03,464 --> 00:04:07,064 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers back with like a very of the moment adaptation, 93 00:04:07,144 --> 00:04:09,624 Speaker 2: which means, you know, instead of like classic music, that's 94 00:04:09,624 --> 00:04:13,624 Speaker 2: pop music, outfits that are not time appropriate, silliness all away. 95 00:04:13,624 --> 00:04:15,144 Speaker 2: But I see a lot of face glitter in I 96 00:04:15,184 --> 00:04:16,744 Speaker 2: haven't watch this show, by the way, but I see 97 00:04:16,784 --> 00:04:18,144 Speaker 2: a lot of face glitter. I see a lot of 98 00:04:18,184 --> 00:04:21,024 Speaker 2: hair adornments. I see a lot of sexy outfits, a 99 00:04:21,024 --> 00:04:23,624 Speaker 2: lot of sexy outfits, like in one episode in season two, 100 00:04:23,704 --> 00:04:26,384 Speaker 2: she weren't off the shoulder red gown. You know what, 101 00:04:26,744 --> 00:04:28,824 Speaker 2: You watch this and it's just like you're just living 102 00:04:28,824 --> 00:04:30,784 Speaker 2: in a fantasy, and that's that's exactly what I want 103 00:04:30,824 --> 00:04:32,464 Speaker 2: from a TV show at the moment. So I love that. 104 00:04:32,504 --> 00:04:34,464 Speaker 2: And I kind of think if you're interperior dramas and 105 00:04:34,504 --> 00:04:36,784 Speaker 2: you watch it simultaneously with the Gilded Age, because they 106 00:04:36,784 --> 00:04:39,504 Speaker 2: were both dropping around the same time, like one's real 107 00:04:39,744 --> 00:04:43,144 Speaker 2: one's not. And that's okay, that's exactly historical accuracy. Be damned. 108 00:04:43,184 --> 00:04:45,064 Speaker 2: I want it off the shoulder gown. I want to 109 00:04:45,064 --> 00:04:46,704 Speaker 2: play a shoulder gown and I want yeah, I want 110 00:04:46,744 --> 00:04:49,264 Speaker 2: the girls to be wearing sparkly eyeshadow, face glitter and 111 00:04:49,264 --> 00:04:51,704 Speaker 2: sometimes even hair glitter, and sometimes maybe Chapel Roone should 112 00:04:51,704 --> 00:04:55,104 Speaker 2: play Yeah, yes, exactly. I think the women would have 113 00:04:55,104 --> 00:04:56,784 Speaker 2: love Chapel Rome going out on the limb to say that, 114 00:04:56,824 --> 00:04:58,784 Speaker 2: I think they would have. So, if you're not familiar 115 00:04:58,824 --> 00:05:00,744 Speaker 2: with the show, what it is is about a bunch 116 00:05:00,784 --> 00:05:03,704 Speaker 2: of American women who go over to the UK to 117 00:05:03,824 --> 00:05:05,904 Speaker 2: find husbands when one of their friends has fallen in 118 00:05:05,944 --> 00:05:08,104 Speaker 2: love with, you know, a fancy British man. So they're 119 00:05:08,144 --> 00:05:09,784 Speaker 2: sort of American women who are part of like that 120 00:05:09,904 --> 00:05:12,904 Speaker 2: nouveau class like so everyone in Britain looks down on 121 00:05:12,944 --> 00:05:15,384 Speaker 2: them because they're American and their crass and they're new money, 122 00:05:15,424 --> 00:05:17,624 Speaker 2: but they actually have money. A lot of these British 123 00:05:17,704 --> 00:05:20,064 Speaker 2: like people with titles do not have money. Yes, So 124 00:05:20,104 --> 00:05:22,024 Speaker 2: it's a very like there's a lot of exploration of 125 00:05:22,104 --> 00:05:24,624 Speaker 2: class in society, but it is about the girls coming 126 00:05:24,664 --> 00:05:27,384 Speaker 2: over to try to also enter society and find husbands, 127 00:05:27,424 --> 00:05:30,704 Speaker 2: and what ensues is a lot of chaos. So there 128 00:05:30,784 --> 00:05:32,984 Speaker 2: is a love triangle, which we love. We love to 129 00:05:32,984 --> 00:05:35,744 