1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,624 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,104 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from MoMA Mia. 5 00:00:26,344 --> 00:00:29,264 Speaker 3: Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop culture Fixed. 6 00:00:29,464 --> 00:00:32,984 Speaker 1: I'm m Venom and I'm Laura Brodney. First time together. 7 00:00:32,984 --> 00:00:35,264 Speaker 1: I feel a bit nervous. Oh really, I haven't seen 8 00:00:35,264 --> 00:00:37,344 Speaker 1: each other on Wow, it's been over a week. I'm 9 00:00:37,384 --> 00:00:39,224 Speaker 1: so sorry. Obviously, was meant to be back for the 10 00:00:39,264 --> 00:00:41,904 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday show, but the flight gods had other 11 00:00:41,944 --> 00:00:44,824 Speaker 1: plans and it took me about fifteen hours, even though 12 00:00:44,824 --> 00:00:47,024 Speaker 1: it should only be a one hour flight. 13 00:00:47,144 --> 00:00:49,184 Speaker 3: She could have literally gone to La I know I 14 00:00:49,184 --> 00:00:52,304 Speaker 3: could have just like on the ground reporting for us today. 15 00:00:52,824 --> 00:00:54,464 Speaker 1: I keep a note type in my phone of like 16 00:00:54,544 --> 00:00:57,544 Speaker 1: spill ideas and all three East was filling that bad 17 00:00:57,584 --> 00:00:59,144 Speaker 1: Boy out with all the big things I was going 18 00:00:59,224 --> 00:01:01,224 Speaker 1: to talk about on Tuesday. But it's okay because a 19 00:01:01,224 --> 00:01:03,264 Speaker 1: few of them have carried over to Tokay good. 20 00:01:03,304 --> 00:01:05,344 Speaker 3: I'm glad we didn't steal that from you, because on 21 00:01:05,424 --> 00:01:08,744 Speaker 3: the show today we are talking about Justin Bieber and 22 00:01:08,864 --> 00:01:12,224 Speaker 3: the fallout that has happened into Coachella He's kind of 23 00:01:12,224 --> 00:01:14,864 Speaker 3: been in the news for a while now, so we 24 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:17,624 Speaker 3: are catching up on everything that's been happening over there. 25 00:01:17,904 --> 00:01:21,184 Speaker 3: Plus we are talking about a new interview with Amy 26 00:01:21,184 --> 00:01:24,624 Speaker 3: Pol's new podcast, Good Hang with Catherine Hahn. There's something 27 00:01:24,704 --> 00:01:26,824 Speaker 3: really interesting in this interview that I really want to 28 00:01:26,824 --> 00:01:29,144 Speaker 3: ask LB about, and I'm not going to tell you 29 00:01:29,224 --> 00:01:30,584 Speaker 3: what it is. I want you to be surprised. 30 00:01:30,704 --> 00:01:34,224 Speaker 1: But first, but first, we had two exciting new trailers 31 00:01:34,224 --> 00:01:36,744 Speaker 1: come out over the last couple of days. Why was exciting? 32 00:01:36,744 --> 00:01:38,744 Speaker 1: When was spooky? Oh? I was gonna say. I thought 33 00:01:38,744 --> 00:01:40,624 Speaker 1: we're gonna say one was exciting and one was not. 34 00:01:40,744 --> 00:01:42,224 Speaker 1: And I was like, which one was not? Actually the 35 00:01:42,224 --> 00:01:44,744 Speaker 1: one that was exciting, it's not really exciting, Okay, anyware 36 00:01:44,864 --> 00:01:48,144 Speaker 1: to build it up for the audience anyway, Okay, just 37 00:01:48,184 --> 00:01:50,864 Speaker 1: please allow me and my elder millennial heart a moment 38 00:01:50,904 --> 00:01:53,664 Speaker 1: for this because I miss the shows this week and 39 00:01:53,664 --> 00:01:55,584 Speaker 1: I didn't get to talk about the first trailer for 40 00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:57,824 Speaker 1: season three, and of just like that. 41 00:01:58,224 --> 00:02:02,304 Speaker 2: There's nothing like summer in New York City, New York 42 00:02:02,384 --> 00:02:08,144 Speaker 2: City Ago, with its hot days and even harday nights. 43 00:02:10,064 --> 00:02:20,264 Speaker 2: Something new and unexpected always awakes. 44 00:02:16,664 --> 00:02:23,584 Speaker 1: Rats Francy around like in the Nutcracker. I'm trying something new. 45 00:02:23,864 --> 00:02:27,504 Speaker 1: It's fiction romantic. It is very hot right sect on 46 00:02:27,584 --> 00:02:28,144 Speaker 1: the cauldron. 47 00:02:28,424 --> 00:02:32,184 Speaker 2: Now I have a title, goos to. 48 00:02:34,344 --> 00:02:34,704 Speaker 1: Carrie. 49 00:02:34,864 --> 00:02:36,904 Speaker 2: Have you heard anything from a Yeah, I got a 50 00:02:36,904 --> 00:02:37,624 Speaker 2: postcard today. 51 00:02:37,704 --> 00:02:38,624 Speaker 3: Well what did he rate? 52 00:02:39,344 --> 00:02:44,304 Speaker 1: Nothing? A blank postcards gets an all who not in 53 00:02:44,464 --> 00:02:47,544 Speaker 1: over the top all? But it's better than nothing. I 54 00:02:49,264 --> 00:02:51,584 Speaker 1: really like her, but it's a work contact. 55 00:02:52,024 --> 00:02:55,664 Speaker 2: It's okay to have a word crush, right, Yeah, that 56 00:02:55,824 --> 00:02:58,344 Speaker 2: selfie we took it to send them my second. 57 00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:01,184 Speaker 1: Editor, no one. 58 00:03:02,584 --> 00:03:05,784 Speaker 3: I feel like out of old the saisons And this 59 00:03:05,904 --> 00:03:08,784 Speaker 3: might be an unpopular opinion, but including all the saisons 60 00:03:08,824 --> 00:03:11,944 Speaker 3: of sex and the city from the trailer, I think 61 00:03:11,984 --> 00:03:14,544 Speaker 3: this is the best run of fashion I've ever seen 62 00:03:14,584 --> 00:03:15,104 Speaker 3: from the show. 63 00:03:15,304 --> 00:03:18,064 Speaker 1: Really, Oh, I love that way every hour outfit that 64 00:03:18,104 --> 00:03:19,264 Speaker 1: you every outfit. 65 00:03:18,944 --> 00:03:21,424 Speaker 3: Every single app Oh the one that carry comes in 66 00:03:21,464 --> 00:03:24,104 Speaker 3: this like tight blue dress. So she's walking, you know 67 00:03:24,144 --> 00:03:25,904 Speaker 3: that classic like run. 68 00:03:25,744 --> 00:03:28,504 Speaker 1: Across the street. I used to get hit by a taxi. 69 00:03:28,184 --> 00:03:30,424 Speaker 3: That I love that. I've done that walk before. It's 70 00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:33,424 Speaker 3: quite fun. I recommend everyone try it. The classic carry 71 00:03:33,464 --> 00:03:37,144 Speaker 3: brid shoulder like the like half walk half skip. 72 00:03:37,664 --> 00:03:39,064 Speaker 1: You coming into the office. Every day. 73 00:03:39,144 --> 00:03:41,064 Speaker 3: Yes, and you always have to like hold your handbag 74 00:03:41,104 --> 00:03:42,744 Speaker 3: with your hand. You can't have it on your shoulder. 75 00:03:42,824 --> 00:03:45,544 Speaker 1: No, no, no, real city ladies never put a bag over 76 00:03:45,584 --> 00:03:47,544 Speaker 1: their shoulder. Never. So it's me and I've got to 77 00:03:47,544 --> 00:03:49,504 Speaker 1: have my bag over my shoulder because I'm always. 78 00:03:49,224 --> 00:03:52,944 Speaker 3: Carrying bag is like fifty kilos. Okay, it's a Merry 79 00:03:52,984 --> 00:03:55,384 Speaker 3: Poppins back. I have like the laptop from the eighteen hundred. 80 00:03:55,464 --> 00:03:57,584 Speaker 1: Okay, I need my laptop. I need my full makeup bag, 81 00:03:57,624 --> 00:03:59,504 Speaker 1: I need my snacks, I need my comfy shoes because 82 00:03:59,504 --> 00:04:01,584 Speaker 1: I wear heels, I can't. I just long to be 83 00:04:01,624 --> 00:04:03,304 Speaker 1: one of those women who run through the streets of 84 00:04:03,344 --> 00:04:05,224 Speaker 1: the time. You can be like that. 85 00:04:06,224 --> 00:04:08,784 Speaker 3: The sense of the like I know they're I'm sorry 86 00:04:08,784 --> 00:04:10,584 Speaker 3: when I'm not talking about the trailer, but I know 87 00:04:11,144 --> 00:04:13,864 Speaker 3: there are women listening to the podcast who know that 88 00:04:13,984 --> 00:04:15,864 Speaker 3: you are like one of the people who live the 89 00:04:15,864 --> 00:04:18,464 Speaker 3: most carry Bradshaw esque a life. And the fact that 90 00:04:18,464 --> 00:04:22,104 Speaker 3: we're not doing that. Sure, it's crazy. It's crazy. 91 00:04:22,264 --> 00:04:24,264 Speaker 1: What running through the streets with the tiny bag. Yes, 92 00:04:24,424 --> 00:04:24,904 Speaker 1: you live in. 93 00:04:24,864 --> 00:04:28,264 Speaker 3: The city, you live alone, single, you can do this 94 00:04:28,984 --> 00:04:30,544 Speaker 3: and you don't do it, which is crazy. 95 00:04:30,784 --> 00:04:32,784 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, maybe I should just like follow. 96 00:04:32,504 --> 00:04:34,304 Speaker 3: You and fill me one day doing the carry Brad, 97 00:04:34,344 --> 00:04:35,264 Speaker 3: She'll walk across. 98 00:04:35,224 --> 00:04:37,464 Speaker 1: Through the streets. Yeah, okay, well I'll make that my 99 00:04:37,544 --> 00:04:40,424 Speaker 1: news resolution coming to you hot at the end of April, 100 00:04:40,544 --> 00:04:42,944 Speaker 1: to only carry a tiny bag through the streets. I 101 00:04:42,944 --> 00:04:47,144 Speaker 1: guess there's something more to say for the trailer. The 102 00:04:47,184 --> 00:04:49,544 Speaker 1: trailer's out, So I love that every other podcast has 103 00:04:49,544 --> 00:04:52,584 Speaker 1: done this deep analysis on the characters and the throwbags, 104 00:04:52,584 --> 00:04:55,184 Speaker 1: and we're just like tiny bag. Yeah nay. So we 105 00:04:55,224 --> 00:04:57,824 Speaker 1: see Carry in her new house, which I'm you don't 106 00:04:57,904 --> 00:04:59,824 Speaker 1: like the house, No, I kind of hate it because 107 00:04:59,864 --> 00:05:01,904 Speaker 1: I loved her being back in her apartment because as 108 00:05:01,984 --> 00:05:04,584 Speaker 1: much as I'm a huge too much money I cannot carry, 109 00:05:04,584 --> 00:05:06,584 Speaker 1: but I understand wanting to go back to a place 110 00:05:06,584 --> 00:05:08,784 Speaker 1: that you felt comforted. I just think that I'm one 111 00:05:08,824 --> 00:05:11,264 Speaker 1: of those people who's such an and just like that apologist. 112 00:05:11,384 --> 00:05:13,144 Speaker 1: Like I know so many people hate watch it, I 113 00:05:13,184 --> 00:05:15,864 Speaker 1: personally don't. I just love seeing those women back together, 114 00:05:16,144 --> 00:05:19,504 Speaker 1: but they're gliding on Nostaldier, Like I'm not really watching 115 00:05:19,544 --> 00:05:21,464 Speaker 1: for the new storylines as much as much as I 116 00:05:21,504 --> 00:05:23,424 Speaker 1: love that, I'm watching because I love these characters and 117 00:05:23,464 --> 00:05:25,704 Speaker 1: I love these women. The only thing they don't repeat 118 00:05:25,744 --> 00:05:29,464 Speaker 1: are their efforts. Yeah, everything else on the table, I know, 119 00:05:29,584 --> 00:05:31,544 Speaker 1: but I don't care. I'm here for it. So I 120 00:05:31,584 --> 00:05:34,984 Speaker 1: love seeing carriages back in her apartment, running through the streets, 121 00:05:34,984 --> 00:05:37,344 Speaker 1: and her crazy outfits and sitting on her window sill 122 00:05:37,384 --> 00:05:40,144 Speaker 1: and ate her popcorn and even ate and being back 123 00:05:40,224 --> 00:05:43,384 Speaker 1: like he's wearing the classic fannel. He's never moved on exactly, 124 00:05:43,464 --> 00:05:45,744 Speaker 1: So seeing her now in this fancy new house, it's 125 00:05:45,824 --> 00:05:47,784 Speaker 1: kind of leaning more into this idea that she's this 126 00:05:48,024 --> 00:05:50,624 Speaker 1: very rich woman who's so removed from the original gal 127 00:05:50,704 --> 00:05:52,704 Speaker 1: that we knew. But I guess that's okay. People move on, 128 00:05:52,784 --> 00:05:55,624 Speaker 1: and she know she's got a rat infestation, so things 129 00:05:55,664 --> 00:05:58,624 Speaker 1: are feeling more down to earth. She's writing fiction now 130 00:05:58,664 --> 00:06:00,424 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I love that they thought about there. 