WEBVTT - Week 13: Starting The Second Trimester 

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mom and Maya

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is recorded on.

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<v Speaker 2>I am pregnanty.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Hello Bump.

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<v Speaker 1>We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and more manageable.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Grace Ruefrey.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant for the first time, and I've officially hit

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<v Speaker 1>the second trimester, which is where I have been promised

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<v Speaker 1>that everything gets better.

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<v Speaker 2>I'mianta Pittman. I'm a formerly big athlete, I'm a mother

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<v Speaker 2>of six, and I'm now an obstetric trainee.

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<v Speaker 1>Each week, Yanna and I will be holding your hand

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<v Speaker 1>week by week through the mysterious, perplexing and sometimes quite

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<v Speaker 1>annoying miracle pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>Week thirteen And what.

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<v Speaker 1>Size is our baby in the first week of the

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<v Speaker 1>second trimester?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, still with fruit. We gotta go with a kiwi fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>But as you say, it is a pig milestone make

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<v Speaker 2>it into that second semester.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could be a mini cactus medicatus, a minisucculent.

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<v Speaker 2>Small cat of corn, like those little tiny ones about Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a army. These days, I've seen a lot more of

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of fancy beans.

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<v Speaker 1>But and how have they developed. What's happening in this

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<v Speaker 1>first week at the second track, Mistim, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to go with something fun. They can now suck

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<v Speaker 2>their thumb or form a fist.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm swear so cay because their fingers aren't

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<v Speaker 1>webbed anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think they're still I don't actually if

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<v Speaker 2>they've still got some webbing maybe the base of the finger,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're certainly making that sort of motion to go

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<v Speaker 2>up towards their mouth, which I think is quite cute. Babies,

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<v Speaker 2>testes and ovaries are now fully developed already at thirteen weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>so they've still got to move along way. So the boys'

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<v Speaker 2>tests have to drop down like descend outside, but their

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<v Speaker 2>actual the components of the testicles are there and present.

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<v Speaker 2>This remember how we talked about the umbilicalle I still

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm sorry when full is made, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is the way the intestines actually go back into their

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<v Speaker 2>proper place. So initially, if you were looking at notes saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd actually see the babies and testlines outside of its body,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it does multiple rotations and goes back inside

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<v Speaker 2>to albi housed like a slinky. Yeah a little bit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't of it. Look would look very nice on

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<v Speaker 2>an option, but I've never really seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but can you see it as that small stage?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it looks like a blob, yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>abdom looks round and big so and the last ones

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<v Speaker 2>the baby's vocal cords are starting to form, not that

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna make any noises for a while, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>when when you're, you know, six weeks into it, when

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<v Speaker 2>the baby's born and that are not shut up. You

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<v Speaker 2>can know that from it's been in development since thirteen weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened? What's happening to me? What's happening with my body?

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<v Speaker 2>Your ligaments is now stretching, so you're quite commonly feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of around ligament pain instead abdominal and groin pain.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at some point we'll talk about when the

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<v Speaker 2>red flags of that sort of pain need to develop,

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<v Speaker 2>because things like appendicide still happen, even a very intortion

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<v Speaker 2>still happens. That's where you're overy twists. So there's lots

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<v Speaker 2>of little things we need to think about. But at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, ninety percent of the time pain is related

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<v Speaker 2>to those ligaments stretching, and you might see that dark

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<v Speaker 2>line forming on your belly from your pivotpone, which usually

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<v Speaker 2>goes away out pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, is does everyone get that? I didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I feel like stretch marks. Some do, some don't. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot get stretch marks.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not want to have all the women on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast to hate me. But I still haven't got

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<v Speaker 2>stretch marks after all those breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't the so with the line stretch marks and the

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<v Speaker 1>belly button popping.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got that still still and then I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to dedicate an episode to it later. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>the worst volvo varicosis because I had testicles down there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's okay that I got my stretch marks.

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<v Speaker 3>What is it? Highlight though everybody's body is different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you've just said some terrifying things that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get too. Is this normal?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it normal? Is this normal?

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<v Speaker 1>When I lay down and run my hand along my stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's like it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a definitely a like a thing. That's the first

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<v Speaker 3>baby bub you've got. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So most women can now start feeling if you're

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<v Speaker 2>really if you lie down and you lie quietly, you

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<v Speaker 2>can start feeling like your pubic bone is bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>it used to be, and it's actually the uterus now

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<v Speaker 2>popping outside the top of the pubic.

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<v Speaker 1>Bone, and one of the things we can do at

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<v Speaker 1>week thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully I've had your screening and you are feeling

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful now and moving on to that next chapter of

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<v Speaker 2>your pregnancy. You've obviously got a book in the test

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<v Speaker 2>if you do want the diagnostic stuff, but if you've

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<v Speaker 2>gone with standard hospital care and not with midw free care,

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<v Speaker 2>soon you'll have your booking in visit. So if you've

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<v Speaker 2>gone with MGP, you've likely already had it. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't and your GP's been managing most of your pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to book in with the hospital. All public

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<v Speaker 2>hospitals will take you, Okay, there's no chance they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to take you. They have to if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>their local area. In fact, the hospital I work out

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<v Speaker 2>takes women from all over the states, so it's reassured

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<v Speaker 2>someone will be there present at your birth. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>just now time to start that booking in processing and

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<v Speaker 2>getting the familiar with what your body is and what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with your pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>And if anyone is waiting to get into MTP, I

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<v Speaker 1>might just share that it took me quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to get in. At this point, I was still

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<v Speaker 1>doing sharecare with the hospital and my GP and waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to see if I was on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Late call.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a late call.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing. It does happen very often.

