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Speaker 2: Hello out louders, It is Jesse here, and do you

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Speaker 2: remember in twenty twenty four when everyone in the world,

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Speaker 2: and by everyone in the world, I'm in Holly May

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Speaker 2: and I we're talking about the film A Family Affair,

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Speaker 2: which starred Zac Efron and Nicole Kidman. We had a

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Speaker 2: lot of feelings about this movie. We did a subscriber

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Speaker 2: episode on it. We did a segment with some of

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Speaker 2: the conversations that people were having. If you missed those conversations,

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Speaker 2: we will pop a link in the show notes to

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Speaker 2: this episode. But the point is Zac Efron, my twin

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Speaker 2: sister Claire and I decided to deep dive into mister

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Speaker 2: Ephron his career and yes, all of those rumors about

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Speaker 2: his face on our podcast Canceled. Side note, Claire has

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Speaker 2: actually met zac Efron and she has a very good story.

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Speaker 2: So please enjoy this episode of Canceled, which is a

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Speaker 2: lazy girl's guide to all bizarre celebrity cancelations.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy, Hello, and.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Canceled, the podcast that looks at silly celebrity

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Speaker 2: crimes and as science, charges and sentences so we can

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Speaker 2: all get on with our lives. I'm Jesse Stevens and

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Claire Stephens. And Claire, do you have

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Speaker 2: a lazy girl story for us today? I do it

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Speaker 2: as a bit of a personal one, all right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's not what happens when you haven't been through the

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Speaker 2: well exactly. So we were on holidays recently, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we were traveling with an icon mum. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Mum just had a line which I thought would resonate

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Speaker 2: a lot with lazy girls everywhere. She was sitting on

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Speaker 2: and she had a book in front of her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and she said I could read, I want to read, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I prefer to be on TikTok. And I just thought, Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's it, isn't it. That's it. It's it, and it's

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Speaker 2: not just about reading, it's about work. I think that

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Speaker 2: I thought, it's just one of those moments where somebody

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Speaker 2: I found myself intentionally walking towards my bedroom, getting into

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Speaker 2: uninterrupted TikTok time. There was a meme going around that

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, what's your bed time routine? These are

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Speaker 2: the nine evidence based things that I've built into my routine.

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Speaker 2: I followed the perfect nighttime routine. Welcome to my night routine. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's ninety minutes of TikTok. Yeah, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Everyone says, oh, You've got time to excite. No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: You are about to enter the canceled courtroom. The defendants

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Speaker 2: Today we're talking about zach Efron.

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Speaker 4: This could be the start of something news. What a

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Speaker 2: I just woke up and fucking jailed with a budget

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Speaker 3: Frost before hose, right, yeah, man, junk before truck.

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Speaker 2: Zachary David Alexander E. Froch. Such a hot night, sir.

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Speaker 2: know that woman. The turning point for zac Efron came

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Speaker 2: there's a controversy there, which we will get to. He

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Speaker 2: followed by I've Seen Every Zach Efron movie, No, followed

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Speaker 2: Some of his other movies include Bad Neighbors, You've Seen Bad, Bad, Number, too.

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Speaker 4: You've seen that we are going to end the year

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Speaker 2: I'm talking even bigger than last year's White Trash Bash.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Baywatch? Yeah? Oh yes, I actually think

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Speaker 2: The Greatest Showman. You've watched that? Most recently The Iron Claw.

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Speaker 3: Ever since I was a child, people said my family

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to protect us with God tried to

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Speaker 2: protect us with wrestling. And have you seen a family affair?

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Speaker 2: Is that brand new? Yeah? You haven't seen on my Netflix.

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Speaker 2: to it? What? Yes? Okay, shut up? Wait me meeting him?

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Speaker 2: This is the next I couldn't give it in anymore.

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Speaker 2: may prejudice the jury, like say, having met zach Efron

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Speaker 2: or anything of that. I reckon. I've mentioned it on

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Speaker 2: this podcast close through one hundred times. I did interview

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Speaker 2: I've seen the video of the body slam. Did you

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Speaker 2: guys have any just really cringe worthy, embarrassing moment.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things about being a part of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something goes wrong, you have to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the fear of looking stupid. Yeah, exactly, because if you

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Speaker 2: But it's literally got millions of views, and there I

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Speaker 2: Even my friends messaged me being like, why don't you

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Speaker 2: put some powder on? And I was like, well, I

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Speaker 2: But I think I've said on this podcast before, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: zac Efron all the vibes, Ndaya not as much. Only

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Speaker 2: She's on her phone. You didn't lie that where is Zach?

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Speaker 2: And you were like, who even is a next minute

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Speaker 2: it's sexy when he dances, and I thoroughly enjoyed The

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Speaker 2: actually just called neighbors? Yes in America. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 2: structure for today is as follows, High School Musical and

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Speaker 2: and finally face high School Musical and an Awkward Truth.

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Speaker 2: In January two thousand and six, High School Musical debuts

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Speaker 2: adaptation of Romeo and Juliet Ah. The film became an

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Speaker 2: I've never watched it. It's the music for me. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's not zac Efron's voice. What that's Drew's voice, which

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Speaker 2: begs the question, who the fuck is Drew? Drew, Yes,

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Speaker 2: not Zach's voice. Drew Seeley is a lovely young man

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Speaker 2: Efron can sing, So why didn't they use his voice? Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting okay. Sorry, I'm just Okayron said later in

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Speaker 2: an interview in the first movie, after everything was recorded,

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Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate that Drew has gotten proper credit, and

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Speaker 2: also that I've gotten the opportunity to come back and

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Speaker 2: try it again with my own voice. He's very talented.

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Speaker 2: I consider myself a regular kid that can carry a tune.

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Speaker 2: The party line is that Efron is a baritone. Baritone

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Speaker 2: I've written for TENA, which is high. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 2: so Efron couldn't hit those notes. What's cruel is it?

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Speaker 2: Drew tried out and he missed it. Yeah, Drew's pretty proud.

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Speaker 2: I've read some interviews with Drew and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say that when I went to Drew's Wikipedia, I'm not

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Speaker 2: So I just don't feel like he's Dak Cavron. He did, though,

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Speaker 2: and he'll have, you know, help with the lyrics for

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Speaker 2: like everyone else. The film New Year's Eve. We've spoken

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day. It famously starred every Jennifer and Hollywood two

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Speaker 2: people that are vaguely famous, so I don't know the name. Yeah, yeah,

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00:23:40,687 --> 00:23:45,327
Speaker 2: I'm gonna shaw this thing. Okay, yeah, I forgot yes, yes, yes, yes, okay,

423
00:23:45,887 --> 00:23:49,487
Speaker 2: right right, turn off the lights. We're gonna lose ours night.