Speaker 2: see a love triangle. There's a love triangle between the 130 00:05:35,784 --> 00:05:38,424 Speaker 2: main character, Nan and her two love interests, the owned 131 00:05:38,424 --> 00:05:40,664 Speaker 2: guy that's the center of the story, but all of 132 00:05:40,664 --> 00:05:43,664 Speaker 2: the friends have their own sort of emotional arcs. There 133 00:05:43,704 --> 00:05:45,784 Speaker 2: are some quite serious themes, so at times it does 134 00:05:45,824 --> 00:05:49,744 Speaker 2: go into assault, manipulation. There are some marriages that have 135 00:05:49,824 --> 00:05:52,904 Speaker 2: domestic violence. There are other marriages that are you know, 136 00:05:52,944 --> 00:05:57,384 Speaker 2: marriages of convenience. There is a lesbian plot, which very 137 00:05:57,384 --> 00:06:00,344 Speaker 2: exciting for you know, a period drama to feature. That 138 00:06:00,464 --> 00:06:02,304 Speaker 2: is what is making me want to watch the show 139 00:06:02,384 --> 00:06:05,864 Speaker 2: because there's a transactress who is on has been a 140 00:06:05,904 --> 00:06:09,384 Speaker 2: few TV shows I choose right, Yeah, fantastic, and her 141 00:06:09,624 --> 00:06:12,064 Speaker 2: romantic interest is actually Kate Winslet's staughter Off Yeah, I 142 00:06:12,104 --> 00:06:14,584 Speaker 2: saw that to me is fantastic, and like she's so 143 00:06:14,664 --> 00:06:16,184 Speaker 2: much like her mother. So there's all of these great 144 00:06:16,224 --> 00:06:19,544 Speaker 2: bits like where you just notice Kate Winslet's mannerisms coming through. 145 00:06:19,944 --> 00:06:22,224 Speaker 2: But it's very much just about like the romantic market 146 00:06:22,264 --> 00:06:23,904 Speaker 2: and being a woman in this time, but kind of 147 00:06:23,944 --> 00:06:25,544 Speaker 2: set in a modern way. There's not a lot that 148 00:06:25,584 --> 00:06:27,424 Speaker 2: I can say about season two for you guys right now, 149 00:06:27,464 --> 00:06:29,704 Speaker 2: because if you haven't seen season one, it would just 150 00:06:29,704 --> 00:06:32,144 Speaker 2: spoil everything for you. I will say season one was 151 00:06:32,184 --> 00:06:34,424 Speaker 2: it came out in twenty twenty three. Season two has 152 00:06:34,424 --> 00:06:36,304 Speaker 2: come out in twenty twenty five, and they do feel 153 00:06:36,344 --> 00:06:40,664 Speaker 2: like tonally different shows a little bit, right, Like. I 154 00:06:40,704 --> 00:06:43,744 Speaker 2: loved Season two still, but it did feel at times 155 00:06:43,784 --> 00:06:46,624 Speaker 2: like you were like, what's going on? Right? Okay? So 156 00:06:46,664 --> 00:06:48,624 Speaker 2: I will just say that twenty spillers who haven't seen it, 157 00:06:48,704 --> 00:06:51,504 Speaker 2: season one feels much more intentional and complete in season two. 158 00:06:51,544 --> 00:06:53,664 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they were worried about cancelation or 159 00:06:53,704 --> 00:06:56,024 Speaker 2: if they just wanted to really speed things along, But 160 00:06:56,064 --> 00:06:57,864 Speaker 2: there was so much packed into season two that at 161 00:06:57,864 --> 00:07:00,024 Speaker 2: times it felt a little bit like in an old 162 00:07:00,024 --> 00:07:01,984 Speaker 2: school world where we knew we were getting ten seasons, 163 00:07:02,024 --> 00:07:04,664 Speaker 2: these plots would have taken place over like years, and 164 00:07:04,744 --> 00:07:08,104 Speaker 2: instead we've shoved every plot you could into season two. 165 00:07:08,224 --> 00:07:09,904 Speaker 2: But I think if you go in knowing, it's just 166 00:07:09,904 --> 00:07:12,144 Speaker 2: like a light had a bit of fun bit of sexiness. 