1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: culture fix. My name's an Issus Warren. I'm the producer 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: of The Spill. But jumping in today because, as we've 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: teased La right, it's away on a very very very 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: exciting mission to interview two of the most famous people 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: in the world. And today I'm joined by Tina provis 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: and we're going to be jumping into your weekly math's 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: deep dive because we're right at the pointy and the 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: finale's just been and gone, yes, and now we are 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: entering the final week. 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: It's here and a lot has gone on that we 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: need to unpack. 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: I know, across just two episodes, so much was fit in, 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Like I can't even believe how much went down. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: To be fair, the first episode this week was like 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: an hour and a half, maybe more than that. 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: And the second was about an hour and forty five, 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: so they really it was a little mini movie. So 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: we obviously had the final dinner party, but before we 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: get into that, I just wanted to talk about one 21 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: weird moment because obviously there was a huge blow up 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: with Gia and Scott, but there was this moment before 23 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the dinner party when Scott was talking about Gea and 24 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: the camera just went in on his phone and he 25 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: was looking at this TikTok that Ga had posted. The 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: caption was when I'm crushing on you, but you're already mine. 27 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: I was like, were they posting these things while they 28 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: were filming the show? That's wild. I think they would 29 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: have been. 30 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 2: I guess it was so far beforehand, like you would 31 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: have had access to your socials. I assumed that they 32 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: lose their socials once the show is on air, But 33 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: this year it feels like they've just been like posting 34 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: live alongside the show, which is interesting. 35 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like that. But then I was 36 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: thinking about it before, and I was thinking that nobody 37 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: would have known who they were at that point. But 38 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: they have the leaks. 39 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: Yes, things do start to leak, like they always have 40 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: like shots of like where the first proposals are and 41 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: images of that. So I think some of the cast 42 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: may have been out of the time. And I also 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: think people before they go on a reality show, they 44 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: start to build up their socials. True, you've got to 45 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: do the pre work. Yeah, yeah, I know, she was 46 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: getting in soon. I actually didn't notice that. That's a 47 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: little Easter egg detailing. 48 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just noticed him when he was doing his 49 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: sad little scroll before the dinner party, setting the scene. 50 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, he's so real for that though, like talking 51 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: to someone's socials, when you're offered at the when you're 52 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: fighting your boyfriend and you're obviously Daran Scott took up 53 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the bulk of the dinner party, but there were a 54 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: few other things that happened. One thing that I thought 55 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: was interesting was when Beck sat down and she decided 56 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: just tell Stella Danny said he's falling in love with me, 57 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: and then Stella straight away it goes, please, You're falling 58 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: in love Danny, And it was so awkward, So I 59 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: don't know he ever got his face just dropped. 60 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: It was like a dropped Pire also thought it was 61 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: funny that Beck was like, that was for me telling 62 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: you Sella like this brings me back to finger bang Gate. 63 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: You were running your mouth all around that retreat. Now 64 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: it's come back to bite your dog. 65 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: Whether it's finger banging or I love you, it's all 66 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, same thing. But do you think that 67 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: he actually because I got the impression she had interpreted 68 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: something that he said as him saying he was falling 69 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: in love with her, but it would have been something 70 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: just like are we getting along better? 71 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't even really dive into that. But I 72 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 2: do agree. I think saying that you're falling in love 73 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: with someone it's always just feels noncommittal to me because 74 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: you're not actually saying that you're in love with someone. 75 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: I feel like, hold off and tell her in love 76 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: you like Shalana, and then you're in love. You don't 77 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: need to tell me you're falling in love. You're actually 78 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm always you're always falling in love until you're not 79 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: in love if. 80 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: You're falling in love. But I see your point. It's 81 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: bitten on committal. Yeah. But then if someone told me 82 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: they were falling in love with me, I assume we're 83 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: going to get to the point where they love me. 84 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: I think it's like a dating show thing, like even 85 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: for like my time on Lover Island, Like I have 86 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: people say like, I'm starting to fall in love with you. 87 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I don't want you to be starting. 