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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Parents Anonymous.
Speaker 1: This is your safe space where you can spill your
Speaker 1: worst parenting moments and will basically praise you for them,
Speaker 1: or not always praise you. You like critique a little.
Speaker 3: There's vibe criteria, checks and balances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're here to make you feel better about them.
Speaker 3: Yes. So it's Parents Anonymous. So you share your story
Speaker 3: and get the guilt off your chest, and we give
Speaker 3: you points based on our very serious and scientific grading
Speaker 3: system aka vibe check. But the trick is the worst
Speaker 3: parent you are, yeah, most likely, and it changes week
Speaker 3: to week depending on our mood. And hence what we
Speaker 3: said about the vibe check. Hormonal cycles do impact tolerance
Speaker 3: levels and that's fine, but basically, the worst you are,
Speaker 3: the more points you'll get.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm feeling particularly fisty today speaking of the hormonals. Ohack,
Speaker 1: have we sind up?
Speaker 3: Maybe a little cute?
Speaker 1: So before we get into that, we always make sure
Speaker 1: that it is a trusted space where we confess something ourself. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I've kind of stuffed up this week. I've been
Speaker 1: an excellent parent.
Speaker 3: Oh Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 3: Is that what you think? Nothing to confess?
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 3: Well, it just so happens that my Instagram addiction and
Speaker 3: stalking has come into play because I believe that you
Speaker 3: took your three year old to a movie.
Speaker 1: I did a G rated movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, but what is the minimum age for popcorn? Stacy Hicks,
Speaker 3: You're about to say, popcorn.
Speaker 1: To a three year old is not allowed.
Speaker 3: I learned this for the first time from me. So
Speaker 3: you risked your child's life in a movie. I completely
Speaker 3: forgotten about this very moment, and then I put it
Speaker 3: on a public forum, so it days. I looked it
Speaker 3: up just because I wanted to make sure I knew
Speaker 3: what I was talking about. But popcorn is considered a
Speaker 3: choking hazard for children under four years old by the
Speaker 3: American Academy of Pediatrics.
Speaker 1: I did spiral slightly. I have never given my daughter
Speaker 1: popcorn before because I was one of those I told
Speaker 1: you before cutting control freak. I cut the grapes, cut
Speaker 1: squished the blueberries. Still still three at three, she complains
Speaker 1: about it. It's okay, sorry, sorry for caring, but I'm
Speaker 1: saving your life.
Speaker 3: Sausage, no circles.
Speaker 1: Everything's in a stick form anale.
Speaker 3: This is not how I parented.
Speaker 1: This is the only reason my child's living and breathing
Speaker 1: today thanks to me cutting everything.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how mine are alive, from toddlers
Speaker 3: to tweens, because my confession this week is we went
Speaker 3: on a little holiday and it was lovely. I a
Speaker 3: r I took my mom, so Nana was there, and
Speaker 3: I took my twelve and nine year old boys and
Speaker 3: we had absolute best time. On the first day, they
Speaker 3: have you know, like PSA's popping up on the screens
Speaker 3: and they were like minors must be in bed or
Speaker 3: away from public areas by one am, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, Like.
Speaker 1: Who's letting them stay up for that? It's so weird.
Speaker 3: And then on the last night, they had a nineteen
Speaker 3: eighties dress up theme. Now that is a youth theme
Speaker 3: dress up theme if ever I have heard one, and
Speaker 3: so perfect. We all dressed up, except my mom didn't.
Speaker 3: She's not as out there as us. And they had
Speaker 3: like an outdoor band and they had the cruise director
Speaker 3: and the people doing organized dance offs and sing offs.
Speaker 3: And then at one point Nana was like, I'm going
Speaker 3: to and I was like no, no worries. I got
Speaker 3: this and I let my kids stay one. Were you
Speaker 3: the one that got pulled over by the cruise police
Speaker 3: say get these children back to their room. No, because
Speaker 3: there were a lot of kids out. I just feel
Speaker 3: like the regular rules of society do not apply at sea.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good parenting movie because of the
Speaker 3: core memory exactly it's bonding and time.
Speaker 1: What is time? We care?
