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Speaker 1: On Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel jailty a body.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 2: Your Face.

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Speaker 3: I am Lee Cam, I'm Kelly mccaren and off Mike.

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Speaker 3: Lee and I were just having a bit of a well.

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Speaker 3: I was like just really blowing gas up our bottoms

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Speaker 3: volumes with how hot our hair.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've joined the Lee Short hair Club.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to put mine back because I hate

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Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, mondays, we do questions, we receive them from

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Speaker 2: you and then we answer so and.

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Speaker 1: We do know how to at all, we promise.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: Later on in the episode, we have got a question

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Speaker 3: all about Peppy Pep Pep tides.

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Speaker 1: My first a question from Emma.

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Speaker 3: Hi all, I am struggling to find a BB cream

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Speaker 3: with SBF that has non patchy coverage and a suitable

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Speaker 3: foily skin. I already wear a mecha sunscreen each day

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Speaker 3: after cleansing. I've tried so many and spent so much

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Speaker 3: the heat in Perth or is super patchy. I do

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Speaker 3: prefer a more complete coverage, however, not as much as foundation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, let's talk about this, Emma. So you're in Perth, yeah, hot,

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Speaker 2: dry heat. Though you say you already use a mecha

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Speaker 2: sunscreen each day after cleansing, so I'm assuming you are

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Speaker 2: wearing a full layer of non tinted sunscreen and then

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Speaker 2: a bit of SPF because if not, may I just

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Speaker 2: remind you that you'll never ever be able to wear

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Speaker 2: enough of a tinted product to be your sunscreen. Step

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Speaker 2: the wonderful Hannah English wrote for Mama Mia a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, and we'll link it in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: She took photos of every step she tried to use

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Speaker 2: a tinted SPF fifty plus to get enough sunscreen, so

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Speaker 2: she measured it out and the end result is just she.

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Speaker 3: Has got So does she look like that Meredith chick

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Speaker 3: from TikTok that does ten pumps a foundation on you?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: She literally looks like when missus Doubtfire puts her face

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Speaker 2: in the cake. But it's just like a tinted SPF.

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Speaker 2: So you've got your original layer of clear whatever sunscreen. Fine,

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Speaker 2: then let's find you another product. I've got a few recommendations. Actually,

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Speaker 2: the one Hannah tried would be good for you, not

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Speaker 2: in the volume she used it. It's the It Cosmetics

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Speaker 2: Your Skin but better. Sea Sea Cream SBF fifty an

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Speaker 2: oldie but goody and oldie but a goody. I would

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Speaker 2: almost call it a full coverage foundation. They call it

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Speaker 2: calling on it to be your sunscreen steps, so just

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Speaker 2: use it quite sheer because it is quite full coverage.

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Speaker 2: They've got variant so there's a mate one, an illuminating one,

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Speaker 2: and a middle like just normal one. As a combo person,

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Speaker 2: reckon you might like that one. Then there's the sweat

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Speaker 2: Ready mineral infused liquid foundation that's literally for sweaty people,

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Speaker 2: people that work out. There's a bunch of shades there

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Speaker 2: customize it. The Cancer Council Face Day where CC cream

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Speaker 2: got it then like a moisturizing version the new Purple one,

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Speaker 2: whereas this is kind of a rose gold packaging and

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Speaker 2: it's definitely the more matt of the two. Sheer coverage,

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Speaker 2: but pretty decent coverage for a CC in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: The Labachet sun Cover great SPF fifty foundation is exactly

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Speaker 2: BB Cream SBF forty two, so they're kind of coverage

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Speaker 2: do a bit of setting because there's only so much

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Speaker 3: I actually am going to give advice in the opposite direction,

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's going patchy, it's going gross. She's not

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Speaker 3: You've already got your SBF on, so let's not even

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Speaker 1: They're also not expensive.

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Speaker 3: You can get so many beautiful ones at price lines,

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Speaker 3: so just go into price line and have a little look.

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Speaker 1: So many of the big brands that always on sale.

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Speaker 1: Have them now.

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Speaker 3: I've talked about the Revlon Illuminance Serum tint so much

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Speaker 3: Yes, that one is beautiful. Have a look at price line.

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Speaker 3: There are so many and that way, you're also not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, add a little bit of concealer where you need

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Speaker 3: I also think the patchiness will decrease once you stop

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Speaker 2: You're very clever because, yeah, if you've got y SPF step,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get rid of it. Let's just go to

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Speaker 2: I take back everything I said. I recommended great products too,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, there's definitely two approaches. If you've got your

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Speaker 1: All right. Coming up after the break, we've got our.