167 00:07:12,424 --> 00:07:14,184 Speaker 2: You'll have a good time. Okay. All right, Well you've 168 00:07:14,184 --> 00:07:16,464 Speaker 2: saw me on watching it Apple TV, right, Apple TV 169 00:07:16,704 --> 00:07:19,864 Speaker 2: check it out? Okay, Well, I have stuck to the 170 00:07:19,944 --> 00:07:22,984 Speaker 2: rules this week making myself sound so fun. I saw 171 00:07:23,024 --> 00:07:25,544 Speaker 2: im fun at parties. Just I love you a lot, 172 00:07:25,824 --> 00:07:30,224 Speaker 2: Thank you, you like you're my boss, and I like 173 00:07:30,264 --> 00:07:32,344 Speaker 2: you a lot. I made you so just and a 174 00:07:32,424 --> 00:07:34,984 Speaker 2: nice person. Hey, let's just talk about me for the 175 00:07:35,024 --> 00:07:37,704 Speaker 2: rest of the ging, not about any TV shows. Okay, 176 00:07:37,704 --> 00:07:40,264 Speaker 2: We'll going from that to a show about some very 177 00:07:40,304 --> 00:07:42,984 Speaker 2: serious topics. So a new drama that has just dropped 178 00:07:43,024 --> 00:07:45,584 Speaker 2: on Disney Plus this week. It's called The Twisted Tale 179 00:07:45,664 --> 00:07:48,424 Speaker 2: of Amanda Knox. I'm sure many people know the story 180 00:07:48,464 --> 00:07:51,544 Speaker 2: of Amanda Knox, who is an American student who went 181 00:07:51,584 --> 00:07:54,904 Speaker 2: over to study in Italy and was then tried for 182 00:07:55,224 --> 00:07:58,144 Speaker 2: the murder of her roommate, Meredith Kirscher. There's been so 183 00:07:58,264 --> 00:08:01,264 Speaker 2: much coverage around this since the event happened many many 184 00:08:01,304 --> 00:08:04,424 Speaker 2: years ago. There's been books written about it, there's been documentaries, 185 00:08:04,464 --> 00:08:08,184 Speaker 2: there's been podcasts. Amandannox herself has been speaking about it 186 00:08:08,224 --> 00:08:10,424 Speaker 2: for years and what it was like coming back to 187 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:12,664 Speaker 2: the US and rebuilding her life and everything she's been 188 00:08:12,664 --> 00:08:13,384 Speaker 2: through since then. 189 00:08:14,464 --> 00:08:18,984 Speaker 1: Don't move, don't make a sound, Amanda. 190 00:08:19,584 --> 00:08:23,824 Speaker 2: I don't like this. She just turned back. Why would 191 00:08:23,864 --> 00:08:26,544 Speaker 2: I return to a country where I was convicted of murder? 192 00:08:28,144 --> 00:08:32,384 Speaker 1: Because in order to move forward, I need to go back. 193 00:08:34,664 --> 00:08:37,544 Speaker 2: In two thousand and seven, I was halfway around the world, 194 00:08:37,624 --> 00:08:43,104 Speaker 2: studying abroad in Italy. I had no idea that my dream, Hello, 195 00:08:43,704 --> 00:08:49,624 Speaker 2: anybody home was about to become a nightmare. Meredith, Oh 196 00:08:49,704 --> 00:08:54,464 Speaker 2: my god, there's a body. It's Meredith. 197 00:08:54,784 --> 00:08:56,944 Speaker 3: Where did you go the night of merediths murder? 198 00:08:56,984 --> 00:08:59,344 Speaker 1: Do I need a lawyer right now? 199 00:08:59,584 --> 00:08:59,944 Speaker 3: Please? 200 00:09:00,984 --> 00:09:03,384 Speaker 2: So this is a dramatization of her story, and it 201 00:09:03,424 --> 00:09:06,584 Speaker 2: stars Grace Van Patten as Amanda and Oxen kind of 202 00:09:06,624 --> 00:09:10,264 Speaker 2: takes you through from the events when the death occurs, 203 00:09:10,464 --> 00:09:13,664 Speaker 2: through the trial, through like the public scrutiny of it. 204 00:09:13,664 --> 00:09:16,664 Speaker 2: It is a really interesting dramatization, especially if anyone who's 205 00:09:16,664 --> 00:09:19,344 Speaker 2: not across the case and the story watching it, like 206 00:09:19,384 --> 00:09:21,464 Speaker 2: it's kind of a good entry point into the story. 