Speaker 1: I hate asking what people do for work. It's what
Speaker 1: makes your heart happy. AI is such a good tool
Speaker 1: from a disability and even just like an advocacy standpoint,
Speaker 1: because if there's stuff that's missing that you can't have,
Speaker 1: that can fill in some of the gaps for you.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Seize the Ya Podcast. Busy and happy
Speaker 2: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what
Speaker 2: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but
Speaker 2: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than
Speaker 2: one way. So this is a platform to hear and
Speaker 2: explore the stories of those who found lives they adore,
Speaker 2: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day
Speaker 2: will bear all the facets of Seizing your Yea. I'm
Speaker 2: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned
Speaker 2: fu entrepreneur whos wapped the suits and heels to co
Speaker 2: found matcha Maiden and matcha Milk Bar. Sez the Ya
Speaker 2: is a series of conversations on finding a life you
Speaker 2: love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment
Speaker 2: along the way yighborhood. One of my favorite things about
Speaker 2: this show is the incidental opportunity it gives me to
Speaker 2: learn about things I don't really understand from the people
Speaker 2: who find their yay in making it their area of expertise.
Speaker 2: I often refer to my selfish motivations in approaching particular
Speaker 2: guests to pick their brains about things that fascinate me.
Speaker 2: And an episode on AI has been brewing for some time.
Speaker 2: I think many of you will resonate with AI seeping
Speaker 2: more and more into your life, and in my case,
Speaker 2: at least a little quicker than my understanding of it
Speaker 2: has been able to develop. I'm surrounded by content on
Speaker 2: how it can change your life and productivity for the better,
Speaker 2: but also how it'll replace us all by tomorrow. So
Speaker 2: I wanted a guest who not only understands it well,
Speaker 2: but is known for being able to make that information
Speaker 2: digestible to the everyday person. Enter Lauren Dennett, who I
Speaker 2: was lucky to meet through my partnership with HP, who
Speaker 2: has helped me better grasp and therefore harness the power
Speaker 2: of HP's AI technologies in such a big way. Lauren
Speaker 2: is the product expert for HP among many other titles,
Speaker 2: and I think you'll be able to hear within minutes
Speaker 2: even of our chat just how passionate. They are about
Speaker 2: the power of AI and empowering all of us to
Speaker 2: reap its benefits in our day to day lives, from
Speaker 2: busting common misconceptions to naming KEYAI powered tools that can
Speaker 2: change your work or change your personal life. Even we
Speaker 2: are so lucky to have Lauren here demystifying it all weaved,
Speaker 2: of course, around Lauren's own path yay, including as you
Speaker 2: can hear from their pronouns, their non binary identity, their
Speaker 2: experience of inclusion, and their passionate advocacy in the workplace.
Speaker 2: I hope you all enjoy and learn as much from
Speaker 2: this episode as I did. Lauren, Hello, Welcome to CEZA.
Speaker 1: You so so much. It's so good to be here.
Speaker 2: It's so weird. I feel like we know each other
Speaker 2: really well because we've spoken a lot online, but this
Speaker 2: is our first IRL interaction. It's like we're besties.
Speaker 1: I think we are besties. So now I'm questioning our
Speaker 1: relationship at this point.
Speaker 2: I am not. I am comfortable with the beautiful relationship
Speaker 2: that we have, and I'm really excited to have you here.
Speaker 2: We have already gone very rogue before we started recording,
Speaker 2: so yeah, well, we'll distill all the wisdom that exists
Speaker 2: in your brain. Your brain is one, as I mentioned
Speaker 2: in the intro, that I'm very excited to pick for
Speaker 2: so many reasons, but a very big part of CZA
Speaker 2: is the idea that the best pathways are neverlinear. And
Speaker 2: even though now it is so clear within million seconds
Speaker 2: of speaking to you that you are so passionate about
Speaker 2: what you do and that you're in exactly the place
Speaker 2: that you're meant to be in this world, it's never
Speaker 2: a straight line to get there, and there's often so
Speaker 2: many chapters to get there before that. So I want
Speaker 2: to go back to young you sort of the first
Speaker 2: jobs that you had. I think we all think about
Speaker 2: those jobs that we want to have when we grow up,
Speaker 2: and you know, I think one of the things we
Speaker 2: often say is the job you'll have eventually might not
Speaker 2: even exist at the time that you know you're having
Speaker 2: these hopes and dreams, which in your case is definitely
Speaker 2: the case, because AI is very very news. So what
Speaker 2: did you think you'd be when you were younger?
Speaker 1: I was talking to my partner about this last night
Speaker 1: because I was like, how do I summarize this in
Speaker 1: a funny way? So basically, young me had this grand idea.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a creative. I wanted the chance
Speaker 1: to sort of like put things on paper, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be an architect. However, I have afantasia or
Speaker 1: afantasia where I can't picture things.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I recently found out people, you're in a room, right,
Speaker 1: So right now, I'm going to challenge you. Think about
Speaker 1: a room. I want you to picture a ball in
Speaker 1: that room. Okay, what does that ball look like? It
Speaker 1: is a black squishy stress ball.
Speaker 2: Okay, that has this logo on it that's on your microphone.
Speaker 2: Because this is what we've just been speaking about before,
Speaker 2: that we need a stress squishy ball to have something
Speaker 2: to do with our hands. And that's what the ball
Speaker 2: is in the room. Amazing, straight to my head the picture.
Speaker 2: What does the table look like? It is a black
Speaker 2: like matt aluminium leg table and it matches the black
Speaker 2: ball that sitting in the middle of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what I see? Nothing? Abyss
Speaker 1: nothing stop it. So as as you can tell, as
Speaker 1: a young person wanting to be an architect, I have
Speaker 1: a complete disadvantage and I think it's rude. So anyway, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, so you can't. I can't see anything, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know that wasn't normal. So now when I
Speaker 1: talk to people, it's like, you know, when you meet someone,
Speaker 1: you're like, what do you do for work? And obviously
Speaker 1: it's a really weird one because immediately you start judging
Speaker 1: people and what they do. So I hate asking what
Speaker 1: people do for work. It's what makes your heart happy.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's.
Speaker 3: What do you see?
Speaker 1: Do you see this ball?
Speaker 3: Let this ball look like the table look like? E Matually?
Speaker 3: What are we in?
Speaker 1: Is their noise canceling everywhere? Like? Is it bright?
Speaker 3: Is its improved? Bring me to your room?
Speaker 2: I don't have a room, see Lauren, that is so interesting.
Speaker 1: So long story short, baby Lauren could not, unfortunately, be
Speaker 1: an architect because it was.
Speaker 3: Never going to work fair enough.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can't visualize things, unless you were
Speaker 2: designing like a brutalist escape room that was just black,
Speaker 2: in which case you'd be a made I.
Speaker 1: Think I thrive in that, honestly, I think it really
Speaker 1: was so just the aspect of watching people struggle.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: So I've got the creativity and I've got the passion,
Speaker 1: but the problem is I don't have the visualization. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't exist in my head. So I can recall
Speaker 1: things from memory, but I can't make it up on
Speaker 1: the spot. It just doesn't exist. So yeah, past me
Speaker 1: couldn't do that. But as my career kind of grew,
Speaker 1: like I was one of those kids where I grew
Speaker 1: up in the Mornington Peninsula, there wasn't a lot of
Speaker 1: opportunity there, so I didn't really know what options there were,
Speaker 1: and so classic me, I went to TAVE tried to
Speaker 1: figure that out, studied web design and thought, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe this is what I want to do. Terrible at
Speaker 1: that because naturally you can't picture things, so you.
Speaker 3: Can't recall things.
Speaker 1: So even studying going to school, it just wasn't helpful
Speaker 1: for me. So I took a gap year, went to
Speaker 1: JB High Fi, went to you know, started doing retail work,
Speaker 1: selling my soul because I love talking to people, and
Speaker 1: I realized I really wish there was a job where
Speaker 1: I could just talk for a living. And so through
Speaker 1: JB High Fi and through that there was like all
Speaker 1: these opportunities to learn from brands and so so I'm
Speaker 1: not going to name names, but there was a gentleman
Speaker 1: that was this absolute catalyst for how I got to
Speaker 1: my job. The way that he performed, the way that
Speaker 1: he presented, and the way that he talked about product
Speaker 1: and his passion. I was like, I want to be
Speaker 1: that person. I absolutely willed it. So when I was
Speaker 1: twenty one, I'm now thirty three, thirty.
