1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:20,425 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Hey you beas Lee 4 00:00:20,505 --> 00:00:23,225 Speaker 2: here with a little treat fury is. I have an 5 00:00:23,225 --> 00:00:25,385 Speaker 2: episode of Nothing to Wear that I want you to 6 00:00:25,425 --> 00:00:28,985 Speaker 2: listen to because it's the Millennial versus gen Z debate 7 00:00:29,745 --> 00:00:33,665 Speaker 2: socks wallets, Do gen Z really even understand what we've 8 00:00:33,665 --> 00:00:36,825 Speaker 2: been through as millennials. It's hilarious, It's got the beautiful 9 00:00:36,825 --> 00:00:38,825 Speaker 2: Live James, and I'd love for you to listen and 10 00:00:38,865 --> 00:00:44,145 Speaker 2: get your opinion. Enjoy. Whoever said orange is a new 11 00:00:44,145 --> 00:00:49,425 Speaker 2: pink with seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you. 12 00:00:49,505 --> 00:00:51,545 Speaker 1: Have to do it. You live for fashion. 13 00:00:53,225 --> 00:00:56,265 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 14 00:00:56,385 --> 00:00:59,865 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 15 00:00:59,985 --> 00:01:02,705 Speaker 2: Campbell and every week I chat to an expert who 16 00:01:02,705 --> 00:01:04,785 Speaker 2: helps us work out how to get more out of 17 00:01:04,785 --> 00:01:07,785 Speaker 2: the clothes we already own and tells us exactly what 18 00:01:08,025 --> 00:01:11,625 Speaker 2: is and isn't worth adding to ourdrobes. Now, there's something 19 00:01:11,705 --> 00:01:13,945 Speaker 2: I have wanted to cover on the podcast for a 20 00:01:13,985 --> 00:01:18,345 Speaker 2: while because it really irritates me. It's the fashion feud 21 00:01:18,425 --> 00:01:23,105 Speaker 2: between gen Z and millennials, from socks to cross body 22 00:01:23,145 --> 00:01:26,225 Speaker 2: bags and everything in between. It seems these two generations 23 00:01:26,225 --> 00:01:28,665 Speaker 2: throughout war when it comes to what is quote unquote 24 00:01:28,705 --> 00:01:31,905 Speaker 2: cool to wear. So joining me again today is the 25 00:01:31,985 --> 00:01:36,105 Speaker 2: delightful and insightful Live James. She's our in house style 26 00:01:36,145 --> 00:01:39,545 Speaker 2: with brush, She's a social media extraordinaire and Live u 27 00:01:39,585 --> 00:01:41,585 Speaker 2: was first on the show when she taught us how 28 00:01:41,625 --> 00:01:44,665 Speaker 2: to master Pinterest, which honestly has been one of our 29 00:01:44,705 --> 00:01:48,265 Speaker 2: most popular episodes. Yet she's young and cool and the 30 00:01:48,305 --> 00:01:51,425 Speaker 2: perfect person to nat up this issue and hopefully put 31 00:01:51,465 --> 00:01:56,785 Speaker 2: the millennial versus gen Z fashion war to bed. Live 32 00:01:56,865 --> 00:01:57,545 Speaker 2: welcome back. 33 00:01:57,745 --> 00:01:59,985 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. 34 00:02:00,185 --> 00:02:02,425 Speaker 2: You were last on the show on the Pinterest episode, 35 00:02:02,425 --> 00:02:04,505 Speaker 2: which changed my life. But luckily I get to see 36 00:02:04,545 --> 00:02:07,185 Speaker 2: you every week and you are young and fun and cool, 37 00:02:07,225 --> 00:02:09,145 Speaker 2: and that's why you're here. Before we get into the topic, 38 00:02:09,825 --> 00:02:12,545 Speaker 2: the two questions I asked returning gets Yeah, what's your 39 00:02:12,545 --> 00:02:15,505 Speaker 2: biggest fashion splurge or impulse purchase? 40 00:02:15,745 --> 00:02:18,505 Speaker 3: Okay, so I like to be quite calculated about what 41 00:02:18,585 --> 00:02:22,225 Speaker 3: I buy because I do like to buy quality pieces 42 00:02:22,345 --> 00:02:24,545 Speaker 3: that sometimes cost a bit of money. And I have 43 00:02:24,625 --> 00:02:27,425 Speaker 3: to really think about it. But I did recently buy 44 00:02:27,505 --> 00:02:29,385 Speaker 3: a dress and I didn't think about it. 45 00:02:29,465 --> 00:02:31,465 Speaker 1: I probably thought about it for ten minutes because it 46 00:02:31,505 --> 00:02:33,145 Speaker 1: was love. It was just love. 47 00:02:33,385 --> 00:02:36,345 Speaker 3: And honestly it's from a brand called Upreas Studios, which 48 00:02:36,505 --> 00:02:38,625 Speaker 3: is Australian made like our prey, like. 49 00:02:38,585 --> 00:02:41,225 Speaker 2: With the s like the ski word. Yeah, okay, yeah, 50 00:02:41,905 --> 00:02:46,385 Speaker 2: going skiing. No okay, no, it's actually more like Victorian. Ah. Well, 51 00:02:46,465 --> 00:02:48,465 Speaker 2: last time you're on, we talked trends and there was 52 00:02:48,465 --> 00:02:50,665 Speaker 2: that we did weird Victorian. 53 00:02:50,225 --> 00:02:51,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, castle cor, castle Core. 54 00:02:52,025 --> 00:02:54,265 Speaker 3: Then I actually said that I wouldn't wear a drop 55 00:02:54,305 --> 00:02:57,065 Speaker 3: waist and guess what this has? 56 00:02:57,865 --> 00:03:01,185 Speaker 1: This brand went viral for the bubble mini dress. 57 00:03:01,745 --> 00:03:03,625 Speaker 2: I thought that was witchery again. No I don't, I'm 58 00:03:03,625 --> 00:03:05,785 Speaker 2: not anti. I just was there the first time, well 59 00:03:05,905 --> 00:03:06,945 Speaker 2: the first time for yes. 60 00:03:06,905 --> 00:03:07,905 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. 