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Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to Cancel,

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Speaker 1: the podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and as

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Speaker 1: science charges and sentences to them so that we can

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Speaker 1: all move on with our lives. My name is Jesse

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Speaker 1: Stevens and I'm joined by Claire Stevens and Claire. Today

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Speaker 1: we are talking about Billie Eilish Love.

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Speaker 2: Hi Mina Class, My mon Stone.

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Speaker 3: I'm really flipped out by teenagers, dude, but I am

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Speaker 3: one too, so I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll make it into a game.

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Speaker 1: If they'll say something.

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Speaker 4: I'll be like, oh my god, I love this thing,

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Speaker 4: and they'll be like I love it too, And then

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Speaker 4: immediately I'll be like, no, I hate that, and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I hate it too. And it's like weird that it

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Speaker 4: works because it's sad, because it's like, just.

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Speaker 1: Be real, like what are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to talk to a clone on myself.

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Speaker 2: I don't even like myself. If someone's like, oh god,

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Speaker 2: you're so you fall apart so much, like you're so annoying,

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Speaker 2: Like you're always fucking like sad. I'm like, I know

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Speaker 2: I have to be in this bitch all the time,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm aware of how annoying it is.

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Speaker 1: May you please guess the middle is Billy Eilish her

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Speaker 1: real name. Yeah, yep, wow, Okay, you got three seconds

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Speaker 1: three two one Joe. Well, well do you mean Joe?

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Speaker 1: I meant Joel. Okay, no, it's Pirate. Her full name

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Speaker 1: Pirate is in as in the criminal. Her full name

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Speaker 1: is Billy Eilish, Pirate Beard O'Connell. Okay, okay, Well, technically

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Speaker 1: pirate is the middle name because you're right in the middle. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: i'd say Eilish. Well, then what's pirate? It's her confirmation

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Speaker 1: she's nacked up to Saint Pirates. Yeah, oh the rough sea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's for when your boat gets crashed, you pray to

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Speaker 1: Saint Pirate. I'm just thinking how as an adult, pirates

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Speaker 1: come up enough, and Pirates are really fun because and

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Speaker 1: this is the reason they're just telling Captain Philip Captain Phillip, sir, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I watched it recently. Yeah, can confirm still a brilliant film. Well,

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Speaker 1: what I will say is Pirates should come up more

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Speaker 1: because pirates are real. They are real, and it's like

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Speaker 1: they don't bear much of resemblance to the pirates and

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Speaker 1: children's books, which are fun because it's like walking the

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Speaker 1: plank and like they have a hook an Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but still I still think sea criminals are an interesting

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Speaker 1: brand of criminals. I do too that we don't talk

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Speaker 1: about it enough because I'm always like, how do you

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Speaker 1: bought the boat? Because it's like, don't they just not

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Speaker 1: let you on the boat. No, because they get these

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Speaker 1: ladders you see. And Captain Pilott. She was born in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. I hate which makes her four

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Speaker 1: years old. She rose to twenty. She was not born

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. Fuck, you know, I'm just like sick

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Speaker 1: when it comes to number. It was two thousand and one, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because twenty eleven she'd be thirteen, which is thirty. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She was born in two thousand and one, one year

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Speaker 1: after the Sydney Olympic Games. She rose to fame in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. She was fourteen years old, and she rose

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Speaker 1: to fame with Ocean Eyes. Since then, she sung the

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Speaker 1: theme song for James Bond and for Barbie. She won

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Speaker 1: the Academy Award for both name and award. She's won it.

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Speaker 1: She's in the Guinness Book of World Records. Hold on,

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Speaker 1: you didn't give me a chance? Oh name an award

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Speaker 1: an Aria. I wouldn't be surprised. She doesn't want that,

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Speaker 1: long doesn't want it. She's in the Guinness Book of

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Speaker 1: World Records. And then I went, I wonder what she's

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Speaker 1: Guinness Book of World Records was obsessed with how far

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Speaker 1: you could pop your eyeballs out of bed? That was

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Speaker 1: if she was in there for something really not related,

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Speaker 1: not related, like oh, she's actually consumed the most big

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Speaker 1: My structure for today is as follows, calling people who

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Speaker 1: oh no, having some feedback for rap music, a racist slur,

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Speaker 1: queer baiting, and a weird, gross and also wrong Halloween costume.

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Speaker 1: Oh no. Firstly, calling people who sleep walk creepy a

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Speaker 1: tale as old as time. In twenty nineteen, Billie Eilish

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Speaker 1: was interviewed by Pitchfork, and I'm going to play you

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Speaker 1: an excerpt of what she said in this interview. I

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Speaker 1: don't sleep walk. Shit is terrifying. That's terrifying.

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Speaker 3: And then there's like stories about people like waking up

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Speaker 3: with like a knife, like over someone and they don't

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Speaker 3: remember it. Okay, Oh sleepwalking, Oh sleep bark That shit

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Speaker 3: is creepy. Tie yourself to your bed.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Do some bondage on yourself. I don't care. Claire,

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Speaker 1: this interview, which appears to have very few questions, is

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Speaker 1: ten minutes long. And is it just an eighteen year

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Speaker 1: someone in front of a camera and demand they speak

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Speaker 1: indefinitely the weird things I would say if given free

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Speaker 1: rein the weird places, because you know you're in a

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Speaker 1: Oh you go weird, and you go weird to fill

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Speaker 1: the silence. And then you're like, I don't even think that. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think she thinks sleepwalking is creepy. I just

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Speaker 1: that sleepwalking is creepy, it is that's not offensive to

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Speaker 1: people with sleepwalk. That's offensive to sleepwalking, and sleepwalking isn't offended.

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Speaker 1: If it is, that's creepy, that is creepy. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: she says that if you sleepwalk, you should like tie

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Speaker 1: yourself to the bed or something so you don't sleepwalk. Yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: we should. We should live in a Billie Eilish for

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Speaker 1: more solutions from more solutions to life, because when you

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Speaker 1: your partner going, I've really got to get this sorted

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Speaker 1: the block. And I have no evidence that that wouldn't happen,

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Speaker 1: because it's like, in my head it was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: makes total sense. Yeah, why do people who said, well,

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Speaker 1: I quote lazy as fuck because they're like, and I

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Speaker 1: quote I don't want to teach you, bitch. For context,

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Speaker 1: Eilish was homeschool She's never been to school, and she

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Speaker 1: said she learned maths from cooking with her mum, and

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Speaker 1: she learned how to build shit from her dad. I'm

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Speaker 1: not in the business of canceling people, but if I

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Speaker 1: was going to comment on one element of this interview,

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Speaker 1: I think would be the time that she called all

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Speaker 1: parents lazy as fun her kids to school to learn.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because it's like, okay, Billie Eilish, if you

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Speaker 1: to not do anything else because you're just homeschooling them.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to homeschool my children. I don't have

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Speaker 1: enough of the knowledge. No, sounds like a nightmare. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: whenever she talks, it's like she's having a conversation with herself. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because no one will ask a requestion no, and no

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Speaker 1: apparently her mom's there because she keeps referring to her mum,

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Speaker 1: her mum's not giving her a shit. So she's just

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Speaker 1: lit up on a stool talking knowing her onto the

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Speaker 1: topic of sleep. It's not usually wait interviews, Claire. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to be clear, they're in no question.