Speaker 2: Four, My god, just skin's amazing, My god, thank you
Speaker 2: so much. I'm in the tangents.
Speaker 3: Oh we already off track, but this is great, just.
Speaker 1: Let it go. But yeah, So twenty one year old
Speaker 1: me got presented to by this person, and so I
Speaker 1: had this thing where I was like, I want to
Speaker 1: be this person. And now I look at it, and
Speaker 1: that person was the key presenter, the product expert for HP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, chill act.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how I willed it, but basically
Speaker 1: my trajectory went from working in retail. I decided I
Speaker 1: wanted to then go and do the natural progression from retailers.
Speaker 1: Either you go do this really weird sales job, you
Speaker 1: go be a car salesperson or a real estate agent,
Speaker 1: or you go into rapping. So I went into wrapping.
Speaker 1: I then started going into my retailers and then getting
Speaker 1: the chance to sort of again build up my confidence
Speaker 1: in talking to people, and I guess, recalling information and
Speaker 1: more importantly just bringing my passion. And so I got
Speaker 1: to do that, and then as that started to grow, randomly,
Speaker 1: this job popped up. This guy he decided to leave
Speaker 1: his job, and I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna give it a go. It's my time to shine, literally,
Speaker 1: and so I had my interview. I had no qualifications.
Speaker 1: I was just really good at shit talking. Excuse my language.
Speaker 1: I was really good at talking, and so naturally I
Speaker 1: got really lucky. I had a four round interview and
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, the guy that hired me took
Speaker 1: a chance, and I'm here four years later.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, talking as part of your job. Yeah,
Speaker 2: product expert for HP eally chills.
Speaker 1: So that's how I got to where I am now,
Speaker 1: and it's what I planned. Never really existed, but it did.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that this was a thing, and then
Speaker 1: once I saw that person, I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to be you in a non creepy way. Of course,
Speaker 1: there I am. I'm doing that job, and even what
Speaker 1: I saw versus what I'm doing now is so different,
Speaker 1: Like I never would have thought that in my role
Speaker 1: I'd be sitting here talking to someone amazing, like yourself
Speaker 1: that also interviews incredible souls like again talking back to
Speaker 1: your True Crime interview badly, like I was like, I
Speaker 1: have imposter syndrome? What am I doing here? How in
Speaker 1: the world am I sitting in the same table as
Speaker 1: all these famous people, like even the bloody Purple Wiggle, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, word, how am I in this room right now? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such an incredible opportunity. So again, thank you for
Speaker 1: having me and liked being able to speak to who
Speaker 1: I am and my current passions in HP Oh.
Speaker 2: It is such an incredible privilege, not only because you
Speaker 2: can tell, as I said immediately, how excited you are
Speaker 2: about what you do. And my passion is talking to
Speaker 2: people about what they're passionate about, because nothing lights a
Speaker 2: person up like them finding their yay and actually doing it,
Speaker 2: but also reminding people that, yeah, it's never straightforward to
Speaker 2: get there. And I think your story is so powerful
Speaker 2: for so many reasons because it's already touched on the
Speaker 2: fact that you can't become something if you haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: And I think visibility my show aims to tell stories
Speaker 2: so that someone listening goes I didn't know that job
Speaker 2: was possible. I want to be that you can't aim
Speaker 2: for something you don't know. Is there exactly sliding doors
Speaker 2: moments meeting the right person? And also the role of luck.
Speaker 2: You said you got lucky. I don't think you got lucky.
Speaker 2: I think there's luck and timing plays a role, but
Speaker 2: I also think you do manifest things for yourself, and
Speaker 2: by putting yourself forward that wasn't lucky. You actually stepped
Speaker 2: through the discomfort to put your name forward and then
Speaker 2: you got it. But you couldn't have got the job
Speaker 2: unless you went for it. But the most important thing
Speaker 2: that stood out for me in that is how we
Speaker 2: silo ourselves based on the things we can and can't
Speaker 2: do from a very young age, and you not being
Speaker 2: able to visualize things could have easily made you believe
Speaker 2: you weren't clever.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I genuinely thought I was stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you couldn't do just one aspect of the
Speaker 2: brain's capacity. But I almost want to cry thinking about
Speaker 2: without those sliding doors moments, how you might never have
Speaker 2: discovered that you're incredibly clever. It's just a different form offer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And honestly I don't think like thinking back
Speaker 1: to my high school days thinking back to other students
Speaker 1: similar to myself, like I would have benefited wholeheartedly doing
Speaker 1: more of like a tape style hands on because I
Speaker 1: learned by doing. I don't learn by listening, And so
Speaker 1: high school is very much like a how well can
Speaker 1: you recite what you've learned? It's not how smart you are,
Speaker 1: And so unfortunately I was at a disadvantage. So most
Speaker 1: of my high school life I just turned up, put
Speaker 1: my name on a test, and then walked away and
Speaker 1: barely passed. But where I am now in my career,
Speaker 1: I never would have thought that I'd be a successful person.
Speaker 1: I never would have seen myself in a role like
Speaker 1: this where I'm able to empower others. So it's so fulfilling.
Speaker 1: Like I'm so proud and so proud to work for
Speaker 1: HP and have people within HP trust me enough to
Speaker 1: come and have a talk to you as well and
Speaker 1: represent the brand is amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. And I do think for anyone
Speaker 2: listening who has tried to fit themselves in the wrong
Speaker 2: shaped hole and it's made them reflect on their intelligence
Speaker 2: or capabilities in a way that they think, well, I
Speaker 2: can't do that, so I can't do anything you just
Speaker 2: need to keep trying. You'll find something like someone out
Speaker 2: there is looking for exactly what you have. That's the
Speaker 2: quote I always come back to, and I'm so excited
Speaker 2: that you have found that and obviously thriving doing it.
Speaker 2: But it is true that another part of this show
Speaker 2: is the idea that I don't also want to ask
Speaker 2: people what they do as the first question. I want
Speaker 2: to ask what's your yea? What lights you up? I
Speaker 2: don't want it to be our whole identity, but it
Speaker 2: is important to understand what you do so that others
Speaker 2: could aim for this role in the future. How do
Speaker 2: you describe it? Because it is so multifaceted, like.
Speaker 1: What do you do? Look, if I want to tell
Speaker 1: you my formal role is HP's lead trainer and content manager,
Speaker 1: and then that asterisk field team manager Asterisk you know,
Speaker 1: pr person, I guess or hype guy for HP. But honestly,
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: Dog shirt wearer extraordinare I.
Speaker 1: Honestly the coul shirt guy? That's so fine too.
Speaker 2: Honestly, whatever the official one I found on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1: I thought, I thank you, I'm s It's fine. Please,
Speaker 1: I'll make sure to put that as a skill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pull shirt where I know, I was tossing up to
Speaker 1: I go dog shirt or caterpillars today, but I thought,
Speaker 1: doc sh.
Speaker 2: I mean it says a lot. I think dog immediately
Speaker 2: ingratiating yourself with me, I'm like, this is good, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Also, I realized I've also done
Speaker 1: a few bit of other works with the same shirts,
Speaker 1: so that's fine.
Speaker 2: I just pretend that to sustainable sustainable fashion.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Anyway back to your main question though, what is
Speaker 1: my role? So formally, I'm going to call it HP
Speaker 1: hype guy, but also product expert for consumer products. So
Speaker 1: whenever you go into a retail store, you go online,
Speaker 1: you see HP products, whether it be our HP laptops
Speaker 1: and premium, our own gaming laptops, polyhead sets, Hyperrex for gaming,
Speaker 1: all of the above pattern pending no, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Like, where are they? This is like literally an accident
Speaker 2: that we both turned out with ours.
Speaker 1: I mean, I personally am I have a wee bit
Speaker 1: of the tismism, so being able to walk around in
Speaker 1: public and stuff is really hard for me. Sometimes loud
Speaker 1: noises can be really hard, so I actually use these
Speaker 1: to block out the world. I find it really easy
Speaker 1: to walk around with a podcast. That way, I'm dictating
Speaker 1: what is going through my ears rather than loud jarring noises,
Speaker 1: and I find myself creping a lot more with my
Speaker 1: day to day when I have noise canceling headphones on.
Speaker 1: So that was unintentional, but here we are talking about it.
Speaker 2: I didn't think about that use case. For me. It
Speaker 2: was more like block out my child screaming. But you know,
Speaker 2: multifaceted either.
Speaker 3: Way, same end goal.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I love that. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: long story, short product type guy, HP person. When it
Speaker 1: comes down to all things consumer product.
Speaker 2: That's amazing me and you have already. I mean that
Speaker 2: is how we met, is through you explaining and unlocking
Speaker 2: so many benefits for me. I mean everyone knows I
Speaker 2: try to jam too much into my life. I am
Speaker 2: constantly I call it optimism really about time, but I
Speaker 2: mean often to my detriment. But you have really unlocked
Speaker 2: I had all these devices, but wasn't sort of optimizing
Speaker 2: the way that I use them. And you've unlocked so much.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you to explain to so
Speaker 2: many people how they can enhance their workflows. And I
Speaker 2: mean time is our biggest commodity and the thing that
Speaker 2: we struggle the most with. But before we get to that,
Speaker 2: another thing that I find really important on this show
Speaker 2: is to humanize the person behind the role as well,
Speaker 2: because that's a really big thing. And something that's beautiful
Speaker 2: about HP is that you weren't just introduced to me
Speaker 2: in your role in terms of what you actually do
Speaker 2: skills wise. It was also part of your identity in
Speaker 2: the organization and your advocacy for inclusion in the workplace,
Speaker 2: and also your personal journey that you've been through being
Speaker 2: a non binary and even I mean, as everyone's heard
Speaker 2: in the intro, your pronouns are they them? And that's
Speaker 2: relatively unfamiliar in a lot of workplaces and for a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, the generations who are coming through now.
Speaker 2: So can you talk to us a little bit about
Speaker 2: that part of your experience and yeah, how you've navigated
Speaker 2: when you came out and how it's been embraced. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I was really lucky, Like I still feel
Speaker 1: like I came out quite young in comparison to a
Speaker 1: lot of other people still finding their identity. So I
Speaker 1: came out when I was twenty one. I'm honestly so
Speaker 1: thankful that I had I was the right time, right place. Obviously,
Speaker 1: working at jbhi Fi definitely helped because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of fellow queers in the environment, which made me realize, oh,
Speaker 1: I think I'm like them. But I started up thinking
Speaker 1: I was a lesbian, thinking you know, I just I'm queer,
Speaker 1: but still kind of questioning myself. And then I got
Speaker 1: to about twenty five and I met somebody that was
Speaker 1: non binary, and they explained, you know, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I'm a male. I don't feel female. I maybe
Speaker 1: a fab or assigned female at birth, but I just
Speaker 1: don't feel like I fit into that. And so for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, that makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: That's for me.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my gosh. That Like again, it
Speaker 1: all comes down to there's no linear experience. It is
Speaker 1: just you know, as you experience it, realize oh that's
Speaker 1: an option, my gosh. And so obviously I then started
Speaker 1: researching it to make sure, because again it all comes
Speaker 1: back to imposter syndrome. It's one thing to say, yeah, great,
Speaker 1: I'm that, but really you really want to solidify that
Speaker 1: before you started announcing it to people. But for me,
Speaker 1: as a non binary person, I am so genuinely proud
Speaker 1: to live my truth, to live who I am, and
Speaker 1: feel so safe and respected within my own like my
Speaker 1: workplace people, although I do get misgendered accidentally, but people
Speaker 1: actively try. And it is still really new, like to
Speaker 1: understand what non binary means, and it is new to
Speaker 1: consider they them as a pronoun and a lot of
Speaker 1: people still as an English language, get really confused that
Speaker 1: that's not multiple people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: But then my question that people is like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: so let's just say a post person just dropped off
Speaker 1: a package to your front door. Did they deliver the
Speaker 1: package or did he she? And they're like, well they
Speaker 1: did because we don't know. I'm like, job done, ye,
Speaker 1: thank you so much.
Speaker 3: No, I never put it that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just so easy to overcome that plural discussion,
Speaker 1: but people need to be open to it, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the hard part. They need to be open
Speaker 1: to that discussion. And so for me within HP, like,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to be the product type guy, but
Speaker 1: I'm kind of lucky because I also get to alongside
Speaker 1: a couple of other people within the business. I get
Speaker 1: to be the trendsetter in a way to helping these
Speaker 1: parents understand what non binary is, what being queer means
Speaker 1: to me because my goal within HP. I'm a part
Speaker 1: of a business resource group called the Pride Network, and
Speaker 1: I'm also part of the Women's Impact Network, and so
Speaker 1: my goal within HP is also to help educate because
Speaker 1: everyone within our business is starting to have kids and
Speaker 1: their kids are starting to grow up, and I want
Speaker 1: them to be able to feel comfortable in having the
Speaker 1: tough conversations so that their children feel safe to come out,
Speaker 1: that they can have those safe conversations so that they
Speaker 1: don't have the scenario that I kind of went through
Speaker 1: where I didn't feel safe. I didn't know how my
Speaker 1: parents were going to handle it. But if your parents
Speaker 1: come up to you and say, hey, how we feel
Speaker 1: in today? What's your pronouns? Can I just get engauge,
Speaker 1: like what are you feeling like? Could you imagine an
Speaker 1: environment where kids feel safe enough to do that, that
Speaker 1: they can just live their truth and not have to
Speaker 1: question or even come out like I think that that
Speaker 1: would just be such a beautiful environment. And HP is
Speaker 1: a really great start because they are so what's the word,
Speaker 1: They're so passionate about people living their truth and feeling
Speaker 1: confident and comfortable. So yeah, I'm really really thankful that
Speaker 1: I have the ability to do that.
Speaker 2: I think it really does come back to that similar
Speaker 2: parallel message of you can't step into something or a
Speaker 2: part of your identity or a role professionally or a
Speaker 2: label personally unless you've seen someone else do it, and
Speaker 2: someone has to be the brave person to do it
Speaker 2: first and navigate all the hard bits. There's so many
Speaker 2: hard bits to be the example to show, you know,
Speaker 2: younger generations, it's okay, this is what you might face,
Speaker 2: but these are the good parts, and these are you know,
Speaker 2: these are the way you can have these conversations. And
Speaker 2: you're doing just such an incredible job kind of incorporating
Speaker 2: both your personal life and your professional life into this
Speaker 2: one beautiful role modeling. I mean, it's really powerful. Can
Speaker 2: make me cry over, yesad of it. Oh, I think
Speaker 2: you appreciate I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I'm so proud. I'm genuinely so proud, especially when my
Speaker 1: mum I called my mom and like, hey, I did
Speaker 1: this today, You're proud of you. I'm like, thank you
Speaker 1: for putting that in my pot later, so that it's
Speaker 1: honestly it's it's genuinely so fulfilling in so many different avenues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting that I think there is such
Speaker 2: a fear around people saying the wrong thing often. I
Speaker 2: mean there is like the small minority in society who
Speaker 2: are not you know, on the page and will not
Speaker 2: necessarily have the kindest things to say. But I think
Speaker 2: for the most part people are if they misstep, it's
Speaker 2: more because they're so scared about offending or being politically correct.
Speaker 2: And I think it's really lovely that you have such
Speaker 2: a patience to be like if you're trying, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if you miss gender me because if you're open
Speaker 2: to me helping you to, you know, do it the
Speaker 2: right way. Then it's like, I think it's this fear
Speaker 2: that's creating a lot of difficulty.
Speaker 1: And if I could leave one message for that, like
Speaker 1: don't hesitate, like try just just give it a red
Speaker 1: hot go It's okay if you mess up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The important thing is if, for instance, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: they them is my pronouns, if you call me she,
Speaker 1: that's okay, just don't harbor on it, because if you
Speaker 1: apologize and you harbor on it, it makes it awkward
Speaker 1: for all of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just say she.
Speaker 1: I mean, they move on. I'm not even gonna say anything,
Speaker 1: if anything when it come up to you afterwards and
Speaker 1: say thank you so much for trying. Yeah, like it's okay. Yeah, genuinely,
Speaker 1: it makes my heart happier to see people trying then
Speaker 1: not even give it a go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you're really anxious and you know somebody that
Speaker 1: their pronouns have changed from what you're used to, just
Speaker 1: use their name. Yeah, it's really not hard. Yeah, so's
Speaker 1: There's so many different different ways that you can approach
Speaker 1: these things, but to give somebody the time of day, honestly,
Speaker 1: I promise you that person will go home feeling elated and.
Speaker 2: That you've tried.
Speaker 1: Literally, Yeah, it makes my I will go home to
Speaker 1: my partner like I have beautiful souls like Chloe or
Speaker 1: like someone named Kat within my business who will literally
Speaker 1: go out of their way and will correct themselves, and
Speaker 1: I'll go home like this happened today when I talk
Speaker 1: to my partner and she just has like the biggest
Speaker 1: smile because again, we're just so appreciative that there are
Speaker 1: people in our lives that care enough to try.
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful, and I think, yeah, fear is an
Speaker 2: emotion that does withhold us from a lot of things,
Speaker 2: so in a complete pivot, but also similar similar vein
Speaker 2: of that kind of fear. Another area that I've learned
Speaker 2: a lot from your is AI, and that is a
Speaker 2: topic of our conversation today because there's so much I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like I've gone from hearing about it constantly
Speaker 2: but knowing nothing about how it works, just suddenly using
Speaker 2: it every day, but my understanding of it. I use
Speaker 2: it without fully understanding how it's working. And I think
Speaker 2: all of us have been through that process of it's
Speaker 2: now in our lies everywhere, but our brain's ability to
Speaker 2: catch up with what it's doing has lagged. And you
Speaker 2: have explained a lot of things to me. You've got
Speaker 2: this incredible ability to distill the hectic science and techy
Speaker 2: explanations into like a lay person explanation. But I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fear and misinformation still about how
Speaker 2: it's going to take over our lives. So can you
Speaker 2: start by debunking a few of the biggest misconceptions that
Speaker 2: we have, because I think fear is the first place
Speaker 2: that people go before they sort of they have to
Speaker 2: get over that to then go But look at all
Speaker 2: the amazing things that can do, Look at how it
Speaker 2: can change our lives. So yeah, maybe start with some
Speaker 2: of the things we might have heard in the media,
Speaker 2: like robots are going to take out of our lives
Speaker 2: by tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, was it. They're going to control our lives,
Speaker 1: They're going to take our jobs, They're going to do
Speaker 1: all of these things. But the problem is, have you
Speaker 1: seen the AI renders of images with people with seven
Speaker 1: fingersally just evoke to you about that, referring back to
Speaker 1: your to your husband in that amazing video you did. Again,
Speaker 1: it's never going to be perfect because AI is only
Speaker 1: as smart as the people creating or prompting. So ultimately,
Speaker 1: it's not going to take our jobs. It's not smart enough.
Speaker 1: Even if you were to get it to d like,
Speaker 1: for instance, we give you achine, say hey, here's the
Speaker 1: brief for today. You can ask it to read the brief,
Speaker 1: but it's still not going to be accurate without the
Speaker 1: right prompting of asking give me a brief. I need
Speaker 1: to know you know, A, B and C specifics on
Speaker 1: what is the actual key takeaways? What do I need
Speaker 1: from this? What do I need from this? If you're
Speaker 1: not specific in your requests of the AI to analyze.
Speaker 1: It's going to be extremely confused. It's not going to know,
Speaker 1: and it's still yeah, it's using the clouds, so in
Speaker 1: other words, it's up and the never never using everyone
Speaker 1: else's brains to kind of give you a result. But
Speaker 1: it's still using millions and millions of points of data
Speaker 1: to try and assume what you want. So it's only
Speaker 1: so smart. So really it's Yeah, it's some of the
Speaker 1: greatest minds put into one piece, but ultimately it's still
Speaker 1: just as important for you to make sure that you're
Speaker 1: asking the right things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So no, it's not going to take our jobs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going to make our lives a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot easier. And I find it funny because people are
Speaker 1: so scared of AI. But do you use Google Home,
Speaker 1: do you use Siri? Do you use Amazon? Like in
Speaker 1: the morning, I'm like, hey, can you set a timer
Speaker 1: for this please and thank you just in case there
Speaker 1: is an uprise. I want to back myself, but you
Speaker 1: know that's just me seeing a lot of horror movies.
Speaker 1: But ultimately I really don't see it being a problem.
Speaker 1: We use it in our day to day lives without
Speaker 1: even realizing. So I think it's really just use it
Speaker 1: to your advantage. If you don't I want to use it,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to adopt AI, that's fine, but
Speaker 1: I promise you it'll actually make you more efficient. It
Speaker 1: will make your life so much easier if you give
Speaker 1: it a chance. But you've got to be willing again
Speaker 1: to try. You've got a willing be willing to actually
Speaker 1: research what it is that you want out of this
Speaker 1: AI and how it is going to make your life easier,
Speaker 1: which is a fantastic tool, especially within our HP products
Speaker 1: because obviously I'm here to talk about HP I'm passionate
Speaker 1: about HP. We have our own HPAI companion where you
Speaker 1: can actually draw all these questions and make your life
Speaker 1: easier and make yourself more efficient. Because you mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: like you are somebody that is very precious of your time.
Speaker 1: However you probably say yes to a thousand things like
Speaker 1: I've seen your podcast, I've seen your social media. Where
Speaker 1: you get the time is beyond me.
Speaker 3: We as people.
Speaker 1: There's this misconception back in the day when you're working
Speaker 1: that if you put in extra hours you're valued, you're
Speaker 1: going to be irreplaceable. But ultimately that's not the case.
Speaker 1: You need to value your time. You spend more time
Speaker 1: with your work colleagues than you do with the people
Speaker 1: you choose to love, your partners, your kids, whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. So if you can get time back using
Speaker 1: AI so you can spend it with the people you love,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? And I think, yeah, I if I
Speaker 2: had not so much fear, but if I had like
Speaker 2: confusion or any hesitation, as soon as I saw that
Speaker 2: time is my most precious commodity of any other value
Speaker 2: in my life. If it helps me get more of
Speaker 2: that and do everything I do the same button more efficiently,
Speaker 2: Like why wouldn't you?
Speaker 1: Ually money comes and goes, times gone.
Speaker 2: You can never make that back. Yeah, but you can
Speaker 2: optimize it. And I think that's really important. The kind
Speaker 2: of connected fear with it taking over our lives is
Speaker 2: whether or not it can I think there's a two
Speaker 2: concepts that they're kind of similar. Can it make the
Speaker 2: same decisions as a human brain? And can it be autonomous?
Speaker 2: And I think the big fear around saying please and
Speaker 2: thank you, that's been really big. I want to ask
Speaker 2: you that that's been a big thing in the news recently,
Speaker 2: should you say please and thank you? Because can AI
Speaker 2: make decisions without you prompting it? And I think the
Speaker 2: answer is no, we still need human prompts. But I
Speaker 2: think the fear is that they're bubbling away. Your AI
Speaker 2: is bubbling away like judging you and getting ready to
Speaker 2: take over your life. Explained to us why that's not
Speaker 2: a concern, but why you might still say please and
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real. AI is still in its
Speaker 1: own state, kind of like a machine. It's not something
Speaker 1: that has a brain that thinks. So even saying please
Speaker 1: and thank you, that's just a word to AI. It
Speaker 1: doesn't actually have the emotion behind it. So that's just
Speaker 1: something I do just in case.
Speaker 2: But realistically, I don't.
