1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:13,294 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. 2 00:00:14,094 --> 00:00:17,214 Speaker 2: Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,214 --> 00:00:18,894 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:22,134 --> 00:00:25,334 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma Mer's twice daily 5 00:00:25,414 --> 00:00:29,694 Speaker 3: news podcast, The Quickie. Three more years for Anthony Albanezi 6 00:00:29,814 --> 00:00:32,934 Speaker 3: in the top job after a landslide victory for Labor 7 00:00:33,094 --> 00:00:34,374 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty. 8 00:00:34,094 --> 00:00:35,494 Speaker 4: Five federal election. 9 00:00:36,134 --> 00:00:39,254 Speaker 3: Today we're unpacking what happened on Saturday, what it means 10 00:00:39,254 --> 00:00:42,494 Speaker 3: for the country's future, and what happens to Peter Dutton 11 00:00:42,614 --> 00:00:45,374 Speaker 3: now he's not only lost the election but his seat 12 00:00:45,414 --> 00:00:48,454 Speaker 3: at the table. Two before we get there, he is 13 00:00:48,494 --> 00:00:51,014 Speaker 3: Clare Murphy with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for 14 00:00:51,214 --> 00:00:52,654 Speaker 3: Monday May five. 15 00:00:52,894 --> 00:00:56,654 Speaker 2: Thanks Taylor. As vote counting continues after Saturday's election, the 16 00:00:56,734 --> 00:00:59,974 Speaker 2: numbers show the Coalition could slump to its lowest percentage 17 00:00:59,974 --> 00:01:02,694 Speaker 2: of seats in Parliament since the formation of the Liberal 18 00:01:02,734 --> 00:01:05,734 Speaker 2: Party in the nineteen forties. Seventy five percent of the 19 00:01:05,814 --> 00:01:09,294 Speaker 2: votes have now been counted, Labour claiming eighty six seats 20 00:01:09,294 --> 00:01:12,854 Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives compared to the coalitions thirty nine. 21 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:16,094 Speaker 2: Fifteen seats are still to be decided but the Coalition 22 00:01:16,214 --> 00:01:19,454 Speaker 2: now holds no seats across Metro Adelaide or Perth, and 23 00:01:19,534 --> 00:01:22,214 Speaker 2: only a few in Sydney and Melbourne, with now former 24 00:01:22,254 --> 00:01:25,494 Speaker 2: Opposition leader Peter Dutton losing his Queensland seat of Dixon 25 00:01:25,534 --> 00:01:28,734 Speaker 2: to Ali France. Deputy Leader Susan Lee says it may 26 00:01:28,734 --> 00:01:31,294 Speaker 2: be some time before the party room meets to elect 27 00:01:31,294 --> 00:01:33,534 Speaker 2: a new leader as they continue to wait for the 28 00:01:33,574 --> 00:01:36,494 Speaker 2: outcome of the several seats where proferential counting was still 29 00:01:36,534 --> 00:01:40,054 Speaker 2: taking place. Front runners for the position include Deputy Leader 30 00:01:40,094 --> 00:01:43,534 Speaker 2: Susan Lee and Opposition front benchers Dan Teene and Andrew Hasty. 31 00:01:43,974 --> 00:01:47,494 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Alberonizi thanks supporters in his inner Western 32 00:01:47,494 --> 00:01:50,414 Speaker 2: Sydney electorate before pledging to get back to the job 33 00:01:50,454 --> 00:01:53,494 Speaker 2: at hand, saying there'll be a disciplined and orderly government 34 00:01:53,534 --> 00:01:55,694 Speaker 2: in their second term, the same as they were in 35 00:01:55,734 --> 00:01:58,254 Speaker 2: their first, but that they don't take serving the Australian 36 00:01:58,294 --> 00:02:01,534 Speaker 2: people for grunted. Meanwhile, just a day after again winning 37 00:02:01,574 --> 00:02:04,174 Speaker 2: his seat of New England in New South Wales, national 38 00:02:04,334 --> 00:02:06,814 Speaker 2: MP Barnaby Joyce has revealed he has been diagnosed with 39 00:02:06,854 --> 00:02:10,294 Speaker 2: prostate cancer. The fifty eight year old report received the 40 00:02:10,334 --> 00:02:13,654 Speaker 2: news after a prostate specific antigen blood test came back 41 00:02:13,694 --> 00:02:17,774 Speaker 2: with an elevated result. As subsequent MRI and biopsy confirmed 42 00:02:17,774 --> 00:02:21,294 Speaker 2: the diagnosis. He'll undergo surgery today, followed by a short 43 00:02:21,294 --> 00:02:24,774 Speaker 2: stay in hospital. Joyce saying prostate cancer court early is 44 00:02:24,934 --> 00:02:27,734 Speaker 