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Speaker 1: The thing about she talks like having conversation with herself

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Speaker 1: is the most accurate description of a press tour I've

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Speaker 1: say the weirdest shit you can possibly think up and

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Speaker 1: then Billie Eilish is like, pooping is underrated. That's a quote. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why does it happen specifically with music like musicians, it's

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Speaker 1: like no one knows what to ask. No, that's nothing

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Speaker 1: like I've interviewed musicians. Yeah, this is the thing. If

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Speaker 1: they have a story, yes, but most of the time

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Speaker 1: they just wrote an album. Yeah, they wrote music and

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Speaker 1: then they sit they didn't or they didn't They just sing,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, how does it feel to sing? Like

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Speaker 1: there's no questions Anyway, she did say pooping is underrated,

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Speaker 1: and she said that they hold on day hold on.

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Speaker 1: I agree, Well, like she's quite I think the wisdom

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Speaker 1: is using. There was one day where she pooped eight

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Speaker 1: her life. Okay, you know he can run. And she said,

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Speaker 1: I was pooping dead at and it was good poops.

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Speaker 3: One billion percent underrated. Pooping is my favorite part of

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Speaker 3: the day. There was one day I pooped eight times.

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Speaker 3: That was the best day of my life. And they

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Speaker 3: were all solid good poops too, like no, like bullshit poops.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't like I'm done.

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Speaker 1: And she said, if you don't enjoy pooping. And this

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Speaker 1: is when she gets a ted talk. She gets a

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Speaker 1: because you're eating shit, Oh cat, I'm not the one

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Speaker 1: pooping eight times in a day, am I? You had

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Speaker 1: gastro all right? You know you can relate to the

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Speaker 1: many bitches, and then we all just move on. The

416
00:23:13,429 --> 00:23:15,989
Speaker 1: problem is that Ferrari Shepherd saw it and was like, oh,

417
00:23:16,389 --> 00:23:20,109
Speaker 1: use the word colonial. Now. What Eilish is talking about

418
00:23:20,229 --> 00:23:23,389
Speaker 1: is a real phenomenon. There's all this analysis on rappers

419
00:23:23,749 --> 00:23:26,909
Speaker 1: like one named Meek Mill and another named Little Dirk.

420
00:23:27,949 --> 00:23:30,269
Speaker 1: I've never heard of these people, but they are literal

421
00:23:30,389 --> 00:23:33,269
Speaker 1: millionaires and they rap about guns and violence and a

422
00:23:33,309 --> 00:23:36,229
Speaker 1: lifestyle that like all this academic analysis has been like,

423
00:23:36,309 --> 00:23:38,629
Speaker 1: this could not be further from their reality. And I'm

424
00:23:38,629 --> 00:23:39,869
Speaker 1: not sure if it's those two, but a lot of

425
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:42,389
Speaker 1: them it's like they've never lived in this area. They're

426
00:23:42,389 --> 00:23:45,629
Speaker 1: profiting off a lifestyle that they've never lived. It's fine.

427
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:48,429
Speaker 1: I don't have a massive problem with it. But Vogue

428
00:23:48,589 --> 00:23:52,069
Speaker 1: asked Billy to speak for forty five minutes without drawing breath.

429
00:23:52,069 --> 00:23:54,429
Speaker 1: We know what happens when that. Yeah, at last time,

430
00:23:54,669 --> 00:23:57,349
Speaker 1: sleep walking screopy. It got to how many times she

431
00:23:57,389 --> 00:24:01,949
Speaker 1: pood in a day, made that we didn't need that. Yeah,

432
00:24:02,109 --> 00:24:05,469
Speaker 1: she's gonna say, don't be singing about having a gun

433
00:24:05,509 --> 00:24:07,269
Speaker 1: when you don't even have a gun. Yeah, that's what

434
00:24:07,309 --> 00:24:09,589
Speaker 1: she's gonna the hell she's going to die, she's trying

435
00:24:09,589 --> 00:24:12,829
Speaker 1: to find He'll, yeah, yep. Stop asking an eighteen year

436
00:24:12,869 --> 00:24:17,189
Speaker 1: old questions on literally anything if you don't want them

437
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:22,069
Speaker 1: to say dumb. She Okay, she's inevitable. It's a game.

438
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:25,789
Speaker 1: It's always going to go the same way. A racist slur.

439
00:24:26,309 --> 00:24:29,429
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Eilish is nineteen, a video went

440
00:24:29,549 --> 00:24:32,909
Speaker 1: viral on TikTok. You know you're young when your first

441
00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:36,669
Speaker 1: cancelations happen on TikTok es of her mouthing the words

442
00:24:36,669 --> 00:24:39,549
Speaker 1: to a song that included a derogatory and racist term

443
00:24:39,629 --> 00:24:42,709
Speaker 1: used to describe members of the Asian community. To be clear,

444
00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:45,109
Speaker 1: this was an old video. She would have been about

445
00:24:45,109 --> 00:24:48,629
Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen when it was filmed. Then another video

446
00:24:48,709 --> 00:24:51,389
Speaker 1: surfaced where she was speaking gibberish and some claim she

447
00:24:51,429 --> 00:24:55,109
Speaker 1: was imitating an Asian accent. Eilish as a general rule,

448
00:24:55,309 --> 00:24:58,269
Speaker 1: doesn't address controversy. She didn't come back for a lot

449
00:24:58,269 --> 00:25:01,829
Speaker 1: of this stuff about body shaming. She's busy, for example,

450
00:25:01,869 --> 00:25:04,669
Speaker 1: getting her new World records for the longest time spent

451
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:08,789
Speaker 1: in a snow globe. That's a real record. Wait, but

452
00:25:08,949 --> 00:25:14,029
Speaker 1: she didn't break that. Okay, somebody, somebody spent the longest

453
00:25:14,029 --> 00:25:15,949
Speaker 1: time in a snow globe. Yeah, but I don't know

454
00:25:16,029 --> 00:25:18,389
Speaker 1: it's like a human size snow because I'm impressed if

455
00:25:18,429 --> 00:25:22,309
Speaker 1: it's like a little one. Yeah yeah. Or see. This

456
00:25:22,389 --> 00:25:25,629
Speaker 1: is the thing that's always annoyed me about Guinness World Records, though,

457
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:30,069
Speaker 1: is okay, fastest person is one, and then it's the

458
00:25:30,109 --> 00:25:33,469
Speaker 1: weirdest things. I was like person to lay upside down

459
00:25:33,509 --> 00:25:35,789
Speaker 1: in the podcast studio for the longest Well, I can

460
00:25:35,829 --> 00:25:37,789
Speaker 1: do that because that's weird and no one else wants

461
00:25:37,829 --> 00:25:39,549
Speaker 1: to do it. But you haven't done it, have you?