131 00:06:00,464 --> 00:06:02,824 Speaker 1: There's a joke in there about having to write fantasy 132 00:06:02,944 --> 00:06:05,424 Speaker 1: romance because that's the only thing that sells right now. 133 00:06:05,584 --> 00:06:08,464 Speaker 1: Oh it's true, it's true. Yeah, what did you think 134 00:06:08,464 --> 00:06:10,904 Speaker 1: about the Aiden factor being back? That whole thing about 135 00:06:10,944 --> 00:06:14,224 Speaker 1: him staying away from her for five years doesn't feel 136 00:06:14,264 --> 00:06:16,544 Speaker 1: like it's going to actually happen in this season, which 137 00:06:16,584 --> 00:06:18,184 Speaker 1: is good because that was always like I think a 138 00:06:18,184 --> 00:06:20,264 Speaker 1: plot point that was going to be quickly pushed away 139 00:06:20,264 --> 00:06:22,744 Speaker 1: in the first episode, I was okay. 140 00:06:22,744 --> 00:06:26,224 Speaker 3: Firstly, in Sex and the City, I loved Aiden. I 141 00:06:26,544 --> 00:06:28,144 Speaker 3: loved their relationship. 142 00:06:28,224 --> 00:06:29,824 Speaker 1: I really liked it. I'm not saying I didn't. I 143 00:06:29,864 --> 00:06:31,744 Speaker 1: just think that especially as the years go on, people 144 00:06:31,784 --> 00:06:34,184 Speaker 1: have turned really against Aiden, saying that he's so controlling, 145 00:06:34,224 --> 00:06:35,384 Speaker 1: and he did this and that, and they were a 146 00:06:35,384 --> 00:06:37,424 Speaker 1: bad match and they wanted such different things. 147 00:06:37,544 --> 00:06:39,424 Speaker 3: They did want such different things. But I don't think 148 00:06:39,424 --> 00:06:42,624 Speaker 3: that's necessarily put on him. Like the worst episode and 149 00:06:42,664 --> 00:06:45,144 Speaker 3: Second City is when she goes to ask for us 150 00:06:45,144 --> 00:06:48,024 Speaker 3: forgive there's for cheating on him, and he's like, you broke. 151 00:06:47,864 --> 00:06:51,344 Speaker 1: My heart and then she runs away. It's so funny 152 00:06:51,344 --> 00:06:54,144 Speaker 1: because in this new trailer we have a throwback to 153 00:06:54,224 --> 00:06:56,584 Speaker 1: their very early days of dating that you only know 154 00:06:56,584 --> 00:06:58,784 Speaker 1: if you're a super fan, which is in the early 155 00:06:58,864 --> 00:07:01,544 Speaker 1: days of dating. Carry goes under his window and throws 156 00:07:01,624 --> 00:07:04,104 Speaker 1: rocks at it and then freaks out when he comes out, 157 00:07:04,144 --> 00:07:06,184 Speaker 1: and she like breaks something and runs away. And in 158 00:07:06,184 --> 00:07:08,264 Speaker 1: this new season we see him doing that at her 159 00:07:08,304 --> 00:07:11,104 Speaker 1: palatial townhouse. I love a throwback and the ohther Rock 160 00:07:11,144 --> 00:07:13,104 Speaker 1: goes through the window would cost millions. 161 00:07:13,344 --> 00:07:15,904 Speaker 3: What I was disappointed in is like he was a 162 00:07:15,904 --> 00:07:18,384 Speaker 3: big feature in this trailer, which makes me think that 163 00:07:18,464 --> 00:07:22,304 Speaker 3: this season, I was really hoping we'd get more of 164 00:07:22,424 --> 00:07:24,144 Speaker 3: Carrie dating. 165 00:07:24,504 --> 00:07:27,424 Speaker 1: Going on, which we still might, because I think a 166 00:07:27,424 --> 00:07:29,264 Speaker 1: lot of people that's the one thing they want Sex 167 00:07:29,304 --> 00:07:31,144 Speaker 1: and City to go back to, and I know it's 168 00:07:31,304 --> 00:07:33,304 Speaker 1: just like that, not Sex and City, but that universe 169 00:07:33,664 --> 00:07:35,824 Speaker 1: is that they want that boyfriend of the week, date 170 00:07:35,904 --> 00:07:37,944 Speaker 1: of the week, or in Miranda's case, which I think 171 00:07:37,984 --> 00:07:39,384 Speaker 1: she's going to be the only one who's out there 172 00:07:39,464 --> 00:07:43,544 Speaker 1: dating because Sarah Ramirez, who played Chay Diaz, is officially 173 00:07:43,584 --> 00:07:46,904 Speaker 1: not in this season, and so Miranda is out there dating, 174 00:07:46,904 --> 00:07:48,944 Speaker 1: and so she's going to have that girlfriend dating of 175 00:07:48,944 --> 00:07:50,824 Speaker 1: the week experience, which. 176 00:07:50,624 --> 00:07:53,424 Speaker 3: I'm excited for because I love seeing when they have crushes. 177 00:07:53,544 --> 00:07:55,864 Speaker 3: Ye like I miss a good crush on TV. 178 00:07:55,784 --> 00:07:57,624 Speaker 1: Exactly, and I want to see them doing that in 179 00:07:57,664 --> 00:07:59,904 Speaker 1: their fifties as much as we did in their thirties. 180 00:08:00,064 --> 00:08:01,744 Speaker 1: That's the same thing with Carrie and Aiden is that 181 00:08:01,824 --> 00:08:03,864 Speaker 1: idea of some people love it because they're like, oh, 182 00:08:03,904 --> 00:08:06,184 Speaker 1: it's so lovely, they can still find love in their fifties. 183 00:08:06,224 --> 00:08:07,944 Speaker 1: But then it's that idea of like, can you only 184 00:08:08,024 --> 00:08:11,624 Speaker 1: find love in your fifties with someone you're within your thirties? Well, 185 00:08:11,664 --> 00:08:13,904 Speaker 1: don't even put that together. Oh yeah, like that idea 186 00:08:13,944 --> 00:08:15,544 Speaker 1: of like is that a good thing or a bad thing? 187 00:08:15,664 --> 00:08:17,544 Speaker 1: Like I do. I would love to see carry out there, 188 00:08:17,624 --> 00:08:18,664 Speaker 1: just like doing the dating. 189 00:08:18,744 --> 00:08:22,144 Speaker 3: Oh there's a sexy new neighbor. Oh yeah, maybe that, 190 00:08:22,304 --> 00:08:24,744 Speaker 3: Maybe that'll be it. Well anyway, and just like that 191 00:08:24,864 --> 00:08:27,464 Speaker 3: is coming to Max in Australia on May thirtieth. 192 00:08:27,544 --> 00:08:29,464 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm talking about it. 193 00:08:29,504 --> 00:08:32,904 Speaker 3: I just got my Max subscription so I'm ready to 194 00:08:32,944 --> 00:08:34,344 Speaker 3: go watching everything on there. 195 00:08:34,424 --> 00:08:37,224 Speaker 1: So a bit of a switcheroo with genres to the 196 00:08:37,264 --> 00:08:39,824 Speaker 1: other big trailer that came out this week, the first 197 00:08:39,864 --> 00:08:46,024 Speaker 1: trailer to I Know What You Did Last Summer? Do 198 00:08:46,064 --> 00:08:50,624 Speaker 1: you think this is some kind of corvoid? What if 199 00:08:50,624 --> 00:09:00,184 Speaker 1: someone soon happened? You need to handle this. This isn't 200 00:09:00,184 --> 00:09:02,664 Speaker 1: the first time there's been violence like this in south Portia. 201 00:09:03,344 --> 00:09:13,184 Speaker 1: It's not going to start and you start drinking. Someone 202 00:09:13,264 --> 00:09:19,864 Speaker 1: is calling after us. I need your help. I just 203 00:09:19,904 --> 00:09:24,424 Speaker 1: have one question, what did you do last summer? 204 00:09:26,264 --> 00:09:26,344 Speaker 3: So? 205 00:09:26,384 --> 00:09:28,104 Speaker 1: I Know What you did last summer? Is the long 206 00:09:28,144 --> 00:09:30,904 Speaker 1: awaited I guess it's a sequel, but it's bypassing all 207 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:33,344 Speaker 1: the sequels that came after the original movie and just 208 00:09:33,384 --> 00:09:36,264 Speaker 1: starting the story afresh. So it's a long awaited sequel 209 00:09:36,304 --> 00:09:39,264 Speaker 1: to the classic nineteen ninety seven slasher film of the 210 00:09:39,344 --> 00:09:42,544 Speaker 1: same name. Why are you scrunching up your face? Scary? 211 00:09:42,664 --> 00:09:44,864 Speaker 1: I tried. Would you watch it as a kid at 212 00:09:44,864 --> 00:09:46,944 Speaker 1: a sleepover? Yeah, that's the correct way to watch. 213 00:09:47,024 --> 00:09:50,264 Speaker 3: Everyone to watch that film way too yah, yeah, and 214 00:09:50,384 --> 00:09:53,184 Speaker 3: like its just traumatized. It was that film the Grudge 215 00:09:53,304 --> 00:09:55,504 Speaker 3: and Nightmare elmstream that I watched way. 216 00:09:55,304 --> 00:09:58,384 Speaker 1: Too yeah, and just this and Scream came out around 217 00:09:58,384 --> 00:10:00,264 Speaker 1: the same time, and I was in primary school, and 218 00:10:00,264 --> 00:10:03,744 Speaker 1: I just remember always someone sneaking the tape, like from 219 00:10:03,824 --> 00:10:05,504 Speaker 1: an older sibling or something, and bring it to the 220 00:10:05,584 --> 00:10:08,024 Speaker 1: sleepover and then just none of us sleeping the rest 221 00:10:08,064 --> 00:10:11,024 Speaker 1: of the night because it was so traumatized by the 222 00:10:11,104 --> 00:10:13,424 Speaker 1: death and also the sex sometimes because you're like, what 223 00:10:13,544 --> 00:10:15,304 Speaker 1: is I'm tending scared? 224 00:10:15,504 --> 00:10:18,144 Speaker 3: Like the most horror movies have like crazy sex scenes. 225 00:10:18,384 --> 00:10:20,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, and horror movies today don't have enough sex scenes. 226 00:10:21,144 --> 00:10:22,944 Speaker 1: Bring back a bit of sex and then a bit 227 00:10:22,984 --> 00:10:25,264 Speaker 1: of people getting stabbed to death. It's all I wanted to. 228 00:10:25,864 --> 00:10:28,064 Speaker 1: They happen at the same time exactly. Often it's back 229 00:10:28,104 --> 00:10:30,024 Speaker 1: to back because women have sex and then they get punished. 230 00:10:30,104 --> 00:10:32,904 Speaker 3: It's always like a sex like a steamy shower sex scene, 231 00:10:33,024 --> 00:10:34,424 Speaker 3: and then one of them suddenly dead. 232 00:10:34,704 --> 00:10:36,704 Speaker 1: Well that's kind of what we see in this. I 233 00:10:36,784 --> 00:10:39,024 Speaker 1: knew I know what you did last summer. So the 234 00:10:39,104 --> 00:10:42,224 Speaker 1: original star Jennifer Love Hewitt and Freddie Prince Jr. 235 00:10:43,024 --> 00:10:47,304 Speaker 3: So hot every single time. 236 00:10:47,344 --> 00:10:54,584 Speaker 1: And the original also starred Ryan Philippy and Sarah Michelle Geller. Yeah. Yeah, 237 00:10:54,624 --> 00:10:56,664 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. Not everyone's coming back for a 238 00:10:56,744 --> 00:11:01,304 Speaker 1: very important So this new cast for the new film 239 00:11:01,384 --> 00:11:03,464 Speaker 1: has a lot of interesting big names of a lot 240 00:11:03,464 --> 00:11:05,264 Speaker 1: of people similar to the original cast, a lot of 241 00:11:05,264 --> 00:11:07,784 Speaker 1: people who have become huge stars and kind of like 242 00:11:07,784 --> 00:11:10,824 Speaker 1: a few different indie movies or TV shows and are 243 00:11:10,864 --> 00:11:13,744 Speaker 1: now being propelled into this slasher franchise. We've got Madeline 244 00:11:13,784 --> 00:11:16,624 Speaker 1: Klein from Outer Banks, Chase Suwiey Wonders who's just been 245 00:11:16,624 --> 00:11:19,744 Speaker 1: in so many different movies, Lola Tongue from the Summer 246 00:11:19,784 --> 00:11:22,264 Speaker 1: I Turned Pretty just so many different names in there, 247 00:11:22,264 --> 00:11:26,264 Speaker 1: also Gabriette who I loved the model, and yeah, yeah, 248 00:11:26,344 --> 00:11:28,504 Speaker 1: she's she just is at the end of the trailer love. 249 00:11:28,464 --> 00:11:30,584 Speaker 3: HER's so good and they're gonna be like the core 250 00:11:30,664 --> 00:11:31,144 Speaker 3: group of. 251 00:11:31,104 --> 00:11:33,704 Speaker 1: Friends, yes, along with them and a few other people. 