61 00:03:07,985 --> 00:03:10,825 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that went viral because Haley Beebe wore it 62 00:03:11,505 --> 00:03:12,265 Speaker 3: and very cool. 63 00:03:12,385 --> 00:03:14,625 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very cool and very cool. 64 00:03:14,745 --> 00:03:18,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like, okay, so I've been watching them. 65 00:03:18,145 --> 00:03:20,505 Speaker 3: The bubble mini dress I found hard because I was like, 66 00:03:20,585 --> 00:03:23,545 Speaker 3: I can't wear that every day, but this is a maxi. 67 00:03:24,065 --> 00:03:28,665 Speaker 3: It's like a plaid kind of blue and pink pattern heaven. 68 00:03:28,945 --> 00:03:32,305 Speaker 3: And it has an elastic top so it things really 69 00:03:32,425 --> 00:03:35,105 Speaker 3: nicely like clings to you, but then it pushes out 70 00:03:35,345 --> 00:03:38,025 Speaker 3: from where the m so it has a little bit 71 00:03:38,065 --> 00:03:40,345 Speaker 3: of a dropped waist. Ok So it kind of like 72 00:03:40,385 --> 00:03:43,585 Speaker 3: does a v oh yes, yes, h shapes really nice. 73 00:03:43,705 --> 00:03:46,465 Speaker 3: And it's the top like like Les Slaves top is 74 00:03:46,505 --> 00:03:50,145 Speaker 3: like a T shirt. Yeah, and it's one hundred percent cotton. 75 00:03:50,465 --> 00:03:52,265 Speaker 3: It was a bit spendy. It was around four hundred 76 00:03:52,305 --> 00:03:57,145 Speaker 3: dollars handmade though, like it is like, but I really. 77 00:03:57,065 --> 00:03:59,625 Speaker 2: Loved it and you're gonna wear the shit out of it. 78 00:03:59,705 --> 00:04:01,825 Speaker 1: I wore it to Easter. My mum loved it. 79 00:04:01,945 --> 00:04:04,945 Speaker 3: Okay, gets some mum tick of approval, and I can 80 00:04:04,945 --> 00:04:05,825 Speaker 3: wear it to work as well. 81 00:04:06,025 --> 00:04:09,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, all right, so you are quite considered. 82 00:04:09,345 --> 00:04:12,505 Speaker 2: I need to learn to not just to click and 83 00:04:12,585 --> 00:04:14,505 Speaker 2: not need my credit card. I mean, you wouldn't even 84 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:15,825 Speaker 2: know what it's like to need to go and get 85 00:04:15,825 --> 00:04:19,145 Speaker 2: your credit card out of you. Do you have a 86 00:04:19,265 --> 00:04:21,585 Speaker 2: style music? If so, who and why? 87 00:04:21,745 --> 00:04:22,425 Speaker 1: I've got two? 88 00:04:22,585 --> 00:04:25,345 Speaker 3: Okay, Automatically they spring to mind every time. There's this 89 00:04:25,385 --> 00:04:30,625 Speaker 3: one girl called Elsa Ray. She's on TikTok. She's awesome. 90 00:04:30,745 --> 00:04:33,505 Speaker 3: She's got around forty thousand followers. She lives in Melbourne's 91 00:04:33,545 --> 00:04:36,185 Speaker 3: not too huge, no, not massive, but. 92 00:04:36,225 --> 00:04:38,185 Speaker 1: She's a very cool. 93 00:04:38,665 --> 00:04:42,865 Speaker 3: But she's not afraid to mix patterns where they shouldn't 94 00:04:42,905 --> 00:04:45,385 Speaker 3: be and she does it in a very nice way, 95 00:04:45,585 --> 00:04:47,625 Speaker 3: and she does color in a considered way, but it 96 00:04:47,705 --> 00:04:50,465 Speaker 3: still feels fun. Okay, So I always like, I'm always 97 00:04:50,505 --> 00:04:51,505 Speaker 3: saving her videos. 98 00:04:51,225 --> 00:04:55,705 Speaker 2: Because fun with fashion. Yeah, very cool, but not like 99 00:04:55,985 --> 00:04:59,465 Speaker 2: trying to be generic cool girl cool. You're like quirky. 100 00:04:59,785 --> 00:05:02,665 Speaker 3: Yes, I hope you take no absolutely, and I think 101 00:05:02,745 --> 00:05:05,305 Speaker 3: she does that really well, but she still does it 102 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:07,545 Speaker 3: with pieces that you can get from like the iconic. 103 00:05:07,625 --> 00:05:09,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's not attainable. 104 00:05:09,265 --> 00:05:10,345 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. 105 00:05:10,385 --> 00:05:11,305 Speaker 2: Who's the other one? 106 00:05:13,065 --> 00:05:13,545 Speaker 3: Do you know what? 107 00:05:13,825 --> 00:05:15,785 Speaker 1: Literally I could literally put you into? 108 00:05:16,985 --> 00:05:19,385 Speaker 3: Although I feel like sometimes I wear things if you 109 00:05:19,465 --> 00:05:21,025 Speaker 3: wore you'd be like you would be. 110 00:05:21,025 --> 00:05:23,865 Speaker 2: Like, no way, no way. Who's the other one? 111 00:05:23,985 --> 00:05:27,225 Speaker 3: The other one is an og YouTuber from America. Her 112 00:05:27,265 --> 00:05:28,905 Speaker 3: name is Lexi Lombard and. 113 00:05:28,825 --> 00:05:30,505 Speaker 2: I think like Eve and I've heard that name. 114 00:05:30,585 --> 00:05:32,865 Speaker 1: She's so cool. She's friends with Billie Eilish and stuff like, 115 00:05:32,905 --> 00:05:36,065 Speaker 1: she's really cool. She's got say Billy Idol. 116 00:05:38,345 --> 00:05:40,225 Speaker 2: This is the perfect episode for me. 117 00:05:40,985 --> 00:05:44,265 Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, but you know, maybe a fan of 118 00:05:44,305 --> 00:05:48,185 Speaker 3: Billy Idol baby. So you know how, like obviously love Pinterest. 119 00:05:48,905 --> 00:05:51,785 Speaker 3: I'm subscribed to her Pinterest board, and I have a 120 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:54,745 Speaker 3: little widget on my phone home screen and it generates 121 00:05:54,825 --> 00:05:58,305 Speaker 3: new images every hour from my saved boards, which I 122 00:05:58,305 --> 00:05:59,945 Speaker 3: know might sound a little bit complicated. 