462
00:25:39,589 --> 00:25:40,229
Speaker 5: No? No?

463
00:25:40,349 --> 00:25:43,229
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's one that I read about the longest duration

464
00:25:43,389 --> 00:25:46,429
Speaker 1: of balancing on one foot in heels. Guess how long

465
00:25:46,469 --> 00:25:50,389
Speaker 1: that is? Three hours? Okay, it's one hour and three minutes.

466
00:25:50,389 --> 00:25:52,109
Speaker 1: Oh see, I could do it. You can do that.

467
00:25:52,229 --> 00:25:54,029
Speaker 1: I just don't want to. Yeah, okay, we should do it.

468
00:25:54,069 --> 00:25:55,549
Speaker 1: I think that should be a thing of like the

469
00:25:55,589 --> 00:26:00,949
Speaker 1: first half is fastest person in the water, fastest person

470
00:26:01,309 --> 00:26:05,549
Speaker 1: in the land. Okay, yes, absolutely, and then there's just

471
00:26:06,069 --> 00:26:08,909
Speaker 1: could do, didn't want to and it is and it's

472
00:26:08,949 --> 00:26:13,989
Speaker 1: like on a lazy a. Yeah. Longest nails. Yeah, I'm like, sweet,

473
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:14,989
Speaker 1: you'd never cut your nails.

474
00:26:15,069 --> 00:26:15,429
Speaker 5: Yeah.

475
00:26:15,549 --> 00:26:17,709
Speaker 1: I'm not paying that to the same extent as the

476
00:26:17,749 --> 00:26:20,949
Speaker 1: fastest person. Yeah. I don't know what her world records

477
00:26:20,949 --> 00:26:25,949
Speaker 1: are anyway. She did address this controversy. She said, I

478
00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:28,109
Speaker 1: mouthed a word from a song that at the time

479
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:30,869
Speaker 1: I didn't know was a derogatory term. I am appalled

480
00:26:30,909 --> 00:26:33,309
Speaker 1: and embarrassed and won a bath that I ever mouthed

481
00:26:33,349 --> 00:26:36,149
Speaker 1: along to that word. Regardless of my ignorance and age

482
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:38,389
Speaker 1: at the time. Nothing excuses the fact that it was

483
00:26:38,469 --> 00:26:41,629
Speaker 1: hurtful and for that I am sorry. She also denied

484
00:26:41,789 --> 00:26:44,389
Speaker 1: the mocking an Asian accent. She said, no, I just

485
00:26:44,429 --> 00:26:49,469
Speaker 1: speak gibberish, and I have no issue believing that she

486
00:26:49,629 --> 00:26:54,469
Speaker 1: just actually assessing fast behavior m checks out. The person

487
00:26:54,509 --> 00:26:56,829
Speaker 1: who released the video said she just wanted Eilish to

488
00:26:56,869 --> 00:27:00,749
Speaker 1: address the recordings, and it's like, in that case, maybe

489
00:27:00,789 --> 00:27:03,989
Speaker 1: send them to her privately and she could address you. Well,

490
00:27:04,229 --> 00:27:07,589
Speaker 1: she'd say. She didn't reply. I don't think she tried.

491
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:11,589
Speaker 1: As an aside, if you actually care about acism, maybe

492
00:27:11,789 --> 00:27:16,189
Speaker 1: don't broadcast a video to millions of people so that

493
00:27:16,349 --> 00:27:20,629
Speaker 1: they can see themselves being mocked. I don't see how

494
00:27:20,669 --> 00:27:25,509
Speaker 1: what you did was helpful because she's fourteen, she's done

495
00:27:25,589 --> 00:27:31,829
Speaker 1: something stupid, which she regrets and which otherwise exists only

496
00:27:31,869 --> 00:27:33,709
Speaker 1: in the depths of the internet for no one to

497
00:27:33,749 --> 00:27:36,829
Speaker 1: see ever again, right, it's not like it's circulating unless

498
00:27:36,909 --> 00:27:39,469
Speaker 1: you're circulating it to make a point. Okay, you just

499
00:27:39,469 --> 00:27:41,909
Speaker 1: want to start shit on TikTok. Next point, who can

500
00:27:41,949 --> 00:27:45,429
Speaker 1: blame her queer baiting. It's twenty twenty one and Billie

501
00:27:45,429 --> 00:27:48,509
Speaker 1: Eilish posts a bunch of photos and videos from her

502
00:27:48,589 --> 00:27:53,789
Speaker 1: Lost Cause music video. The caption read I love Girls.

503
00:27:54,589 --> 00:27:56,909
Speaker 1: Some saw the post as Eilish coming out as a

504
00:27:56,949 --> 00:28:00,949
Speaker 1: member of the LGBTQ plus community, but others saw her

505
00:28:00,989 --> 00:28:04,509
Speaker 1: as being intentionally provocative to promote her new album. The

506
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:07,349
Speaker 1: comments on Instagram read Bestie, I don't know if you're

507
00:28:07,389 --> 00:28:09,389
Speaker 1: queer baiting or not, but I'm really hoping you aren't

508
00:28:09,389 --> 00:28:14,149
Speaker 1: because it's rude. Oh and was the word besting necessary? Yeah? Yeah,

509
00:28:14,189 --> 00:28:17,069
Speaker 1: that makes it a bit condescending the cement. Another posted

510
00:28:17,109 --> 00:28:20,669
Speaker 1: on Twitter, queer baiting is bad enough, but during Pride Month,

511
00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:24,069
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but no, were you not sorry? This is

512
00:28:24,109 --> 00:28:28,389
Speaker 1: how they speak, Claire, Yeah, just troll, Yeah, just say

513
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:30,909
Speaker 1: what you mean, like the ugly men say what you mean?

514
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:34,469
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, drop that. I'm sorry, drop the bestie And

515
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:36,269
Speaker 1: I guess at this point they don't really even have

516
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:40,669
Speaker 1: context on whether she is being authentic. Interesting point. Interesting point,

517
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:44,789
Speaker 1: So queer baiting the definition is essentially attracting an LGBT

518
00:28:44,909 --> 00:28:48,109
Speaker 1: audience by hinting at same sex relationships that are never

519
00:28:48,189 --> 00:28:51,269
Speaker 1: actually consummated. So Harry Styles has been accused of this

520
00:28:51,349 --> 00:28:54,269
Speaker 1: as well. So I guess what we would need in

521
00:28:54,349 --> 00:28:57,269
Speaker 1: this context is Billy to upload a video of her

522
00:28:57,349 --> 00:29:00,669
Speaker 1: having sex with a woman, okay, to make sure while

523
00:29:00,789 --> 00:29:05,589
Speaker 1: yelling I am a lesbian or I am bisexual? Maybe

524
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:08,349
Speaker 1: also having it printed on a card of Today's day

525
00:29:08,309 --> 00:29:11,149
Speaker 1: yea yeah yeah. And I guess it's like we would

526
00:29:11,149 --> 00:29:13,069
Speaker 1: then need to know how many people she slept with