Speaker 3: Julie partied like it was nineteen eighty nine. I love it,
Speaker 3: But it was the next day. It was like they
Speaker 3: had to hangover. Yeah, so the very very tired we
Speaker 3: borrowed a lot of fun. Yeah yeah, from the day
Speaker 3: famously popcorn and partying.
Speaker 1: That's us. I didn't explain the rest of the popcorn story.
Speaker 1: I have never given her popcorn. Before she saw the popcorn, it.
Speaker 3: Was free that I didn't even know this rule existed.
Speaker 3: You're fine.
Speaker 1: I whispered the entire movie too, Kelly, so as not
Speaker 1: to disturb anyone while she was eating it. And she survived.
Speaker 1: But me saying that on my Instagram story did send
Speaker 1: a lot of other parents spiraling, telling me that they
Speaker 1: weren't aware.
Speaker 3: Of my or just didn't know it was a rule.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just didn't know it was a rule. They
Speaker 1: didn't know was a risk.
Speaker 3: So really, I've saved other children's lives potentially, so ten
Speaker 3: out of ten to me, you need to move on
Speaker 3: from squishing the blueberries. Yes, Troublebrosa. This show does not
Speaker 3: exist without your guilty confessions. And as you can see,
Speaker 3: you know we release ours. I feel better, I actually
Speaker 3: feel a bit proud. Actually, you can leave us a
Speaker 3: voice note, or if you want to be fully anonymous,
Speaker 3: you can email us and we'll even read them out,
Speaker 3: which we insufferably quite enjoy. Anyways, really do character voiceover. Yes,
Speaker 3: and thank you to the people who continue to send
Speaker 3: us your confessions. They bring us so much joy in
Speaker 3: our otherwise bleak lives. And you can have a look
Speaker 3: in the show notes for your confession options.
Speaker 1: Yes, and on today's show, our mystery confessions, which we
Speaker 1: haven't heard yet are called present Bouncer, cupcake, fraud, relatable,
Speaker 1: and perks are.
Speaker 3: For adults only aligned to proved hmm. Agreed, Let's go
Speaker 3: all right. First one present bouncer and I will read
Speaker 3: this out for full anonymity. I check all the gifts
Speaker 3: that my kids receive for both their birthdays and Christmas.
Speaker 3: I then hide anything that makes too much noise or
Speaker 3: a mess, like five hundred piece puzzles, drums, or make
Speaker 3: your own bracelets with one thousand beads. My kids don't
Speaker 3: know they never got the gift, and I always send
Speaker 3: thank you cards to the giver. That's thoughtful, good etiquette.
Speaker 3: The gifts that don't pass my mess level are either
Speaker 3: regifted for someone else's birthday or I donate them. I
Speaker 3: do not have time in my life to clean up
Speaker 3: one thousand beads. In fact, I am mad that they
Speaker 3: even sell them.
Speaker 1: Okay, my first question, you don't have time for the
Speaker 1: thousand beads, which I am very alied to. No one
Speaker 1: has time for anything with beads, anything with glitter, anything
Speaker 1: with little parts that you could step on in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night.
Speaker 3: BlimE is banned from my house. BlimE, yes, stains carpets.
Speaker 1: And even stickers I'm not that great on they stick.
Speaker 1: My daughter sticks them to blankets and then you can't
Speaker 1: get them off. But you've got the time to go
Speaker 1: through all the presents, which I assume some of them
Speaker 1: are wrapped. So what are we doing there to suss
Speaker 1: out what the present is. Are you memory raprapre just
Speaker 1: doing a very dodgy resealed job.
Speaker 3: So it's not only is she unwrapping and then potentially rewrapping,
Speaker 3: she needs to have an Excel spreadsheet to monitor and
Speaker 3: track who gave what gift so she doesn't regift back to.
Speaker 1: The imagine exactly. Although you've got the perfect cover in
Speaker 1: that situation, because you can go, well, you thought my
Speaker 1: child would like it so much.
Speaker 3: I got it. It was such a good idea.
Speaker 1: Such my child loved it so much.