88 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: You should be just be there, We should be there, 89 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: get there quick. So I wonder if it is what 90 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: you're saying that he's implied that he's falling. You could say, 91 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm falling for you. 92 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: True. That man just looked so shocked when it was 93 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: said that it was news to him. He did not 94 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: know he was falling in love with her until that moment. 95 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: I do think to some degree he must be feeding 96 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: her a narrative, though. 97 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: Maybe it is crazy that she would be this delusion. 98 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, how could she think that there is anything 99 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: possibly between them? And she does like stand her ground 100 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: and backs the relationship when she's like asked upon it 101 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: by the group, and you could she seems convinced. 102 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to this as well when we talk 103 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: about the final vows, but I will see I do 104 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: think maybe the intimacy aspects played into it, because obviously 105 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: they weren't having sex and then they started having sex, 106 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: and I feel like maybe some feelings got a little 107 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: bit confused there. But we do need to talk about 108 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: Alyssa and David at the dinner party as well. 109 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Alyssa's ark is crazy, I know, like I just it's 110 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: so interesting to see from the start she did come 111 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: in really big personality, bold knew what she wanted and 112 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: you saw that in their initial proposal where she makes 113 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: you know David get on his knees to propose to her, 114 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: and they have a little bit of tension at the start, 115 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: but then we quickly see that storyline turn around and 116 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: they've become this very happy couple. We don't see much 117 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: of them throughout the whole three months of the experiment. 118 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: The whole season. We knew they had sex in the 119 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: sauna and he hurt himself, That's what I remember. That's 120 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: like episode two, I know, and then they just went 121 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: quit and then we knew nothing about them until the 122 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: last three episodes, last three weeks, and I think we 123 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: really saw Alissa's true colors. Yeah, and then in this 124 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: dinner party episode, he did what she wanted this whole time. 125 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: He got down on his knees because they'd had this 126 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: big fight and they'd taken off their wedding rings. But 127 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: now he's like, it's never coming off again. He said that, 128 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, he knows that she's the one for him, 129 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: and he was making all these huge declarations. 130 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: The argument doesn't even make any sense. Eliza was so 131 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: angry that he took his wedding ring off. She was like, 132 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: I would never do that, Like, babe, you threw your 133 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: wedding ring. 134 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: You did do it. 135 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: You literally throw it off and then you walked off 136 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: in your matching active were set. 137 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy, And the worst part about it 138 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: all was it the argument stemmed from her flirting with 139 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: her alternative match and him seeing the video of that 140 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: in the alternative match task where they bring out other 141 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: people you could have vibed with, and she was flirting 142 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: with him like she was like, oh he got mad 143 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: seeing me socialized. I'm like, that's just networking. It was 144 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: a business venture, dari what are you networking for? Know? Crazy? 145 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm sad to see how it's played out with them, 146 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: because David seemed really sweet. 147 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: They looked like they had a. 148 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: Really genuine connection up until this point. But who knows 149 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: what we've kind of missed on the cutting room. 150 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, did we just think that had a genuin 151 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: connection because we didn't really see anything to the contrary. 152 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Also found it really odd how all this was going 153 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: on in a little sofa in like the corner of 154 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: the dinner party and everyone else just like hey watching, 155 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: it's like silent. Yeah, Okay. The bulk of this episode 156 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: was spent on Gea and Scott having a huge fight 157 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: that obviously led to them leaving the experiments the way 158 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: Jay likes the episode to make out that's what she wanted, 159 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: a plant. She got a lot of airtime. I was 160 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: so confused about this fight. I get that she lied 161 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: him about flying to Melbourne and she was actually in 162 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: Sydney the whole time, but can you elaborate? Okay, So 163 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: obviously Jaa has a blow up every single week she 164 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: threatens to leave. But last week what happened was Scott 165 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: was really keen on finishing the experiment, and Jay's like, no, 166 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I want to leave. I love you. I want you 167 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: to leave with me. 168 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Two reasons really unexplained to the audience, Like I don't 169 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: know why g is trying to leave and why she 170 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: can't just have her final moments with Scott. But I 171 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: think the experiment of the passion was getting to her. 172 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: For one reason or another. She wants to leave. Scott 173 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: doesn't want to leave, despite like saying that he would. 