252 00:11:33,784 --> 00:11:36,144 Speaker 1: So the start of the trailer is like very much 253 00:11:36,184 --> 00:11:38,504 Speaker 1: kind of focused on Madeline Clin, who's our main girl, 254 00:11:38,544 --> 00:11:40,904 Speaker 1: and you see her being like up in a bathtub. 255 00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:44,984 Speaker 1: She's so good. Yeah, it's interesting to see. I think 256 00:11:45,024 --> 00:11:47,264 Speaker 1: if she can carry the franchise. I'm sure like people 257 00:11:47,344 --> 00:11:49,384 Speaker 1: who watch Outer Banks are being like, of course she can, 258 00:11:49,504 --> 00:11:50,144 Speaker 1: but I don't know. 259 00:11:50,464 --> 00:11:53,264 Speaker 3: I also feel liked her and was it the Glass Onion, Yeah, 260 00:11:53,424 --> 00:11:55,424 Speaker 3: that she was in. I feel like she would work 261 00:11:55,464 --> 00:11:56,664 Speaker 3: in the space as. 262 00:11:56,584 --> 00:11:58,904 Speaker 1: Like a spooky guy. She has the vibe of the scream, 263 00:11:59,184 --> 00:12:01,704 Speaker 1: so I think I think she's good casting. Just like 264 00:12:01,824 --> 00:12:04,784 Speaker 1: Jennifer Love Hewittt is such an incredible kind of anchor 265 00:12:04,824 --> 00:12:07,144 Speaker 1: for these movies. She just goes all in as a 266 00:12:07,184 --> 00:12:09,784 Speaker 1: scream queen, and I think that's why the franchises work 267 00:12:09,864 --> 00:12:11,664 Speaker 1: so well. But you have the beginning of the I 268 00:12:11,704 --> 00:12:13,224 Speaker 1: know you did last some of the new trailer where 269 00:12:13,344 --> 00:12:16,704 Speaker 1: like Madeline Clein's characters like relaxing in a bath listen 270 00:12:16,784 --> 00:12:18,984 Speaker 1: to her meditation bath bomb she is. It's just like 271 00:12:19,024 --> 00:12:21,224 Speaker 1: bright red. Yeah, so it's the first shot. It looks 272 00:12:21,224 --> 00:12:22,944 Speaker 1: like she's in a bath of blood, so you think 273 00:12:22,984 --> 00:12:25,024 Speaker 1: she's dead, but it's actually just a red bath bomb, 274 00:12:25,064 --> 00:12:28,744 Speaker 1: which is a interesting choice even without the horror element. 275 00:12:28,864 --> 00:12:31,704 Speaker 1: I've actually done a red bath bomb before. What was 276 00:12:31,744 --> 00:12:32,064 Speaker 1: your feet? 277 00:12:32,104 --> 00:12:33,984 Speaker 3: I do not recommend you have to clean your bath 278 00:12:34,064 --> 00:12:36,344 Speaker 3: for like five months after today. 279 00:12:36,504 --> 00:12:38,224 Speaker 1: I hope they cover that in the movie. I hope. 280 00:12:38,264 --> 00:12:41,784 Speaker 1: So that's what we need, and these just have to 281 00:12:41,784 --> 00:12:43,104 Speaker 1: stop lying to us about things like. 282 00:12:43,144 --> 00:12:44,944 Speaker 3: It's the practice if you do get blood in your bath, 283 00:12:45,264 --> 00:12:47,664 Speaker 3: saying I'm not judging here. If you end up pulling 284 00:12:47,704 --> 00:12:49,584 Speaker 3: someone in your bath, I can tell you exactly how 285 00:12:49,664 --> 00:12:50,144 Speaker 3: to clean it. 286 00:12:50,264 --> 00:12:53,224 Speaker 1: Okay, Emily up, I'm afraid of your murder needs. But 287 00:12:53,304 --> 00:12:55,024 Speaker 1: we have the first kind of kill of the movie 288 00:12:55,064 --> 00:12:57,624 Speaker 1: where you see the fishermen. It is reverred to and 289 00:12:57,704 --> 00:13:01,584 Speaker 1: kind of like the older movies, I kill them like that. Well, 290 00:13:01,624 --> 00:13:03,904 Speaker 1: in the original he had the big fisherman's hook that 291 00:13:03,944 --> 00:13:06,344 Speaker 1: he would hold and like slash people with, and in 292 00:13:06,424 --> 00:13:08,504 Speaker 1: this one you see like a hook go through someone's 293 00:13:08,504 --> 00:13:10,584 Speaker 1: like shoulder and back and like pull him. It's like 294 00:13:10,664 --> 00:13:12,824 Speaker 1: kind of a slow death. It's okay. I've got to say, 295 00:13:13,384 --> 00:13:15,304 Speaker 1: I'm such a huge fan and I know we did 296 00:13:15,384 --> 00:13:17,064 Speaker 1: last summer. I think it's like a perfect kind of 297 00:13:17,104 --> 00:13:21,464 Speaker 1: Slusher movie. But when I first saw this new trailer 298 00:13:21,824 --> 00:13:23,944 Speaker 1: in the beginning sequence of the new characters, I was 299 00:13:24,024 --> 00:13:26,864 Speaker 1: kind of underwhelmed. It felt very, I don't know, like 300 00:13:26,864 --> 00:13:29,144 Speaker 1: a cookie cutter kind of. I was like, this doesn't 301 00:13:29,184 --> 00:13:31,664 Speaker 1: feel as unique as I know what you did last 302 00:13:31,704 --> 00:13:33,624 Speaker 1: summer did. It felt like kind of a cookie cutter 303 00:13:33,784 --> 00:13:36,944 Speaker 1: kind of Netflix Slusher, like that was done the cheap 304 00:13:36,984 --> 00:13:38,544 Speaker 1: and just throw it up on a Friday night to 305 00:13:38,624 --> 00:13:41,544 Speaker 1: like move the algorithm around. But what really made it 306 00:13:41,624 --> 00:13:44,184 Speaker 1: work is when Jennifer Love Hewett and Freddie Prince Junior 307 00:13:44,264 --> 00:13:47,144 Speaker 1: Britchard when they're having the town meeting and Freddy Prince 308 00:13:47,184 --> 00:13:50,224 Speaker 1: Junior's character Ray just like pushes through the crowd. I 309 00:13:50,264 --> 00:13:52,424 Speaker 1: know what to do. We've had violence here before, and 310 00:13:52,464 --> 00:13:54,584 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, get that man back in the game. 311 00:13:54,664 --> 00:13:56,904 Speaker 3: And Jennifer Love he was like, tell me one thing, 312 00:13:57,464 --> 00:13:58,904 Speaker 3: what did you guys do last summer? 313 00:13:59,064 --> 00:14:04,824 Speaker 1: Yeah he knows. So as previously stated, we do see 314 00:14:04,824 --> 00:14:07,224 Speaker 1: a photo of Sarah Michelle Gellen who played Helen in 315 00:14:07,264 --> 00:14:09,944 Speaker 1: the original film, and that's all we'll see of her 316 00:14:10,024 --> 00:14:12,144 Speaker 1: for a long time because she was in Australia while 317 00:14:12,184 --> 00:14:15,104 Speaker 1: Freddie Prince Jr. They weren't together on the movie. They 318 00:14:15,144 --> 00:14:17,144 Speaker 1: met on the movie, and then they fell in love 319 00:14:17,264 --> 00:14:20,224 Speaker 1: many years later, which I think is quite cute. Did 320 00:14:20,264 --> 00:14:22,504 Speaker 1: they fall in love in Scooby Doo? They were already 321 00:14:22,504 --> 00:14:24,864 Speaker 1: together for Scooby Doo because they read the script when 322 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,424 Speaker 1: they were like in their house to get married. 323 00:14:26,584 --> 00:14:29,064 Speaker 3: That was the best decision they've ever met, Scooby Doo 324 00:14:29,104 --> 00:14:30,144 Speaker 3: and then Scooby Doo. 325 00:14:30,024 --> 00:14:32,304 Speaker 1: Too exactly, I don't know, And everyone's like, you guys 326 00:14:32,304 --> 00:14:34,824 Speaker 1: are so good together. Look at the Scooby Doo movies. Exactly, 327 00:14:35,104 --> 00:14:37,344 Speaker 1: why don't we bring Sarah Michelle Geller back? For I 328 00:14:37,384 --> 00:14:39,224 Speaker 1: know what we did last summer. And to be fair, 329 00:14:39,264 --> 00:14:42,024 Speaker 1: the creators tried really hard. She could have come as 330 00:14:42,024 --> 00:14:44,384 Speaker 1: like a ghost. They tried they maybe she could have 331 00:14:44,504 --> 00:14:49,544 Speaker 1: killed this well. They tried to really bring her character 332 00:14:49,624 --> 00:14:52,664 Speaker 1: back and they were like, we could do this, we 333 00:14:52,664 --> 00:14:54,384 Speaker 1: could do that. It could be this huge plot twist. 334 00:14:54,424 --> 00:14:56,864 Speaker 1: Your character Helen's alive, and it was Sarah Michelle Gella 335 00:14:56,904 --> 00:14:59,024 Speaker 1: because she was in Australia. She's the one who accidentally 336 00:14:59,104 --> 00:15:01,384 Speaker 1: leaked the news that it was filming because she shared 337 00:15:01,424 --> 00:15:04,624 Speaker 1: the photo of the chair. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, 338 00:15:04,664 --> 00:15:06,184 Speaker 1: And that was a huge thing and she had to 339 00:15:06,224 --> 00:15:09,824 Speaker 1: apologize and apparently she said to the creators, my character 340 00:15:09,944 --> 00:15:12,904 Speaker 1: is dead. She's so dead. She's the deadest anyone has 341 00:15:12,904 --> 00:15:18,464 Speaker 1: ever been. She's on ice dead. I'm Sarah dead, Gella. 342 00:15:18,544 --> 00:15:20,744 Speaker 3: I love how she accidentally leaked that it was getting 343 00:15:20,744 --> 00:15:22,584 Speaker 3: made and then was like, anyway, I'm not gonna be 344 00:15:22,584 --> 00:15:22,704 Speaker 3: in this. 345 00:15:22,824 --> 00:15:24,984 Speaker 1: I know I'm not involved and just like walked away. 346 00:15:25,584 --> 00:15:27,664 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe this is all some kind 347 00:15:27,704 --> 00:15:30,224 Speaker 1: of elaborate plot twist and she isn't it, but I'd 348 00:15:30,224 --> 00:15:31,664 Speaker 1: say that it is. 349 00:15:31,824 --> 00:15:33,784 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have to sit near you in 350 00:15:33,824 --> 00:15:35,704 Speaker 3: the cinema because you will scream and. 351 00:15:35,784 --> 00:15:40,744 Speaker 1: Clap like you did for Deadpool. You've got a standing 352 00:15:40,744 --> 00:15:43,584 Speaker 1: ovation from Laura Brodney. I was on my feet in 353 00:15:43,664 --> 00:15:46,784 Speaker 1: Deadpool like clapping and screaming. Emilye's like, who is that person? 