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Speaker 3: Peppy pep pep tide question, and I promise you I

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Speaker 2: Sam has asked High Team. I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 2: the U Biddy podcast and I'm hoping you can help

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Speaker 2: me understand more about pep tides. I hear they mentioned

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Speaker 2: a lot, but don't understand what they do. Are all

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Speaker 2: need to look for specific ingredients and formulas. I'm thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: so my main skin concern is aging. Are there any

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Speaker 1: Many? Thanks Sam? Good points. Sam.

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Speaker 2: I think that peptides have always been using skincare, but

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Speaker 2: now they're being called out as hero ingredients. So let's

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Speaker 2: kind of explain to you what they are without trying

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Speaker 2: to freak you out with too much science. So peptides

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Speaker 2: are a type of protein, right, There's lots of proteins

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Speaker 2: and essentially they're kind of like the best friend to

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Speaker 2: collagen or a building block to collagen. So what they're

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Speaker 2: going to do, like with collagen or lesson, is they're

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Speaker 2: elastin fire and again, because we're aging a bit and

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Speaker 2: you've taken a lie down, but let's get up and

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Speaker 2: let's really.

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Speaker 1: Be put a pep in your step. Yes, that's so true.

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Speaker 2: So peptides are basically proteins that make your skin happier, bouncier.

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Speaker 2: You're born with a lot, and as we age they decrease.

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Speaker 2: Peptides in skincare can do lots of different things depending

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Speaker 2: on the skincare, but the right person to try them

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Speaker 2: because they really do have impressive sort of skin barrier support,

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Speaker 2: anti aging, hydrating, they're a great all rounder. They're probably

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Speaker 2: in products you already use, they just don't say it,

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Speaker 2: scientific thing. Peptides will help increase the collagen in your

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Speaker 2: in our bones it's in our carlage, and of course

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Speaker 3: Feel like, more importantly it is in our cartilage the bone.

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Speaker 2: So collagen peptides are like what form collagen? So putting

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Speaker 2: them like, I'm really simplifying things here to wake up

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Speaker 2: and get happening again, which will happen, you know, it

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Speaker 2: of a messenger. So peptides are generally in skincare small

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Speaker 2: whereas other ingredients bigger molecules that sort of sit on

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Speaker 2: even though peptides are barrier repair as well. So they're

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Speaker 2: just really good multi use products. Yes, the skin knows

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Speaker 2: what they do. When it gets there, they're like, oh

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Speaker 2: hello you yep, sorry, I'll get back to work, so

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Speaker 2: if that makes sense, we love peptides.

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Speaker 3: I saw someone recently that I don't think did have

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Speaker 3: any bone cartilage.

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Speaker 1: Oh what do you mean at Sircu de Silee.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I've seen one of those shows he went

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Speaker 3: inside out. Yeah, I saw and I was like, sir,

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Speaker 3: on the actual floor. It was the most incredible.

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Speaker 2: Like, whoa, what have you got? I'm passing over to

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Speaker 2: Kelly before I keep going.

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Speaker 1: Lee's got a really.

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Speaker 3: Great list of products that she's going to recommend. But

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Speaker 3: when I saw this question, it actually inspired me to

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Speaker 3: shot my own stash.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because you know that brand that I love with products.

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Speaker 3: I love the snail musin corsex do a really popular

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Speaker 3: product called the six Peptide Skin Booster that I had

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Speaker 3: in my stash, but I kept forgetting about to try it.

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Speaker 3: So Sam has reminded me to get it out this

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Speaker 3: I'm now going to go home and try it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: People love their peppy peptides.

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Speaker 2: They do do you know why though, because they're very

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Speaker 2: Let me finish talking first, to complicate things further. Growth

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Speaker 3: Peptides good all right, after the break, we've both got

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Speaker 1: What you makeup hacks?

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Speaker 2: All right, Kelly wrot's your anti host haack.

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Speaker 3: A reminder that when you're washing your makeup brushes, don't

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Speaker 2: And also, like you probably do it well, I get

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Speaker 2: Well, my anti host hack is something that I did

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Speaker 2: I can't get to the appointment every week anyway. Follow them,

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Speaker 1: Don't apply them to your lashes.

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Speaker 2: You imagine, don't apply them to lashes, but don't do

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Speaker 2: time for, my friends.

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Speaker 1: Answered to questions and given to anti hacks. I don't

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's let us learn the hard way. Yes, thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: Yes, DM, ask your questions at You Beauty podcasts now

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Speaker 2: delightful producer.

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Speaker 1: Will pass them on.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a little chitty chat and we might talk

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: On the show.

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Speaker 3: You Beauty is produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio production

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Speaker 3: by Teak and Sad Luck.

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Speaker 1: Bye Bye