1 00:00:21,290 --> 00:00:26,450 Speaker 1: So you're listening to another miir podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:26,530 --> 00:00:29,370 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this 3 00:00:29,450 --> 00:00:33,610 Speaker 1: podcast on the Gadigul people of the Eor nation. We 4 00:00:33,650 --> 00:00:36,770 Speaker 1: pay our respects to their elders past and present, and 5 00:00:36,850 --> 00:00:41,250 Speaker 1: extend that respect to all Aboriginal and torres Rate islander cultures. 6 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:42,650 Speaker 2: Hi. 7 00:00:42,810 --> 00:00:48,090 Speaker 3: It's Annalise Todd here from this Glorious mess introducing Hot 8 00:00:48,210 --> 00:00:52,490 Speaker 3: Pod Summer, one hundred hours of curated listening across the 9 00:00:52,570 --> 00:00:56,410 Speaker 3: Mumamere network, just for you to escape the chaos and 10 00:00:56,730 --> 00:01:00,690 Speaker 3: enjoy with the kids at home and the weather warming up. 11 00:01:01,010 --> 00:01:05,490 Speaker 3: We've got episodes of little love Stories and Parents' Anonymous 12 00:01:05,490 --> 00:01:09,370 Speaker 3: to share. From the beginn to the yang. Parents Anonymous 13 00:01:09,450 --> 00:01:13,970 Speaker 3: is part game show, part church confessional. You share your 14 00:01:14,010 --> 00:01:18,130 Speaker 3: deepest parenting shame, and myself and Stacey Hicks rate you, 15 00:01:18,410 --> 00:01:22,370 Speaker 3: but the worst parenting wins the most points, so really 16 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:25,250 Speaker 3: you can't lose. If you're looking for something else to 17 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:29,690 Speaker 3: listen to, Mama Mia is officially presenting one hundred hours 18 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:35,010 Speaker 3: of summer listens, from meaningful conversations to incredible stories, fashion, 19 00:01:35,170 --> 00:01:37,610 Speaker 3: beauty and more. There's a link in the show. 20 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:48,050 Speaker 4: Notes Parents Anonymous welcome to this glorious mess. I'm Annalie's 21 00:01:48,050 --> 00:01:51,930 Speaker 4: single mum to two twain boys, and I mute my 22 00:01:52,090 --> 00:01:56,170 Speaker 4: kids sports WhatsApp groups. And I'm Stacy Hicks, the exhausted 23 00:01:56,250 --> 00:01:58,570 Speaker 4: mum of a very strong wheeled three year old girl. 24 00:01:58,650 --> 00:02:00,770 Speaker 4: And the bags under my eyes a country road I 25 00:02:00,810 --> 00:02:02,250 Speaker 4: got them on sale. Do you like them? 26 00:02:02,410 --> 00:02:04,970 Speaker 3: Well, I would say they're more giving Gucci. I feel 27 00:02:04,970 --> 00:02:07,330 Speaker 3: like more high end than that. 28 00:02:07,530 --> 00:02:11,370 Speaker 4: Thanks, I appreciate that. So today, Stace, we're launching a 29 00:02:11,410 --> 00:02:15,610 Speaker 4: fun new episode within your Glorious mess weekly feed called 30 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:20,890 Speaker 4: Parents Anonymous. Yes, Parents Anonymous is part church confessional, heart 31 00:02:20,930 --> 00:02:22,810 Speaker 4: game show and a whole lot of laughs, if we 32 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:26,530 Speaker 4: do say so ourselves. The concept is pretty simple. You 33 00:02:26,570 --> 00:02:28,690 Speaker 4: tell us a story and get the guilt off your chest, 34 00:02:28,810 --> 00:02:31,410 Speaker 4: and we judge you for it. But we will also 35 00:02:31,690 --> 00:02:34,250 Speaker 4: be putting you in competition with two other parents, just 36 00:02:34,330 --> 00:02:37,210 Speaker 4: in case you didn't find parenting enough of a competition already. 37 00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:39,610 Speaker 4: But in this case, you get the most points for 38 00:02:39,650 --> 00:02:41,530 Speaker 4: being the worst parents, so there's no losing. 