Speaker 1: Look, this is my own personal opinion, but I really
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna uprise and come for me. But
Speaker 1: I'm still backing myself. Yeah, but from like a standpoint
Speaker 1: of uprising and all of the fear mongering that we have, Look,
Speaker 1: people are the ones that are creating these AI bots,
Speaker 1: they're the ones that are teaching it, they're the ones
Speaker 1: that are giving it reference points. So if there are
Speaker 1: any issues regarding that, these people can switch them off
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, Like there are still some rigorous testing
Speaker 1: because there are people that are so curious, Like as people,
Speaker 1: we are naturally curious to see the what if. So
Speaker 1: there's probably people out there trying to build something, but
Speaker 1: they're also still in control. They're still controlling that they
Speaker 1: can switch it off because AI needs power. If you
Speaker 1: don't give it, if you just flick the switch off
Speaker 1: and well, ultimately gone, I keep going. Yeah, again, that's
Speaker 1: that's my own personal opinion. Like maybe if they're I
Speaker 1: don't know, hooking it up to sustainable energy like Thula power,
Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen. But ultimately I don't
Speaker 1: personally see that issue coming along, at least not in
Speaker 1: my generation. Who knows what the future holds because people
Speaker 1: are curious. We've all seen horror movies. You just you
Speaker 1: don't know. But I think people need to really move
Speaker 1: on from that fear mongering and that scare tactic and
Speaker 1: just take advantage of trying to get their time back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is what we need to value more because once
Speaker 1: it's gone, it's gone. So like you yourself, you have
Speaker 1: such a young family, why would you not want to
Speaker 1: go spend time with your kids and watch them grow
Speaker 1: up and not miss those milestones.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and that's I mean, that is my next
Speaker 2: question for you is what are some of the biggest ways,
Speaker 2: particularly for people who haven't yet kind of had that
Speaker 2: like aha moment where it's clicked over of this literally
Speaker 2: is the way like tangible examples of things you use
Speaker 2: that help you work smarter, So our listeners can adopt
Speaker 2: without needing to understand AI. You can use hp AI
Speaker 2: companion without needing to know how it works. You literally
Speaker 2: open the window and type in a question and it'll
Speaker 2: answer it for you. Literally, like what are some tangible
Speaker 2: examples of things people can introduce into their lives.
Speaker 1: So obviously, as I mentioned, I have a fantasia. I
Speaker 1: can't visualize anything, but I can type things, and I
Speaker 1: can ask questions, and I can ask it to generate
Speaker 1: something for me. So now I have my own version
Speaker 1: of what you visualize. AI is such a good tool
Speaker 1: from a disability and even just like an advocacy standpoint,
Speaker 1: because there's if there's stuff that's missing that you can't
Speaker 1: have that can fill in some of the gaps for you.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of it. Yeah, you can't picture it,
Speaker 2: so you type in the description and a picture come
Speaker 2: out and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, can you please create this? So at the moment,
Speaker 1: I for my role, I do a lot of conferences
Speaker 1: and I like to create boots and I'm really creative
Speaker 1: in what I want to do, but I can never
Speaker 1: picture it, and then trying to explain it to my
Speaker 1: colleagues to say this is what I want, like my
Speaker 1: poor colleagues to Chear has to deal with a lot
Speaker 1: of my crap and a lot of the times she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying. Was So I use
Speaker 1: AI to kind of create a visualization so that I
Speaker 1: can actually present that back because my descriptions aren't great
Speaker 1: and I know that even in my house at the moment,
Speaker 1: my partner is sick of my stuff. My idea is
Speaker 1: because I can't picture it. But I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: that TV cabinet looks really good, and she's like that
Speaker 1: will clash with the colors of the house, but I
Speaker 1: can't picture it. I think it looks great, but I
Speaker 1: see it as a single item, not multiple. But we
Speaker 1: actually used AI where we were able to incorporate the
Speaker 1: photo image in a three D created a three D
Speaker 1: rendering of our home, use the three D rendering of
Speaker 1: that particular product put in the laund room, only for
Speaker 1: me to realize, yeah, I was wrong, and I'm very
Speaker 1: very aware that I am not going to be correct
Speaker 1: all of the time.
Speaker 2: But for instance, like what is that like? I don't
Speaker 2: know what that's like because I'm not right all the time.
Speaker 1: I can't relate. Unless it's work related, then I am
Speaker 1: a genius if anyone else. No one questioned me, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think when it comes down to it, like drawing
Speaker 1: it back to product and stuff. So for me in
Speaker 1: my personal life, that's one way. But obviously from a
Speaker 1: work perspective, asking my AI bot on my laptop so
Speaker 1: AI companion to actually create those renderings for me, I
Speaker 1: can also utilize the AI companion within the PC to
Speaker 1: actually optimize my computer. So then the role of having
Speaker 1: to worry about technicians kind of goes out the door
Speaker 1: because the PC can actually adopt how you use your
Speaker 1: PC for yourself, so you don't have to worry constantly
Speaker 1: about going into the bios or breaking the laptop. The
Speaker 1: software does it all for you. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: so so cool, right, And then you've got the efficiency piece.
Speaker 1: Like everybody wants a laptop that's going to last days.
Speaker 1: What if I told you that actually exists. Like the
Speaker 1: laptops that we're currently using, you look at like twenty
Speaker 1: something hours of battery life. Because AI companion is able
Speaker 1: to actually switch off specific things, It's able to look
Speaker 1: at what the RAM is being utilized for, shrink it down,
Speaker 1: lower the demand so that it can actually tailor to
Speaker 1: what you're actually using it for. To give you that
Speaker 1: all day battery life. You close the lid, it automatically
Speaker 1: adopts again because you have HP smarts since So you
Speaker 1: close the lid and you put in your backpack. Four
Speaker 1: days later, you realize you forgot to turn it off
Speaker 1: and it's only dropped by ten percent. Like, there's so
Speaker 1: many different things that you can utilize without even needing
Speaker 1: to do anything. And I think that that, within itself,
Speaker 1: is one tickbox. You click the button, done and dusted.
Speaker 1: You don't have to think about it anymore. And a
Speaker 1: lot of the times people are just scared that they're
Speaker 1: going to break it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that actually highlights another thing that confuses a
Speaker 2: lot of people about AI, and that confused me before
Speaker 2: you explained it recently, So I think most people when
Speaker 2: they think of AI are thinking of the AI bot
Speaker 2: or the best friend in a search engine that you
Speaker 2: can pretty much ask anything. You type a question in
Speaker 2: a search box and it answers your questions or creates
Speaker 2: whatever you want it to create. A lot of listeners
Speaker 2: will have used chat GPT for that. We both have
Speaker 2: our hp omnibox in front of us, and they have
Speaker 2: an inbuilt version called HPAI Companion that we've been talking about.
Speaker 2: I use this daily for things like asking it to
Speaker 2: write the podcast intros for me. So I'll literally type
Speaker 2: in write a brief introduction and bio for Lauren Dennett,
Speaker 2: and it will search the entire Internet and spit out
Speaker 2: within seconds the text for me to then tweak and
Speaker 2: put into my own words. But that saves so much time.
Speaker 2: Or I'll say, list the main misconceptions people might have
Speaker 2: about AI, and that's how I build the questions for
Speaker 2: this episode instead of, you know, spending time thinking it
Speaker 2: up in my own brain first. But then you've been
Speaker 2: talking about optimizing battery life and AI working like an
Speaker 2: inbuilt technician and switching things on and off without you
Speaker 2: even asking it to. So when you talk about that
Speaker 2: kind of function like AI optimizing our devices or our
Speaker 2: apps without us prompting it. What does that mean? Like,
Speaker 2: what is the difference between those functions?
Speaker 1: A lot of the time you say AI and people
Speaker 1: automatically go straight to chat. GPT and Microsoft have obviously
Speaker 1: started bringing in copilot and they're starting to be that
Speaker 1: next demand. But for us at HP, we have HPAI Companion,
Speaker 1: which is only on our units. But to draw back
Speaker 1: to your question around like what is the difference. So
Speaker 1: for an overarching thing, you've got to look at how
Speaker 1: PCs are built, right, So ordinarily we're all familiar with CPUs, GPUs.
Speaker 1: Now with AI, we have a thing called the NPU,
Speaker 1: which is a neural processing unit. So it's extra jargon
Speaker 1: that no one ever wants to know about. So if
Speaker 1: I would have bring it to you in a really
Speaker 1: like simplistic way that most people will understand, You've got
Speaker 1: your CPU, which is the brain of the PC. You've
Speaker 1: got your GPU which is your muscles. Now my own iteration.
