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Speaker 1: the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Bredney

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Speaker 1: and today I'm joined by Tina Berg, Mama's pop culture

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Speaker 1: I love to dress. As a side note, coming up

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Speaker 1: on the show today, lots of important chat. We have

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Speaker 1: news that two of our favorite stars are teaming up

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Speaker 1: for a movie. There's a lot of context there, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of nostalgia. There might be some crying, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, mainly from me. Plus, Blake Lively has posted

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Speaker 1: Instagram carousel that was meant to be lovely and nostalgic,

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Speaker 1: but has completely blown up. And we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the fallout from that because it is intense on

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Speaker 1: very many levels. But first, we've had some news out

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Speaker 1: Perhaps if you did, I don't know, maybe the rock's comfortable.

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Speaker 1: But Jimmy Kimmel, the host of Jimmy Kimmel Live, was

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Speaker 1: pulled from the air last week over some comments that

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Speaker 1: the air. It was a huge controversy. But he's back.

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Speaker 1: He's back. He's back in an extent. Yes, And just

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Speaker 1: which given the way the world is now, doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: no one would see me. It sounds delightful if you're

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Speaker 1: not across Jimmy Kimmel opened his monologue after the shooting

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Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk with some content about it. But I

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Speaker 1: think some people have reported that he said something extremely

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Speaker 1: He didn't. He basically just said that people were working

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Speaker 1: It became issue of politics infiltrating not just late night TV,

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Speaker 1: That's how you know things are quite bad because Wimmy

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Speaker 1: And he basically put up a post being like, I

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Speaker 1: to come back pedro, Well done. And he also said

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Speaker 1: love about Paul Noah he always gets caught in an

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Speaker 1: of conservative figures coming out to say, like, while I

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Speaker 1: more how upset just the world was than our own

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Speaker 1: ABC here in Australia, who received thousands upon thousands of

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Speaker 1: complaints about Jimmy Kimmel's show being taken off air, to

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Speaker 1: which happens quite a bit. We get an email being like,

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Speaker 1: or so to like they both started posting like normally

420
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Speaker 1: on and then later they talked about how they had

421
00:19:14,264 --> 00:19:16,704
Speaker 1: like fixed it up behind the scenes, that Jensen had

422
00:19:16,704 --> 00:19:18,944
Speaker 1: called him and said, hey, man, like this is so early.

423
00:19:18,984 --> 00:19:21,864
Speaker 1: It's really early talks. We obviously would have brought you in,

424
00:19:21,904 --> 00:19:24,664
Speaker 1: but we're just like thinking about it and these things

425
00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,984
Speaker 1: take so long. And then Jared was like, yeah, man,

426
00:19:27,024 --> 00:19:30,984
Speaker 1: I get it. You Like He's like, I get it.

427
00:19:31,024 --> 00:19:33,224
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I was like so hot headed. I

428
00:19:33,264 --> 00:19:34,464
Speaker 1: was just like I saw it. It was in all

429
00:19:34,504 --> 00:19:36,544
Speaker 1: of filming. I jumped on Twitter. I should called you,

430
00:19:36,944 --> 00:19:39,824
Speaker 1: and then they mended fences sow. I love that. The

431
00:19:39,864 --> 00:19:41,984
Speaker 1: thing I mostly love about this new Netflix movie is

432
00:19:41,984 --> 00:19:44,184
Speaker 1: if like Jensen Accles played the brother or something, but

433
00:19:44,224 --> 00:19:46,984
Speaker 1: I think he would, yeah, get too whereak of that energy?

434
00:19:47,064 --> 00:19:48,704
Speaker 1: Like you just know that they do a little like

435
00:19:49,024 --> 00:19:51,384
Speaker 1: a background appearance or something, and I think you kind

436
00:19:51,384 --> 00:19:53,424
Speaker 1: of touched on something with this whole one tree heilm

437
00:19:53,544 --> 00:19:55,904
Speaker 1: to the natural Marriage, which is that as much as

438
00:19:55,944 --> 00:19:58,744
Speaker 1: it's about the different nostalgic shows, it is also about

439
00:19:58,824 --> 00:20:00,744
Speaker 1: the fact that all of these people kind of married

440
00:20:00,864 --> 00:20:04,424
Speaker 1: or dated other people from things. A lot of Adam

441
00:20:04,464 --> 00:20:08,824
Speaker 1: Bodie's like riz and backstory and attraction comes from the

442
00:20:08,824 --> 00:20:10,904
Speaker 1: fact that he is married to Blair Waldorf. In real life,

443
00:20:11,104 --> 00:20:13,584
Speaker 1: he's married to Latin Mista. They're both really talented, they're

444
00:20:13,624 --> 00:20:16,144
Speaker 1: both really great, but fans also have that added love

445
00:20:16,384 --> 00:20:19,144
Speaker 1: for that weird nostalgia. And so Layton's going to be

446
00:20:19,184 --> 00:20:21,024
Speaker 1: and nobody wants this and that's just like a bit

447
00:20:21,024 --> 00:20:22,984
Speaker 1: of a side role. She was in the Buccaneers in

448
00:20:23,024 --> 00:20:25,584
Speaker 1: a really small role. Obviously we really loved good Cop,

449
00:20:25,624 --> 00:20:28,784
Speaker 1: Bad Cop, but this would be like her real return

450
00:20:28,824 --> 00:20:31,384
Speaker 1: to like a leading rom com role. And I think

451
00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:34,064
Speaker 1: Jared needs it too. But there's just like fifty thousand

452
00:20:34,104 --> 00:20:37,144
Speaker 1: elements of nostalgia or boiled into one. And then it's

453
00:20:37,144 --> 00:20:39,824
Speaker 1: got the h like secret ingredient of the moment, which

454
00:20:39,864 --> 00:20:42,944
Speaker 1: is it has to be a BookTalk adaptation exactly. Booktoker

455
00:20:42,944 --> 00:20:44,584
Speaker 1: is really the any thing with the power to like

456
00:20:44,784 --> 00:20:48,424
Speaker 1: make these big adaptations, yeah kind of popular or not.