2: very treatable, saying if he thought it was very serious, 45 00:02:27,774 --> 00:02:30,294 Speaker 2: he of course would resign, but his doctors say they've 46 00:02:30,294 --> 00:02:33,134 Speaker 2: caught it in the early stages and keeping the diagnosis 47 00:02:33,214 --> 00:02:36,214 Speaker 2: quiet until after the election was to avoid it distracting 48 00:02:36,254 --> 00:02:39,614 Speaker 2: from the campaign. Brazilian police say they've stopped a bomb 49 00:02:39,614 --> 00:02:43,054 Speaker 2: plot targeting a Lady Gaga concert. The police in Rio 50 00:02:43,094 --> 00:02:46,694 Speaker 2: di Janeiro, working in coordination with the Justice Ministry, say 51 00:02:46,694 --> 00:02:49,854 Speaker 2: that the plot, orchestrated by a group promoting hate speech 52 00:02:49,854 --> 00:02:52,894 Speaker 2: and the radicalization of teenagers, planned to set off a 53 00:02:52,934 --> 00:02:55,334 Speaker 2: bomb at the Gaga concert at the Rio City Hall 54 00:02:55,374 --> 00:02:58,974 Speaker 2: on Saturday, which was attended by two point one million fans. 55 00:02:59,334 --> 00:03:02,014 Speaker 2: They revealed that the group, posing as members of Gaga's 56 00:03:02,014 --> 00:03:04,814 Speaker 2: global fan base known as the Little Monsters, had been 57 00:03:04,894 --> 00:03:08,774 Speaker 2: recruiting participants, including miners, to carry out the attack using 58 00:03:08,814 --> 00:03:13,374 Speaker 2: improvised explosives and molotov cocktails. After a tip off, authorities 59 00:03:13,374 --> 00:03:16,414 Speaker 2: carried out over a dozen search and seizure warrants, police 60 00:03:16,494 --> 00:03:19,614 Speaker 2: arresting the group's leader for a legal possession of a firearm. 61 00:03:19,934 --> 00:03:23,774 Speaker 2: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski says a ceasefire with Russia could 62 00:03:23,774 --> 00:03:27,414 Speaker 2: be possible at any moment. Zelenski called on Kiev's allies 63 00:03:27,454 --> 00:03:30,094 Speaker 2: to apply greater pressure on Moscow to make it happen. 64 00:03:30,454 --> 00:03:33,014 Speaker 2: Speaking at a joint news conference in Prague, he said 65 00:03:33,054 --> 00:03:36,574 Speaker 2: that unless pressure was applied, Russian leader Vladimir Putin would 66 00:03:36,574 --> 00:03:38,654 Speaker 2: take no real steps to end the now three year 67 00:03:38,694 --> 00:03:41,734 Speaker 2: old conflict. Putin called for a three day ceasefire to 68 00:03:41,774 --> 00:03:44,174 Speaker 2: mark the eightieth anniversary of the victory of the Soviet 69 00:03:44,254 --> 00:03:46,694 Speaker 2: Union and its allies in the Second World War, but 70 00:03:46,774 --> 00:03:50,294 Speaker 2: Zelenski says such a measure is pointless and has instead 71 00:03:50,334 --> 00:03:53,214 Speaker 2: called for a ceasefire lasting at least thirty days, in 72 00:03:53,254 --> 00:03:56,294 Speaker 2: line with the US proposal, saying that rather than putting 73 00:03:56,334 --> 00:03:59,374 Speaker 2: tanks on display at a May nine victory parade, Putin 74 00:03:59,414 --> 00:04:01,894 Speaker 2: should be thinking about how to actually end this war. 75 00:04:02,654 --> 00:04:06,334 Speaker 2: Ozzy cosplay champion Claire Beaton has taken out the global 76 00:04:06,374 --> 00:04:09,054 Speaker 2: title at one of the biggest pop culture conventions in 77 00:04:09,054 --> 00:04:11,494 Speaker 2: the U s Betan, who used to work with her 78 00:04:11,614 --> 00:04:14,374 Speaker 2: dad in the Weta FX studio working on movies like 79 00:04:14,414 --> 00:04:17,494 Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings, entered the event dressed as Hulsen, 80 00:04:17,614 --> 00:04:19,694 Speaker 2: the three hundred year old elf from the video game 81 00:04:19,734 --> 00:04:23,894 Speaker 2: boulders Gate, her costume consisting of prosthetic elfeers and scars, 82 00:04:24,214 --> 00:04:27,734 Speaker 2: hundreds of embossed leather leaves, and a glowing lantern. Betan, 83 00:04:27,774 --> 00:04:30,694 Speaker 2: who now runs her own studio alongside her partner in Adelaide, 84 00:04:30,694 --> 00:04:33,414 Speaker 2: will now join the costplayed judging panel at the upcoming 85 00:04:33,494 --> 00:04:35,854 Speaker 2: pax OZ convention in Melbourne in October. 86 00:04:36,414 --> 00:04:37,414 Speaker 4: Thanks Claire Next. 87 00:04:37,694 --> 00:04:47,294 Speaker 3: Making Sense of Election twenty twenty five, on Saturday Night, 88 00:04:47,414 --> 00:04:51,774 Speaker 3: Ozzie's delivered a decisive verdict, giving Anthony Albertines's Labor government 89 00:04:51,814 --> 00:04:55,454 Speaker 3: an increased majority and dealing the coalition its worst defeat 90 00:04:55,494 --> 00:04:58,574 Speaker 3: in recent history. While the count is still happening, the 91 00:04:58,614 --> 00:05:01,894 Speaker 3: results for Label wasn't just a win, it was a landslide. 92 00:05:02,294 --> 00:05:05,334 Speaker 3: Labor is projected to win at least eighty six seats, 93 00:05:05,374 --> 00:05:08,374 Speaker 3: surpassing the seventy six needed for a majority in the 94 00:05:08,374 --> 00:05:11,894 Speaker 3: House of Representatives. It makes Alban EASi the first Prime 95 00:05:11,894 --> 00:05:15,174 Speaker 3: minister to be elected twice since John Howard in two 96 00:05:15,254 --> 00:05:18,654 Speaker 3: thousand and four, with Labour not just holding but gaining 97 00:05:18,694 --> 00:05:21,934 Speaker 3: seats across the country. But the biggest story of the 98 00:05:22,014 --> 00:05:24,854 Speaker 3: night was the loss of Opposition leader Peter Dutton, who 99 00:05:24,894 --> 00:05:27,614 Speaker 3: not only failed to win government but lost his own 100 00:05:27,654 --> 00:05:30,854 Speaker 3: seat of Dixon to Labour's Ali France, a seat he's 101 00:05:30,894 --> 00:05:35,734 Speaker 3: held since two thousand and one. A quick note on 102 00:05:35,814 --> 00:05:39,134 Speaker 3: the Labour candidate who unseated the opposition leader. Ali France 103 00:05:39,334 --> 00:05:42,854 Speaker 3: is a single mum and disability advocate whose life changed 104 00:05:42,894 --> 00:05:45,494 Speaker 3: after she lost her leg saving her young son in 105 00:05:45,534 --> 00:05:49,414 Speaker 3: a car accident. She's faced huge personal losses, including the 106 00:05:49,454 --> 00:05:52,614 Speaker 3: death of her children's father and her eldest son, but 107 00:05:52,734 --> 00:05:55,854 Speaker 3: says that their courage inspired her to keep going. She's 108 00:05:55,894 --> 00:05:59,254 Speaker 3: been open about juggling disability, grief and the cost of living, 109 00:05:59,494 --> 00:06:02,414 Speaker 3: bringing her lived experience to this new role in parliament. 110 00:06:03,254 --> 00:06:05,694 Speaker 3: To read more about Ali France, I've ling Chelsea Hoy's 111 00:06:05,774 --> 00:06:09,334 Speaker 3: article on her in Our Show notes. So Our Franz 112 00:06:09,334 --> 00:06:13,134 Speaker 3: had successfully unseated Dutton, leaving the Liberal Party without a leader. 113 00:06:13,214 --> 00:06:15,574 Speaker 3: They'll now scramble in the coming days and weeks to 114 00:06:15,614 --> 00:06:18,894 Speaker 3: host a ballot for the party leadership. So far, it's 115 00:06:18,934 --> 00:06:21,094 Speaker 3: been quiet on who could take the top job, but 116 00:06:21,254 --> 00:06:23,974 Speaker 3: a few names have been thrown around, including the Shadow 117 00:06:23,974 --> 00:06:28,054 Speaker 3: Immigration and Citizenship Minister Dan Tian and Deputy Liberal Leader 118 00:06:28,094 --> 00:06:31,374 Speaker 3: Susan Lee. It was an election dominated by cost of 119 00:06:31,454 --> 00:06:34,814 Speaker 3: living concerns, with voters sending a clear message about their 120 00:06:34,854 --> 00:06:38,254 Speaker 3: economic priorities, but it wasn't just about the hip pocket. 121 00:06:38,414 --> 00:06:42,614 Speaker 3: Healthcare funding, climate action and housing affordability all played crucial 122 00:06:42,694 --> 00:06:46,014 Speaker 3: roles in shaping the outcome. For the first time ever, 123 00:06:46,134 --> 00:06:49,654 Speaker 3: Gen Z and Millennials outnumbered baby boomers at the ballot box, 124 00:06:50,014 --> 00:06:54,774 Speaker 3: potentially reshaping Australian politics for years to come and very quickly. 125 00:06:54,774 --> 00:06:57,054 Speaker 3: Were you one of the chosen ones to receive countless 126 00:06:57,054 --> 00:07:00,494 Speaker 3: trumpet of patriot techts this campaign, Well, they mustn't have 127 00:07:00,534 --> 00:07:03,094 Speaker 3: gone very far in your book, or anyone else's for 128 00:07:03,134 --> 00:07:03,614 Speaker 3: that matter. 129 00:07:03,974 --> 00:07:05,014 Speaker 4: Clive Palmer's right. 130 00:07:04,934 --> 00:07:07,454 Speaker 3: Wing party didn't manage to win any seats in the 131 00:07:07,494 --> 00:07:09,094 Speaker 3: House of Reps or the Senate. 132 00:07:10,014 --> 00:07:11,974 Speaker 4: Back to Saturday Night fighting back to is. 133 00:07:11,974 --> 00:07:15,614 Speaker 3: In his victory speech, Anthony Albanezi flashed his Medicare card 134 00:07:15,654 --> 00:07:17,614 Speaker 3: and promised to repay voters trust. 135 00:07:18,014 --> 00:07:19,534 Speaker 4: We take up this task. 136 00:07:20,214 --> 00:07:24,094 Speaker 5: We're new hope, new confidence, a new determination. 137 00:07:24,854 --> 00:07:27,734 Speaker 3: Meantime, Peter Dutton, joined by his family on stage at 138 00:07:27,734 --> 00:07:30,334 Speaker 3: Liberal HQ, graciously accepted defeat. 139 00:07:30,854 --> 00:07:33,334 Speaker 6: I also want to say a very very big thank 140 00:07:33,374 --> 00:07:36,734 Speaker 6: you tonight, most importantly to the millions of Australia who 141 00:07:36,854 --> 00:07:40,574 Speaker 6: supported the Liberal Party the coalition. It's not our night, 142 00:07:40,614 --> 00:07:43,094 Speaker 6: as I point out, and there are good members, were 143 00:07:43,214 --> 00:07:47,014 Speaker 6: candidates who have lost their seats or their ambition, and 144 00:07:47,134 --> 00:07:50,694 Speaker 6: I'm sorry for that. We have an amazing party. 145 00:07:50,494 --> 00:07:52,574 Speaker 4: And we'll rebuild to dive even further. 146 00:07:52,614 --> 00:07:55,734 Speaker 3: We're joined by Newswey Federal Politics, reported Jess Wang, and 147 00:07:55,894 --> 00:07:59,574 Speaker 3: associate editor at The Australian Jenna Clark. Jenna, let's start 148 00:07:59,614 --> 00:08:03,174 Speaker 3: with you. Where do the Liberals fall down this campaign? 149 00:08:04,694 --> 00:08:07,854 Speaker 1: I don't know how long we've got. The runway to 150 00:08:07,934 --> 00:08:11,894 Speaker 1: this election has been quite long considering what they needed 151 00:08:11,894 --> 00:08:14,454 Speaker 1: to learn. The lessons from twenty twenty two clearly have 152 00:08:14,574 --> 00:08:17,414 Speaker 1: not been learned, and then it really played out in 153 00:08:17,454 --> 00:08:20,974 Speaker 1: a really disastrous campaign for the Conservative Party. I think 154 00:08:21,214 --> 00:08:24,174 Speaker 1: it was confused. It felt like Peter Dutton was out 155 00:08:24,214 --> 00:08:26,294 Speaker 1: there on his own. He was surrounded by no one 156 00:08:26,294 --> 00:08:28,534 Speaker 1: in his front bench other than Angus Taylor sort of 157 00:08:28,614 --> 00:08:32,414 Speaker 1: chiming in with some really konfuddled economic messaging. I think 158 00:08:32,454 --> 00:08:35,454 Speaker 1: they really misread the electorate when it comes to things 159 00:08:35,574 --> 00:08:40,454 Speaker 1: like working from home, women, modern families, hell, even energy policy. 160 00:08:40,574 --> 00:08:42,134 Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be really interesting to 161 00:08:42,134 --> 00:08:44,974 Speaker 1: see if things like nuclear power remain on the menu 162 00:08:45,094 --> 00:08:47,854 Speaker 1: for the Liberal Party moving forward. So I think that 163 00:08:47,974 --> 00:08:51,054 Speaker 1: there are a lot of lessons to be learned in 164 00:08:51,174 --> 00:08:54,414 Speaker 1: this election. Sources say that they need to look back now, 165 00:08:54,494 --> 00:08:58,374 Speaker 1: even beyond twenty twenty two and even further to find 166 00:08:58,374 --> 00:09:00,414 Speaker 1: out where they're going wrong and where they continue to 167 00:09:00,454 --> 00:09:00,814 Speaker 1: go wrong. 168 00:09:01,214 --> 00:09:04,454 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you brought up Angus Taylor, Jenna, because Jess, 169 00:09:04,494 --> 00:09:07,374 Speaker 3: I want to ask you. Obviously, the big gap that 170 00:09:07,454 --> 00:09:09,814 Speaker 3: is now left in the Liberal Party besides people who've 171 00:09:09,814 --> 00:09:12,414 Speaker 3: lost their seats, is Peter Dunton is the leadership. 172 00:09:12,974 --> 00:09:14,134 Speaker 4: Who's going to lead the Libs. 173 00:09:14,814 --> 00:09:17,614 Speaker 5: We've got four names at the moment, so that includes 174 00:09:17,694 --> 00:09:21,654 Speaker 5: Dan Tayann Angus Taylor, Susan Lay and Andrew Hasty. 175 00:09:22,094 --> 00:09:24,774 Speaker 7: A couple of interesting points on that. I feel like 176 00:09:24,774 --> 00:09:27,614 Speaker 7: with Angus Taylor, it's difficult. One of the main criticisms 177 00:09:27,614 --> 00:09:29,294 Speaker 7: of the coalition was that they didn't have a proper 178 00:09:29,334 --> 00:09:32,654 Speaker 7: economic policy. He's obviously the shadow Treasurer. I had one 179 00:09:32,694 --> 00:09:35,134 Speaker 7: source sort of explained to me like, why would you 180 00:09:35,174 --> 00:09:36,974 Speaker 7: want to replay that film? And I think that's a 181 00:09:37,174 --> 00:09:41,134 Speaker 7: very good point. Dan Tayanne, he's interesting. He nearly lost 182 00:09:41,134 --> 00:09:43,254 Speaker 7: his seat of Wannen to Alex Dyson. 183 00:09:43,654 --> 00:09:46,494 Speaker 5: The idea that maybe you wouldn't want to put in 184 00:09:46,534 --> 00:09:49,494 Speaker 5: another MP with a marginal seat and have another thing 185 00:09:49,534 --> 00:09:52,294 Speaker 5: happened like with what we saw with Peter Dutton in Dixon. 186 00:09:52,494 --> 00:09:54,534 Speaker 5: I think that's a fair assessment of things. I think 187 00:09:54,574 --> 00:09:56,334 Speaker 5: at the moment sort of Angus Taylor is sort of 188 00:09:56,374 --> 00:09:58,974 Speaker 5: looking like the front runner, but I think it's still 189 00:09:58,974 --> 00:10:00,614 Speaker 5: probably too early to tell. 190 00:10:00,814 --> 00:10:03,974 Speaker 3: On the marginal seats. I mean Andrew Hasty as well, Jenna. 191 00:10:04,174 --> 00:10:06,614 Speaker 3: You and I've both worked in West Australia in the 192 00:10:06,654 --> 00:10:09,974 Speaker 3: news and WA. His seat was quite marginal, one point 193 00:10:10,054 --> 00:10:13,414 Speaker 3: two percent margin of the seat of Canning. Until this election. 194 00:10:13,534 --> 00:10:15,494 Speaker 3: He has retained his seat. There's been a bit more 195 00:10:15,534 --> 00:10:17,214 Speaker 3: of a swing towards the Liberal Party. 196 00:10:17,614 --> 00:10:18,574 Speaker 4: That's a name that might. 197 00:10:18,454 --> 00:10:20,814 Speaker 3: Be quite unfamiliar to a lot of people, though he's 198 00:10:20,814 --> 00:10:22,694 Speaker 3: not necessarily been on the front bench or out on 199 00:10:22,694 --> 00:10:24,374 Speaker 3: the front foot with the Liberal Party. 200 00:10:24,534 --> 00:10:25,934 Speaker 4: Would he make a good Liberal leader. 201 00:10:26,254 --> 00:10:29,734 Speaker 1: It's interesting because Andrew Hasty is such a discipline sort 202 00:10:29,734 --> 00:10:32,094 Speaker 1: of politician, which is quite rare that you see that 203 00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:35,014 Speaker 1: these days. He only does media when it's really required 204 00:10:35,054 --> 00:10:36,814 Speaker 1: of him. I think a lot of the criticism on 205 00:10:36,854 --> 00:10:38,854 Speaker 1: the campaign especially was the fact that this was an 206 00:10:38,894 --> 00:10:41,654 Speaker 1: election that was focusing so much on defense. But I 207 00:10:41,654 --> 00:10:43,254 Speaker 1: think the proof is sort of in the pudding because 208 00:10:43,254 --> 00:10:46,254 Speaker 1: he's really romped home with a swing towards him, which 209 00:10:46,334 --> 00:10:48,894 Speaker 1: is really buck the trend when it comes to conservative politics. 210 00:10:48,974 --> 00:10:51,774 Speaker 1: When it comes to conservatives, that's probably what you'd expect 211 00:10:51,814 --> 00:10:56,174 Speaker 1: from a conservative MP. He's very forthright in his convictions, 212 00:10:56,214 --> 00:10:57,854 Speaker 1: and I think that's the interesting part and the great 213 00:10:57,854 --> 00:11:01,054 Speaker 1: part about someone like Andrew Hasty. He's actually a politician, 214 00:11:01,254 --> 00:11:04,494 Speaker 1: especially on the right side, that has conviction, so you 215 00:11:04,574 --> 00:11:06,774 Speaker 1: always sort of know where he's going to fall on 216 00:11:06,814 --> 00:11:09,014 Speaker 1: a topic, which I don't think we've seen from the 217 00:11:09,094 --> 00:11:10,614 Speaker 1: Libs in quite some time. 218 00:11:10,974 --> 00:11:13,974 Speaker 3: Jess, We've talked a little bit about where the Liberals 219 00:11:13,974 --> 00:11:16,254 Speaker 3: fell down, but where did Labor saw this election? 220 00:11:16,334 --> 00:11:18,094 Speaker 4: What is it that really clenched them the victory. 221 00:11:18,814 --> 00:11:20,294 Speaker 5: I think it was the fact that they just had 222 00:11:20,334 --> 00:11:23,334 Speaker 5: a really well thought out policy agenda and That really 223 00:11:23,454 --> 00:11:25,374 Speaker 5: showed given the fact that by the last week we 224 00:11:25,414 --> 00:11:27,934 Speaker 5: still didn't know where the coalition were going to cut 225 00:11:27,974 --> 00:11:31,694 Speaker 5: the forty one thousand public sector employees. Anytime they announced 226 00:11:31,694 --> 00:11:34,174 Speaker 5: a policy, they had costings, they had the benefit. We 227 00:11:34,254 --> 00:11:37,054 Speaker 5: knew what was going on, and it was quite easy 228 00:11:37,094 --> 00:11:40,614 Speaker 5: to interpret just from the layperson. You'd know that the 229 00:11:40,974 --> 00:11:43,654 Speaker 5: eight point five billion dollars into bulk billing would bring 230 00:11:43,694 --> 00:11:46,534 Speaker 5: up bulk billing rates for free GP sessions. You had 231 00:11:46,574 --> 00:11:48,854 Speaker 5: the slashing the hex step by twenty percent. They were 232 00:11:48,894 --> 00:11:52,214 Speaker 5: just easy to digest policies. They were able to poke 233 00:11:52,294 --> 00:11:55,174 Speaker 5: holes in the coalition's agenda. So with nuclear like one 234 00:11:55,174 --> 00:11:57,014 Speaker 5: of their main things that they put forward was that 235 00:11:57,054 --> 00:12:00,214 Speaker 5: they cut you pay tagline that sort of ran everywhere. 236 00:12:00,294 --> 00:12:02,414 Speaker 5: And then also, I guess it's the benefit of being 237 00:12:02,814 --> 00:12:04,974 Speaker 5: the sitting government like you do control the books, you 238 00:12:05,014 --> 00:12:07,414 Speaker 5: control the bank account, and you've had the three years 239 00:12:07,414 --> 00:12:09,214 Speaker 5: to sort of build up your platform. 240 00:12:09,614 --> 00:12:12,454 Speaker 3: Jener. It was quite powerful seeing Albow on election night 241 00:12:12,534 --> 00:12:17,054 Speaker 3: holding that Medicare card during his acceptance victory speech. That 242 00:12:17,214 --> 00:12:21,454 Speaker 3: was such a cornerstone policy for labor, the focus on healthcare, 243 00:12:21,494 --> 00:12:24,294 Speaker 3: and obviously here at Mammamea we look specifically at the 244 00:12:24,494 --> 00:12:26,654 Speaker 3: issues that women were concerned with. They told us that 245 00:12:27,094 --> 00:12:29,814 Speaker 3: women's health specifically was a big concern. So it feels 246 00:12:29,894 --> 00:12:32,494 Speaker 3: like that has come full circling really paid off for 247 00:12:32,694 --> 00:12:33,534 Speaker 3: the Labor Government. 248 00:12:33,734 --> 00:12:36,294 Speaker 1: Albo is basically now in the realm of Bob Hawk, 249 00:12:36,454 --> 00:12:39,654 Speaker 1: like this is an astounding victory and the fact that 250 00:12:39,694 --> 00:12:42,534 Speaker 1: he's won more seats than Kevin Rudd did in seven 251 00:12:42,774 --> 00:12:45,614 Speaker 1: is incredible and it just goes to show further suggests 252 00:12:45,814 --> 00:12:49,574 Speaker 1: point it is such a disciplined machine. We say we 253 00:12:49,614 --> 00:12:50,974 Speaker 1: want to be able to fly on the wall into 254 00:12:51,014 --> 00:12:52,614 Speaker 1: the Liberal review. I'd love to be a fly on 255 00:12:52,654 --> 00:12:54,654 Speaker 1: the wall just to see how Paul Erickson, who is 256 00:12:54,734 --> 00:12:59,294 Speaker 1: the National AOP National secretary, he ran the best campaign 257 00:12:59,294 --> 00:13:01,934 Speaker 1: that we've seen because it was just on point Albou 258 00:13:02,054 --> 00:13:04,934 Speaker 1: was up and about their strong points are health and 259 00:13:04,974 --> 00:13:07,934 Speaker 1: social issues and they articulated them and they executed them 260 00:13:07,974 --> 00:13:10,374 Speaker 1: with precision. So props to Labour Party for that. 261 00:13:10,774 --> 00:13:11,654 Speaker 4: That's some big words. 262 00:13:11,694 --> 00:13:15,934 Speaker 3: Comparing Elbow to someone like Hawk. It could chape up 263 00:13:15,974 --> 00:13:18,294 Speaker 3: to be part of his legacy when he eventually does 264 00:13:18,374 --> 00:13:21,254 Speaker 3: leave parliament. What about Dunton's legacy. What do we think 265 00:13:21,294 --> 00:13:23,774 Speaker 3: that he will leave Parliament leave his seat of Dixon 266 00:13:23,814 --> 00:13:25,254 Speaker 3: with as the lasting impression. 