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Speaker 3: Well, Harry, have you heard anything from aml?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a postcard today, a postcard.

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Speaker 5: Well what did he write?

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Speaker 1: Nothing? I've been sending him vintage postcards at.

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Speaker 4: Old New York to remind him you're getting old in

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Speaker 2: A hard John on them.

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Speaker 1: There're just a little mom here. I love him, and

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Speaker 1: so now he's sending me back playing postcards from Virginia. Ah,

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Speaker 1: want some wine?

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Speaker 6: I want all the wine. God, why do you have

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Speaker 6: two buttons open? Let me guess?

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Speaker 1: Because you're cool? Damn right, because I'm cool?

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Speaker 3: Because that is cool.

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Speaker 4: After you left the bar, I had sex with a nun.

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Speaker 1: I cannot leave you alone for a minute.

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Speaker 4: In my defense, Mary never mentioned she was a nun,

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Speaker 4: and she was dressed like a regular lesbian, aren't they all.

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Speaker 4: In fact, she didn't mention it until right after she

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Speaker 4: told me she was a virgin.

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Speaker 1: So you deflower the virgin Mary.

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Speaker 5: This is a witch hunt.

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Speaker 3: I know, my sweet baby angel, And even if he

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Speaker 3: was off leash, he is not violent.

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Speaker 7: There is not a.

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Speaker 1: Destructive scutting Jenny. Hello, and welcome to a special bonus episode.

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Speaker 1: If Mamma Mia out loud. Friends, it's that time. It's

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Speaker 1: a happy time because season three of and Just like

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Speaker 1: That has just launched on Max and we're pretty excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I was a little bit daunted.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't as excited as I have been perhaps for

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Speaker 1: other seasons. And then I watched it and it's a

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Speaker 1: whole new situation and I've got a whole new read

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Speaker 5: See that's so interesting.

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Speaker 2: This is what we have to unpack because I felt

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Speaker 2: it very much picked up where it left off and

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Speaker 2: I love that, Like my happy place is to be

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Speaker 2: hanging out with these women. I've realized that's a big

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Speaker 2: and so I just love to be with them. But

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. It hadn't jumped a year, or.

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Speaker 1: That's true, so I thought it might have jumped more so.

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Speaker 1: The three of us have watched the first episode, as

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Speaker 1: you probably have. Yes, they are going to be spoilers

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Speaker 1: because we are going to unpack episode one.

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Speaker 7: But before we talk.

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Speaker 1: About how we're feeling, let's just talk about where we did,

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Speaker 1: in fact leave off, as Holly said in season two,

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Speaker 3: They did a really good job of reminding me in

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Speaker 3: Maternity Leaders.

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Speaker 5: We did, because it's two years, yes, two.

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Speaker 1: Is it Virginia?

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Speaker 1: Has nothing much changed? From like Charlotte finished last season,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great, Holly. What was your general vibe?

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Speaker 2: My general vibe was great. I was a little bit like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah good, I thought that the and we'll get into

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Speaker 2: So she's all alone in her beautiful house and at

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Speaker 3: Like a waste. It's very privileged, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: And so she's in this beautiful house. The alarm keeps

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Speaker 3: I think it was Sex and the City the movie

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Speaker 3: Think it had a movie vibe. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: I think it's different. I think it was trying to

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Speaker 7: I had a lack of diversity.

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Speaker 1: It was trying to be very inclusive.

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Speaker 5: Absolve its original scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what came across was that it was neither thing.

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel realistic as a sort of a diverse,

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Speaker 2: Because she said our sex lives are the most honest

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Speaker 1: So I think we should acknowledge that a couple of

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Speaker 3: The core, less and deeper, which brings us to I

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Speaker 1: A quick break. Guys, Miranda fucked to none. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything more? Mary the City, the.

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Speaker 3: Virgin Mary, and it was Rosi o'donald. Look as a Catholic,

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Speaker 3: I have questions, okay, you do, which is nuns aren't

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Speaker 3: You're not wearing a habit. I understand that that's not

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Speaker 2: She she was having a crisis. She just this is

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Speaker 3: Going to have her back.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling, because it's Rosie o'donald that we

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Speaker 1: I loved Miranda with the red hair. I loved Miranda.

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Speaker 1: Dating Miranda seemed to me back to Miranda because another

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Speaker 3: I would say red flat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that annoyed. That annoyed me, hang up straight away.

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Speaker 3: No, why did she answering I don't care.