457
00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:51,064
Speaker 1: And what studios are looking for. It's interesting, It's like

458
00:20:51,104 --> 00:20:53,704
Speaker 1: it's very clear what audiences want at the moment is that, yeah,

459
00:20:53,744 --> 00:20:56,184
Speaker 1: we want hints of nostalgia from our favorite stars to

460
00:20:56,224 --> 00:20:59,864
Speaker 1: come back in different roles. And we love it coming

461
00:20:59,864 --> 00:21:03,304
Speaker 1: from that BookTalk area because that is such an influential space,

462
00:21:03,344 --> 00:21:05,784
Speaker 1: that's just guaranteed fan base. But I would love to

463
00:21:05,784 --> 00:21:07,824
Speaker 1: see more original scripts, but I don't think we'll get

464
00:21:07,824 --> 00:21:09,824
Speaker 1: them at the moment, at least if they come from

465
00:21:09,824 --> 00:21:11,904
Speaker 1: a book of like not still originally I do it

466
00:21:11,984 --> 00:21:14,824
Speaker 1: or something. But also we just want rom coms. And

467
00:21:14,864 --> 00:21:16,584
Speaker 1: I know that you and I talk about this all day,

468
00:21:16,584 --> 00:21:19,064
Speaker 1: and I guess we should be working is that all

469
00:21:19,104 --> 00:21:20,864
Speaker 1: people want to watch the moment is rom comms, and

470
00:21:20,944 --> 00:21:23,704
Speaker 1: nowhere is making good quality rom coms. Now they keep

471
00:21:23,784 --> 00:21:27,904
Speaker 1: marketing movies as rom comms, like Materialists and even maybe

472
00:21:28,024 --> 00:21:31,104
Speaker 1: like Splitsville and all these other shows Bold Beautiful Journey,

473
00:21:31,104 --> 00:21:33,344
Speaker 1: Big Well Beautiful Journey. Exactly, they're like, it's a rom com.

474
00:21:33,504 --> 00:21:36,024
Speaker 1: It's like, absolutely not a rom com. But it's almost

475
00:21:36,064 --> 00:21:38,784
Speaker 1: like they have to trick audiences into cinemas by telling

476
00:21:38,784 --> 00:21:40,384
Speaker 1: them it's one thing, and once they get in there

477
00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:42,624
Speaker 1: being like, it's actually a drama about this and this,

478
00:21:42,704 --> 00:21:45,264
Speaker 1: which is fine. But if you think people only want

479
00:21:45,264 --> 00:21:47,224
Speaker 1: to see rom cooms, make a rom com and also

480
00:21:47,264 --> 00:21:49,744
Speaker 1: don't trick people into spending thirty five dollars at this

481
00:21:49,784 --> 00:21:52,224
Speaker 1: cinner out and then being disappointed. That's why they hate

482
00:21:52,224 --> 00:21:54,744
Speaker 1: your movie. That's why they're reviewing it so badly, because

483
00:21:54,744 --> 00:21:56,544
Speaker 1: they thought that they were getting something out. I think

484
00:21:56,544 --> 00:21:58,824
Speaker 1: that's why people so many people didn't like Materialists, because

485
00:21:58,864 --> 00:22:00,984
Speaker 1: so many people, I guess they just still listen to

486
00:22:00,984 --> 00:22:02,984
Speaker 1: the spill in time is the when thinking it was

487
00:22:02,984 --> 00:22:04,664
Speaker 1: going to be a rom com and when it wasn't.

488
00:22:04,904 --> 00:22:07,104
Speaker 1: It's just like you can't even focus on the movie

489
00:22:07,144 --> 00:22:09,464
Speaker 1: you're watching because you're so jarred by what you you

490
00:22:09,464 --> 00:22:11,504
Speaker 1: feel like you've walked into the wrong cinema. Yeah, and

491
00:22:11,544 --> 00:22:14,024
Speaker 1: you and I loved Materialists. I love material I also

492
00:22:14,064 --> 00:22:15,984
Speaker 1: love because it felt like an old school kind of

493
00:22:16,064 --> 00:22:19,624
Speaker 1: romantic drama, that vibe of being like really serious or

494
00:22:19,664 --> 00:22:21,784
Speaker 1: like not super funny and rom comed but like a

495
00:22:21,864 --> 00:22:23,584
Speaker 1: rom com has to feel like that, and we're just

496
00:22:23,624 --> 00:22:25,664
Speaker 1: not getting them in cinemas and we're barely getting them

497
00:22:25,664 --> 00:22:27,384
Speaker 1: on streaming as well. Well, there's a lot on you

498
00:22:27,424 --> 00:22:29,904
Speaker 1: at the moment, like me Stone Jared Padilaki to save

499
00:22:29,944 --> 00:22:33,144
Speaker 1: the romcom genre. Yeah, no offense. We also meant no

500
00:22:33,224 --> 00:22:36,344
Speaker 1: pressure on that also hilarious. And Netflix comes out after

501
00:22:36,384 --> 00:22:37,824
Speaker 1: a record and be like, we're not doing it. We're

502
00:22:37,864 --> 00:22:39,824
Speaker 1: not doing But that would be okay because literally every

503
00:22:39,904 --> 00:22:41,424
Speaker 1: day at the moment when I opened my eyes, there

504
00:22:41,464 --> 00:22:45,024
Speaker 1: is another book to screen rom com adaptation and they're

505
00:22:45,064 --> 00:22:48,024
Speaker 1: all following your little formula that you've laid out. Yes,

506
00:22:48,064 --> 00:22:50,984
Speaker 1: it's very exciting. We will definitely be getting it. Happened

507
00:22:50,984 --> 00:22:53,344
Speaker 1: one Summer, which is based on a Tessa Bailey book,

508
00:22:53,384 --> 00:22:57,664
Speaker 1: and it's like, shit's creak slash smart. I don't know, Okay,

509
00:22:57,704 --> 00:23:00,784
Speaker 1: but it's got from the Vampire Diaries and it's got

510
00:23:00,784 --> 00:23:04,984
Speaker 1: Tyler Hoachland from Teen Wolf. So they are following Nicks

511
00:23:05,024 --> 00:23:07,944
Speaker 1: and Superman Superman. Oh, you got to mention Superman. But

512
00:23:08,104 --> 00:23:10,024
Speaker 1: I think we've nailed it here. This is the way forward.

513
00:23:10,104 --> 00:23:12,944
Speaker 1: What space. We'll let you know. Any other rumors regarding

514
00:23:12,984 --> 00:23:14,704
Speaker 1: rom comms, the rumor that no one cares about the

515
00:23:14,704 --> 00:23:19,184
Speaker 1: way you have spread, I'd like to spread. Stay tuned, Nana, Nana, Okay. Well,

516
00:23:19,224 --> 00:23:24,344
Speaker 1: speaking of nostalgia and drama and even Gossip Girl, I'm

517
00:23:24,344 --> 00:23:26,504
Speaker 1: gonna draw a straight line from Late Misa to Blake

518
00:23:26,544 --> 00:23:30,224
Speaker 1: Lively because Blake Lively has posted a carousel of images

519
00:23:30,264 --> 00:23:32,624
Speaker 1: on her Instagram account this week that has garnered a

520
00:23:32,664 --> 00:23:35,984
Speaker 1: lot of headlines, and it's a collection of photos from

521
00:23:36,024 --> 00:23:39,144
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of Gossip Girl, mainly from the first

522
00:23:39,224 --> 00:23:41,864
Speaker 1: year of production. So it's a lord of Blake with

523
00:23:41,944 --> 00:23:44,904
Speaker 1: the cast and crew. There's a photo from the very

524
00:23:44,944 --> 00:23:48,224
Speaker 1: famous the hundredth Anniversary where she did the Marilyn Monroe number.