123 00:06:00,145 --> 00:06:03,425 Speaker 2: I have that from my phone photos my kid as 124 00:06:03,425 --> 00:06:04,225 Speaker 2: a baby and stuff. 125 00:06:04,305 --> 00:06:07,025 Speaker 3: Yes, so it's exactly that, but for your Pinterest boards. 126 00:06:07,585 --> 00:06:10,265 Speaker 3: And every time a photo from her board hums up, 127 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:13,105 Speaker 3: I click on it and I'm like, I need that. 128 00:06:13,265 --> 00:06:15,425 Speaker 2: And we're going back to the pinter Do you have 129 00:06:15,465 --> 00:06:17,705 Speaker 2: to have saved the picture from Pinterest? So it's just 130 00:06:17,825 --> 00:06:18,945 Speaker 2: accounts you follow. 131 00:06:19,265 --> 00:06:21,705 Speaker 1: Just account you follow or subscribe to. It's the best. 132 00:06:21,745 --> 00:06:25,745 Speaker 3: It's like, so you're surrounding yourself with constant inspiration, like yeah, inspiration. 133 00:06:26,105 --> 00:06:27,065 Speaker 2: You live in the future. 134 00:06:27,305 --> 00:06:27,785 Speaker 1: I love it. 135 00:06:27,905 --> 00:06:30,385 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank god you're here live. I love you. 136 00:06:30,465 --> 00:06:33,105 Speaker 2: We talk a lot, We get along. We are twenty 137 00:06:33,225 --> 00:06:35,985 Speaker 2: years apart. We are almost I aged myself. Yet you're 138 00:06:35,985 --> 00:06:38,625 Speaker 2: twenty five. I'm forty three, so pretty much two decades 139 00:06:38,625 --> 00:06:41,585 Speaker 2: between us. And so that makes you technically, gen Z 140 00:06:41,985 --> 00:06:47,825 Speaker 2: me a millennial, technically an elder millennial, And I want 141 00:06:47,905 --> 00:06:49,345 Speaker 2: to ask you. I know you can't speak for your 142 00:06:49,465 --> 00:06:52,305 Speaker 2: entire generation, but how do you feel about all the 143 00:06:52,385 --> 00:06:54,705 Speaker 2: content and the articles and the things we say that 144 00:06:54,785 --> 00:06:57,425 Speaker 2: says ben Z says, they can tell someone's a millennial 145 00:06:57,465 --> 00:06:59,585 Speaker 2: when they wear dot dot dot like that kind of 146 00:06:59,625 --> 00:07:03,865 Speaker 2: content that feudes these two generations, mostly women, kind of 147 00:07:03,905 --> 00:07:04,665 Speaker 2: against each other. 148 00:07:04,705 --> 00:07:08,265 Speaker 3: It really does and look like it clicks, like it works, 149 00:07:08,905 --> 00:07:12,465 Speaker 3: like we know here there at work, absolutely, but personally, 150 00:07:12,945 --> 00:07:15,785 Speaker 3: I think it's really tired. And honestly, when I look 151 00:07:15,865 --> 00:07:18,585 Speaker 3: at the things that my like gen Z is obsessed 152 00:07:18,625 --> 00:07:23,705 Speaker 3: with right now, ballet flats, side parts, peplum, I'm sorry. 153 00:07:23,505 --> 00:07:26,265 Speaker 1: But like, where are all those coming from us? Yes? 154 00:07:26,425 --> 00:07:29,985 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and we're not I don't think we're afraid 155 00:07:30,025 --> 00:07:32,225 Speaker 3: to admit that. Like we all know that, and we 156 00:07:32,265 --> 00:07:34,705 Speaker 3: all understand that fashion has a cycle. 157 00:07:34,905 --> 00:07:35,985 Speaker 1: It always comes back. 158 00:07:36,385 --> 00:07:40,065 Speaker 2: Yes, but it's I guess for you guys, we're generalizing here, 159 00:07:40,065 --> 00:07:41,785 Speaker 2: but you know, to make the point, it's kind of 160 00:07:41,825 --> 00:07:44,305 Speaker 2: like your first time with that trend. Yes, And I 161 00:07:44,345 --> 00:07:47,185 Speaker 2: remember twenty years ago thinking I'm so cool and what 162 00:07:47,185 --> 00:07:50,265 Speaker 2: my mum wears is so daggy or whatever, but she's like, Babe, iye' 163 00:07:50,265 --> 00:07:52,105 Speaker 2: wore that twenty or thirty years ago. 164 00:07:52,385 --> 00:07:54,425 Speaker 3: Yes, And I think like a really good example when 165 00:07:54,465 --> 00:07:57,225 Speaker 3: I was thinking about it was there was an interview 166 00:07:57,265 --> 00:08:01,825 Speaker 3: with Apple Martin, Gwyneth's daughter, and Gwyneth has this amazing 167 00:08:01,985 --> 00:08:04,465 Speaker 3: archive closet that she's done a tour of and they 168 00:08:04,505 --> 00:08:07,305 Speaker 3: asked Apple. I can't remember what publication it was, but 169 00:08:07,345 --> 00:08:09,225 Speaker 3: they were like, do you go in there? And her 170 00:08:09,265 --> 00:08:12,945 Speaker 3: eyes literally lit up like my eyes would, and she goes, absolutely, 171 00:08:12,985 --> 00:08:15,625 Speaker 3: it's my favorite place cut And I was like, yeah, 172 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:19,945 Speaker 3: like we understand that maybe there's a few things that. 173 00:08:19,865 --> 00:08:23,465 Speaker 1: We don't love, Like you don't know, shoe socks. We'll 174 00:08:23,465 --> 00:08:24,105 Speaker 1: get into that. 175 00:08:24,225 --> 00:08:25,265 Speaker 2: We'll get into. 176 00:08:25,145 --> 00:08:27,985 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna budge on that I can, but you 177 00:08:27,985 --> 00:08:32,665 Speaker 3: guys walked so we could run. Yes, we're taking things 178 00:08:32,705 --> 00:08:35,345 Speaker 3: and we're rewriting it. But I also think a big 179 00:08:35,385 --> 00:08:38,785 Speaker 3: difference is that we're growing up with like Pinterest and TikTok, 180 00:08:38,825 --> 00:08:40,265 Speaker 3: where things happened really fast. 181 