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Speaker 2: Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm

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Speaker 2: Laura Brodneck and today in the Hot Seed is.

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Speaker 1: Mansia Is Warren jumping out of my producer little box

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a huge moment for the Spill because

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Speaker 2: you guys would know Mansha's voice and her face and

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Speaker 2: everything because she is the executive producer of the Spill,

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Speaker 2: issues you have with the pod. But you're jumping into

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Speaker 2: Weekend Watch today because you have actually seen one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest movies of the year and I haven't, So

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Speaker 3: I have. I'm very excited to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I think I actually declared to you that it's my

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Speaker 1: favorite new movie that I've seen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, huge call, huge call, and I was like, say

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Speaker 3: no more.

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Speaker 2: Say it for the pod. So if you're near here,

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Speaker 2: we can watch is our weekly episode where we talk

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Speaker 2: about the best new TV shows and movies that have

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Speaker 2: just come out this week, because we get to see

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Speaker 2: can make an educated decision of what to watch on

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Speaker 2: the weekend. So I'm going to start off with a

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Speaker 2: recommendation of a show that just came out yesterday the

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Speaker 2: first few episodes, and the stakes were very high with

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Speaker 2: this one because it is the spin off and a

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Speaker 2: sort of continuation reboot of one of the most iconic

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Speaker 2: comedy TV shows in the world, The Office.

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Speaker 3: I actually have a confession to make.

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Speaker 2: I can I just tell you I knew this is

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Speaker 3: I want to preface it by saying that there's nothing.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing I could say.

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Speaker 1: I know I've been told off throughout my life for

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I know we don't spore Chris Brown, but

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Speaker 1: I just want to recreate that wedding moment at my wedding,

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Speaker 1: and I had that in a Hinge and the number

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Speaker 1: of Office fanatics I get on Hinge being like, the

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Speaker 1: audacity of you to have this prompt when you have

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Speaker 3: They hate me and it hasn't gone well for my

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Speaker 2: So much do you want back there? First of all,

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Speaker 2: I hate you for making me say this, but the

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Speaker 2: men are correct. You're the wrong one here, and I.

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Speaker 3: Hate the men are correct. The men are right.

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Speaker 2: So wait, let's just let's not escape past this anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: So on your Hinge profile, you just quote something from

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Speaker 1: It's something about let's get on the same page about

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Speaker 1: dancing to forever at our wedding because I love that scene.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm in the zegeist. I'm in the No,

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Speaker 2: And now it's too Do you haven't your Hinge profile

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Speaker 3: I come up in the It comes up when I

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Speaker 2: So you're like cat fishing these heads because they think

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Speaker 1: This has turned into an expose.

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Speaker 3: But maybe this new show.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe this new show's my way in. I mean,

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Speaker 2: And watch the original Office first before you did this.

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Speaker 1: Used on TikTok all over right, dog feed is still rundom.

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Speaker 2: I think when they were doing like the press for this,

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Speaker 2: this show ended in twenty thirteen, Like that is a

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Speaker 2: So the good news for fans of the Office, of

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Speaker 3: Is that potential shaming that's about you brought it up.

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Speaker 2: You could have just said I haven't seen it. I

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Speaker 3: Which is a whole situation. The problem is me.

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Speaker 2: So this new show, the Paper, which came out in

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Speaker 4: Show and of eight sales products made out of paper,

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Speaker 4: toilet tissue, toilet seat protectors, and local newspapers.

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Speaker 1: And that is in order of quality.

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Speaker 5: My name is Ned Samson. I am your new editor

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Speaker 3: Have you read this paper?

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 1: How do you think it compares to any other paper?

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Speaker 5: We are going to make it better. I hope it's

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, don't be So that's that's a gazing.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, volunteers to your first staff meeting as reporters for

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Speaker 5: the Toledo truth Teller. How many of you have actually

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Speaker 3: I run a paper in junior high.

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Speaker 5: Not quite the same thing you've tweeted.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a group text.

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Speaker 5: This is terrific. Seven highly motivated, tenacious buck eyes are

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Speaker 3: I will make this unusable use that.

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Speaker 2: So it's set in Ohio and the same documentary crew,

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Speaker 2: because if you've seen the Office, it's about this documentary crew.

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Speaker 2: It's filmed as a documentary. They come into this like

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Speaker 2: very similar vibe. So it takes place at this very

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Speaker 2: back because we have Ned Samson, who's the new editor

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Speaker 2: in chief of the Toledo truth Teller, played by John Olgileeson.

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Speaker 2: Do you do.

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Speaker 4: You do it?

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Speaker 2: Recognize him? Like I guess people know him from iconic

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Speaker 2: so he plays Ned. And the other really good bit

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Speaker 2: of casting is that Sabrina Imbacatory. I never say her

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Speaker 2: Valentina in the second season of The White Lotus.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I don't think I could trust any more.

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Speaker 3: It's a TV, it's a flower, it's a show.

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Speaker 2: So she plays Valentina in season two and she was

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Speaker 2: she plays es Morelda Grand, a writer at the paper

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Speaker 2: the whole show is this mockumentary crew following these people

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Speaker 2: and resurrect the Paper. And it's done by Greg Daniels,

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Speaker 2: who did the original Office. So it's got that same

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Speaker 1: Okay, And I was gonna ask you, is it one

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Speaker 2: I think if they tried to recreate The Office or

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Speaker 2: you'd really love the Paper. But just come into it

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Speaker 2: Like you've got to watch it as its own show.

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Speaker 2: But in saying that, there are some surprises, especially in

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna be one of those ones

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Speaker 2: people get really protective of their family shay. Yeah. Well again,

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Speaker 2: I think because they've created a whole new world with

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Speaker 2: situation with sex and the City and just like that fans,

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Speaker 2: which you know, they're not bringing back all the same

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff to have new stories like and

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Speaker 2: you can also go into so for people like you, you

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Speaker 2: can also go into it not watching The Office, okay,

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Speaker 2: because there's a few little callbacks to it, but you

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Speaker 2: go in with completely fresh eyes.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, maybe i'll toss that up this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Do I start first? Please watch The Office?

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Speaker 1: First?

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Speaker 2: Watch the American Office first. I know for some people

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Speaker 2: that's blasphem me, but it's my favor.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the widely old opinion and then watch

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Speaker 1: the paper.

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Speaker 2: But everyone else who's watched The Office, which is everyone

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Speaker 2: else in the world, watch the paper. It's on binge.

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Speaker 1: I do believe that's true.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 3: How's married life?

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Speaker 2: The kids are amazing, right, don't drug would you do

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, I'll do it anyway.

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Speaker 5: But you are still a failure.

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Speaker 3: He got fired.

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Speaker 1: Everybody seems to think we hate each other.

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Speaker 4: I suppost sometimes I do hate you, a sporadic hatred.

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Speaker 3: I love this fun banter you guys do. Sometimes Ivy's

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Speaker 3: I just want the house I built it.

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Speaker 5: You're not having as we want everything.

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Speaker 1: So okay, where do I even begin? It's so great,

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Speaker 3: Well, and not even that, the supporting cast.

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Speaker 2: My god, I'm obsessed with him. I've also I haven't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we all fell in love with him

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Speaker 1: Like, it's a great supporting cast and one of the

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Speaker 1: The American comedians, they obviously have that very bulshy, like

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Speaker 1: Ways, Laura, there's chemistry in there's like sexual chemistry, and

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Speaker 3: What I think? Okay, maybe this is just what I

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Speaker 2: It's what he's known for mostly being a sex symbol.

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Speaker 1: To me, I just think of the guy who couldn't

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Speaker 2: Jennessey Dokay, he feels bad about that. Okay, he hates

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Speaker 2: when people bring that up. Yeah, I hate to bring

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Speaker 2: it comes about very famously narrated a wildlife documentary. He

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Speaker 4: Last thing you might expect to see here is penguins.

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Speaker 4: These are fjordland crested penguins named after this corner of

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Speaker 2: As he has pointed out, it's the fault of the

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Speaker 2: That's Hangwangengan.

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Speaker 1: But okay, I never, I guess lusted for this man

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, Okay, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know, but you didn't know that was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course feeling. I maybe they just like love

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Speaker 1: Anyway, in my head, I was just like a great actor,

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Speaker 3: So I mean that was one take year.

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Speaker 1: looking at a relationship you're not involved in and being like,

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Speaker 3: Not figure it out? Like you're great, but like but

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it just goes on a whole crazy journey.

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Speaker 3: I think you would love it, like to the point.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine, not anyone.

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Speaker 2: So it's based on the original movie The War of

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Speaker 2: the Roses, which is the similar thing okay that I've

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Speaker 2: seen and that I like, you know, I really want

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Speaker 2: because everyone Yeah, exactly, but everyone in this movie, like

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Speaker 2: as you're saying, the cast is incredible, the director is incredible.

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Speaker 2: It's based on a really iconic movie. You now know

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Speaker 2: I can just think of all the movies I can

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Speaker 3: Just sexy, cumber Back. You're the new persons.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I'm coming in with this fresh new take

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Speaker 3: Laura, You'll never believe me, And you're like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm want of the comb of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, coming with a hot take that bettered it

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Speaker 2: come about is a hot man is interesting. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of like saying, like, did you know that Margot Robbie's beautiful?

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Speaker 2: It is not that similar, or did you know that

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Speaker 3: That's what you just said.

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Speaker 1: Well, not only is he hot, he acts so well

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Speaker 3: I won't spoil too much. But yeah, yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a movie that had me laughing

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Speaker 3: Recently good because like, wait, do we even say the plot?

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Speaker 2: Because they're like breaking up and they're like attacking each

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Speaker 1: There's a lot about Initially they show how they got together.

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Speaker 3: How do we get here? You guys are so good?

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Speaker 1: But I think it's really interesting because the original was

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Speaker 2: So some points are the roses at the cinemas, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And we just do you need to hear from exactly

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Speaker 2: The two people whose movies opinions I trust, and now

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're so welcome. I hope everyone sees it and

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much Minisha for jumping behind the mic today,

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