WEBVTT - Would You Go Topless In Front Of Your Dad? 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.600 Welcome to Mom and me are out loud. It's what 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.520 women are actually talking about on Friday. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:12.920 The twenty first of August. I'm Meya Friedman. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:18.160 I'm your name was first in the script, and funnily enough, 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:19.920 even though I do know my name quite well, I'm 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:21.640 still looking at it in the script. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:22.320 It's okay. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.959 I'm really a lester. If anyone cares, you are, I 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.040 do care. I'm still here for Holly. I'm sorry about that. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.880 None of us are happy. And also I'm wearing a 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.720 Rustley jacket, so add to the list of people who 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.760 are unhappy or our producers who because I'm rustling. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.520 It's like shoe jewelry all over again. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.239 If he's watching the show, you wouldn't realize what like 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:43.239 season we're in. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.479 We look like, you know, Justin Bieber and Hailey Bieber 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.559 are always dressed for completely different occasions. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.120 Yes, that's us. I bags. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.760 Haley Amelia is in like a hale bright orange. I'd 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.360 say floor orange, cashmere t shirte m. You are in 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.440 a khaki hole to neck, going out in top singlet 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:04.120 jeans in a. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:05.880 Nice top jean's a nice top and I'm in a 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.399 windbreaker with a jaunty neckwork. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.240 What does that say? What she thinks is going to 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.160 happen on this podcast? But she's wearing a windbreaker. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:19.840 Guys, it's very in right now, okay, And I'm still looking. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:20.800 For a cape? 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.800 What sort of caps? I find a hold of cape? 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.640 Which we spoke about on our Subscribe episode on Tuesday 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.080 that Dane Hathaway was wearing. And I'm also not wearing 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.840 a fake pregnant belly, not that she was, but some 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.800 people are saying, Oh, anyway, here's what's on our agenda 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:38.319 for today. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.920 One celebrity couple has this and another does not. We're 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.080 talking chemistry and why it can't be faked. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.360 Plus everyone is doing a cleanse. I however, I am doing 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.080 a clog and I'm going to teach. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.400 You how I like wearing clogs. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.080 Also, would you go topless in front of your dad? 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.680 I'm just gonna give you a second to think about that. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.040 I hope you're not driving or even eating or listening 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.400 with your dad, although some people would. One famous woman 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.840 just did, and the internet has questions and you can't speak. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.519 Is that the mental picture in your head about being 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.720 topless in front of your dad? 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.520 I'm sorry this was not expecting that. Oh my god. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.720 Okay, in case you see's why Holy should be here. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:25.200 In case you miss it. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:30.120 Water bottles are shrinking physically, Yes, so we all know 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.560 our emotional water bottles, emotional support water bottles. This is 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.720 mine here, it's a mammamea one. We have Frank Green ones. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.359 A water bottle says a lot about who you are 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.680 as a person. Mine has race cars on it and straw. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.040 How many leaders is that? 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.560 Because when we moved officers as a welcome gift to everybody, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.120 we all got our own water bottles, right, and that 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:50.639 looks to. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:51.560 Me like two leaders? 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.400 Is it's one leader, one lead and that just and 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.480 even when it's empty, it's still pretty heavy. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:02.320 It's very heavy. A fact about these kind of like 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.160 metal water bottles we have Frank Green. There's also a 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.480 Wala and Stanley cups. Is that when you drop them 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.679 they make the sound equivalent to a car crash. Yeah, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.400 they're quite lad, quite alarming. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.440 Also, why do we all need to be hydrated all 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:17.959 the time? 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:19.799 Well, you meant to have like two liters of water 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:20.400 a day. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.120 If you're a supermodel man. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.280 But we all have our water bottles. We're very attached 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.200 to them. What we've noticed is that these water bottles 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.680 are getting smaller and smaller. Mia you have a slightly 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.480 smaller one than the rest of us. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.520 I obviously lost the first one that I was given 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.480 and so given by myself because I also am the 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.480 co founder of the business. But anyway, I lost it. 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.880 So I went and bought one the other day. But 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.800 the problem with those big ones, the one Leader ones, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.800 is that they don't fit in a well. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.000 They're just very heavy. Also, they don't fit in your car, yeah, properly. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.680 And I like to stay hydrated because I'm basically a 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.120 camel and so I try to carry a water bottle 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.400 around with me to drink more. But I had to 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.680 buy a slightly smaller one, so I think mine's about 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:06.320 half the size. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:07.560 I guess it's half a Leader. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.640 It looks neater as well. I was in Kmart last 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.720 weekend and they had a row of what they called 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.680 micro water bottles, which were two hundred mL water, which 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:17.960 I think. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.640 Is like a dress box literally. As I want to know, 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.640 given that this is an emotional support water bottle, what 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.039 does it say about where we're at. I've usually just 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:28.800 hit peak water sizing. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.520 Yeah, we've hit peak water bottle. I think we're tired 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:32.520 of having them as weights. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.320 I also think we're well now we're lifting actual weights 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:36.080 because we need to. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.919 We're probably throwing our back out. But also, there's only 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.919 so much time you can spend sitting on a toilet 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.760 in a date. And I know this because I spend 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.560 a lot of it on the toilet, because my bladder 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.320 is the size of a thimble. That's all the end 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:53.840 of the segment. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.040 A question to. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.160 Consider, if you've recovered from the mental picture in your 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.840 head as you go about your weekend. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.919 Consider this, would you go topless in front of your dad? 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.279 Because someone who answered someone whose answer to this question 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.760 is hell, yeah. There's a woman called Brooks Nader who 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:19.800 I have spent quite a lot of. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.080 Time looking at. A picture came out this week. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:24.800 I'm going to ask you in a second who she 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.719 is and because I didn't know, but what I have 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.240 been looking at is some pictures of her on a 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.640 yacht in Sardinia, off the coast of Sardinia. I don't 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:38.120 know where Sardinia is, but she's topless, and that's fine. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:39.760 Who cares boobs? 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:46.760 But her dad is right next to her and he's 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.000 not blinking. He's not like, he's not leering or anything. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:54.120 But she's just casually topless, and he's just casually just 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.479 talking to her or whatever. And he may not blink, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.440 but the internet did before. We can talk about the action, 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.120 both of our own and the internets. Three fun facts 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.320 about Brooks Nader. If we don't know who she is, 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:07.600 which I don't, she. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.640 Became famous as being like an it girl. She was 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.760 on the cover of Sports Illustrated. She's also like a 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.600 new generation of Kardashian. She has a reality TV show 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:24.840 on Hulu with her three other sisters called Love Thy Nada. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.359 Biblical, Jimmy Kimmel. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:29.560 Jimmy kim He's the. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.919 One who's basically been the starmaker for Brooks. What do 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.440 you mean exactly what I just said? And I can't 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:37.480 take further questions? 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.120 Okay, interesting? So what's interesting? 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.000 If you go straight to the comments section, which I did, 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.640 half of the comments are saying she's in Europe relaxed. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.600 Americans are just so uptight about their bodies, Amelia, can 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.240 you confirm? 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.600 Look, this is nightmare fuel to me? 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.880 Are a millions? Are a milions more? 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.760 Up type in Australians and Europeans about nudity. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.520 Do you think a little. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.160 Bit, I'd say a little bit. I noticed that in 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:14.400 Australia maybe people wearing more kind of g string swimmers 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:15.720 regularly to the beach. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:16.880 Oh yeah, I forgot about it. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.120 Although I will point out that when I was growing 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.320 up in the nineteen nineties, I'd go to the beach 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.440 in Sydney and I'd see a lot of women what's 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.680 the term sunbathing topless? I was one of them, and 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.239 now they're gone, and that makes me a little bit sad. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.000 Well, half of the other half of the comments were 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:39.800 basically responding to the European comments with that that family 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:44.040 is from Louisiana. You don't get to be claim European 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.400 habits just because you've been there on holiday for a 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:47.080 week and a half. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.520 I thought, you have to immerse yourself into the culture. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.640 Well, it's interesting this idea, and people do have their 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.080 boobs out a lot more in Europe, it's true, and 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.960 in Australia, you're right, you see it. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:58.480 A lot less. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.000 It is probably so smart. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.840 I also think it's because of phones, because there's one 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.120 thing being on a beach topless, another being on the 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:07.960 internet top. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.560 Less, which happened to Brooks. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.600 Well, yes, that's what happened to Brooks. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.720 But this idea of being nude in front of people 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:21.040 who aren't your intimate partner got us talking about something 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:26.040 called the prude Index, which was an expression coined by 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.840 someone we work with and their group. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.640 Chat, which is called the Hot Girl group Chat. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:32.240 Great name. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.199 They say it's ironic and that I'm not going to 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.359 tell you who they are because they're a little bit embarrassed. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.640 Any weird group chat names. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.040 I have some like I don't know if I'm allowed 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.200 to say, I actually think. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:45.720 Is it rude and inappropriate? 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:50.080 There's rude and inappropriate and involves the name of substances. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.840 Okay, Amelia, I do they're in jokes? 0:08:54.040 --> 0:09:00.640 Okay you yes, I can't say no. I've got one 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:01.360 called growlers. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:02.680 That's my favorite. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.240 I can't explain why that is anyway, the prude Index. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.040 So this group of girls, they were talking about being prudes, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.960 right or not being prudes, and how the prude index 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.199 has two axes. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:17.800 One is that's the. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.079 First time you've ever said the word axes on the show. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:21.760 I don't say load. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:27.240 One of them is how comfortable you are with talking 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.560 about sex in front of your friends, for example. The 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.920 other is how comfortable you are being nude in front 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.400 of your friends or people who aren't your intimate party. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:37.839 Because that's different. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:39.400 Yeah, you might be high. 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.960 You might get a lot of points for being very 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.359 comfortable talking about. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.160 Your sex life or about sex, but. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:49.000 Then you're not comfortable maybe showing your boobs to your 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.000 friends or getting changed in front of your friends. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.240 And I would say probably, Well, parents are a whole 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.000 other story. Amelia, we do you think you rate? 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.200 I've just said Amelia and looked at them. Sorry, I'm 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.440 just thinking of everybody's boobs. I don't know what to say. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.640 I'm just looking at you both and just thinking I 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.360 don't really care. Like you could get your boobs out now, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.400 I could get my boobs out now and not really care. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.280 I think I'm high on the like sex open. I 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.360 want to say the opposite of prude. I am very 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.560 comfortable talking about sex with friends. I think when it 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:25.160 comes to the nudity part of things, I think I 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.000 am a bit more prudish. I feel like I could 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.440 go topless, but I can't do full vadge out. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.840 When it comes to nudity. I think two things. There's 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.360 kind of two variables on these axes. One is culture 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.840 and one is age, so or maybe life stage. I 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.240 mean to say so on stage, I think if you 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:50.480 have given birth, you are very unlikely to care about 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.319 nudity in the same way. Ever, again, do you think 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:53.800 that's true. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.080 That's a bit of a conngrension. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.480 As a mother, I no longer care. And then on 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.880 the on the culture point, when I lived in Japan, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.880 which I know is another annoying sentence, I already started 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.960 a sentence as a mother. But when I lived in Japan, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.559 I realized that when you go to the public barths there, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.960 they are sex separated, but you do not wear clothes, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:21.160 so no swimmers in the barths, and you realize that, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.640 I think, if you see enough different types of actual bodies, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.920 they completely lose their mystique and you get over your 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.240 own insecurities about it because you realize that no one 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:34.960 else cares. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.520 I used to go to a Korean bath house in 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.720 my probably my twenties, probably before I had kids, actually, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.760 and I found it really quite confronting. Not confronting looking 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.760 at other women's bodies, but just there are so few 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.000 times when you're naked, like once you you know, most 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.560 people aren't even naked in their own house much. I 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:56.400 had everyone in my. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.520 House was out the other day. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.840 I can't remember why or where they were, but I 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.839 knew they were out and I was naked in my house. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.320 I think some of them were actually out of the country. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.120 And I was naked in my house, and I thought, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:13.679 I'm never ever naked for any length of time. Because also, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.000 once you have children, and they're not little children anymore. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.360 I mean when they're little, your body's their body, like 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:25.320 they don't even just differentiate. But then they get to 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.480 a certain age where they don't want you to see 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.280 them and they don't want to see you, and you've 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.360 got to respect that, even if you're in a naked house, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.880 because it's not just what they're comfortable with you seeing, 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.640 it's what they're comfortable seeing. And I think it's around 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.280 puberty that kids stop wanting to see their parents nude, 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.840 because that's when they're starting to think about all that stuff. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:53.240 But what's really interesting is that I never it never 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.720 changes for me, like I'm happy to go to the 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.560 toilet in front of my kids or for my kids 0:12:58.559 --> 0:12:59.280 to see me nude. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:00.719 I don't care like they're like in a. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.520 Category of I mean, I can't think like, yeah, you 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.080 know what I mean my parents, however, I mean my mom. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.720 I wouldn't care my dad seen me. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.120 So are you saying though, in general, on this graph, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.920 you are neither brutish about sex nor nudity. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.720 Yes, yes, and that's probably a later thing. I agree 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:22.960 with you. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.280 So you changed after I had kids, also as I 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.360 got older, like when I was in my twenties and stuff. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.440 We would never talk about vibrators and all of that 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.440 kind of stuff. And even though I worked at like 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.240 Cosmo and Cleo, we would never talk about our you know, 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.840 sex toys, or we wouldn't We wouldn't really talk about 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.320 our own stay wives much. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.240 What's so interesting is that information about sex was so 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.800 much more gate kept than the sealed sections. The whole 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.920 concept of a sealed section is just absurd these days. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.719 I think there's also a difference between going nude for necessity, 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.760 So like if you were on holiday with your girlfriends 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.679 and you sharing a room, there's a difference between like 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.880 being comfortable having your boobs out if you're changing, compared 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.080 to having your boobs out and before you put your 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:10.600 next top on. You're having a conversation. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.680 Oh yeah, which is there? Which is what Brooks Nader 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.840 was sort of doing on that boat. I don't have 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.480 a sister, and neither is Amelia. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.400 What's it like with a sister. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.520 Oh it's fine, it's so fun. Always forever full frontal, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.920 always forever full frontal. I think I have a friend though, who, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.880 like well into her like early twenties, would still like 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.520 shower with her sister. Sorry, yeah, that's odd. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.360 Is it? 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.160 I don't have a sister. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.200 I've got nothing to measure it. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.800 But then she was like that is like so like, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.520 why wouldn't you like it's really like, if I'm in 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:45.920 the shower and she needs to use a shower, we'll 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:46.640 just shower together. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:47.680 What about your mum? 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.320 Mom's fine, Yeah, mom's fine. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.880 But when I was a teenager and i'd be shopping 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.160 for clothes, remember how fraught that was coming. You just 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:00.320 feel such crippling self consciousness about taking your clothes. And 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.120 they used to be these communal change room sometimes to 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.240 remember those, I don't think they have any more, probably 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.440 for phone reasons as well. And I remember my heart 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.920 would always sink because it'd be like, I cannot get 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.120 changed in front of these chranger. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.040 Yeah, it is pretty funny when your kids are like, no, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.920 you can't come in. I'm not, and I'm like, I've 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.560 seen it before, Bloody made it. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:17.160 I cooked that. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:18.160 Yeah. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.320 Anyway, it's interesting because the sister thing changes it for me. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.720 The fact that the dad of Brooks Nader has three daughters. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.800 Somehow that was an important data point in when I 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.440 was like, she was comfortable. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:32.040 Didn't make it better. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.800 Well, because I've got friends who either have lots of 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.760 sisters or like hat or lots of daughters. And when 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.760 you were in a girl house, the dad just has 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.960 to muck in, Like the dad's almost just not there. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.200 Yeah, So it's like because there are. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.120 So many girls and just like maybe one guy, the 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:53.720 dynamic is just different. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.720 Out ladders in a moment, the couple who has it 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.640 and the couple who doesn't spot the difference. It was 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.440 the photos which first stopped my scroll this weekend. I 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.920 saw Kerry Russell and Matthew Reese, two TV actors, in 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.200 the new issue of Variety, in matching double denim. They 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.960 were out in the woods somewhere. Let me just paint 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.640 you this picture they're out in the woods. They're genuinely 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.760 enjoying each other's company. In one of the shots, Kerry 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:23.000 is cuddled into Matthew's jacket. In another, she's cracking up 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.600 as he mugs for the camera. I don't even know 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.400 these actors very well. Obviously, Kerry Russell was in Felicity, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.840 then she's in The Diplomats. Matthew Reese is most recently 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.440 in Widow's Bay. But it wasn't even them as actors 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.960 that caught me. It was the way they related to 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:42.880 each other. Maybe heterosexuality is real. Read a top comment. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.800 I thought, age appropriate couple in Hollywood who look their 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.320 age and radiate love. What a gift? Read another What 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:51.440 a gift? I loved that. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.960 Didn't they meet while they were doing The Americans? Everyone 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:56.880 raves about that show, but I've never watched it. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.440 That's part of what's so interesting about this is that 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.160 their relationship did start in Scandal, so they were both 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.000 cast on The Americans. Around twenty twelve, Kerrie was married, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.680 she already had two kids, and there was a lot 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.520 of intrigue around the timeline of when she and her 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.640 first husband separated. But then eventually she and Matthew were 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.439 clearly an idem. They confirmed their relationship a couple of 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.320 years after Kerry announced her separation from her first husband. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:25.520 But that's what's so interesting. 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.439 So they met when they played a couple of secret 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.040 agents I think on The Americans. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:32.800 Yep, oh, that's interesting. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.760 And then four years after they met on that set, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.800 they announced that they were expecting a child, so they 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.720 now co parenting three children together. Matthew actually addressed these 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.360 somewhat scandalous beginnings in this recent New York Times interview. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.360 I want to talk about Kerrie Russell. She's your partner, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:50.240 thank god. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:57.800 Yes, she's also an extraordinary actor. You first work together 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.240 in The Americans, which is just one of my all 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.119 time favorite shows. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:04.439 What is it like to fall in love with your 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.920 coach star kind of I remember at the time going, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:12.719 oh no, because I wouldn't advise it. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.920 You question it because because you know you're playing a 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:17.119 romantic partner. 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.040 So you're going, hang on, you know, let's be very 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.720 serious about this, and you know, carry out two kids. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.400 And it wasn't something I was going to enter too lightly. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:34.240 And then sometimes you can't fight it, you know, it's ordained. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:35.240 I had no. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.520 Idea he was, well, I was like, here's that man. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.080 And what you can't hear in that clip is literally 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.440 whenever either of them talks about the other one, they 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.480 just like break out into this full face smile. They 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.479 cannot stop smiling when they talk about each other. And 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.120 it's not that they talk about each other a lot. 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.840 Lady Gossip had a piece this week about the Variety 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.560 interview and she observed that they don't perform their celebrity 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.120 as a cup this it is very rare. 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.399 I didn't even realize or like, I knew nothing about 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.840 them as a couple, Like I know of their work, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.240 but they're not like famous famous. 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.000 They're not like you know, tomm and Zendeya or like 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:15.680 Nicole and Keith. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.160 The kind of ideal level of fame. Matthew actually says 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.399 that he's famous enough to get a good table at 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.560 a restaurant and then he can eat his meal there 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.080 in peace, which is I think the perfect level of fame. 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.919