00:08:40,425 --> 00:08:43,345 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I bought Dolly or Cleo or Cosmo. I 182 00:08:43,385 --> 00:08:45,745 Speaker 2: saved up so once you know, Cosmo and Cleo came 183 00:08:45,785 --> 00:08:47,545 Speaker 2: out once a month and we would got that you 184 00:08:47,585 --> 00:08:49,865 Speaker 2: had a certain amount of pictures. Yeah, exactly, and then 185 00:08:49,905 --> 00:08:52,105 Speaker 2: you saw on out on the TV or a movie. God, 186 00:08:52,145 --> 00:08:55,865 Speaker 2: I sound old. So the amount of content and inspiration 187 00:08:56,265 --> 00:08:58,225 Speaker 2: that we all have access to now, but we didn't 188 00:08:58,225 --> 00:09:00,465 Speaker 2: really grow up in our formative years of deciding what 189 00:09:00,545 --> 00:09:03,025 Speaker 2: star was and there were so few stores and there 190 00:09:03,105 --> 00:09:05,705 Speaker 2: wasn't online shopping. So yeah, that's a big part of it. 191 00:09:05,665 --> 00:09:08,145 Speaker 3: Too, absolutely, And I think that's probably the biggest part 192 00:09:08,345 --> 00:09:11,905 Speaker 3: because we are pro grand to know. Okay, tomorrow, I'm 193 00:09:11,945 --> 00:09:14,545 Speaker 3: gonna like shift this one thing to be different. If 194 00:09:14,585 --> 00:09:17,545 Speaker 3: you guys were always taught to have like a capsual wardrobe, yes, 195 00:09:17,745 --> 00:09:18,945 Speaker 3: what fits your body this way? 196 00:09:19,105 --> 00:09:22,225 Speaker 2: All that current shopping, like maybe got a special treat 197 00:09:22,265 --> 00:09:24,985 Speaker 2: before Christmas to her in summer and then you bought 198 00:09:24,985 --> 00:09:26,425 Speaker 2: some winter stuff because it was cold. 199 00:09:26,785 --> 00:09:27,425 Speaker 1: Yeah. 200 00:09:27,465 --> 00:09:29,305 Speaker 2: Wow, I sound like I'm from the great No, But 201 00:09:29,385 --> 00:09:31,625 Speaker 2: like truly I think that that is a huge difference, 202 00:09:31,705 --> 00:09:34,345 Speaker 2: Like we go fast and you guys are more probably 203 00:09:34,345 --> 00:09:46,705 Speaker 2: considered all right, so gen Z in general, Yeah, how 204 00:09:46,745 --> 00:09:48,385 Speaker 2: do you think they feel about millennials or even gen 205 00:09:48,585 --> 00:09:50,185 Speaker 2: X Because you know, Holly and me are both here 206 00:09:50,225 --> 00:09:52,105 Speaker 2: at gen X and I think are very stylish. But 207 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:55,225 Speaker 2: in general, do you think older generations that are two 208 00:09:55,225 --> 00:09:59,705 Speaker 2: decades three decades older uncol old lady, too different to 209 00:09:59,745 --> 00:10:00,905 Speaker 2: what your friends wear. 210 00:10:01,345 --> 00:10:03,105 Speaker 1: I think it's like very personal. 211 00:10:03,305 --> 00:10:05,905 Speaker 3: I was on Instagram a few days ago and Kate 212 00:10:05,945 --> 00:10:08,985 Speaker 3: Middleton popped up and she was wearing a Baker Boy hat, 213 00:10:09,265 --> 00:10:10,105 Speaker 3: you know, the like. 214 00:10:10,185 --> 00:10:13,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what one is, and I, yeah. 215 00:10:13,265 --> 00:10:16,265 Speaker 1: I didn't you go. I was like, what's this? 216 00:10:16,905 --> 00:10:19,785 Speaker 3: And I then got on the phone to my mum 217 00:10:20,065 --> 00:10:22,825 Speaker 3: and she's gen X yeah, and. 218 00:10:22,705 --> 00:10:25,465 Speaker 1: She was like I had one of those hats and 219 00:10:25,505 --> 00:10:26,745 Speaker 1: I was like, I actually really like it. 220 00:10:26,825 --> 00:10:28,625 Speaker 3: Yeah, it made me want to buy it. And I 221 00:10:28,625 --> 00:10:31,705 Speaker 3: think Vogue called it a style revival or something. They 222 00:10:31,745 --> 00:10:34,185 Speaker 3: didn't call it old, they didn't call it hugi or 223 00:10:34,305 --> 00:10:35,985 Speaker 3: you know, just lame or anything. 224 00:10:35,985 --> 00:10:37,105 Speaker 1: They were like, it's coming back. 225 00:10:37,665 --> 00:10:42,065 Speaker 3: So I think that I don't think it's about age, 226 00:10:42,145 --> 00:10:44,385 Speaker 3: like I really don't. I think it's like there's these 227 00:10:44,425 --> 00:10:46,785 Speaker 3: weird mental blocks and I see it in the office. 228 00:10:46,825 --> 00:10:48,185 Speaker 3: I see it with people that I talked to that 229 00:10:48,225 --> 00:10:49,585 Speaker 3: they're like I just couldn't wear. 230 00:10:49,425 --> 00:10:52,345 Speaker 2: That, yes, And I'm like, but you could, yeah, you 231 00:10:52,425 --> 00:10:54,745 Speaker 2: really could. Or I couldn't shop there. I couldn't wear 232 00:10:54,745 --> 00:10:55,745 Speaker 2: that because of my age. 233 00:10:55,945 --> 00:10:56,225 Speaker 1: Yeah. 234 00:10:56,305 --> 00:10:58,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a mental barrier I've had to overcome, 235 00:10:58,745 --> 00:11:01,025 Speaker 2: and you know, don't really think about now, but it's 236 00:11:01,025 --> 00:11:02,425 Speaker 2: a lot of the listeners here as well. 237 00:11:02,625 --> 00:11:02,985 Speaker 1: Yeah. 238 00:11:03,025 --> 00:11:07,745 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think I it's hard because obviously there's 239 00:11:08,025 --> 00:11:11,065 Speaker 3: things that you're like, my I'm rocked up to, like 240 00:11:11,225 --> 00:11:13,825 Speaker 3: family dinner and she was wearing like a Von Dutch 241 00:11:13,905 --> 00:11:16,425 Speaker 3: cap and like jaorts. 