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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges

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Speaker 1: is recorded on Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for your Face.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ceremony Fada, and today we are diving into all

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Speaker 2: things body care and hair with Kelly McCarran. We're talking products, techniques,

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Speaker 2: and all the secrets to how Kelly gets her signature

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Speaker 2: below and keeps her locks lush.

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Speaker 1: As Slushious locks is a little bit ambitious, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll take it. I had to find the liner in

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Speaker 1: my bag. I have brought with me three of my

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Speaker 1: favorite body care products and three of my favorite hair products.

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Speaker 1: And some of them are kind of like everyone knows,

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Speaker 1: like duh, but some of them are like what really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've brought the random products.

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Speaker 1: I did that in particular, I reckon, You're just gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, what is that product?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I need to see.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to kick things off with the random

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Speaker 1: weird products.

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Speaker 2: Oh have you heard of this? I wanted to try

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Speaker 2: this so hard. I've seen the real where the shield

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Speaker 2: the blonde hair Yeah, darkades.

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Speaker 1: So it is the Boulderfly Enhance hairline powder. You might

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Speaker 1: have seen an ad for it. Because we both saw

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Speaker 1: the ad for it. I got sucked in and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I must try that lessen. The ad does

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Speaker 1: make it look a little bit more spectacular than what

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Speaker 1: it is, but I'm going to show you in real

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Speaker 1: time how it works. Was so cool. So you get

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Speaker 1: it from Amazon. It's really hard to get in light blonde.

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Speaker 1: You can easily get like the browner shades. The browns

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Speaker 1: are always available, but the light blonde shades are really hard.

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Speaker 1: But you can also get red. Every single hair shade

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Speaker 1: is available. And the idea is that it's just like

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Speaker 1: going to cover either your grays or your roots. So

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Speaker 1: it's a root touch up product.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: But it comes in a little container and on the

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Speaker 1: bottom it's got like this little powder path and on

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Speaker 1: the top is the product and then a little mirror.

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Speaker 1: But the mirror is tiny. Now, if you are listening

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Speaker 1: to this, I have got about an inch of regrowth

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Speaker 1: and it's quite dark.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it lightens.

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Speaker 1: It, it lightens it.

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Speaker 2: It is covered.

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Speaker 1: It is not like the ad like I said, it's

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Speaker 1: not like the ad ad all, but it lightens it,

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Speaker 1: so it just makes it less aggressive. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: I love it so much because and you can obviously

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Speaker 1: and like add more product on. But I just really

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Speaker 1: hate some people like the regrowth.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. I find it very harsh and

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Speaker 1: quite aggressive. So I just really love that it lightens

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Speaker 1: as dark in the ads. It makes it look like

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Speaker 1: it covers the regrowth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's like a streak. Like if you picture

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Speaker 1: She's got those streaks.

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Speaker 2: So that's the way it looked like in the ad,

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Speaker 2: like she did a line. But I can totally see.

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Speaker 2: So if you're going to style your hair or go out,

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Speaker 2: it softens it up.

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Speaker 1: It softens it so someone isn't like, dear Lord, that

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Speaker 2: It's more like it blends.

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Speaker 1: It blends it are, so it just softens everything.

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Speaker 2: It actually really does because you've got the warmth in between,

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Speaker 2: You've got like kind of the three shade.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've got yours astake. Let's not draw attention to that.

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Speaker 1: That's an orange in between. We don't talk about that.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was smart to be fair. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 2: Yes. Have you seen those videos where people try they like,

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Speaker 1: That's why you trust a hair because they are looking

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Speaker 1: So don't Yeah, yeah, not recommended. So my next product,

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Speaker 1: it needs to be talked about it. It is the

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Speaker 1: diceon air ap.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we are both Dyson and Dip.

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Speaker 1: You're their air straight and I'm their air wrap.

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Speaker 2: How do you not bring your air rap?

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't be bothered. It's very bulky, eight hundred

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Speaker 2: How would you use the diceon air rap? Because my

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Speaker 2: like a blow dry, like the brush blow dry kind

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Speaker 2: and I just couldn't picture using it on my whole

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Speaker 1: It doesn't take as long as you think. I thought

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Speaker 1: I love using mine. I use mine nine hour ten times.

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Speaker 1: I wash my hair, I use the air wrap afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, especially with it being such an investment, you kind

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Speaker 2: of like want to make sure it's right for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh it is so good. Well then I ended up.

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Speaker 1: Actually they did send to me one after that, so

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Speaker 1: because I've bleached it, it's like fluff. So it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like Hagrid. Did you have watch Harry Potter? You

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Speaker 1: You know that just fluffy, big yeah hair.

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Speaker 2: But if you were to brush my hair now, yes,

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Speaker 1: Exactly. It's not People say, oh, you've got curls, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's too dry.

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Speaker 2: But wait, it's so how many attachments does it come?

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Speaker 2: What does that come with? So you it comes with

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Speaker 1: It comes with the Coander blow dry head, and then

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Speaker 1: there's two different brush heads for like ones for more

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Speaker 2: See, I didn't realize it had so many attachments. You

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Speaker 1: If you use them, you're to use your My sister

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Speaker 1: Very old tangle Teaser.

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Speaker 1: This brush is disgusting. I should probably throw it out

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Speaker 1: and invest in new one. They're thirty dollars full price.

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Speaker 1: This is just the wet brush, and I use it

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Speaker 2: Can I just say I actually love tangle Teaser. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're so good. I have their wet brush, not this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a cylinder type of one where the

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Speaker 2: and till this day it doesn't get mold. I have

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Speaker 2: had it for longer than seven years, right, like you said,

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Speaker 2: the bristles haven't.

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Speaker 1: Gone, and they don't like. It doesn't hurt, It doesn't

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Speaker 2: I brush my kid's hair in the bathroom there, and

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Speaker 2: my eldest son has the most sensitive scalp. I am

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Speaker 2: it in the shower when you've got the condition that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, otherwise it would be way too short.

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Speaker 2: And then you could rinse it in the shower and

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Speaker 2: just leave it to dry. I have to say, tangle

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Speaker 2: teaser has nailed it. They used to be on Shark Tank, right, did.

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Speaker 3: They tangled knotted hair stove hairdressers? Insane? Tangled teasers uniquely

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Speaker 3: design teeth will glide through the hair, removing knots and tangles.

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Speaker 3: That is a cause and associated with conventional tools on

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Speaker 2: When they were like rejected. I remember if one of

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Speaker 2: them said yes to them, but the other guy was

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Speaker 2: like no, he's just like a hair brush. He didn't

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Speaker 2: understand and the need for a brush that entangled without hurting.

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Speaker 1: It and that didn't cost three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: And that didn't cost three Yeah, exactly, and now they've

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Speaker 2: one tangle teaser before. And yeah they get like heaps

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Next up is a body moisturizer userin Intensive Repair Lotion.

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Speaker 2: Game changer this is, Yes, it is so noticeable. How

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Speaker 1: What you makeup hacks.

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Speaker 2: Let's do hair.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a tip for hair?

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Speaker 2: I feel like as someone who's blonde, there's bound to

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Speaker 1: To My biggest tip would be to buy a cheap

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Speaker 2: Loofer, oh we all do, but I never let mine

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Speaker 1: To be like, babe, what is the Just put it

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I love going in your bag.

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Speaker 1: In your bag.

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Speaker 2: It's so nice because we talk about our own stuff

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Speaker 2: to so many people, but not each other until we

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Speaker 1: And so fun. Well, thank you so much for everyone

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Speaker 1: for listening. Len I will be back in your ears

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with Spendy saving Yes

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Speaker 2: And thank you so much for showing us what's in

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Speaker 2: your back, Kelly, time, anytime,