424
00:23:49,687 --> 00:23:55,887
Speaker 2: What's the dearly top me to me feeling okay. The

425
00:23:55,967 --> 00:24:00,847
Speaker 2: thing about zach Efron dancing is he commits, ah, he

426
00:24:00,967 --> 00:24:04,967
Speaker 2: commits a hundred and a million percent and he goes

427
00:24:05,047 --> 00:24:07,087
Speaker 2: such a good dance. This is a routine and you

428
00:24:07,127 --> 00:24:09,727
Speaker 2: can actually imagine him in the club. You can imagine

429
00:24:09,767 --> 00:24:11,647
Speaker 2: him in the club. He dances like Travis Kelcey be

430
00:24:11,687 --> 00:24:15,087
Speaker 2: the hottest person club. In fact, in Iron Clare, did

431
00:24:15,127 --> 00:24:16,847
Speaker 2: you notice that there's a scene where he dances at

432
00:24:16,887 --> 00:24:28,087
Speaker 2: his wedding and it's just fifteen seconds his contract, He's on,

433
00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:32,647
Speaker 2: I'm a great dancer. So in every contract for every

434
00:24:32,807 --> 00:24:36,447
Speaker 2: movie there has to be a dance break. It stole

435
00:24:36,487 --> 00:24:39,727
Speaker 2: the film for him, so everyone leaves going terrible film,

436
00:24:39,767 --> 00:24:42,727
Speaker 2: great dance. I really liked that Raise a glass, Yes,

437
00:24:42,887 --> 00:24:45,407
Speaker 2: that was fun. That was fun at the end, and

438
00:24:45,447 --> 00:24:47,607
Speaker 2: it goes through the whole cast and it's like and

439
00:24:47,647 --> 00:24:50,047
Speaker 2: Michelle fire for is like, you know, over the age

440
00:24:50,047 --> 00:24:53,207
Speaker 2: of forty, so she's basically got a walking stick. Then

441
00:24:53,327 --> 00:24:55,807
Speaker 2: it's like, how lucky is she that Zack Efron is

442
00:24:55,807 --> 00:24:58,807
Speaker 2: doing a jig in front of her and so sexy.

443
00:24:58,927 --> 00:25:00,527
Speaker 2: It was just a high for him because he wasn't

444
00:25:00,527 --> 00:25:03,607
Speaker 2: playing a four year old, his voice isn't dubbed, he

445
00:25:03,687 --> 00:25:07,167
Speaker 2: wasn't dropping a condoct making the worst serial killer of

446
00:25:07,207 --> 00:25:11,367
Speaker 2: all time. Arousing Keefron is hot, beautiful, sexy, and as

447
00:25:11,367 --> 00:25:16,567
Speaker 2: aforementioned arousing. Ted Bundy was an American serial killer who kidnapped, raped,

448
00:25:16,607 --> 00:25:18,767
Speaker 2: and murdered dozens of young women and girls in the

449
00:25:18,847 --> 00:25:22,367
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies. He confessed to thirty murders, but the true

450
00:25:22,447 --> 00:25:26,927
Speaker 2: number is not known, and in twenty nineteen, director Joe Berlinger,

451
00:25:27,127 --> 00:25:31,567
Speaker 2: who is fascinated by Bundy, released a film called Extremely Wicked,

452
00:25:31,687 --> 00:25:35,367
Speaker 2: Shockingly Evil, and Vile, starring zac Efron as a serial killer.

453
00:25:35,407 --> 00:25:37,487
Speaker 2: It took me over a decade to look at this pho.

454
00:25:37,567 --> 00:25:42,567
Speaker 2: Now what happened to her head?

455
00:25:44,047 --> 00:25:48,007
Speaker 1: She was still positive in the woods to animals could

456
00:25:48,047 --> 00:25:51,807
Speaker 1: have conceivably done something like animals don't do that.

457
00:25:52,527 --> 00:25:56,367
Speaker 2: I'm not a bad guy seeing it saying it. Efron

458
00:25:56,487 --> 00:25:59,047
Speaker 2: was also a producer. Talk to me about it because

459
00:25:59,047 --> 00:26:01,367
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. Actually, you haven't seen it. No,

460
00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:07,647
Speaker 2: you've actually seen it every day every day. No, it's good. Well,

461
00:26:07,887 --> 00:26:10,207
Speaker 2: there was a lot of criticism. You recall the criticism

462
00:26:10,247 --> 00:26:12,967
Speaker 2: at the time No, that was everywhere, I remember, everywhere

463
00:26:13,007 --> 00:26:15,047
Speaker 2: wrote an opinion piece, and it was summed up by

464
00:26:15,087 --> 00:26:18,607
Speaker 2: the Washington Post, who said the film failed to distance

465
00:26:18,647 --> 00:26:22,447
Speaker 2: itself from the glorification of Bundy. The point was, according

466
00:26:22,447 --> 00:26:25,287
Speaker 2: to critics, that Bundy was hot, so no one could

467
00:26:25,327 --> 00:26:27,647
Speaker 2: believe he would be capable of such a barrn crime.

468
00:26:27,807 --> 00:26:31,287
Speaker 2: But like, yes, and that was the vibe of the film,

469
00:26:31,327 --> 00:26:33,527
Speaker 2: but that was also the vibe of Ted Bundy in

470
00:26:33,607 --> 00:26:36,647
Speaker 2: real life. Yes, But their point was that the film

471
00:26:36,767 --> 00:26:40,007
Speaker 2: was therefore unable to do justice to the sheer volume

472
00:26:40,047 --> 00:26:42,287
Speaker 2: of horror, and that the fact he was hot in

473
00:26:42,367 --> 00:26:44,167
Speaker 2: ordinary and blah blah blah, it was like the dominant

474
00:26:44,247 --> 00:26:47,207
Speaker 2: narrative at the time. It was like it was broadcast

475
00:26:47,247 --> 00:26:49,007
Speaker 2: and all these women were looking at it, going, look,

476
00:26:49,047 --> 00:26:51,247
Speaker 2: he's gorgeous, blah blah blah. It's like you're telling the

477
00:26:51,287 --> 00:26:56,247
Speaker 2: same story we've already heard. Rather than doing any justice

478
00:26:56,287 --> 00:26:58,847
Speaker 2: to any of his victims, I know what they mean,

479
00:26:58,967 --> 00:27:01,967
Speaker 2: we moved past him. Yeah. Efron's performance was criticized because

480
00:27:01,967 --> 00:27:04,607
Speaker 2: he didn't possess the malice required and it sort of

481
00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:08,567
Speaker 2: just perpetuated the stereotypes that the press did during the Yeah,

482
00:27:08,647 --> 00:27:11,447
Speaker 2: like he got the whole part right. Yeah. But actually,

483
00:27:11,767 --> 00:27:14,847
Speaker 2: even even when I think about it, I don't even

484
00:27:14,887 --> 00:27:18,247
Speaker 2: know if they showed the violence and the horror. No,

485
00:27:18,327 --> 00:27:19,847
Speaker 2: I don't think they did. No, it was more like

486
00:27:19,887 --> 00:27:21,647
Speaker 2: he's a normal guy who lives with his wife. I

487
00:27:21,687 --> 00:27:24,447
Speaker 2: see dick part. Yeah, if you had a relative that

488
00:27:24,527 --> 00:27:27,007
Speaker 2: was killed by Ted Bundy, you'd be few, you'd be like, Yeah,

489
00:27:27,207 --> 00:27:29,647
Speaker 2: it was very like he's a new heart throat film.

490
00:27:29,767 --> 00:27:31,927
Speaker 2: By the way, beat dubs it's Ted Bundy.

491
00:27:32,127 --> 00:27:32,647
Speaker 3: Yeah.

492
00:27:32,967 --> 00:27:37,647
Speaker 2: Read this tweet. It's a picture of zac Efron. Look,

493
00:27:37,767 --> 00:27:39,647
Speaker 2: I actually didn't think he was his hottest in this

494
00:27:40,647 --> 00:27:42,847
Speaker 2: he was playing Ted Bundy. No, no, but it just

495
00:27:43,007 --> 00:27:46,087
Speaker 2: wasn't really his style. Like his hair was like curled

496
00:27:46,127 --> 00:27:48,407
Speaker 2: and he had bow ties and stuff. It's a tweet

497
00:27:48,447 --> 00:27:51,007
Speaker 2: that says, Hi, I'm Ted Bundy and you're watching Disney Toad.

498
00:27:51,247 --> 00:27:55,047
Speaker 2: It's a confusing pivot. It's a confusing pivot. This very

499
00:27:55,167 --> 00:27:58,767
Speaker 2: much is what the vibe was. Read that tweet, I

500
00:27:58,767 --> 00:28:00,847
Speaker 2: feel so bad for the families of the victims that

501
00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:03,327
Speaker 2: have to sit there and see their terrors revived as

502
00:28:03,327 --> 00:28:06,927
Speaker 2: a witty, romantic thriller. Yeah, and then read this tweet

503
00:28:06,967 --> 00:28:10,687
Speaker 2: down the bottom Ted Bundy rapes murders and estimated one

504
00:28:10,767 --> 00:28:13,527
Speaker 2: hundred sex workers and child Y're but we need to

505
00:28:13,527 --> 00:28:15,607
Speaker 2: see his charismatic side. Oh my god. Plus he was

506
00:28:15,607 --> 00:28:19,527
Speaker 2: so hot. Yeah, okay that and look I looked at

507
00:28:19,567 --> 00:28:23,247
Speaker 2: images of zac Efron next to Ted Bundy, and I

508
00:28:23,287 --> 00:28:25,407
Speaker 2: know it isn't the point of the podcast, but it's

509
00:28:25,527 --> 00:28:30,007
Speaker 2: just just Ted Bundy wasn't hot. Absolutely no resemblance. I mean,

510
00:28:30,087 --> 00:28:34,047
Speaker 2: but then again, that happens with like generations, I know,

511
00:28:34,207 --> 00:28:36,407
Speaker 2: but I just think we've really over egged how hot

512
00:28:36,447 --> 00:28:39,607
Speaker 2: Ted Bundy wash. I've often thought that. Anyway, I sort

513
00:28:39,607 --> 00:28:41,607
Speaker 2: of agree with you that Twitter missed the point a

514
00:28:41,647 --> 00:28:44,407
Speaker 2: little bit. Like the film was obviously meant to contrast

515
00:28:44,447 --> 00:28:47,167
Speaker 2: the charisma and the ordinariness with what the guy did.

516
00:28:47,687 --> 00:28:50,927
Speaker 2: And zac Efron was a producer, so he knew what

517
00:28:51,047 --> 00:28:53,767
Speaker 2: he was trying to do, and obviously it was a

518
00:28:53,807 --> 00:28:57,087
Speaker 2: career pivot he was stepping out of, like you know,

519
00:28:57,247 --> 00:29:01,367
Speaker 2: he'd done New Year's Eve, Yeah, and he needed to

520
00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:03,407
Speaker 2: go and he done game. I'm going to be a

521
00:29:03,447 --> 00:29:07,527
Speaker 2: serious actor. Yeah, who should I play Ted Bundy? Yeah,

522
00:29:07,567 --> 00:29:09,167
Speaker 2: I'm going to play ten and so but we've kind

523
00:29:09,167 --> 00:29:12,287
Speaker 2: of but the problem is that he was too sexy,

524
00:29:12,527 --> 00:29:15,487
Speaker 2: which is that his fault? Maybe? Sorry? Speaking of him

525
00:29:15,527 --> 00:29:18,607
Speaker 2: being a serious actor, the wrestling movie Dying Claw, He's

526
00:29:18,647 --> 00:29:20,767
Speaker 2: gonna win award. Oh, it's so brilliant. He's just so

527
00:29:20,847 --> 00:29:24,327
Speaker 2: excellent a great actor. He'll be even I go, you

528
00:29:24,327 --> 00:29:26,687
Speaker 2: were great then, yeah, but mark my words, he'll be

529
00:29:26,727 --> 00:29:28,807
Speaker 2: winning an Academy Award in the next few years. Not

530
00:29:28,847 --> 00:29:40,687
Speaker 2: for a Family Affair. Finally, his face. There's a movie

531
00:29:40,687 --> 00:29:42,327
Speaker 2: out on Netflix called a Family Affair.

532
00:29:42,367 --> 00:29:44,207
Speaker 3: Because I can't play a blind alcoholic.

533
00:29:44,727 --> 00:29:46,767
Speaker 4: It goes against my iconography.

534
00:29:47,247 --> 00:29:49,567
Speaker 3: My eyes are too pretty to not be on camera.

535
00:29:49,887 --> 00:29:53,967
Speaker 2: I told you we'd see your eyes. Starring Nicole Kidman,

536
00:29:54,247 --> 00:29:57,167
Speaker 2: Joey King, Claire, can you please remind the Council courtroom

537
00:29:57,167 --> 00:30:03,687
Speaker 2: who Joey King is the ex girlfriend of Jacob Aldie. Oh, yes,

538
00:30:05,167 --> 00:30:10,487
Speaker 2: you're gonna say gypsy gypsy ros. But from the kissing booth,

539
00:30:10,807 --> 00:30:12,807
Speaker 2: la la lah, they have history. We need to do

540
00:30:12,927 --> 00:30:16,127
Speaker 2: a big mind map of all the connections in between them.