242 00:11:16,545 --> 00:11:18,625 Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, like something's wrong. 243 00:11:18,545 --> 00:11:20,265 Speaker 2: Totally, And how old he? 244 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:20,425 Speaker 1: Mum? 245 00:11:20,505 --> 00:11:21,185 Speaker 2: Do your mommy asking? 246 00:11:21,265 --> 00:11:21,825 Speaker 1: Fifty two? 247 00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:24,625 Speaker 2: Yeah? See she's young. That's me or in Holly's age. Yeah, 248 00:11:24,705 --> 00:11:27,665 Speaker 2: if your mom did Jaughts with like a really cool shirt, 249 00:11:27,985 --> 00:11:30,585 Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Like it's more about the item and how 250 00:11:30,585 --> 00:11:33,545 Speaker 2: it's styled across generations, right, rather than an entire look. 251 00:11:33,665 --> 00:11:35,945 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like rewriting it and doing it in your 252 00:11:35,985 --> 00:11:39,225 Speaker 3: own way and making sure that it actually still feels 253 00:11:39,265 --> 00:11:41,785 Speaker 3: like you. So I guess that's probably what would freak 254 00:11:41,825 --> 00:11:43,625 Speaker 3: me out. If mum wore the way that I wore it, 255 00:11:44,185 --> 00:11:47,185 Speaker 3: I'd be like, what's going on? But maybe she could like, 256 00:11:47,265 --> 00:11:49,745 Speaker 3: you know, maybe should go red Jaughts, and. 257 00:11:49,625 --> 00:11:51,825 Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's cool danim jaw with 258 00:11:51,865 --> 00:11:53,545 Speaker 2: a nice shirt. 259 00:11:53,825 --> 00:11:56,105 Speaker 1: Actually that's no, No, that's true. I could actually see 260 00:11:56,305 --> 00:11:59,065 Speaker 1: like you would fill that ort. Yeah. 261 00:11:59,105 --> 00:12:02,305 Speaker 2: So as a gen Z and it's someone that professionally 262 00:12:02,345 --> 00:12:05,145 Speaker 2: gets paid to run social media. Where do you get 263 00:12:05,145 --> 00:12:08,665 Speaker 2: your stylinspo from? Where do you see cool brands, cool trends, 264 00:12:08,665 --> 00:12:14,345 Speaker 2: cool looks, cool peace? Because for me, I'm still mostly Instagram. Yeah, 265 00:12:14,345 --> 00:12:17,425 Speaker 2: but that was a big departure for me from magazines 266 00:12:17,465 --> 00:12:19,265 Speaker 2: and then websites. 267 00:12:18,785 --> 00:12:23,545 Speaker 3: Yeh, bogs absolutely mainly TikTok like that. When I really 268 00:12:23,585 --> 00:12:25,265 Speaker 3: come down to it and I'm like, Okay, where do 269 00:12:25,305 --> 00:12:27,425 Speaker 3: I see something and then want to buy it? It 270 00:12:27,545 --> 00:12:30,065 Speaker 3: is always TikTok and I think it has kind of 271 00:12:30,425 --> 00:12:33,305 Speaker 3: taken over what would have been magazines for you guys. 272 00:12:33,385 --> 00:12:36,945 Speaker 2: Yes, and even Instagram. I feel like my generation's kind 273 00:12:36,985 --> 00:12:39,585 Speaker 2: of slowly maybe being forced to go on to TikTok. 274 00:12:39,785 --> 00:12:42,465 Speaker 2: We love Instagram, but your generation tends to go to 275 00:12:42,505 --> 00:12:43,665 Speaker 2: TikTok first for that. 276 00:12:44,025 --> 00:12:45,945 Speaker 3: And I use it as a search engine just as 277 00:12:45,985 --> 00:12:47,705 Speaker 3: much as I'll go to Google and be like, Okay, 278 00:12:47,745 --> 00:12:51,665 Speaker 3: I want to find a white sneaker, I will look 279 00:12:51,705 --> 00:12:54,385 Speaker 3: that up in TikTok first. What so I can see 280 00:12:54,385 --> 00:12:56,945 Speaker 3: someone talking about it, and I can see them putting 281 00:12:56,985 --> 00:13:00,025 Speaker 3: it on, and I can see them being honest about it. Yeah, 282 00:13:00,025 --> 00:13:02,145 Speaker 3: and also I can see how they style it, and 283 00:13:02,185 --> 00:13:04,145 Speaker 3: that way, I won't just get the same white sneaker 284 00:13:04,145 --> 00:13:05,905 Speaker 3: all over and over again, and I won't just get 285 00:13:05,905 --> 00:13:07,385 Speaker 3: that like stock image of it on. 286 00:13:07,345 --> 00:13:09,385 Speaker 1: A white background. Like I'm like, what can I actually 287 00:13:09,385 --> 00:13:10,665 Speaker 1: do with that? Nothing? 288 00:13:10,945 --> 00:13:13,585 Speaker 3: So then I'll watch this video see how I style it. 289 00:13:13,585 --> 00:13:17,265 Speaker 3: If I like the whole outfit screenshot. Asos, which I 290 00:13:17,305 --> 00:13:19,865 Speaker 3: really love, has this feature where you can upload a 291 00:13:19,905 --> 00:13:23,705 Speaker 3: screenshotted voto and you can put it into their search 292 00:13:23,745 --> 00:13:25,305 Speaker 3: engine and they'll just pop out. 293 00:13:25,105 --> 00:13:27,585 Speaker 2: All the similar similar part. I've seen what the little 294 00:13:27,625 --> 00:13:29,305 Speaker 2: button on the website and I was like, that looks 295 00:13:29,345 --> 00:13:29,905 Speaker 2: like the future. 296 00:13:29,985 --> 00:13:31,065 Speaker 1: It is actually the future. 297 00:13:31,185 --> 00:13:33,945 Speaker 2: I know how to reverse Google image. Yeah that's good too, 298 00:13:33,985 --> 00:13:34,825 Speaker 2: but it's not as good. 299 00:13:35,105 --> 00:13:37,185 Speaker 1: It's not as good. It's not as good. 300 00:13:37,265 --> 00:13:40,745 Speaker 2: Would you say you follow fashion trends? I mean, I 301 00:13:40,825 --> 00:13:42,945 Speaker 2: get to blame my job and I think that I'm 302 00:13:42,945 --> 00:13:46,065 Speaker 2: original and stylish, but I really do follow a lot 303 00:13:46,105 --> 00:13:48,785 Speaker 2: of fashion trends each season, and I'm happy to admit it. 304 00:13:48,785 --> 00:13:50,585 Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a sheep. I'm kind of a 305 00:13:50,665 --> 00:13:53,745 Speaker 2: mid sheep. I'm not a leader, but I'm not a follower. 306 00:13:53,865 --> 00:13:56,705 Speaker 2: Do you think you follow trends and I feel like 307 00:13:56,785 --> 00:13:59,785 Speaker 2: your generation don't as much, or maybe we're just seeing 308 00:13:59,825 --> 00:14:02,305 Speaker 2: a whole different world of trends that aren't Yeah, because 309 00:14:02,305 --> 00:14:03,505 Speaker 2: I'm not looking away your trends are. 310 00:14:03,585 --> 00:14:05,665 Speaker 3: I think it's hard because, like, you could probably find 311 00:14:05,665 --> 00:14:08,305 Speaker 3: someone that dresses exactly the same way as you now 312 00:14:08,705 --> 00:14:11,705 Speaker 3: in probably like five minutes, so everything kind. 313 00:14:11,505 --> 00:14:12,425 Speaker 1: Of feels like you. 314 00:14:12,905 --> 00:14:14,905 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I really struggle with that, I think like 315 00:14:14,985 --> 00:14:17,225 Speaker 3: half the time because it is very important to me 316 00:14:17,425 --> 00:14:20,465 Speaker 3: that I feel like I'm dressing as myself and like 317 00:14:20,585 --> 00:14:23,945 Speaker 3: in an individual way. But there's like memes at the 318 00:14:23,945 --> 00:14:26,305 Speaker 3: moment that are like, have I ever had an original thought? 319 00:14:26,425 --> 00:14:28,945 Speaker 3: Because you see people doing the same thing as you, 320 00:14:29,025 --> 00:14:31,025 Speaker 3: even if you thought you were the first person. 321 00:14:30,785 --> 00:14:31,465 Speaker 1: In the world to do it. 322 00:14:31,545 --> 00:14:34,265 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like three sneakers that are on my wish 323 00:14:34,265 --> 00:14:34,985 Speaker 3: list right now. 324 00:14:35,105 --> 00:14:36,105 Speaker 2: Well, tell me about the place. 325 00:14:36,225 --> 00:14:38,865 Speaker 3: Bad Bunny has a new collab with Addidas. It's like 326 00:14:38,865 --> 00:14:40,265 Speaker 3: a ballerina shoe. 327 00:14:40,345 --> 00:14:42,425 Speaker 2: I have seen those. I thought Bad Bunny was the 328 00:14:42,425 --> 00:14:43,105 Speaker 2: brand to start with. 329 00:14:43,185 --> 00:14:45,105 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my God, I'm the singer he 330 00:14:45,225 --> 00:14:46,705 Speaker 3: dated Kendall Jennifer a little bit. 331 00:14:46,705 --> 00:14:49,225 Speaker 2: I never heard of him. Okay, what's the next one? 332 00:14:49,345 --> 00:14:51,945 Speaker 3: The other one is Essex has done this collab with 333 00:14:52,185 --> 00:14:56,825 Speaker 3: a brand called MFG Story MFG and it's Gingham and 334 00:14:57,025 --> 00:14:59,185 Speaker 3: so the whole thing is in a Gingham pattern. 335 00:14:59,265 --> 00:15:01,225 Speaker 1: It's really cute. Looks like a little picnic. 336 00:15:01,665 --> 00:15:04,265 Speaker 3: Another one which will be interesting for you, and I 337 00:15:04,305 --> 00:15:06,265 Speaker 3: actually think you could look really good in these. 338 00:15:06,545 --> 00:15:07,905 Speaker 1: Do you know the brand Merril? 339 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:10,465 Speaker 2: No, isn't it? I? Yeah? 340 00:15:10,625 --> 00:15:10,905 Speaker 3: Yeah? 341 00:15:11,065 --> 00:15:13,665 Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it like a raincoat brand or something like? 342 00:15:13,705 --> 00:15:15,425 Speaker 1: It's like they're like a hiking brand. 343 00:15:15,505 --> 00:15:16,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, like so like outdoor. 344 00:15:17,105 --> 00:15:18,025 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 345 00:15:18,225 --> 00:15:22,385 Speaker 3: But they're having a bit of a rebrand and I 346 00:15:22,425 --> 00:15:25,305 Speaker 3: would die to see you in these shoes. They're doing 347 00:15:25,345 --> 00:15:27,905 Speaker 3: this like rebrand and they're cool now. Like I was 348 00:15:27,945 --> 00:15:30,785 Speaker 3: just in Tokyo, which you were was amazing. Whole other 349 00:15:30,785 --> 00:15:34,305 Speaker 3: topic we need to cover whole other topic. But they 350 00:15:34,425 --> 00:15:37,225 Speaker 3: had a storefront in Shibuyah, and I was like, Okay, 351 00:15:37,425 --> 00:15:40,265 Speaker 3: I'm clocking this, like you guys are on the rise. Okay, 352 00:15:40,345 --> 00:15:43,185 Speaker 3: because if it's in Tokyo and if they have a storefront, 353 00:15:43,345 --> 00:15:44,185 Speaker 3: something's going on. 354 00:15:44,305 --> 00:15:45,785 Speaker 2: Okay. But what did the shoe look like? 355 00:15:45,905 --> 00:15:48,065 Speaker 1: They look like dad shoes, but there's. 356 00:15:47,865 --> 00:15:48,985 Speaker 2: One dad sneaker. 357 00:15:49,185 --> 00:15:52,265 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they can get really hikey, like okay, like 358 00:15:52,345 --> 00:15:54,585 Speaker 3: you really are going for a track. But there's one 359 00:15:54,625 --> 00:15:59,785 Speaker 3: specific pair that is a leather woven slip on kind 360 00:15:59,865 --> 00:16:01,825 Speaker 3: of slide but it's closed toe. 361 00:16:02,225 --> 00:16:06,065 Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds okay and not in Crocteray is it? 362 00:16:06,185 --> 00:16:07,225 Speaker 2: Does it feel krocky? 