207 00:09:21,744 --> 00:09:24,184 Speaker 2: I will just say that, Like, there's always been a 208 00:09:24,184 --> 00:09:26,824 Speaker 2: lot of back and forth around Amanda Knox and like 209 00:09:27,144 --> 00:09:29,704 Speaker 2: around how she behaved at the time. Some people thought 210 00:09:29,704 --> 00:09:32,504 Speaker 2: she wasn't acting appropriately and some people thought that she 211 00:09:32,624 --> 00:09:34,624 Speaker 2: was guilty, and there's all these questions around it. So 212 00:09:34,664 --> 00:09:36,664 Speaker 2: I will just say that Amanda Knox is very heavily 213 00:09:36,664 --> 00:09:40,424 Speaker 2: involved in this series. She is an executive producer. All 214 00:09:40,464 --> 00:09:42,904 Speaker 2: the photos of like Grace Van Patten on the Red Carpet, 215 00:09:42,904 --> 00:09:45,464 Speaker 2: she's with Amanda Knox. So you've just got to watch 216 00:09:45,464 --> 00:09:47,624 Speaker 2: it from the point of view that yes, it's a dramatization, 217 00:09:47,744 --> 00:09:51,144 Speaker 2: but it is being told from Amanda Knox's perspective, with 218 00:09:51,264 --> 00:09:53,544 Speaker 2: her input and with her kind of shaping the story. 219 00:09:53,904 --> 00:09:55,184 Speaker 2: So if you just have that in mind, it's an 220 00:09:55,224 --> 00:09:57,864 Speaker 2: interesting watch. So the first two episodes have dropped now 221 00:09:57,904 --> 00:10:00,424 Speaker 2: on Disney Plus and then new episodes will drop weekly. 222 00:10:00,624 --> 00:10:02,824 Speaker 2: So if you kind of love a bit of true 223 00:10:02,864 --> 00:10:05,824 Speaker 2: crime with a bit of dramatization around it, and if 224 00:10:05,864 --> 00:10:09,384 Speaker 2: you ask someone who's into true crime through an entertainment lens, 225 00:10:09,464 --> 00:10:11,984 Speaker 2: we do have a little special something around the show 226 00:10:12,024 --> 00:10:14,184 Speaker 2: coming up when it ends. Won't say anything more about 227 00:10:14,224 --> 00:10:16,864 Speaker 2: that now, but yes, the Twister Tail of Amanda Knox 228 00:10:16,904 --> 00:10:21,224 Speaker 2: on Disney Plus now. So our other recommendation for this 229 00:10:21,304 --> 00:10:23,904 Speaker 2: week is a movie that we have been talking about 230 00:10:23,944 --> 00:10:26,704 Speaker 2: for months we've been talking about the stars. It's kind 231 00:10:26,704 --> 00:10:28,664 Speaker 2: of set to be the biggest comedy of the year. 232 00:10:29,224 --> 00:10:30,864 Speaker 2: Now I haven't seen it, and you haven't seen it. 233 00:10:31,424 --> 00:10:33,224 Speaker 2: That's a bit of a miss on our part. That's 234 00:10:33,224 --> 00:10:34,864 Speaker 2: a really upsetting miss on our part. I was so 235 00:10:34,904 --> 00:10:36,704 Speaker 2: excited to see it and I will be front seat 236 00:10:36,744 --> 00:10:39,584 Speaker 2: in the center. Actually that's my back seat in the cinema. Yeah, 237 00:10:39,584 --> 00:10:41,544 Speaker 2: I'm not front seats. Sorry, what did you walk in late? 238 00:10:41,584 --> 00:10:44,384 Speaker 2: Couldn't find a seat? That's terrible. Just but also make 239 00:10:44,384 --> 00:10:46,504 Speaker 2: sure to go front seat and imax. No, so we 240 00:10:46,584 --> 00:10:49,744 Speaker 2: haven't seen it, but the executive producer of The Spill, Manisha, 241 00:10:50,104 --> 00:10:52,344 Speaker 2: has seen it. She went to the premiere. She had 242 00:10:52,344 --> 00:10:54,984 Speaker 2: a fun time, and she's here to give us her 243 00:10:55,104 --> 00:10:57,424 Speaker 2: honest review. Mania I am. 244 00:10:57,544 --> 00:10:59,144 Speaker 1: I did go to the premiere. I did have a 245 00:10:59,144 --> 00:10:59,544 Speaker 1: fun time. 246 00:10:59,584 --> 00:11:01,584 Speaker 2: There were hot dogs, But I love it was your 247 00:11:01,584 --> 00:11:04,784 Speaker 2: main takeaway from that event. That's important. That's nice, so important. 