174 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: I think they had some kind of discussion. 175 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: This is so Love Island. It's like doing Villa together. 176 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: I know, but like let's just you got like three 177 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: days left, let's just let's see it through. 178 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: So then Gia storms off. 179 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: She says to Scott that she needs to go home 180 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: to her daughter, go back to Melbourne. And then this 181 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: week Scott finds out that that never happened. Gea got 182 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: to the airport apparently, but she never actually made it 183 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: on her flight to Melbourne. She's stayed in Sydney the 184 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: whole time, never seen her daughter, and has lied to 185 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: Scott and he's found. 186 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Out, Well, I think she said that her daughter came 187 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: to Sydney and stayed with her at the hotel. I 188 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: don't believe. Yeah, I don't believe that either. I don't believe. 189 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: That feels like a make good because even going into 190 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: the dinner party, there is a very specific like plot 191 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: between Gea and Beck to out victim the victim. 192 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: Yes, So they go into the bathroom together and Beck's like, Gea, 193 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: you know you need to do you need to cry, 194 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: you need to deliver yourself. She's like a crieze some out. 195 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you guys know your mic? Yeah, there's 196 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: actually a quote. 197 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: So Ja asked Beck what she should say, and then 198 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: Beck says something along the lines if you know, it's 199 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: not just about your relationship, like this is about all 200 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: of Australia. 201 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: This is your moment and if you can cry, that 202 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: would be great. I know it was crazy. I'm like, 203 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: this sounds it's something scripted from unreal. 204 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: I know, and it's so like, it's so bizarre firstly 205 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: to see them as friends quote unquote, and Beck like 206 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: driving it, Like what is her motive in like pushing 207 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: this agenda at the dinner party? 208 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: I know, I think they're real teaching here is that 209 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: if there's ever someone that you don't get along with, 210 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: this is a good little moral of the story to you. 211 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: Anyone can have a No. I was going to say, 212 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: anyone kind of a friendship redemption? 213 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: Well no, because I have another quote of something that 214 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: Beck has since there was footage that wasn't aired in 215 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: the show, and it was one of the pieces to 216 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: camera and it was Stella and Beck. And as part 217 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: of that, she like reveals that the whole reason that 218 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: she convinced Gea to come to the dinner party and 219 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: to you know, read her letter to Scott was because 220 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: she wanted to see them fail and she wanted her 221 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: to be embarrassed in front of the group. 222 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: This is the quote. Why did she admit this? I know? 223 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: So she says to camera, the only person who was 224 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: going to get her here was the friend that she had. 225 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: It was me. 226 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: And then she goes on to say, Jea fucks me 227 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: over and now you look like a dick. So Sea 228 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: her and her husband, I'm framing them and I'm selling them. Oh. 229 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: She's like laughing while she says this, and Sella is 230 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: like awkwardly laughing beside her. Who released these tapes? 231 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Nine? Oh, well, it's their tape. They want us to 232 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: see it. 233 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think they want us to see it. 234 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: So it's out there. It's out there in the universe. 235 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: So she is claiming that she is the one that 236 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: convinced Jia to come back to have her final moment 237 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: at the dinner party, which we do see play outs, 238 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: She's giving her this weird pep talk and then being 239 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: like a Chris Jenna, like. 240 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: Read your letter, Smitty, read your letter to squat, Scott 241 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: what Squatt? The producers have a lot to thank then 242 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: to Beck for basically manufacturing drama for an entire episode. Yeah. 243 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I think. 244 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: Beck also was talking about how Ga kind of was 245 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: an obstacle for her and Danny at the beginning, and 246 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: like how her and Danny are actually working through their problems, 247 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: and her and Scott always portrayed themselves as like perfect, 248 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: all butterflies and rainbows, and she was just really wanted 249 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: to prove that they weren't a happy couple. So it's 250 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,359 Speaker 2: actually quite malicious. 251 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get into talking about the final vows, 252 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: because we saw all the couples finish their journey in 253 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: the experiment, and we started with Alyssa and David. Can 254 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I just say the flashback to everything that happened in 255 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: their relationship before we saw their vows made me so 256 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: anti her. Just some of the things she said to him, 257 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: like I'm more high functioning more. It was bad. 258 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: She called him a weak man, really awful, and I 259 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: feel bad to admit, but I was like irritated watching 260 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: her speak, which. 261 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: I feel like, is a really mean thing to say. 262 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not fair. Yeah, I didn't realize how devoted 263 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: he to her. I think he just gave her chance 264 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: after chance, and he still seemed very on the fence 265 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: even after all the bad things happened. I mean, he 266 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: literally saw a video of her chatting with this alternate 267 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: match guy and she said it was just chit chat, socializing. 268 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Was obviously flirting and all she can go on about 269 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: is how he did the wrong thing by taking his ring. 270 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: Off, And it's wild even in the clips that were 271 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: shown to David, like Alisa is clearly flirting as you said, 272 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: and she also, you know, is admitting that you know, 273 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: her husband can be mad and she won't care, like 274 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: if she's flirting with someone else, like she doesn't care. 275 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: So obviously that is super hurtful, and I was surprised 276 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: that he even wanted to overcome it. I just feel 277 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: like they've gone through so much ready, but obviously he 278 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: wanted to see it through with her. And I just 279 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: don't understand why she's so mad about the ring thing, 280 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: because again, you took your ring off too, you threw 281 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: it his head. 282 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: I just can't Also, the juxtaposition of him when he 283 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: met his potential alternate match he went and hit in 284 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: the bathroom, which I'm not saying was the right solution either, 285 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: But you're out there flirting with this man and your 286 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: guy wouldn't even look his girl in the eye. No, 287 00:11:59,160 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: it's bizarre. 288 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: I think like in the past couple of weeks, seeing 289 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: how David has just been like silence, like he just 290 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: wasn't able to voice any of his opinions. Anytime you 291 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: want to speak, at least, we just talk over him 292 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: and you could see himself just like shrinking down. It 293 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: was similar to what happened with Scott. I feel like 294 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: they both really like had to minimize themselves. And if 295 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: we had seen a woman in a similar position, I 296 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: feel like there'll be much more conversation like around it. 297 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: But I feel like everyone's been backing David. 298 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's very telling that the other contestants 299 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: all seemed to back you. We're really defending the men 300 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: today up Scott. One thing that you confuse me is 301 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: on the last night they said they went back to 302 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: separate apartments, and I didn't know that was an option. 303 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Can you just book another apartment in the same block. 304 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Surely they've booked out like the whole block. Maybe it 305 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: was just a technical issue that came to mind. I 306 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: think they would have to do that. 307 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: Because like, you can't force someone to like like, you 308 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: want people to feel safe and comfortable. 309 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: That's true, you, I mean, you've got to have an out. 310 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: I hope we live in home. What I thought was 311 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: interesting when we got to the vows was that David 312 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: started off so kind. He was talking about their great chemistry. 313 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: He was saying all these really nice things about her, 314 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: and then it took a real turn and obviously he 315 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: ended up walking off and she got really upset. I 316 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, in your experience on Love Island, 317 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: when you get up and do those speeches, do they 318 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: try and tell you to not give away how it's 319 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: gonna end up. So you obviously start off from one 320 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: angle being maybe really positive before saying you're not going 321 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: to couple up with someone. I guess the nature of 322 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: like the little speech is that you give is a 323 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: little bit different because I feel like the vows are 324 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: quite like lengthy, and they obviously the nature of the 325 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: relationship as well as like a little bit more far 326 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: along than Love Island. But they do tell you to 327 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: deliver the speech without revealing who it's going to be, 328 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: but obviously it's quite obvious, like yeah, that's gonna be. 329 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: But I do think they definitely would have helped David 330 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 2: in his speech because it was amazing. 331 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: I loved his speech. I actually thought it was really 332 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: well written. 333 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: I was thinking halfway through I wondered if they just 334 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: like pop this in AI, like probably. 335 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they weren't not through Gemini. Yeah, yeah, his speech 336 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: was great. She obviously was very upset that she didn't 337 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: get to say hers, but I mean they weren't going 338 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: to end up together anyway, so I think she just 339 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: wanted to have the last word. And she was like, 340 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, you wasted three months of my life and 341 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: you won't even listen to me. She also said, I 342 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: love you David for who you are, but not for me. 343 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think you do love him. I 344 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: don't think you love him. 345 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: And another thing just on like whether they make you 346 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: like withhold, like the reveal putting him first as well, 347 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: like they would have known, they would have had a 348 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: chat like what's your speech going to be? What's your 349 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: speech going to be? And then they put the person first, 350 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: and they probably told him, maybe you walk off. 351 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: I reckon. 352 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: They said that would be great if you just walked off. 353 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: And I love that he did that, and I loved 354 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: what he said before he walked off. It was just 355 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: like so dramatic, like I feel like it's straight out 356 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: of a movie. He said, I'm not walking away because 357 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: I've stopped loving you, Alissa. I'm walking away because loving 358 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: you shouldn't been losing myself mic job. Yeah, I actually 359 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: liked that line, and I think it was really true 360 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: for him. 361 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it too. I think he handled that 362 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: really well. 363 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: Before we move on, I just loved how Alissa starts 364 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: reading her own speech out like she wants her final moment, 365 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: but the camera doesn't even want to be there, and 366 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: the camera leaves and no one hears the end of 367 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: her speech. 368 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: She probably still think she's having a moment the week 369 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: in the mic, she hasn't noticed they've taken it off, 370 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: they've packed up, they left. Yeah. Well, moving on to 371 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: something a little bit more positive in Rachel and Steep 372 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: and now I hate that I've come to love this 373 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: because initially at the start, I was like, there's no 374 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: way it's going to work out. Did you like them? 375 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Was a couple of stuff. No, I didn't like them. 376 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: I found them too cringey. Yeah, but you know, they 377 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: had a rocky start, But I thought it grew really nicely. 378 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: I always think it's sad when she says that line 379 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: about how I've never had a guy make me feel 380 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: okay with me being me. 381 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: I actually cried in her speech because I feel like 382 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: it'd be super relatable to like a lot of people watching, 383 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: especially women, and I think what she has to say about, 384 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: you know, feeling like she's too much or too much 385 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: of a big personality. 386 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: But it sounds like they found. 387 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: A really like comfortable space with each other because he 388 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: kind of echoed a lot of like the. 389 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Points that she was making as well. 390 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 391 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: I never expected Stephen to be the man to make 392 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: someone get over their insecurities and be so confident in 393 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: a relationship because he didn't even tell her she looked 394 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: beautiful on her wedding day, but he did, and he 395 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: had so much of his own insecurities as well. But yeah, anyway, 396 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: their vows I thought were really beautiful. At the start 397 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: of both their vows kind of like everyone, they really 398 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: rehashed all the negative. They dived into all the stuff 399 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: that went wrong with the start, And for a second 400 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: there I was like, hmm, maybe, yeah, I'm not ending 401 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: up to I just like to keep us guessing, don't 402 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: they They do? But I mean, you have done some research. 403 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Do you think they're still together? I don't think. 404 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. A source says that they're not. But 405 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: and then I know it's always a source, isn't it. 406 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: And then apparently like Steve's like done some nightclub appearances, 407 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: and it seemed to Steve has done some night club appearance. Yes, 408 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: I do not see that for Steve. I don't know 409 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: Steve and what steeldo Man's name. Joel, Joel and Steve 410 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: have done nightclub appearances, which seems to make more sense. 411 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: I see it for Joel, he's a drummer. I don't 412 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: really see it for Steve, he's the guy who with 413 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: the cheese and the crackers, and I know, well, that's 414 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: what happens after your reality show. Like apparently all the 415 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: nightclubs like want you out there? 416 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: You're like, apparently they never asked me. I've never done 417 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: a nightclub appearance. That was like the line that I drew. 418 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: I think that's something to be proud of. Yeah, it's 419 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: like an intentional choice. 420 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So now I think we have to talk about 421 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: a couple in which someone wins the award for being 422 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the most delusional person I have ever seen in my life, 423 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: and that is Beckoned Danny. Now, from the very beginning 424 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: of them this episode, we see her getting really emotional 425 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: about leaving the apartment. He does not care that man 426 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: does not care no, She's like, I don't want to leave. 427 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: She bad, So I don't think he makes a joke 428 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: about like wanting some girl with big boobs or something. 429 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: Oh, he says he's going to a business meeting with 430 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: a girl with big boobs, and she's say, oh my god, 431 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: stop it. He's probably not even lying. No, she's probably 432 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: be for real. He's networking. He's networking. Also, the juxtaposition 433 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: of them cutting to her and she's going, he's such 434 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: a sensitive soul, and then they just got to him 435 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and he's like, right, see you later. 436 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: It's literally in the tone of like their whole relationship, 437 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 2: Like would hate to think she's that delusional. And I 438 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: just think, like there has to be something he's given her, 439 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: like she has something to go off. 440 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Otherwise I would want someone to intervene if someone saw 441 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: me in that situation. It's embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. We 442 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: did an intervention. So Becky's completely delulu. The fact that 443 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: she says in her vows, Daniel, you're my best friend 444 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: is wild to me. In three months, what do they 445 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: even do? Like, what are they I don't even think 446 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: what do they even talk about? Yeah, I don't know. 447 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: I think their peak moment for me as a couple 448 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: was when the whole finger banging arc happened and they 449 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: were at the retreat and he was like, I'm going 450 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: to get you out of here. I don't like how 451 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: people are treating you. I was like, that's hot. Since 452 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: then not hot? Yeah, I think he just wanted to leave. Yeah, 453 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: I believe that. I have to say though, the location 454 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: for their vows was my favorite. They were in that 455 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: beautiful forest. If they were actually in love, it would have. 456 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: Been I feel like when it was in the forest, 457 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: I thought they're not this is not it really. 458 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, was not here. 459 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: It was just kind of giving like Twilight, but like 460 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: in a way that like like Edward is like leaving 461 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: Bella and she's like wandering around like giving new Moon energy. 462 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: It's giving new Moon. Imagine halfway through he's like, as 463 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: if you could out, yeah, just in the forest. I 464 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: have to say, after he basically dumped her and then 465 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: she was just stumbling around in the forest that is 466 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: coming up to it, being like you're okay, and she's 467 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: like I just want to get out of here. I'm like, 468 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: get the girl out of this forest, out of the forest. 469 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you can tell by the location sometimes, 470 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: like whether it's going to be like successful, and I 471 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: feel like Rachel and Stephen had a really nice location. 472 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: Elsia and David had some weird room. There was like 473 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: a smoke machinis he was walking out parlor. Yeah exactly. 474 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: It looked like a haunched house. And then we have 475 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: this forest, which I think ominous. I know it could 476 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: be like enchanted vibes, but it was. It wasn't giving 477 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: that to me, but total blindside from Danny delivered to Beck. 478 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Total blindside for her, not everyone else, not for us, 479 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: not for the viewer. 480 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: I feel like we all saw it coming, but it 481 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: was brutal because it really didn't line up with you know, 482 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: he would sit down on the couch each week at 483 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: these commitment ceremonies and like kind of talk about how 484 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 2: good they're going and how they're going in a good direction. 485 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: I think that man was in it for fame, so 486 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: we just wanted to be there till the end. I 487 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: don't think he was really in it about her. But 488 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: also he had this weird backtrack after he basically dumped her, 489 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: and then he was like, oh, but she took it, 490 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: so well, if only she had been so lovely like 491 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: this the whole way through, I would have been with her. 492 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're into her arm. She took the way 493 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: you dumbed her. 494 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: Well, Well, what I hated was he said that if 495 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: she could have been a lady like that, And he 496 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: also mentioned in his speech again I was annoyed about 497 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: this last week, but about how she's vulgar for a 498 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: woman like and I did not like that, Like, why 499 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: do you. 500 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: Have to add that? 501 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: I guess whatever, if that's if someone is vulgar and 502 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: you don't like it, fine, But because he always adds 503 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: on I want a lady, I want like too vulgar 504 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: for a woman. 505 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: That just sits wrong with me. 506 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: Again, he might just not be expressing himself very well. 507 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the most eloquent man. I 508 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: was just going to say, I don't think he is. 509 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if he understands his feelings and if 510 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: he's like expressing himself in the clearest way possible. So 511 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But yeah, 512 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 2: that just like sat funny. 513 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: We were talking about after reality shows people doing club appearances. 514 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: I think he would be a peak contender for a 515 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: club appearance. 516 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: For sure he's going to be up in that club 517 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: with his striper friend. 