541
00:30:16,247 --> 00:30:20,407
Speaker 2: And of course Zach I watched five minutes and Luca

542
00:30:20,487 --> 00:30:22,367
Speaker 2: made us turn it off. But I have saved my

543
00:30:22,447 --> 00:30:25,167
Speaker 2: place and shall be returning in bright Okay. That often

544
00:30:25,207 --> 00:30:27,287
Speaker 2: happens with your partner, doesn't it. You go yeah, yeah,

545
00:30:27,327 --> 00:30:29,367
Speaker 2: it's terrible. Yeah, we won't And then I'm like, you

546
00:30:29,407 --> 00:30:31,607
Speaker 2: go on out this week, I've got a movie to watch.

547
00:30:32,527 --> 00:30:35,127
Speaker 2: The headline about this film, which has a thirty nine

548
00:30:35,127 --> 00:30:37,167
Speaker 2: percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which makes me want to

549
00:30:37,167 --> 00:30:39,767
Speaker 2: say more. Is zach Evron's face right, folks.

550
00:30:39,887 --> 00:30:42,567
Speaker 1: Zach Efron's jaw is making headlines again.

551
00:30:42,767 --> 00:30:45,727
Speaker 2: It's different. People on the internet say his face shape

552
00:30:45,727 --> 00:30:47,927
Speaker 2: has changed considerably. You can see in The Iron Claw

553
00:30:47,967 --> 00:30:50,527
Speaker 2: as well, his jaw is more square and his lips

554
00:30:50,567 --> 00:30:53,567
Speaker 2: appear fuller, and everyone's yelling you messed up your face

555
00:30:53,927 --> 00:30:58,487
Speaker 2: and sharing mean comparisons and saying that they feel personally victimized.

556
00:30:58,567 --> 00:31:01,567
Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't know, maybe you need to

557
00:31:01,567 --> 00:31:05,407
Speaker 2: go for a walk. Okay, Dutch some grass touch. He's

558
00:31:05,407 --> 00:31:07,327
Speaker 2: still hot. Though he's still hot in Iron Claw, I

559
00:31:07,367 --> 00:31:08,607
Speaker 2: just think he's okay. Yeah.

560
00:31:08,647 --> 00:31:08,807
Speaker 4: Yeah.

561
00:31:09,247 --> 00:31:13,607
Speaker 2: One has actually addressed his changing face. He says that

562
00:31:13,647 --> 00:31:16,527
Speaker 2: back in twenty thirteen, he was running through his house

563
00:31:16,527 --> 00:31:19,767
Speaker 2: in socks and he tripped and fell on his fountain

564
00:31:20,167 --> 00:31:22,327
Speaker 2: because there was a puddle of water. This is a

565
00:31:22,367 --> 00:31:25,207
Speaker 2: court room, so we need to properly prosecute this story.

566
00:31:26,527 --> 00:31:30,247
Speaker 2: I started by googling granite fountain, okay, because I needed

567
00:31:30,247 --> 00:31:32,327
Speaker 2: a visual. This is what came up on Google. Wat.

568
00:31:32,767 --> 00:31:35,167
Speaker 2: I mean, this is an outdoor fountain. But yeah, that's

569
00:31:35,167 --> 00:31:37,007
Speaker 2: what I was gonna ask. Was I was talking about

570
00:31:37,007 --> 00:31:39,127
Speaker 2: an indoor It's an indoor fountain, and it's indoors at

571
00:31:39,127 --> 00:31:41,087
Speaker 2: his home. Yes, why does he have an indoor found?

572
00:31:41,167 --> 00:31:42,727
Speaker 2: He has addressed that and he said, it's pretty cool.

573
00:31:42,767 --> 00:31:44,527
Speaker 2: I have an indoor found, so he knows that's not

574
00:31:44,567 --> 00:31:46,927
Speaker 2: the knot. But he does have an indoor fountain. But

575
00:31:46,967 --> 00:31:49,127
Speaker 2: then what I did is I tried to find an

576
00:31:49,167 --> 00:31:52,327
Speaker 2: image of the granite fountain inside his house. And I

577
00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:54,567
Speaker 2: could find his house like as in the one that

578
00:31:54,567 --> 00:31:56,007
Speaker 2: he'd bought or whatever. But I think he might have

579
00:31:56,087 --> 00:31:58,407
Speaker 2: installed the granite fountain after he purchased it, because I

580
00:31:58,407 --> 00:32:01,607
Speaker 2: couldn't see an image. Okay. Now I've got some comments

581
00:32:01,887 --> 00:32:07,007
Speaker 2: about the fall, specifically the socks and the water. I

582
00:32:07,127 --> 00:32:13,167
Speaker 2: have slept in my house wearing socks on floorboards, on tiles,

583
00:32:13,607 --> 00:32:16,807
Speaker 2: lots of situations. You know, a bit of water when

584
00:32:16,847 --> 00:32:20,767
Speaker 2: you get out of the shower, slip slip, but when

585
00:32:20,807 --> 00:32:28,727
Speaker 2: you're wearing socks when you step in wet Okay, yes, yes, okay.

586
00:32:28,767 --> 00:32:34,287
Speaker 2: There are two different ways to slip. One is socks,

587
00:32:34,967 --> 00:32:40,887
Speaker 2: dry floor, the other is no socks, wet floor. That's

588
00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:43,887
Speaker 2: they are the two ways. If it slip on a

589
00:32:43,887 --> 00:32:48,687
Speaker 2: granite mountain, yeah, And what I'm confused about is if

590
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:53,607
Speaker 2: you personally have ever slipped on water and socks. Okay,

591
00:32:53,727 --> 00:32:56,567
Speaker 2: what I will say. No I haven't, but this is

592
00:32:56,567 --> 00:32:58,367
Speaker 2: what I will say. And we've talked about this before.

593
00:32:58,767 --> 00:33:01,727
Speaker 2: When you get an injury, you somehow I hit my

594
00:33:01,767 --> 00:33:04,447
Speaker 2: head the other day, like a little while ago, full

595
00:33:04,687 --> 00:33:07,487
Speaker 2: banged my head, huge egg on my head, full bruise.

596
00:33:07,647 --> 00:33:10,847
Speaker 2: I had to call the paramedics. Whenever you have an

597
00:33:10,847 --> 00:33:14,007
Speaker 2: injury as an adult and have to explain how it happened,

598
00:33:14,247 --> 00:33:17,607
Speaker 2: it sounds weird. Sounds like a lie. There's never a

599
00:33:17,647 --> 00:33:20,487
Speaker 2: time when what you were doing leading up to them

600
00:33:21,007 --> 00:33:24,487
Speaker 2: to make makes sense. So me and my partner were

601
00:33:24,487 --> 00:33:28,207
Speaker 2: walking home from dinner. It was five pm. Yeah, So

602
00:33:28,247 --> 00:33:31,047
Speaker 2: the paramedics are like, sorry, you're walking at dinner at

603
00:33:31,047 --> 00:33:34,167
Speaker 2: five pm? Sounds like a lie. We have a baby, right,

604
00:33:34,247 --> 00:33:37,607
Speaker 2: so things are weird. So you had dinner at four yeap, yep,

605
00:33:37,687 --> 00:33:41,247
Speaker 2: And it's like, why were you walking down this street.

606
00:33:41,327 --> 00:33:43,087
Speaker 2: It's not a logical way to walk to our house.

607
00:33:43,327 --> 00:33:45,567
Speaker 2: And then I think I had maybe luberta concussion. I

608
00:33:45,607 --> 00:33:48,127
Speaker 2: was like, oh, we were going to Messina all right

609
00:33:48,487 --> 00:33:51,567
Speaker 2: after our four thirty pm dinner, okay, And there's just

610
00:33:51,607 --> 00:33:54,487
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts like, yeah, why were you

611
00:33:55,207 --> 00:33:57,287
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're covering. Yeah, it sounds like it

612
00:33:57,327 --> 00:34:02,007
Speaker 2: sounds like you've fallen to distract from a drug bust. Yes,

613
00:34:02,327 --> 00:34:05,207
Speaker 2: And it's like were you drinking? And it's like it

614
00:34:05,247 --> 00:34:08,887
Speaker 2: does say I should have been drinking. Fair, fair, fair question,

615
00:34:09,407 --> 00:34:13,047
Speaker 2: and no. No, I am just very odd And every

616
00:34:13,047 --> 00:34:14,847
Speaker 2: time I've injured myself, I've thought that. So in zac

617
00:34:14,887 --> 00:34:18,047
Speaker 2: Efron's defense, the weirder the story, the more I actually

618
00:34:18,087 --> 00:34:20,607
Speaker 2: believe it. Yeah, but I feel like I'm with him

619
00:34:20,647 --> 00:34:24,087
Speaker 2: on falling on the granite fountain. Yeah. I just wonder if,

620
00:34:24,087 --> 00:34:27,567
Speaker 2: in order to make it believable, he's gone slippery and

621
00:34:27,567 --> 00:34:29,687
Speaker 2: then he's gone I'm going to add some slippery details.

622
00:34:30,047 --> 00:34:32,767
Speaker 2: But the two slippery details, it's like two positives equal

623
00:34:32,767 --> 00:34:35,567
Speaker 2: and negative. I think maybe there was water. Yeah, he

624
00:34:35,607 --> 00:34:38,767
Speaker 2: doesn't realize that's not what he slipped on. What did

625
00:34:38,807 --> 00:34:42,047
Speaker 2: he slip on? Just the normal floor, okay, or he

626
00:34:42,087 --> 00:34:45,247
Speaker 2: actually wasn't wearing socks. Yeah, he's just got confused. Yeah, Well,

627
00:34:45,407 --> 00:34:47,927
Speaker 2: he was struck unconscious and when he woke up, his

628
00:34:48,167 --> 00:34:52,007
Speaker 2: chin was hanging from his face, and I googled whether

629
00:34:52,087 --> 00:34:54,287
Speaker 2: hitting your chin can make you unconscious because I also

630
00:34:54,327 --> 00:34:56,647
Speaker 2: want more. Does that check out? No, definitely it does.

631
00:34:56,727 --> 00:35:00,287
Speaker 2: Skull bones going up. Yeah, he had to have his

632
00:35:00,407 --> 00:35:03,687
Speaker 2: mouth wide shut and he needed lots of stitches as

633
00:35:03,687 --> 00:35:06,487
Speaker 2: a result of breaking his jaw. Zach said that his

634
00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:10,487
Speaker 2: other facial muscles, namely the mass te which are used

635
00:35:10,487 --> 00:35:16,767
Speaker 2: for chewing massad mass I'm sorry, what was you know

636
00:35:16,767 --> 00:35:21,367
Speaker 2: why I know it because people talk about getting massive botox. Ah,

637
00:35:21,407 --> 00:35:23,887
Speaker 2: that's the only context is that I've seen TikTok videos

638
00:35:23,927 --> 00:35:28,247
Speaker 2: of people talking about massa okay, grinding. It's the muscles

639
00:35:28,247 --> 00:35:30,127
Speaker 2: that are used for chewing. And the reason that people

640
00:35:30,127 --> 00:35:32,967
Speaker 2: want botox for their grinding is because it will make

641
00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:36,487
Speaker 2: your jaw look bigger. So if you grind or if

642
00:35:36,527 --> 00:35:39,327
Speaker 2: you like overuse those muscles, it can change the shape

643
00:35:39,327 --> 00:35:43,727
Speaker 2: of your jaw. And basically what happened was because it

644
00:35:43,767 --> 00:35:46,887
Speaker 2: was wired shut and he was like grinding, like he

645
00:35:46,927 --> 00:35:49,607
Speaker 2: had his teeth shut. The idea is that it had

646
00:35:49,687 --> 00:35:52,847
Speaker 2: kind of overcompensated and his massaters grew to be really,

647
00:35:52,927 --> 00:35:54,847
Speaker 2: really big, and he was meant to be doing physio,

648
00:35:54,887 --> 00:35:56,247
Speaker 2: but then he had another project he had to go

649
00:35:56,287 --> 00:35:58,527
Speaker 2: and work on, and he didn't do the physioproperly, and

650
00:35:58,567 --> 00:36:01,367
Speaker 2: apparently it grew and grew. I googled it because I

651
00:36:01,407 --> 00:36:04,647
Speaker 2: was like, well, can that happen? And yeah, it can.

652
00:36:05,247 --> 00:36:07,847
Speaker 2: So if this is a lie, like a PR team

653
00:36:07,927 --> 00:36:12,447
Speaker 2: has got a doctor involved and asked a lot of questions.

654
00:36:12,487 --> 00:36:14,767
Speaker 2: Seems a bit funny to be defending him because women's

655
00:36:14,767 --> 00:36:18,247
Speaker 2: appearance is always torn apart, and how often do we

656
00:36:18,287 --> 00:36:21,287
Speaker 2: talk about women ruining their faces with plastic surgery or whatever.

657
00:36:21,607 --> 00:36:24,527
Speaker 2: But I do think it is never appropriate to say that,

658
00:36:24,567 --> 00:36:26,607
Speaker 2: and it is sad because it was an injury in

659
00:36:26,647 --> 00:36:31,567
Speaker 2: a family affair. Zac Efron Actually he references he's due,

660
00:36:32,087 --> 00:36:34,847
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you there's another story. He's saying he

661
00:36:34,887 --> 00:36:37,007
Speaker 2: fell over on set. No mention of a granite film.

662
00:36:37,087 --> 00:36:43,887
Speaker 3: I did, really, Yeah, where that's right here?

663
00:36:44,687 --> 00:36:45,607
Speaker 1: I fell on swet.

664
00:36:45,887 --> 00:36:52,407
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I see it. It's a brookings. Okay, that's

665
00:36:52,447 --> 00:36:55,367
Speaker 2: because it's in a script. I just think that if

666
00:36:55,407 --> 00:36:59,407
Speaker 2: we're gonna go with our sockshoe wet story, provide more

667
00:36:59,447 --> 00:37:02,287
Speaker 2: details through feeling exactly exactly if we're going to provide

668
00:37:02,287 --> 00:37:04,047
Speaker 2: a detail through film. It felt like he had to

669
00:37:04,087 --> 00:37:06,127
Speaker 2: acknowledge it because people are going to talk about the face.

670
00:37:06,647 --> 00:37:08,167
Speaker 2: And he was like, no, I've had an accident. I

671
00:37:08,207 --> 00:37:12,007
Speaker 2: lost my chin on found No, no, no, But he

672
00:37:12,127 --> 00:37:14,647
Speaker 2: talks about a scar. Yeah, he says he nearly died.

673
00:37:14,687 --> 00:37:16,807
Speaker 2: It was very very serious. It's very traumatic for him.

674
00:37:16,807 --> 00:37:20,007
Speaker 2: We shouldn't be laughing. Stop, Claire. It is time for

675
00:37:20,127 --> 00:37:28,847
Speaker 2: charges and sentences on the socks. We need to know

676
00:37:28,887 --> 00:37:31,527
Speaker 2: how wet because there's a point at which obviously socks

677
00:37:31,527 --> 00:37:33,847
Speaker 2: are made of fabric, and we know that the fabric

678
00:37:33,887 --> 00:37:38,647
Speaker 2: can cause resistance which helps us to not fall in wet.

679
00:37:39,487 --> 00:37:42,927
Speaker 2: But were they so wet that has just become foot

680
00:37:43,047 --> 00:37:46,447
Speaker 2: You've taken a few steps and your sock has soaked through,

681
00:37:46,487 --> 00:37:48,807
Speaker 2: so that your sock is no longer sock in terms

682
00:37:48,807 --> 00:37:52,607
Speaker 2: of purpose. Exactly, there's no friction left. We're just slipping around, Yeah,

683
00:37:52,647 --> 00:37:54,607
Speaker 2: which I can see how you would slip. I have

684
00:37:54,647 --> 00:37:57,927
Speaker 2: another question in regards to this, Like we're in a courtroom,

685
00:37:58,127 --> 00:38:01,327
Speaker 2: your zac Efron, and I'm just trusting questions. It's just

686
00:38:01,367 --> 00:38:05,247
Speaker 2: my job. Why the wet? Why the wet? Yes, so

687
00:38:05,287 --> 00:38:07,487
Speaker 2: you have a granite fountain. Love that fear it was

688
00:38:07,527 --> 00:38:11,447
Speaker 2: from the fountain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's he fountain leaking. Yeah,

689
00:38:11,487 --> 00:38:15,887
Speaker 2: it was leaking, and it wasn't leaking. The problem with

690
00:38:15,967 --> 00:38:19,887
Speaker 2: having a fountain inside is that often water does splash

691
00:38:20,167 --> 00:38:23,047
Speaker 2: from the fountain into the outside. Zach Efron, do you

692
00:38:23,047 --> 00:38:25,847
Speaker 2: have a help? Yeah, they were sick that day. I

693
00:38:26,047 --> 00:38:28,567
Speaker 2: just feel as though if I'm zac Efron, I'm not

694
00:38:29,047 --> 00:38:31,607
Speaker 2: mupping up my own floor. I feel as though there's

695
00:38:31,647 --> 00:38:33,527
Speaker 2: a guy. Well, I think the surprise you pay for

696
00:38:33,567 --> 00:38:38,207
Speaker 2: having a fountain indoors, it's why I've not done it,

697
00:38:38,287 --> 00:38:41,487
Speaker 2: because I don't want wet. Yeah, there is another feature

698
00:38:41,527 --> 00:38:45,567
Speaker 2: of a lie. Again, I'm just asking questions where we

699
00:38:45,607 --> 00:38:48,767
Speaker 2: give a few too many details. Right, he didn't trip

700
00:38:48,767 --> 00:38:52,207
Speaker 2: over a fountain. He tripped over granite mountain. It wasn't

701
00:38:52,327 --> 00:38:53,407
Speaker 2: just any socks.

702
00:38:53,447 --> 00:38:53,927
Speaker 3: It was wet.

703
00:38:54,287 --> 00:38:58,407
Speaker 2: That's also those details, the details that you think is

704
00:38:58,447 --> 00:39:03,327
Speaker 2: that relevant also a feature of the truth. That's interesting,

705
00:39:03,567 --> 00:39:06,767
Speaker 2: but a strange. It's like when I'm lying about why

706
00:39:06,887 --> 00:39:11,687
Speaker 2: I'm sick from whack, I'm taking a photo of my vomit, right, Like,

707
00:39:11,727 --> 00:39:16,327
Speaker 2: I'm really over providing on evidence. And I just wonder

708
00:39:16,367 --> 00:39:19,447
Speaker 2: if he had truly fallen, would he say I stipt

709
00:39:19,487 --> 00:39:22,287
Speaker 2: at home it was an injury. I'd like a picture

710
00:39:22,327 --> 00:39:24,007
Speaker 2: of the granite fountain, okay, and I'd like to know

711
00:39:24,007 --> 00:39:25,687
Speaker 2: where it happened. I don't know. I feel like if

712
00:39:25,687 --> 00:39:27,647
Speaker 2: you were chatting to a friend about how you injured yourself,

713
00:39:27,687 --> 00:39:31,407
Speaker 2: sometimes you do provide just a few details. Yeah, okay,

714
00:39:31,567 --> 00:39:34,487
Speaker 2: so you believe me? Yeah? I think I believe him too.

715
00:39:34,527 --> 00:39:36,887
Speaker 2: And was that saying truth is stranger than fiction? Oh

716
00:39:36,927 --> 00:39:41,287
Speaker 2: wow then yeah bo yeah, yeah, yeah, weird of the story,

717
00:39:41,367 --> 00:39:44,367
Speaker 2: the more true. I'm going to go first in the charge.

718
00:39:44,447 --> 00:39:47,047
Speaker 2: I need to talk about New Year's Eve. I saw

719
00:39:47,127 --> 00:39:50,247
Speaker 2: that because he was in it, and that was one

720
00:39:50,367 --> 00:39:53,567
Speaker 2: hour and fifty three minutes of my life I'm not

721
00:39:53,607 --> 00:39:58,047
Speaker 2: getting back. And storylines that don't involve him so many Yes,

722
00:39:58,207 --> 00:40:00,807
Speaker 2: it's like I'm just over here. What was his watching

723
00:40:01,087 --> 00:40:03,327
Speaker 2: Bloody Robert de Niro? If ione to watching Robert de

724
00:40:03,367 --> 00:40:08,887
Speaker 2: Niro film, I'd watch literally any other one. Yeah, I

725
00:40:08,927 --> 00:40:11,327
Speaker 2: need to watch him in New Year's Eve? What is

726
00:40:11,407 --> 00:40:14,247
Speaker 2: zac Efron's storyline in that? I think he's pursuing Michelle Pfeiffer,

727
00:40:14,287 --> 00:40:17,007
Speaker 2: older woman, and she's like, I'm older than you. That's

728
00:40:17,087 --> 00:40:21,287
Speaker 2: kind of hot. It took too long to get to

729
00:40:21,327 --> 00:40:25,167
Speaker 2: the dancing scene as established, and there's actually another crime

730
00:40:25,207 --> 00:40:28,247
Speaker 2: which breaks the rules of court because you shouldn't bring

731
00:40:28,287 --> 00:40:31,367
Speaker 2: up new evidence in the ruling. Or maybe that's debating,

732
00:40:32,167 --> 00:40:34,967
Speaker 2: can't be clear. Yeah, remember a few years ago he

733
00:40:35,007 --> 00:40:37,567
Speaker 2: came to Australia and he started dating a girl.

734
00:40:37,367 --> 00:40:38,207
Speaker 3: In Byron Bay.

735
00:40:38,407 --> 00:40:41,727
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could draw a photo of her from memory.

736
00:40:42,087 --> 00:40:46,047
Speaker 2: That pissed me off, okay, because it was like, well,

737
00:40:46,447 --> 00:40:51,287
Speaker 2: now maybe you are within reach, like you're literally just

738
00:40:51,327 --> 00:40:54,327
Speaker 2: over the plane trip, cheeky ten hour drive from where

739
00:40:54,367 --> 00:40:57,367
Speaker 2: I'm sitting right now to zak Efron, And like I

740
00:40:57,447 --> 00:40:59,607
Speaker 2: know the cafe where she was working that she met him,

741
00:40:59,647 --> 00:41:01,207
Speaker 2: and it's like I could have been at that cafe.

742
00:41:01,527 --> 00:41:05,007
Speaker 2: I could have worked there. Yeah, so we're dating Australians now, Yeah,

743
00:41:05,167 --> 00:41:07,487
Speaker 2: could have let me know and then within ten years

744
00:41:07,487 --> 00:41:10,927
Speaker 2: of my age. And then I thought, so, if we

745
00:41:10,927 --> 00:41:14,807
Speaker 2: were open to dating everyday goals, how about when I

746
00:41:14,847 --> 00:41:19,807
Speaker 2: met you? Yeah, and why didn't we flag that so

747
00:41:19,887 --> 00:41:21,487
Speaker 2: that a few of us could get a shot? Good?

748
00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:24,087
Speaker 2: Because it nearly ruined my relationship with my husband, the

749
00:41:24,087 --> 00:41:28,127
Speaker 2: father of my child. It did, yeah, because I went,

750
00:41:28,487 --> 00:41:30,927
Speaker 2: all right, there's a chance that the man from high school,

751
00:41:30,967 --> 00:41:33,927
Speaker 2: musical man in bad neighbors, who I think is a

752
00:41:33,927 --> 00:41:36,487
Speaker 2: real laugh and does a sexy dance in Newar's Eve.

753
00:41:37,327 --> 00:41:39,567
Speaker 2: He's just over there. It's just picking up girls, just

754
00:41:39,567 --> 00:41:41,967
Speaker 2: looking for love. He could dance just for me, and

755
00:41:42,007 --> 00:41:48,287
Speaker 2: he likes the Australian accent. Apparently that relationship did end.

756
00:41:47,967 --> 00:41:53,687
Speaker 2: It did end because she wasn't right, Oh, because you're right, okay, yes, yes,

757
00:41:53,967 --> 00:41:58,007
Speaker 2: but he was getting warmer my sentences. I'll forgive any

758
00:41:58,127 --> 00:42:00,527
Speaker 2: film if he dances at the end. And that's what

759
00:42:00,607 --> 00:42:02,567
Speaker 2: I learned from New Year's Eve, which brings me to

760
00:42:02,647 --> 00:42:05,687
Speaker 2: Ted Bundy. Oh he needed a little there was a

761
00:42:05,727 --> 00:42:10,287
Speaker 2: film missing a dance, or if a dance feels inappropriate,

762
00:42:10,567 --> 00:42:12,047
Speaker 2: the film's not for you, Zach.

763
00:42:14,007 --> 00:42:14,367
Speaker 1: Said.

764
00:42:14,447 --> 00:42:17,847
Speaker 2: Well said, so maybe that's a good test, litmus test.

765
00:42:17,927 --> 00:42:20,487
Speaker 2: Ted Bundy isn't playing to your strengths. Whereas, look, I

766
00:42:20,527 --> 00:42:23,727
Speaker 2: don't condone anything Ted Bundy did. Bad guy. I'm on

767
00:42:23,767 --> 00:42:26,647
Speaker 2: the record of saying that. But zac Efron dancing even

768
00:42:26,687 --> 00:42:28,567
Speaker 2: as Ted Bundy I ould have watched it, okay, and

769
00:42:28,567 --> 00:42:31,647
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind. Just as the credits roll. Okay, it

770
00:42:31,687 --> 00:42:33,607
Speaker 2: made sense in the wrestling movie for him to do

771
00:42:33,647 --> 00:42:35,727
Speaker 2: a dance. It could make sense for Ted Bundy to

772
00:42:35,767 --> 00:42:38,807
Speaker 2: do a little hip hop. Okay, do a break dance.

773
00:42:38,887 --> 00:42:43,167
Speaker 2: That's fine. Old Wait, Claire, what's your charge? My charge

774
00:42:43,367 --> 00:42:49,327
Speaker 2: is doing things that aren't playing to his strengths slash talents. Okay,

775
00:42:49,447 --> 00:42:52,447
Speaker 2: so when we take on a role that isn't You're

776
00:42:52,447 --> 00:42:55,327
Speaker 2: a triple threat, mate, so you're dancing acting yeah yeah,

777
00:42:55,487 --> 00:42:58,447
Speaker 2: and your faith and your face for your quadruple threat.

778
00:42:59,247 --> 00:43:03,687
Speaker 2: And so I want things that really play to that.

779
00:43:03,847 --> 00:43:06,807
Speaker 2: So for example, wrestling movie, I exclusively refer to it

780
00:43:06,847 --> 00:43:08,767
Speaker 2: as wrestling movie. I don't know the name. It's called

781
00:43:08,767 --> 00:43:11,567
Speaker 2: the Iron Claw. It was so good. Same with the

782
00:43:11,567 --> 00:43:13,367
Speaker 2: Greatest Showman. I think that that was some of zach

783
00:43:13,407 --> 00:43:18,567
Speaker 2: Efronitty's best because he could triple threat yeah, singing, dancing, kissing, yeah, zendaat,

784
00:43:18,607 --> 00:43:21,007
Speaker 2: et cetera. There wasn't enough singing dancing in Ted Bundy.

785
00:43:21,567 --> 00:43:23,767
Speaker 2: And another way that he's not playing to his strengths.

786
00:43:23,807 --> 00:43:27,047
Speaker 2: It's when all these drugs and alcohol and homeless man

787
00:43:27,127 --> 00:43:31,327
Speaker 2: encounter boys stop that no that's not playing to your strengths. Well,

788
00:43:31,367 --> 00:43:33,487
Speaker 2: he had a moment he said, I've learnt from it.

789
00:43:33,647 --> 00:43:35,807
Speaker 2: Yeah that was ten years ago. Well, I'm glad he's

790
00:43:35,807 --> 00:43:37,727
Speaker 2: off the drugs and hour so you can focus more

791
00:43:37,767 --> 00:43:43,127
Speaker 2: on his skills. Yes, well, no sentence. Zach Efron needs

792
00:43:43,127 --> 00:43:46,287
Speaker 2: a TikTok where he dances. I don't understand why his

793
00:43:46,327 --> 00:43:51,247
Speaker 2: people haven't set that up. Yeah, genuinely quit everything else, mate,

794
00:43:51,607 --> 00:43:55,047
Speaker 2: and just dance on TikTok. Should he do like a

795
00:43:55,127 --> 00:43:59,687
Speaker 2: jojo Siwakoma? No, because I get the ick that would

796
00:43:59,687 --> 00:44:03,087
Speaker 2: be ikey. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but just I

797
00:44:03,487 --> 00:44:07,207
Speaker 2: want more dance, access to more dancing. I think he's

798
00:44:07,207 --> 00:44:08,727
Speaker 2: trying to move away from that is a sense I

799
00:44:08,727 --> 00:44:12,367
Speaker 2: get from the eye. Oh yeah, it'd be taken seriously.

800
00:44:12,447 --> 00:44:14,847
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, him and Timothy Shall and I can

801
00:44:14,887 --> 00:44:18,087
Speaker 2: do a dance together. Oh oh, anyway, So I need

802
00:44:18,087 --> 00:44:20,727
Speaker 2: more dancing, and TikTok is a lovely accessible way for

803
00:44:20,767 --> 00:44:23,207
Speaker 2: me to get it. I love that. Thank you so

804
00:44:23,327 --> 00:44:25,927
Speaker 2: much for joining us on this episode of Canceled. The

805
00:44:25,967 --> 00:44:30,447
Speaker 2: executive producer of Canceled is Toelyssiberzazz, with audio editing. Bye

806
00:44:30,487 --> 00:44:34,287
Speaker 2: tom Lyon we are gonna post the pictures Ted Bundy

807
00:44:34,327 --> 00:44:36,007
Speaker 2: what he looks like, a picture of a granite moountain

808
00:44:36,047 --> 00:44:38,327
Speaker 2: that now exists in my phone, and and that video

809
00:44:38,687 --> 00:44:41,567
Speaker 2: of him dancing at the end of mm Onto, The

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Speaker 2: Twins underscore thoughts on Instagram, and if you have a

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Speaker 2: lazy girl story then please send it through to podcasts

812
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Speaker 2: at mummea dot com dot au. We will be back

813
00:44:50,447 --> 00:44:50,927
Speaker 2: next week.

814
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Speaker 3: Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Before we go. If you are looking for something else

816
00:44:58,767 --> 00:45:02,887
Speaker 2: to listen to, then I have fantastic news because someone

817
00:45:02,927 --> 00:45:07,047
Speaker 2: I know, Claire Spoiler, it's you just did a whole

818
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Speaker 2: season of h chart topping podcast called but are you happy?

819
00:45:11,847 --> 00:45:14,407
Speaker 2: All the episodes are now available and you can go

820
00:45:14,447 --> 00:45:16,167
Speaker 2: and listen to them. Claire, what are some of the

821
00:45:16,207 --> 00:45:18,407
Speaker 2: highlights from the season you've just done. It's weird that

822
00:45:18,447 --> 00:45:20,487
Speaker 2: you're not taking the piss out of me, so it's

823
00:45:20,487 --> 00:45:22,847
Speaker 2: just an awkward dynamic right now. But some of the

824
00:45:22,887 --> 00:45:27,567
Speaker 2: people I've interviewed for this season are media personality Laura Burt,

825
00:45:28,767 --> 00:45:34,927
Speaker 2: musical theater star Rob Mills, Olympic gold medalist around Tipmas,

826
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Speaker 2: comedian Josh Thomas. We've got Brooke Blurton. We've got actress

827
00:45:39,607 --> 00:45:43,167
Speaker 2: and Gowerie Rice, who is in Mean Girls, and there

828
00:45:43,167 --> 00:45:48,247
Speaker 2: are just so many fascinating conversations on this season about

829
00:45:48,487 --> 00:45:51,887
Speaker 2: what happens when you get everything that you want and

830
00:45:52,047 --> 00:45:55,407
Speaker 2: how it doesn't feel how you would think it feels.

831
00:45:56,087 --> 00:45:59,847
Speaker 2: We talk about people who would trade what they have

832
00:46:00,687 --> 00:46:03,687
Speaker 2: in terms of success for something else that they feel

833
00:46:03,727 --> 00:46:06,847
Speaker 2: is missing in their lives, to talk about jealousy, regret,

834
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Speaker 2: me mental health, mental health. And it's a season that

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Speaker 2: I think everyone will find something that resonates with them.

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00:46:15,087 --> 00:46:17,887
Speaker 2: You haven't referenced the biggest endorsement of this season, I said,

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00:46:17,967 --> 00:46:19,647
Speaker 2: chart topping. I think Apple chose it as one of

838
00:46:19,687 --> 00:46:22,527
Speaker 2: their best podcasts last year, but that means nothing in

839
00:46:22,567 --> 00:46:25,367
Speaker 2: comparison to the endorsement You've got, which was from one

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00:46:25,367 --> 00:46:28,967
Speaker 2: Anne Stevens, who did share the Rob Mills episode just

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Speaker 2: with the two words He's gorgeous. Okay, okay, I just

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Speaker 2: got the hots for Rob Mills. Yeah she does, which

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Speaker 2: is like, I mean, I ambushed him and he came in,

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Speaker 2: and I think there was an ambush. Yes, not appropriate.

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Speaker 2: I yelled, you're my husband, yeah, which isn't. He's engaged, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't.

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Speaker 4: YEA.

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Speaker 2: The last season, Your Bloody interviewed his fiance, so it's

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Speaker 2: just all getting very awkward. If you want to hear

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Speaker 2: that awkwardness Claire blowing up a future marriage, then listen

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Speaker 2: to the later season of But Are You Happy. There

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Speaker 2: is a link in the show note. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for listening to our canceled episode all about zac Efron.

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