39 00:02:41,850 --> 00:02:44,370 Speaker 3: I think that's the best kind of competition. I agree, 40 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:47,410 Speaker 3: I would like to be crowned worst parent. So we 41 00:02:47,530 --> 00:02:50,650 Speaker 3: put a call out to our listeners through TGM and 42 00:02:50,810 --> 00:02:54,570 Speaker 3: Mama Mia for your confessions, and from there we invite 43 00:02:54,610 --> 00:02:58,770 Speaker 3: our favorite three to step into the confessional and spill 44 00:02:58,890 --> 00:02:59,970 Speaker 3: the guilty tea. 45 00:03:00,050 --> 00:03:02,770 Speaker 4: Yes, and we've never heard these before, So we're giving 46 00:03:02,810 --> 00:03:05,090 Speaker 4: you two minutes to tell your story, and then we 47 00:03:05,170 --> 00:03:08,730 Speaker 4: decide the best one based on hilariousness and creativity and 48 00:03:08,770 --> 00:03:10,730 Speaker 4: worse parentness and worse parentness. 49 00:03:10,850 --> 00:03:11,050 Speaker 1: Yes. 50 00:03:11,130 --> 00:03:14,130 Speaker 4: Absolutely. On today's show, we have a dummy fairy, a 51 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:16,970 Speaker 4: dating hotline. Oh that's on brand for me, and a 52 00:03:17,050 --> 00:03:18,170 Speaker 4: donating child. 53 00:03:18,650 --> 00:03:22,250 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm very intrigued, me too. Oh I can't wait. 54 00:03:22,290 --> 00:03:24,410 Speaker 4: Here we go. I tried to get my child to 55 00:03:24,410 --> 00:03:26,930 Speaker 4: stop using dummies by inventing something I like to call 56 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:27,850 Speaker 4: the dummy fairy. 57 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:28,690 Speaker 1: Picture this. 58 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:30,890 Speaker 4: I dug a hole in the garden, the dummies were 59 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:33,010 Speaker 4: placed inside. We sprinkled a little bit of glitter on 60 00:03:33,050 --> 00:03:35,370 Speaker 4: the whole, and then when they were distracted, I put 61 00:03:35,410 --> 00:03:36,650 Speaker 4: a toy truck in its place. 62 00:03:37,210 --> 00:03:39,250 Speaker 1: I feel so embarrassed in my child that they fell 63 00:03:39,330 --> 00:03:41,730 Speaker 1: for that, But oh well, it worked and now they don't. 64 00:03:41,570 --> 00:03:43,090 Speaker 5: Use a dummy. 65 00:03:43,170 --> 00:03:45,010 Speaker 3: The dummy fairy is not groundbreaking. 66 00:03:45,370 --> 00:03:47,570 Speaker 4: No, I was just about to say I wanted off 67 00:03:47,730 --> 00:03:50,330 Speaker 4: at this point. I invented the dummy fairy. I thought 68 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:52,410 Speaker 4: this was my genius idea when my three year old 69 00:03:52,490 --> 00:03:53,730 Speaker 4: had to give hers up as well. 70 00:03:53,810 --> 00:03:55,850 Speaker 3: Yes, but Stacy, did you go out into the garden 71 00:03:55,970 --> 00:03:57,890 Speaker 3: and bury it and give it a funeral? No? 72 00:03:58,130 --> 00:04:00,250 Speaker 4: I am giving her massive props for that because I didn't. 73 00:04:00,290 --> 00:04:02,210 Speaker 4: I just made up a story about the dummy fairy 74 00:04:02,210 --> 00:04:03,250 Speaker 4: and the next day they were gone. 75 00:04:03,370 --> 00:04:05,370 Speaker 3: And then not only did she give it a funeral, 76 00:04:05,410 --> 00:04:08,650 Speaker 3: but it got resurrected like Jesus in the form of 77 00:04:08,690 --> 00:04:09,090 Speaker 3: a toy. 78 00:04:09,650 --> 00:04:11,970 Speaker 4: I love it. I really should have thought of that. Actually, 79 00:04:12,090 --> 00:04:14,810 Speaker 4: very impressed with this. I like the commitment. I like 80 00:04:14,850 --> 00:04:17,770 Speaker 4: the creativity, the child I liked doing in return, the 81 00:04:17,810 --> 00:04:21,930 Speaker 4: religious symbolism of it being raised from Yes, love it. 82 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:24,050 Speaker 4: I think it's great. Okay, well, there's nothing to go 83 00:04:24,250 --> 00:04:28,250 Speaker 4: first out of ten tactical