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Speaker 1: My Therapy, the Love.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Your Beauty the podcast In Your Face.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Emilie Campbell, I'm Killer mccharen.

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Speaker 4: Now, before we get into your beauty dilemmas, let's hear

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Speaker 4: from the gals in what's new with the Beauty Edit.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Beauty Edit. I'm Cass MoMA me

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Speaker 2: is morning editor.

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Speaker 5: And I'm Taylor Strato, host of Mama MIA's news podcast,

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Speaker 5: The Quickie Cast. Thank you for having me back again

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Speaker 5: this week. Let us not waste any more time. Tell

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Speaker 5: me and the ubis what's making beauty news?

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Speaker 2: Well, Taylor, I think you'll be excited by this one.

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Speaker 2: The Queen of pop, Dua Leaper has launched an entry

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Speaker 2: level skin hairline with none other than the least entry

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Speaker 2: level brand ever, augustin as Beta. It's gonna be called

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Speaker 2: Dua by ab Science, and she's calling it collaboration with

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Speaker 2: the best of the best. Taylor, are you familiar with

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Speaker 2: Augustin Espata I am.

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Speaker 5: And when you say entry level, Augustinas Beta is not

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Speaker 5: the brand that comes to mind for me, so I'm

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Speaker 5: very curious to know how this is going to play

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Speaker 5: out exactly.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's super interesting.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be only launching three products, so that's

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Speaker 2: a cleanser, a glow complex, and a renewal cream, and

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Speaker 2: they're going to retail between around forty dollars and eighty

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Speaker 2: five dollars aud. So it's a dramatically lowered price point

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Speaker 2: to what we're seeing from the core creams from this brand,

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Speaker 2: which usually are around two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm all for letting people play in a luxury

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Speaker 5: beauty space without a luxury beauty price tag. But when

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Speaker 5: I think about beauty and skincare and collaborations with celebrities,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if Jua Lipa was the first name

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Speaker 2: Look, she's been a longtime fan of Augustin Aespata as

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Speaker 2: they did Victoria back in Beauty back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: They are very exclusive with who they choose to mesh

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Speaker 2: do you know about what makes Augustin and Spda so

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Speaker 5: Look, I have a feeling it has something to do

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Speaker 5: with very expensive labs and very expensive things that we

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Speaker 5: ourselves that it's all going to work out for the best.

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Speaker 1: Look, you're hitting it on the head there.

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Speaker 2: It is due to their labs and a particular patented

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Speaker 2: complex that they have called TFC eight. So this is

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Speaker 5: beauty journey with our next story. So, Kim Kardashian household name,

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Speaker 5: friend of the pod, has been making moves in her

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Speaker 5: Kardashian family in general have had many a business venture.

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Speaker 5: They've offered many a product, some of them more questionable

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Speaker 5: Skims is like that magic thing. She's stuck a whole

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, acquisition being the key word. They're essentially Kim

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Speaker 2: And speaking of celebrity beauty brands, there's another one facing

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Speaker 2: Shane Mitchell. She just launched a kid's skincare line called Rinny.

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Speaker 1: It's for kids.

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Speaker 2: It's a k beauty inspired skincare and play line. And

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Speaker 5: Beauty Science, all about well, should we let our kids

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Speaker 2: So and you know, even face painting if you're not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, but again, like I would counter that, like

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Speaker 5: we live in Australia and you should always be putting

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Speaker 2: It's definitely one that's starting up, that's for sure. So

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Speaker 2: back into your dilemmas with Lee and Kelly.

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Speaker 3: That was interesting, Kelly, what color can't you wear? You're

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Speaker 3: I liked it. It's like you had that you know,

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Speaker 3: Is there a color that doesn't see you?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yellow.

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Speaker 4: I don't look great in yellow, yellow or orange like

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Speaker 3: Okay, you just suit color so much.

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Speaker 1: Who cares?

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Speaker 3: I like yellow gray?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm winter.

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Speaker 3: I wear gray gray. It's not a color, it's a shave. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: should we get out awesome questions? And the first one

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Speaker 4: pretty much it's a bloody joke.

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Speaker 1: I literally wrote, it's a joke.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good do you want me to read it then?

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Speaker 4: Ladies, Please rescue me from the overwhelm of all of

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Speaker 4: these sales. I'm excited and confused, Black Friday, Cyber Monday,

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Speaker 1: What should I buy?