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Speaker 1: But once she established because she's like he doesn't usually

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Speaker 3: That annoyed me. I went, oh, this is an interesting

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Speaker 2: They play the part of good couple, right, I mean

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Speaker 3: I liked when Harry started.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when Harry thought he was part of the like

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Speaker 7: It's like, just let Charlotte Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: She had the dog, She's got that, you know, the walk,

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Speaker 7: Yes, that absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like of its time, Like it's very

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Speaker 1: different to like Catastrophe or Fleabag, but it feels so

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Speaker 1: deeply familiar. I could suspend any criticism or judgment more

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Speaker 1: watching this season than I could in the other two.

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Speaker 3: Because when she was like, this is our end credits,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, yeah, roll credits credits or whatever,

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Speaker 3: and I was like yeah. I also thought during that scene,

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Speaker 3: because she goes and he gets her in the vand

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Speaker 3: to go on Scout locations, which was just an interesting

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Speaker 3: thing to watch. I think when she got all dressed

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Speaker 3: up for lunch, I thought, maybe that's why I could

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Speaker 3: never live in New York, ause I would hate to

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Speaker 3: have to get dressed up for lunch too, super dressed

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Speaker 3: up for fancy lunch is not my idea of a

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Speaker 3: good time.

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Speaker 2: I'm so okay, what do we think? Episode one was

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Speaker 2: laying the table for what do you think is coming

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Speaker 2: out way.

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama County apart from.

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama, apart from maybe hopefully no or Cringey phone sex.

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Speaker 3: But so we always need singleedom explored. Like dating is

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Speaker 3: where we get our bread and our butter.

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Speaker 5: So the moment we're getting that through Miranda only.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Miranda and now Seema and I think.

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Speaker 7: About to be Carrie carry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to have our marriages and the

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Speaker 3: dynamics of a marriage is always really interesting, which we've

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Speaker 3: got with Charlotte. But like I think the others and

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Speaker 3: also Lisa Todwebs and also Lisa the others. I think

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Speaker 3: we're going to have an arc of Carrie and Aiden,

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Speaker 3: either one of them there's betrayal or something. There's going

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Speaker 3: to be a big journey of that and whether they

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Speaker 3: come back together or not, I'm not sure. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what's going to happen with Miranda. Does she want

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Speaker 3: of long term partner? What do we think she wants?

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Speaker 1: I'm really here for lots of Miranda dating. I like

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Speaker 1: dating sober late crazy women, like, Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: really need those kind of dating stories that can be

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Speaker 1: explored through Miranda and now Seema. What's being laid is

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Speaker 1: a breakup between carrying Aiden. I think what I'm really

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Speaker 1: enjoying about this season so far is its unabashed silliness,

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Speaker 1: the silly hats, the silly plot lines, everybody being larger

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Speaker 1: than life.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it just feels.

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Speaker 2: If we do think that Aden's on the way out,

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Speaker 2: And I think I'm sure you're right here, because as

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Speaker 2: you say, it's boring. Her is the right guy for her, right,

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Speaker 2: she wants one big He was her big love, but

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Speaker 2: most of us didn't like him either.

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Speaker 1: I want to see her with a tech billionaire, just

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Speaker 1: to see what happens.

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Speaker 2: But a younger one fine, because remember when she passed

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Speaker 2: the hot podcast producer at the end of season one

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Speaker 2: didn't last long, but we were like, oh yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I'm like, who could be mister Carrien.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked about the fact that the voiceover came

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Speaker 1: back but in a slightly truncated way, and she also

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Speaker 1: clocked the phrase and just like that, Oh is that

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Speaker 1: going to be a thing? And then at the end

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Speaker 1: she typed, but she sort of typed half a sentence

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Speaker 1: and said half the sentence and then I didn't finish it.

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Speaker 2: Carrie is going to write a book, and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be like a sexy romance book.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I think, And I think we're going to have

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Speaker 5: to hear quite a lot about it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she'll write a like fantasy dragon book.

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Speaker 1: I wanted her to become sort of an influencer, you know,

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Speaker 1: like a Glenn and Doyle.

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Speaker 5: Carrie doesn't understand her Instagram. She's one of the first pictures.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it's been glorious to be reunited. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see what happens in season three.

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Speaker 5: And I'm just like that. It's so much fun.

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Speaker 3: Please let us know. Jump in the Facebook group, tell

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Speaker 3: us what you're thinking, tell us your theories. We can't

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Speaker 3: wait to keep the conversation going.

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Speaker 1: And we'll be back in your ears as usual on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye,