1 00:00:11,074 --> 00:00:14,695 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to You Beauty, the daily podcast for 2 00:00:14,695 --> 00:00:18,614 Speaker 1: your face. On Wednesdays, we chat through what's making headlines 3 00:00:18,614 --> 00:00:20,965 Speaker 1: in Beauty land, and my name is Lee Campbell, 4 00:00:21,015 --> 00:00:23,494 Speaker 2: and I'm Erin Doherty. Hello. How are 5 00:00:23,494 --> 00:00:23,654 Speaker 1: you? 6 00:00:24,335 --> 00:00:27,175 Speaker 2: Good. I've got some exciting news that I've just seen. 7 00:00:27,345 --> 00:00:31,494 Speaker 2: Tell me, Melbourne, Mecca at High Point has just launched 8 00:00:31,494 --> 00:00:33,054 Speaker 2: Mecca Aesthetica. Oh, 9 00:00:33,134 --> 00:00:33,585 Speaker 1: what's that? 10 00:00:33,695 --> 00:00:38,244 Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically, it's a concept that is dedicated to 11 00:00:38,244 --> 00:00:39,134 Speaker 2: clinical skin. 12 00:00:39,365 --> 00:00:44,205 Speaker 2: Service. So it's like everything from like LED therapy to peels, microneedling, 13 00:00:44,365 --> 00:00:44,444 Speaker 2: so 14 00:00:44,444 --> 00:00:45,644 Speaker 1: it's 15 00:00:45,644 --> 00:00:48,394 Speaker 1: serious stuff. No fluff, just resolves. No fluff, 16 00:00:48,444 --> 00:00:52,065 Speaker 2: just like, get in there. You've got skin experts. 17 00:00:52,185 --> 00:00:52,214 Speaker 1: That is so 18 00:00:52,214 --> 00:00:53,245 Speaker 2: pop up. It's 19 00:00:53,245 --> 00:00:53,525 Speaker 1: so 20 00:00:53,525 --> 00:00:53,644 Speaker 2: cool. 21 00:00:53,764 --> 00:00:55,005 Speaker 1: Oh, I wonder if it's coming elsewhere. 22 00:00:55,514 --> 00:00:56,405 Speaker 2: Me to Sydney. 23 00:00:56,484 --> 00:00:58,124 Speaker 1: I better come to Sydney and the rest of the country. 24 00:00:58,245 --> 00:01:01,734 Speaker 1: We can't just vote for Sydney. What are we chatting 25 00:01:01,734 --> 00:01:02,354 Speaker 1: about today? 26 00:01:02,444 --> 00:01:05,324 Speaker 2: OK, so we heard a rumor that a salon in 27 00:01:05,324 --> 00:01:07,525 Speaker 2: Sydney is doing a facial that costs. 28 00:01:10,624 --> 00:01:12,505 Speaker 2: $20,000. 29 00:01:13,644 --> 00:01:17,554 Speaker 2: Yep, yep yep, sitting down. We're gonna chat about what's 30 00:01:17,554 --> 00:01:20,455 Speaker 2: involved with that and why it costs so much. Plus, 31 00:01:20,595 --> 00:01:23,355 Speaker 2: there's a new lash hack that gives your lashes the 32 00:01:23,355 --> 00:01:25,675 Speaker 2: perfect curl without actually curling. 33 00:01:25,804 --> 00:01:27,554 Speaker 1: I'm scared. You're gonna make me try 34 00:01:27,554 --> 00:01:27,745 Speaker 1: it. 35 00:01:27,864 --> 00:01:29,474 Speaker 2: We both look very bold right now 36 00:01:29,474 --> 00:01:29,675 Speaker 1: we're 37 00:01:29,675 --> 00:01:32,234 Speaker 1: very nude. We've come in with no lash eye makeup 38 00:01:32,234 --> 00:01:35,194 Speaker 1: on to do it and I'm terrified. But first, we 39 00:01:35,194 --> 00:01:37,584 Speaker 1: are back again today with yet another. 40 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:42,029 Speaker 1: So my friend Erin, there is a very exciting new 41 00:01:42,029 --> 00:01:45,459 Speaker 1: brand that has just launched into Australia. It's called AHC. 42 00:01:45,669 --> 00:01:49,590 Speaker 1: It is currently the #1 skincare brand in Korea, and 43 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:52,190 Speaker 1: they have this sort of hero cult product called Real 44 00:01:52,190 --> 00:01:55,859 Speaker 1: Eye Cream for face. In Korea, one is sold every 45 00:01:55,859 --> 00:01:59,379 Speaker 1: 3 seconds. That's pretty impressive. So it's finally available in 46 00:01:59,379 --> 00:02:02,069 Speaker 1: Australia in Priceline. They've got a massive 47 00:02:02,264 --> 00:02:06,785 Speaker 1: range, and they say that their aesthetic skincare solutions visibly 48 00:02:06,785 --> 00:02:09,984 Speaker 1: transform skin in an aesthetic glow without the need for 49 00:02:09,984 --> 00:02:13,904 Speaker 1: invasive procedures. Hello, that sounds great. I've only tried two 50 00:02:13,904 --> 00:02:16,145 Speaker 1: products from one of the ranges, which I'll talk about 51 00:02:16,145 --> 00:02:18,665 Speaker 1: in a minute, but I didn't realize they had so 52 00:02:18,665 --> 00:02:21,015 Speaker 1: many collections, if that makes sense. I feel like 53 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:22,795 Speaker 2: I've only heard of the eye cream for. 54 00:02:23,344 --> 00:02:25,344 Speaker 1: See, I haven't tried that one, but of course now 55 00:02:25,344 --> 00:02:26,224 Speaker 1: I know that it's gold. 56 00:02:26,349 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: Is it? So they've got the Hyaluronic dewy radiance range. 57 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:32,659 Speaker 1: I've tried two products from that that I absolutely love. 58 00:02:32,739 --> 00:02:37,409 Speaker 1: It features 10 types of hyaluronic acid and aqua glue 59 00:02:37,659 --> 00:02:41,459 Speaker 1: to leave skin moisturized and refreshed. It's true. It's very dewy, 60 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:44,610 Speaker 1: very hydrating. So the two products I've used and love 61 00:02:44,610 --> 00:02:48,980 Speaker 1: are the AHC Hyaluronic Dewy radiant serum, $59. So really 62 00:02:48,980 --> 00:02:51,260 Speaker 1: good kind of medium price point. And the other one 63 00:02:51,260 --> 00:02:55,189 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with is the AHC Hyaluronic Dewy Radiance Cream. 64 00:02:55,665 --> 00:02:57,614 Speaker 1: Look, I'm old. I need plumping. 65 00:02:57,724 --> 00:02:57,944 Speaker 2: I 66 00:02:57,944 --> 00:02:58,614 Speaker 1: want hydration. 67 00:02:58,864 --> 00:02:59,534 Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. 68 00:02:59,665 --> 00:03:02,304 Speaker 1: $69. So they're the two that I've tried and can 69 00:03:02,304 --> 00:03:04,144 Speaker 1: put my name to and say they're great. They also 70 00:03:04,144 --> 00:03:08,054 Speaker 1: have the youth focus range. It's got fig fruit extract. 71 00:03:08,064 --> 00:03:12,575 Speaker 1: It supports healthy skin, improves skin elasticity, deep hydrating, so awesome. 72 00:03:12,784 --> 00:03:15,465 Speaker 1: And also retinal with the A, A, the one that 73 00:03:15,465 --> 00:03:17,825 Speaker 1: everyone loves. When they call it youth focus range, I 74 00:03:17,825 --> 00:03:19,704 Speaker 1: think that's what they're calling anti-aging. 75 00:03:20,204 --> 00:03:25,155 Speaker 1: The 365 red range. So concentrated red serum featuring Egyptian 76 00:03:25,155 --> 00:03:28,885 Speaker 1: red hibiscus flower, mm, a vitamin B12. So this is 77 00:03:28,885 --> 00:03:32,084 Speaker 1: like a total skincare solution for hydrated skin, lifting skin, 78 00:03:32,204 --> 00:03:34,245 Speaker 1: fine lines and wrinkles. So I guess that's also a 79 00:03:34,245 --> 00:03:36,485 Speaker 1: little bit of everything. Yeah. And then there's the Age 80 00:03:36,485 --> 00:03:39,075 Speaker 1: Defense real eye cream for the face, again, the cult product. 81 00:03:39,245 --> 00:03:40,045 Speaker 1: I haven't tried it. 82 00:03:40,165 --> 00:03:42,605 Speaker 2: Age Defense is the only range I've really tried. I 83 00:03:42,605 --> 00:03:44,995 Speaker 2: had no idea there was other ranges out 84 00:03:44,995 --> 00:03:45,125 Speaker 2: there. 85 00:03:45,245 --> 00:03:47,814 Speaker 1: So it says it fights 7 kinds of wrinkles. I 86 00:03:47,814 --> 00:03:48,765 Speaker 1: didn't know there was more than one. 87 00:03:48,924 --> 00:03:52,435 Speaker 1: In just 7 days, formulated with a blend of peptides, hello, 88 00:03:52,485 --> 00:03:56,235 Speaker 1: I love, and fitted gold to improve skin health by 89 00:03:56,235 --> 00:04:00,444 Speaker 1: increasing the synthesis of skin collagen by 173%. Like, hello, 90 00:04:00,635 --> 00:04:03,015 Speaker 1: I want that. So it's in Priceline now. It's finally 91 00:04:03,015 --> 00:04:06,235 Speaker 1: here in Australia. It sounds great. We've both tried a 92 00:04:06,235 --> 00:04:08,015 Speaker 1: few products, and now I'm gonna go to Priceline 93 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:10,515 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go for that hyaluronic dewy radiance. 94 00:04:10,665 --> 00:04:10,954 Speaker 1: Should we go 95 00:04:10,954 --> 00:04:11,594 Speaker 1: on our lunch break? 96 00:04:11,754 --> 00:04:11,875 Speaker 2: I 97 00:04:11,875 --> 00:04:14,674 Speaker 2: think we should. Let's sneak away. I'll put on some 98 00:04:14,674 --> 00:04:16,004 Speaker 2: eye cream. I like this one. 99 00:04:17,795 --> 00:04:20,424 Speaker 2: OK. So I want to talk about an article that 100 00:04:20,424 --> 00:04:24,775 Speaker 2: I recently came across on Vogue Australia. It's by Mahalia Chang, 101 00:04:24,954 --> 00:04:27,654 Speaker 2: and she's road tested what she describes as a new 102 00:04:27,654 --> 00:04:32,534 Speaker 2: haute couture beauty routine. I'm gonna butcher this. It's every 103 00:04:32,534 --> 00:04:34,675 Speaker 2: time I say this, it's biologic 104 00:04:34,675 --> 00:04:35,175 Speaker 1: research, 105 00:04:36,985 --> 00:04:37,624 Speaker 2: treatment. OK. 106 00:04:37,825 --> 00:04:41,184 Speaker 1: That's one of the most high-end French skin. They're famous 107 00:04:41,184 --> 00:04:43,184 Speaker 1: for that P50, which is a facial in a bottle. 108 00:04:43,825 --> 00:04:46,615 Speaker 2: Yes, that's one of their cult products. So 109 00:04:46,665 --> 00:04:50,955 Speaker 2: So there's this new treatment. It's offered through Melanie Grant salons. 110 00:04:51,015 --> 00:04:53,915 Speaker 2: And as you know, Melanie Grant is not only in Sydney, 111 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:57,395 Speaker 2: but you've got one in Melbourne, right around the world. 112 00:04:57,964 --> 00:05:01,494 Speaker 2: She did pretty good. OK. So apparently, this new treatment 113 00:05:01,494 --> 00:05:04,214 Speaker 2: is all about giving customers the opportunity to have their 114 00:05:04,214 --> 00:05:08,494 Speaker 2: skin analyzed and then have like a personalized skincare routine 115 00:05:08,895 --> 00:05:13,214 Speaker 2: crafted around their most pressing concerns, basically. So it's a real, like, 116 00:05:13,254 --> 00:05:15,415 Speaker 2: in-depth personalized skincare routine. 117 00:05:16,034 --> 00:05:19,795 Speaker 2: But it comes at a price. The full cost of 118 00:05:19,795 --> 00:05:23,665 Speaker 2: the experience is $20,000. 119 00:05:24,594 --> 00:05:24,645 Speaker 1: A 120 00:05:24,645 --> 00:05:26,594 Speaker 2: $20,000 facial 121 00:05:26,594 --> 00:05:28,955 Speaker 1: treatment with products to take home, with 122 00:05:28,955 --> 00:05:31,385 Speaker 2: products to take home. And I feel like you still 123 00:05:31,385 --> 00:05:33,994 Speaker 2: can't be like, but you get products, so it's fine. Like, 124 00:05:34,034 --> 00:05:36,295 Speaker 2: it's still very bloody expensive. 125 00:05:36,415 --> 00:05:36,635 Speaker 1: OK. 126 00:05:36,795 --> 00:05:37,545 Speaker 2: So you'd probably want to 127 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:41,020 Speaker 2: I know what's actually involved. So, the Vogue beauty writer, 128 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:44,731 Speaker 2: luckiest gal on Earth, road tested this. So she went 129 00:05:44,731 --> 00:05:50,231 Speaker 2: to the double bass salon in Sydney, and the biology 130 00:05:50,231 --> 00:05:53,300 Speaker 2: team conducted a series of like tests and like a 131 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:56,220 Speaker 2: questionnaire to find out more about her skin. It was 132 00:05:56,220 --> 00:05:59,220 Speaker 2: everything from, you know, diet to lifestyle, exercise, stress level. 133 00:06:00,247 --> 00:06:03,146 Speaker 2: Not only looks at your current skin condition, but also 134 00:06:03,146 --> 00:06:06,016 Speaker 2: predicts what's going to happen to your skin in the future, 135 00:06:06,326 --> 00:06:09,306 Speaker 2: then uses the formulas that they make to kind of 136 00:06:09,306 --> 00:06:13,127 Speaker 2: combat them and try and avoid these skin concerns from happening. 137 00:06:13,197 --> 00:06:13,306 Speaker 2: It's 138 00:06:13,306 --> 00:06:15,167 Speaker 1: like getting in Back to the Future DeLorean and you 139 00:06:15,167 --> 00:06:17,287 Speaker 1: can go and fix your skin before it happens, but 140 00:06:17,287 --> 00:06:17,817 Speaker 1: it'll cost you. 141 00:06:19,676 --> 00:06:20,847 Speaker 2: Yes, docks there, everything. 142 00:06:22,524 --> 00:06:22,944 Speaker 2: Honey, 143 00:06:24,654 --> 00:06:25,944 Speaker 2: You've got to come back with me. 144 00:06:27,295 --> 00:06:31,494 Speaker 2: Where? Back to the future. So basically, after this like 145 00:06:31,494 --> 00:06:35,494 Speaker 2: really intense assessment, you have to wait like 6 weeks 146 00:06:35,494 --> 00:06:38,205 Speaker 2: or something, and the info is like sent off to Paris, 147 00:06:38,455 --> 00:06:42,564 Speaker 2: where everything's basically analyzed and personalized, all the formulations are made, 148 00:06:42,765 --> 00:06:42,934 Speaker 2: and 149 00:06:42,934 --> 00:06:48,055 Speaker 1: then they make custom skincare custom skincare use this cleanser, no, 150 00:06:48,094 --> 00:06:51,515 Speaker 2: no, so they basically formulate the skincare specifically for your skin. 151 00:06:52,214 --> 00:06:54,444 Speaker 2: After 6 weeks, the program is sent back across to 152 00:06:54,444 --> 00:06:57,444 Speaker 2: Australia and you're called in by Melanie Grant for your 153 00:06:57,444 --> 00:07:00,415 Speaker 2: skin consultation. So you hop in the salon, and then 154 00:07:00,415 --> 00:07:03,494 Speaker 2: there's a box with 8 golden vials, and they're all 155 00:07:03,494 --> 00:07:08,214 Speaker 2: marked with like your initials and these like crazy sciencey codes. 156 00:07:08,575 --> 00:07:10,814 Speaker 2: And then you get like a detailed breakdown on what 157 00:07:10,814 --> 00:07:13,085 Speaker 2: every product does, where you use it in your routine, 158 00:07:13,094 --> 00:07:15,265 Speaker 2: and where your skin is kind of heading. 159 00:07:15,944 --> 00:07:19,485 Speaker 2: You're using these treatments and then you have like follow-ups 160 00:07:19,485 --> 00:07:25,045 Speaker 2: with Melanie Grant and the biologic research team got like 161 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:30,645 Speaker 2: direct access to this doctor in Paris. It's a big process. 162 00:07:30,805 --> 00:07:31,645 Speaker 1: People win the lotto. 163 00:07:32,494 --> 00:07:33,814 Speaker 1: People are a Victoria Beckham. 164 00:07:33,895 --> 00:07:34,795 Speaker 2: Some people are rich, 165 00:07:35,015 --> 00:07:35,395 Speaker 1: yes, 166 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:36,665 Speaker 2: and you can do that. Why not? 167 00:07:37,175 --> 00:07:40,774 Speaker 1: Why not if you've just won Powerball. Biologique Rege is 168 00:07:40,774 --> 00:07:42,515 Speaker 1: very high end, so I guess they got to cater 169 00:07:42,515 --> 00:07:42,774 Speaker 1: for that 170 00:07:42,774 --> 00:07:43,094 Speaker 1: market. 171 00:07:43,214 --> 00:07:45,135 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. But if you're looking for someone to 172 00:07:45,135 --> 00:07:46,135 Speaker 2: road test it, like 173 00:07:46,135 --> 00:07:46,735 Speaker 1: yeah, we're here. 174 00:07:46,814 --> 00:07:47,654 Speaker 2: I mean we're here. 175 00:07:53,194 --> 00:07:55,485 Speaker 1: All right, Erin, I'm terrified. You made me come to 176 00:07:55,485 --> 00:07:57,915 Speaker 1: the office with no mascara on. You said you've seen 177 00:07:57,915 --> 00:08:00,714 Speaker 1: a hack, and we're gonna back comb our lashes. We 178 00:08:00,714 --> 00:08:01,024 Speaker 1: back 179 00:08:01,024 --> 00:08:03,735 Speaker 2: combing. It makes me think of, remember when you used 180 00:08:03,735 --> 00:08:03,994 Speaker 2: to do 181 00:08:03,994 --> 00:08:07,585 Speaker 1: like the, I still do that sometimes for like a top, 182 00:08:08,675 --> 00:08:10,665 Speaker 1: but my hair gets all knotty and then it breaks, 183 00:08:10,754 --> 00:08:11,115 Speaker 1: so my lashes. 184 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,270 Speaker 1: Just gonna break? Tell me what we're 185 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:12,430 Speaker 1: doing. 186 00:08:12,510 --> 00:08:14,219 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what have I signed us up for? 187 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:18,629 Speaker 2: So basically, a TikToker named Scortez Beauty was one of 188 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:21,909 Speaker 2: the first to go viral after trying this trend, and 189 00:08:21,909 --> 00:08:25,309 Speaker 2: they did note that it takes some practice, but we're 190 00:08:25,309 --> 00:08:29,349 Speaker 2: just going in raw. Lift your eyelid with one hand. 191 00:08:29,874 --> 00:08:32,075 Speaker 2: Hold the mascara wand in the other, and then focus 192 00:08:32,075 --> 00:08:34,624 Speaker 2: on like the top of the lashes and roll the 193 00:08:34,624 --> 00:08:38,515 Speaker 2: brush from roots to tip back and forth. Yeah, it's 194 00:08:38,515 --> 00:08:39,645 Speaker 2: like back combing. 195 00:08:39,795 --> 00:08:42,245 Speaker 1: OK, we're gonna do it now. Are we gonna do it? 196 00:08:42,594 --> 00:08:44,474 Speaker 1: And I'm not allowed to use my curler, am I? 197 00:08:44,634 --> 00:08:46,474 Speaker 2: Well, I want to do one with the back combing 198 00:08:46,474 --> 00:08:47,555 Speaker 2: and one without. OK, 199 00:08:47,634 --> 00:08:49,704 Speaker 1: let's do this. I've got, 200 00:08:49,714 --> 00:08:50,214 Speaker 2: what have you got? 201 00:08:50,334 --> 00:08:54,555 Speaker 1: I've got Hourglass unlocked. I love that mascara tubular. So 202 00:08:54,555 --> 00:08:55,274 Speaker 1: if this all goes wrong, I'll just 203 00:08:55,402 --> 00:08:56,462 Speaker 1: Go to the bathroom and take off 204 00:08:56,462 --> 00:08:59,583 Speaker 2: stupid they didn't bring my tubular one. I've got the Benefit, 205 00:08:59,712 --> 00:09:00,393 Speaker 2: they're real 206 00:09:00,393 --> 00:09:03,542 Speaker 1: magnet. Oh, that's a good one. OK, I'm watching you first. 207 00:09:03,712 --> 00:09:06,303 Speaker 2: OK. You start like at the bottom, 208 00:09:06,462 --> 00:09:07,193 Speaker 2: I'm shaking. 209 00:09:07,393 --> 00:09:11,433 Speaker 1: I can't fight the urge to then go up. Definitely 210 00:09:11,433 --> 00:09:14,583 Speaker 1: deposits a lot of pigment at the root, which is good. 211 00:09:14,792 --> 00:09:15,303 Speaker 1: You're good at 212 00:09:15,303 --> 00:09:15,553 Speaker 1: it. 213 00:09:15,643 --> 00:09:18,313 Speaker 2: So you're supposed to do this and then just go 214 00:09:18,313 --> 00:09:20,782 Speaker 2: over normally. We poked ourselves in the eye. 215 00:09:21,201 --> 00:09:22,261 Speaker 2: We're crying a bit. 216 00:09:22,870 --> 00:09:24,721 Speaker 1: I get it. I quite like it to start with. 217 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:27,191 Speaker 1: So it really kind of gets mascara right down to 218 00:09:27,191 --> 00:09:29,701 Speaker 1: the root of the lash, and then you can comb 219 00:09:29,701 --> 00:09:32,500 Speaker 1: back normally. Like I guess like how you would back 220 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:34,980 Speaker 1: comb your hair. You don't just leave a big back 221 00:09:34,980 --> 00:09:38,471 Speaker 1: blob of hair. You then go over normally. OK, here 222 00:09:38,471 --> 00:09:41,781 Speaker 1: I go again. I wanna see the difference. And hectic. Oh, 223 00:09:41,790 --> 00:09:43,110 Speaker 1: your normal looks. Oh, 224 00:09:43,471 --> 00:09:43,990 Speaker 2: looks better. 225 00:09:44,110 --> 00:09:46,471 Speaker 1: The back combed ones looks a little bit more. Does 226 00:09:46,471 --> 00:09:46,951 Speaker 1: it look 227 00:09:46,998 --> 00:09:50,948 Speaker 1: Messy, but better at the root. So maybe you start 228 00:09:50,948 --> 00:09:53,469 Speaker 1: by doing that, get the pigment down right near your 229 00:09:53,469 --> 00:09:58,029 Speaker 1: lash line, almost like a liner, and then before it dries, quick, quick, quick, 230 00:09:58,349 --> 00:10:01,628 Speaker 1: then go normal. Well, look, that's not a total terrible TikTok. 231 00:10:01,829 --> 00:10:02,789 Speaker 1: Total terrible TikTok. 232 00:10:04,748 --> 00:10:05,118 Speaker 2: TikTok. 233 00:10:05,149 --> 00:10:07,758 Speaker 1: I know how I feel about your total TikTok suggestion. 234 00:10:08,349 --> 00:10:10,479 Speaker 1: On that note, I think I've got some mascara in mine. 235 00:10:10,669 --> 00:10:12,428 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to today's episode. 236 00:10:12,797 --> 00:10:15,717 Speaker 1: But we love your feedback, so please email us. 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