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Speaker 3: It's a very overwhelming of year. I must admit. If

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Speaker 3: but yes, it's a great time to purchase if you

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Speaker 3: a little history lesson on Black Friday. No, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you one. Oh. I found it

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Speaker 3: really interesting. So the term I simply don't. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: Kelly is not going to be here for this question.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make her answer all of the second question.

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Speaker 3: The term black Friday was first used in the US

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Speaker 3: in the fifties or sixties by the police because after

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Speaker 3: our Boxing day sales before online shopping was a thing.

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Speaker 3: People used to like line up at my own David

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Speaker 4: And you'd see in movies it was represented or TV shows,

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Speaker 3: and then the second one's the neutralizer that turns it off.

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Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, so the combination of ah's and BHA, so

433
00:19:00,754 --> 00:19:02,274
Speaker 4: that it's the combo as well.

434
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Speaker 3: It's quite strong, it is, but she doesn't need it,

435
00:19:05,634 --> 00:19:07,554
Speaker 3: so anyway, you don't need it.

436
00:19:07,274 --> 00:19:10,914
Speaker 4: Then, so there isn't anything exactly like it on the

437
00:19:10,914 --> 00:19:13,394
Speaker 4: market with that two step and that's exactly why doctor

438
00:19:13,434 --> 00:19:18,434
Speaker 4: Dennis formulated to mimic the results obviously to a lot

439
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Speaker 4: less intensity of an insalon peel, which also uses a neutralizer.

440
00:19:23,794 --> 00:19:26,154
Speaker 4: Like they'll put the pul ingredients over you and then

441
00:19:26,234 --> 00:19:28,394
Speaker 4: use a neutralizer and they'll actually say, can you still

442
00:19:28,434 --> 00:19:31,314
Speaker 4: feel tingling? And then they'll wipe the neutralizer around your nose.

443
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Speaker 3: The corner of your nose or need that.

444
00:19:32,874 --> 00:19:35,954
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's why he created it, and we will link.

445
00:19:35,994 --> 00:19:37,593
Speaker 4: I think we talked about this on Friday, but we

446
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Speaker 4: will link that episode in the show notes when we're talking.

447
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Speaker 3: About the body tanning one. Yeah, he is a genius.

448
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Speaker 4: He is, but I totally get it. Not great for wastage,

449
00:19:46,714 --> 00:19:50,834
Speaker 4: and thirty treatments are one hundred and sixty dollars, which

450
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Speaker 4: is five dollars and thirty cents per.

451
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Speaker 3: Track on okay, I have not purchased product for probably

452
00:19:55,274 --> 00:19:56,994
Speaker 3: a doll I thought it was like seventy five.

453
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Speaker 4: Still no thirty treatments one hundred and sixty dollars, so

454
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Speaker 4: fair enough. She's looking for something more affordable in terms

455
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Speaker 4: of ingredients and price. So the best alternative options I

456
00:20:09,114 --> 00:20:15,714
Speaker 4: found were the neogen peel gauze, which doesn't have the

457
00:20:16,114 --> 00:20:21,714
Speaker 4: neutralized neutralizer, but it does have the exfoliating chemical exfoliating

458
00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:23,194
Speaker 4: pads in one big pot.

459
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Speaker 1: Ye, thirty five.

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Speaker 4: Dollars for thirty pads, So that's a dollar sixteen per treatment?

461
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Speaker 3: Is it ahabh?

462
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Speaker 1: Yes?

463
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Speaker 4: So in terms of the formulation of the chemical ex folient,

464
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Speaker 4: it is the most similar in terms of quality of

465
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Speaker 4: ingredients and the way that it's formulated.

466
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Speaker 1: According to Reddit.

467
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Speaker 3: And chach tech, need a BHA but keep going. I

468
00:20:43,674 --> 00:20:46,034
Speaker 3: some people like them, that's true, but I think she'd

469
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Speaker 3: be better off with the lectic keep going.

470
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Speaker 4: The second one is the Peter Thomas Roth peptide skinjection pads.