354 00:15:46,784 --> 00:15:48,784 Speaker 1: I was like, it's twenty years of Laura. I can't 355 00:15:48,784 --> 00:15:51,304 Speaker 1: get into it all. We went and saw the last 356 00:15:51,344 --> 00:15:53,504 Speaker 1: Scream movie together and you were on the floor with 357 00:15:53,584 --> 00:15:55,184 Speaker 1: your face covered, so we'll get the best of her 358 00:15:55,224 --> 00:15:57,104 Speaker 1: world this one hundred percent. Well, I know what we 359 00:15:57,144 --> 00:15:59,664 Speaker 1: did last summer is coming out in July of this year. 360 00:16:00,144 --> 00:16:03,624 Speaker 1: I'm nervous, I'm excited. I'm ready to I'm nervous. I'm 361 00:16:03,664 --> 00:16:05,824 Speaker 1: ready to see some teens get murdered. That's all I 362 00:16:05,824 --> 00:16:07,304 Speaker 1: want to see. 363 00:16:08,504 --> 00:16:12,424 Speaker 3: Okay, Over the long an, I was listening to some 364 00:16:12,424 --> 00:16:14,984 Speaker 3: podcast and I picked up a new podcast of mine 365 00:16:15,024 --> 00:16:18,584 Speaker 3: because the lead on this podcast is Amy Poehler, who 366 00:16:18,784 --> 00:16:22,624 Speaker 3: we both absolutely adore, adore. She's got this podcast called 367 00:16:22,784 --> 00:16:24,944 Speaker 3: Good Hang, and I feel like we've talked about this 368 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:29,784 Speaker 3: on the Spill on our podcast before this act. 369 00:16:29,904 --> 00:16:33,024 Speaker 1: To be fair, it always blows my mind that all 370 00:16:33,104 --> 00:16:35,344 Speaker 1: of these people who in my head have the dream 371 00:16:35,424 --> 00:16:38,544 Speaker 1: job of like being in TV shows and movies and 372 00:16:38,624 --> 00:16:41,744 Speaker 1: like doing all these talk show appearances and living this huge, 373 00:16:41,784 --> 00:16:45,184 Speaker 1: big creative life and making content, that they have all 374 00:16:45,224 --> 00:16:48,864 Speaker 1: pivoted to doing our day jobs. I know, if we 375 00:16:48,904 --> 00:16:51,264 Speaker 1: could do your job, we do it. We don't come 376 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:55,064 Speaker 1: down to us, don't don't come to this side of 377 00:16:55,064 --> 00:17:00,584 Speaker 1: the pool. Keeps saying literally, whatever you want, we need this, 378 00:17:00,824 --> 00:17:03,024 Speaker 1: we need this, we need to pay our bills. You 379 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:06,104 Speaker 1: don't need to every I just want to be like, 380 00:17:06,144 --> 00:17:09,024 Speaker 1: why are you guys doing this? It's so odd. Anyway, 381 00:17:09,184 --> 00:17:10,504 Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of chat about too 382 00:17:10,544 --> 00:17:13,504 Speaker 1: many celebrity podcasts, yes, and I mostly think that's true 383 00:17:13,544 --> 00:17:15,424 Speaker 1: and they just want to talk to each other. But 384 00:17:15,504 --> 00:17:18,264 Speaker 1: this is a particularly good one. It's so good. 385 00:17:18,304 --> 00:17:20,624 Speaker 3: And I was trying to figure out what was so 386 00:17:20,664 --> 00:17:22,704 Speaker 3: good about it because I have watched a few episodes, 387 00:17:22,744 --> 00:17:24,904 Speaker 3: and it was only when I watched this particular episode, 388 00:17:24,904 --> 00:17:27,704 Speaker 3: the latest one where she interviewed Catherine Hark and they've 389 00:17:27,704 --> 00:17:30,264 Speaker 3: been friends for a really long time, she actually told 390 00:17:30,344 --> 00:17:33,664 Speaker 3: me essentially in this interview on why it's so good, 391 00:17:34,064 --> 00:17:36,824 Speaker 3: and she was saying that it isn't a podcast where 392 00:17:36,824 --> 00:17:38,704 Speaker 3: two men explain things to each other. 393 00:17:38,544 --> 00:17:39,504 Speaker 1: For three hours. 394 00:17:40,304 --> 00:17:43,304 Speaker 3: And it was so true because for some reason, this 395 00:17:43,384 --> 00:17:45,704 Speaker 3: podcast and I feel like a lot of podcasts and 396 00:17:45,824 --> 00:17:49,664 Speaker 3: including us, where it's like women on podcasts, we feel 397 00:17:49,664 --> 00:17:52,344 Speaker 3: like that we have to be better than better. Yeah, 398 00:17:52,384 --> 00:17:55,384 Speaker 3: we have to like have be so well researched, we 399 00:17:55,464 --> 00:17:57,864 Speaker 3: have to do these deep analysis into things. We have 400 00:17:57,944 --> 00:18:01,264 Speaker 3: to have really hard opinions for a to succeed. And 401 00:18:01,304 --> 00:18:04,264 Speaker 3: these men do these podcasts and I am generalizing here, 402 00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:05,344 Speaker 3: so don't at me. 403 00:18:05,464 --> 00:18:07,384 Speaker 1: I think it's a fair generalization where. 404 00:18:07,184 --> 00:18:11,064 Speaker 3: They just sit no notes, no preparation, they just talk 405 00:18:11,104 --> 00:18:15,744 Speaker 3: about random shit and they get like millions and millions 406 00:18:15,744 --> 00:18:18,144 Speaker 3: of listens and millions and millions of views. And what 407 00:18:18,224 --> 00:18:20,624 Speaker 3: I love about this podcast Good Hang, is that she's 408 00:18:20,744 --> 00:18:23,184 Speaker 3: essentially doing the same thing and was like, I just 409 00:18:23,184 --> 00:18:24,864 Speaker 3: want to vibe, like I just want to be here, 410 00:18:24,864 --> 00:18:26,824 Speaker 3: like I don't want to have these deep conversations. Like 411 00:18:26,864 --> 00:18:29,424 Speaker 3: women can be light and funny as well and still 412 00:18:29,424 --> 00:18:30,224 Speaker 3: be successful. 413 00:18:30,664 --> 00:18:33,464 Speaker 1: That's the such interesting kind of takeaway from this, especially 414 00:18:33,504 --> 00:18:35,504 Speaker 1: like I think it says something I don't think Amy 415 00:18:35,504 --> 00:18:37,664 Speaker 1: Pola was trying to take this huge stance on like 416 00:18:38,224 --> 00:18:40,504 Speaker 1: podcasting or what people want to listen to, Like she 417 00:18:40,984 --> 00:18:43,104 Speaker 1: always says like I'm not across the trends. I don't 418 00:18:43,104 --> 00:18:44,784 Speaker 1: know what people like. I just do my own thing. 419 00:18:44,824 --> 00:18:47,464 Speaker 1: But she's somehow come across what people want from a podcast, 420 00:18:47,504 --> 00:18:50,704 Speaker 1: which is not all of these like gimmicky, weird things 421 00:18:50,744 --> 00:18:53,544 Speaker 1: and like these intense deep dives that like other celebs 422 00:18:53,544 --> 00:18:54,984 Speaker 1: are like I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, 423 00:18:55,024 --> 00:18:57,024 Speaker 1: even like with Chloe Katashi's new podcast, so she's like, 424 00:18:57,024 --> 00:18:58,944 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about cults, and now she's just reverted 425 00:18:58,944 --> 00:19:00,824 Speaker 1: going back to talking to her friends because the end 426 00:19:00,824 --> 00:19:02,784 Speaker 1: of the day, people just want a good hang to 427 00:19:02,824 --> 00:19:05,104 Speaker 1: listen to. Yes that she's talking about like, people just 428 00:19:05,104 --> 00:19:07,344 Speaker 1: want good conversation, and I love that She's just like, 429 00:19:07,384 --> 00:19:08,904 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit here and chat to my friends. 430 00:19:08,904 --> 00:19:10,864 Speaker 1: And then so many times during the e she reaches 431 00:19:10,904 --> 00:19:13,384 Speaker 1: for her laptop, which for anyone else would ship me 432 00:19:13,504 --> 00:19:15,024 Speaker 1: to tears. They're like, I don't know, I'm just going 433 00:19:15,064 --> 00:19:16,344 Speaker 1: to google it. I'm just going to look it up. Wait, 434 00:19:16,384 --> 00:19:17,944 Speaker 1: I have a piece of paper here somewhere. Where's that 435 00:19:17,944 --> 00:19:19,664 Speaker 1: piece of paper? And I'm like, if anyone else is 436 00:19:19,704 --> 00:19:22,144 Speaker 1: to drive me insane? But with Amy Pohlar, it just works. 437 00:19:22,184 --> 00:19:23,704 Speaker 1: It just works so well. 438 00:19:23,824 --> 00:19:26,624 Speaker 3: And I feel like with female friendships, especially if you're 439 00:19:26,664 --> 00:19:30,664 Speaker 3: interviewing your friend, you naturally go into a place of 440 00:19:30,704 --> 00:19:34,144 Speaker 3: like depth and like analysis, which I feel like sometimes 441 00:19:34,184 --> 00:19:36,584 Speaker 3: this interview, in particular with Catherine harm because I obviously 442 00:19:36,704 --> 00:19:39,704 Speaker 3: so comfortable each other. It starts going into that and 443 00:19:39,744 --> 00:19:42,584 Speaker 3: then it automatically like does a left turn and comes 444 00:19:42,664 --> 00:19:46,024 Speaker 3: light again. Can I play you my favorite party from 445 00:19:46,024 --> 00:19:47,344 Speaker 3: the podcast. 446 00:19:47,504 --> 00:19:50,864 Speaker 2: How do you balance the introversion and extraversion part of 447 00:19:50,904 --> 00:19:51,824 Speaker 2: what we do well? 448 00:20:03,464 --> 00:20:06,224 Speaker 3: It is the best thing ever because you can tell 449 00:20:06,384 --> 00:20:09,064 Speaker 3: like she was really thinking of a really deep answer 450 00:20:09,704 --> 00:20:12,304 Speaker 3: for this question and she just burps and then they 451 00:20:12,304 --> 00:20:13,264 Speaker 3: don't cut anything. 452 00:20:13,304 --> 00:20:16,624 Speaker 1: They just laugh like the yeah straight, which. 453 00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,984 Speaker 3: Is like the best thing ever. And it's something that 454 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:21,024 Speaker 3: men would do and it would just be a tiny 455 00:20:21,024 --> 00:20:23,344 Speaker 3: bit for them. But because it's these like two brilliant 456 00:20:23,424 --> 00:20:26,464 Speaker 3: women who've had such amazing careers, it has this other 457 00:20:26,584 --> 00:20:29,824 Speaker 3: layer of like, I just so tired, I just want 458 00:20:29,864 --> 00:20:32,824 Speaker 3: to like just chat with my best friend. However, and 459 00:20:32,944 --> 00:20:34,984 Speaker 3: saying that there is a part of the podcast that 460 00:20:35,104 --> 00:20:37,344 Speaker 3: goes quite deep that I really wanted to talk about. 461 00:20:37,544 --> 00:20:40,504 Speaker 3: They do talk a lot about friendships, especially their friendship, 462 00:20:40,544 --> 00:20:43,464 Speaker 3: and they both met on Parks and rec Amy was 463 00:20:43,504 --> 00:20:46,104 Speaker 3: already like kind of big. She's come from SNEL, she's 464 00:20:46,104 --> 00:20:48,824 Speaker 3: had these big projects, and she's leading this show. And 465 00:20:48,864 --> 00:20:51,064 Speaker 3: I think this was Catherine Hahn's like kind of first 466 00:20:51,424 --> 00:20:55,024 Speaker 3: foot into like big mainstream like television, and that's where 467 00:20:55,024 --> 00:20:58,544 Speaker 3: she kind of became almost like the best type of 468 00:20:58,864 --> 00:21:00,784 Speaker 3: side characters for other TV shows. 469 00:21:01,184 --> 00:21:03,744 Speaker 1: Movie became this big character actors, because I mean she's 470 00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:06,664 Speaker 1: been acting for like well over twenty years now. But 471 00:21:06,744 --> 00:21:09,584 Speaker 1: I guess like my memory of watching her growing up 472 00:21:09,584 --> 00:21:11,864 Speaker 1: on shows like Cross Jordan, where she was more so 473 00:21:12,024 --> 00:21:15,104 Speaker 1: the more straight character in terms of like other characters 474 00:21:15,104 --> 00:21:17,104 Speaker 1: would do the big comedy or the big dramatic moments, 475 00:21:17,144 --> 00:21:19,264 Speaker 1: and then she would do even that. She's an incredible 476 00:21:19,344 --> 00:21:21,624 Speaker 1: dramatic actress. I love that she was a comedy but 477 00:21:21,744 --> 00:21:23,824 Speaker 1: like I've seen some scenes of her and some of 478 00:21:23,824 --> 00:21:24,744 Speaker 1: the drama shows. 479 00:21:24,544 --> 00:21:28,184 Speaker 3: She's the shrink next door. She was incredible to the 480 00:21:28,184 --> 00:21:29,264 Speaker 3: point where I was like, is this her? 481 00:21:29,624 --> 00:21:33,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she's a fact about just blows my mind still. 