Speaker 3: And then also you can only do this for a
Speaker 3: certain amount of time as well, like you've got an
Speaker 3: age kind of yeah limit because also they must be
Speaker 3: very small. But no, then why would they have bracelets
Speaker 3: one thousand bs? It's because and what's at a tree
Speaker 3: arge system? Like how are you getting the presence away
Speaker 3: hands to the child? And you go, oh no, no,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna pop this in hair for the sorting pile, yeap,
Speaker 3: which is, as we know, a culing system with an
Speaker 3: Excel spreadsheet, re wrapping, unwrapping thank you.
Speaker 1: Cards as well, you're doing a lot, you're doing a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, but she really is saving herself. In
Speaker 1: the meantime, she doesn't have slime, she doesn't have beads
Speaker 1: or glitter. I do because I'm too lazy to do
Speaker 1: this system.
Speaker 3: I'm in two minds because I think this is very
Speaker 3: good for Cosey lives in terms of the regifting genius.
Speaker 1: She's taking a little cut of the child's presence, of
Speaker 1: which I'm sure they got lots anyway.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. Children are too spoilt these day.
Speaker 3: Yes they don't need all the things. But you know
Speaker 3: where it comes in for me, the inauthenticity, the line
Speaker 3: to the children.
Speaker 1: You know what, Now you've said this, I'm going to
Speaker 1: gift all kids glitter and see if you like it.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with glitter is just slime, hardline slime. Everything
Speaker 3: else is I'm going to give them a bulk pack
Speaker 3: of slime, and I'm going to hand it to them
Speaker 3: in a gift bag so they can see immediately what's inside,
Speaker 3: so you can't take it away. Mom does Okay, we
Speaker 3: do Father Christmas, we do lighter kids. So I've just
Speaker 3: got to put that because that's my little bugbear. That's
Speaker 3: my issue, not this.
Speaker 1: Please. We lie to them all the time.
Speaker 3: That's my issue. Okay, so that to the side. It's
Speaker 3: definitely saving a lot of headaches, but you are creating
Speaker 3: a lot more admin And yet the Excel spreadsheet, the tracking,
Speaker 3: the thank you notes, the unwrapping and the rewrapping of
Speaker 3: the present. Yes, yep, you go first, because I just can't.
Speaker 3: I can't decide.
Speaker 1: I love a bit of organization, and I love that
Speaker 1: this is short term pain, long term gain. She's not
Speaker 1: dealing with these things for the months afterwards. She is
Speaker 1: having to do a lot at the time of the
Speaker 1: birthday or Christmas.
Speaker 3: She really is.
Speaker 1: But I like that she's gone, Nope, life's too short.
Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with those things in my house. I
Speaker 1: don't want them here. So this is how I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: So I like that. And a little bit of the
Speaker 1: lying to well, she's not lying to the kids. She's
Speaker 1: just not letting them see things that they didn't know.
Speaker 3: She was running a regifting side.
Speaker 1: Hustle, so it's a victimless crime. So I kind of
Speaker 1: like it. So I'm giving her eight and a half
Speaker 1: backs of slime out of ten, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you the same at Christmas.
Speaker 3: All right, Look, I think I'm going to give her
Speaker 3: nine beads out of ten, which went quite high. One
Speaker 3: I came around, thank you, thanks for getting me off
Speaker 3: the fence. I love it.
Speaker 1: And our second confession is called cupcake fraud. Something I
Speaker 1: feel like you know a little bit about.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, because I never pretend to bake,
Speaker 3: but I'm really intrigued to see the four senticity.
Speaker 1: Here we go. A few years ago, we had to
Speaker 1: make homemade items for a bake sale at school. It
Speaker 1: was specifically specified that it must be homemade, which I found,
Speaker 1: as you ladies like to say in.
Speaker 3: Insufferable blind approach, that.
Speaker 1: Is the most insufferable thing I've ever heard. So I
Speaker 1: obviously didn't bake, and I bought a bunch of cupcakes
Speaker 1: from the very pricey bakery in my suburb. Everyone loved
Speaker 1: them so much and wanted the recipe, so I had
Speaker 1: to play the whole I'll never tell, oh my god,
Speaker 1: but they have been my go to for all events,
Speaker 1: and then just last week the bakery announced they are closing.
Speaker 1: Rather than come clean or learn how to bake, I've
Speaker 1: been in every day for a week to balk by
Speaker 1: and freeze the cupcake far so I have them till
Speaker 1: at least my child finishes primary school next year.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was gonna say, wow, yeah, like seven years.