527
00:29:13,469 --> 00:29:17,629
Speaker 1: in order to honor scale judge how gay yea yeah, yeah,

528
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:20,709
Speaker 1: that's all for authenticity purposes. The Internet needs her to

529
00:29:20,709 --> 00:29:24,429
Speaker 1: be authentic. Another person watched the film clip and commented,

530
00:29:24,669 --> 00:29:27,029
Speaker 1: is Billie Eilish by or did I just watch four

531
00:29:27,069 --> 00:29:30,229
Speaker 1: minutes of queer baiting done by a straight person? Everyone

532
00:29:30,309 --> 00:29:33,029
Speaker 1: got very mad, and Billy posted a picture and was like,

533
00:29:33,109 --> 00:29:35,869
Speaker 1: I am tired. And she was not having it, but

534
00:29:35,869 --> 00:29:39,589
Speaker 1: she didn't say anything about the queer baiting accusations. After all,

535
00:29:39,589 --> 00:29:41,709
Speaker 1: the brew haha. We haven't used that word enough on

536
00:29:41,709 --> 00:29:43,989
Speaker 1: this podcast. Is a brew haha. Sometimes I think it's

537
00:29:43,989 --> 00:29:45,909
Speaker 1: hoho ha ha. No, it's a different word. It's a

538
00:29:45,949 --> 00:29:48,749
Speaker 1: brew haha, which is just like the drama brew haha.

539
00:29:48,829 --> 00:29:52,029
Speaker 1: Is a brew haha. Okay, after all of the brew haha,

540
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:57,349
Speaker 1: Billie Eilish did come out in twenty twenty three, Billy mean,

541
00:29:57,629 --> 00:29:59,029
Speaker 1: did you mean to come out?

542
00:29:59,069 --> 00:30:02,429
Speaker 6: In the story.

543
00:30:02,669 --> 00:30:06,709
Speaker 5: No, I didn't, but I kind of thought, wasn't it obvious,

544
00:30:06,749 --> 00:30:09,589
Speaker 5: Like it's kind of been. I just I didn't realize

545
00:30:09,629 --> 00:30:10,309
Speaker 5: people did it.

546
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:11,949
Speaker 1: No, so we need to get to a point where

547
00:30:11,949 --> 00:30:12,789
Speaker 1: you don't even have to come out.

548
00:30:12,949 --> 00:30:15,749
Speaker 5: So I just don't really believe in it. I'm just like,

549
00:30:15,829 --> 00:30:18,869
Speaker 5: why can't we just exist? I've been doing this for

550
00:30:18,909 --> 00:30:20,789
Speaker 5: a long time and I just didn't talk about it.

551
00:30:20,869 --> 00:30:22,869
Speaker 1: It's the same. I literally was like to my mom

552
00:30:22,909 --> 00:30:24,669
Speaker 1: and dating women now, but I was like, I was like,

553
00:30:24,709 --> 00:30:25,589
Speaker 1: I saw the articles.

554
00:30:25,629 --> 00:30:28,029
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, I guess, I guess I came

555
00:30:28,069 --> 00:30:28,629
Speaker 5: out today.

556
00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:29,629
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I guess.

557
00:30:29,629 --> 00:30:33,349
Speaker 5: Okay, cool, But it's exciting to me because you know,

558
00:30:33,429 --> 00:30:35,549
Speaker 5: I guess people didn't know, so it's cool that they know.

559
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:37,829
Speaker 5: But ooh, I'm nervous talking about I'm.

560
00:30:37,589 --> 00:30:40,029
Speaker 1: Not and again you're safe. Okay cool? Yeah, but no,

561
00:30:40,109 --> 00:30:43,469
Speaker 1: it's I am for the girls. She likes men and women, yep.

562
00:30:43,589 --> 00:30:45,189
Speaker 1: But she didn't really want to talk about it and

563
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:48,349
Speaker 1: has been working it all out herself, and luckily she

564
00:30:48,469 --> 00:30:51,029
Speaker 1: had that commenter who called her bestie to help her

565
00:30:51,069 --> 00:30:53,549
Speaker 1: process her sexual Yeah, and everybody really let her come

566
00:30:53,549 --> 00:30:55,469
Speaker 1: to that in private. I actually went and checked, and

567
00:30:55,509 --> 00:30:57,909
Speaker 1: all of these people came back and said, hey, really,

568
00:30:57,949 --> 00:31:01,149
Speaker 1: sorry for the way we talked. Did you have queer baity?

569
00:31:01,229 --> 00:31:03,549
Speaker 1: That's what people on the internet always do when they're wrong.

570
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:07,429
Speaker 1: They do come back and really own up to their mistake. Yeah,

571
00:31:07,629 --> 00:31:10,389
Speaker 1: it's not like somebody in their late teens slush early

572
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:12,629
Speaker 1: twenties might still be figuring stuff out. What we need

573
00:31:12,669 --> 00:31:15,709
Speaker 1: them to be is a complete, tied in a bow

574
00:31:16,349 --> 00:31:30,829
Speaker 1: human being, a weird, gross and wrong Halloween costume. Claire,

575
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:33,989
Speaker 1: find me a single celebrity who has not been canceled

576
00:31:34,229 --> 00:31:37,909
Speaker 1: for a Halloween costume. Everyone needs stop dressing up for Halloween. Look,

577
00:31:37,989 --> 00:31:40,589
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a while because celebrity is

578
00:31:40,629 --> 00:31:44,629
Speaker 1: for too long. Halloween's lost it. It's not even about

579
00:31:45,069 --> 00:31:48,149
Speaker 1: being scary anymore. So many of them just dress up

580
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:50,029
Speaker 1: to be hot, and it's like all of this is

581
00:31:50,069 --> 00:31:53,109
Speaker 1: going to date terribly and in five years you're all

582
00:31:53,149 --> 00:31:54,949
Speaker 1: going to be canceled for a Halloween costume.

583
00:31:54,949 --> 00:31:55,269
Speaker 2: You will.

584
00:31:57,469 --> 00:32:00,429
Speaker 4: Why are you dressed so scary Halloween?

585
00:32:00,949 --> 00:32:05,189
Speaker 1: Look, in terms of who hasn't been canceled, perhaps George

586
00:32:05,229 --> 00:32:09,869
Speaker 1: Clooney's twins. Yeah no, what they're seven, so not yet

587
00:32:10,189 --> 00:32:12,669
Speaker 1: I don't know what they got soon, probably bluey yeah,

588
00:32:12,749 --> 00:32:16,309
Speaker 1: yeah and bluey. Oh. It's a preparation of some kind,

589
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:18,149
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised if they get canceled too.

590
00:32:18,629 --> 00:32:21,229
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty two and she attends a party with

591
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:24,349
Speaker 1: her then boyfriend Jesse Rutherford, who is the front man

592
00:32:24,469 --> 00:32:26,029
Speaker 1: of something called the Neighborhood.

593
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:26,869
Speaker 5: Ah.

594
00:32:27,189 --> 00:32:29,989
Speaker 1: Yes, never heard of them anyway. The context is that

595
00:32:30,029 --> 00:32:32,949
Speaker 1: he was eleven years older than Eilish. She's twenty, he's

596
00:32:32,949 --> 00:32:35,469
Speaker 1: thirty one. So they go to this Halloween party and

597
00:32:35,589 --> 00:32:39,469
Speaker 1: Eilish hard launches their relationship on Instagram with a sense

598
00:32:39,549 --> 00:32:42,829
Speaker 1: deleted photo. Claire, please describe the photo and what you

599
00:32:42,869 --> 00:32:46,189
Speaker 1: think that these two lovely people dressed up as all Right,

600
00:32:46,309 --> 00:32:52,669
Speaker 1: on the left, we have Billie Eilish dressed as gosh,

601
00:32:52,669 --> 00:32:56,709
Speaker 1: it's almost like Shirley Temple esque Little bo Peep maybe.

602
00:32:56,909 --> 00:32:59,789
Speaker 1: And what's he? Okay, I'll tell you who. He looks like.

603
00:33:00,349 --> 00:33:03,389
Speaker 1: He looks like the grandfather from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

604
00:33:04,229 --> 00:33:06,589
Speaker 1: I think I may be wrong about both of them. Okay,

605
00:33:06,589 --> 00:33:08,669
Speaker 1: give me the thing. But she's got a hat like

606
00:33:09,109 --> 00:33:12,509
Speaker 1: Little bo Peep bonnet. Yeah, he's got a bonnet on. Yeah,

607
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:14,549
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is Billy Eilish has gone as

608
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:16,709
Speaker 1: a baby and he has gone as an old man.

609
00:33:17,189 --> 00:33:21,509
Speaker 1: That's fucking hilarious. I think it's hilarious. That's funny. I

610
00:33:21,549 --> 00:33:25,749
Speaker 1: think it's hilarious too. She has blonderinglets, silly hat and

611
00:33:26,469 --> 00:33:30,389
Speaker 1: looks on cannily like your baby. Yes, and I don't

612
00:33:30,429 --> 00:33:32,669
Speaker 1: know if you want me to say this, but we

613
00:33:32,709 --> 00:33:34,389
Speaker 1: went to a dress up party and didn't we make

614
00:33:34,469 --> 00:33:37,989
Speaker 1: your husband dress up as Claire for his bucks a baby?

615
00:33:37,989 --> 00:33:39,789
Speaker 1: They gave him a bottle yeah yeah, yeah yeah and

616
00:33:40,189 --> 00:33:42,589
Speaker 1: unhappy yeah yeah, and he loved it. I thought it

617
00:33:42,629 --> 00:33:45,629
Speaker 1: was really really funny he had what else did he have?

618
00:33:45,789 --> 00:33:47,469
Speaker 1: I think he might have had a bonnet, which is

619
00:33:47,469 --> 00:33:49,629
Speaker 1: funny because maybe's to web on it. No, but it's

620
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:52,669
Speaker 1: just quite baby. Yeah, so much. It's funny in an

621
00:33:52,669 --> 00:33:57,669
Speaker 1: age gap relationship. Do accentuate the gage because that's what

622
00:33:57,829 --> 00:34:00,909
Speaker 1: humor's about. Yes, but the Internet did not like it

623
00:34:01,229 --> 00:34:05,149
Speaker 1: because on the Internet everything is firstly serious, secondly harmful.

624
00:34:05,589 --> 00:34:09,749
Speaker 1: Some comments read Billie Eilish and Jesse Rutherford's matching Halloween

625
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:13,109
Speaker 1: costs gyms is incredibly sick and twisted, especially with their

626
00:34:13,149 --> 00:34:16,389
Speaker 1: age difference and power imbalance. One fan wrote, it's not

627
00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:18,829
Speaker 1: funny or chic. It's not poking fun, It's disturbing and

628
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:20,829
Speaker 1: the adults in her life are letting her down once again.

629
00:34:20,949 --> 00:34:23,069
Speaker 1: I don't think either of them thought it was chic.

630
00:34:25,509 --> 00:34:30,869
Speaker 1: It's not chic. I'm Halloween baby and a grandpa. You

631
00:34:30,909 --> 00:34:36,149
Speaker 1: know it's not chic Halloween disgusting. That Billie Eilish costume

632
00:34:36,229 --> 00:34:38,589
Speaker 1: is extremely disturbing and I absolutely hate it every time

633
00:34:38,669 --> 00:34:41,749
Speaker 1: it crosses my timeline. You, sir, need to get off

634
00:34:41,789 --> 00:34:44,269
Speaker 1: the internet. Why have you seen this photo more than

635
00:34:44,709 --> 00:34:48,469
Speaker 1: one I've never seen that photo before. Billy is grown

636
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:52,109
Speaker 1: enough to know how weird and creepy this is. I

637
00:34:52,229 --> 00:34:55,429
Speaker 1: think I's agreed Billy Eilish and Jesse Brutherford think they

638
00:34:55,469 --> 00:35:00,189
Speaker 1: are edgy with their Halloween costumes. But it's so embarrassing. Ah,

639
00:35:01,069 --> 00:35:04,109
Speaker 1: people love that. I see the humor. I think it's

640
00:35:04,149 --> 00:35:05,909
Speaker 1: funny because you're all going to get upset because there's

641
00:35:05,909 --> 00:35:07,949
Speaker 1: an age gap relationship, and what she's done is she's

642
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:15,869
Speaker 1: just as a baby. It is time for charges and sentences, Claire.

643
00:35:15,909 --> 00:35:19,349
Speaker 1: I'm going to go first, you know how. In a

644
00:35:19,389 --> 00:35:23,629
Speaker 1: detective novel, Crime novel, mystery novel. They say that the answer,

645
00:35:24,029 --> 00:35:26,909
Speaker 1: the key to unraveling the mystery exists on the first page. Yeah,

646
00:35:26,949 --> 00:35:28,989
Speaker 1: it was there all a long. It was there all long. Yeah.

647
00:35:29,229 --> 00:35:31,069
Speaker 1: Or you know, you watch crime show and they say

648
00:35:31,229 --> 00:35:33,829
Speaker 1: first scene, perpetrator was in the first scene. Yeah, that's

649
00:35:33,869 --> 00:35:40,229
Speaker 1: the little little rule. Her crime was there from the outset, right,

650
00:35:40,429 --> 00:35:43,949
Speaker 1: it was there straight away in my introduction. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

651
00:35:44,029 --> 00:35:47,869
Speaker 1: Her crime is that she was born in two thousand

652
00:35:47,909 --> 00:35:53,589
Speaker 1: and one. That's what Which was too soon ago? A hundred? Yeah,

653
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:56,789
Speaker 1: she is simply too soon ago and too long ago.

654
00:35:56,949 --> 00:36:02,149
Speaker 1: Because too soon ago because she is a young person

655
00:36:02,189 --> 00:36:05,669
Speaker 1: in the public eye. But it's long enough that she

656
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:09,149
Speaker 1: is verbal. Yes, yes, if she was a toddler, she

657
00:36:09,189 --> 00:36:12,989
Speaker 1: wouldn't be getting all trouble. She is simply too young

658
00:36:13,229 --> 00:36:17,109
Speaker 1: to be offering things such as reflections, opinions, and or comments.

659
00:36:17,949 --> 00:36:22,429
Speaker 1: And her fans are also born after the year two thousand. Again,

660
00:36:22,629 --> 00:36:24,629
Speaker 1: that makes them two and a half years old. They

661
00:36:24,669 --> 00:36:28,309
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the internet with their bance no banned,

662
00:36:28,869 --> 00:36:31,429
Speaker 1: so of course they don't have fully formed thoughts and

663
00:36:31,509 --> 00:36:34,549
Speaker 1: accuse her of things that don't make sense. All of

664
00:36:34,589 --> 00:36:38,469
Speaker 1: you need to still be having naps. Yeah, you haven't

665
00:36:38,469 --> 00:36:40,109
Speaker 1: had your nap, and now you're shitty and you're on

666
00:36:40,109 --> 00:36:42,389
Speaker 1: the internet accusing people of queer baiting, and you need

667
00:36:42,429 --> 00:36:45,469
Speaker 1: your morning tea and your afternoon tea. Yes, exactly right,

668
00:36:45,509 --> 00:36:48,869
Speaker 1: and you've need to be in bed before eight. My sentence,

669
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:56,029
Speaker 1: I sentence her to getting one year older every twelve months. No,

670
00:36:56,269 --> 00:36:59,749
Speaker 1: so after this, I think she should be twenty two,

671
00:36:59,829 --> 00:37:03,309
Speaker 1: then twenty two, then twenty three and so on, and

672
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:06,469
Speaker 1: then maybe when she's fifty eight she can do another

673
00:37:06,669 --> 00:37:11,309
Speaker 1: interview where she's asked to reflect on poop and if

674
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:15,549
Speaker 1: there's anything to add, would you say how many times?

675
00:37:15,629 --> 00:37:23,509
Speaker 1: How many times? And she'll say, upon reflection, I was

676
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:28,709
Speaker 1: a doctor. I thought it was a good day. It

677
00:37:28,789 --> 00:37:32,429
Speaker 1: wasn't a day. I've had better days. I've had better days.

678
00:37:32,869 --> 00:37:36,069
Speaker 1: I'd be interested to know if her reflections have changed.

679
00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:39,589
Speaker 1: How About on sleepwalking. I think she'd find by it.

680
00:37:39,669 --> 00:37:42,709
Speaker 1: I think she'd find herself less judgmental after more years

681
00:37:42,709 --> 00:37:45,469
Speaker 1: of life experience. She'd say, you know what, did I

682
00:37:45,549 --> 00:37:50,429
Speaker 1: think that parents who sent their kids to school are selfish? Yeah?

683
00:37:50,429 --> 00:37:53,749
Speaker 1: I did, And then I grew up. It's all black

684
00:37:53,749 --> 00:37:56,909
Speaker 1: and white when you're young. And then you know, you go,

685
00:37:57,429 --> 00:38:04,229
Speaker 1: maybe sleepwalking is a victimless crime. Maybe sleepwalking is just

686
00:38:04,269 --> 00:38:07,829
Speaker 1: something some struggle with Claire. You know how in court

687
00:38:07,949 --> 00:38:09,789
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to just bring up new evidence during

688
00:38:09,869 --> 00:38:14,629
Speaker 1: charge and sentences. I just remembered something. Yes, Vanity Fair.

689
00:38:14,789 --> 00:38:16,869
Speaker 1: She's worked with Vanity Fair for years and years, right,

690
00:38:17,189 --> 00:38:20,389
Speaker 1: and she does like this interview with them every three year. Yeah,

691
00:38:20,589 --> 00:38:22,589
Speaker 1: this part of it, and it's been I always wonder

692
00:38:22,749 --> 00:38:25,149
Speaker 1: like when she did the first one, you don't know

693
00:38:25,229 --> 00:38:28,069
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Billie Eilish, you know, like you don't

694
00:38:28,109 --> 00:38:30,229
Speaker 1: know you're going to be doing it every year. Yeah. Yeah,

695
00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:32,669
Speaker 1: And you know when you've committed to doing something ongoing

696
00:38:33,469 --> 00:38:35,789
Speaker 1: and normally it's the second time you're doing it and

697
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:37,589
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I regret that. Yeah, it's everyone who

698
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:39,549
Speaker 1: starts podcast. Yeah, they're just like, I didn't mean this

699
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:42,029
Speaker 1: to be always. I got excited for the first yeah. Yeah, yeah,

700
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:44,389
Speaker 1: I had energy in momentum, and now I don't want

701
00:38:44,389 --> 00:38:47,189
Speaker 1: to make it look Yeah. Anyway, she came to that

702
00:38:47,229 --> 00:38:49,829
Speaker 1: point from now on. In twenty twenty three, she was like,

703
00:38:49,909 --> 00:38:51,269
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it every year. I'm gonna do

704
00:38:51,309 --> 00:38:54,389
Speaker 1: it every five years. And the reason I love this

705
00:38:54,709 --> 00:38:57,349
Speaker 1: is because it's a very lazy girl move. She's a

706
00:38:57,429 --> 00:38:59,869
Speaker 1: lazy girl. It's a very like she's leaning into her

707
00:38:59,949 --> 00:39:02,549
Speaker 1: boundary era on my fiel, Oh my god. And if

708
00:39:02,629 --> 00:39:04,589
Speaker 1: she do a Billie Eilish and it's like, we're not

709
00:39:04,589 --> 00:39:06,029
Speaker 1: going to do this weekly, We're gonna do it every

710
00:39:06,469 --> 00:39:09,189
Speaker 1: five weeks. So true, And I think it's part of

711
00:39:09,189 --> 00:39:11,869
Speaker 1: the charge. It's like, I think young people have to

712
00:39:11,949 --> 00:39:14,709
Speaker 1: learn that, like when you commit to something, you have

713
00:39:14,709 --> 00:39:17,389
Speaker 1: to follow through. Okay, So you love her for that,

714
00:39:17,469 --> 00:39:19,469
Speaker 1: but you also hate her for that. Yeah, Like I

715
00:39:19,549 --> 00:39:22,669
Speaker 1: just feel like she doesn't know the value of hard work. Okay, yeah, No,

716
00:39:22,709 --> 00:39:25,509
Speaker 1: Billy Eilish, define wads a lesson in hard work from you?

717
00:39:27,149 --> 00:39:30,349
Speaker 1: All right, my church? Yes, I articulated it slightly differently.

718
00:39:30,509 --> 00:39:34,229
Speaker 1: Being young, yeah right, okay, really young. Yeah, And what

719
00:39:34,269 --> 00:39:38,869
Speaker 1: we're seeing here is the chaos of you being young.