267 00:13:25,934 --> 00:13:29,294 Speaker 5: I think he can be credited for uniting the Coalition 268 00:13:29,614 --> 00:13:31,734 Speaker 5: at a time like he came in after Scott Morrison, 269 00:13:31,814 --> 00:13:35,014 Speaker 5: that was a really fractured coalition. The coalition MP's do 270 00:13:35,214 --> 00:13:37,654 Speaker 5: say that like he united the party room, he got 271 00:13:37,694 --> 00:13:39,694 Speaker 5: people thinking of the same platform. You know, he did 272 00:13:39,734 --> 00:13:41,654 Speaker 5: come up with some good policy points. The twenty five 273 00:13:41,734 --> 00:13:44,214 Speaker 5: cent cut to the fuel like sise, was really popular, 274 00:13:44,294 --> 00:13:46,854 Speaker 5: as evidenced by the many fuel stops that we saw 275 00:13:46,894 --> 00:13:48,854 Speaker 5: him visit. I think the final cut was fifteen but 276 00:13:49,174 --> 00:13:51,454 Speaker 5: the idea of nuclear, which I think at the Coalition 277 00:13:51,654 --> 00:13:54,854 Speaker 5: will still keep pushing forward. His legacy will probably be 278 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:57,454 Speaker 5: defined by the results we saw on Saturday night. I 279 00:13:57,454 --> 00:13:59,534 Speaker 5: guess how could they not. It's the worst performance of 280 00:13:59,574 --> 00:14:02,614 Speaker 5: the Coalition government in eighty years or so. The fact 281 00:14:02,654 --> 00:14:05,214 Speaker 5: that he lost his seat is the huge mark against him. 282 00:14:05,414 --> 00:14:07,374 Speaker 1: Yeah, just to add to that, Jess, I think you're 283 00:14:07,414 --> 00:14:09,814 Speaker 1: so right because their primary votes barely on life Supporter 284 00:14:09,854 --> 00:14:11,374 Speaker 1: has barely got a polls at this point in time. 285 00:14:11,534 --> 00:14:14,454 Speaker 1: Peter Dutton, I think he's been painted in a negative 286 00:14:14,494 --> 00:14:16,654 Speaker 1: light pretty much the entirety of his career because he's 287 00:14:16,654 --> 00:14:19,414 Speaker 1: been in those strong Man hard Man portfolios, you know, 288 00:14:19,494 --> 00:14:22,094 Speaker 1: Home Affairs, Defense, which roles that he relished in. So 289 00:14:22,134 --> 00:14:24,374 Speaker 1: it was really hard to unscramble that egg when it 290 00:14:24,374 --> 00:14:26,174 Speaker 1: came to all of the horrible nicknames that he was 291 00:14:26,214 --> 00:14:29,054 Speaker 1: given by the Internet, which were then amplified by the government. 292 00:14:29,454 --> 00:14:31,534 Speaker 1: But I think one thing that we should always remember, 293 00:14:31,574 --> 00:14:33,774 Speaker 1: and if you watch him in question Time or within 294 00:14:33,814 --> 00:14:37,974 Speaker 1: the Chamber really closely, he was always so forthright in 295 00:14:38,014 --> 00:14:41,334 Speaker 1: his support for Indigenous Australians. He was always calling for 296 00:14:41,374 --> 00:14:46,014 Speaker 1: a Royal commission into child abuse in Indigenous communities, and 297 00:14:46,094 --> 00:14:47,814 Speaker 1: I think that that's one thing that he should definitely 298 00:14:47,854 --> 00:14:50,774 Speaker 1: be remembered for. And it definitely had to bipartisan support 299 00:14:50,814 --> 00:14:52,614 Speaker 1: when he would speak on that in the Chamber, and 300 00:14:52,654 --> 00:14:54,334 Speaker 1: that was really from the heart. So that's one thing 301 00:14:54,334 --> 00:14:56,694 Speaker 1: that I hope that he is remembered for when history 302 00:14:57,054 --> 00:14:58,334 Speaker 1: is written, probably tomorrow. 303 00:14:58,694 --> 00:15:01,414 Speaker 3: I want to talk just very quickly about the independence, 304 00:15:01,494 --> 00:15:04,294 Speaker 3: the tills, the independent community members, whatever we want to 305 00:15:04,334 --> 00:15:07,374 Speaker 3: call them. At this stage, all the current sitting Independence 306 00:15:07,494 --> 00:15:10,454 Speaker 3: like Jizzali Steggels like you're a legor respenders, They've all 307 00:15:10,494 --> 00:15:11,694 Speaker 3: retained their seats. 308 00:15:11,974 --> 00:15:14,654 Speaker 4: They've also picked up one in the Act. 309 00:15:15,174 --> 00:15:18,094 Speaker 3: So the seat of Bean, which is pretty wild considering 310 00:15:18,294 --> 00:15:22,494 Speaker 3: Canberra has historically been a labor stronghold. How has Australia 311 00:15:22,614 --> 00:15:26,814 Speaker 3: changed their views on independence this election general? Last election cycle, 312 00:15:26,894 --> 00:15:29,414 Speaker 3: we saw the Teal wave come and sweep the nation. 