363 00:16:07,305 --> 00:16:11,505 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say no, oh god, but it's just cool. 364 00:16:11,825 --> 00:16:14,105 Speaker 2: But see, that's where I think it's so clever of you. 365 00:16:14,145 --> 00:16:16,065 Speaker 2: Maybe because of your generation or your job that you've 366 00:16:16,065 --> 00:16:18,225 Speaker 2: seen that I would have falled past and gone ugly shoe, 367 00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:21,825 Speaker 2: ugly shop, keep going. Maybe that's why I keep shopping 368 00:16:21,825 --> 00:16:22,465 Speaker 2: in the same way. 369 00:16:22,465 --> 00:16:24,705 Speaker 1: I most think. We have this thing where it's like, 370 00:16:24,745 --> 00:16:28,185 Speaker 1: if it's ugly, we'll like it. The uglier the better. 371 00:16:28,585 --> 00:16:32,145 Speaker 3: I do feel like that you can't be wearing a 372 00:16:32,185 --> 00:16:35,705 Speaker 3: shoe like that with an outfit that doesn't feel delicate. 373 00:16:35,665 --> 00:16:36,665 Speaker 2: Or a balance. 374 00:16:36,745 --> 00:16:39,465 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got a balance, you know, the wrong shoe theory. Yes, 375 00:16:39,545 --> 00:16:41,585 Speaker 3: So you put your outfit on and then you go, 376 00:16:41,705 --> 00:16:43,065 Speaker 3: what shoe would I never wear with this? 377 00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:44,905 Speaker 1: And you put that shoe on? Yeah, and that's a 378 00:16:44,905 --> 00:16:47,025 Speaker 1: good outfit. It kind of stems into. 379 00:16:46,825 --> 00:16:48,985 Speaker 2: That I like that your generation knows that hairy. 380 00:16:49,145 --> 00:16:49,385 Speaker 3: Yeah. 381 00:16:49,505 --> 00:17:01,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna play a game. We both have to answer. 382 00:17:01,265 --> 00:17:03,785 Speaker 2: I have at never thought about mine, yeah, twenty years apart. 383 00:17:03,985 --> 00:17:06,865 Speaker 2: We both answer what we'd likely to wear to these 384 00:17:06,985 --> 00:17:10,505 Speaker 2: following occasions. So clothes, use accessories, all of it. Okay, 385 00:17:10,705 --> 00:17:12,865 Speaker 2: the first scenario, you're going to and I'm going to 386 00:17:12,985 --> 00:17:15,185 Speaker 2: it's dinner with friends, so male female, and we're at 387 00:17:15,385 --> 00:17:17,305 Speaker 2: quite a fancy restaurant. And then we're going to a 388 00:17:17,345 --> 00:17:19,745 Speaker 2: bar after to people of your aage go to a bar, yes, 389 00:17:19,785 --> 00:17:21,865 Speaker 2: oh good, Okay, go to a bar. What are you wearing? 390 00:17:22,265 --> 00:17:23,185 Speaker 1: I will probably go. 391 00:17:23,265 --> 00:17:25,385 Speaker 3: You know, I am a sucker for the trend at 392 00:17:25,385 --> 00:17:26,865 Speaker 3: the moment with the sheer skirtes. 393 00:17:26,905 --> 00:17:27,945 Speaker 1: I love the sheer skirt. 394 00:17:28,065 --> 00:17:30,665 Speaker 2: I both call me onto my favorite run from Verge 395 00:17:30,665 --> 00:17:32,265 Speaker 2: Girl that you said you were gonna buy and I 396 00:17:32,345 --> 00:17:34,625 Speaker 2: bought a first. If we don't hang out. 397 00:17:35,505 --> 00:17:37,825 Speaker 3: I'm still you're together, but I'd probably go. Let's say 398 00:17:37,825 --> 00:17:40,825 Speaker 3: that skirt. I'd go that skirt and just an oversized 399 00:17:40,865 --> 00:17:43,305 Speaker 3: T shirt. We've got a few situations that you're going 400 00:17:43,345 --> 00:17:46,425 Speaker 3: to give me. I could wear maybe all of my 401 00:17:46,465 --> 00:17:49,585 Speaker 3: suggestions to any of them, which is interesting. 402 00:17:49,185 --> 00:17:51,625 Speaker 2: But we're not anti. This is we're at a fancy restaurant, 403 00:17:51,785 --> 00:17:53,585 Speaker 2: So what shoe were you doing? 404 00:17:53,585 --> 00:17:55,865 Speaker 3: I would do a kitten heel. Okay, I love a 405 00:17:55,905 --> 00:17:58,025 Speaker 3: kitten heel. One of my favorite kittenhels at the moment 406 00:17:58,065 --> 00:17:59,865 Speaker 3: is from Zara. It's got a leopard print on it 407 00:17:59,905 --> 00:18:03,185 Speaker 3: with a little bow. Looks very ninety and then a 408 00:18:03,185 --> 00:18:04,545 Speaker 3: bit of patent clashing there. 409 00:18:04,945 --> 00:18:06,425 Speaker 1: Catch would tickle my brain. 410 00:18:06,425 --> 00:18:09,625 Speaker 2: And the skirt is quite dressy, so the t shirt 411 00:18:09,825 --> 00:18:11,385 Speaker 2: okay for the fanciness, and. 412 00:18:11,345 --> 00:18:14,905 Speaker 3: I would do like a pretty statement necklace and gold hoops. 413 00:18:15,185 --> 00:18:18,305 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm vibing that. Yeah. I probably would wear a 414 00:18:18,345 --> 00:18:21,105 Speaker 2: sheer skirt too, because I skied, you know, a Maxi 415 00:18:21,145 --> 00:18:24,625 Speaker 2: skirt or lacey sheerie. But I don't think i'd do 416 00:18:24,665 --> 00:18:27,705 Speaker 2: a tea to a fancy restaurant I've been loving. It's 417 00:18:27,705 --> 00:18:29,705 Speaker 2: not a single top, but it's a sleeveless sort of 418 00:18:29,785 --> 00:18:32,185 Speaker 2: lower neck but long enough to cover the bum and 419 00:18:32,265 --> 00:18:35,745 Speaker 2: the front. Not actually i've seen you, so that not 420 00:18:35,785 --> 00:18:39,065 Speaker 2: everyone's seeing my undies. I'd probably do a higher heel 421 00:18:39,105 --> 00:18:42,945 Speaker 2: because I still have that hangover from where we fancy 422 00:18:42,985 --> 00:18:46,065 Speaker 2: restaurant means high heel your generation doesn't have. We don't, 423 00:18:46,105 --> 00:18:49,425 Speaker 2: and probably a blazer, nice oversized. Yes, all right, you're 424 00:18:49,425 --> 00:18:52,865 Speaker 2: going to brunch with your girl group. Yes, I would do. 425 00:18:52,905 --> 00:18:56,025 Speaker 3: A cute little like a mini dress and the knee 426 00:18:56,065 --> 00:19:00,705 Speaker 3: high boots. Oh wow, yeah, but not healed like the 427 00:19:00,785 --> 00:19:06,025 Speaker 3: flat knee high. Or I would do a coored okay, yeah, 428 00:19:06,465 --> 00:19:09,905 Speaker 3: so like double denim, something like that, sneak denim, like 429 00:19:09,985 --> 00:19:12,065 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do a kitten heel. 430 00:19:12,185 --> 00:19:14,625 Speaker 2: Okay, no, right, no, I wouldn't do a sneaker with 431 00:19:14,665 --> 00:19:18,385 Speaker 2: the ministress. Yeah, okay, and your socks, because you loves socks. 432 00:19:18,425 --> 00:19:22,985 Speaker 3: Yeah, snick always ankle length socks always, probably a poper color. 433 00:19:23,665 --> 00:19:27,065 Speaker 2: Okay. I'm going to wear my high waisted barrel leg jeans, 434 00:19:27,065 --> 00:19:29,705 Speaker 2: of which I have seven hundred and fifty pairs. I 435 00:19:29,865 --> 00:19:31,385 Speaker 2: try and wear sandals for as long as they can 436 00:19:31,425 --> 00:19:33,265 Speaker 2: because I hate winter shoes. But if it's cold, I 437 00:19:33,425 --> 00:19:34,065 Speaker 2: do a loafer. 438 00:19:34,425 --> 00:19:34,825 Speaker 1: Okay. 439 00:19:35,105 --> 00:19:37,305 Speaker 2: I don't really do a lot of trainers or sneakers. 440 00:19:37,425 --> 00:19:40,065 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna do a T shirt, probably a plain 441 00:19:40,145 --> 00:19:41,825 Speaker 2: T shirt like I've got on today with a belt, 442 00:19:41,985 --> 00:19:44,945 Speaker 2: or a T shirt with a respectable logo, like an 443 00:19:44,945 --> 00:19:48,145 Speaker 2: anine being or something that says I'm a bit fancy, 444 00:19:48,185 --> 00:19:51,625 Speaker 2: but it's not like chill Louis Bitton. Yeah nice, that's me. 445 00:19:51,825 --> 00:19:52,305 Speaker 1: I like that. 446 00:19:52,545 --> 00:19:54,745 Speaker 2: So you're going to a work related event, I guess 447 00:19:54,785 --> 00:19:58,585 Speaker 2: in our industry so creative. You're not going to the ballet? 448 00:19:58,625 --> 00:20:00,585 Speaker 2: Maybe you are, But what would you wear with the 449 00:20:00,625 --> 00:20:01,305 Speaker 2: work stuff? 450 00:20:01,425 --> 00:20:05,785 Speaker 3: I would probably go with the suit, but a colored suit, 451 00:20:06,745 --> 00:20:08,705 Speaker 3: and then I'll do a graphic tea under it. 452 00:20:08,825 --> 00:20:12,465 Speaker 1: Oh cool, prribly with an image. See yes, it's a 453 00:20:12,465 --> 00:20:12,985 Speaker 1: bit of like. 454 00:20:13,145 --> 00:20:15,345 Speaker 2: You can see something popping out. Yeah, I'm vibing that, 455 00:20:15,425 --> 00:20:17,065 Speaker 2: and that's very mea yeah, like. 456 00:20:17,025 --> 00:20:18,985 Speaker 3: A Meryl Streep like can you imagine you've got like 457 00:20:19,025 --> 00:20:21,545 Speaker 3: a matching suit on and then Meryl Streep is like 458 00:20:21,705 --> 00:20:22,465 Speaker 3: just on your shirt? 459 00:20:22,825 --> 00:20:24,665 Speaker 2: And what's our footwear for this work event? 460 00:20:24,785 --> 00:20:26,585 Speaker 1: I would probably do a little kitten hill as well. 461 00:20:26,625 --> 00:20:29,785 Speaker 2: Okay, good, just to like you know, for me, I 462 00:20:29,825 --> 00:20:31,585 Speaker 2: do still go to a lot of work events. I 463 00:20:31,625 --> 00:20:34,665 Speaker 2: am generally a low kitten heel, maybe even a loafer 464 00:20:34,665 --> 00:20:38,265 Speaker 2: if it's not that dressy. I don't believe into string 465 00:20:38,305 --> 00:20:41,465 Speaker 2: straps or anything too thin for a shoulder for anything 466 00:20:41,505 --> 00:20:45,225 Speaker 2: work related. But again that's a hangover from my old days. 467 00:20:45,785 --> 00:20:47,985 Speaker 2: Or if I do, everything else has to be very covered. 468 00:20:48,145 --> 00:20:50,865 Speaker 2: So I would probably do like a pant, like a 469 00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:52,745 Speaker 2: nice wide leg pant, and probably a shirt. 470 00:20:53,545 --> 00:20:55,025 Speaker 1: Looks very simple and very simple. 471 00:20:55,065 --> 00:20:56,225 Speaker 2: What I could I guess I could be in a 472 00:20:56,265 --> 00:21:00,505 Speaker 2: lawyer's office, live James. Thank you for representing your wonderful 473 00:21:00,585 --> 00:21:04,305 Speaker 2: generation who can run because we walked. And I love 474 00:21:04,345 --> 00:21:06,385 Speaker 2: that we're trying to put to rest the generational war 475 00:21:06,505 --> 00:21:08,785 Speaker 2: fashion because yeah, fun, yes, and it's. 476 00:21:08,665 --> 00:21:11,385 Speaker 1: Close of fun. I'm good, lad for rich, absolutely, Thank 477 00:21:11,385 --> 00:21:12,305 Speaker 1: you so much for having. 478 00:21:12,145 --> 00:21:14,825 Speaker 2: Me, thank you for joining me, thank you for listening 479 00:21:14,825 --> 00:21:16,945 Speaker 2: to Nothing to Wear, and don't forget to sign up 480 00:21:16,985 --> 00:21:18,985 Speaker 2: to the matching newsletter. There's a link in the show 481 00:21:19,025 --> 00:21:22,585 Speaker 2: notes and it's free. See you next week. This episode 482 00:21:22,665 --> 00:21:25,825 Speaker 2: was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production by Lou Hill.