parenting. Well, because she beat me, 84 00:04:28,330 --> 00:04:30,890 Speaker 4: she committed to the lie more than I ever would have. 85 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:33,530 Speaker 4: I'm going to give her nine trucks out of ten. 86 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:37,850 Speaker 3: Hmmm, that's very generous. Look for the resurrection, for the 87 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:41,770 Speaker 3: religious symbolism, for the commitment. The glitter as well. I 88 00:04:41,890 --> 00:04:45,570 Speaker 3: like the glitter. That's good. I'm going to give her 89 00:04:45,610 --> 00:04:47,530 Speaker 3: a solid eight trucks out. 90 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:49,250 Speaker 4: Of ten trucks, or your hard market. 91 00:04:49,330 --> 00:04:55,130 Speaker 3: I like it. I am all right. So what have 92 00:04:55,130 --> 00:04:58,250 Speaker 3: we got up next? Donating children? I've thought about turning 93 00:04:58,290 --> 00:05:00,690 Speaker 3: mine on eBay. Let's see if it comes close to that. 94 00:05:01,610 --> 00:05:04,010 Speaker 5: I was out shopping and the shop assistant wanted to 95 00:05:04,050 --> 00:05:07,250 Speaker 5: cut on my newish second child. I got chatting to 96 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:11,410 Speaker 5: another shop assistant and then left the shop, only to 97 00:05:11,450 --> 00:05:16,770 Speaker 5: be chased down and reminded that my baby was still 98 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:19,250 Speaker 5: in the store. I live in a regional town and 99 00:05:19,290 --> 00:05:22,690 Speaker 5: it's quite a small community, so I am absolutely mortified 100 00:05:22,730 --> 00:05:24,090 Speaker 5: and haven't gone back to the store. 101 00:05:25,130 --> 00:05:29,450 Speaker 3: Oh, that's nothing to be embarrassed about. She's busy, she's shopping, 102 00:05:29,690 --> 00:05:33,530 Speaker 3: she's got two kids, she's outnumbered, and if it's a 103 00:05:33,570 --> 00:05:34,930 Speaker 3: new baby, she's tired. 104 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:38,290 Speaker 4: Exactly. I have lost count of the amount of times 105 00:05:38,330 --> 00:05:40,490 Speaker 4: I've been driving with my child in the car and 106 00:05:40,530 --> 00:05:42,490 Speaker 4: suddenly she'll make a noise and I go, oh, I'm 107 00:05:42,530 --> 00:05:45,170 Speaker 4: a mother, like I actually forget for a moment that 108 00:05:45,250 --> 00:05:48,010 Speaker 4: she's there, when she's quiet for a change. I mean, 109 00:05:48,090 --> 00:05:51,090 Speaker 4: it's not great ideal to count your children before you 110 00:05:51,170 --> 00:05:51,730 Speaker 4: leave the store. 111 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:53,850 Speaker 3: And it's good that she lives in a regional town. 112 00:05:53,890 --> 00:05:57,690 Speaker 3: That's safe in that instance as well. Exactly exactly in 113 00:05:57,770 --> 00:05:59,530 Speaker 3: terms of leaving a kid with a stranger, it's a 114 00:05:59,570 --> 00:06:02,530 Speaker 3: small community, that's good. Yeah, so no harm was done, 115 00:06:02,690 --> 00:06:05,970 Speaker 3: the child got returned. I have threatened my kids before that. 116 00:06:06,010 --> 00:06:07,890 Speaker 3: I was going to put them on eBay and I 117 00:06:07,970 --> 00:06:10,610 Speaker 3: was thinking, like, I've gone there mentally and I've said 118 00:06:10,610 --> 00:06:12,170 Speaker 3: it to them. I think that's worse. What are you 119 00:06:12,250 --> 00:06:12,850 Speaker 3: scoring her? 120 00:06:13,210 --> 00:06:16,050 Speaker 4: We've got her deduct points for forgetting your child, but 121 00:06:16,090 --> 00:06:18,410 Speaker 4: we also totally understand why you've done it. 122 00:06:18,450 --> 00:06:20,770 Speaker 3: That's your marking system, not mine. 123 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:24,970 Speaker 4: Do I sound too judging? I probably do, But look, 124 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:27,130 Speaker 4: I think it's a great parenting confession. I think a 125 00:06:27,130 --> 00:06:29,290 Speaker 4: lot of people probably keep things like this to themselves, 126 00:06:29,290 --> 00:06:31,130 Speaker 4: but they do it more than they like to admit. 