525
00:23:48,504 --> 00:23:51,584
Speaker 1: There's photos of her shooting the Paris scenes with the crew.

526
00:23:52,104 --> 00:23:54,784
Speaker 1: There's lots of behind the scenes moments of her with

527
00:23:54,944 --> 00:23:57,504
Speaker 1: like Chase Crawford and Ed Westwick, her and aed A

528
00:23:57,624 --> 00:23:59,864
Speaker 1: doing at one stage like a post together and matching

529
00:23:59,864 --> 00:24:02,464
Speaker 1: white shorts. She and Chase are in a jumping castle

530
00:24:02,464 --> 00:24:05,584
Speaker 1: with balloons. I don't remember that episode. She's posted the

531
00:24:05,824 --> 00:24:08,304
Speaker 1: prom photo with Penn Badgeley when she's in the iconic

532
00:24:08,344 --> 00:24:10,904
Speaker 1: gold dress and that's when they were dating time. And

533
00:24:10,944 --> 00:24:13,624
Speaker 1: she's posted a photo from her own twenty first birthday,

534
00:24:13,864 --> 00:24:17,304
Speaker 1: yes with all the people right. There's photos of her

535
00:24:17,384 --> 00:24:20,144
Speaker 1: hugging late Mesta, And there's also a lot of photos

536
00:24:20,224 --> 00:24:22,664
Speaker 1: of Michelle Tratchenberg, which is really moving because she did

537
00:24:22,704 --> 00:24:24,744
Speaker 1: pass away this year. But a lot of them just

538
00:24:24,784 --> 00:24:27,824
Speaker 1: feel like a collection of crazy images of you know,

539
00:24:27,864 --> 00:24:29,104
Speaker 1: like when I don't know if you did this, but

540
00:24:29,184 --> 00:24:31,344
Speaker 1: like my early twenties, like going out with my friends

541
00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:32,704
Speaker 1: and stuff, and then the next day you would just

542
00:24:32,784 --> 00:24:36,744
Speaker 1: post like fifty photos to Instagram of like every single blurry,

543
00:24:36,944 --> 00:24:38,744
Speaker 1: crazy moment of the night, and a lot of it

544
00:24:38,784 --> 00:24:40,904
Speaker 1: is just you and your friend's pulling faces. It's got

545
00:24:40,904 --> 00:24:42,904
Speaker 1: that energy, yeah, like the energy of like when you're

546
00:24:42,944 --> 00:24:44,944
Speaker 1: moving house and you like go through all the photos

547
00:24:44,984 --> 00:24:46,344
Speaker 1: to see what you can get rid of and you

548
00:24:46,384 --> 00:24:48,624
Speaker 1: send them to all your mates. It's exactly but she

549
00:24:48,864 --> 00:24:52,824
Speaker 1: posted them instick Yeah exactly. It's very very uncurated behind

550
00:24:52,864 --> 00:24:55,104
Speaker 1: the scenes of gossip Girl, which we love. And then

551
00:24:55,144 --> 00:24:58,664
Speaker 1: the caption explains the huge photo dump of images where

552
00:24:58,744 --> 00:25:02,864
Speaker 1: she said the summer gossip Girl turned eighteen, because gossip

553
00:25:02,904 --> 00:25:06,544
Speaker 1: Girl is eighteen years old, crazy crazy, and yet I

554
00:25:06,584 --> 00:25:09,064
Speaker 1: am only twenty and I'm just a babe. Yeah, And

555
00:25:09,144 --> 00:25:11,424
Speaker 1: then she goes on to write underneath that this show

556
00:25:11,544 --> 00:25:14,744
Speaker 1: was my college. It was my education, my social life,

557
00:25:14,784 --> 00:25:18,304
Speaker 1: my hard work, my late nights and early mornings, my teacher.

558
00:25:18,864 --> 00:25:22,424
Speaker 1: New York City and Silver Cup Studios and sometimes Paris

559
00:25:22,864 --> 00:25:26,624
Speaker 1: were my campus for six years. So many memories. What

560
00:25:27,264 --> 00:25:29,864
Speaker 1: a decade. There's full stops, I think that's how she

561
00:25:29,864 --> 00:25:31,784
Speaker 1: wants us to say it. Then there's a little love

562
00:25:31,824 --> 00:25:35,864
Speaker 1: heart and she says, what a university. My initial thought

563
00:25:35,904 --> 00:25:38,344
Speaker 1: to this was I actually thought it was quite heartwarming,

564
00:25:38,424 --> 00:25:41,304
Speaker 1: because oh love Gossip Girl. I think it's a great show.

565
00:25:41,424 --> 00:25:43,584
Speaker 1: I've watched it many, many, many times. And she put

566
00:25:43,624 --> 00:25:46,144
Speaker 1: the Young Kid's song at the soundtrack to the post,

567
00:25:46,304 --> 00:25:49,784
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, which I also thought was like crazy nostalgic.

568
00:25:50,184 --> 00:25:52,184
Speaker 1: And I also just thought it was really lovely. How

569
00:25:52,224 --> 00:25:54,384
Speaker 1: all these celebrities because Adam Brodie is the same we

570
00:25:54,384 --> 00:25:56,464
Speaker 1: were talking about recently. All these celebrities are at a

571
00:25:56,504 --> 00:26:01,264
Speaker 1: point now where they're far enough removed from these shows

572
00:26:01,304 --> 00:26:04,304
Speaker 1: that made them so famous as young adults and that

573
00:26:04,344 --> 00:26:06,304
Speaker 1: they all tried to sort of get away from, and

574
00:26:06,344 --> 00:26:09,264
Speaker 1: they talked about not liking it. Because Blake Lively has

575
00:26:09,344 --> 00:26:12,344
Speaker 1: never talked overly positive about Gossip Girl, Like she doesn't

576
00:26:12,344 --> 00:26:14,624
Speaker 1: say heaps of terrible things about it, and I don't

577
00:26:14,624 --> 00:26:16,224
Speaker 1: think she had a bad time on set or anything

578
00:26:16,304 --> 00:26:18,584
Speaker 1: like that, but she has talked about the fact and

579
00:26:18,624 --> 00:26:21,144
Speaker 1: the producers have confirmed this that she didn't want to

580
00:26:21,184 --> 00:26:23,984
Speaker 1: be Serena vander Woodson. Her career and movies were taking

581
00:26:23,984 --> 00:26:26,064
Speaker 1: off and she wanted to be a movie star, and

582
00:26:26,144 --> 00:26:28,464
Speaker 1: the thought of locking herself in for five years on

583
00:26:28,504 --> 00:26:31,184
Speaker 1: a TV show that you didn't know how popular it

584
00:26:31,224 --> 00:26:32,744
Speaker 1: was going to be, but because of the contract you

585
00:26:32,784 --> 00:26:34,664
Speaker 1: could have just been locked into it for a long time.