518 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go look over the es. 519 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: Danny also says, you know, Beck, you are my soulmate, 520 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: but like as a friend, do you? 521 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? I mean I probably said that 522 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: to like girl best friends or we've been friends for 523 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: like ten years. No, not like a guy that I've 524 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: like dated for three months and be like we saw 525 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: many friends, but that's the ultimate let down. I saw 526 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: but as a friend, as a friend only. 527 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: And since then, Beck actually has come out with a 528 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: statement where she says, I think Daniel had a goal, 529 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: and that goal was to make the final vows and 530 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: be on a TV show. I fell in love with 531 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: him during this time, but I fell in love with words, 532 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: not actions, which is what we were saying the whole time. 533 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the writing was on the walls, like what words? 534 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: What works? Did she fall in love with? Yeah? 535 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: True, I think, but I don't think we saw that. 536 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: Would we not have seen that? I feel like they 537 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: wanted us to be in on it, Like I think 538 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: production wanted us to know that Denny was not interested 539 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: to like make look Beck insane. 540 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: Release the tapes release tap. I mean, actually I'm done 541 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: with the tapes. That's just enough of the tape. I 542 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: don't want any more tapes. Well, to finish on something 543 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: really really cute. Actually, in my notes here Understella and Philip, 544 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: I just have like three hard emojis. I actually really 545 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: like this. It felt very old school Bachelor to me, 546 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: there by the Harbor Bridge, when you see the Harbor 547 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: Bridge and you know that they're ending up together. Yeah, 548 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: they're not wasting that money on a breakup. 549 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: It's interesting because I know you were very invested because 550 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: you text me and you're like, why am I so 551 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: emotional all over this right now? But I think it's 552 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: interesting because I think the couples in Maths that are 553 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: the strongest and the happiest. I found it really hard 554 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: to invest in them because we see the least screen time. 555 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because that's what makes it different from 556 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: The Bachelor or Love Ireland, because as it gears up 557 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 2: to the final you see so much of them and 558 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: you're like brought on that love story and it really 559 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: shows how these two different productions are so different because 560 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: one is clearly about love, because. 561 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: That's all we're fed. But for maths. 562 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: We don't see it till he's down on one day 563 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: and he's proposing. 564 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: See. Usually I do feel that way, but I think 565 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: that Stella and Philip had a little bit more than 566 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: normal the average happy couple just would. I mean she 567 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: was actually saying in their vows that she thinks she 568 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: knew within a few days that he won, which I 569 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: thought was kind of a little bitgger. I mean, already 570 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: getting engaged with him three months is pretty crazy. I 571 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: know it's a bit accelerated in everyone gets engaged. 572 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: Now. 573 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll wait for the wedding. I'll wait for the wedding. 574 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like people just get engaged and then 575 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: they never get married. So you're no, I've been to 576 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: engagement parties and then no marriage. I might where's the wedding? 577 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: At got you an engagement gift? Where's the wedding invite? 578 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: As think they broke up? All these fun planned it 579 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: yet broke up? Okay, so like show me the wedding. 580 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: All right, Well you heard it here first. She's not 581 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: taking it, I believe it. Well. I guess that sort 582 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: of brings us to the end of our little finale coverage. 583 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: But there is still the reunion next week, So there's 584 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: more to come. Never fear, No, I think we're going 585 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: to be in for a good treat now. We saw 586 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: in the shorts advertising the reunion there was some yelling. 587 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: Beck was yelling something new, and in past years we 588 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: have seen crazy stuff happen at these reunions. Hey, we 589 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: never know. 590 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: What's going to happen because there's also sometimes some couple swapping, 591 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: cross pollination. 592 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Cross prolanation. 593 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: You have like Evelyn and Duncan, who are still a 594 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: really strong couple, but they weren't originally matched together, so 595 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: who knows what we're going to see this season. And 596 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 2: they all fraternize, Yeah, they're all hanging out like a 597 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: lot goes on after the show, and they have had 598 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: a lot of time, so they've been cooking. 599 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Well, I was going to say you would 600 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: know this, like after the show, you're going to all 601 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: the same events. I imagine you're getting invited to all 602 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: the same things. 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