127 00:06:31,570 --> 00:06:33,010 Speaker 4: So I think it's good that we just get these 128 00:06:33,050 --> 00:06:35,290 Speaker 4: out in the open. She probably feels so much better 129 00:06:35,330 --> 00:06:38,010 Speaker 4: now she said it. We've all secretly wanted to leave 130 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:40,130 Speaker 4: our child with a friendly babysitter for a few minutes 131 00:06:40,130 --> 00:06:41,210 Speaker 4: so we can catch our breadths. 132 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:42,130 Speaker 3: So on eBay. 133 00:06:42,210 --> 00:06:45,530 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, I'll give her seven point five. 134 00:06:45,810 --> 00:06:48,970 Speaker 3: Oh okay for oversharing, because you know, like that's that 135 00:06:49,130 --> 00:06:53,010 Speaker 3: is your man truck brand. So for the oversharing and 136 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:56,010 Speaker 3: the fact that she could like people like you would think, 137 00:06:56,050 --> 00:06:58,570 Speaker 3: it's really bad. I'm going to give her a nine 138 00:06:58,810 --> 00:07:01,850 Speaker 3: out of forgetting her child. Out of ten, I think, 139 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:05,050 Speaker 3: go go, you love it. What do we got last? 140 00:07:05,250 --> 00:07:08,130 Speaker 4: I feel like we've kept your perfect one And for last, 141 00:07:08,290 --> 00:07:10,130 Speaker 4: dating hotline is an ext one line. 142 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:10,890 Speaker 3: What she has to say. 143 00:07:12,090 --> 00:07:14,090 Speaker 2: I am a single parent and was out for coffee 144 00:07:14,130 --> 00:07:16,450 Speaker 2: with my friends, telling her all about my plan to 145 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:19,370 Speaker 2: go out and have mindless sex with no strings attached 146 00:07:19,410 --> 00:07:23,410 Speaker 2: for the next twelve months, very intricate details. I got 147 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:25,570 Speaker 2: to my car to leave, and my car said, do 148 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:28,010 Speaker 2: you want to transfer the call to the car? I thought, 149 00:07:28,050 --> 00:07:31,570 Speaker 2: that's strange, I'm not on a call. Well yes I was. 150 00:07:31,770 --> 00:07:35,010 Speaker 2: In fact, I'd called the school mom's group chat for 151 00:07:35,050 --> 00:07:36,170 Speaker 2: twenty two minutes. 152 00:07:36,970 --> 00:07:40,810 Speaker 3: Oh my god, our jaws are on the floor. Stacy like, 153 00:07:41,090 --> 00:07:42,690 Speaker 3: if this is not a visual medium, but if you 154 00:07:42,690 --> 00:07:45,010 Speaker 3: could see us right now, our jaws are on the floor. 155 00:07:45,410 --> 00:07:47,370 Speaker 4: This is not something that happens to us very often. 156 00:07:47,410 --> 00:07:50,370 Speaker 4: We had never lost for words, never never, But. 157 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:51,170 Speaker 3: Here we are. 158 00:07:52,410 --> 00:07:54,610 Speaker 4: This is my worst night, very in any situation. 159 00:07:54,810 --> 00:07:58,250 Speaker 3: I'm clutching my purse, and this is something that I 160 00:07:58,330 --> 00:08:01,330 Speaker 3: possibly would do. That's why I'm so upset for her, 161 00:08:01,450 --> 00:08:04,010 Speaker 3: Like that is literally something that I would do. This 162 00:08:04,450 --> 00:08:07,410 Speaker 3: why you needed two minutes is long. 163 00:08:07,450 --> 00:08:09,290 Speaker 4: That's a long time. This is why you need to 164 00:08:09,410 --> 00:08:13,050 Speaker 4: check that the phone is off or away before you 165 00:08:13,090 --> 00:08:14,290 Speaker 4: start getting into the nitty gritty. 