WEBVTT - CANCELLED: Zac "The Jaw Controversy" Efron

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<v Speaker 2>Hello out louders, It is Jesse here, and do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember in twenty twenty four when everyone in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and by everyone in the world, I'm in Holly May

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<v Speaker 2>and I we're talking about the film A Family Affair,

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<v Speaker 2>which starred Zac Efron and Nicole Kidman. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of feelings about this movie. We did a subscriber

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<v Speaker 2>episode on it. We did a segment with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the conversations that people were having. If you missed those conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>we will pop a link in the show notes to

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. But the point is Zac Efron, my twin

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<v Speaker 2>sister Claire and I decided to deep dive into mister

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<v Speaker 2>Ephron his career and yes, all of those rumors about

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<v Speaker 2>his face on our podcast Canceled. Side note, Claire has

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<v Speaker 2>actually met zac Efron and she has a very good story.

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<v Speaker 2>So please enjoy this episode of Canceled, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>lazy girl's guide to all bizarre celebrity cancelations.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy, Hello, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Canceled, the podcast that looks at silly celebrity

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<v Speaker 2>crimes and as science, charges and sentences so we can

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<v Speaker 2>all get on with our lives. I'm Jesse Stevens and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined by Claire Stephens. And Claire, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a lazy girl story for us today? I do it

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<v Speaker 2>as a bit of a personal one, all right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not what happens when you haven't been through the

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<v Speaker 2>well exactly. So we were on holidays recently, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were traveling with an icon mum. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>Mum just had a line which I thought would resonate

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<v Speaker 2>a lot with lazy girls everywhere. She was sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>a couch when we were in the south of France,

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<v Speaker 2>and she had a book in front of her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said I could read, I want to read, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I prefer to be on TikTok. And I just thought, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, isn't it. That's it. It's it, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just about reading, it's about work. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot I got. I could be working, but I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather be on but I'd rather be on TikTok. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, it's just one of those moments where somebody

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<v Speaker 2>says the unsaid, she's a lazy girl. There is something

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<v Speaker 2>really liberating about the other day. You know. I found

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<v Speaker 2>myself with an hour and I thought, could exercise, could

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<v Speaker 2>do laundry. How has messy got work to do? And

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<v Speaker 2>I found myself intentionally walking towards my bedroom, getting into

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<v Speaker 2>my bed and going, we're gonna have some TikTok to

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<v Speaker 2>uninterrupted TikTok time. There was a meme going around that

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, what's your bed time routine? These are

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<v Speaker 2>the nine evidence based things that I've built into my routine.

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<v Speaker 2>I followed the perfect nighttime routine. Welcome to my night routine. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's ninety minutes of TikTok. Yeah, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen minutes before I'm gonna go to sleep. I get

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<v Speaker 2>up my phone and I start to scroll, and I

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<v Speaker 2>lose myself and any sense of time. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I always say I'm not a routine person. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>do routine. Well, the one part of my routine that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't labor it's before bed hours and I'm talking our hours. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone says, oh, You've got time to excite. No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm busy. I don't have time. Well, because I got TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Time very important, always and sacred.

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<v Speaker 4>You are about to enter the canceled courtroom. The defendants

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<v Speaker 4>are celebrities, the chargers are petty. The rulings are final.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're talking about zach Efron.

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<v Speaker 4>This could be the start of something news. What a

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<v Speaker 4>weird right, stars, Maybe the world could be.

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<v Speaker 2>I just woke up and fucking jailed with a budget

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<v Speaker 2>penises on my forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>Frost before hose, right, yeah, man, junk before truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Zachary David Alexander E. Froch. Such a hot night, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I challenge you to have another first name. Was born

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty seven in California. In high school, Efron

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<v Speaker 2>described himself as having been the class clown I believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>and there he started singing lessons. He started acting in

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<v Speaker 2>the early two thousands, and one of his first roles

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the greatest medical dramas of all time. Er,

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<v Speaker 2>here are some irrelevant and blurry images. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>he's on the tables. And then the second image is

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<v Speaker 2>him with the doctor from are Yeah, they have recently

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<v Speaker 2>reunited in the Iron Core because she was the mother

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<v Speaker 2>in the Iron Clare. I know it's Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>because in Iron Clare I was like, where do I

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<v Speaker 2>know that woman. The turning point for zac Efron came

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and six with a teen musical television

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<v Speaker 2>film called High School Musical. This Something It Feels. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a controversy there, which we will get to. He

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<v Speaker 2>then starred in Hairspray before doing High School Musical two,

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<v Speaker 2>followed by I've Seen Every Zach Efron movie, No, followed

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<v Speaker 2>by a High School Musical.

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<v Speaker 3>Three, My Problem Is Wherever you Are.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of his other movies include Bad Neighbors, You've Seen Bad, Bad, Number, too.

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<v Speaker 4>You've seen that we are going to end the year

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<v Speaker 4>with the most legendary rager of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking even bigger than last year's White Trash Bash.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen Baywatch? Yeah? Oh yes, I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>bay Watch is an excellent film. Really, I never watched it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>The Greatest Showman. You've watched that? Most recently The Iron Claw.

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<v Speaker 2>You've watched that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever since I was a child, people said my family

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<v Speaker 3>was cursed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm trying to protect us with God tried to

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<v Speaker 2>protect us with wrestling. And have you seen a family affair?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that brand new? Yeah? You haven't seen on my Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Y haven't say it yet? Okay, no, have not seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't animated films because we talk about an animated

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<v Speaker 2>film with Zaki from but like you definitely haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>that something you failed to mention. Sorry, are you getting

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<v Speaker 2>to it? What? Yes? Okay, shut up? Wait me meeting him?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the next I couldn't give it in anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get into it, Claire, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that you haven't heard any experiences that

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<v Speaker 2>may prejudice the jury, like say, having met zach Efron

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<v Speaker 2>or anything of that. I reckon. I've mentioned it on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast close through one hundred times. I did interview

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<v Speaker 2>zac Efron as gut he was doing greatest Showman. I

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed zach Efron and Zendia. Zach Efron is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most beautiful people I've ever sat opposite. Elaborate it's

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<v Speaker 2>his eyes for me. And I went in and the

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<v Speaker 2>eye contact, you know those people who they say like

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<v Speaker 2>they have like a real presence, and eye contact did

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<v Speaker 2>not take his eyes off me to the point what

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<v Speaker 2>I walked out thinking, there's a love story that just

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<v Speaker 2>blossomed between us. I didn't hear from him in the aftermath,

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<v Speaker 2>so you thought he was very charismatic, very charismatic, funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find the video on YouTube. Do you know, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we should reach out the video because speaking of lazy girl,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that I never got my head around. I

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<v Speaker 2>still don't get my head around. I'm quite oily in

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<v Speaker 2>the face. Yeah, And it was a hot summer's day

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<v Speaker 2>and I was nervous, and I went in and I

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<v Speaker 2>did this interview and it looks like my face is dripping.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the worst sucks because he would Ron and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the worst because that clip went viral because some fan

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<v Speaker 2>clipped it to say there was a moment of chemistry

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<v Speaker 2>between Sendaya and between clearly the chemistry between me and him.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen the video of the body slam. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have any just really cringe worthy, embarrassing moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things about being a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the musicals, that's you aren't ashamed of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something goes wrong, you have to get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>the fear of looking stupid. Yeah, exactly, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>live that way, you seriously will never get anything accomplished.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's literally got millions of views, and there I

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<v Speaker 2>am with the wettest face you do you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Even my friends messaged me being like, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>put some powder on? And I was like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know. I was in a rush. I was in

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<v Speaker 2>a rush. I was stressed. I was concentrating on my questions.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I've said on this podcast before, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>zac Efron all the vibes, Ndaya not as much. Only

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<v Speaker 2>she was very young and she was on her phone.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on her phone. You didn't lie that where is Zach?

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<v Speaker 2>And you were like, who even is a next minute

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<v Speaker 2>next minute embarrassing. I like zac Efrom because I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's sexy when he dances, and I thoroughly enjoyed The

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<v Speaker 2>Greatest Showman. I also think he's funny. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>real laugh and bad neighbors. Did you know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually just called neighbors? Yes in America. Yeah, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>fun guy, and I get that sense that he'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a real fun person to her sense of him. My

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<v Speaker 2>structure for today is as follows, High School Musical and

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<v Speaker 2>an Awkward Truth, a condom and a red carpet, an

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<v Speaker 2>altercation with a homeless man, the film New Year's Eve,

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<v Speaker 2>making the worst serial killer of all time, sexually arousing,

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<v Speaker 2>and finally face high School Musical and an Awkward Truth.

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<v Speaker 2>In January two thousand and six, High School Musical debuts

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<v Speaker 2>on the Disney Channel, and many say it's a modern

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<v Speaker 2>adaptation of Romeo and Juliet Ah. The film became an

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<v Speaker 2>enormous success with these young people with their singing and

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<v Speaker 2>they're dancing. I remember I was sick one time and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what I'm gonna do. Watch

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<v Speaker 2>a high school musical and it's great. It was really great.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never watched it. It's the music for me. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not zac Efron's voice. What that's Drew's voice, which

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<v Speaker 2>begs the question, who the fuck is Drew? Drew, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>not Zach's voice. Drew Seeley is a lovely young man

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<v Speaker 2>who loves to sing. He's been in some musicals and

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<v Speaker 2>some television and movies. But Zac everyone can sing. Zac

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<v Speaker 2>Efron can sing, So why didn't they use his voice? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting okay. Sorry, I'm just Okayron said later in

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<v Speaker 2>an interview in the first movie, after everything was recorded,

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<v Speaker 2>my voice was not on them. I was not really

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<v Speaker 2>given explanation. It just kind of happened that way. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>it put me in an awkward position. It's not something

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<v Speaker 2>I expected to be addressed. Then high school musical blew up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very fortunate that Drew has gotten proper credit, and

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<v Speaker 2>also that I've gotten the opportunity to come back and

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<v Speaker 2>try it again with my own voice. He's very talented.

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<v Speaker 2>I consider myself a regular kid that can carry a tune.

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<v Speaker 2>The party line is that Efron is a baritone. Baritone

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<v Speaker 2>is quite low. Yeah, and all of Troy Bolton's songs

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<v Speaker 2>I've written for TENA, which is high. Yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>so Efron couldn't hit those notes. What's cruel is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Drew tried out and he missed it. Yeah, Drew's pretty proud.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read some interviews with Drew and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say that when I went to Drew's Wikipedia, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>being mean, but his most recent achievements are like web series,

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<v Speaker 2>So I just don't feel like he's Dak Cavron. He did, though,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll have, you know, help with the lyrics for

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<v Speaker 2>get your Head in the game the game. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I went and looked up lyrics he gets to. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very get you in the game. It's very gets your head.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gets your head in the game. I gotta I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get my head in the game. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>he helped with the lyrics get your head in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he changed it from get your head in the

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<v Speaker 2>game to get you because that is it's officially gets

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<v Speaker 2>your head in the game. And it was I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was nominated for an Emmy or something. Oh wow, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew saying it. Efron did sing in the next two movies.

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<v Speaker 2>There's ship between Fron and Drew. I'll say that there's

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<v Speaker 2>tension because Drew's like, well, I didn't see Efron a

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<v Speaker 2>lot because I was there when he wasn't there make

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<v Speaker 2>that lip sincing so good? I know it's not not

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. So it happened during the Olympics, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was like this person who was like the voice of

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympics when it was in China, and she was remarkable,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't her voice. She had like star power,

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<v Speaker 2>but she didn't have the chops to pull it off.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's so remarkable about saying Nicki Webster is that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she was Nicky Webster and plus vocals. And

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<v Speaker 2>with Zach, I think Drew was a few years older

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and so he was like, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>looked weird next to Vanessa Hudgens, And I'm like, yeah,

0:13:23.487 --> 0:13:27.127
<v Speaker 2>that's maybe what all. Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Efron drew.

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<v Speaker 2>A condom and a red carpet. It's twenty twelve and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four year old Zac Efron is on the red

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<v Speaker 2>carpet for the premiere of his film Claire. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen this the Lorax? No is that animated?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, that's why because I sorry, I'm gonna need

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<v Speaker 2>to see Yeah, I'm going to the movie's to see him.

0:13:54.607 --> 0:13:56.887
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna need to see you. Yeah, And as an aside,

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<v Speaker 2>in that movie, he lends his voice to a twelve

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<v Speaker 2>year old, so he's kind of playing a twelve year old,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>So, mom, do you happen to know if there's like

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<v Speaker 4>any place where I could get a real tree?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, he's trying to pose with his hands in his pockets.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got like a cool pose and like sunglasses on

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. He's looking good. Skinny Jean's absolutely height of

0:14:17.887 --> 0:14:20.567
<v Speaker 2>the Skinny Jean's moment, and he can't quite fitty his

0:14:20.607 --> 0:14:23.567
<v Speaker 2>hands him. I was gonna say out loud, probably because

0:14:23.567 --> 0:14:26.207
<v Speaker 2>he has a big dick, but I decided against it.

0:14:27.607 --> 0:14:29.407
<v Speaker 2>So do you think he'd have a big dick? I

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<v Speaker 2>think he'd have a lovely love would be lovely. But

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<v Speaker 2>his pants, Yeah, there's just a lot going on, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what. Rather than that, I think it's actually got

0:14:37.807 --> 0:14:39.927
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful bottom. He's got a booty. Yeah, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a booty. So he can't get his hands in, so

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<v Speaker 2>he empties his pockets and he kind of goes and

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<v Speaker 2>gives it to the usher, like, oh, I should just

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<v Speaker 2>take outlets in my pockets. And as he does that,

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<v Speaker 2>something falls out onto the orange carpet and it is

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<v Speaker 2>a silver like an aluminium square, and it is a

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<v Speaker 2>condom or as Americans say, condom, a condom, a condom.

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<v Speaker 2>The condom drop happened with this movie poster in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>Please describe the movie poster. Doctor zeuses the law axe

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like it's it's from the creators of Despicable Media,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's clearly for children. Is for children, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a children's movie and their twelve year old

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<v Speaker 2>had just dropped a condom mmmm, of the orange so

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<v Speaker 2>that he didn't catch chlamydia. I would assume this is irrelevant,

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<v Speaker 2>that is it. There was someone else who voiced in

0:15:32.007 --> 0:15:34.327
<v Speaker 2>that film, and it was Taylor Swift, And all I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying is that when he had a condom in his pocket, mmm,

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<v Speaker 2>who was he going to use it on? Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>so my theory here that was one hundred percent a

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<v Speaker 2>pr stunt. Claire actually brought the video to show you

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<v Speaker 2>because I want you to tell me whether you think

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<v Speaker 2>this is on purpose or not, because the more I

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<v Speaker 2>watch it, the more I think it is genuinely an accident. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, because it's very hard to act taking things

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<v Speaker 2>out of your pocket and just dropping one of the

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<v Speaker 2>thanks here we go so we can see him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just on the red carpet. He's then like, al right,

0:16:08.927 --> 0:16:10.367
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get these things. And I got some

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<v Speaker 2>wet receipts, maybe some lip bum, maybe a coin or two.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's handing it to the usher and something's just

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<v Speaker 2>strapped on the floor. He's very quickly picked it up,

0:16:18.607 --> 0:16:20.527
<v Speaker 2>put it back in his pocket and needs that. And

0:16:20.607 --> 0:16:25.367
<v Speaker 2>now he is mortified. He's putting sunglasses on, he's breathing deeply,

0:16:25.927 --> 0:16:28.607
<v Speaker 2>he's covering his mouth, he's looking the other way and laughing.

0:16:29.487 --> 0:16:31.727
<v Speaker 2>He is and I do think he's a brilliant actor.

0:16:32.527 --> 0:16:35.247
<v Speaker 2>But that is an A grade. I guess you could

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<v Speaker 2>interpret it either way. I mean, oh, I think it

0:16:38.847 --> 0:16:43.727
<v Speaker 2>didn't hurt his career. Let's just say that, because he's like, I,

0:16:44.487 --> 0:16:47.207
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's very I have sex. Okay. That's what

0:16:47.247 --> 0:16:48.927
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say. Is you know when you're young,

0:16:49.367 --> 0:16:53.767
<v Speaker 2>like in high school, and everyone's like, oh no, my

0:16:53.767 --> 0:16:56.167
<v Speaker 2>my condoms are falling out of my wallet. Yeah, and

0:16:56.207 --> 0:16:59.927
<v Speaker 2>it's like okay, even no answer, and you're obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>your own erect paints. It's very that, which is weird

0:17:03.967 --> 0:17:07.207
<v Speaker 2>because he's twenty four, Like that's a little bit old. Yeah,

0:17:07.247 --> 0:17:08.927
<v Speaker 2>but it's very when you're sitting around with your friends

0:17:08.967 --> 0:17:13.367
<v Speaker 2>and everyone's like, let's plea leg Never have I ever's threesome?

0:17:13.527 --> 0:17:15.127
<v Speaker 3>I have? Like it's that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very that. So after the law Axe, he went

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<v Speaker 2>on to play roles where he was actually an adult,

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<v Speaker 2>like The Lucky One and Bad Neighbors. I've seen the

0:17:24.647 --> 0:17:29.407
<v Speaker 2>Lucky One is excellent. He returns from war. I believe

0:17:29.447 --> 0:17:31.247
<v Speaker 2>that's a Nicklas bar and okay, you know who's in

0:17:31.287 --> 0:17:33.487
<v Speaker 2>the Lucky One is the woman who ended up being

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<v Speaker 2>the main woman. You know? Interesting, well said, So the

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<v Speaker 2>question is in this was he saying I need condoms

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<v Speaker 2>because I use my penis sexually. I'm an adult man

0:17:44.207 --> 0:17:46.887
<v Speaker 2>with an erection. Yeah? Is that what I represent? And

0:17:47.007 --> 0:17:49.087
<v Speaker 2>I reckon it was very like, I'm not a Disney

0:17:49.087 --> 0:17:53.447
<v Speaker 2>star anymore. Yeah, see I did a condom. What do

0:17:53.447 --> 0:17:58.887
<v Speaker 2>you use condoms for? My dig nice an altercation with

0:17:58.927 --> 0:18:01.087
<v Speaker 2>a homeless man. There comes a point in every Disney

0:18:01.087 --> 0:18:03.327
<v Speaker 2>star's career where they have an altercation with a home

0:18:04.807 --> 0:18:09.967
<v Speaker 2>In twenty fourteen, Efron reached that moment. So he's in

0:18:10.007 --> 0:18:12.567
<v Speaker 2>the skid Row area of Los Angeles. Yep. I've seen

0:18:12.567 --> 0:18:14.767
<v Speaker 2>that on keeping up with the car. It has one

0:18:14.807 --> 0:18:17.447
<v Speaker 2>of the largest stable populations of homeless people in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>and the police are called. They have one story. Efron

0:18:20.767 --> 0:18:23.047
<v Speaker 2>has a slightly different one. I'll start with the police.

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<v Speaker 2>The police reported that the fight started after midnight when

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<v Speaker 2>Efron threw a bottle out of the window of his car,

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<v Speaker 2>which shattered right near a group of homeless people. Efron

0:18:32.007 --> 0:18:35.487
<v Speaker 2>was ultimately punched in the face, and police found him

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<v Speaker 2>and his bodyguard fighting with several homeless men under an overpass.

0:18:39.447 --> 0:18:42.647
<v Speaker 2>No one was arrested because it was considered mutual combat,

0:18:42.967 --> 0:18:47.047
<v Speaker 2>and one source described Efron as heavily intoxicated. Efron says

0:18:47.087 --> 0:18:49.087
<v Speaker 2>him and a friend were searching for something to eat

0:18:49.287 --> 0:18:51.967
<v Speaker 2>downtown and they ran out of petrol, so he had

0:18:52.007 --> 0:18:54.927
<v Speaker 2>to pull over. He said, a homeless guy or vagrant

0:18:55.047 --> 0:18:57.927
<v Speaker 2>tapped on the driver's side window. Before I knew it,

0:18:57.927 --> 0:19:00.207
<v Speaker 2>my friend was out of the car. They started fighting.

0:19:01.287 --> 0:19:03.327
<v Speaker 2>I saw the homeless man was carrying some sort of

0:19:03.367 --> 0:19:05.167
<v Speaker 2>knife or shank, and I got out of the car

0:19:05.247 --> 0:19:07.487
<v Speaker 2>to disarm him. He said that being punched in the

0:19:07.487 --> 0:19:11.207
<v Speaker 2>face was the most terrifying moment in his life. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>it was around this time that Efron decided to get

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<v Speaker 2>sober and he completed a stint in rehabs the drug

0:19:16.527 --> 0:19:20.047
<v Speaker 2>and alcohol abuse interested. I did not know that. Yeah, Yeah,

0:19:20.087 --> 0:19:21.887
<v Speaker 2>he kind of disappeared for a little while, and he's

0:19:21.927 --> 0:19:25.527
<v Speaker 2>spoken a fair bit about it, like how all the

0:19:25.527 --> 0:19:29.487
<v Speaker 2>things that you get offered and struggling with addiction and

0:19:29.567 --> 0:19:31.247
<v Speaker 2>going to AA and that sort of thing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>happy with that story. I don't believe that you just

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<v Speaker 2>happened to run out of petrol in front of a

0:19:36.527 --> 0:19:39.447
<v Speaker 2>homeless person. I think he went to start a fight

0:19:40.047 --> 0:19:43.247
<v Speaker 2>or somebody he was with. My thing is always, oh, okay,

0:19:43.367 --> 0:19:45.327
<v Speaker 2>we pulled over to get something to eat. What was

0:19:45.327 --> 0:19:48.807
<v Speaker 2>after midnight? Had you donner? Yeah? You go through drive

0:19:48.807 --> 0:19:51.727
<v Speaker 2>through macas after midnight? Everyone knows that. Yeah, like what

0:19:51.727 --> 0:19:53.647
<v Speaker 2>we're looking for. And he's like, oh, we couldn't find

0:19:53.647 --> 0:19:56.487
<v Speaker 2>somewhere to eat the mate, it's twelve thirty. Yeah, everyone's closed.

0:19:56.527 --> 0:19:59.607
<v Speaker 2>Let at you watch go home and have some toast. Yeah,

0:19:59.767 --> 0:20:03.207
<v Speaker 2>like everyone else. The film New Year's Eve. We've spoken

0:20:03.247 --> 0:20:05.807
<v Speaker 2>at length on this podcast about the twenty ten film

0:20:05.927 --> 0:20:10.687
<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day. It famously starred every Jennifer and Hollywood two

0:20:10.847 --> 0:20:15.167
<v Speaker 2>Jessica's a Julia, two tailors. I could go on, but

0:20:15.407 --> 0:20:18.487
<v Speaker 2>so New Year's Eve. What we haven't spoken about enough

0:20:18.567 --> 0:20:22.927
<v Speaker 2>is the poor cousin of Valentine's Day, Bradley Cooper Bradley

0:20:22.927 --> 0:20:28.647
<v Speaker 2>Cooper twenty eleventh film, utilizing the exact same formula by

0:20:28.687 --> 0:20:30.887
<v Speaker 2>this point, to the extent to which everyone just wanted

0:20:30.927 --> 0:20:35.007
<v Speaker 2>to make love actually, but no one could. No Americans couldn't. No, no, no, no,

0:20:35.167 --> 0:20:37.687
<v Speaker 2>Can you just throw another name that was in Year's eight?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah?

0:20:39.847 --> 0:20:45.527
<v Speaker 2>Who just can you remember? It's a real strange mishmatch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that. That's what I mean. That's why

0:20:47.927 --> 0:20:51.367
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of hard, because by this point I think

0:20:51.407 --> 0:20:56.527
<v Speaker 2>the actors in Valentine's Day had realized Jennifer Garner, no that,

0:20:59.007 --> 0:21:01.087
<v Speaker 2>I think the actors in Valentine's Day had realized that

0:21:01.167 --> 0:21:03.847
<v Speaker 2>something terrible had happened, and they refused to ever work

0:21:03.847 --> 0:21:06.927
<v Speaker 2>on a project again that claimed to be like love

0:21:06.967 --> 0:21:10.687
<v Speaker 2>actually but actually because of Valentine's Date, sat around a

0:21:10.727 --> 0:21:14.447
<v Speaker 2>table and said, through Britchard teeth, there are some actors

0:21:14.527 --> 0:21:19.847
<v Speaker 2>left there are some did any crossover? Yeah? Okay, and

0:21:19.927 --> 0:21:23.207
<v Speaker 2>so came near ef two actors crossed over. I'll show

0:21:23.247 --> 0:21:25.247
<v Speaker 2>you this image. Just start yelling out and I guess

0:21:25.247 --> 0:21:26.887
<v Speaker 2>who crossed over, and then you have to tell me

0:21:26.927 --> 0:21:29.687
<v Speaker 2>who crossed over. Okay. So New's Eve has Jessica Biel

0:21:29.807 --> 0:21:33.447
<v Speaker 2>did she do that? Yeah, yep, okay. We've got Sarah

0:21:33.567 --> 0:21:37.487
<v Speaker 2>just car Parker, yeah, uh, Catherine Heigel interesting, she was

0:21:37.487 --> 0:21:42.327
<v Speaker 2>picking up scraps. Ashton cicture. Some of them I can't name,

0:21:42.327 --> 0:21:45.687
<v Speaker 2>I just know their faces. You got a Hillary Swang,

0:21:45.847 --> 0:21:51.207
<v Speaker 2>Robert de nirot, Josh dem he was with the chick

0:21:51.207 --> 0:21:53.887
<v Speaker 2>from the Black Eyed Peas for a moment. Who else

0:21:54.287 --> 0:22:01.487
<v Speaker 2>Liam Michelle, Hillary Swank? Perhaps? Who else crossed over Ashton?

0:22:02.727 --> 0:22:05.127
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay and right in the middle

0:22:05.527 --> 0:22:08.767
<v Speaker 2>that game backy boy. Yeah. The plot is that it

0:22:08.807 --> 0:22:11.407
<v Speaker 2>follows several couples and singles in New York City over

0:22:11.407 --> 0:22:13.447
<v Speaker 2>the course of New Year's Age. I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>IMDb page and it said award nominations, so I clicked

0:22:18.887 --> 0:22:26.007
<v Speaker 2>read the award of nominations. Worst Actress Sarah Teska Parker,

0:22:26.207 --> 0:22:31.847
<v Speaker 2>Worst Director, Gary Marshall, Worst ensemble the entire cast, Worst

0:22:31.887 --> 0:22:37.527
<v Speaker 2>picture and worst screenplay. Yeah, how an achievement, Claire. The

0:22:37.527 --> 0:22:41.127
<v Speaker 2>film is terrible and I loved every minute. I actually

0:22:41.167 --> 0:22:43.727
<v Speaker 2>think and I will die on this hill. That front

0:22:44.167 --> 0:22:47.207
<v Speaker 2>was a standout. Yeah. Can you remember the best scene

0:22:47.207 --> 0:22:50.287
<v Speaker 2>in the movie. You can, you can, it's just below

0:22:50.327 --> 0:22:52.607
<v Speaker 2>the surface. Sorry, I was just thinking about the other

0:22:55.127 --> 0:23:01.087
<v Speaker 2>which is excellent. I'm sorry, but he picks excellent films,

0:23:01.247 --> 0:23:03.647
<v Speaker 2>excellent film, great mixture. I remember watching that movie and

0:23:03.727 --> 0:23:06.047
<v Speaker 2>being like, you really captured like a relation, Like there's

0:23:06.047 --> 0:23:09.327
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of funny. After the movie ends and

0:23:09.367 --> 0:23:12.407
<v Speaker 2>the credits roll, we just get to watch Zach dancing.

0:23:12.527 --> 0:23:17.327
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember this? He kisses Michelle Feiffer? How are

0:23:17.327 --> 0:23:24.727
<v Speaker 2>you doing? Twice your age? Final resolution? Didn't I kiss on?

0:23:24.847 --> 0:23:25.527
<v Speaker 4>Who you see?

0:23:26.647 --> 0:23:27.287
<v Speaker 2>Check it off?

0:23:27.767 --> 0:23:28.247
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:23:28.287 --> 0:23:29.967
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to mention is in it, which just says

0:23:29.967 --> 0:23:33.807
<v Speaker 2>everything about the cast. Share the poster. You know it's

0:23:33.807 --> 0:23:36.207
<v Speaker 2>a big movie, when oh, yeah it is. No, she

0:23:36.327 --> 0:23:37.887
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look okay, yeah yeah. And there's a lot of

0:23:37.887 --> 0:23:40.647
<v Speaker 2>people that are vaguely famous, so I don't know the name. Yeah, yeah,

0:23:40.687 --> 0:23:45.327
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna shaw this thing. Okay, yeah, I forgot yes, yes, yes, yes, okay,

0:23:45.887 --> 0:23:49.487
<v Speaker 2>right right, turn off the lights. We're gonna lose ours night.

0:23:49.687 --> 0:23:55.887
<v Speaker 2>What's the dearly top me to me feeling okay. The

0:23:55.967 --> 0:24:00.847
<v Speaker 2>thing about zach Efron dancing is he commits, ah, he

0:24:00.967 --> 0:24:04.967
<v Speaker 2>commits a hundred and a million percent and he goes

0:24:05.047 --> 0:24:07.087
<v Speaker 2>such a good dance. This is a routine and you

0:24:07.127 --> 0:24:09.727
<v Speaker 2>can actually imagine him in the club. You can imagine

0:24:09.767 --> 0:24:11.647
<v Speaker 2>him in the club. He dances like Travis Kelcey be

0:24:11.687 --> 0:24:15.087
<v Speaker 2>the hottest person club. In fact, in Iron Clare, did

0:24:15.127 --> 0:24:16.847
<v Speaker 2>you notice that there's a scene where he dances at

0:24:16.887 --> 0:24:28.087
<v Speaker 2>his wedding and it's just fifteen seconds his contract, He's on,

0:24:28.567 --> 0:24:32.647
<v Speaker 2>I'm a great dancer. So in every contract for every

0:24:32.807 --> 0:24:36.447
<v Speaker 2>movie there has to be a dance break. It stole

0:24:36.487 --> 0:24:39.727
<v Speaker 2>the film for him, so everyone leaves going terrible film,

0:24:39.767 --> 0:24:42.727
<v Speaker 2>great dance. I really liked that Raise a glass, Yes,

0:24:42.887 --> 0:24:45.407
<v Speaker 2>that was fun. That was fun at the end, and

0:24:45.447 --> 0:24:47.607
<v Speaker 2>it goes through the whole cast and it's like and

0:24:47.647 --> 0:24:50.047
<v Speaker 2>Michelle fire for is like, you know, over the age

0:24:50.047 --> 0:24:53.207
<v Speaker 2>of forty, so she's basically got a walking stick. Then

0:24:53.327 --> 0:24:55.807
<v Speaker 2>it's like, how lucky is she that Zack Efron is

0:24:55.807 --> 0:24:58.807
<v Speaker 2>doing a jig in front of her and so sexy.

0:24:58.927 --> 0:25:00.527
<v Speaker 2>It was just a high for him because he wasn't

0:25:00.527 --> 0:25:03.607
<v Speaker 2>playing a four year old, his voice isn't dubbed, he

0:25:03.687 --> 0:25:07.167
<v Speaker 2>wasn't dropping a condoct making the worst serial killer of

0:25:07.207 --> 0:25:11.367
<v Speaker 2>all time. Arousing Keefron is hot, beautiful, sexy, and as

0:25:11.367 --> 0:25:16.567
<v Speaker 2>aforementioned arousing. Ted Bundy was an American serial killer who kidnapped, raped,

0:25:16.607 --> 0:25:18.767
<v Speaker 2>and murdered dozens of young women and girls in the

0:25:18.847 --> 0:25:22.367
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies. He confessed to thirty murders, but the true

0:25:22.447 --> 0:25:26.927
<v Speaker 2>number is not known, and in twenty nineteen, director Joe Berlinger,

0:25:27.127 --> 0:25:31.567
<v Speaker 2>who is fascinated by Bundy, released a film called Extremely Wicked,

0:25:31.687 --> 0:25:35.367
<v Speaker 2>Shockingly Evil, and Vile, starring zac Efron as a serial killer.

0:25:35.407 --> 0:25:37.487
<v Speaker 2>It took me over a decade to look at this pho.

0:25:37.567 --> 0:25:42.567
<v Speaker 2>Now what happened to her head?

0:25:44.047 --> 0:25:48.007
<v Speaker 1>She was still positive in the woods to animals could

0:25:48.047 --> 0:25:51.807
<v Speaker 1>have conceivably done something like animals don't do that.

0:25:52.527 --> 0:25:56.367
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a bad guy seeing it saying it. Efron

0:25:56.487 --> 0:25:59.047
<v Speaker 2>was also a producer. Talk to me about it because

0:25:59.047 --> 0:26:01.367
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it. Actually, you haven't seen it. No,

0:26:01.727 --> 0:26:07.647
<v Speaker 2>you've actually seen it every day every day. No, it's good. Well,

0:26:07.887 --> 0:26:10.207
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of criticism. You recall the criticism

0:26:10.247 --> 0:26:12.967
<v Speaker 2>at the time No, that was everywhere, I remember, everywhere

0:26:13.007 --> 0:26:15.047
<v Speaker 2>wrote an opinion piece, and it was summed up by

0:26:15.087 --> 0:26:18.607
<v Speaker 2>the Washington Post, who said the film failed to distance

0:26:18.647 --> 0:26:22.447
<v Speaker 2>itself from the glorification of Bundy. The point was, according

0:26:22.447 --> 0:26:25.287
<v Speaker 2>to critics, that Bundy was hot, so no one could

0:26:25.327 --> 0:26:27.647
<v Speaker 2>believe he would be capable of such a barrn crime.

0:26:27.807 --> 0:26:31.287
<v Speaker 2>But like, yes, and that was the vibe of the film,

0:26:31.327 --> 0:26:33.527
<v Speaker 2>but that was also the vibe of Ted Bundy in

0:26:33.607 --> 0:26:36.647
<v Speaker 2>real life. Yes, But their point was that the film

0:26:36.767 --> 0:26:40.007
<v Speaker 2>was therefore unable to do justice to the sheer volume

0:26:40.047 --> 0:26:42.287
<v Speaker 2>of horror, and that the fact he was hot in

0:26:42.367 --> 0:26:44.167
<v Speaker 2>ordinary and blah blah blah, it was like the dominant

0:26:44.247 --> 0:26:47.207
<v Speaker 2>narrative at the time. It was like it was broadcast

0:26:47.247 --> 0:26:49.007
<v Speaker 2>and all these women were looking at it, going, look,

0:26:49.047 --> 0:26:51.247
<v Speaker 2>he's gorgeous, blah blah blah. It's like you're telling the

0:26:51.287 --> 0:26:56.247
<v Speaker 2>same story we've already heard. Rather than doing any justice

0:26:56.287 --> 0:26:58.847
<v Speaker 2>to any of his victims, I know what they mean,

0:26:58.967 --> 0:27:01.967
<v Speaker 2>we moved past him. Yeah. Efron's performance was criticized because

0:27:01.967 --> 0:27:04.607
<v Speaker 2>he didn't possess the malice required and it sort of

0:27:05.207 --> 0:27:08.567
<v Speaker 2>just perpetuated the stereotypes that the press did during the Yeah,

0:27:08.647 --> 0:27:11.447
<v Speaker 2>like he got the whole part right. Yeah. But actually,

0:27:11.767 --> 0:27:14.847
<v Speaker 2>even even when I think about it, I don't even

0:27:14.887 --> 0:27:18.247
<v Speaker 2>know if they showed the violence and the horror. No,

0:27:18.327 --> 0:27:19.847
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they did. No, it was more like

0:27:19.887 --> 0:27:21.647
<v Speaker 2>he's a normal guy who lives with his wife. I

0:27:21.687 --> 0:27:24.447
<v Speaker 2>see dick part. Yeah, if you had a relative that

0:27:24.527 --> 0:27:27.007
<v Speaker 2>was killed by Ted Bundy, you'd be few, you'd be like, Yeah,

0:27:27.207 --> 0:27:29.647
<v Speaker 2>it was very like he's a new heart throat film.

0:27:29.767 --> 0:27:31.927
<v Speaker 2>By the way, beat dubs it's Ted Bundy.

0:27:32.127 --> 0:27:32.647
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:32.967 --> 0:27:37.647
<v Speaker 2>Read this tweet. It's a picture of zac Efron. Look,

0:27:37.767 --> 0:27:39.647
<v Speaker 2>I actually didn't think he was his hottest in this

0:27:40.647 --> 0:27:42.847
<v Speaker 2>he was playing Ted Bundy. No, no, but it just

0:27:43.007 --> 0:27:46.087
<v Speaker 2>wasn't really his style. Like his hair was like curled

0:27:46.127 --> 0:27:48.407
<v Speaker 2>and he had bow ties and stuff. It's a tweet

0:27:48.447 --> 0:27:51.007
<v Speaker 2>that says, Hi, I'm Ted Bundy and you're watching Disney Toad.

0:27:51.247 --> 0:27:55.047
<v Speaker 2>It's a confusing pivot. It's a confusing pivot. This very

0:27:55.167 --> 0:27:58.767
<v Speaker 2>much is what the vibe was. Read that tweet, I

0:27:58.767 --> 0:28:00.847
<v Speaker 2>feel so bad for the families of the victims that

0:28:00.887 --> 0:28:03.327
<v Speaker 2>have to sit there and see their terrors revived as

0:28:03.327 --> 0:28:06.927
<v Speaker 2>a witty, romantic thriller. Yeah, and then read this tweet

0:28:06.967 --> 0:28:10.687
<v Speaker 2>down the bottom Ted Bundy rapes murders and estimated one

0:28:10.767 --> 0:28:13.527
<v Speaker 2>hundred sex workers and child Y're but we need to

0:28:13.527 --> 0:28:15.607
<v Speaker 2>see his charismatic side. Oh my god. Plus he was

0:28:15.607 --> 0:28:19.527
<v Speaker 2>so hot. Yeah, okay that and look I looked at

0:28:19.567 --> 0:28:23.247
<v Speaker 2>images of zac Efron next to Ted Bundy, and I

0:28:23.287 --> 0:28:25.407
<v Speaker 2>know it isn't the point of the podcast, but it's

0:28:25.527 --> 0:28:30.007
<v Speaker 2>just just Ted Bundy wasn't hot. Absolutely no resemblance. I mean,

0:28:30.087 --> 0:28:34.047
<v Speaker 2>but then again, that happens with like generations, I know,

0:28:34.207 --> 0:28:36.407
<v Speaker 2>but I just think we've really over egged how hot

0:28:36.447 --> 0:28:39.607
<v Speaker 2>Ted Bundy wash. I've often thought that. Anyway, I sort

0:28:39.607 --> 0:28:41.607
<v Speaker 2>of agree with you that Twitter missed the point a

0:28:41.647 --> 0:28:44.407
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Like the film was obviously meant to contrast

0:28:44.447 --> 0:28:47.167
<v Speaker 2>the charisma and the ordinariness with what the guy did.

0:28:47.687 --> 0:28:50.927
<v Speaker 2>And zac Efron was a producer, so he knew what

0:28:51.047 --> 0:28:53.767
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to do, and obviously it was a

0:28:53.807 --> 0:28:57.087
<v Speaker 2>career pivot he was stepping out of, like you know,

0:28:57.247 --> 0:29:01.367
<v Speaker 2>he'd done New Year's Eve, Yeah, and he needed to

0:29:01.407 --> 0:29:03.407
<v Speaker 2>go and he done game. I'm going to be a

0:29:03.447 --> 0:29:07.527
<v Speaker 2>serious actor. Yeah, who should I play Ted Bundy? Yeah,

0:29:07.567 --> 0:29:09.167
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to play ten and so but we've kind

0:29:09.167 --> 0:29:12.287
<v Speaker 2>of but the problem is that he was too sexy,

0:29:12.527 --> 0:29:15.487
<v Speaker 2>which is that his fault? Maybe? Sorry? Speaking of him

0:29:15.527 --> 0:29:18.607
<v Speaker 2>being a serious actor, the wrestling movie Dying Claw, He's

0:29:18.647 --> 0:29:20.767
<v Speaker 2>gonna win award. Oh, it's so brilliant. He's just so

0:29:20.847 --> 0:29:24.327
<v Speaker 2>excellent a great actor. He'll be even I go, you

0:29:24.327 --> 0:29:26.687
<v Speaker 2>were great then, yeah, but mark my words, he'll be

0:29:26.727 --> 0:29:28.807
<v Speaker 2>winning an Academy Award in the next few years. Not

0:29:28.847 --> 0:29:40.687
<v Speaker 2>for a Family Affair. Finally, his face. There's a movie

0:29:40.687 --> 0:29:42.327
<v Speaker 2>out on Netflix called a Family Affair.

0:29:42.367 --> 0:29:44.207
<v Speaker 3>Because I can't play a blind alcoholic.

0:29:44.727 --> 0:29:46.767
<v Speaker 4>It goes against my iconography.

0:29:47.247 --> 0:29:49.567
<v Speaker 3>My eyes are too pretty to not be on camera.

0:29:49.887 --> 0:29:53.967
<v Speaker 2>I told you we'd see your eyes. Starring Nicole Kidman,

0:29:54.247 --> 0:29:57.167
<v Speaker 2>Joey King, Claire, can you please remind the Council courtroom

0:29:57.167 --> 0:30:03.687
<v Speaker 2>who Joey King is the ex girlfriend of Jacob Aldie. Oh, yes,

0:30:05.167 --> 0:30:10.487
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna say gypsy gypsy ros. But from the kissing booth,

0:30:10.807 --> 0:30:12.807
<v Speaker 2>la la lah, they have history. We need to do

0:30:12.927 --> 0:30:16.127
<v Speaker 2>a big mind map of all the connections in between them.

0:30:16.247 --> 0:30:20.407
<v Speaker 2>And of course Zach I watched five minutes and Luca

0:30:20.487 --> 0:30:22.367
<v Speaker 2>made us turn it off. But I have saved my

0:30:22.447 --> 0:30:25.167
<v Speaker 2>place and shall be returning in bright Okay. That often

0:30:25.207 --> 0:30:27.287
<v Speaker 2>happens with your partner, doesn't it. You go yeah, yeah,

0:30:27.327 --> 0:30:29.367
<v Speaker 2>it's terrible. Yeah, we won't And then I'm like, you

0:30:29.407 --> 0:30:31.607
<v Speaker 2>go on out this week, I've got a movie to watch.

0:30:32.527 --> 0:30:35.127
<v Speaker 2>The headline about this film, which has a thirty nine

0:30:35.127 --> 0:30:37.167
<v Speaker 2>percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which makes me want to

0:30:37.167 --> 0:30:39.767
<v Speaker 2>say more. Is zach Evron's face right, folks.

0:30:39.887 --> 0:30:42.567
<v Speaker 1>Zach Efron's jaw is making headlines again.

0:30:42.767 --> 0:30:45.727
<v Speaker 2>It's different. People on the internet say his face shape

0:30:45.727 --> 0:30:47.927
<v Speaker 2>has changed considerably. You can see in The Iron Claw

0:30:47.967 --> 0:30:50.527
<v Speaker 2>as well, his jaw is more square and his lips

0:30:50.567 --> 0:30:53.567
<v Speaker 2>appear fuller, and everyone's yelling you messed up your face

0:30:53.927 --> 0:30:58.487
<v Speaker 2>and sharing mean comparisons and saying that they feel personally victimized.

0:30:58.567 --> 0:31:01.567
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, I don't know, maybe you need to

0:31:01.567 --> 0:31:05.407
<v Speaker 2>go for a walk. Okay, Dutch some grass touch. He's

0:31:05.407 --> 0:31:07.327
<v Speaker 2>still hot. Though he's still hot in Iron Claw, I

0:31:07.367 --> 0:31:08.607
<v Speaker 2>just think he's okay. Yeah.

0:31:08.647 --> 0:31:08.807
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:31:09.247 --> 0:31:13.607
<v Speaker 2>One has actually addressed his changing face. He says that

0:31:13.647 --> 0:31:16.527
<v Speaker 2>back in twenty thirteen, he was running through his house

0:31:16.527 --> 0:31:19.767
<v Speaker 2>in socks and he tripped and fell on his fountain

0:31:20.167 --> 0:31:22.327
<v Speaker 2>because there was a puddle of water. This is a

0:31:22.367 --> 0:31:25.207
<v Speaker 2>court room, so we need to properly prosecute this story.

0:31:26.527 --> 0:31:30.247
<v Speaker 2>I started by googling granite fountain, okay, because I needed

0:31:30.247 --> 0:31:32.327
<v Speaker 2>a visual. This is what came up on Google. Wat.

0:31:32.767 --> 0:31:35.167
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is an outdoor fountain. But yeah, that's

0:31:35.167 --> 0:31:37.007
<v Speaker 2>what I was gonna ask. Was I was talking about

0:31:37.007 --> 0:31:39.127
<v Speaker 2>an indoor It's an indoor fountain, and it's indoors at

0:31:39.127 --> 0:31:41.087
<v Speaker 2>his home. Yes, why does he have an indoor found?

0:31:41.167 --> 0:31:42.727
<v Speaker 2>He has addressed that and he said, it's pretty cool.

0:31:42.767 --> 0:31:44.527
<v Speaker 2>I have an indoor found, so he knows that's not

0:31:44.567 --> 0:31:46.927
<v Speaker 2>the knot. But he does have an indoor fountain. But

0:31:46.967 --> 0:31:49.127
<v Speaker 2>then what I did is I tried to find an

0:31:49.167 --> 0:31:52.327
<v Speaker 2>image of the granite fountain inside his house. And I

0:31:52.327 --> 0:31:54.567
<v Speaker 2>could find his house like as in the one that

0:31:54.567 --> 0:31:56.007
<v Speaker 2>he'd bought or whatever. But I think he might have

0:31:56.087 --> 0:31:58.407
<v Speaker 2>installed the granite fountain after he purchased it, because I

0:31:58.407 --> 0:32:01.607
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see an image. Okay. Now I've got some comments

0:32:01.887 --> 0:32:07.007
<v Speaker 2>about the fall, specifically the socks and the water. I

0:32:07.127 --> 0:32:13.167
<v Speaker 2>have slept in my house wearing socks on floorboards, on tiles,

0:32:13.607 --> 0:32:16.807
<v Speaker 2>lots of situations. You know, a bit of water when

0:32:16.847 --> 0:32:20.767
<v Speaker 2>you get out of the shower, slip slip, but when

0:32:20.807 --> 0:32:28.727
<v Speaker 2>you're wearing socks when you step in wet Okay, yes, yes, okay.

0:32:28.767 --> 0:32:34.287
<v Speaker 2>There are two different ways to slip. One is socks,

0:32:34.967 --> 0:32:40.887
<v Speaker 2>dry floor, the other is no socks, wet floor. That's

0:32:41.167 --> 0:32:43.887
<v Speaker 2>they are the two ways. If it slip on a

0:32:43.887 --> 0:32:48.687
<v Speaker 2>granite mountain, yeah, And what I'm confused about is if

0:32:48.767 --> 0:32:53.607
<v Speaker 2>you personally have ever slipped on water and socks. Okay,

0:32:53.727 --> 0:32:56.567
<v Speaker 2>what I will say. No I haven't, but this is

0:32:56.567 --> 0:32:58.367
<v Speaker 2>what I will say. And we've talked about this before.

0:32:58.767 --> 0:33:01.727
<v Speaker 2>When you get an injury, you somehow I hit my

0:33:01.767 --> 0:33:04.447
<v Speaker 2>head the other day, like a little while ago, full

0:33:04.687 --> 0:33:07.487
<v Speaker 2>banged my head, huge egg on my head, full bruise.

0:33:07.647 --> 0:33:10.847
<v Speaker 2>I had to call the paramedics. Whenever you have an

0:33:10.847 --> 0:33:14.007
<v Speaker 2>injury as an adult and have to explain how it happened,

0:33:14.247 --> 0:33:17.607
<v Speaker 2>it sounds weird. Sounds like a lie. There's never a

0:33:17.647 --> 0:33:20.487
<v Speaker 2>time when what you were doing leading up to them

0:33:21.007 --> 0:33:24.487
<v Speaker 2>to make makes sense. So me and my partner were

0:33:24.487 --> 0:33:28.207
<v Speaker 2>walking home from dinner. It was five pm. Yeah, So

0:33:28.247 --> 0:33:31.047
<v Speaker 2>the paramedics are like, sorry, you're walking at dinner at

0:33:31.047 --> 0:33:34.167
<v Speaker 2>five pm? Sounds like a lie. We have a baby, right,

0:33:34.247 --> 0:33:37.607
<v Speaker 2>so things are weird. So you had dinner at four yeap, yep,

0:33:37.687 --> 0:33:41.247
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, why were you walking down this street.

0:33:41.327 --> 0:33:43.087
<v Speaker 2>It's not a logical way to walk to our house.

0:33:43.327 --> 0:33:45.567
<v Speaker 2>And then I think I had maybe luberta concussion. I

0:33:45.607 --> 0:33:48.127
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, we were going to Messina all right

0:33:48.487 --> 0:33:51.567
<v Speaker 2>after our four thirty pm dinner, okay, And there's just

0:33:51.607 --> 0:33:54.487
<v Speaker 2>a lot of moving parts like, yeah, why were you

0:33:55.207 --> 0:33:57.287
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you're covering. Yeah, it sounds like it

0:33:57.327 --> 0:34:02.007
<v Speaker 2>sounds like you've fallen to distract from a drug bust. Yes,

0:34:02.327 --> 0:34:05.207
<v Speaker 2>And it's like were you drinking? And it's like it

0:34:05.247 --> 0:34:08.887
<v Speaker 2>does say I should have been drinking. Fair, fair, fair question,

0:34:09.407 --> 0:34:13.047
<v Speaker 2>and no. No, I am just very odd And every

0:34:13.047 --> 0:34:14.847
<v Speaker 2>time I've injured myself, I've thought that. So in zac

0:34:14.887 --> 0:34:18.047
<v Speaker 2>Efron's defense, the weirder the story, the more I actually

0:34:18.087 --> 0:34:20.607
<v Speaker 2>believe it. Yeah, but I feel like I'm with him

0:34:20.647 --> 0:34:24.087
<v Speaker 2>on falling on the granite fountain. Yeah. I just wonder if,

0:34:24.087 --> 0:34:27.567
<v Speaker 2>in order to make it believable, he's gone slippery and

0:34:27.567 --> 0:34:29.687
<v Speaker 2>then he's gone I'm going to add some slippery details.

0:34:30.047 --> 0:34:32.767
<v Speaker 2>But the two slippery details, it's like two positives equal

0:34:32.767 --> 0:34:35.567
<v Speaker 2>and negative. I think maybe there was water. Yeah, he

0:34:35.607 --> 0:34:38.767
<v Speaker 2>doesn't realize that's not what he slipped on. What did

0:34:38.807 --> 0:34:42.047
<v Speaker 2>he slip on? Just the normal floor, okay, or he

0:34:42.087 --> 0:34:45.247
<v Speaker 2>actually wasn't wearing socks. Yeah, he's just got confused. Yeah, Well,

0:34:45.407 --> 0:34:47.927
<v Speaker 2>he was struck unconscious and when he woke up, his

0:34:48.167 --> 0:34:52.007
<v Speaker 2>chin was hanging from his face, and I googled whether

0:34:52.087 --> 0:34:54.287
<v Speaker 2>hitting your chin can make you unconscious because I also

0:34:54.327 --> 0:34:56.647
<v Speaker 2>want more. Does that check out? No, definitely it does.

0:34:56.727 --> 0:35:00.287
<v Speaker 2>Skull bones going up. Yeah, he had to have his

0:35:00.407 --> 0:35:03.687
<v Speaker 2>mouth wide shut and he needed lots of stitches as

0:35:03.687 --> 0:35:06.487
<v Speaker 2>a result of breaking his jaw. Zach said that his

0:35:06.647 --> 0:35:10.487
<v Speaker 2>other facial muscles, namely the mass te which are used

0:35:10.487 --> 0:35:16.767
<v Speaker 2>for chewing massad mass I'm sorry, what was you know

0:35:16.767 --> 0:35:21.367
<v Speaker 2>why I know it because people talk about getting massive botox. Ah,

0:35:21.407 --> 0:35:23.887
<v Speaker 2>that's the only context is that I've seen TikTok videos

0:35:23.927 --> 0:35:28.247
<v Speaker 2>of people talking about massa okay, grinding. It's the muscles

0:35:28.247 --> 0:35:30.127
<v Speaker 2>that are used for chewing. And the reason that people

0:35:30.127 --> 0:35:32.967
<v Speaker 2>want botox for their grinding is because it will make

0:35:33.047 --> 0:35:36.487
<v Speaker 2>your jaw look bigger. So if you grind or if

0:35:36.527 --> 0:35:39.327
<v Speaker 2>you like overuse those muscles, it can change the shape

0:35:39.327 --> 0:35:43.727
<v Speaker 2>of your jaw. And basically what happened was because it

0:35:43.767 --> 0:35:46.887
<v Speaker 2>was wired shut and he was like grinding, like he

0:35:46.927 --> 0:35:49.607
<v Speaker 2>had his teeth shut. The idea is that it had

0:35:49.687 --> 0:35:52.847
<v Speaker 2>kind of overcompensated and his massaters grew to be really,

0:35:52.927 --> 0:35:54.847
<v Speaker 2>really big, and he was meant to be doing physio,

0:35:54.887 --> 0:35:56.247
<v Speaker 2>but then he had another project he had to go

0:35:56.287 --> 0:35:58.527
<v Speaker 2>and work on, and he didn't do the physioproperly, and

0:35:58.567 --> 0:36:01.367
<v Speaker 2>apparently it grew and grew. I googled it because I

0:36:01.407 --> 0:36:04.647
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, can that happen? And yeah, it can.

0:36:05.247 --> 0:36:07.847
<v Speaker 2>So if this is a lie, like a PR team

0:36:07.927 --> 0:36:12.447
<v Speaker 2>has got a doctor involved and asked a lot of questions.

0:36:12.487 --> 0:36:14.767
<v Speaker 2>Seems a bit funny to be defending him because women's

0:36:14.767 --> 0:36:18.247
<v Speaker 2>appearance is always torn apart, and how often do we

0:36:18.287 --> 0:36:21.287
<v Speaker 2>talk about women ruining their faces with plastic surgery or whatever.

0:36:21.607 --> 0:36:24.527
<v Speaker 2>But I do think it is never appropriate to say that,

0:36:24.567 --> 0:36:26.607
<v Speaker 2>and it is sad because it was an injury in

0:36:26.647 --> 0:36:31.567
<v Speaker 2>a family affair. Zac Efron Actually he references he's due,

0:36:32.087 --> 0:36:34.847
<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you there's another story. He's saying he

0:36:34.887 --> 0:36:37.007
<v Speaker 2>fell over on set. No mention of a granite film.

0:36:37.087 --> 0:36:43.887
<v Speaker 3>I did, really, Yeah, where that's right here?

0:36:44.687 --> 0:36:45.607
<v Speaker 1>I fell on swet.

0:36:45.887 --> 0:36:52.407
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I see it. It's a brookings. Okay, that's

0:36:52.447 --> 0:36:55.367
<v Speaker 2>because it's in a script. I just think that if

0:36:55.407 --> 0:36:59.407
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go with our sockshoe wet story, provide more

0:36:59.447 --> 0:37:02.287
<v Speaker 2>details through feeling exactly exactly if we're going to provide

0:37:02.287 --> 0:37:04.047
<v Speaker 2>a detail through film. It felt like he had to

0:37:04.087 --> 0:37:06.127
<v Speaker 2>acknowledge it because people are going to talk about the face.

0:37:06.647 --> 0:37:08.167
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, no, I've had an accident. I

0:37:08.207 --> 0:37:12.007
<v Speaker 2>lost my chin on found No, no, no, But he

0:37:12.127 --> 0:37:14.647
<v Speaker 2>talks about a scar. Yeah, he says he nearly died.

0:37:14.687 --> 0:37:16.807
<v Speaker 2>It was very very serious. It's very traumatic for him.

0:37:16.807 --> 0:37:20.007
<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't be laughing. Stop, Claire. It is time for

0:37:20.127 --> 0:37:28.847
<v Speaker 2>charges and sentences on the socks. We need to know

0:37:28.887 --> 0:37:31.527
<v Speaker 2>how wet because there's a point at which obviously socks

0:37:31.527 --> 0:37:33.847
<v Speaker 2>are made of fabric, and we know that the fabric

0:37:33.887 --> 0:37:38.647
<v Speaker 2>can cause resistance which helps us to not fall in wet.

0:37:39.487 --> 0:37:42.927
<v Speaker 2>But were they so wet that has just become foot

0:37:43.047 --> 0:37:46.447
<v Speaker 2>You've taken a few steps and your sock has soaked through,

0:37:46.487 --> 0:37:48.807
<v Speaker 2>so that your sock is no longer sock in terms

0:37:48.807 --> 0:37:52.607
<v Speaker 2>of purpose. Exactly, there's no friction left. We're just slipping around, Yeah,

0:37:52.647 --> 0:37:54.607
<v Speaker 2>which I can see how you would slip. I have

0:37:54.647 --> 0:37:57.927
<v Speaker 2>another question in regards to this, Like we're in a courtroom,

0:37:58.127 --> 0:38:01.327
<v Speaker 2>your zac Efron, and I'm just trusting questions. It's just

0:38:01.367 --> 0:38:05.247
<v Speaker 2>my job. Why the wet? Why the wet? Yes, so

0:38:05.287 --> 0:38:07.487
<v Speaker 2>you have a granite fountain. Love that fear it was

0:38:07.527 --> 0:38:11.447
<v Speaker 2>from the fountain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's he fountain leaking. Yeah,

0:38:11.487 --> 0:38:15.887
<v Speaker 2>it was leaking, and it wasn't leaking. The problem with

0:38:15.967 --> 0:38:19.887
<v Speaker 2>having a fountain inside is that often water does splash

0:38:20.167 --> 0:38:23.047
<v Speaker 2>from the fountain into the outside. Zach Efron, do you

0:38:23.047 --> 0:38:25.847
<v Speaker 2>have a help? Yeah, they were sick that day. I

0:38:26.047 --> 0:38:28.567
<v Speaker 2>just feel as though if I'm zac Efron, I'm not

0:38:29.047 --> 0:38:31.607
<v Speaker 2>mupping up my own floor. I feel as though there's

0:38:31.647 --> 0:38:33.527
<v Speaker 2>a guy. Well, I think the surprise you pay for

0:38:33.567 --> 0:38:38.207
<v Speaker 2>having a fountain indoors, it's why I've not done it,

0:38:38.287 --> 0:38:41.487
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want wet. Yeah, there is another feature

0:38:41.527 --> 0:38:45.567
<v Speaker 2>of a lie. Again, I'm just asking questions where we

0:38:45.607 --> 0:38:48.767
<v Speaker 2>give a few too many details. Right, he didn't trip

0:38:48.767 --> 0:38:52.207
<v Speaker 2>over a fountain. He tripped over granite mountain. It wasn't

0:38:52.327 --> 0:38:53.407
<v Speaker 2>just any socks.

0:38:53.447 --> 0:38:53.927
<v Speaker 3>It was wet.

0:38:54.287 --> 0:38:58.407
<v Speaker 2>That's also those details, the details that you think is

0:38:58.447 --> 0:39:03.327
<v Speaker 2>that relevant also a feature of the truth. That's interesting,

0:39:03.567 --> 0:39:06.767
<v Speaker 2>but a strange. It's like when I'm lying about why

0:39:06.887 --> 0:39:11.687
<v Speaker 2>I'm sick from whack, I'm taking a photo of my vomit, right, Like,

0:39:11.727 --> 0:39:16.327
<v Speaker 2>I'm really over providing on evidence. And I just wonder

0:39:16.367 --> 0:39:19.447
<v Speaker 2>if he had truly fallen, would he say I stipt

0:39:19.487 --> 0:39:22.287
<v Speaker 2>at home it was an injury. I'd like a picture

0:39:22.327 --> 0:39:24.007
<v Speaker 2>of the granite fountain, okay, and I'd like to know

0:39:24.007 --> 0:39:25.687
<v Speaker 2>where it happened. I don't know. I feel like if

0:39:25.687 --> 0:39:27.647
<v Speaker 2>you were chatting to a friend about how you injured yourself,

0:39:27.687 --> 0:39:31.407
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you do provide just a few details. Yeah, okay,

0:39:31.567 --> 0:39:34.487
<v Speaker 2>so you believe me? Yeah? I think I believe him too.

0:39:34.527 --> 0:39:36.887
<v Speaker 2>And was that saying truth is stranger than fiction? Oh

0:39:36.927 --> 0:39:41.287
<v Speaker 2>wow then yeah bo yeah, yeah, yeah, weird of the story,

0:39:41.367 --> 0:39:44.367
<v Speaker 2>the more true. I'm going to go first in the charge.

0:39:44.447 --> 0:39:47.047
<v Speaker 2>I need to talk about New Year's Eve. I saw

0:39:47.127 --> 0:39:50.247
<v Speaker 2>that because he was in it, and that was one

0:39:50.367 --> 0:39:53.567
<v Speaker 2>hour and fifty three minutes of my life I'm not

0:39:53.607 --> 0:39:58.047
<v Speaker 2>getting back. And storylines that don't involve him so many Yes,

0:39:58.207 --> 0:40:00.807
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm just over here. What was his watching

0:40:01.087 --> 0:40:03.327
<v Speaker 2>Bloody Robert de Niro? If ione to watching Robert de

0:40:03.367 --> 0:40:08.887
<v Speaker 2>Niro film, I'd watch literally any other one. Yeah, I

0:40:08.927 --> 0:40:11.327
<v Speaker 2>need to watch him in New Year's Eve? What is

0:40:11.407 --> 0:40:14.247
<v Speaker 2>zac Efron's storyline in that? I think he's pursuing Michelle Pfeiffer,

0:40:14.287 --> 0:40:17.007
<v Speaker 2>older woman, and she's like, I'm older than you. That's

0:40:17.087 --> 0:40:21.287
<v Speaker 2>kind of hot. It took too long to get to

0:40:21.327 --> 0:40:25.167
<v Speaker 2>the dancing scene as established, and there's actually another crime

0:40:25.207 --> 0:40:28.247
<v Speaker 2>which breaks the rules of court because you shouldn't bring

0:40:28.287 --> 0:40:31.367
<v Speaker 2>up new evidence in the ruling. Or maybe that's debating,

0:40:32.167 --> 0:40:34.967
<v Speaker 2>can't be clear. Yeah, remember a few years ago he

0:40:35.007 --> 0:40:37.567
<v Speaker 2>came to Australia and he started dating a girl.

0:40:37.367 --> 0:40:38.207
<v Speaker 3>In Byron Bay.

0:40:38.407 --> 0:40:41.727
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could draw a photo of her from memory.

0:40:42.087 --> 0:40:46.047
<v Speaker 2>That pissed me off, okay, because it was like, well,

0:40:46.447 --> 0:40:51.287
<v Speaker 2>now maybe you are within reach, like you're literally just

0:40:51.327 --> 0:40:54.327
<v Speaker 2>over the plane trip, cheeky ten hour drive from where

0:40:54.367 --> 0:40:57.367
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting right now to zak Efron, And like I

0:40:57.447 --> 0:40:59.607
<v Speaker 2>know the cafe where she was working that she met him,

0:40:59.647 --> 0:41:01.207
<v Speaker 2>and it's like I could have been at that cafe.

0:41:01.527 --> 0:41:05.007
<v Speaker 2>I could have worked there. Yeah, so we're dating Australians now, Yeah,

0:41:05.167 --> 0:41:07.487
<v Speaker 2>could have let me know and then within ten years

0:41:07.487 --> 0:41:10.927
<v Speaker 2>of my age. And then I thought, so, if we

0:41:10.927 --> 0:41:14.807
<v Speaker 2>were open to dating everyday goals, how about when I

0:41:14.847 --> 0:41:19.807
<v Speaker 2>met you? Yeah, and why didn't we flag that so

0:41:19.887 --> 0:41:21.487
<v Speaker 2>that a few of us could get a shot? Good?

0:41:21.567 --> 0:41:24.087
<v Speaker 2>Because it nearly ruined my relationship with my husband, the

0:41:24.087 --> 0:41:28.127
<v Speaker 2>father of my child. It did, yeah, because I went,

0:41:28.487 --> 0:41:30.927
<v Speaker 2>all right, there's a chance that the man from high school,

0:41:30.967 --> 0:41:33.927
<v Speaker 2>musical man in bad neighbors, who I think is a

0:41:33.927 --> 0:41:36.487
<v Speaker 2>real laugh and does a sexy dance in Newar's Eve.

0:41:37.327 --> 0:41:39.567
<v Speaker 2>He's just over there. It's just picking up girls, just

0:41:39.567 --> 0:41:41.967
<v Speaker 2>looking for love. He could dance just for me, and

0:41:42.007 --> 0:41:48.287
<v Speaker 2>he likes the Australian accent. Apparently that relationship did end.

0:41:47.967 --> 0:41:53.687
<v Speaker 2>It did end because she wasn't right, Oh, because you're right, okay, yes, yes,

0:41:53.967 --> 0:41:58.007
<v Speaker 2>but he was getting warmer my sentences. I'll forgive any

0:41:58.127 --> 0:42:00.527
<v Speaker 2>film if he dances at the end. And that's what

0:42:00.607 --> 0:42:02.567
<v Speaker 2>I learned from New Year's Eve, which brings me to

0:42:02.647 --> 0:42:05.687
<v Speaker 2>Ted Bundy. Oh he needed a little there was a

0:42:05.727 --> 0:42:10.287
<v Speaker 2>film missing a dance, or if a dance feels inappropriate,

0:42:10.567 --> 0:42:12.047
<v Speaker 2>the film's not for you, Zach.

0:42:14.007 --> 0:42:14.367
<v Speaker 1>Said.

0:42:14.447 --> 0:42:17.847
<v Speaker 2>Well said, so maybe that's a good test, litmus test.

0:42:17.927 --> 0:42:20.487
<v Speaker 2>Ted Bundy isn't playing to your strengths. Whereas, look, I

0:42:20.527 --> 0:42:23.727
<v Speaker 2>don't condone anything Ted Bundy did. Bad guy. I'm on

0:42:23.767 --> 0:42:26.647
<v Speaker 2>the record of saying that. But zac Efron dancing even

0:42:26.687 --> 0:42:28.567
<v Speaker 2>as Ted Bundy I ould have watched it, okay, and

0:42:28.567 --> 0:42:31.647
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind. Just as the credits roll. Okay, it

0:42:31.687 --> 0:42:33.607
<v Speaker 2>made sense in the wrestling movie for him to do

0:42:33.647 --> 0:42:35.727
<v Speaker 2>a dance. It could make sense for Ted Bundy to

0:42:35.767 --> 0:42:38.807
<v Speaker 2>do a little hip hop. Okay, do a break dance.

0:42:38.887 --> 0:42:43.167
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. Old Wait, Claire, what's your charge? My charge

0:42:43.367 --> 0:42:49.327
<v Speaker 2>is doing things that aren't playing to his strengths slash talents. Okay,

0:42:49.447 --> 0:42:52.447
<v Speaker 2>so when we take on a role that isn't You're

0:42:52.447 --> 0:42:55.327
<v Speaker 2>a triple threat, mate, so you're dancing acting yeah yeah,

0:42:55.487 --> 0:42:58.447
<v Speaker 2>and your faith and your face for your quadruple threat.

0:42:59.247 --> 0:43:03.687
<v Speaker 2>And so I want things that really play to that.

0:43:03.847 --> 0:43:06.807
<v Speaker 2>So for example, wrestling movie, I exclusively refer to it

0:43:06.847 --> 0:43:08.767
<v Speaker 2>as wrestling movie. I don't know the name. It's called

0:43:08.767 --> 0:43:11.567
<v Speaker 2>the Iron Claw. It was so good. Same with the

0:43:11.567 --> 0:43:13.367
<v Speaker 2>Greatest Showman. I think that that was some of zach

0:43:13.407 --> 0:43:18.567
<v Speaker 2>Efronitty's best because he could triple threat yeah, singing, dancing, kissing, yeah, zendaat,

0:43:18.607 --> 0:43:21.007
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. There wasn't enough singing dancing in Ted Bundy.

0:43:21.567 --> 0:43:23.767
<v Speaker 2>And another way that he's not playing to his strengths.

0:43:23.807 --> 0:43:27.047
<v Speaker 2>It's when all these drugs and alcohol and homeless man

0:43:27.127 --> 0:43:31.327
<v Speaker 2>encounter boys stop that no that's not playing to your strengths. Well,

0:43:31.367 --> 0:43:33.487
<v Speaker 2>he had a moment he said, I've learnt from it.

0:43:33.647 --> 0:43:35.807
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was ten years ago. Well, I'm glad he's

0:43:35.807 --> 0:43:37.727
<v Speaker 2>off the drugs and hour so you can focus more

0:43:37.767 --> 0:43:43.127
<v Speaker 2>on his skills. Yes, well, no sentence. Zach Efron needs

0:43:43.127 --> 0:43:46.287
<v Speaker 2>a TikTok where he dances. I don't understand why his

0:43:46.327 --> 0:43:51.247
<v Speaker 2>people haven't set that up. Yeah, genuinely quit everything else, mate,

0:43:51.607 --> 0:43:55.047
<v Speaker 2>and just dance on TikTok. Should he do like a

0:43:55.127 --> 0:43:59.687
<v Speaker 2>jojo Siwakoma? No, because I get the ick that would

0:43:59.687 --> 0:44:03.087
<v Speaker 2>be ikey. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but just I

0:44:03.487 --> 0:44:07.207
<v Speaker 2>want more dance, access to more dancing. I think he's

0:44:07.207 --> 0:44:08.727
<v Speaker 2>trying to move away from that is a sense I

0:44:08.727 --> 0:44:12.367
<v Speaker 2>get from the eye. Oh yeah, it'd be taken seriously.

0:44:12.447 --> 0:44:14.847
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah, him and Timothy Shall and I can

0:44:14.887 --> 0:44:18.087
<v Speaker 2>do a dance together. Oh oh, anyway, So I need

0:44:18.087 --> 0:44:20.727
<v Speaker 2>more dancing, and TikTok is a lovely accessible way for

0:44:20.767 --> 0:44:23.207
<v Speaker 2>me to get it. I love that. Thank you so

0:44:23.327 --> 0:44:25.927
<v Speaker 2>much for joining us on this episode of Canceled. The

0:44:25.967 --> 0:44:30.447
<v Speaker 2>executive producer of Canceled is Toelyssiberzazz, with audio editing. Bye

0:44:30.487 --> 0:44:34.287
<v Speaker 2>tom Lyon we are gonna post the pictures Ted Bundy

0:44:34.327 --> 0:44:36.007
<v Speaker 2>what he looks like, a picture of a granite moountain

0:44:36.047 --> 0:44:38.327
<v Speaker 2>that now exists in my phone, and and that video

0:44:38.687 --> 0:44:41.567
<v Speaker 2>of him dancing at the end of mm Onto, The

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<v Speaker 2>at mummea dot com dot au. We will be back

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye.

0:44:55.927 --> 0:44:58.727
<v Speaker 2>Before we go. If you are looking for something else

0:44:58.767 --> 0:45:02.887
<v Speaker 2>to listen to, then I have fantastic news because someone

0:45:02.927 --> 0:45:07.047
<v Speaker 2>I know, Claire Spoiler, it's you just did a whole

0:45:07.087 --> 0:45:11.487
<v Speaker 2>season of h chart topping podcast called but are you happy?

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<v Speaker 2>All the episodes are now available and you can go

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<v Speaker 2>and listen to them. Claire, what are some of the

0:45:16.207 --> 0:45:18.407
<v Speaker 2>highlights from the season you've just done. It's weird that

0:45:18.447 --> 0:45:20.487
<v Speaker 2>you're not taking the piss out of me, so it's

0:45:20.487 --> 0:45:22.847
<v Speaker 2>just an awkward dynamic right now. But some of the

0:45:22.887 --> 0:45:27.567
<v Speaker 2>people I've interviewed for this season are media personality Laura Burt,

0:45:28.767 --> 0:45:34.927
<v Speaker 2>musical theater star Rob Mills, Olympic gold medalist around Tipmas,

0:45:34.927 --> 0:45:39.567
<v Speaker 2>comedian Josh Thomas. We've got Brooke Blurton. We've got actress

0:45:39.607 --> 0:45:43.167
<v Speaker 2>and Gowerie Rice, who is in Mean Girls, and there

0:45:43.167 --> 0:45:48.247
<v Speaker 2>are just so many fascinating conversations on this season about

0:45:48.487 --> 0:45:51.887
<v Speaker 2>what happens when you get everything that you want and

0:45:52.047 --> 0:45:55.407
<v Speaker 2>how it doesn't feel how you would think it feels.

0:45:56.087 --> 0:45:59.847
<v Speaker 2>We talk about people who would trade what they have

0:46:00.687 --> 0:46:03.687
<v Speaker 2>in terms of success for something else that they feel

0:46:03.727 --> 0:46:06.847
<v Speaker 2>is missing in their lives, to talk about jealousy, regret,

0:46:07.847 --> 0:46:11.247
<v Speaker 2>me mental health, mental health. And it's a season that

0:46:11.527 --> 0:46:15.007
<v Speaker 2>I think everyone will find something that resonates with them.

0:46:15.087 --> 0:46:17.887
<v Speaker 2>You haven't referenced the biggest endorsement of this season, I said,

0:46:17.967 --> 0:46:19.647
<v Speaker 2>chart topping. I think Apple chose it as one of

0:46:19.687 --> 0:46:22.527
<v Speaker 2>their best podcasts last year, but that means nothing in

0:46:22.567 --> 0:46:25.367
<v Speaker 2>comparison to the endorsement You've got, which was from one

0:46:25.367 --> 0:46:28.967
<v Speaker 2>Anne Stevens, who did share the Rob Mills episode just

0:46:29.047 --> 0:46:34.447
<v Speaker 2>with the two words He's gorgeous. Okay, okay, I just

0:46:34.487 --> 0:46:36.447
<v Speaker 2>got the hots for Rob Mills. Yeah she does, which

0:46:36.487 --> 0:46:39.887
<v Speaker 2>is like, I mean, I ambushed him and he came in,

0:46:39.967 --> 0:46:43.167
<v Speaker 2>and I think there was an ambush. Yes, not appropriate.

0:46:43.287 --> 0:46:46.767
<v Speaker 2>I yelled, you're my husband, yeah, which isn't. He's engaged, Yeah,

0:46:46.767 --> 0:46:47.287
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't.

0:46:47.327 --> 0:46:47.447
<v Speaker 4>YEA.

0:46:48.207 --> 0:46:50.767
<v Speaker 2>The last season, Your Bloody interviewed his fiance, so it's

0:46:50.767 --> 0:46:52.447
<v Speaker 2>just all getting very awkward. If you want to hear

0:46:52.487 --> 0:46:56.447
<v Speaker 2>that awkwardness Claire blowing up a future marriage, then listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the later season of But Are You Happy. There

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