586
00:26:35,064 --> 00:26:36,904
Speaker 1: She didn't want to do and it took a lot

587
00:26:36,904 --> 00:26:40,824
Speaker 1: of convincing, and then when Gossip Girl was finishing, she

588
00:26:40,904 --> 00:26:43,544
Speaker 1: tried to pick roles very different to that because she

589
00:26:43,704 --> 00:26:46,304
Speaker 1: thought Gossip Girl made her look like a very bad actress.

590
00:26:46,304 --> 00:26:48,904
Speaker 1: And whenever people said the character of Serena, and she'd say, well,

591
00:26:48,904 --> 00:26:51,584
Speaker 1: it's a caricature, it's not really a character. It's just

592
00:26:51,704 --> 00:26:54,384
Speaker 1: me kind of like playing the ideal of this person,

593
00:26:54,384 --> 00:26:56,664
Speaker 1: but she's not a real person, and like very that

594
00:26:56,824 --> 00:26:59,704
Speaker 1: side of it. So my first thought of seeing this

595
00:26:59,824 --> 00:27:02,664
Speaker 1: carousel was like, this is really lovely and nostalogy can

596
00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:04,024
Speaker 1: It made me want to go back and watch Gossip

597
00:27:04,064 --> 00:27:07,104
Speaker 1: Girls Season one for the fiftieth time. But then the

598
00:27:07,184 --> 00:27:10,824
Speaker 1: fallout from it has been crazy negative. Right, Yeah, so

599
00:27:10,904 --> 00:27:14,344
Speaker 1: the discourse has been absolutely nuts since she posted this.

600
00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:16,624
Speaker 1: So it has one point seven million likes, but Blake

601
00:27:16,784 --> 00:27:19,624
Speaker 1: obviously has comments turned off currently. Yeah, so there's not

602
00:27:19,624 --> 00:27:21,264
Speaker 1: a lot of comments on her post, but so that

603
00:27:21,304 --> 00:27:24,184
Speaker 1: means it obviously everyone's taken. There's many, many feelings, bottled

604
00:27:24,224 --> 00:27:26,464
Speaker 1: them up and like gone over to TikTok to share

605
00:27:26,464 --> 00:27:29,544
Speaker 1: them all. One theory that was kicking around about the

606
00:27:29,584 --> 00:27:31,824
Speaker 1: reason that she's posted these not because like God forbid,

607
00:27:31,864 --> 00:27:34,424
Speaker 1: it's the eighteenth anniversary and she just wanted to celebrate

608
00:27:34,424 --> 00:27:36,624
Speaker 1: this thing that means something to her. But people were like,

609
00:27:36,744 --> 00:27:39,024
Speaker 1: this means her and Ryan Reynolds getting divorced. I saw

610
00:27:39,064 --> 00:27:42,904
Speaker 1: everyone saying that and it's not very often these circumstances

611
00:27:42,944 --> 00:27:45,464
Speaker 1: I can one hundred percent say that something isn't true. Yeah,

612
00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:46,664
Speaker 1: but I'm going to go out in the leg and

613
00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,144
Speaker 1: say I just don't think that's I think that's true.

614
00:27:49,184 --> 00:27:51,544
Speaker 1: People were like, she's found these photos, and she's like

615
00:27:51,584 --> 00:27:54,704
Speaker 1: spiraling and wanting attention, and so like she's getting divorced,

616
00:27:54,744 --> 00:27:57,224
Speaker 1: and so she found the photos in divorcing and moving home.

617
00:27:57,304 --> 00:27:59,104
Speaker 1: First of all, I think Blake Lively has someone who

618
00:27:59,144 --> 00:28:01,144
Speaker 1: can pack up her own home for her. Yeah, the

619
00:28:01,184 --> 00:28:03,224
Speaker 1: event that that happened, I don't think Blake Lively was

620
00:28:03,224 --> 00:28:06,544
Speaker 1: going through old photo boxes and pulling out photos during

621
00:28:06,544 --> 00:28:10,064
Speaker 1: her divorce. That's moving those boxes from one mansion to another.

622
00:28:10,344 --> 00:28:12,384
Speaker 1: I know. People have really really made a story here.

623
00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:14,704
Speaker 1: So one was that they think that Brian Reynolds and

624
00:28:14,784 --> 00:28:17,944
Speaker 1: Blake Lively are done. So yeah, yeah, what ones have

625
00:28:17,984 --> 00:28:20,344
Speaker 1: you seen? I've seen all the divorce ones. I've also

626
00:28:20,424 --> 00:28:22,584
Speaker 1: seen that it's a bit of a desperate cry for help.

627
00:28:22,864 --> 00:28:24,704
Speaker 1: This one. I don't think it's a desperate cry for help.

628
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Speaker 1: But I do think there's something in Obviously, she's had

629
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Speaker 1: to be so careful about what she posts since the

630
00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:35,304
Speaker 1: whole fallout from it ends with us. From the press

631
00:28:35,384 --> 00:28:38,424
Speaker 1: tour of that movie, where people just turned against her,

632
00:28:38,744 --> 00:28:41,104
Speaker 1: it felt like the world turned against her and hated her.

633
00:28:41,464 --> 00:28:44,824
Speaker 1: Then the story came out about her allegations toward Justin Baldoni,

634
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:47,584
Speaker 1: and then watching the back and forth and the court

635
00:28:47,624 --> 00:28:50,744
Speaker 1: proceedings and everything it's been released since then, some people

636
00:28:50,744 --> 00:28:52,424
Speaker 1: have come to her side, but there's still a lot

637
00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:55,424
Speaker 1: of people in the world who think she's absolutely pure evil. Yeah,

638
00:28:55,464 --> 00:28:58,184
Speaker 1: and I think not just sort of psychoanalyze Blake Lively,

639
00:28:58,264 --> 00:29:00,344
Speaker 1: Yet here we are. I do think there's a sense

640
00:29:00,384 --> 00:29:02,824
Speaker 1: of if it was me, that would be a sense of, Hey,

641
00:29:02,864 --> 00:29:04,744
Speaker 1: remember when you guys just loved the TV show I

642
00:29:04,824 --> 00:29:06,704
Speaker 1: was on. Everyone thought I had great hair and like,

643
00:29:06,744 --> 00:29:08,704
Speaker 1: because people did love her for such a long time

644
00:29:08,864 --> 00:29:10,864
Speaker 1: they did. And I mean, I don't know if she's

645
00:29:10,864 --> 00:29:12,264
Speaker 1: a good person or not. I've even't met the woman,

646
00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:15,384
Speaker 1: but I do think it was posting from a time

647
00:29:15,464 --> 00:29:17,944
Speaker 1: when things maybe seemed a bit simpler because she was

648
00:29:17,984 --> 00:29:19,904
Speaker 1: on a TV show that people loved, and people loved

649
00:29:19,904 --> 00:29:22,024
Speaker 1: how she dressed, and they loved her character, and they

650
00:29:22,064 --> 00:29:23,704
Speaker 1: loved when she did press to it, and they loved

651
00:29:23,704 --> 00:29:25,424
Speaker 1: her outfits, and she was the queen of them at

652
00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:27,864
Speaker 1: ball and people loved her and Ryan Reynolds. They were

653
00:29:27,864 --> 00:29:29,384
Speaker 1: like the ideal couple, and I think it was like

654
00:29:29,424 --> 00:29:32,304
Speaker 1: a throwback to that time. But I also think I've

655
00:29:32,304 --> 00:29:34,264
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people comment that they think it's

656
00:29:34,304 --> 00:29:36,824
Speaker 1: her trying to like claw her way back into popularity,

657
00:29:36,864 --> 00:29:39,024
Speaker 1: and it's her way of trying to claw her way

658
00:29:39,024 --> 00:29:42,104
Speaker 1: back into the lives of her Gossip Girl co stars,

659
00:29:42,424 --> 00:29:45,704
Speaker 1: because there's this idea that they've all kind of turned

660
00:29:45,704 --> 00:29:47,944
Speaker 1: against her and want to be away from her, which

661
00:29:47,984 --> 00:29:50,584
Speaker 1: again I don't see any kind of truth in, but

662
00:29:51,144 --> 00:29:53,384
Speaker 1: it was interesting. She had a birthday a few months

663
00:29:53,424 --> 00:29:55,184
Speaker 1: ago and it was the first time she'd posted in

664
00:29:55,184 --> 00:29:57,624
Speaker 1: a really long time, and she was just reposting everyone's

665
00:29:57,624 --> 00:30:01,024
Speaker 1: birthday wishes, and a lot of it was her sisterhood

666
00:30:01,024 --> 00:30:03,824
Speaker 1: of the Traveling Pants Coastars, so she's very close with still,

667
00:30:04,144 --> 00:30:06,864
Speaker 1: most notably Amber Tamblin that it was a few other friends,

668
00:30:07,184 --> 00:30:09,184
Speaker 1: but everyone was like, why does no one from Gossip

669
00:30:09,184 --> 00:30:12,424
Speaker 1: Girl or publicly acknowledge anyway. Yeah, I think that's interesting

670
00:30:12,504 --> 00:30:16,024
Speaker 1: because a big part of I guess the fallout last

671
00:30:16,104 --> 00:30:18,304
Speaker 1: year from the it Ends with Us stuff long before

672
00:30:18,504 --> 00:30:21,224
Speaker 1: the lawsuits had happened. Was people drudging up this idea

673
00:30:21,224 --> 00:30:23,264
Speaker 1: that Blake Clavely and Layton Mester had had a big

674
00:30:23,304 --> 00:30:25,744
Speaker 1: feud on Gossip Girl, and people were pulling up old

675
00:30:25,784 --> 00:30:27,744
Speaker 1: clips where like Blake might say a joke and it

676
00:30:27,784 --> 00:30:30,704
Speaker 1: didn't land and people didn't laugh, but often Layton would

677
00:30:30,744 --> 00:30:32,664
Speaker 1: laugh in the clip. But people really started to spin

678
00:30:32,744 --> 00:30:35,504
Speaker 1: this story that they had like actively hated each other

679
00:30:35,504 --> 00:30:37,704
Speaker 1: and they'd been bullying involved. But to the point where

680
00:30:37,744 --> 00:30:39,424
Speaker 1: like people had to go back and look at interviews

681
00:30:39,424 --> 00:30:42,664
Speaker 1: they've given over the years. They've addressed this so many times,

682
00:30:42,664 --> 00:30:45,664
Speaker 1: and they've essentially just said we're coworkers and we're nothing more.

683
00:30:46,064 --> 00:30:48,104
Speaker 1: But I kind of think that what she's done here

684
00:30:48,144 --> 00:30:50,064
Speaker 1: is sort of what you're saying. She knows the anniversary

685
00:30:50,104 --> 00:30:51,784
Speaker 1: is coming up. Every time the anniversary of one of

686
00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:54,424
Speaker 1: these nostalgic shows comes up, like every publication in the

687
00:30:54,464 --> 00:30:58,344
Speaker 1: world does a carousel and memes and videos going anniversary,

688
00:30:58,584 --> 00:30:59,944
Speaker 1: and she knows that's going to happen and people are

689
00:30:59,944 --> 00:31:01,744
Speaker 1: going to be talking about it. So maybe she kind

690
00:31:01,744 --> 00:31:04,704
Speaker 1: of wanted to be like, I'm celebrating this and look

691
00:31:04,744 --> 00:31:06,904
Speaker 1: how nice and friendly we all were, and there's no

692
00:31:07,024 --> 00:31:09,384
Speaker 1: bad blood here because she knows, like you said that

693
00:31:09,464 --> 00:31:11,544
Speaker 1: on her birthday, on these big events, when no one

694
00:31:11,584 --> 00:31:14,424
Speaker 1: tags her in anything, when no one talks about her,

695
00:31:14,584 --> 00:31:16,944
Speaker 1: it becomes this big, awkward talking point. So maybe she

696
00:31:17,064 --> 00:31:19,144
Speaker 1: just wanted to be seen to be like engaging and

697
00:31:19,224 --> 00:31:22,544
Speaker 1: showing that like this was her university, as she says,

698
00:31:22,584 --> 00:31:24,344
Speaker 1: like she had fun here, but she might not be

699
00:31:24,384 --> 00:31:26,264
Speaker 1: friends with these people anymore. Yeah, I think that was

700
00:31:26,304 --> 00:31:28,664
Speaker 1: the very clear subtext around it. And again, in any

701
00:31:28,704 --> 00:31:30,064
Speaker 1: other day, it would just be like, here are all

702
00:31:30,104 --> 00:31:33,104
Speaker 1: these unseen behind the scenes foos a Gossip Girl and

703
00:31:33,144 --> 00:31:35,304
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, there's one of her and Layton hugging.

