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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges

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Speaker 1: is recorded on Hi. I'm Claire Murphy. This is Muma

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Speaker 1: MIA's daily news podcast. The Quickie. Australia is facing a

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Speaker 1: critical shortage of blood donations right now, with stocks plummeting

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Speaker 1: to their lowest levels since the start of the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: This concerning decline in blood supplies has led to urgent

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Speaker 1: So what would get you into a donor chair? We

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Speaker 1: find out what your blood might end up doing one

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Speaker 1: day and how the whole blood donation thing works. But

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Speaker 1: before we roll up a sleeve, here's the latest from

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Speaker 1: the Quickie newsroom. Thursday, September five. After overwhelming demand for tickets,

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Speaker 1: Oasis have added two extra concert dates to the comeback

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Speaker 1: to a lineup in the UK. The shows will be Oasis'

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Speaker 1: first live gigs in fifteen years. The band splitting in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine when lead guitarist and main songwriter

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Speaker 1: Noel Gallagher said he could no longer work with his

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Speaker 1: brother Liam following a string of public disagreements. They announced

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Speaker 1: fourteen shows, the first to take place in Cardiff in

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Speaker 1: July twenty twenty five, followed by Manchester, where the band

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Speaker 1: formed in nineteen ninety one, then London, Edinburgh and Dublin.

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Speaker 1: They added three more dates in Manchester, London and Edinburgh

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Speaker 1: last week, advising there will now also be two more

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Speaker 1: shows at Wembley Stadium in London, the band saying the

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Speaker 1: ticketing process is exclusively the realm of the promoters and

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Speaker 1: management saying they had no idea the process would include

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Speaker 1: dynamic pricing and a ballot system. Businesses will be encouraged

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Speaker 1: to warn their customers that they're using AI under voluntary

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Speaker 1: guidelines outlined by the federal government. A survey of Australian CEOs,

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Speaker 1: chief technology officers and other company leaders found that a

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Speaker 1: third of businesses are already using AI technology without telling

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Speaker 1: their customers and sometimes even their employees. The federal government

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Speaker 1: hoping to ensure transparency by introducing new voluntary artificial intelligence standards.

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Speaker 1: The government is also discussing men inditry restrictions on high

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Speaker 1: risk AI use, such as facial recognition, which has misidentified criminals,

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Speaker 1: and during recruitment processes where AI has already been exposed

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Speaker 1: for making biased decisions against potential employees, but say those

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Speaker 1: Sick says they know Australians want stronger protections against AI,

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Speaker 1: saying we know it can do great things, but people

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Speaker 1: want to know there are protections in place if things

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Speaker 1: Georgia say they have a suspect in custody after another

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Speaker 1: school shooting incident. At least four people have died and

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Speaker 1: nine are in hospital after shots were fired at Appalachi

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Speaker 1: Barrow County Sheriff Judd Smith declining to provide further detail,

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Speaker 1: but standing outside the school, he told reporters what you

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Speaker 1: see behind us is an evil thing. Authorities say reports

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Speaker 1: the suspect had also been killed and not true, and

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelce football players, Super Bowl winner and boyfriend of

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift has an army of lawyers standing by to

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Speaker 1: it was written by PR company fool Scope, who represent Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: details the plan for Taylor and Travis's breakup, which will

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Speaker 1: Is happening regularly over the years in Hollywood as stars

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Speaker 1: The Pulse on Paris, after earlier breaking the world record

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Speaker 1: Next we find out what amazing things our blood donations do,

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Speaker 1: You can find the link to do that in our

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Speaker 2: I have a quick question for the Quickie team. Heard

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Speaker 2: It's always seems like a really hard mission to do.

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Speaker 2: If you could look into this when they are trying

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Speaker 1: The Australian Red Cross Life Blood Organization, who are responsible

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Speaker 1: As a result, bloodstocks for AO and B blood groups

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Speaker 1: Lifeblood still needs thousands more donors to step up so

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Speaker 1: they can catch up. Red blood cells, which give blood

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Speaker 1: Red cells can be stored for up to forty two days,

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Speaker 1: but the demand is constant, requiring a steady stream of donations. Platelets,

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Speaker 1: undergoing chemotherapy or those with bleeding disorders. Plasma, the liquid

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Speaker 1: It can be frozen and stored up to a year,

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Speaker 3: So if I infuse plasma into my body weekly, what

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Speaker 1: Jemma says she hears about bloodstock shortages regularly and it

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Speaker 1: Hospitals across Australia require around four thousand bags of blood

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Speaker 1: They're also critical in emergency situations like accidents and complicated childbirths,

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Speaker 1: but despite the constant need, only a small percentage of

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Speaker 1: eligible Australians regularly donate blood. The recent shortage was particularly

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Speaker 1: concerning because it affected multiple blood types. OH negative blood,

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Speaker 1: Engagement at Australia Red Cross Lifeblood. Carli we hear about

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Speaker 1: Okay, Carly, take us on a blood donation trip, so

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Speaker 1: Another thing that people can donate, which I actually wasn't

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Speaker 1: So this is for babies who might end up in

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Speaker 1: Carli, what message do you have for those who maybe

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Speaker 1: Also, you get a sweet text message when your blood's

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Speaker 1: The One to the