248 00:11:04,824 --> 00:11:06,104 Speaker 2: They can make or break a premiere the. 249 00:11:06,344 --> 00:11:09,984 Speaker 3: Hot dogs where you could control the sauce aday you know, 250 00:11:10,344 --> 00:11:11,504 Speaker 3: stage cinema snacking. 251 00:11:11,544 --> 00:11:13,104 Speaker 2: I love that. That is so good. As I said, I 252 00:11:13,144 --> 00:11:14,784 Speaker 2: did want you to write a whole review or just 253 00:11:14,824 --> 00:11:16,784 Speaker 2: do a whole review on this podcast that's just about 254 00:11:16,784 --> 00:11:18,584 Speaker 2: the hot dogs. And at the end you say, well, 255 00:11:18,624 --> 00:11:20,424 Speaker 2: the naked guns out now, which we can still do 256 00:11:20,464 --> 00:11:24,024 Speaker 2: if you want, but we might circle back to it. 257 00:11:24,184 --> 00:11:27,344 Speaker 2: Go back. Once you kill a man for revenge, there's 258 00:11:27,384 --> 00:11:31,784 Speaker 2: not going back. A voice in your head saying over 259 00:11:31,904 --> 00:11:35,664 Speaker 2: and over that was awesome. 260 00:11:38,104 --> 00:11:39,384 Speaker 1: Who are you, Dreven? 261 00:11:40,024 --> 00:11:41,464 Speaker 2: Detective Frank Treven? 262 00:11:42,664 --> 00:11:47,064 Speaker 3: Thanks at least one has always been the elite of 263 00:11:47,104 --> 00:11:51,304 Speaker 3: the elite, and you, Frank, are the best of the best. 264 00:11:53,744 --> 00:11:55,944 Speaker 2: I need this woman immediately. There are the lad mayor 265 00:11:56,064 --> 00:11:57,104 Speaker 2: please Christmas. 266 00:12:00,184 --> 00:12:01,064 Speaker 1: Over here, Lieutenant. 267 00:12:01,304 --> 00:12:04,504 Speaker 2: I think someone murdered my brother. I'll find them. This 268 00:12:04,664 --> 00:12:05,184 Speaker 2: is what I do. 269 00:12:05,504 --> 00:12:09,184 Speaker 1: So as you serve twenty years for man's laughter. You 270 00:12:09,264 --> 00:12:11,504 Speaker 1: mean manslaughter must have been quite a joke. 271 00:12:12,184 --> 00:12:13,264 Speaker 2: Do this by the book? 272 00:12:15,024 --> 00:12:15,464 Speaker 3: Why? 273 00:12:15,584 --> 00:12:16,664 Speaker 2: Who's going to arrest me? 274 00:12:18,624 --> 00:12:19,344 Speaker 1: Other cops? 275 00:12:19,584 --> 00:12:19,784 Speaker 2: Yes? 276 00:12:20,064 --> 00:12:22,144 Speaker 1: Is she serious? Is he serious? 277 00:12:22,264 --> 00:12:22,304 Speaker 2: No? 278 00:12:23,824 --> 00:12:27,024 Speaker 3: So naked Gun I will admit I haven't seen the 279 00:12:27,064 --> 00:12:30,664 Speaker 3: previous naked gun movies, potentially a big gap in my 280 00:12:31,184 --> 00:12:33,544 Speaker 3: culture knowledge. I have been told of people going, but 281 00:12:33,944 --> 00:12:36,144 Speaker 3: I did go with people who have seen it and 282 00:12:36,184 --> 00:12:38,064 Speaker 3: people who haven't seen it, and I feel like we 283 00:12:38,104 --> 00:12:39,824 Speaker 3: all equally had a good time, so I wouldn't say 284 00:12:39,864 --> 00:12:40,944 Speaker 3: you have to see them. 285 00:12:41,264 --> 00:12:42,864 Speaker 1: They're calling it a legacy. 