704
00:31:35,584 --> 00:31:37,944
Speaker 1: There's her and Chase hugging, and her and Ed and

705
00:31:38,344 --> 00:31:40,624
Speaker 1: like it does make it look like it was the

706
00:31:40,704 --> 00:31:43,424
Speaker 1: loveliest experience in the world, which is a side that

707
00:31:43,464 --> 00:31:45,464
Speaker 1: we don't really see from most of the Gossip Girl

708
00:31:45,504 --> 00:31:48,304
Speaker 1: cast looking back on the show. But it's interesting how

709
00:31:48,424 --> 00:31:51,784
Speaker 1: Layton became such a big figure in the Justin Baldoni

710
00:31:51,904 --> 00:31:56,104
Speaker 1: verse Blake Lively situation because people were using as she

711
00:31:56,224 --> 00:31:59,704
Speaker 1: was saying, using clips from them from like eighteen years

712
00:31:59,744 --> 00:32:02,304
Speaker 1: ago and saying, look, Blake Lively has always been a

713
00:32:02,304 --> 00:32:04,464
Speaker 1: bad person, where a lot of the clips of them

714
00:32:04,544 --> 00:32:06,384
Speaker 1: just like having a little back and forth on stage

715
00:32:06,384 --> 00:32:09,984
Speaker 1: and laughing, and they've always said we were like friendly coworkers,

716
00:32:10,384 --> 00:32:13,024
Speaker 1: didn't hang out together, And they both addressed it at

717
00:32:13,024 --> 00:32:15,384
Speaker 1: the time where like Layton compared them to like George

718
00:32:15,384 --> 00:32:17,384
Speaker 1: Clooney and Brad Pitt. I was like, Okay, Lake, yeah,

719
00:32:17,424 --> 00:32:19,904
Speaker 1: you two Gossip Girl stars are at that level. Yeah,

720
00:32:20,064 --> 00:32:22,224
Speaker 1: I stand by George Clooney and Brad Pitt hang out

721
00:32:22,224 --> 00:32:25,024
Speaker 1: more than most to it. But she was kind of

722
00:32:25,024 --> 00:32:27,344
Speaker 1: talking about like how she'd seen all these headlines about

723
00:32:27,384 --> 00:32:29,464
Speaker 1: you know, actors like Natalie Portman and Scarlet Johansson on

724
00:32:29,504 --> 00:32:31,304
Speaker 1: the set of The Other Bowling Girl, and she compared

725
00:32:31,304 --> 00:32:32,904
Speaker 1: them to that, being like, why do you guys always

726
00:32:32,904 --> 00:32:35,384
Speaker 1: say women are feuding white never say the men are feuding,

727
00:32:35,504 --> 00:32:37,824
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy. But there was a time where there

728
00:32:37,864 --> 00:32:40,664
Speaker 1: were reports that like Layton's wardrobe budget was increased and

729
00:32:40,704 --> 00:32:43,584
Speaker 1: then Blake's having success in feature films and it's causing

730
00:32:43,624 --> 00:32:47,064
Speaker 1: all this tension on set. And Blake's publicist actually came

731
00:32:47,104 --> 00:32:49,144
Speaker 1: out and said Blake and Layton have never been best

732
00:32:49,144 --> 00:32:51,544
Speaker 1: friends and never profess to be. Blake goes to work,

733
00:32:51,624 --> 00:32:54,344
Speaker 1: does her job and goes home like they were releasing

734
00:32:54,384 --> 00:32:56,424
Speaker 1: statements like that at the time. That is a crazy

735
00:32:56,424 --> 00:32:58,904
Speaker 1: stay crazy to put out there, because it's not squashing

736
00:32:58,904 --> 00:33:01,584
Speaker 1: any fires. If anything, it was heightening the fire. But

737
00:33:01,624 --> 00:33:03,504
Speaker 1: I also get it. You don't have to be best

738
00:33:03,544 --> 00:33:09,624
Speaker 1: friends with your coworker. Yeah, but people expect, no, you're

739
00:33:09,624 --> 00:33:11,104
Speaker 1: my best friend to say it all the time. I

740
00:33:11,144 --> 00:33:12,744
Speaker 1: don't think that's true because the other day I asked

741
00:33:12,744 --> 00:33:13,984
Speaker 1: you to come to an event with me, and you said,

742
00:33:14,024 --> 00:33:15,864
Speaker 1: don't you want to take a friend? And I really

743
00:33:15,904 --> 00:33:17,824
Speaker 1: think that in my bones because I feel like I

744
00:33:17,864 --> 00:33:21,344
Speaker 1: follow you everywhere. Okay, we're no Latin and Blake say

745
00:33:21,344 --> 00:33:23,424
Speaker 1: we're the Layton and Blake of this offics apparently start

746
00:33:23,424 --> 00:33:26,104
Speaker 1: a rumor. The thing is, I also find it very

747
00:33:26,184 --> 00:33:29,144
Speaker 1: reasonable and not at all scandalous that in the six

748
00:33:29,224 --> 00:33:32,184
Speaker 1: years that show was on air that there were feuds

749
00:33:32,224 --> 00:33:34,544
Speaker 1: and issues behind the scenes. And that happens in a

750
00:33:34,544 --> 00:33:37,384
Speaker 1: normal workplace, So why wouldn't it happen on a TV

751
00:33:37,504 --> 00:33:40,584
Speaker 1: show where they're working like fifteen hours a day and

752
00:33:40,584 --> 00:33:42,344
Speaker 1: then you have all the fame throwing in and they're

753
00:33:42,384 --> 00:33:44,584
Speaker 1: really young, Like, yes, they would have had fights, of course,

754
00:33:44,704 --> 00:33:46,584
Speaker 1: would have and I just didn't get on that. Yeah,

755
00:33:46,584 --> 00:33:48,784
Speaker 1: that's fine, and that adds to I think the lore

756
00:33:48,824 --> 00:33:50,784
Speaker 1: of the show, and I love that. But then this

757
00:33:50,824 --> 00:33:53,504
Speaker 1: whole thing started with, Oh, she hasn't tagged anyone. No

758
00:33:53,544 --> 00:33:57,224
Speaker 1: one's tagged her, Chase Crawford, you were saying he liked it.