166 00:08:14,650 --> 00:08:16,970 Speaker 3: SERI is not listening and doing things. 167 00:08:18,370 --> 00:08:20,450 Speaker 4: I really want to know more about the fallout. I 168 00:08:20,690 --> 00:08:22,930 Speaker 4: really want to know what happened and how many people. 169 00:08:22,770 --> 00:08:25,450 Speaker 3: Heard the details, and if they committed to the full 170 00:08:25,450 --> 00:08:27,210 Speaker 3: twenty two minutes, because obviously I would. 171 00:08:27,570 --> 00:08:29,570 Speaker 4: There is no way on this earth I would be 172 00:08:29,570 --> 00:08:32,170 Speaker 4: hanging up on that call. If someone accidentally called me 173 00:08:32,210 --> 00:08:34,810 Speaker 4: and I was hearing the nedy gritty of their dating life, 174 00:08:34,930 --> 00:08:36,850 Speaker 4: I would be listening to every single second of it. 175 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:39,250 Speaker 3: So corn straight to the microwave. I'm afraid to. 176 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:41,970 Speaker 4: Say, I think everyone heard everything you had to say, 177 00:08:42,290 --> 00:08:44,970 Speaker 4: but I think everyone would be very jealous of what 178 00:08:44,970 --> 00:08:45,730 Speaker 4: you had to say. 179 00:08:45,930 --> 00:08:48,050 Speaker 3: I agree, actually, and I think this is not a 180 00:08:48,130 --> 00:08:50,730 Speaker 3: shameful one. This is the walk of fame, not a 181 00:08:50,770 --> 00:08:53,570 Speaker 3: walk of shame, exactly. They'll talk about you for decades, 182 00:08:53,610 --> 00:08:56,330 Speaker 3: So he's jealous. Yeah, and this will be the story 183 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:58,690 Speaker 3: that they tell to their other mum friends in the 184 00:08:58,690 --> 00:09:00,650 Speaker 3: best possible way. I mean, I look at that legend, 185 00:09:00,770 --> 00:09:03,290 Speaker 3: the great sex life, off she goes the spring and 186 00:09:03,330 --> 00:09:04,410 Speaker 3: her step now you know why. 187 00:09:05,810 --> 00:09:07,290 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think she should be a shamed by 188 00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:09,170 Speaker 4: this at all. I think this is brilliant. And look 189 00:09:09,570 --> 00:09:12,130 Speaker 4: at the great table fodder that she's given to other 190 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:14,690 Speaker 4: people to talk about with their friends. Like sometimes when 191 00:09:14,730 --> 00:09:17,570 Speaker 4: you're a parent, you can get really boring, like you're 192 00:09:17,610 --> 00:09:19,690 Speaker 4: not doing that much, You're not getting out and doing 193 00:09:19,690 --> 00:09:21,490 Speaker 4: as much as other people. So really, you've done a 194 00:09:21,490 --> 00:09:23,810 Speaker 4: public service by sharing this story. I think it's great. 195 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:27,090 Speaker 3: And for that, for your active service, for the service 196 00:09:27,090 --> 00:09:30,770 Speaker 3: of others doing God's work. I give you, Sexy Lady 197 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:32,130 Speaker 3: a solid ten out of ten. 198 00:09:32,250 --> 00:09:35,290 Speaker 4: I give you ten butt dials out of ten. Well done. 199 00:09:35,530 --> 00:09:38,570 Speaker 3: And if you've got a confession, we would love to 200 00:09:38,610 --> 00:09:40,650 Speaker 3: hear it, Like we really really live for this. We 201 00:09:40,690 --> 00:09:42,730 Speaker 3: want to know it and just get it off your chest. 202 00:09:42,850 --> 00:09:45,450 Speaker 3: Release better out than in. As the old saying guy. 203 00:09:45,530 --> 00:09:46,770 Speaker 4: You'll feel better once you tell us. 204 00:09:46,810 --> 00:09:49,250 Speaker 3: We promise send us your secret shame. You can be 205 00:09:49,370 --> 00:09:53,010 Speaker 3: completely anonymous or leave a voice note or email. We 206 00:09:53,210 --> 00:09:55,170 Speaker 3: just want to hear from you. All the details are 207 00:09:55,170 --> 00:09:55,810 Speaker 3: in the show notes.