471
00:20:54,434 --> 00:20:57,714
Speaker 4: Similar but not as strong. Sites would be better. I

472
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Speaker 4: forgot about though, because it's got the chemical looks folling it,

473
00:21:00,714 --> 00:21:02,194
Speaker 4: but it's also got the peptides in it, so it's

474
00:21:02,194 --> 00:21:03,194
Speaker 4: still quite hydrating.

475
00:21:03,274 --> 00:21:04,194
Speaker 3: Yeah, and bit strengthening.

476
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Speaker 4: That one is eighty five dollars for sixty pads. I'd

477
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Speaker 4: sow a dollar forty per treatment. So pricier than the

478
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Speaker 4: neogen which you get from k Beauty. Feel so much

479
00:21:12,474 --> 00:21:13,793
Speaker 4: better than so much cheaper.

480
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a doctor, though, so we can you recond

481
00:21:16,514 --> 00:21:19,033
Speaker 3: she's tried the good old Paula's choice.

482
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Speaker 4: I know it's not a pad, and I think the

483
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Speaker 4: reason that funny enough if you wait till Friday. I've

484
00:21:24,274 --> 00:21:27,154
Speaker 4: got a really great option for people that want the

485
00:21:27,194 --> 00:21:30,034
Speaker 4: chemical ex follow it but don't want because I think

486
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Speaker 4: I know why some people are hesitant to use a

487
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Speaker 4: product like Paula's choice the BH Yeah, and it's because

488
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Speaker 4: of laziess.

489
00:21:36,594 --> 00:21:37,634
Speaker 3: Oh that one's so easy.

490
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you've still got to like get and get

491
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Speaker 6: a I know, I know, know, Like I think that

492
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Speaker 6: one of the reasons why peel pads are so popular

493
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Speaker 6: already so is because they're pre soaked that you don't

494
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Speaker 6: have to do it.

495
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Speaker 3: It's so true.

496
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just like, I think we're all

497
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Speaker 1: a lot lazier than we like.

498
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Speaker 3: Well, if you just click made us all for Friday,

499
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Speaker 3: can't wait change. I liked that you actually worked at

500
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Speaker 3: the mass I did.

501
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Speaker 1: Do you know I love math? Actually I don't.

502
00:22:02,474 --> 00:22:05,714
Speaker 4: I'm terrible at it, but like I love just to

503
00:22:05,794 --> 00:22:09,474
Speaker 4: find things and understanding the actual cost of something. I

504
00:22:09,514 --> 00:22:11,434
Speaker 4: got the ingredients up and like put them next to

505
00:22:11,514 --> 00:22:13,354
Speaker 4: chat your between, got them to compare it. Then I

506
00:22:13,394 --> 00:22:14,834
Speaker 4: went down like a big subreddit.

507
00:22:14,914 --> 00:22:16,553
Speaker 3: You're that meme of that woman that's got all the

508
00:22:16,954 --> 00:22:18,274
Speaker 3: literally trying to figure it out.

509
00:22:18,274 --> 00:22:21,234
Speaker 1: Because there's so many products on the models.

510
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Speaker 3: Amelia, I know you when you like quality and you don't,

511
00:22:24,794 --> 00:22:26,194
Speaker 3: you're not an over consumer.

512
00:22:26,274 --> 00:22:28,513
Speaker 1: So if you really love the product, there isn't anything

513
00:22:28,554 --> 00:22:29,994
Speaker 1: exactly like wrong.

514
00:22:29,994 --> 00:22:31,674
Speaker 3: I would only use them once a week, Maxim.

515
00:22:31,994 --> 00:22:33,834
Speaker 1: Do you know what some people do? They actually cut

516
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Speaker 1: because there's enough to.

517
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Speaker 3: Do your face, your declatage, and it's still actually in

518
00:22:38,194 --> 00:22:40,593
Speaker 3: an air tight thing. There you go, so that they

519
00:22:40,634 --> 00:22:42,874
Speaker 3: can get more than one use out of them. Kelly,

520
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Speaker 3: that was fascinating. Thank you, my gosh.

521
00:22:44,474 --> 00:22:46,274
Speaker 4: That was like an extra beauty bite before we've even

522
00:22:46,314 --> 00:22:53,834
Speaker 4: done the beauty bite.

523
00:22:54,594 --> 00:22:56,754
Speaker 3: All right, beauty bite, do you want to know mine?