759
00:33:57,264 --> 00:34:02,584
Speaker 1: Soford liked it. Chase is like everyone's gossip girl, Like

760
00:34:02,744 --> 00:34:04,864
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll give it a like. But she didn't

761
00:34:04,904 --> 00:34:07,504
Speaker 1: tag anyone. I think she just knows if she does anything,

762
00:34:07,624 --> 00:34:10,304
Speaker 1: Like she's even posting this is like lighting a match

763
00:34:10,384 --> 00:34:12,864
Speaker 1: and chucking it away. Well, I just like anyone also

764
00:34:12,864 --> 00:34:14,904
Speaker 1: on the public eye except her sort of core group

765
00:34:14,944 --> 00:34:17,704
Speaker 1: of friends, like her family, the sister of the Traveling

766
00:34:17,744 --> 00:34:20,624
Speaker 1: Pants girls on right, anyone else is very hesitant to

767
00:34:20,664 --> 00:34:23,104
Speaker 1: weigh in in any way. Yeah, and I kind of understand.

768
00:34:23,144 --> 00:34:24,984
Speaker 1: I mean, this has only just happened as a recording,

769
00:34:24,984 --> 00:34:26,344
Speaker 1: so I don't know the truth of it. But even

770
00:34:26,424 --> 00:34:29,824
Speaker 1: today there's a report that a man was arrested trying

771
00:34:29,824 --> 00:34:33,664
Speaker 1: to get into Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's home because

772
00:34:33,744 --> 00:34:37,264
Speaker 1: he was trying to serve Taylor Swift with legal papers,

773
00:34:37,384 --> 00:34:40,584
Speaker 1: trespassed on property at like two am or am and

774
00:34:40,584 --> 00:34:43,424
Speaker 1: it's putting him climbing into Travis Kelsey's home where they're

775
00:34:43,424 --> 00:34:45,824
Speaker 1: like reportedly living at the moment, and like the engagement

776
00:34:45,904 --> 00:34:48,584
Speaker 1: flowers are all set up there and all the arbors

777
00:34:48,584 --> 00:34:50,544
Speaker 1: are still there because that those flowers cost millions of

778
00:34:50,584 --> 00:34:52,264
Speaker 1: dollars and he's having to climb over them trying to

779
00:34:52,264 --> 00:34:54,424
Speaker 1: get to Taylor Swift. And she looks out the window

780
00:34:54,424 --> 00:34:56,824
Speaker 1: where she's making her sourdough bread and she sees a

781
00:34:56,864 --> 00:34:59,544
Speaker 1: strange man in the backyard. And I'm only making this up.

782
00:34:59,544 --> 00:35:00,984
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened, but I'm just saying.

783
00:35:01,024 --> 00:35:04,304
Speaker 1: The report is today that yeah, he was arrested getting

784
00:35:04,304 --> 00:35:06,944
Speaker 1: into the house, but to serve her legal papers allegedly

785
00:35:06,944 --> 00:35:09,824
Speaker 1: as a story from Justin Baldonia's team, so that she

786
00:35:09,904 --> 00:35:13,064
Speaker 1: has to to fight in the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni case.

787
00:35:13,064 --> 00:35:15,104
Speaker 1: And that's already gone back and forth so many times

788
00:35:15,104 --> 00:35:16,824
Speaker 1: with the judge being like, Nope, she doesn't have to come,

789
00:35:16,864 --> 00:35:19,704
Speaker 1: and they keep like it is a circus to every

790
00:35:19,744 --> 00:35:21,824
Speaker 1: extent of the word. This is a celebrity circus. And

791
00:35:21,864 --> 00:35:23,824
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we all have our thoughts and

792
00:35:23,824 --> 00:35:25,824
Speaker 1: opinions on it. When you talk about them till the

793
00:35:25,904 --> 00:35:27,664
Speaker 1: end of time. But I think where Blake's come in

794
00:35:27,704 --> 00:35:30,464
Speaker 1: here is like, as you said, a lot of celebs

795
00:35:30,464 --> 00:35:32,224
Speaker 1: aren't willing to engage with her content at the moment.

796
00:35:32,224 --> 00:35:33,704
Speaker 1: I don't think she was going to tag the cast

797
00:35:33,704 --> 00:35:36,344
Speaker 1: and risk running headlines even though they're already happening going.

798
00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:38,544
Speaker 1: No one liked her posts, no one shared her posts,

799
00:35:38,544 --> 00:35:40,424
Speaker 1: no one commented on it, so they all hate her.

800
00:35:40,744 --> 00:35:43,104
Speaker 1: But she also wanted to engage and be like I

801
00:35:43,144 --> 00:35:45,264
Speaker 1: love this show, yeah, look at it, and yes, obviously

802
00:35:45,384 --> 00:35:49,344
Speaker 1: like she wants to share something nice about herself, knowing

803
00:35:49,384 --> 00:35:51,544
Speaker 1: that the bad headlines are still coming no matter what

804
00:35:51,624 --> 00:35:53,504
Speaker 1: she does. And to be honest, I just don't think

805
00:35:53,544 --> 00:35:55,744
Speaker 1: there's anything she could have posted on this day that

806
00:35:55,784 --> 00:35:58,344
Speaker 1: would make people like or dislike her. I feel like

807
00:35:58,384 --> 00:36:01,304
Speaker 1: everyone's picked aside. And I also don't think this means

808
00:36:01,304 --> 00:36:04,104
Speaker 1: that anyone in the Gossip Girl cast has like we know,

809
00:36:04,264 --> 00:36:07,064
Speaker 1: she and Penn Badgeley are like on quite good terms.

810
00:36:07,224 --> 00:36:08,984
Speaker 1: They're both like married to other people with kids, not

811
00:36:09,064 --> 00:36:12,104
Speaker 1: that stops you from being like a person, but they

812
00:36:12,624 --> 00:36:15,184
Speaker 1: continued working together long after they've broken up and spoke

813
00:36:15,224 --> 00:36:17,104
Speaker 1: a lot about how they were fine and so everyone

814
00:36:17,144 --> 00:36:19,584
Speaker 1: thinks that's kind of fine. Her and Layton. I think

815
00:36:19,584 --> 00:36:21,424
Speaker 1: people would love to see more of them together. I

816
00:36:21,424 --> 00:36:23,264
Speaker 1: don't ever see that kind of happening, even though they're

817
00:36:23,264 --> 00:36:25,784
Speaker 1: both in the industry and they must. Once Blake starts

818
00:36:25,824 --> 00:36:28,304
Speaker 1: going back to those events, they must kind of crossover.