Speaker 1: So again I'm not holding HP accountable by the way
Speaker 1: for any of this, but this is my own way
Speaker 1: of explaining it. To make it make english or makes sense,
Speaker 1: is by referring to the NPU as a therapist. Personally,
Speaker 1: I love therapy. I love going to talk to my
Speaker 1: psychologist after I've had a ripping week, or if I'm
Speaker 1: exhausted and I just need to just absolutely brain dump
Speaker 1: everything that's happening, then go to them. Basically, get rid
Speaker 1: of everything, go home and feel refreshed, feel more efficient,
Speaker 1: sleep better, not feel exhausted constantly. That is basically what
Speaker 1: the MPU is doing for the PC when it comes
Speaker 1: to AI driven tasks. So there are localized AI tasks
Speaker 1: like basically using some parts of AI companion, using particular
Speaker 1: camera tools so you know, when you open your calls
Speaker 1: and you've got background blur on, or you might want
Speaker 1: it to track your face because you've got ADHD and
Speaker 1: you want the camera to just keep an eye on you.
Speaker 1: Or you've got the creepy tool where you can basically
Speaker 1: keep the camera on and if you blink or if
Speaker 1: you look away, it still tracks your eyes. Freaks me out,
Speaker 1: by the way, don't turn it on. But that is
Speaker 1: using the NPU because it's an AI driven task. So
Speaker 1: again it makes the PC more efficient instead of requiring
Speaker 1: lots of power that is then reserved for the CPU
Speaker 1: and GPU to do what it needs to do. So
Speaker 1: brain muscles therapist. Whow that is my breakdown. But in
Speaker 1: terms of like categorizing AI and how it can be utilized, Look,
Speaker 1: you've got your cloud based one, which is where most
Speaker 1: people are kind of concerned because obviously they're thinking, where's
Speaker 1: my information going, where are my questions going? Where's all
Speaker 1: this going? And yeah, it's sitting up here. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you where it's going because it depends on what
Speaker 1: you're using where it's going. Look, ultimately, no one's going
Speaker 1: to really care where you're twenty twenty one photos from
Speaker 1: BALI are going to be honest, But I.
Speaker 2: Think about that all the time. One's so weird, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's all your search is about seventy five
Speaker 2: different Zuchini slice recipes, Like no one cares.
Speaker 1: Her mind's just like, am I allergic to this?
Speaker 3: Google adopted? Please help me?
Speaker 2: Man? What does this mean?
Speaker 1: Yea? So look, people post on like all of our
Speaker 1: social media photos constantly. What makes you think that's any
Speaker 1: different to what AI is doing with that data? So
Speaker 1: I think we really it took us a while to
Speaker 1: adopt social media, and I have no doubt that AI
Speaker 1: is in a similar standpoint, so I think we'll adopt it. Inevitably,
Speaker 1: people will start to feel more and more comfortable once
Speaker 1: they realize the benefits of the efficiencies that are offered.
Speaker 1: But like I said, drawing back to you've got cloud,
Speaker 1: you've got localized version. So at the moment with AI Companion,
Speaker 1: it's currently all cloud based, but it can use localized
Speaker 1: information on the PC. So when you ask it questions,
Speaker 1: it draws up, goes up here, it comes back down,
Speaker 1: gives you the response. But there are parts of it.
Speaker 1: So you've got three key points to AI Companion. You've
Speaker 1: got analyzing, you've got ask it questions, and then you've
Speaker 1: got performance. So for you specifically, you've done a lot
Speaker 1: of like the asking, but you've also done a bit
Speaker 1: of performance without realizing. And more importantly, you've got the
Speaker 1: analyzed section where it allows you to have a briefing doc.
Speaker 1: You can upload it directly to AI Companion and ask
Speaker 1: questions of that reference point. So it's your information. It's
Speaker 1: specifically for you. No one else is going to have
Speaker 1: that particular file. That's your file, so you can actually
Speaker 1: have a conversation with the AI on that file. So again,
Speaker 1: I think it's really great from an inclusion standpoint because
Speaker 1: AI is going to make life easier for those that
Speaker 1: may not have the same communication abilities. They may have
Speaker 1: ADHD and may not be able to read specific parts.
Speaker 1: But if you can copy that and get the AI
Speaker 1: to actually read it out loud and treat it like
Speaker 1: a conversation or a podcast, I retain information so much
Speaker 1: better by listening to podcasts like what you create. But
Speaker 1: if you give me the same thing as a transcript
Speaker 1: on a page, you better believe I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get through that. I couldn't think of anything worse. So if, yeah,
Speaker 1: you use tools like AI to create conversations that ordinarily
Speaker 1: are on.
Speaker 2: A piece of paper, why wouldn't you want to do that?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. That's one of the
Speaker 2: things that I didn't know it could do. Like I
Speaker 2: was always just using it more like a search engine function,
Speaker 2: and that was both AI companion on my device about
Speaker 2: the device, but about anything. I mean, when I created
Speaker 2: a video, I was like, make a video of my
Speaker 2: husband and I as bears, Like it can literally do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the same with more Yeah, cloud based like CHATDPD,
Speaker 2: I would do the same thing, I'd ask it to
Speaker 2: write my intros, Like, that's so time saving because I
Speaker 2: spent so long on the wording. And even though, of
Speaker 2: course you tailor it to your so you make edit
Speaker 2: so it's in your own voice, starting with a block
Speaker 2: of text is so much more useful. But what I
Speaker 2: had never used it for until you explained analyze to
Speaker 2: me is yeah, uploading a document and then getting AI
Speaker 2: to analyze it for you. So for anyone who runs
Speaker 2: a business and you need to like time consuming tasks
Speaker 2: like uploading bank statements or statements where you're like, please
Speaker 2: tell me how much I spent on uber eats or
Speaker 2: like high light, don't do that, I share. But you
Speaker 2: can literally something that you would otherwise go through line
Speaker 2: by line yourself and add it all up. You can
Speaker 2: upload a document and say what is the key thesis
Speaker 2: of this article or what is the main expense that
Speaker 2: you see coming up over and over again? Like you
Speaker 2: can ask it to read it quickly for you and
Speaker 2: then spit out answers. It is revolutionary. Like the time
Speaker 2: consuming tasks and in editing, it also does things like
Speaker 2: the way AI has really helped with podcast and video
Speaker 2: editing is there are lots of pauses, like I have
Speaker 2: so many yes.
Speaker 1: Just classic silences where you're like, my brain's thinking, what
Speaker 1: do I need to say here? I need to see
Speaker 1: your brain ticking over want.
Speaker 2: Arms and ahs and instead of I used to manually
Speaker 2: go through and edit.
Speaker 1: How many hours is that going to take you?
Speaker 2: Like hours hours? Because you really listen to the episode
Speaker 2: at like half speed to cut, you know, basically half
Speaker 2: to give.
Speaker 3: Your own voice are you oh my god? And the
Speaker 3: guest flows for the time.
Speaker 2: It's like killed my buzz by the end of the
Speaker 2: episode because all I've heard is the arms and not
Speaker 2: the actual content. But now like AI can do, there
Speaker 2: are settings in your apps where it's like cut out
Speaker 2: all the arms and it will just process the entire
Speaker 2: file in like a minute and all the arms are gone.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why have we not all been using
Speaker 2: these tools same changing?
Speaker 1: And do you know what? It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: slightly bitter part of me is mad because students get
Speaker 1: to benefit from this.
Speaker 3: Yes, the gen zs, the gen whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh god, now I'm really showing how think. Yeah, young
Speaker 1: snappers honestly.
Speaker 2: Using the Facebook and the Google I am hip with
Speaker 2: the yes I am trend I.
Speaker 1: Just reminds me of the guy from Grown Ups where
Speaker 1: he turns up with the skateboard.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly that that's us, but the whipper snappers
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 1: But yeah, drawing back to that, like I think of
Speaker 1: all the people that are going back to study UNI
Speaker 1: high schools. Union is actually starting to pay for subscriptions
Speaker 1: so that people they can kind of get ahead and
Speaker 1: know what is being used because obviously if the unions
Speaker 1: pay for the subscription, they get to see what people
Speaker 1: are actually utilizing the AI for, which I think is
Speaker 1: really smart because they're going to do it anyway. But honestly,
Speaker 1: the hardest part of starting a lot of assignments and
Speaker 1: things is literally that first question you mentioned, like how
Speaker 1: do you start the brief, how do you start the podcast?