482 00:21:33,904 --> 00:21:35,664 Speaker 1: But I think with Parks and Rex, she was playing 483 00:21:35,704 --> 00:21:38,904 Speaker 1: this big, broad, kind of like dark comedy character against 484 00:21:38,904 --> 00:21:41,384 Speaker 1: like Amy Pohla's character so like kind of light and 485 00:21:41,864 --> 00:21:42,864 Speaker 1: such a do good her, and she. 486 00:21:43,064 --> 00:21:45,584 Speaker 3: Plays her character so well because I saw the same 487 00:21:45,704 --> 00:21:48,664 Speaker 3: character in Agatha all Along, Yeah, which I think was 488 00:21:48,704 --> 00:21:51,584 Speaker 3: like her first like leading role where everyone not even 489 00:21:51,704 --> 00:21:54,384 Speaker 3: like everyone, but like a whole new generation of people 490 00:21:55,064 --> 00:21:57,584 Speaker 3: learnt about her. Yeah, and now she's just like thrown 491 00:21:57,664 --> 00:22:00,344 Speaker 3: into the spotlight from that, and now she's on that 492 00:22:00,464 --> 00:22:03,784 Speaker 3: seth Rogen show's studio on Apple TV, and she's brilliant 493 00:22:03,824 --> 00:22:05,944 Speaker 3: on that, and I feel like now is like her 494 00:22:05,984 --> 00:22:08,624 Speaker 3: moment where everyone's just going to see how brilliant of 495 00:22:08,664 --> 00:22:09,824 Speaker 3: an actor she is. 496 00:22:10,464 --> 00:22:12,024 Speaker 1: But they were talking about. 497 00:22:11,744 --> 00:22:15,224 Speaker 3: Something about friendship, which I wanted to discuss with you 498 00:22:15,344 --> 00:22:17,584 Speaker 3: because I thought it was quite interesting. So they were 499 00:22:17,584 --> 00:22:20,944 Speaker 3: saying how they met on Parks and Rex, and Catherine 500 00:22:20,984 --> 00:22:23,624 Speaker 3: was actually surprised that Amy wanted to continue being her 501 00:22:23,624 --> 00:22:26,464 Speaker 3: friends after it, because they were saying, how you do 502 00:22:26,664 --> 00:22:29,024 Speaker 3: these big shows, You're on them for years, you become 503 00:22:29,064 --> 00:22:31,384 Speaker 3: really intimate with the cast, and then you kind of 504 00:22:31,424 --> 00:22:34,264 Speaker 3: like leave each other and move on, And she was 505 00:22:34,304 --> 00:22:36,544 Speaker 3: saying how she's a surprised she was with that friendship, 506 00:22:36,544 --> 00:22:40,464 Speaker 3: but more specifically, how when you're in your forties, it 507 00:22:40,504 --> 00:22:43,784 Speaker 3: feels like you have everyone that you already need in 508 00:22:43,824 --> 00:22:46,104 Speaker 3: your life, Like you might have a partner, you might 509 00:22:46,184 --> 00:22:49,064 Speaker 3: have children, you might have family, and you might have 510 00:22:49,144 --> 00:22:51,904 Speaker 3: like your friends from high school or college that just 511 00:22:51,944 --> 00:22:55,024 Speaker 3: stick with you. And it's very rare to make new 512 00:22:55,104 --> 00:22:57,864 Speaker 3: friends in your forties, but it's important because you were 513 00:22:57,904 --> 00:23:01,624 Speaker 3: saying how when you have friends from like childhood, those 514 00:23:01,704 --> 00:23:04,104 Speaker 3: friends end up becoming your family and then you need 515 00:23:04,144 --> 00:23:06,664 Speaker 3: to find new friends. Yeah, and that was really weird 516 00:23:06,664 --> 00:23:09,104 Speaker 3: to me because I thought our goal was to always 517 00:23:09,224 --> 00:23:11,104 Speaker 3: make our friends our family. 518 00:23:11,584 --> 00:23:13,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting take away. I actually didn't think about 519 00:23:13,984 --> 00:23:15,264 Speaker 1: it like that because I was more stuck on the 520 00:23:15,304 --> 00:23:17,384 Speaker 1: bit where she and Amy Pohla were talking about the 521 00:23:17,384 --> 00:23:20,104 Speaker 1: fact that once you get to your thirties and forties, 522 00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:22,584 Speaker 1: you have this idea locked into your mind that you've 523 00:23:22,584 --> 00:23:25,024 Speaker 1: met everyone who you're really going to meet, everyone who's 524 00:23:25,024 --> 00:23:27,024 Speaker 1: going to become a friend to you. So it's almost 525 00:23:27,064 --> 00:23:30,064 Speaker 1: impossible to make new friends, which I think a lot 526 00:23:30,064 --> 00:23:33,464 Speaker 1: of people feel. And this idea that they're talking about, 527 00:23:33,464 --> 00:23:35,544 Speaker 1: like Amy Polar goes, I can't believe I'm fifty three 528 00:23:35,784 --> 00:23:38,264 Speaker 1: and like we're almost new friends now, because obviously they've 529 00:23:38,264 --> 00:23:40,104 Speaker 1: met a long time ago, but they've sort of been 530 00:23:40,144 --> 00:23:43,504 Speaker 1: hanging out of friends more recently. And this idea that 531 00:23:43,544 --> 00:23:45,784 Speaker 1: in your forties and like fifties, you can meet a 532 00:23:45,824 --> 00:23:48,264 Speaker 1: new best friend and become really attached with them. But 533 00:23:48,304 --> 00:23:50,904 Speaker 1: it's interesting because like that comment where she says, you 534 00:23:51,064 --> 00:23:53,304 Speaker 1: have to have women to grow old with who are 535 00:23:53,344 --> 00:23:55,944 Speaker 1: not your family, and that really hit me. I remember 536 00:23:55,984 --> 00:23:58,504 Speaker 1: I was listening to what does that mean, it really 537 00:23:58,624 --> 00:24:00,424 Speaker 1: hit me because I was making my bed and not 538 00:24:00,464 --> 00:24:02,104 Speaker 1: like stopped making it and like kind of just sat 539 00:24:02,184 --> 00:24:04,184 Speaker 1: there and thought about that for a second. It is 540 00:24:04,224 --> 00:24:06,064 Speaker 1: this thing. I think it's what you're saying is interesting 541 00:24:06,104 --> 00:24:07,944 Speaker 1: because this idea we've always been told is like you 542 00:24:08,064 --> 00:24:10,944 Speaker 1: keep your old friends and it's a sign of strength 543 00:24:10,984 --> 00:24:13,744 Speaker 1: that you've got those people. But I think also it's 544 00:24:13,744 --> 00:24:16,264 Speaker 1: this idea that you can like have like your best 545 00:24:16,264 --> 00:24:18,624 Speaker 1: friend could appear in your forties and fifties, and that's 546 00:24:18,624 --> 00:24:20,904 Speaker 1: going to be just as important, sometimes even more important, 547 00:24:20,944 --> 00:24:25,104 Speaker 1: because you start fresh, you don't have that baggage you 548 00:24:25,184 --> 00:24:26,704 Speaker 1: Not that you should go and cut out all your 549 00:24:26,704 --> 00:24:29,664 Speaker 1: old friends or anything like that, but this idea that 550 00:24:29,664 --> 00:24:31,784 Speaker 1: that could shape you for the better, I thought was 551 00:24:31,824 --> 00:24:32,544 Speaker 1: really interesting. 552 00:24:32,664 --> 00:24:36,024 Speaker 3: And the idea that you can be friends with someone 553 00:24:36,064 --> 00:24:38,184 Speaker 3: and they can just stay as friends. I feel like 554 00:24:38,224 --> 00:24:41,424 Speaker 3: as women, you think that you have a best friend, 555 00:24:41,504 --> 00:24:43,064 Speaker 3: or even if you find your best friend in your 556 00:24:43,104 --> 00:24:45,744 Speaker 3: forties and fifties, it feels like there's this pressure that 557 00:24:45,744 --> 00:24:48,584 Speaker 3: they have to be your person. And I think it 558 00:24:48,664 --> 00:24:51,344 Speaker 3: comes with the illusion that a lot of women like 559 00:24:51,424 --> 00:24:54,424 Speaker 3: quote unquote forget themselves when they become in a relationship 560 00:24:54,464 --> 00:24:57,224 Speaker 3: and so many women are like, yes, I'm in this relationship, 561 00:24:57,224 --> 00:25:00,024 Speaker 3: but my best friend is actually my person. Yeah, Whereas 562 00:25:00,024 --> 00:25:01,904 Speaker 3: like I feel like in this interview they're saying that 563 00:25:02,384 --> 00:25:04,504 Speaker 3: you could also just have friends and they can remain 564 00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:06,704 Speaker 3: as friends. You don't have to like put this amount 565 00:25:06,784 --> 00:25:09,504 Speaker 3: of pressure on your friendships for these women to become 566 00:25:09,584 --> 00:25:11,784 Speaker 3: your family, and you stay as friends and you have 567 00:25:11,824 --> 00:25:14,104 Speaker 3: that outlet from your inner circle. 568 00:25:14,624 --> 00:25:16,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such an interesting way look at I think 569 00:25:16,584 --> 00:25:18,504 Speaker 1: also just I think one of the reasons that people 570 00:25:18,544 --> 00:25:21,864 Speaker 1: are gravitating towards these kind of like podcasts and these 571 00:25:21,984 --> 00:25:24,544 Speaker 1: kind of like celebrity friendships is that, as we know, 572 00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:26,064 Speaker 1: there's so many studies that have been done, there's so 573 00:25:26,064 --> 00:25:28,904 Speaker 1: many articles about how difficult it is to make friends now, 574 00:25:29,384 --> 00:25:31,864 Speaker 1: especially as you get older, and no matter which city 575 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,024 Speaker 1: you live in, big city, small city, whether you've moved 576 00:25:34,024 --> 00:25:36,224 Speaker 1: somewhere new, whether you've lived somewhere your whole life. Like, 577 00:25:36,224 --> 00:25:38,424 Speaker 1: That's what I always find interesting is that how many 578 00:25:38,504 --> 00:25:41,624 Speaker 1: people in Australia, like Australian women, because obviously we have 579 00:25:41,744 --> 00:25:43,744 Speaker 1: so much kind of like with our audience and everything, 580 00:25:43,944 --> 00:25:47,584 Speaker 1: women from all walks of life, seeing how desperate everyone 581 00:25:47,704 --> 00:25:49,824 Speaker 1: is for the same thing, which is a friendship group 582 00:25:49,984 --> 00:25:52,304 Speaker 1: and women who are in relationships as well. I was 583 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:55,144 Speaker 1: sort if you're in a relationship, you wouldn't feel lonely 584 00:25:55,184 --> 00:25:57,864 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be craving friends. But the more I 585 00:25:57,944 --> 00:25:59,784 Speaker 1: kind of read other women's stories, the more I see 586 00:25:59,784 --> 00:26:01,584 Speaker 1: that becoming such a thing. And I think that's why 587 00:26:01,904 --> 00:26:05,464 Speaker 1: we kind of idolize celebrity friendships in a way, sometimes 588 00:26:05,504 --> 00:26:08,904 Speaker 1: even recent years, sometimes even more so. Sometimes when you 589 00:26:08,904 --> 00:26:11,264 Speaker 1: look at like the TikTok algorithm and videos and what 590 00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:13,584 Speaker 1: people are commenting on, what people are sharing, what gets 591 00:26:13,584 --> 00:26:17,624 Speaker 1: people excited and commenting, it's become almost as much as 592 00:26:17,664 --> 00:26:20,824 Speaker 1: like these imagined celebrity friendships between co stars or like 593 00:26:20,904 --> 00:26:23,544 Speaker 1: famous women. And I think it's because people just want 594 00:26:23,584 --> 00:26:24,264 Speaker 1: that so much. 595 00:26:24,624 --> 00:26:27,344 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what you're saying about women in relationships. 