720
00:39:39,149 --> 00:39:41,429
Speaker 1: I've spent some time with some young people and I

721
00:39:41,469 --> 00:39:44,229
Speaker 1: sit at a table and I just go, you are

722
00:39:44,269 --> 00:39:49,789
Speaker 1: Ashley mad Is you any one year old? Yeah? And

723
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:54,189
Speaker 1: they're just talking and I'm like, sh and you don't

724
00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,469
Speaker 1: put that on the internet. What are you talking about?

725
00:39:56,589 --> 00:39:56,749
Speaker 2: Yeah?

726
00:39:56,869 --> 00:39:58,989
Speaker 1: Which I'm sure is what people thought about me too. Yeah,

727
00:39:59,189 --> 00:40:02,269
Speaker 1: I'm for people think about it right now? Is yeah yeah,

728
00:40:02,389 --> 00:40:07,589
Speaker 1: anyone older than us says you idiots like yeah, yeah, amen, Yeah,

729
00:40:07,709 --> 00:40:11,749
Speaker 1: maybe we should go to jail. Skibbity toilete skibbity toilet.

730
00:40:12,189 --> 00:40:14,549
Speaker 1: That's what the young people are saying. I don't understand.

731
00:40:14,949 --> 00:40:16,949
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it means, but it's something that

732
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:19,669
Speaker 1: maybe skibbity toilet means going to the toilet eight times

733
00:40:19,709 --> 00:40:23,389
Speaker 1: in a day. Oh my gosh. Maybe it came from Billy. Yeah.

734
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:29,949
Speaker 1: So her crime is being young, correct, and her sentence. Okay.

735
00:40:30,589 --> 00:40:34,069
Speaker 1: The problem with Billy is that the person who writes

736
00:40:34,189 --> 00:40:37,709
Speaker 1: music with her is her brother, right, Finlay Finley Finley

737
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:43,149
Speaker 1: I read it him. Yes, and she's absurdly talented and

738
00:40:43,189 --> 00:40:46,909
Speaker 1: he is absurdly talented, and together they are a force. Yes,

739
00:40:46,949 --> 00:40:49,269
Speaker 1: and they're just doing brilliant things. Yeah. And I think

740
00:40:49,309 --> 00:40:52,549
Speaker 1: because of that people have been like, there's magic there,

741
00:40:53,149 --> 00:40:56,989
Speaker 1: we'll leave it alone. And therefore she doesn't have lots

742
00:40:56,989 --> 00:41:01,069
Speaker 1: of layers of like, hey, Billy say less about sleepwalking.

743
00:41:01,909 --> 00:41:04,389
Speaker 1: Yeah right. I did think in that interview, I went,

744
00:41:04,749 --> 00:41:06,709
Speaker 1: you know how, you're at the playground and you're what

745
00:41:06,869 --> 00:41:08,549
Speaker 1: she kid do something and you see them run up

746
00:41:08,589 --> 00:41:10,509
Speaker 1: to someone and you're like, oh, they're about to take

747
00:41:10,589 --> 00:41:15,109
Speaker 1: that toy off that baby, then wipe their snot in

748
00:41:15,189 --> 00:41:17,949
Speaker 1: that baby's mouth, and then hit them on the head

749
00:41:17,949 --> 00:41:20,349
Speaker 1: with the toy they stole. And you actually interject and

750
00:41:20,429 --> 00:41:23,109
Speaker 1: you go, I'm actually gonna stop this. Where was her person?

751
00:41:23,229 --> 00:41:25,069
Speaker 1: That's her mother was in the room. I know her

752
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:26,789
Speaker 1: mum was in the room when she was answering those things.

753
00:41:26,829 --> 00:41:29,869
Speaker 1: And I was like, when my eighteen year old daughter

754
00:41:30,789 --> 00:41:34,229
Speaker 1: is talking about her poop schedule to pitch for, Yeah,

755
00:41:34,389 --> 00:41:36,989
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go We're just gonna pull out. Yeah, we're

756
00:41:36,989 --> 00:41:39,749
Speaker 1: just gonna pull this interview. We're gonna have a little chat. Okay,

757
00:41:39,949 --> 00:41:43,709
Speaker 1: we talk about poop. You've won an academy. You're gonna

758
00:41:43,749 --> 00:41:46,869
Speaker 1: win an academy, and you can say, okay, come here, billy, Billy, Billy,

759
00:41:46,989 --> 00:41:53,109
Speaker 1: let's poop billy. I'm hearing you need to you go

760
00:41:53,149 --> 00:42:00,389
Speaker 1: to your business, you come back. We don't talk about okay.

761
00:42:00,669 --> 00:42:02,469
Speaker 1: You know how like when you're teaching your kid, it's

762
00:42:02,469 --> 00:42:04,349
Speaker 1: like you need to teach someone what's inside and what's out.

763
00:42:04,429 --> 00:42:06,789
Speaker 1: Yead I feel like they're still in the process she's young, Yeah,

764
00:42:07,029 --> 00:42:11,629
Speaker 1: learning inside, voice outside, Yes, all of that anyway. Yeah,

765
00:42:11,789 --> 00:42:15,949
Speaker 1: if I burbed like my parents, Mum still gets mad

766
00:42:15,989 --> 00:42:18,229
Speaker 1: when you Yeah, when I prap in public and fair enough,

767
00:42:18,229 --> 00:42:19,629
Speaker 1: if I did that in the middle of a film

768
00:42:19,629 --> 00:42:21,949
Speaker 1: and interview, Mum would be so she just think it

769
00:42:21,989 --> 00:42:25,149
Speaker 1: was disrespecting. Yeah, But I think the problem is that

770
00:42:25,189 --> 00:42:30,229
Speaker 1: because Billy is so magical, she is surrounded by yes people, Wow,

771
00:42:31,229 --> 00:42:35,389
Speaker 1: you were like, more about more, brilliant, beautiful, this interview,

772
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:38,989
Speaker 1: nailing it, you slap all of that, Yeah, and it

773
00:42:39,149 --> 00:42:42,269
Speaker 1: keeps getting worse. And so what she needs is she

774
00:42:42,389 --> 00:42:46,389
Speaker 1: needs and no guy. He's just gonna say, look, my

775
00:42:46,469 --> 00:42:48,469
Speaker 1: job is let you go, let you go, let you go.

776
00:42:48,509 --> 00:42:51,869
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rear you back here, all right. So she

777
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:56,029
Speaker 1: needs that guy until she passes the age of fifty

778
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:58,709
Speaker 1: five and then she can say whatever she likes. I

779
00:42:58,829 --> 00:43:00,549
Speaker 1: like it because we know people of the age of

780
00:43:00,549 --> 00:43:05,469
Speaker 1: fifty five are always elegant and thoughtful. Jazz Donald Trump

781
00:43:06,669 --> 00:43:09,509
Speaker 1: Claire before we go Lazy Girls story. Billy Eilish's the

782
00:43:09,509 --> 00:43:12,989
Speaker 1: opposite to laz I think I think so too. She

783
00:43:13,029 --> 00:43:16,109
Speaker 1: sings a lot of things and writes a lot of things.

784
00:43:16,109 --> 00:43:20,309
Speaker 1: With their brother I think that if you put a

785
00:43:20,349 --> 00:43:22,389
Speaker 1: lazy girl on the stand, because that sort of looks

786
00:43:22,389 --> 00:43:23,589
Speaker 1: like they were putting her on the stand. I think

787
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:24,949
Speaker 1: you put a lazy girl on the stand, you get

788
00:43:24,949 --> 00:43:26,989
Speaker 1: her to talk. I reckon, You get forty five seconds

789
00:43:26,989 --> 00:43:28,909
Speaker 1: and then she just stops and sits in the discomfort

790
00:43:29,469 --> 00:43:30,589
Speaker 1: and she's like, what do you want me to do?

791
00:43:30,629 --> 00:43:33,149
Speaker 1: Talk about my bowel movement. It's like, fuck, no, this

792
00:43:33,269 --> 00:43:37,349
Speaker 1: is done, not Billy, I'm tired. Well, Jesse, I've got

793
00:43:37,389 --> 00:43:40,389
Speaker 1: a lazy girl story for you. It's from Tracy without

794
00:43:40,469 --> 00:43:43,949
Speaker 1: an E, which will become important. It's a lazy way

795
00:43:43,949 --> 00:43:46,309
Speaker 1: to spell it. Okay, Yeah, Hi, Claire and Jesse love

796
00:43:46,349 --> 00:43:49,229
Speaker 1: your work. I have a lazy girl story that dates

797
00:43:49,269 --> 00:43:51,909
Speaker 1: back twenty six years. They're our favorite lazy girl story.

798
00:43:51,989 --> 00:43:52,149
Speaker 4: Yes.

799
00:43:52,349 --> 00:43:55,309
Speaker 1: And the thing is, Billie Eilish can't have a story

800
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:57,429
Speaker 1: that goes back twenty six years because she doesn't have

801
00:43:57,469 --> 00:44:00,989
Speaker 1: that many years. When I got my driver's license at sixteen,

802
00:44:01,229 --> 00:44:04,429
Speaker 1: the RTA now service New South Wales, we know we

803
00:44:04,429 --> 00:44:08,549
Speaker 1: were the RTA days. The RTA person wrote my first

804
00:44:08,629 --> 00:44:12,829
Speaker 1: name incorrectly with an E instead of Tracy as per

805
00:44:12,869 --> 00:44:15,589
Speaker 1: my birth certificate. This happened to mum. Yep. I noticed

806
00:44:15,629 --> 00:44:17,869
Speaker 1: at the time, but couldn't be bothered going back in

807
00:44:18,029 --> 00:44:19,869
Speaker 1: just to change one letter. Yeah, and you don't want

808
00:44:19,909 --> 00:44:23,109
Speaker 1: to be rude. No, didn't think it'd be an issue. Well,

809
00:44:23,229 --> 00:44:26,029
Speaker 1: twenty four years later, it turns out it's very hard

810
00:44:26,109 --> 00:44:29,509
Speaker 1: to get a mortgage approved if your license doesn't match

811
00:44:29,549 --> 00:44:32,349
Speaker 1: your birth certificate. That's a job that's sitting on the

812
00:44:32,389 --> 00:44:34,989
Speaker 1: to do list for ten to twenty years. Yeah, this

813
00:44:35,029 --> 00:44:38,909
Speaker 1: is the problem with paperwork, honestly. And it's also I

814
00:44:38,949 --> 00:44:42,549
Speaker 1: didn't change my name after marriage. I guess maybe because

815
00:44:42,589 --> 00:44:46,149
Speaker 1: of like ideological reasons, but also for logistics for the paperwork. Yeah,

816
00:44:46,189 --> 00:44:47,949
Speaker 1: because it's like I'm not going in there. I haven't

817
00:44:47,989 --> 00:44:50,749
Speaker 1: changed my address on my license. Last time I went

818
00:44:50,789 --> 00:44:53,189
Speaker 1: to the RTA service New South Wales, I got a

819
00:44:53,229 --> 00:44:56,709
Speaker 1: fucking parking fine because it was in the city and

820
00:44:56,749 --> 00:44:58,749
Speaker 1: I was like the irony because I was there for

821
00:44:58,789 --> 00:45:00,789
Speaker 1: so long and I didn't pay my parking. I got

822
00:45:00,789 --> 00:45:03,709
Speaker 1: in trouble. I got pulled over by the police and

823
00:45:04,109 --> 00:45:06,189
Speaker 1: I got in trouble because they said is this your

824
00:45:06,229 --> 00:45:08,149
Speaker 1: current address? And for some reason I was honest and

825
00:45:08,149 --> 00:45:10,909
Speaker 1: I said no. They said, oh, was that a problem?

826
00:45:10,989 --> 00:45:12,989
Speaker 1: And they said, it's got to be your current address.

827
00:45:13,309 --> 00:45:18,309
Speaker 1: They find me. I mean, I was also like speaking, whatever,

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Speaker 1: what's happened to Tracy? She said? Did I go into

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Speaker 1: service New South? I was, and get this fixed? I

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Speaker 1: did not. I thought it would be a huge weight

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Speaker 1: in line. Yes it would, it would. That's called foresight.

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Speaker 1: Surely that was another way the frustrated mortgage broker was

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Speaker 1: trying to get all our paperwork. Mortgage brokers all they

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Speaker 1: do is ask, ask, ask. It's always like I need

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Speaker 1: more from you, and I'm like, what am I paying

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Speaker 1: you for it? We pay? Who's pay? Who are you?

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Speaker 1: To get all our paperwork finalized quickly so we could

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Speaker 1: buy our house. So he said that we would try

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Speaker 1: and see if the bank would accept a statutory declaration

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Speaker 1: confirming my name is Tracy. So I just signed the

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Speaker 1: stat deck Where the stat deck come from? Tracy, you

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Speaker 1: left that out and luckily they approved, so you never

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Speaker 1: had to go. And this is the thing. Years later,

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Speaker 1: I finally updated my name on my license. Took about

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Speaker 1: two minutes. A Tracy, my goodness, life admin.

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Speaker 5: Tick.

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Speaker 1: Will I learn from this? Probably not? Thanks Tracy? Without me? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I thought that Tracy was going to say,

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Speaker 1: just changed the spelling. Yeah, I know, went bad. I

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Speaker 1: changed my name based on the films. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go back to your birth stu wikit. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us on this episode of Canceled. The

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Speaker 1: executive producer of Canceled is Kim Bradish, with audio production

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Speaker 1: by Leah Porches. You can also follow us on The

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Speaker 1: Twins Underscore thoughts. We share a bunch of reels behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes all of those such things. And also, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll leaning back into TikTok. If you've been with us,

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Speaker 1: you'll know we go through periods of hyperfixation and then

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Speaker 1: we don't do anything, and then every now and then

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Speaker 1: we're like, hey, guys, you've got any TikTok ideas for us,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's like, I don't work for you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us. We'll be back next week. Bye bye,