313 00:15:29,614 --> 00:15:30,894 Speaker 3: What about in twenty twenty five. 314 00:15:31,614 --> 00:15:34,974 Speaker 1: From a female perspective that's probably from like the center's 315 00:15:35,014 --> 00:15:37,654 Speaker 1: point of view, I think that there would be a 316 00:15:37,654 --> 00:15:40,134 Speaker 1: call now because that's cross bench. It will be inflated 317 00:15:40,134 --> 00:15:43,054 Speaker 1: by either an extra one or two tials create a 318 00:15:43,054 --> 00:15:45,414 Speaker 1: party already, because if they created a party, I'm pretty 319 00:15:45,414 --> 00:15:47,534 Speaker 1: sure they would wipe out the Liberal Party at this 320 00:15:47,614 --> 00:15:50,254 Speaker 1: point in time because you look at the caliber of 321 00:15:50,614 --> 00:15:53,254 Speaker 1: candidates that they had, and also MPs at are coming 322 00:15:53,294 --> 00:15:55,734 Speaker 1: back in like in any type of reality, someone like 323 00:15:55,734 --> 00:15:59,294 Speaker 1: a leg Respender would have been the Shadow Treasury spokesperson. 324 00:15:59,534 --> 00:16:02,334 Speaker 1: She's talking about great things like tax reform, while the 325 00:16:02,374 --> 00:16:04,534 Speaker 1: Lids are sort of kind of even get their messaging straight. 326 00:16:04,654 --> 00:16:07,374 Speaker 1: So the positioning on Teals is definitely going to change 327 00:16:07,374 --> 00:16:10,054 Speaker 1: because I think the Lids are probably rethinking, hey, they 328 00:16:10,094 --> 00:16:12,454 Speaker 1: were once upon a time probably would have been liberal women, 329 00:16:12,854 --> 00:16:16,574 Speaker 1: and they need to rewrite this narrative that they did 330 00:16:16,614 --> 00:16:20,014 Speaker 1: not leave these women. The Liberal Party left these women, Jess. 331 00:16:20,054 --> 00:16:21,854 Speaker 4: I want to end with you. 332 00:16:22,134 --> 00:16:24,214 Speaker 3: There are a lot of promises from Labor in the 333 00:16:24,214 --> 00:16:27,814 Speaker 3: federal budget, in their election campaign, even in Albo's speech 334 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:31,094 Speaker 3: on election night. What should we now keep an eye 335 00:16:31,134 --> 00:16:33,134 Speaker 3: out for. They've got three more years to do a 336 00:16:33,174 --> 00:16:36,534 Speaker 3: whole lot of stuff. What's sort of the big ticket 337 00:16:36,574 --> 00:16:38,054 Speaker 3: items that we should be keeping an eye on. 338 00:16:38,934 --> 00:16:41,574 Speaker 5: The first policy we're going to see pass through Parliament 339 00:16:41,694 --> 00:16:43,854 Speaker 5: is going to be the twenty cent cut to HEC stats. 340 00:16:44,214 --> 00:16:46,214 Speaker 5: That'll be the first thing that we see. It's a 341 00:16:46,254 --> 00:16:48,614 Speaker 5: tangible benefit and I think it will sort of ingratiate 342 00:16:48,694 --> 00:16:52,334 Speaker 5: voters to their policy platform. Definitely, what they're doing with medicare, 343 00:16:52,654 --> 00:16:55,014 Speaker 5: they're going to be held to a pretty high standard. 344 00:16:55,174 --> 00:16:57,214 Speaker 5: People are going to be watching really closely to see 345 00:16:57,214 --> 00:17:00,534 Speaker 5: if bolk bieling rates actually tick up. I think they've 346 00:17:00,534 --> 00:17:02,614 Speaker 5: given themselves till the end of twenty thirty to reach 347 00:17:02,654 --> 00:17:06,534 Speaker 5: that eighty percent target. Some other great policies promised and 348 00:17:06,574 --> 00:17:10,294 Speaker 5: pushed is the five percent the home guarantees. So it 349 00:17:10,334 --> 00:17:12,174 Speaker 5: means that first home buy is no matter how much 350 00:17:12,214 --> 00:17:13,974 Speaker 5: they are, and they can get on the property market 351 00:17:14,014 --> 00:17:16,694 Speaker 5: by their first home with just a five percent deposit 352 00:17:16,774 --> 00:17:19,574 Speaker 5: and the government guarantees additional fifteen percent, and that means 353 00:17:19,614 --> 00:17:21,654 Speaker 5: they don't have to pay lender's mortgage insurance. 354 00:17:23,814 --> 00:17:25,654 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking the time to feed your mind with 355 00:17:25,734 --> 00:17:28,534 Speaker 3: us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano 356 00:17:28,614 --> 00:17:34,174 Speaker 3: and Clare Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.