286 00:12:42,464 --> 00:12:44,784 Speaker 3: Sequel, so it's not like a remake, but it does 287 00:12:44,824 --> 00:12:47,344 Speaker 3: follow on the story and he's the son of the 288 00:12:47,384 --> 00:12:51,704 Speaker 3: original Frank Drebin And yeah, Liam Neeson Pammy Anderson. I 289 00:12:51,744 --> 00:12:53,744 Speaker 3: was very excited because of all the Red Carpet bars 290 00:12:53,744 --> 00:12:54,584 Speaker 3: that we've been covering. 291 00:12:54,824 --> 00:12:57,464 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because people think that they are dating right 292 00:12:57,504 --> 00:12:59,904 Speaker 2: after all, but pray that they are. It's so we're 293 00:12:59,984 --> 00:13:02,544 Speaker 2: not sure they Yeah, they haven't said they're dating, but 294 00:13:02,544 --> 00:13:04,984 Speaker 2: they haven't said they're not dating. And they've been noodling 295 00:13:05,064 --> 00:13:06,984 Speaker 2: is the only word for it on Red Carpet But 296 00:13:07,024 --> 00:13:09,784 Speaker 2: that's so in keeping with like the vibe of Naked 297 00:13:09,824 --> 00:13:13,624 Speaker 2: Gun too. Yeah, what did you think watching them that 298 00:13:13,624 --> 00:13:16,304 Speaker 2: they're together? Did you get the vibe from screen give us. 299 00:13:16,544 --> 00:13:20,384 Speaker 1: Something going on? Like there's really great chemistry. I also 300 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:22,264 Speaker 1: feel like they're fueling the rumors. 301 00:13:22,264 --> 00:13:24,064 Speaker 3: But then also when people tell them about it, they're like, 302 00:13:24,144 --> 00:13:25,024 Speaker 3: I'm so disappointed. 303 00:13:25,144 --> 00:13:27,544 Speaker 2: I love when we keep rumors going on this podcast 304 00:13:27,664 --> 00:13:29,544 Speaker 2: or start them. So that's great exactly. 305 00:13:29,624 --> 00:13:32,464 Speaker 3: I actually maybe because of coming off all that Red 306 00:13:32,504 --> 00:13:35,064 Speaker 3: Carpet bars, I thought it needed more Pammy Anderson. 307 00:13:35,184 --> 00:13:37,304 Speaker 1: I think this movie needed more. The moment she was 308 00:13:37,304 --> 00:13:38,064 Speaker 1: in were great. 309 00:13:38,104 --> 00:13:41,344 Speaker 3: Obviously, that love interest role was played by Priscilla Presley 310 00:13:41,384 --> 00:13:42,504 Speaker 3: in the original trilogy. 311 00:13:42,864 --> 00:13:44,064 Speaker 1: I thought she was great in it. 312 00:13:44,144 --> 00:13:46,064 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. I don't want to spoil too much. 313 00:13:46,104 --> 00:13:49,864 Speaker 3: There's a great singing bit that she's in. Yeah, she 314 00:13:49,984 --> 00:13:52,064 Speaker 3: really captured that kind of like old world style, but 315 00:13:52,064 --> 00:13:53,104 Speaker 3: then it was also contemporary. 316 00:13:53,144 --> 00:13:54,424 Speaker 1: So I really enjoyed her in it. But I think 317 00:13:54,424 --> 00:13:55,544 Speaker 1: she needed to be in it more. 318 00:13:55,944 --> 00:13:57,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if they're like, because she's coming off 319 00:13:57,984 --> 00:14:00,144 Speaker 2: this buzz of like she's come back as now like 320 00:14:00,184 --> 00:14:02,064 Speaker 2: a proper actress, because for a long time she was 321 00:14:02,144 --> 00:14:03,984 Speaker 2: just seen as a pinup girl and a sex symbol. 