819
00:36:28,504 --> 00:36:30,784
Speaker 1: But I think Layton goes to more kind of like

820
00:36:31,024 --> 00:36:34,064
Speaker 1: industry awards stuff, and then Blake goes to a bit

821
00:36:34,104 --> 00:36:36,024
Speaker 1: more of the fashiony stuff for New York, So maybe

822
00:36:36,024 --> 00:36:39,024
Speaker 1: they haven't crossed over. Yeah, And then every not everyone

823
00:36:39,024 --> 00:36:42,104
Speaker 1: in the cast engages with Ed Westwick, Kelly Is, Kelly

824
00:36:42,184 --> 00:36:46,144
Speaker 1: Rutherford heavily engages with Ed Westwich, and Chase Crawford was

825
00:36:46,184 --> 00:36:49,264
Speaker 1: also at his wedding. Yes, they all was his wedding. Yes,

826
00:36:49,864 --> 00:36:53,784
Speaker 1: So for anyone who doesn't know, Ed Westwick was accused

827
00:36:53,824 --> 00:36:56,104
Speaker 1: of rape and sexual assault. He did not face any

828
00:36:56,184 --> 00:36:58,984
Speaker 1: charges because of insufficient evidence, but there were a number

829
00:36:59,064 --> 00:37:02,184
Speaker 1: of different women who came forward about it, and I

830
00:37:02,224 --> 00:37:05,024
Speaker 1: think that has really colored a lot of the Gold

831
00:37:05,064 --> 00:37:07,424
Speaker 1: commentary too, because now in any of the stars post

832
00:37:07,504 --> 00:37:10,464
Speaker 1: throwback photos, and I think that there's many reasons why

833
00:37:10,504 --> 00:37:12,304
Speaker 1: Blake has turned the comments off. But I think other

834
00:37:12,304 --> 00:37:14,864
Speaker 1: people in the past have turned comments off. Is that

835
00:37:14,864 --> 00:37:16,944
Speaker 1: that becomes a big thing in the comments of people

836
00:37:16,944 --> 00:37:18,864
Speaker 1: being like, how could you support him? How could you

837
00:37:18,864 --> 00:37:20,424
Speaker 1: go to his wedding? How could you do this? Why

838
00:37:20,424 --> 00:37:22,744
Speaker 1: aren't and if you say anything about it, that becomes

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Speaker 1: a big thing. You know who the interesting thing is

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Speaker 1: who seems to be the most level headed and at

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Speaker 1: peace with the show is Taylor Moms who played Jenny Humphrey. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and so Jenny the character obviously went off the rails

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Speaker 1: towards the end of Gossip Girl, but that happened because

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Speaker 1: Taylor in real life, the stories of her onset that

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Speaker 1: she would She wanted to focus on her band. She

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Speaker 1: didn't want to be on the show anymore. Apparently, she

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Speaker 1: would come in hours late, she wouldn't say her lines,

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Speaker 1: Guest stars would complain about her and not want to

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Speaker 1: work with her. The cast would not want to work

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Speaker 1: with her, so they wrote her out of the show

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Speaker 1: to release her. And now she's an incredibly successful musician

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00:37:56,664 --> 00:37:58,624
Speaker 1: and she has been walking a lot of red carpets

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Speaker 1: lately talking about how much she appreciates the world of

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Speaker 1: Gossip Girl. She appreciates the fans she loves and people

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00:38:04,584 --> 00:38:06,544
Speaker 1: come up to her and say they love Gossip Girl

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Speaker 1: because she's like just very at peace and happy with it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, out of all that, of all of them,

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Speaker 1: Jenny Humphrey, the most kind of is the okay the

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Speaker 1: Gossip Girl mentioned. Yeah, and do you know what I

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Speaker 1: love when that happened, And I mean she was young.

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Speaker 1: Young people do stupid shit. But when that happened, all

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Speaker 1: the angles, all the hot takes were like, this girl's

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Speaker 1: ruined her career. She's ruined it. Cindy lu who from

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Speaker 1: the grin, She's over, she's done. She's still in the

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Speaker 1: band she left the show to be, She's still doing

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Speaker 1: the big black eyeliner, she still has the plot hold

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Speaker 1: that she's really cheated the look. A decade later, still

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Speaker 1: the exact same girl that she was, and the only

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Speaker 1: one who seems genuinely happy to talk about Gossip Girl

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Speaker 1: while also being at the VMA's nominated and being successful

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Speaker 1: in her own right. So you know what, good on you, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: We love that? Who love that? The true star of

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Speaker 1: Gossip Girl? Yeah, Humphrey, exactly. She was so real and

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00:38:53,384 --> 00:38:55,664
Speaker 1: she was like, I just want to go to fashion school,

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Speaker 1: but like in real life, she wanted to go play

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Speaker 1: music and she did well. I had. What everyone's taken

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00:39:00,264 --> 00:39:01,904
Speaker 1: away from this is that we just all need to

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Speaker 1: go back and watch the OG Gossip Girl, Yes, because

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00:39:05,224 --> 00:39:08,424
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, it's weird. Those people are crazy. We were

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00:39:08,424 --> 00:39:09,904
Speaker 1: trying to explain it to one of the youths in

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00:39:09,944 --> 00:39:12,184
Speaker 1: the office because she's only seen The Summer I Turn Pretty,

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00:39:12,304 --> 00:39:14,104
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, my god, this show

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Speaker 1: the kids to love you just watching the Summer I

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Speaker 1: Turn Pretty and that's the first like proper teen show.

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Speaker 1: They have washed them. You guys don't know. They're like,

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00:39:20,624 --> 00:39:22,344
Speaker 1: what team were you want? I was like, it's impossible

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Speaker 1: to say it was a love hexagon. Who knows? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just like things happen that you guys can't even

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Speaker 1: conceive of in our shows. I think that's the real takeaway. Also,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Blake Lively is going to be carefully posting

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Speaker 1: until next year because it's hard to think of it now,

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Speaker 1: But the first official kind of court date for Blake

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Speaker 1: Lively and Jospelldoni is still going to be early next

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Speaker 1: year when things kick off. At the moment, they're still

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Speaker 1: in depositions and evidence gathering everything, so she has a

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Speaker 1: long road ahead of her. But I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: go and say that I appreciated her carousel. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a lovely post. Well. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Spill, Shay and to Tina for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Love your insights, and if you love the Spill,

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Speaker 1: please make sure you're rating, reviewing, and subscribing. Please leave

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Speaker 1: us a review on Apple and on Spotify. I have

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Speaker 1: to tell you, guys, I read every single review personally

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Speaker 1: on Apple and Spotify. So if there's something you want

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Speaker 1: to see in the show, something you want more of,

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Speaker 1: something you want less of, I'll definitely see it. So

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Speaker 1: that is your place to send feedback and we will

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Speaker 1: see you back here on your podcast feed at eight

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Speaker 1: am tomorrow for Morning Tea with Ash London. Bye bye