596 00:26:27,424 --> 00:26:29,704 Speaker 3: I also found it quite surprising when like my friends 597 00:26:29,744 --> 00:26:33,704 Speaker 3: in relationships were still like looking for friendships and things 598 00:26:33,744 --> 00:26:36,424 Speaker 3: like that, because I think when you're a single woman, 599 00:26:36,704 --> 00:26:41,304 Speaker 3: like you put so much value on friendships more than 600 00:26:41,344 --> 00:26:44,584 Speaker 3: women in relationships do, because like those are your people, 601 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:47,184 Speaker 3: like that your emergency contact, that the people who you 602 00:26:47,264 --> 00:26:49,104 Speaker 3: want to call when you get a promotion at work 603 00:26:49,384 --> 00:26:52,184 Speaker 3: was when you're in a relationship, your partner might be that. Yeah, 604 00:26:52,224 --> 00:26:55,304 Speaker 3: so it's never even it's never even playing field on 605 00:26:55,384 --> 00:26:57,064 Speaker 3: like how much you need from your friend versus how 606 00:26:57,144 --> 00:26:58,024 Speaker 3: much she needs from you. 607 00:26:58,224 --> 00:26:59,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 608 00:26:59,104 --> 00:27:02,664 Speaker 3: And I think that's where, like I got really surprised 609 00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:05,584 Speaker 3: in this interview because they were saying, like, you can 610 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:08,424 Speaker 3: probably need that, but you also just need like someone 611 00:27:08,464 --> 00:27:09,504 Speaker 3: to just talk shit with. 612 00:27:09,784 --> 00:27:12,024 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, someone to have a good hang with. So yeah, 613 00:27:12,024 --> 00:27:13,784 Speaker 1: I think that's my takeaway from this pub which is 614 00:27:13,824 --> 00:27:15,864 Speaker 1: really lovely, Like I love I love the thought that 615 00:27:15,944 --> 00:27:17,944 Speaker 1: my best friend is still out there and I just 616 00:27:17,984 --> 00:27:18,744 Speaker 1: haven't met them yet. 617 00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:23,424 Speaker 3: They're still coming, They're still coming. That was Well, to 618 00:27:23,464 --> 00:27:25,584 Speaker 3: be fair, if I'm still hanging around when we're in 619 00:27:25,584 --> 00:27:27,504 Speaker 3: our fifties, Well. 620 00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:29,064 Speaker 1: To be fair, you and I becoming friends. I mean 621 00:27:29,104 --> 00:27:30,464 Speaker 1: we've known to them for a long time and we 622 00:27:30,544 --> 00:27:33,144 Speaker 1: have become like closer friends over the last couple of years. 623 00:27:33,184 --> 00:27:35,464 Speaker 1: You know so much about me. I knew so much 624 00:27:35,584 --> 00:27:37,944 Speaker 1: about me. We've had some fun nights out and that 625 00:27:38,104 --> 00:27:40,184 Speaker 1: is an unexpected thing because like I'm in my late 626 00:27:40,224 --> 00:27:42,744 Speaker 1: thirties and you don't expect to be making kind of 627 00:27:42,864 --> 00:27:45,744 Speaker 1: you know, new friends at this stage. Really, Yeah, that's well, 628 00:27:45,744 --> 00:27:47,144 Speaker 1: that's where you get told. This is what I'm saying. 629 00:27:47,184 --> 00:27:49,144 Speaker 1: I just don't think the whole that the friend myth is. 630 00:27:49,464 --> 00:27:51,224 Speaker 3: Do you have like an age in your head where 631 00:27:51,224 --> 00:27:53,184 Speaker 3: you thought you would stop making friends? 632 00:27:53,664 --> 00:27:55,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was before I turned thirty. But then I 633 00:27:55,904 --> 00:27:57,824 Speaker 1: moved to Sydney and I didn't know one single person 634 00:27:57,864 --> 00:28:00,224 Speaker 1: in this whole entire city, so I had to I 635 00:28:00,304 --> 00:28:03,544 Speaker 1: had to just make friends. So it's nice. And then 636 00:28:03,624 --> 00:28:05,464 Speaker 1: what Amy Paul is saying is she thought she had 637 00:28:05,464 --> 00:28:07,744 Speaker 1: all her friends, all her comedy friends. Tina Fey and 638 00:28:07,824 --> 00:28:09,904 Speaker 1: her have been friends for twenty five years. Rachel Dry, 639 00:28:09,944 --> 00:28:12,304 Speaker 1: she already had her friend group, and then they've kind 640 00:28:12,344 --> 00:28:15,584 Speaker 1: of like she's looking for new people still, and she's like, 641 00:28:15,784 --> 00:28:17,624 Speaker 1: I love the fact that I'm making best friends in 642 00:28:17,624 --> 00:28:21,464 Speaker 1: my fifties. That's so that's what I take away from. Anyway, 643 00:28:21,584 --> 00:28:23,424 Speaker 1: We'll keep you updated on the new friends we make. 644 00:28:24,624 --> 00:28:29,864 Speaker 1: Apply within well, I hate to switch away from talking 645 00:28:29,864 --> 00:28:32,584 Speaker 1: about tiny bags and sex and the city and female 646 00:28:32,584 --> 00:28:36,024 Speaker 1: friendships in Hollywood world very wholesome, but we do have 647 00:28:36,144 --> 00:28:41,584 Speaker 1: a little bit of a celebrity gossip drama allegations, allegations, 648 00:28:41,584 --> 00:28:44,984 Speaker 1: so many allegations, and the allegations in this case are 649 00:28:44,984 --> 00:28:46,984 Speaker 1: about one young Justin Bieber. 650 00:28:47,864 --> 00:28:49,624 Speaker 3: Okay, this saddens me. 651 00:28:49,824 --> 00:28:53,784 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber was, Yeah, what's your relationship to Justin Bieber? 652 00:28:53,824 --> 00:28:55,824 Speaker 1: You are what do they call it? A believer? A believer? 653 00:28:57,584 --> 00:29:00,624 Speaker 3: I was a little bit. I wasn't like obsessed obsessed like. 654 00:29:00,664 --> 00:29:03,024 Speaker 3: I wasn't one of those girls, well basically because I 655 00:29:03,064 --> 00:29:05,464 Speaker 3: wasn't allowed. But when he came to Sydney and was 656 00:29:05,464 --> 00:29:07,384 Speaker 3: on Sunrise, I wasn't allowed to take. 657 00:29:07,664 --> 00:29:11,304 Speaker 1: You were at school and stampede. Didn't a girl break 658 00:29:11,304 --> 00:29:13,104 Speaker 1: her leg? A girl broke her leg? 659 00:29:13,224 --> 00:29:16,144 Speaker 3: Correct, because there were so many people they'd went anticipating 660 00:29:16,184 --> 00:29:18,384 Speaker 3: they had to move studios halfway through. So you just see, 661 00:29:18,504 --> 00:29:21,384 Speaker 3: which is the worst idea because crowds of these young 662 00:29:21,424 --> 00:29:24,504 Speaker 3: girls like running through Martin Place like crazy. 663 00:29:24,944 --> 00:29:26,064 Speaker 1: But what I did. 664 00:29:25,944 --> 00:29:28,304 Speaker 3: Enjoy about him was when do you remember when a 665 00:29:28,384 --> 00:29:30,624 Speaker 3: believer stole his purple cap? 666 00:29:30,824 --> 00:29:31,224 Speaker 1: Yeah? 667 00:29:31,264 --> 00:29:34,864 Speaker 3: And then Channel seven did an investigation and like filmed 668 00:29:34,864 --> 00:29:35,984 Speaker 3: her giving it back. 669 00:29:35,784 --> 00:29:37,984 Speaker 1: To his team. And he did not think it was 670 00:29:37,984 --> 00:29:38,344 Speaker 1: a joke. 671 00:29:38,504 --> 00:29:39,864 Speaker 3: No, he did not think it was a joke. It 672 00:29:39,904 --> 00:29:42,744 Speaker 3: was quite scary. I do remember, like I looked her 673 00:29:42,784 --> 00:29:43,784 Speaker 3: up a few years ago. 674 00:29:43,864 --> 00:29:45,864 Speaker 1: Oh, how she doing? Howd she find her? Oh? 675 00:29:45,904 --> 00:29:50,464 Speaker 3: I found her on LinkedIn. She's like an environmentalist for 676 00:29:50,584 --> 00:29:51,384 Speaker 3: the government. 677 00:29:51,784 --> 00:29:56,464 Speaker 1: Linked profile, say environmentalist slice Justin Bieber hat thief? Unfortunately not, 678 00:29:56,544 --> 00:29:58,904 Speaker 1: but I might give her that recommendation. Yeah she should. 679 00:29:58,984 --> 00:30:00,624 Speaker 1: She could be like she needs to do one of 680 00:30:00,664 --> 00:30:03,424 Speaker 1: those like oral histories with like Vanity Fair or something 681 00:30:03,504 --> 00:30:05,984 Speaker 1: there about the hat theft. Can I say, I actually 682 00:30:05,984 --> 00:30:07,864 Speaker 1: do think that that story ties into what I'm about 683 00:30:07,944 --> 00:30:11,984 Speaker 1: to say, because so much about because I know I 684 00:30:12,024 --> 00:30:14,144 Speaker 1: produced would have just cut that out. Yeah, So I'm 685 00:30:14,144 --> 00:30:15,984 Speaker 1: going to make it impossible to cut by tying an 686 00:30:16,064 --> 00:30:18,704 Speaker 1: into it and saying now, which is so much about 687 00:30:18,704 --> 00:30:21,384 Speaker 1: what has happening to Justin Bieber at the moment has 688 00:30:21,464 --> 00:30:23,744 Speaker 1: been linked back, both through what he said and just 689 00:30:23,784 --> 00:30:26,344 Speaker 1: I guess general knowledge of his career to the fact 690 00:30:26,344 --> 00:30:29,824 Speaker 1: that he became so famous so young that now that 691 00:30:29,904 --> 00:30:34,024 Speaker 1: he's just turned thirty one, he's having almost that moment 692 00:30:34,024 --> 00:30:36,184 Speaker 1: of wanting to like walk away and like step waves 693 00:30:36,344 --> 00:30:39,264 Speaker 1: from his career because he's like fatigued by it that 694 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,344 Speaker 1: most people would have in their fifties and their sixties, 695 00:30:41,344 --> 00:30:43,744 Speaker 1: because He's been famous for such a long time, so 696 00:30:44,344 --> 00:30:47,224 Speaker 1: there's been so many headlines in terms of like altercations 697 00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:49,864 Speaker 1: he's had recently with paparazzi. There's so many videos that 698 00:30:49,944 --> 00:30:52,664 Speaker 1: of him screaming at them. There's a video of him 699 00:30:52,704 --> 00:30:55,024 Speaker 1: at like public events like the super Bowl looking very 700 00:30:55,104 --> 00:30:57,744 Speaker 1: out of it, kind of slumping around dancing, like looking 701 00:30:57,824 --> 00:31:00,584 Speaker 1: very overly intoxicated and not in the same way as 702 00:31:00,624 --> 00:31:02,504 Speaker 1: like the people who are like partying around him are 703 00:31:02,504 --> 00:31:04,264 Speaker 1: and kind of like more of a because we say, 704 00:31:04,304 --> 00:31:06,824 Speaker 1: like a sad kind of way, like as an out 705 00:31:06,824 --> 00:31:09,664 Speaker 1: of it kind of way. So many times he's unfollowed 706 00:31:09,664 --> 00:31:12,024 Speaker 1: his wife and mother of his young son, Jack Blues, 707 00:31:12,024 --> 00:31:14,904 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber on Instagram, which is kind of such a weird, 708 00:31:14,944 --> 00:31:15,864 Speaker 1: kind of childish thing. 