322 00:14:04,224 --> 00:14:06,384 Speaker 2: She didn't get any work for many many years. And 323 00:14:06,424 --> 00:14:09,504 Speaker 2: then with the Last show Girl, which she probably should 324 00:14:09,504 --> 00:14:11,944 Speaker 2: have got an Oscar nomine four after watching that movie 325 00:14:12,104 --> 00:14:14,064 Speaker 2: was my thought on that. But she was seen for 326 00:14:14,104 --> 00:14:17,184 Speaker 2: the first time as a proper, critically acclaimed actress. And 327 00:14:17,224 --> 00:14:19,584 Speaker 2: then she's come into this like leading comedy role, which 328 00:14:19,624 --> 00:14:21,904 Speaker 2: is a really good like jumping point. It's like she 329 00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:23,984 Speaker 2: can now do comedy, she can do drama, she can 330 00:14:24,024 --> 00:14:24,544 Speaker 2: do everything. 331 00:14:24,904 --> 00:14:27,144 Speaker 3: Love that for her, and I think speaking of that, 332 00:14:27,184 --> 00:14:29,344 Speaker 3: it was so great seeing Liam Neeson in a comedy 333 00:14:29,424 --> 00:14:32,104 Speaker 3: role because I've seen him in so many serious things. 334 00:14:32,384 --> 00:14:35,224 Speaker 3: The comedy in this is so slapstick. It's so like 335 00:14:35,624 --> 00:14:38,424 Speaker 3: it's like a dad joke wrapped up into some movie 336 00:14:38,864 --> 00:14:42,344 Speaker 3: or it's an absurdist play that's it's like banana peel 337 00:14:42,504 --> 00:14:44,064 Speaker 3: humor physical comedy. 338 00:14:44,344 --> 00:14:46,464 Speaker 1: And it's so funny seeing him in a role like that. 339 00:14:46,664 --> 00:14:48,984 Speaker 3: But I will say the silly goose factor is high, 340 00:14:49,304 --> 00:14:51,144 Speaker 3: Like you gotta be in a silly mood. 341 00:14:51,184 --> 00:14:52,824 Speaker 1: You've got to go with your silly friends. 342 00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:54,944 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've got to be not like, oh, let 343 00:14:54,984 --> 00:14:56,224 Speaker 3: me follow this splot, You've got to like I'm going 344 00:14:56,264 --> 00:14:57,464 Speaker 3: to associate into this observer. 345 00:14:57,704 --> 00:15:00,824 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love when Lee does comedy because he does 346 00:15:00,864 --> 00:15:02,464 Speaker 2: it like often, like when he's like in the Ted 347 00:15:02,504 --> 00:15:04,784 Speaker 2: movies or something like that, where he plays that stern 348 00:15:04,864 --> 00:15:07,384 Speaker 2: character we know from Taken, But as a comedy role, yeah, 349 00:15:07,384 --> 00:15:10,624 Speaker 2: Like Dairy Girls is one of my favorite because like, yeah, again, 350 00:15:10,664 --> 00:15:12,824 Speaker 2: he was playing someone super super serious in the most 351 00:15:12,904 --> 00:15:15,064 Speaker 2: ridiculous environment, and that's when I think he's a bit 352 00:15:15,104 --> 00:15:15,344 Speaker 2: of fun. 353 00:15:15,424 --> 00:15:16,064 Speaker 1: You love that guy. 354 00:15:16,184 --> 00:15:18,664 Speaker 2: He's a funny guy. So for people who don't know anything, 355 00:15:18,744 --> 00:15:20,744 Speaker 2: what is the naked gun? What is the plot? In 356 00:15:20,784 --> 00:15:22,384 Speaker 2: like one or two sentences. 357 00:15:22,424 --> 00:15:26,304 Speaker 3: It's potentially the hardest plot ever summarized, like, that's. 358 00:15:26,464 --> 00:15:27,864 Speaker 2: The worst thing you could ask. Thank you. 359 00:15:28,304 --> 00:15:30,024 Speaker 1: I was a bit stress about you asking that, but 360 00:15:30,904 --> 00:15:32,424 Speaker 1: I didn't know generally enough. 361 00:15:32,424 --> 00:15:35,864 Speaker 3: There's this device called the like plot device, so plot 362 00:15:35,904 --> 00:15:40,104 Speaker 3: device that goes missing, and basically there's a suspicious death 363 00:15:40,144 --> 00:15:42,824 Speaker 3: of an engineer and they're trying to piece it all together, 364 00:15:43,224 --> 00:15:47,584 Speaker 3: and the sister of the engineer, Pammy Anderson, she gets involved. 