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Speaker 1: So much, you're listening to a Mama Mia podcast. Mamma

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Speaker 2: From Mom and Maya. Welcome to the Spill your daily

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Speaker 2: pop culture fix. I'm Em Burnham.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit sweaty today because I was running across

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Speaker 2: Sydney City.

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Speaker 1: When you said you were rushing to get your passport,

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe, like when I lost my passport just

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Speaker 1: for days. But that wasn't the situation for you.

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Speaker 2: No, my situation was purely me being complacent. So I

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Speaker 2: had to get a new passport because I'm going overseas

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Speaker 2: end of year, and I ordered it to pick up

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Speaker 2: But they sent me a notice saying, hey, we only

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Speaker 2: hold these passports for a month, so you need to

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Speaker 2: pick it up because it's nearly a month.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, you may look sweaty and fostered, but

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Speaker 1: you still look great.

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Speaker 2: And I've got a great password photo. I spend money

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the real takeaway from this whole situation.

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Speaker 2: I'll wait to show everyone. On the show today, we

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Speaker 2: are talking about Jennifer Lopez and everything that's unfolded after

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Speaker 2: of her and Matt Damon.

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Speaker 1: But first, but first, so the Emmy Awards, like the

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Speaker 1: excited for that. But this week, as they always do,

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Speaker 1: the Creative Arts Emmys were held first. That's for more

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Speaker 2: Which as the award show doesn't go on for five days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So it is a bit of a shame

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Speaker 1: Well, otherwise they just I guess wouldn't get their moment.

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Speaker 1: But you know, they still get to go and get

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Speaker 1: was one show that pretty much swept all the awards

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Speaker 1: No, probably don't. We had talked about the show before.

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Speaker 1: It's the show that's on Disney Plus ah show. It

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Speaker 2: It is amazing. I actually have started watching it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was on my homework list. Yes, it is so brilliant.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. It's quite hard to follow in the beginning.

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Speaker 2: to every single episode. But it's so worth it.

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Speaker 1: That's good. We need shows like that, shows that make

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Speaker 1: from the Creative Arts Emmys is that an Australian production company,

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Speaker 1: So it's been a bit of a tumultuous time for

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Speaker 1: one Jennifer Lynn Lopez formerly Jennifer Athleic. She's dropping that

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, after many months of speculation,

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Speaker 1: And this was coming off the back of a wild

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Speaker 1: She had dragged poor helpless Ben Affleck into this marriage

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Speaker 2: But since the divorce, I'm like, this is what divorce

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Speaker 1: Exactly before the divorce came out. We saw her kind

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Speaker 1: So we started seeing all these photos of her out

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Speaker 1: He was getting different haircuts, yes, And so a turning

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it feels like, weirdly, this tiny little Instagram

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Speaker 2: One crazy that we look the same age, you and

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Low Yes, you really do insane.

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Speaker 2: But that's the effect of the Instagram carousel, right, yea,

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Speaker 1: Also, she's slipped a quote in there in amongst all

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it's her team planting them,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get freaked out by this again,

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Speaker 1: because you know, allegedly he called off the first marriage

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Speaker 2: And I also should have subscribed. I'm also a liar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe just double edging on that one. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez is making a really big effort to spend

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Speaker 1: I feel like another partygoer has obviously taken those. You

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, Unfortunately for me, I've experienced many a conversation

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Speaker 1: Yes, so is Matt Damon and Ben Affleck have been

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Speaker 2: But the same pattern, like the apologetic friend is always

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Speaker 2: For sure, be the thirty year old you always dream

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