Speaker 1: How are you doing the welcoming? If you can get
Speaker 1: it to do that, like, imagine how much time that
Speaker 1: block no longer exists, and I think that that is
Speaker 1: really cool. So again, yeah, the bitter person in me
Speaker 1: is like, that's rubbish. Maybe I would have actually succeeded
Speaker 1: faster if I had have had this benefit, but ultimately
Speaker 1: it's a really cool thing to have and to see
Speaker 1: someone creative like yourself actually utilizing it for the benefits
Speaker 1: of like your podcast. Your creativity is great, but the
Speaker 1: mundane stuff of you know, tax times coming up, I
Speaker 1: can think of anything bloody worse, and I will mention
Speaker 1: I do not want to see how many times I've
Speaker 1: used uber eats because I do not need that shame.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 2: I'm really actually upset that I did that exercise. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I thought you actually did it informative
Speaker 2: like to shock me into behavior change and just a
Speaker 2: spiral to.
Speaker 1: You then order uber eats to feel better.
Speaker 2: I was like, I need to emotional eat my way
Speaker 2: out of.
Speaker 3: This hole feeling terrible about myself.
Speaker 1: I might just get that that you know, that burger that,
Speaker 1: but I think the other thing that's it's really cool,
Speaker 1: even just from like a mundane task perspective, is like
Speaker 1: house contracts, not having to pay somebody tons of money
Speaker 1: to analyze something that you could probably get AI to
Speaker 1: highlight some of the key things, key words like even
Speaker 1: that's really cool, And I actually use that recently myself
Speaker 1: when I was selling a car, like just trying to
Speaker 1: go through that and try and understand it, like the time,
Speaker 1: even just to know, okay, cool. Do I actually trust
Speaker 1: that other person in what they're saying. I can actually
Speaker 1: analyze it myself. It just kind of reduces like the
Speaker 1: remorse or the regret of making that decision if you
Speaker 1: can sort of back yourself as it's really cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's actually a great question. In the mundane, day
Speaker 2: to day realm of people's lives. What are a couple
Speaker 2: of major ways if you were like a total AI
Speaker 2: KNEWB if you met them and were like, h, I
Speaker 2: want you to like integrate these three things into these
Speaker 2: mundane like tax or like editing or like whatever. What
Speaker 2: would be the three or four use cases that you're like,
Speaker 2: AI is amazing for these things.
Speaker 1: Groceries? What, Yeah, you can like so you can actually
Speaker 1: use AI. You can create like regular lists of groceries
Speaker 1: if you're willing to do tracking, especially for someone like myself.
Speaker 1: I'm neurodiverse. I've got ADHD pretty bad. I can't focus
Speaker 1: on things, so I make lists for everything. Then I
Speaker 1: lose the lists. Nice, So if I can, obviously, then
Speaker 1: I do it again. I'm like, I've got this genius idea.
Speaker 1: My partner's like, we did that last month. Remember how
Speaker 1: well that went? So using AI for a mundane task
Speaker 1: like groceries or even bill management where money anxiety is there,
Speaker 1: to be able to reduce that stress of being able
Speaker 1: to track where you're at utilizing AI, even AI companion,
Speaker 1: because the way that it works on our PCs is
Speaker 1: because it's yours, it actually can recall, you can create
Speaker 1: libraries so you can actually save it. But from an
Speaker 1: AI perspective, outside of even just the AI companion, having
Speaker 1: the ability to track your usage on an app for
Speaker 1: your groceries, being able to tick a box because again ADHD,
Speaker 1: it feels really nice to tick something and say yeah,
Speaker 1: good because then it feels like you've accomplished something. So
Speaker 1: to be able to do that is really really cool.
Speaker 1: So groceries huge list. To be able to track what's
Speaker 1: in your fridge and know what you need to order,
Speaker 1: because unless it's upfront for me, I don't know it exists.
Speaker 1: So unfortunately within my fridge, you better believe there's probably
Speaker 1: like a whole bloody cob of corn that's just.
Speaker 2: Really badly dynastic a long time ago.
Speaker 1: So to be able to track that is so so handy.
Speaker 1: But from a calendar perspective as well, I use AI
Speaker 1: with my partner to actually understand what is happening in
Speaker 1: her schedule. She's a midwife and so she's doing really
Speaker 1: really crazy hours. And then I travel a lot for work,
Speaker 1: so I never know when we're home. So we utilize
Speaker 1: it to be able to understand our schedules more importantly,
Speaker 1: create date nights because again I really value my personal time,
Speaker 1: but my favorite person in the world, Unfortunately, our schedules
Speaker 1: clash a lot. She's also doing UNI and that also
Speaker 1: makes like.
Speaker 2: Two and a half minutes for date night.
Speaker 1: Literally, but it's okay, We're okay, We're working really well,
Speaker 1: and we utilize AI to be able to figure out
Speaker 1: where we're going for dinner because the fatigue of making
Speaker 1: decisions is so bloody hard as well.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh my god, So what would you put a
Speaker 2: prompt in? Would you be like, where should we go
Speaker 2: for date night? Out of Japanese, Mexican and whatever, Like
Speaker 2: you literally just give it so ditation I.
Speaker 1: Go location, give me like four to five star rating
Speaker 1: restaurants and this is our budget and it will send recommendations.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've never used it. I've never That
Speaker 2: is like the biggest pain point in our relationship. What
Speaker 2: are we going to have for dinner.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so obviously my life is over.
Speaker 1: AI is so handy. But if you really want to
Speaker 1: like manipulate your partner a little bit, the best suggestion
Speaker 1: always ever give you is go up to your partner
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my gosh, you'll never guess where
Speaker 1: we're going out for dinner because usually the first place
Speaker 1: is where they want to go. One hundred bank might drop, yeah,
Speaker 1: but sometimes that fatigue is still there. So I definitely
Speaker 1: still do recommend, like if you want help picking particular places,
Speaker 1: because my partner and I tend to have a habit
Speaker 1: of just picking the same place every time. It's either
Speaker 1: that's thigh food or potentially Chuckold chicken because.
Speaker 2: I love chucoal chicken same I is Japanese or chocol chicken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, but sometimes it's nice to just get out
Speaker 1: of your comfort zone. Like I live in Gippsland. I
Speaker 1: live in Regional Victoria on Gippsland. Yeah, we're in Giffee.
Speaker 1: I wear a new warrigal.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so I'm a warrigal girl. Stop it.
Speaker 1: I mean, like proud of you for getting out by
Speaker 1: the way right, like.
Speaker 2: I know, I mean I was eighteen months old. I
Speaker 2: can't say that I engendered that decision, but like my
Speaker 2: first postcode yeah horrible. Yeah. I went back to speak
Speaker 2: for women in gips Land recently and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're a warrigor girl like kind of was like you
Speaker 2: know it, but like.
Speaker 3: I definitely left my mark on that plan.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, like that'll take it.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I remember from from Gippsland. But as
Speaker 1: you know that there's probably thirty bakeries, sixteen pizza shops.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of fish and the rest is
Speaker 3: just hairdressers. So that's true.
Speaker 1: You've got to be willing to drive like an hour
Speaker 1: for something good, so you want it to be good exactly.
Speaker 1: So using AI to answer the questions and the biggest
Speaker 1: draw card is again back to prompting, making sure you're
Speaker 1: asking the right question. So a lot of the times
Speaker 1: is we want to do this, here's the purpose of
Speaker 1: what it is, here's what we're looking for, here's your
Speaker 1: reference points, and then ask me five questions back to
Speaker 1: ensure that you know or understand what it is that
Speaker 1: I'm requesting. So that way it'll say, okay, great, I
Speaker 1: understand that you're vibing, you know, Mexican, Are there any
Speaker 1: allergies that we need to be concerned about? Or what's
Speaker 1: the budget or whatever it is. So having that proper
Speaker 1: conversation with the AI to really give you the response
Speaker 1: and the answer as a final result is so much
Speaker 1: more important than just being like give me food please, recommendations.
Speaker 2: Like that's not going to help at all.
Speaker 1: That's not going to give you your answer. So drawing
Speaker 1: back to AI, it's only as smart as the person
Speaker 1: willing to give the answers in the prompt Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying people as stupid. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: you taking the half asked approach to prompting is not
Speaker 1: going to give you what you need. It's not going
Speaker 1: to give you the results, and it's actually going to
Speaker 1: give you a bad experience, and therefore you will not
Speaker 1: continue to use it. Give it the chance to succeed
Speaker 1: so that you can actually utilize it to its fullest.