524
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Speaker 3: I had a few, but I've got a good one. Yes,

525
00:22:59,434 --> 00:23:05,954
Speaker 3: I've been playing scientist again. Oh hi, I like Ailana.

526
00:23:06,074 --> 00:23:09,474
Speaker 3: I'm talking pencil ala now. I love the Victoria Beckham

527
00:23:09,474 --> 00:23:12,874
Speaker 3: beauty but they're almost too juicy. Okay, and then I've

528
00:23:12,914 --> 00:23:16,274
Speaker 3: got some eyeliners that are almost like they're the budgeproof ones.

529
00:23:16,714 --> 00:23:18,754
Speaker 3: Guess what I did. I was playing with those ones.

530
00:23:18,834 --> 00:23:21,554
Speaker 3: You've got an eyeliner that's great pigment or great color,

531
00:23:21,594 --> 00:23:25,354
Speaker 3: but it's a bit too chalky or you can't blend

532
00:23:25,394 --> 00:23:28,914
Speaker 3: it when I say half a cheer seat amount. You

533
00:23:28,954 --> 00:23:32,194
Speaker 3: get a teeny tiny bit of face oil and you

534
00:23:32,234 --> 00:23:33,914
Speaker 3: can make it. You can put it on after if

535
00:23:33,954 --> 00:23:36,914
Speaker 3: you want, with a like a tiny anglod brush, or

536
00:23:36,954 --> 00:23:39,354
Speaker 3: you can almost make your own smudgy eyeliner with a

537
00:23:39,434 --> 00:23:43,434
Speaker 3: chalky liner or a like a budgeproof long wear eyeliner

538
00:23:43,474 --> 00:23:45,394
Speaker 3: and a tiny bit of face oil, and then you

539
00:23:45,434 --> 00:23:47,354
Speaker 3: can also it's easier to smudge out and you kind

540
00:23:47,394 --> 00:23:50,594
Speaker 3: of get that lived in grunge sexy sexy. Yeah I

541
00:23:50,634 --> 00:23:52,273
Speaker 3: was gonna say gruney, but I don't want that grunty,

542
00:23:52,274 --> 00:23:54,874
Speaker 3: but like sexy. Like it's almost making a Victoria Beckham

543
00:23:54,914 --> 00:23:58,154
Speaker 3: eyeliner with your old RIMML and a bit of hoover.

544
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Speaker 3: Can you try? It's so fun.

545
00:24:00,474 --> 00:24:00,954
Speaker 1: I love that.

546
00:24:00,994 --> 00:24:03,874
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it on my lower bit libs like area,

547
00:24:03,914 --> 00:24:05,513
Speaker 3: but I've done on my top flash line and it

548
00:24:05,594 --> 00:24:06,714
Speaker 3: just looks cool.

549
00:24:07,194 --> 00:24:09,274
Speaker 1: Didn't like then shmeer it everywhere.

550
00:24:08,874 --> 00:24:10,594
Speaker 3: Because when I say like, it's not even a drop

551
00:24:10,634 --> 00:24:12,074
Speaker 3: of oil, because the drop of oil is huge, it's

552
00:24:12,074 --> 00:24:17,234
Speaker 3: like like, yeah, okay, I let's see one go crazy.

553
00:24:17,594 --> 00:24:19,554
Speaker 3: I mean, you can like mix pigments with the oils.

554
00:24:19,634 --> 00:24:21,314
Speaker 1: No, that sounds very messy on the eyelid.

555
00:24:21,474 --> 00:24:25,274
Speaker 3: Okay, well then don't syrup. It works. What's yours?

556
00:24:25,434 --> 00:24:26,634
Speaker 1: It's just a bit of a PSA.

557
00:24:26,754 --> 00:24:28,154
Speaker 3: Oh you love your PSAs.

558
00:24:28,274 --> 00:24:29,234
Speaker 1: I do you love your science?

559
00:24:29,554 --> 00:24:32,553
Speaker 3: Maybe you should call it Kelly's PSA and products.

560
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Speaker 1: If you have an eye infection, don't.

561
00:24:37,674 --> 00:24:39,593
Speaker 3: Use oil with your eyeliner while you've got an eye infection.

562
00:24:39,794 --> 00:24:43,754
Speaker 4: Just a reminder not to just use a muscarra and

563
00:24:43,794 --> 00:24:45,394
Speaker 4: then think she'll be right.