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<v Speaker 1>Week sixteen, I think I got the call. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually at work and I missed it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that I had a voicemail, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Record, and I was like, oh my god, what.

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<v Speaker 1>If they just move on to the next person on

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<v Speaker 1>the list and I've missed my opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, And I think that's a good point, is if

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<v Speaker 2>you're really keen to be on that program and you

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<v Speaker 2>did not find out, you know, till later, and you're pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>ring them up and keep asking because unfortunately, women do

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<v Speaker 2>get taken off that when they get higher risk pregnancies.

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<v Speaker 2>So for example, if they've had diabetes or something that

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<v Speaker 2>excludes them from the MGP program.

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<v Speaker 3>Not always diabetes.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry, ladies, if you have diabetes, that's still usually

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<v Speaker 2>okay with MGP programs, but there might be something much

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<v Speaker 2>worse that is requiring them to move care and then

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<v Speaker 2>you might get us just like you did.

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<v Speaker 1>The talk kit for this week is now that I

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<v Speaker 1>know that she's fine and also that she's a she,

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<v Speaker 1>which is delightful. I did start telling more people, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was it's quite excited about having a girl. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said last week, that's what I wanted. You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>how many babies come into.

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<v Speaker 3>The hundreds, thousands, thousands. Is gender disappointment a thing? Very much?

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<v Speaker 2>It is, And it's interesting because and I don't mind

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<v Speaker 2>admitting that I really wanted a girl the same as

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<v Speaker 2>you and my first little guy, I was a boy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was really glad that I found out what

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<v Speaker 2>he was because I remember when I first found out,

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<v Speaker 2>I was disappointed. I'm going to be really frank and

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<v Speaker 2>honest because I think not owning that makes other people

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<v Speaker 2>who feel disappointment feel guilty and bad. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy pregnancy, he was a healthy little boy. Within a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. I was ecstatic he was a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But it allowed me to then celebrate at birth and

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<v Speaker 2>not have that disappointment as they're coming into the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's different.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the times I think you really need to

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<v Speaker 2>consider it is if you've got two or three boys

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<v Speaker 2>already and you're pregnant for the fourth time and you're

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<v Speaker 2>hoping it's a girl, it's quite commonly going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a boy. And therefore that disappointment is palpable in the

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<v Speaker 2>birth unit like you do see it, and women struggle

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<v Speaker 2>to bond with the baby because it's not what they

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<v Speaker 2>were hoping for or they envisioned it being something else.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't get me wrong, there's not many surprises left

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, and it's a pretty beautiful surprise if

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<v Speaker 2>you can hold onto it, and if it genuinely does

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<v Speaker 2>not matter, then it's a wonderful thing to wait and enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>It gives you an also.

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<v Speaker 2>Motivation when you're in that throes of labor, to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to about to find out what I'm having. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you know you're going to be disappointed with one

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<v Speaker 2>or the other, sometimes it's actually better to find out

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<v Speaker 2>and then and to love what you've got on the

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<v Speaker 2>inside and name him or her and have that you

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<v Speaker 2>know that time to be reassure. Now one more thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Testicles and vaginas look very different at birth from what

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<v Speaker 2>you expect them to look, so I have had plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of dads go, it's a boy, and it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>very big vulver, so have a really good look between

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<v Speaker 2>the baby's legs because it's very full of hormones and

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<v Speaker 2>blood at birth.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting in terms of people going, oh, it's such like

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful surprise for me, I found out the sex

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<v Speaker 1>for two reasons. One, I was feeling so sick. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to try to connect. Yeah, and I know to

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<v Speaker 1>just say he or she it seems like a silly thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just to start, I guess, making them

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<v Speaker 1>a person instead of the parasite that's.

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<v Speaker 3>The life out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>And also in terms of the surprise element for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, it's a surprise whenever you find out the information,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you know in an envelope that information exists,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just choosing not to know rather.

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<v Speaker 3>Than it being a surprise. That's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also thought, on the day, there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be so many other things going on that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really going to care.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I found out for those reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>There's great reasons, and it'd be nice to hear what

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<v Speaker 2>other people choose and why they do it too, because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when when I first had my baby's eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Now my eldest my twins are three, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's eighteen. It's a big age gap, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>no one could so it was only people who could

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<v Speaker 2>afford to find out would find out, whereas nowadays lots

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<v Speaker 2>of people choose not to because it's no longer as popular.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been like underarm hair, you know, there used to

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<v Speaker 2>be no one once is coming back and it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>vaginal hair is the same, which we should talk about

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<v Speaker 2>one time. The matter, well, it's very different downstairs for

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<v Speaker 2>ladies now lots and lots more hair. So the cultural

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<v Speaker 2>changes when it comes to baby names and baby gender

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<v Speaker 2>of eels and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I do have questions on that of whether

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen everything and whether you and whether you care

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<v Speaker 1>about what.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not a care?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great, I promise you there is absolute And that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good thought for this week.

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<v Speaker 3>What not to stress about is we do not care.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen at the least two thousand vaginas and I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot remember yours or anybody else's for that matter of age.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's whatever's most comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>For you, whatever you can reach at this point where

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<v Speaker 1>you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Reach is a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope you enjoyed this episode of Hello Bump. We

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<v Speaker 1>have so many episodes of this series filled with tips

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<v Speaker 3>We'll catch you next time. Bye.

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