Speaker 2: The best tip that you gave me was ask AI
Speaker 2: to ask you questions back, and I was like, what
Speaker 2: do you even mean? Like what are you even saying?
Speaker 2: And you was when I was making the video, you said,
Speaker 2: give it your story because it was a Valentine's Day video. Yep,
Speaker 2: tell it your story and then get it to ask
Speaker 2: you back some questions that you think it would need
Speaker 2: to know, like do you want it to be more emotional?
Speaker 2: You know how long we've been together, like whatever, just
Speaker 2: ask her to ask you questions back. And I was like,
Speaker 2: that is so so clever because I didn't know the
Speaker 2: questions I needed to ask, and it asked me questions back.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is so smart, exactly.
Speaker 1: So smart exactly, so thank you for giving it a
Speaker 1: chance to succeed and give you what you need because
Speaker 1: we've got that final result. And I loved every minute.
Speaker 2: I was obviously the best thing I've ever read. I'm
Speaker 2: where is my Oscar nomination? I don't want to, I
Speaker 2: don't want to, like jumping done, but let me call
Speaker 2: the oscars really quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I've obviously, yeah, fully embraced not just AI generally
Speaker 2: and lots of cloud based platforms, but the omnibook specifically
Speaker 2: has so much built in and as you said, the
Speaker 2: battery life. It optimizes it when I'm editing versus when
Speaker 2: I'm word processing versus when I'm making bare videos like
Speaker 2: this when I'm listening passively like there's so many or scrolling,
Speaker 2: like there's so many different things that it is always
Speaker 2: working out how to best suit my life as a
Speaker 2: very light to a very heavy processing task person, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of doing the full spectrum. So it's I think,
Speaker 2: really anyone who's doing a lot of different tasks and
Speaker 2: who needs battery life and is on the goal all
Speaker 2: the time, it's such a good candidate for this laptop
Speaker 2: because it is AI optimized specifically. Who else do you
Speaker 2: think would really benefit?
Speaker 1: I think the people that are less techy but willing
Speaker 1: to give it a go. You've got early adopters, You've
Speaker 1: got all these different people that love tech but don't
Speaker 1: really know. I think that's really handy because like from
Speaker 1: my retail days, we used to get customers coming in and
Speaker 1: they're like, I need this spec, this spec, this spec.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, when did you get that information?
Speaker 1: Like my grandson they told me I need it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you using it for? And they're like Google, great.
Speaker 2: Microsoft word Yeah.
Speaker 1: Literally.
Speaker 3: So I think there's text.
Speaker 2: The tech what's that text one that has like no
Speaker 2: formatting or note notes, I don't know, whatever the one
Speaker 2: is where it's just text.
Speaker 1: But you know what, even like even from like a
Speaker 1: photo standpoint, they're like, I use paint.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, stop it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love paint, but you're going to crash like
Speaker 1: the circles and squiggles and then you color it in. Anyway,
Speaker 1: back to the actual like question at hand, who I
Speaker 1: think genuinely like the people that are willing to give
Speaker 1: tech a go but don't fully understand it. It's a
Speaker 1: really great tool because they may not understand where the
Speaker 1: settings are. They might want to deep dive and have
Speaker 1: a conversation with their PC and they can. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's something that we truly as users take
Speaker 1: advantage of. Like for me, I turn my laptop on,
Speaker 1: I mindlessly do things and I just I'm on autopilot.
Speaker 1: I know what I need to do, I know the
Speaker 1: questions I need to ask. But there are so many
Speaker 1: people out there that still are so scared and nervous
Speaker 1: to buy expensive devices because they don't think that they're
Speaker 1: going to take full advantage of it. But what if
Speaker 1: you could actually ask the PC to do specific settings
Speaker 1: or tailor it to them and it can do that
Speaker 1: job like great, Like there are so many amazing people
Speaker 1: out there that really deserve the chance to fully adopt
Speaker 1: all this new technology but just don't know where to start.
Speaker 1: It's a really great way to go.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Well, oh my gosh, Lauren, I could
Speaker 2: pick your brain forever. But this has been so educational
Speaker 2: and even yeah, I just hadn't even thought about your
Speaker 2: challenges with visualizing things and how from a disability standpoint,
Speaker 2: if like I just hadn't thought of that use case
Speaker 2: at all, I think that is so powerful as well,
Speaker 2: because yeah, that is a huge block to your ability
Speaker 2: to do the things that you want to do. And
Speaker 2: like this is a like unrelated but related example, even
Speaker 2: like renovating. I have used it so much to put
Speaker 2: in a picture of a room and say, put this
Speaker 2: couch in that room and show me what it would
Speaker 2: look like, move it to the other wall. Like that
Speaker 2: stuff is simple day to day stuff, but like from
Speaker 2: a visualization perspective, you couldn't do that before without getting
Speaker 2: a drafts person to like sketch it for you, or
Speaker 2: like trying to or you draw yourself in a magazine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you print and cut it like it's a new world.
Speaker 2: And it's so exciting that there are so many ways
Speaker 2: to enhance our lives. So thank you so much for
Speaker 2: sharing my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and I'm really glad that you actually can
Speaker 1: visualize because that made my heart happy because it proved
Speaker 1: my point that I clearly am missing out.
Speaker 2: So you're taking not now because I'm not, because AI,
Speaker 2: I complain.
Speaker 1: So if someone asked me that question, like give me
Speaker 1: one minute, let me just quickly like draw something up
Speaker 1: really quickly on my AI instead, because clearly.
Speaker 2: Well speaking of I hear that we finish every episode
Speaker 2: and I've actually forgotten to do this the last few episodes,
Speaker 2: but we finish most episodes with a quote, and I
Speaker 2: hear that you didn't have one. But I also find
Speaker 2: it hilarious that in the context of this conversation, you
Speaker 2: didn't go ask AI companion for a quote that would
Speaker 2: fit the CCA podcast. That specific guys, you can literally say,
Speaker 2: I am going on the CZA podcast, find me a
Speaker 2: quote that fits in with the vibe of this podcast,
Speaker 2: and it will do it for it is so crazy.
Speaker 1: Literally, and you know what, I think that I'm going
Speaker 1: to steal that quote, So yeah, what Sarah said, but genuinely,
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of ashamed considering the whole purpose of
Speaker 1: why I'm here today.
Speaker 3: And I didn't even think of that because.
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I should just like google some
Speaker 1: quotes and then just take something with me. But I
Speaker 1: don't remember quotes. I don't remember that, but I do
Speaker 1: remember when people have passion. But if I read a
Speaker 1: quote off a piece of paper, there's no emotion to that,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't mean much to me. So I think,
Speaker 1: just in general, like drawing back to everything that we say,
Speaker 1: just be an adopter. Give it a red hot go.
Speaker 1: If you were willing to give social media a go,
Speaker 1: then you can try AI because ultimately, if you're scared
Speaker 1: with all your information where that's going, what makes you
Speaker 1: think that your photos are not sending to the abyss,
Speaker 1: give it a chance, give it a chance to succeed,
Speaker 1: get your time back, do something for you so that
Speaker 1: you can spend more time with the people that you love.
Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you so much, Lauren, Sure, thank
Speaker 2: you for.
Speaker 3: Having me here. Love it.
Speaker 1: It's been great.
Speaker 2: My brain is still exploding in all directions from this one,
Speaker 2: and every time I re listened when editing, new questions emerged.
Speaker 2: If you do have any follow up questions, feel free
Speaker 2: to drop us a DM as always that we can
Speaker 2: pass on to Lauren, or any feedback for that matter,
Speaker 2: as I'm sure you found Lauren's tips as invaluable as
Speaker 2: I did. If you enjoyed, as always, please do share
Speaker 2: the episode with your thoughts and takeaways. It means the
Speaker 2: world to grow the neighborhood as far and wide as possible,
Speaker 2: and I will include links to the HP omnibook and
Speaker 2: other resources we mentioned in the show notes so that
Speaker 2: you can revolutionize your work set up the way I
Speaker 2: have thanks to HP. In the meantime, I hope you're
Speaker 2: having a wonderful week and are seizing your sim semi
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