709 00:31:15,824 --> 00:31:17,944 Speaker 3: To do, but again blames it on the glitch. Then 710 00:31:17,944 --> 00:31:20,144 Speaker 3: I say, what all Instagram glitches do? They make you 711 00:31:20,184 --> 00:31:20,904 Speaker 3: unfollow your wife? 712 00:31:20,984 --> 00:31:23,584 Speaker 1: Only? Yeah, exactly once you guys have potentially had a 713 00:31:23,624 --> 00:31:25,944 Speaker 1: falling out. But this week all the headlines are around 714 00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:27,984 Speaker 1: a video that has come out from Coachella. So he 715 00:31:28,024 --> 00:31:30,264 Speaker 1: and Haley are at Coachella, They're in the audience, they're 716 00:31:30,304 --> 00:31:33,784 Speaker 1: kind of vibing away, listening to Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, yeah, 717 00:31:33,784 --> 00:31:36,384 Speaker 1: listen to Kendrick Mamma. And then Justin pulls out a 718 00:31:36,424 --> 00:31:38,624 Speaker 1: joint starts smoking it, and in the video you can 719 00:31:38,664 --> 00:31:41,544 Speaker 1: see Haley grab his fifteen year old brother by the 720 00:31:41,544 --> 00:31:43,824 Speaker 1: shoulders and like push him over to a different place 721 00:31:43,824 --> 00:31:46,184 Speaker 1: so that they're separated, so that he's not around the 722 00:31:46,224 --> 00:31:49,184 Speaker 1: smoke that's coming out. It's kind of an innocent moment, 723 00:31:49,264 --> 00:31:51,504 Speaker 1: I feel, but it's really blown up into these stories 724 00:31:51,544 --> 00:31:53,904 Speaker 1: and like tiktoks and stuff of like Haley Bieber has 725 00:31:53,944 --> 00:31:58,224 Speaker 1: to forcibly remove younger brother from Justin's drug use. Justin 726 00:31:58,304 --> 00:32:00,584 Speaker 1: like seems angry. Hayley had to step in and like 727 00:32:00,624 --> 00:32:03,464 Speaker 1: smooth down the situation, and it's just added to all 728 00:32:03,504 --> 00:32:05,864 Speaker 1: of these stories that are around the moment that he's 729 00:32:05,904 --> 00:32:08,344 Speaker 1: in this huge spiral and that Tea is kind of 730 00:32:08,384 --> 00:32:10,784 Speaker 1: and that not only is their marriage falling apart these 731 00:32:10,824 --> 00:32:13,304 Speaker 1: are the allegations, but that he's on some sort of 732 00:32:13,344 --> 00:32:16,104 Speaker 1: like terrible downward spiral of which he will never recover. 733 00:32:16,544 --> 00:32:20,664 Speaker 3: It's so interesting that video in particular, because I feel 734 00:32:20,744 --> 00:32:23,024 Speaker 3: like if there wasn't any video of like Hayley and 735 00:32:23,064 --> 00:32:25,224 Speaker 3: it's not like she like moved him out of the way. 736 00:32:25,264 --> 00:32:27,864 Speaker 3: She just put her hands on his brother's shoulder and 737 00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:30,104 Speaker 3: then like he just shuffled next to her. 738 00:32:30,544 --> 00:32:31,424 Speaker 1: And I feel like if. 739 00:32:31,264 --> 00:32:35,064 Speaker 3: That wasn't caught on video, this wouldn't even be a story. 740 00:32:35,264 --> 00:32:38,304 Speaker 3: Like we in marijuana in the US is like not 741 00:32:38,344 --> 00:32:41,224 Speaker 3: a thing anymore. Yeah, Like I've listened to an interview 742 00:32:41,224 --> 00:32:43,544 Speaker 3: and call her Daddy woo Wis Khalifa, and he was 743 00:32:43,584 --> 00:32:46,544 Speaker 3: talking about how like he's just constantly smoking twenty four 744 00:32:46,584 --> 00:32:49,464 Speaker 3: seven like a parent teacher interviews like everything. And I 745 00:32:49,464 --> 00:32:52,264 Speaker 3: think there's a huge double standard with these certain celebrities 746 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,944 Speaker 3: who are child prodigies because you will always see them 747 00:32:54,984 --> 00:32:55,984 Speaker 3: as a sixteen. 748 00:32:55,704 --> 00:32:56,344 Speaker 1: Year old kid. 749 00:32:56,584 --> 00:32:59,024 Speaker 3: They'll never be able to grow up. And then he 750 00:32:59,104 --> 00:33:02,424 Speaker 3: hasn't even done anything that requires like the spotlight to. 751 00:33:02,384 --> 00:33:02,824 Speaker 1: Be on him. 752 00:33:02,864 --> 00:33:05,944 Speaker 3: He hasn't done any new music recently. He hasn't like 753 00:33:06,264 --> 00:33:09,064 Speaker 3: done any acting gigs. I think the reason why he's 754 00:33:09,144 --> 00:33:11,864 Speaker 3: so famous right now on the spotlights because he's just 755 00:33:11,904 --> 00:33:14,984 Speaker 3: had his baby. And also Hailey Bieber is still very 756 00:33:15,064 --> 00:33:16,624 Speaker 3: very famous, Like I would say, she's just way more 757 00:33:16,664 --> 00:33:17,224 Speaker 3: famous than. 758 00:33:17,144 --> 00:33:18,064 Speaker 1: He is right now. 759 00:33:18,424 --> 00:33:23,504 Speaker 3: And I can understand his frustration in the paparazzi and 760 00:33:23,544 --> 00:33:26,584 Speaker 3: everything hounding him, and he's done some really weird and 761 00:33:26,744 --> 00:33:30,464 Speaker 3: quite scary Instagram stories about it and like his anger 762 00:33:30,544 --> 00:33:33,464 Speaker 3: issues and things like that that he's literally not doing 763 00:33:33,504 --> 00:33:35,704 Speaker 3: anything to warrant like to be in the spotlight, and 764 00:33:35,784 --> 00:33:38,184 Speaker 3: yet paparazzi is still so obsessed with him, and so 765 00:33:38,344 --> 00:33:39,304 Speaker 3: are we by proxy. 766 00:33:39,544 --> 00:33:41,984 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, exactly, I think because all paparazzi videos of 767 00:33:42,064 --> 00:33:45,504 Speaker 1: him just go so viral because there's other celebrities that 768 00:33:45,544 --> 00:33:47,504 Speaker 1: are so where at that level of fame, that are 769 00:33:47,544 --> 00:33:49,984 Speaker 1: so kind of poised in front of the paparazzi cameras 770 00:33:50,024 --> 00:33:51,944 Speaker 1: and like they'll just look down, they'll look away, they'll 771 00:33:51,944 --> 00:33:53,984 Speaker 1: get out of the way really quickly, whereas he goes 772 00:33:54,024 --> 00:33:56,784 Speaker 1: over and will be like screaming at them, which again 773 00:33:56,904 --> 00:33:59,504 Speaker 1: kind of justified the amount that he's had like cameras 774 00:33:59,544 --> 00:34:01,504 Speaker 1: shoved in his face since he was a tiny kid, 775 00:34:01,784 --> 00:34:03,904 Speaker 1: and he's screaming at them like you don't care about people, 776 00:34:03,984 --> 00:34:06,424 Speaker 1: you don't have souls, you only care about money, all 777 00:34:06,464 --> 00:34:09,144 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, and then those of course go viral, 778 00:34:09,144 --> 00:34:11,024 Speaker 1: and it adds to this whole thing because we're like 779 00:34:11,064 --> 00:34:13,464 Speaker 1: people will forever be invested in the whole Justin Bieber 780 00:34:13,544 --> 00:34:16,704 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber relationship, because in our heads, it's such a 781 00:34:16,704 --> 00:34:18,784 Speaker 1: wild story of like she was in love with him 782 00:34:18,784 --> 00:34:22,184 Speaker 1: as a child. She was old documentary, Yeah, exactly. She 783 00:34:22,344 --> 00:34:25,344 Speaker 1: kind of trapped him into marriage. She had her friends, 784 00:34:25,344 --> 00:34:28,864 Speaker 1: her famous friends Kendall and Kylie Jenna, take Selena Gomez 785 00:34:28,904 --> 00:34:30,304 Speaker 1: away on a trip and like get her out of 786 00:34:30,344 --> 00:34:32,024 Speaker 1: the country so that she could hook up with Justin 787 00:34:32,024 --> 00:34:34,184 Speaker 1: Bieber and they would post a photo of it, and 788 00:34:34,224 --> 00:34:36,584 Speaker 1: that way it was kind of solidified that they were together. 789 00:34:36,744 --> 00:34:39,064 Speaker 1: All this kind of wild stuff, and as we know, 790 00:34:39,144 --> 00:34:41,304 Speaker 1: the more you post about those things, the more money 791 00:34:41,344 --> 00:34:44,264 Speaker 1: your TikTok videos make. It's like a whole situation. What's 792 00:34:44,344 --> 00:34:46,424 Speaker 1: kind of interesting is how this has kind of moved 793 00:34:46,464 --> 00:34:49,904 Speaker 1: away from tabloids and TikTok videos and has become like 794 00:34:49,904 --> 00:34:52,984 Speaker 1: a really mainstream conversation, which is when you kind of 795 00:34:53,024 --> 00:34:55,504 Speaker 1: know that the story around a celebrity is like downfall 796 00:34:55,544 --> 00:34:58,104 Speaker 1: and fame is it's become something that you can talk 797 00:34:58,144 --> 00:35:01,784 Speaker 1: about openly in a really professional setting, which I always 798 00:35:01,824 --> 00:35:03,944 Speaker 1: feel is interesting. Like that's when the conversation kind of 799 00:35:03,984 --> 00:35:06,824 Speaker 1: shifts because just a few days before that video from 800 00:35:06,824 --> 00:35:09,304 Speaker 1: Coachella started going viral of him pulling out the joint. 801 00:35:09,504 --> 00:35:13,024 Speaker 1: The Hollywood Report published a huge kind of investigation into 802 00:35:13,144 --> 00:35:15,784 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber's downfall, and the title of it is Justin 803 00:35:15,824 --> 00:35:18,464 Speaker 1: Bieber's Crisis of Faith with a little question mark, and 804 00:35:18,504 --> 00:35:21,144 Speaker 1: then the lead in is a bitter management shakeup, angry 805 00:35:21,184 --> 00:35:25,224 Speaker 1: public outbursts, a narcissistic pastor whose word is gospel. What 806 00:35:25,344 --> 00:35:27,704 Speaker 1: in God's name is happening to the once mighty pop 807 00:35:27,944 --> 00:35:30,304 Speaker 1: icon and then the poll quote at the top. A 808 00:35:30,304 --> 00:35:32,264 Speaker 1: lot of people in here aren't named. Some are, but 809 00:35:32,464 --> 00:35:34,424 Speaker 1: because it's a Hollywood Reporter and we know, like it's 810 00:35:34,464 --> 00:35:36,064 Speaker 1: like a People magazine, like not a page six, So 811 00:35:36,184 --> 00:35:38,624 Speaker 1: they go and check all their sources. They have spoken 812 00:35:38,664 --> 00:35:40,904 Speaker 1: to so many people who are close to Justin Bieber 813 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:43,544 Speaker 1: or who have worked with them before, who are and 814 00:35:43,584 --> 00:35:46,064 Speaker 1: for the first time coming out and saying that all 815 00:35:46,064 --> 00:35:48,744 Speaker 1: of these stories about what's happening to him are actually true, 816 00:35:49,144 --> 00:35:53,424 Speaker 1: which I find really, yeah, really interesting, And they're saying, like, 817 00:35:53,464 --> 00:35:56,344 Speaker 1: whatever he's going through, we're praying for him because he 818 00:35:56,744 --> 00:35:59,744 Speaker 1: recently got rid of his whole like over the American summer, 819 00:35:59,904 --> 00:36:02,464 Speaker 1: got rid of his whole professional team, and it was 820 00:36:02,544 --> 00:36:05,664 Speaker 1: kind of shaped as like the most successful artists in 821 00:36:05,664 --> 00:36:07,864 Speaker 1: the world managed themselves, like a taylorst of Tailors have 822 00:36:07,904 --> 00:36:10,384 Speaker 1: managers herself. But what Taylors is doing and what just 823 00:36:10,424 --> 00:36:13,264 Speaker 1: and Beaber doing I just seem like two very different things. 824 00:36:13,504 --> 00:36:16,104 Speaker 1: That's so true. And then so the article goes on 825 00:36:16,144 --> 00:36:17,904 Speaker 1: to like talk to a lot of people in his 826 00:36:18,024 --> 00:36:20,744 Speaker 1: life as well as kind of chronicling all the social 827 00:36:20,744 --> 00:36:23,824 Speaker 1: posts he said recently where he talks about hating himself 828 00:36:23,864 --> 00:36:27,424 Speaker 1: and he feels himself coming inauthentic, saying he's got anger issues. 829 00:36:27,864 --> 00:36:30,984 Speaker 1: And it's this idea of like most celebrities can do 830 00:36:31,024 --> 00:36:34,424 Speaker 1: a very curated social media push if they want to, 831 00:36:34,744 --> 00:36:37,264 Speaker 1: whereas his is like trying to be authentic, but it's 832 00:36:37,264 --> 00:36:39,104 Speaker 1: not authentic in the way of like some celebs who 833 00:36:39,144 --> 00:36:41,784 Speaker 1: show like the messy side of their life. It's him 834 00:36:41,864 --> 00:36:44,824 Speaker 1: kind of like almost like begging for help through his 835 00:36:44,984 --> 00:36:49,104 Speaker 1: Instagram posts, which is quite intense. And then they have 836 00:36:49,304 --> 00:36:53,744 Speaker 1: people close to him who are saying that he's going 837 00:36:53,824 --> 00:36:56,464 Speaker 1: through like a huge downturn. He's got rid of everyone 838 00:36:56,464 --> 00:37:00,024 Speaker 1: in his life. There's no one protecting him. Actually, one 839 00:37:00,064 --> 00:37:01,744 Speaker 1: of the people who's quoted here is one of his 840 00:37:01,904 --> 00:37:04,504 Speaker 1: very long term collaborators Poubert, who wrote like a lot 841 00:37:04,544 --> 00:37:08,064 Speaker 1: of his big number one songs, and they gave a 842 00:37:08,144 --> 00:37:11,144 Speaker 1: quote saying seeing him disintegrate like this, it's watching the 843 00:37:11,144 --> 00:37:14,304 Speaker 1: embodiment of someone not living their purpose. He's lost. There's 844 00:37:14,344 --> 00:37:16,664 Speaker 1: no one protecting him because there's no one willing to 845 00:37:16,664 --> 00:37:19,184 Speaker 1: say no to him. You say no, you get blown out, 846 00:37:19,464 --> 00:37:22,104 Speaker 1: basically kind of saying that everyone who who was trying 847 00:37:22,144 --> 00:37:23,704 Speaker 1: to look after him and say no to him has 848 00:37:23,744 --> 00:37:24,984 Speaker 1: been fired. Yeah. 849 00:37:25,064 --> 00:37:27,984 Speaker 3: I feel like though, like that part is not too surprising, 850 00:37:27,984 --> 00:37:29,624 Speaker 3: and I feel like that would be a lot of celebrities, 851 00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:32,064 Speaker 3: Like if you're saying yeah, if like someone tries to 852 00:37:32,064 --> 00:37:33,784 Speaker 3: stop them from doing something and they say no, then 853 00:37:33,824 --> 00:37:38,544 Speaker 3: you're done. But it's true, Like it feels really contentious 854 00:37:38,544 --> 00:37:40,904 Speaker 3: to talk about because it does feel like he is 855 00:37:41,144 --> 00:37:44,624 Speaker 3: unwell and he is like calling. Even the Instagram stories 856 00:37:44,624 --> 00:37:47,424 Speaker 3: that he posted months ago about him feeling like he 857 00:37:47,424 --> 00:37:49,504 Speaker 3: had imposter syndrome and he wasn't good enough and he 858 00:37:49,504 --> 00:37:52,104 Speaker 3: always thinks about how he's never felt good enough to 859 00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:55,744 Speaker 3: do this job was just like so sad, and it's 860 00:37:55,744 --> 00:37:58,144 Speaker 3: been going on for a really really long time, and 861 00:37:58,184 --> 00:38:01,504 Speaker 3: I think it was even last year where we've always talked, 862 00:38:01,504 --> 00:38:03,104 Speaker 3: like you and I have talked about Justin Bieben and 863 00:38:03,104 --> 00:38:03,984 Speaker 3: we're like do we cover it? 864 00:38:04,024 --> 00:38:04,384 Speaker 1: Do we not? 865 00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:06,304 Speaker 3: And like there was a point where it just felt 866 00:38:06,304 --> 00:38:09,384 Speaker 3: way too icky, yeah to talk about and still right 867 00:38:09,424 --> 00:38:12,944 Speaker 3: now still feels a bit icky because nothing officially has 868 00:38:13,024 --> 00:38:15,824 Speaker 3: been said about him, and I feel like it's one 869 00:38:15,824 --> 00:38:17,904 Speaker 3: of those stories and I feel like he's just gonna 870 00:38:18,184 --> 00:38:19,744 Speaker 3: keep going, which is so sad. 871 00:38:20,104 --> 00:38:22,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was so surprised to see this 872 00:38:22,544 --> 00:38:25,384 Speaker 1: big Hollywood reporter kind of deep dives, Yeah, peace come 873 00:38:25,464 --> 00:38:27,704 Speaker 1: up first that we've seen, Yeah, where we've seen like 874 00:38:27,704 --> 00:38:30,344 Speaker 1: a big traditional media outlet. Also, I guess they're not 875 00:38:30,344 --> 00:38:32,304 Speaker 1: looking for Justin Bieber interviews or they never were going 876 00:38:32,344 --> 00:38:33,944 Speaker 1: to get one, because it's as we've said before, with 877 00:38:34,024 --> 00:38:36,544 Speaker 1: like Vanity Fair doing like a beggar Markle takedown, Like 878 00:38:36,584 --> 00:38:39,624 Speaker 1: once you do that, you sever your relationship with that celebrity. 879 00:38:39,664 --> 00:38:41,544 Speaker 1: But they must have made the decision that this story 880 00:38:41,624 --> 00:38:43,904 Speaker 1: was going to be bigger than any kind of interview 881 00:38:43,904 --> 00:38:46,904 Speaker 1: they would get with Justin Bieber. And it's interesting because 882 00:38:46,944 --> 00:38:49,024 Speaker 1: there are with all the people in here who are 883 00:38:49,224 --> 00:38:51,904 Speaker 1: some names, some unnamed, who are saying that he's really 884 00:38:51,904 --> 00:38:54,824 Speaker 1: bad behind closed doors, like much worse than even the public. 885 00:38:54,824 --> 00:38:57,424 Speaker 1: And these all these viral videos are saying there's also 886 00:38:57,504 --> 00:39:00,224 Speaker 1: some people who say they're still part of his team, 887 00:39:00,344 --> 00:39:02,304 Speaker 1: and they say, you know, artists or artists, they don't 888 00:39:02,304 --> 00:39:04,064 Speaker 1: look at the world the way we do. He's healthier 889 00:39:04,144 --> 00:39:07,344 Speaker 1: than all of us physically and mentally, And then that 890 00:39:07,504 --> 00:39:09,864 Speaker 1: kind of feels like that's their like they've reached out 891 00:39:09,864 --> 00:39:12,144 Speaker 1: to Justin Bieber's team in it as someone has given 892 00:39:12,184 --> 00:39:14,624 Speaker 1: an unnamed source to kind of balance the story out. 893 00:39:14,784 --> 00:39:17,424 Speaker 1: But when the story actually came out, Justin Bieber's team 894 00:39:17,464 --> 00:39:19,704 Speaker 1: and he's like official, well, I guess it's him now 895 00:39:19,744 --> 00:39:22,984 Speaker 1: managing himself. But through a spokesperson said the article was 896 00:39:23,024 --> 00:39:25,464 Speaker 1: nothing but clickbait and had no idea what was going on. 897 00:39:25,704 --> 00:39:28,464 Speaker 1: So that's really the first time also that we've seen 898 00:39:28,544 --> 00:39:31,184 Speaker 1: him kind of almost acknowledge all of these memoriesments that 899 00:39:31,224 --> 00:39:33,664 Speaker 1: are going around and say it's not true. And I 900 00:39:33,664 --> 00:39:36,104 Speaker 1: feel like there's two groups of people watching. It's like 901 00:39:36,144 --> 00:39:39,984 Speaker 1: you have fans like yourself, the believers who were kind 902 00:39:39,984 --> 00:39:42,384 Speaker 1: of like, I'm assuming, it's like quite sad to watch. 903 00:39:42,584 --> 00:39:44,824 Speaker 3: It is sad because I feel like you always hold 904 00:39:44,824 --> 00:39:48,624 Speaker 3: out hope for like child stars, especially like the Disney 905 00:39:48,744 --> 00:39:52,984 Speaker 3: esque stars, and even like the Disney stars like Miley Cyrus, 906 00:39:53,064 --> 00:39:55,784 Speaker 3: Lindsay Lohan, like a lot of them do come out 907 00:39:55,944 --> 00:39:58,744 Speaker 3: on the other end and you become like big fans 908 00:39:58,744 --> 00:40:01,544 Speaker 3: of them again. And it just feels like Justin Bieber's 909 00:40:01,584 --> 00:40:03,344 Speaker 3: going through that, but he's at an age where he 910 00:40:03,344 --> 00:40:06,104 Speaker 3: should have gone through it, like ten years ago. Yeah, 911 00:40:06,264 --> 00:40:08,224 Speaker 3: and it's quite sad because he has a newborn baby 912 00:40:08,264 --> 00:40:10,784 Speaker 3: and he has a new wife and it's not only 913 00:40:10,864 --> 00:40:13,224 Speaker 3: just watching it through like his lens, but also their 914 00:40:13,304 --> 00:40:15,424 Speaker 3: lenses as well, and like what they're seeing and how 915 00:40:15,424 --> 00:40:17,224 Speaker 3: they're being portrayed in this as well. And one of 916 00:40:17,264 --> 00:40:19,944 Speaker 3: them has like a full documentary about it. It's actually 917 00:40:19,984 --> 00:40:22,744 Speaker 3: like roped them in and they're still really young at 918 00:40:22,784 --> 00:40:23,424 Speaker 3: the same time. 919 00:40:23,824 --> 00:40:25,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy to watch. And then you've got all 920 00:40:25,344 --> 00:40:26,904 Speaker 1: the people who are watching it kind of like they 921 00:40:26,904 --> 00:40:29,584 Speaker 1: watch Britney Spears just kind of like always every time 922 00:40:29,624 --> 00:40:31,384 Speaker 1: he posted new Instagram being like, Oh, what's he going 923 00:40:31,464 --> 00:40:33,624 Speaker 1: to do? Like what crazy thing is he going to say? 924 00:40:33,664 --> 00:40:36,144 Speaker 1: What crazy like allegation is he going to make? Like 925 00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:38,464 Speaker 1: what part of his house where he's doing something weird 926 00:40:38,504 --> 00:40:41,064 Speaker 1: is he going to show? It's like everyone watching for voyeurism, 927 00:40:41,264 --> 00:40:43,104 Speaker 1: which I kind of understand, is like, it is really 928 00:40:43,144 --> 00:40:46,664 Speaker 1: exciting when you get this kind of unfiltered look at 929 00:40:46,664 --> 00:40:49,744 Speaker 1: someone so famous, which is why every time something like 930 00:40:49,784 --> 00:40:52,464 Speaker 1: this happens, like I understand why people gravitate towards it, 931 00:40:52,464 --> 00:40:55,424 Speaker 1: because it's almost like this forbidden thing this moment. It's 932 00:40:55,464 --> 00:40:57,584 Speaker 1: like we're watching like Kanye like a rail against the 933 00:40:57,624 --> 00:41:00,264 Speaker 1: Kardashians or something like that. It's like this inner kind 934 00:41:00,264 --> 00:41:02,944 Speaker 1: of workings that we're not meant to see, but yeah, 935 00:41:02,984 --> 00:41:04,584 Speaker 1: it is. It is very disturbing to watch. But I'll 936 00:41:04,584 --> 00:41:07,184 Speaker 1: link the whole Hollywood Reporter article in the show notes. 937 00:41:07,224 --> 00:41:09,344 Speaker 1: There's obviously a lot of information, a lot of sources 938 00:41:09,344 --> 00:41:12,144 Speaker 1: in there if you're interested in reading the whole story. 939 00:41:12,424 --> 00:41:14,744 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 940 00:41:14,784 --> 00:41:17,464 Speaker 3: The Spill is produced by Amy Kimball with sound production 941 00:41:17,504 --> 00:41:19,384 Speaker 3: by Scott Stronik. And we'll be back here on your 942 00:41:19,424 --> 00:41:21,304 Speaker 3: podcast feed for weekend watch. 943 00:41:21,504 --> 00:41:27,784 Speaker 1: Bye bye,