365 00:15:47,624 --> 00:15:49,184 Speaker 3: She obviously wants to get to the bottom of it, 366 00:15:49,264 --> 00:15:51,744 Speaker 3: so she comes on this journey with them. And one 367 00:15:51,744 --> 00:15:53,944 Speaker 3: thing that I will say stood out to me because 368 00:15:53,984 --> 00:15:56,664 Speaker 3: I know a little bit about the previous movies, even 369 00:15:56,744 --> 00:15:57,984 Speaker 3: not having seen them, but. 370 00:15:58,024 --> 00:15:59,704 Speaker 1: This one, I feel like is for the girls. 371 00:15:59,904 --> 00:16:04,224 Speaker 3: There's really interesting female centric pop culture references throughout, which 372 00:16:04,264 --> 00:16:06,904 Speaker 3: I don't believe played a big role in the previous ones. 373 00:16:06,904 --> 00:16:08,104 Speaker 1: I think they were a bit more matcho. 374 00:16:08,544 --> 00:16:10,344 Speaker 3: So I don't want to spoil the references because I 375 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:12,624 Speaker 3: think that's half the delight of seeing the movie, But 376 00:16:12,944 --> 00:16:14,144 Speaker 3: some of them you would really enjoy. 377 00:16:14,224 --> 00:16:16,264 Speaker 1: Laura and I think you would Okay, so you guys. 378 00:16:16,384 --> 00:16:18,304 Speaker 2: I know you woke, so okay, I love that. So 379 00:16:18,344 --> 00:16:20,464 Speaker 2: the naked gune in cinemas now don't sit in the 380 00:16:20,464 --> 00:16:21,824 Speaker 2: front row. But apart from that, go. 381 00:16:22,064 --> 00:16:23,864 Speaker 1: Get a hot dog, but get a hot dot hot dog. 382 00:16:24,224 --> 00:16:25,664 Speaker 2: Oh you did bring it back to the hot dog. 383 00:16:25,744 --> 00:16:28,104 Speaker 1: Love that circled back. Get your hot dog, get front row. 384 00:16:28,184 --> 00:16:30,224 Speaker 1: It came out yesterday, so yeah. 385 00:16:30,264 --> 00:16:32,504 Speaker 2: Recommend Oh I can't wait to watch that. Well, thank 386 00:16:32,544 --> 00:16:34,664 Speaker 2: you so much for listening to the spill today and 387 00:16:34,704 --> 00:16:36,744 Speaker 2: this week you can get twenty percent off a Mama 388 00:16:36,784 --> 00:16:39,864 Speaker 2: Mere subscription and Mama Mea will match that twenty percent 389 00:16:39,944 --> 00:16:43,024 Speaker 2: and donate it to Rise Up, a charity supporting women 390 00:16:43,064 --> 00:16:46,304 Speaker 2: and families affected by domestic violence. And thank you so 391 00:16:46,424 --> 00:16:49,824 Speaker 2: much to Tina, Entertainment editor and pop culture. Yeah no, no, 392 00:16:49,904 --> 00:16:52,424 Speaker 2: not at all, but I like it's my favorite thing. 393 00:16:52,464 --> 00:16:54,344 Speaker 2: Is like we change it every time and we have fun. 394 00:16:54,424 --> 00:16:56,464 Speaker 2: So will you be next week? I meant to say 395 00:16:56,584 --> 00:16:59,784 Speaker 2: social media and entertainment. It also like it all means 396 00:16:59,824 --> 00:17:02,304 Speaker 2: the same thing. I'm cool with it. I've just been informed. 397 00:17:02,504 --> 00:17:05,944 Speaker 2: Clean that up. Anyway, Thank you for joining us, and 398 00:17:05,984 --> 00:17:08,184 Speaker 2: you'll also be back this afternoon for a little special 399 00:17:08,184 --> 00:17:11,104 Speaker 2: something we're doing on this spill, So sorry say still, 400 00:17:11,184 --> 00:17:13,664 Speaker 2: don't say that and stay tuned. Also, don't forget to 401 00:17:13,704 --> 00:17:16,544 Speaker 2: follow the Spill on Instagram and TikTok. 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