Speaker 3: They must have a few deep freezes.
Speaker 1: I was just imagining the energy bill of the multiple
Speaker 1: deep freezes you have in your garage.
Speaker 3: To fill up the cupcakes. Just to save face.
Speaker 1: Okay, first point, let's go back to them making you
Speaker 1: make homemade goods.
Speaker 3: Not aligned not a pro. First of all, I can't bake.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, there's a time issue, like time for
Speaker 3: I'm just really bad at it. They either turn out
Speaker 3: into rocks or very flat pancakes. To be a cake,
Speaker 3: I don't know how to get the density or the
Speaker 3: rising or unrising right. They taste bad. I even stuff
Speaker 3: up packet cakes.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I'm the same even when
Speaker 1: I do them from the packet. How can I make
Speaker 1: this wrong? I'm only just adding eggs.
Speaker 3: I don't understand. Or pancakes. You decide, choose your own adventure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not fun for you. You're not getting to eat. I
Speaker 3: wonder why they specified that you must make them. It's
Speaker 3: like why, Like maybe they're one of those schools where
Speaker 3: it's gluten friend. No, because she would have included that. Yeah. True,
Speaker 3: and if it's just like you know, packet cake, they
Speaker 3: have that on the side. Yeah, but I love.
Speaker 1: That you disobeyed the rules. It's my favorite thing that
Speaker 1: you've done that, mostly because I'm a goodie two shoes,
Speaker 1: and even though I'm a terrible, terrible cook, I would
Speaker 1: have still made them myself and had to deal with
Speaker 1: that embarrassment. You've just cut that out and gone Nope,
Speaker 1: not sticking with that. Yeah, I'll just go and buy some.
Speaker 3: Do you know what. I would have almost cooked them
Speaker 3: and just shown just how bad they can be as
Speaker 3: like a teachable moment. Yeah, this is why you shouldn't special.
Speaker 3: Why should have made me do this?
Speaker 1: This is your own fault that you're now feeding these
Speaker 1: to the children.
Speaker 3: We all have skills in life, yep. And if you
Speaker 3: make us do a skill that we're not good at,
Speaker 3: this is the outcome, and this is resilience training for
Speaker 3: you and your rules.
Speaker 1: This is what you get.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, so don't get upset. Yeah, just change the
Speaker 3: rules and let us Why.
Speaker 1: But I love that she then she still went with it.
Speaker 1: Like they've said, everyone loved them. Everyone asked her for
Speaker 1: the recipe. I'll ever tell and she's gone. No, I'm
Speaker 1: doubling down here. I'm not admitting it, because that's the
Speaker 1: difference between you and this lovely person. You proudly come
Speaker 1: in a quick stop across the road at the shops.
Speaker 1: I'm still in the plastic and say, bake sale tomorrow
Speaker 1: is sorted for your kids. So I love that she's
Speaker 1: just gone with this, and then tripling down the bakery
Speaker 1: is closing. You've got it sorted. You've got an alibi
Speaker 1: for the next year. Now this is actually further proof
Speaker 1: of her lie because if anyone suspected they were from
Speaker 1: the bakery, the bakery is now gone and the cupcakes remain.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not a baker, but when one do you
Speaker 3: frost's I sing? Doesn't that go yuck? Isn't it like
Speaker 3: you know, I'm really stretching. Isn't it like butter and
Speaker 3: sugar and I sink sugar. Then if you freeze butter
Speaker 3: and then at defrost, doesn't it go a bit?
Speaker 1: Haven't you seen these experiments people do where they'll put
Speaker 1: like a fast food burger in a cupboard for a
Speaker 1: year and they come back and it still looks fine,
Speaker 1: Like when sugar's in the equation I think they're indestructible.
Speaker 1: I think you could eat these in ten years. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's probably not actually safe, but I think that you could.
Speaker 1: And I think, look, if they're that good, even if
Speaker 1: they're like a seven out of ten compared to normal,
Speaker 1: they're still going to be pretty and.
Speaker 3: Better than what we could achieve.
Speaker 1: Pretty impressive. Yeah, better than anything we could do, and
Speaker 1: better than anything she could.
Speaker 3: Do under duress. Yeah, that we must provide a home
Speaker 3: baked solution.
Speaker 1: I love it. And she's actually just now meal prep too.
Speaker 1: She's just covered herself for the whole year. She doesn't
Speaker 1: have to think about this at alls.
Speaker 3: Taken mental load away for cupcakes sales. There's nothing, there's
Speaker 3: nothing to confess here. You're just a bloody genius. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm giving ten fraudulent defrosted cupcakes out of ten.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you ten deep for out of ten because
Speaker 1: that's probably how many you're going to need to keep
Speaker 1: all of these cupcakes until next year. But I love
Speaker 1: the commit to the lie. You've gone with a long game. Yes,
Speaker 1: you've got the perfect alibi now that the bakery is closed.
Speaker 1: Really they are yours. You did make them.
Speaker 3: You don't to the people and how dare they tell
Speaker 3: her to Yeah, you must bake.
Speaker 1: And thank you for using our favorite word, insufferable, so
Speaker 1: you get a bonus point for that. So you get
Speaker 1: eleven deep rases out of ten your.
Speaker 3: Service Confession number three, perks are for adults only. Correct, Yes,
Speaker 3: this sounds really bad, will be the judge of that.
Speaker 3: But our kids are really needy. Yep, they can be,
Speaker 3: they can Yep. They always want to spend time with
Speaker 3: my husband and I, and we absolutely do spend time
Speaker 3: with them. But when it comes to having a night
Speaker 3: out or a quick excursion without them, they whine and
Speaker 3: wine and wine, so we have to tell lies to
Speaker 3: be alone or get adult treats.
Speaker 1: Don't say the L word to the authenticity queen over
Speaker 1: the actual.
Speaker 3: Belt, hang on, hang on, like telling the kids who
Speaker 3: are thirteen and nine, I've got a lot of thoughts
Speaker 3: that we needed to go to Bunnings, knowing they would
Speaker 3: want to stay home, and we went out and got
Speaker 3: sushi for a little lunch date. In fact, we've been
Speaker 3: doing things like this for years. When they were much littler,
Speaker 3: we'd sometimes change all the clocks so we could put
Speaker 3: them to bed really early and we'd have more time
Speaker 3: to hang out as a couple. Okay, Look, I've got
Speaker 3: a lot of thoughts here. My first one is, look,
Speaker 3: they're very much not at risk of getting a divorce.
Speaker 1: Nice to really prioritize.
Speaker 3: Their marriage, yes, which I love for them. That's very cute,
Speaker 3: is very healthy and good for your marriage. And I
Speaker 3: want to just come back to the kids ages thirteen
Speaker 3: and nine. I don't feel like you need to lie
Speaker 3: to a teenager and teenager that you're going to Bunnings
Speaker 3: or going for a date.
Speaker 1: But what a cute family are they that those kids,
Speaker 1: even though there's a teenager there, they so badly want
Speaker 1: to be around their parents that they'll go with them
Speaker 1: if they're going out for That's very sweet.
Speaker 3: It is because you know what, most thirteen year olds
Speaker 3: don't want to know you exactly.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to know anyone thirteen.
Speaker 3: So it's so cute, very grateful this teenager wants to
Speaker 3: be around you, because soon they won't, and then you'll
Speaker 3: probably look back at this time and not feel great
Speaker 3: about all.
Speaker 1: The web of lies that you've created to get away
Speaker 1: from them. No, I kind of love it. I think
Speaker 1: it's smart. Can I ask about this clock trick? Does
Speaker 1: that work because you.
Speaker 3: Can definitely still do that. Did you tell time?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, she's three and a half. She absolutely cannot
Speaker 1: tell the time to say, but she can tell if
Speaker 1: it's light enough outside. She will not go to sleep
Speaker 1: until the Christmas lights.
Speaker 3: But daylight savings, that changes, so that's not reliable.
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's great you need to have your
Speaker 1: alone time, like it's so important to have your alone
Speaker 1: time together. I agree, and to have conversations that aren't
Speaker 1: them going ma'am, break my chops here.
Speaker 3: But you don't need to lie to a thirteen or
Speaker 3: nine year old that you're going to a date night.
Speaker 3: That's called healthy role modeling of a healthy relationship. They
Speaker 3: should be able to accept and tolerate and have the
Speaker 3: resilience to enable you to go out and have a
Speaker 3: movie night or a dinner out without them and know
Speaker 3: that they will be okay. I feel like my only
Speaker 3: issue is the inauthentic, because they should be resilient enough
Speaker 3: to be able to handle you not being there without
Speaker 3: you lying about it.
Speaker 1: I know, but people are busy, they've got things to do.
Speaker 1: They just want to get out of there without the winging,
Speaker 1: So they're just giving them a little white Lie. They're
Speaker 1: happy enough, they get to do what they want to do.
Speaker 1: Then I love it. I like to just go for it.
Speaker 3: The clocks thing is genius.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is genius and I will be trying that.
Speaker 1: So thank you for sharing that so we would.
Speaker 3: Have more time to hang out as a couple. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the golden standard of marriage, isn't it it is?
Speaker 3: That's very sweet, unrelatable as the divorces in the room,
Speaker 3: but I think definitely that's a very healthy, positive marriage.
Speaker 3: I just don't know about the healthy and positivity toxic
Speaker 3: line to the thirteen or nine year old about where
Speaker 3: you are, No, I think it's fine. I think it's great. Fine, Okay, Lie,
Speaker 3: Lie do it? Okay? What's your points then?
Speaker 1: To me? I don't think it's the worst thing to
Speaker 1: do because they are going and having their little dates.
Speaker 1: It's just at a different location than the one they're
Speaker 1: telling their children. It's not at Bunning's, is it sush
Speaker 1: it's giving mistress, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually fine that you do this. Therefore,
Speaker 1: your points are lower in my eyes, So I'll give
Speaker 1: you six sushi dates out of ten.
Speaker 3: Why have you taken points off.
Speaker 1: It's harmless.
Speaker 3: Parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the kids don't know you lied, so it's fine.
Speaker 3: Well, of course the inauthenticya you're going attack. I feel
Speaker 3: like a thirteen or nine year old should have the
Speaker 3: resilience to be able to deal with the fact that
Speaker 3: you want to have time about them, and you should
Speaker 3: be grateful that the thirteen year old I'm projecting here,
Speaker 3: but you would be so grateful that your thirteen year
Speaker 3: old not staying out with you because they won't soon.
Speaker 3: So for this, I think I'm going to because I'm
Speaker 3: torn because it's very good, it's very positive, you know,
Speaker 3: marriage and modeling and carving out time. So I'm really torn.
Speaker 3: But I think I'm just going to land on just
Speaker 3: sort of maybe eight little lies out of ten, because
Speaker 3: the lies the part for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been very very upset by that.
Speaker 3: I am okay. So declaring a winner for today, yes,
Speaker 3: I feel like so we had in my bones, I
Speaker 3: know who it is.
Speaker 1: But bouncer the person triaging all the presents and then
Speaker 1: deciding whether they're worthy of.
Speaker 3: Their child, unwrapping them in secret, re wrapping them, having
Speaker 3: an Excel spreadsheet.
Speaker 1: We assumed keeping a cut of the presence regive bloody
Speaker 1: gen that's great, cupcake fraud, lying, doubling down and then
Speaker 1: tripling down, saving of the face, and also meal prepping
Speaker 1: for the year.
Speaker 3: I love this. I won't tell you it's too good.
Speaker 3: It's too good.
Speaker 1: And then the perks are for adults the kids.
Speaker 3: The horny adults just can't get enough of each other
Speaker 3: and don't want to be around the kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, so I think it's pretty clear who we're
Speaker 1: loving the most this week. They're all brilliant, of course, But.
Speaker 3: It's the strategy behind the cupcakes yep. For me, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the really doubling down into that saving of face yep,
Speaker 3: and just filling up a deep reason really well baked
Speaker 3: cup fabulous. It's power to the people, and it's right.
Speaker 3: It's rebellion. It's forming a mission against people telling you
Speaker 3: that you must bake a homemade cupcake.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Good on you.
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Speaker 1: love to hear it. Please send us your secret shames.
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