564
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Speaker 3: Oh, it was fifty bucks. I don't.

565
00:24:48,394 --> 00:24:51,274
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was personal PSA.

566
00:24:51,554 --> 00:24:53,714
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just saying it when you say it was

567
00:24:53,714 --> 00:24:56,874
Speaker 3: fifty bucks the muscara. So imagine a person has an

568
00:24:56,874 --> 00:25:01,194
Speaker 3: eye infection and the person, the silly person, uses a

569
00:25:01,234 --> 00:25:04,354
Speaker 3: fifty dollar mscara, but then they have the infection while

570
00:25:04,354 --> 00:25:04,634
Speaker 3: they have the.

571
00:25:04,634 --> 00:25:07,234
Speaker 4: Eye infection, and they think, oh rats, you suppose to

572
00:25:07,274 --> 00:25:08,594
Speaker 4: throw them out. If you have an eye infection and

573
00:25:08,714 --> 00:25:10,754
Speaker 4: use it, NA, she'll be right because you don't want

574
00:25:10,754 --> 00:25:12,954
Speaker 4: to get because the person doesn't want to get rid

575
00:25:12,994 --> 00:25:14,914
Speaker 4: of the miscap.

576
00:25:14,394 --> 00:25:16,194
Speaker 3: But also doesn't want get a second eye infection.

577
00:25:16,514 --> 00:25:20,634
Speaker 4: Well, if that was to happen, the person would then

578
00:25:20,794 --> 00:25:24,793
Speaker 4: end up getting pink ei twice in ten days and

579
00:25:24,834 --> 00:25:27,434
Speaker 4: their eyes would be stuck together when they wake up.

580
00:25:27,474 --> 00:25:29,754
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, jack, jack jack yack, what oh my god,

581
00:25:29,754 --> 00:25:31,114
Speaker 3: that happened to me, month Ietter an eyepatch of it

582
00:25:31,154 --> 00:25:31,474
Speaker 3: was so bad.

583
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it happened to me.

584
00:25:32,714 --> 00:25:35,794
Speaker 3: I know I'm talking about this purpose is hypothetical killing

585
00:25:36,154 --> 00:25:39,234
Speaker 3: is if you have an eye infection of any type,

586
00:25:39,834 --> 00:25:42,594
Speaker 3: throw away your intimate eye products, like the ones that

587
00:25:42,594 --> 00:25:44,714
Speaker 3: go right near your eye, because it's not worth it.

588
00:25:44,994 --> 00:25:48,394
Speaker 1: Get some clausic if it was to happen.

589
00:25:48,474 --> 00:25:51,234
Speaker 3: But also don't use them again. Don't get your second

590
00:25:51,234 --> 00:25:53,514
Speaker 3: eye infection. What a silly person. No one would ever

591
00:25:53,554 --> 00:25:56,714
Speaker 3: do that, Kelly, Yeah, I know, like one would be

592
00:25:56,794 --> 00:25:57,674
Speaker 3: that silly.

593
00:25:57,394 --> 00:26:00,434
Speaker 1: But if it just so, no one would accidentally.

594
00:26:00,674 --> 00:26:03,314
Speaker 3: Okay, if you've been sick, do you throw out your toothbrush?

595
00:26:03,874 --> 00:26:04,074
Speaker 1: No?

596
00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:06,874
Speaker 3: I mean you don't have to, but yuck. Say you've

597
00:26:06,874 --> 00:26:08,314
Speaker 3: had the flu, don't you throw out you toothbrush and

598
00:26:08,354 --> 00:26:11,354
Speaker 3: get new? I don't have the flu forever, so I

599
00:26:11,394 --> 00:26:14,634
Speaker 3: take my bull and his herbs. I wonder if Pink

600
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Speaker 3: eye girl would throw out a toothbrush on that note.

601
00:26:17,634 --> 00:26:22,274
Speaker 1: She would because she wouldn't actually get she is finished.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, for listening. Of course, if you've got a question,

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Speaker 3: d m us on Instagram at you Buddy podcast and

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Speaker 3: we'll answer them asap. Make sure you following this on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: Woo Harman Bellow that was so obnoxious and annoying, And

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Speaker 4: on TikTok We're at you, Beauty pod.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye