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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast. It
Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. It's that
Speaker 1: time of year again, Copenhagen Fashion Week. I know you
Speaker 1: all think we're obsessed here at Mamma Mia, and that's
Speaker 1: because we are. The street star looks as well as
Speaker 1: the runway looks at Copenhagen are refreshing and different and
Speaker 1: really inspiring and a great way to go through your
Speaker 1: own wardrobe and try something different. So joining me again
Speaker 1: today is Lycinda Pakat. She was on the show a
Speaker 1: little while ago and you guys loved her insider tips
Speaker 1: and insights. So she's going to help me dissect what
Speaker 1: we saw last week at Copenhagen Fashion Week, both on
Speaker 1: the runway but mostly what the people wearing on this
Speaker 1: streets and how we can translate it to our own wardrobes.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Listen to welcome back. You were last
Speaker 1: on and we talked about what makes a brand cool
Speaker 1: and that was so phenomenal. So I'm excited to talk
Speaker 1: to you about Copenhagen. Copenhagen. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: it wrong fashion.
Speaker 2: We're having a debate here, I do. I'm going to
Speaker 2: stick to covid Hagen.
Speaker 1: I Copenhagen. That's the Australian twang of it.
Speaker 3: I think I's flavor on the Aussie twang.
Speaker 2: Let's do that.
Speaker 1: But before we get into it, I ask returning guests
Speaker 1: two questions. Do you have a style news and if so,
Speaker 1: who and why.
Speaker 2: My style news would probably be my day to day
Speaker 2: style resonates most with or I try and make it
Speaker 2: resonate with Princess Diana. I'm obsessed with her style because
Speaker 2: I do lean more towards like.
Speaker 3: That sporty aesthetic.
Speaker 2: I naturally gravitate to the looks that we've seen her
Speaker 2: wear with the bike shorts and the big jersey, and
Speaker 2: that just suits my lifestyle with dropping the kids at
Speaker 2: school and going to the gym. So I do try
Speaker 2: and emulate Princess die But right now, I'd say looking
Speaker 2: at sort of trends and what's happening looking into spring
Speaker 2: and summer and the trends that are coming up. I
Speaker 2: do love Siena Miller, and that, like boho vibe is
Speaker 2: sort of what I'm getting into. Now, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: The Princess Die thing. As soon as you said it,
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, you nail that.
Speaker 3: Well. Every time I look at you.
Speaker 1: On Instagram and you were in cool, like sporty lux vibes,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just could not do that, but I
Speaker 1: love that you pull that off. Now, second question is,
Speaker 1: tell me about a memorable purchase. It might be a
Speaker 1: big impulse purchase that you could regret or that you
Speaker 1: are glad you made, or something that you saved up for,
Speaker 1: but a really memorable purchase or item that you but
Speaker 1: that comes to mind.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Really buy luxury designer hambags anymore. I've sort of stopped
Speaker 2: alling that. And if I'm going to invest in a piece,
Speaker 2: it'll be a piece of jewelry. And I'm not talking
Speaker 2: You're Cartier bracelet or your Tiffany's. I'd go and get
Speaker 2: a bespoke piece made. Recently, I got one made with
Speaker 2: my daughter's birthstone, so that on a necklace in some gold,
Speaker 2: so something like that that has it's personal, it means something,
Speaker 2: it's custom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna be ripped off all over Timo
Speaker 1: in five minutes.
Speaker 2: And you're not paying a huge mark up for these
Speaker 2: luxury brands.
Speaker 1: It's so true. And I think you know, custom jewelry
Speaker 1: can be really expensive, but there's some affordable ways to
Speaker 1: do it. When I say affordable, it's still a forever piece,
Speaker 1: but it's you're right, you're not paying twelve grand for
Speaker 1: a bangle that everyone's got or everyone's got the cost.
Speaker 2: So true, like you dictate the price, whatever your budget is,
Speaker 2: you give to them and then they can go away
Speaker 2: and make something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, love it all right. We're here to talk about Copenhagen.
Speaker 1: Their fashion week just happened last week, and I want
Speaker 1: you to tell us first, why is Copenhagen Fashion Week
Speaker 1: suddenly relatively suddenly on the radar when it used to
Speaker 1: kind of be your New York's, your London, Milan, Paris.
Speaker 2: That's rightly, like, it's strange that such a like little
Speaker 2: old Copenhagen has suddenly been up there with the big four.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you've got the Big four, but.
Speaker 2: There's actually like eighteen other fashion weeks going around the
Speaker 2: world that people don't really know about. We've obviously got
Speaker 2: Australian Fashion Week, There's New Zealand Fashion Week in a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, there's Oslo. There's all these ones happening.
Speaker 1: And suddenly I'm a bit about Dubai every now and then.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's because I was researching a holiday the out
Speaker 1: of the rhythm.
Speaker 2: But it's funny that Copenhagen has really shot up and
Speaker 2: is one to watch and it's got eyeballs on it
Speaker 2: and I love it. I'm obsessed with Copenhagen every year.
Speaker 2: I get excited for Spring summer in particular, and I
Speaker 2: think it's two things that comes down to that make it.
Speaker 3: So special and interesting.
Speaker 2: Yes, one is they've got this huge sustainability element. So
Speaker 2: the CEO, Cecilia ros Mark, she's been in the role
Speaker 2: for maybe six years.
Speaker 1: But CEO of the fashion week, CEO of Copenhagen Fashion.
Speaker 1: I don't think people really realize that these things are
Speaker 1: business in and of themselves all year round.
Speaker 3: Right Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Copenhagen started in two thousand and six, which.
Speaker 3: Is relatively new.
Speaker 1: That is quite new, so a.
Speaker 2: Lot of the other big ones Milan, Paris, whatnot. They
Speaker 2: sort of started in the eighties nineties, so it's a
Speaker 2: fresh Copenhagen Fashion Week away. Cecilia has been working on
Speaker 2: sustainability and how brands are required to bring x amount
Speaker 2: of well they need to be sustainable in order to
Speaker 2: show at fashion week. And this isn't just like oh,
Speaker 2: let's hope you can do it and tick a box.
Speaker 2: You have to hit a minimum of eighteen requirements in
Speaker 2: order to show, no.
Speaker 1: Way, So it's amazing.
Speaker 2: So it's things like it's the whole production line, so
Speaker 2: whether it be the materials they're using, sixty percent need
Speaker 2: to be of sustainable or recycled working conditions. And then
Speaker 2: also the show within itself, so no paper invitations, how
Speaker 2: are you getting your garments to and from the show?
Speaker 2: There can't be any plastic, there's zero waste at shows.
Speaker 2: So knowing this and having this knowledge is quite interesting
Speaker 2: now watching the shows.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a really high barve, but Cecilia says
Speaker 2: it's not meant to be high, that no one reaches it,
Speaker 2: that change with sustainability comes from the top. It's her
Speaker 2: responsibility to bring these brands up and then they can
Speaker 2: move forward together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not like you say, just about slapping
Speaker 1: a label on it, you know. I think there was
Speaker 1: a fast fashion brand recently that was somehow be Corp
Speaker 1: certified fits as poly Yeah, and you know, not everyone
Speaker 1: can afford really high end things, but also there can
Speaker 1: be affordability that's not at the cost of the environment
Speaker 1: so much. And maybe we don't need super fast fashion
Speaker 1: where things are six dollars and then therefore people are
Speaker 1: buying eight thousand of them. So I think she's right
Speaker 1: leading by example should hopefully set a standard because we
Speaker 1: see these fashion weeks trends trickle down to the high street.
Speaker 1: If these standards for the environment and sustainability start up here,
Speaker 1: hopefully that will also trickle down throughout the whole fashion industry.
Speaker 3: It's so true.
Speaker 2: So she's got a lot of eyeballs on her. And
Speaker 2: brands also get brownie foids or bonus points for doing
Speaker 2: things like what's their cast diversity and sizing diversity adaptive clothing,
Speaker 2: So what are they doing for disabilities materials use? I
Speaker 2: know one brand's using seaweed and turning it into a
Speaker 2: fire bus. So hopefully other fashion weeks can look.
Speaker 1: At this skin It just always are miles ahead in everything,
Speaker 1: but that whole area just blows my mind and I
Speaker 1: want to move there, I know.
Speaker 2: So that's one element of it. But then also what
Speaker 2: makes Copenhagen Fashion weeks so exciting and electric to watch
Speaker 2: is obviously the street style.
Speaker 1: That's it for me. And it's funny because when I said,
Speaker 1: you know, let's get you on to talk about Copenhagen
Speaker 1: Fashion Week, I really meant street style. I mean, I
Speaker 1: do like watching the runways and the designers and the shows,
Speaker 1: but it's what the people are wearing outside that is
Speaker 1: like a candy store for the eyes, and it feels
Speaker 1: so different to all the other ones. Why do you
Speaker 1: think we'd love looking at what people going to the
Speaker 1: shows are wearing.
Speaker 2: That's so it's such an interesting point because who's going
Speaker 2: to Copenhagen. It's actually fifty percent influencers compared to media
Speaker 2: industry buyers, whereas usually it's around like seventy five percent
Speaker 2: the industry, right, So I think with so many more
Speaker 2: influencers going who are there with the intention of getting photographed,
Speaker 2: it's really interesting looks that are getting created that we're
Speaker 2: now interested in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess they're going and this is no
Speaker 1: shaded influence. You and I both do content creation, but
Speaker 1: they're going as that job, whereas I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I've attended a bunch of overseas fashion weeks in Sydney
Speaker 1: for many years, but I'm going less about what I'm
Speaker 1: wearing and more functional to then run back and write
Speaker 1: an article, you know, whether it's in the media pit
Speaker 1: or two. I'm there to produce content for back when
Speaker 1: I was at Cosmo. Now I'm Muma Mea. But they're
Speaker 1: there as them, and they are their content and they
Speaker 1: are their channels. So I think the expression there is
Speaker 1: fair work, whereas when I've attended as media, you know,
Speaker 1: it will come out in words on a website. So yeah,
Speaker 1: what they wear is really important and therefore very different,
Speaker 1: very different. I feel like it's the most varied street
Speaker 1: style that I see.
Speaker 2: I think like the French Parisians have that how do
Speaker 2: you say that, Jena Sikua. Yeah, the Danish girls have
Speaker 2: that it factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it still feels effortless, but it's more fun, you know, joyful.
Speaker 2: I think Scandinavian or Danish Copenhagen street style whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call it. I think a really good way
Speaker 2: to sort of wrap your head around it is looking
Speaker 2: at the Copenhagen Seas, which I was trying to tell
Speaker 2: you earlier, but the Copenhagen Seas, so it starts with
Speaker 2: that Scandinavian sleek cool level. So it's clean, crisp chek,
Speaker 2: it's mutual tones, its base layers, just keeping it very.
Speaker 1: Like the silhouettes are quite simple or structured, like not fussy, right,
Speaker 1: and not a lot of different clashing things. You look
Speaker 1: at it and you absorb it all in one go, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And that's sort of what millennials know. I think that's
Speaker 2: scandy cool. And that's even in interiors. Remember that whole
Speaker 2: white walls, gray, everything's scandy cool.
Speaker 1: You're so right because it was all a bit minimal
Speaker 1: and very chic and doesn't have to be expensive, but
Speaker 1: it was clean, and that's what I would think of
Speaker 1: as scandy style, both in fashion and in like you say,
Speaker 1: home weares. But that's definitely still around.
Speaker 2: It's still around, and we definitely see that at fashion Week.
Speaker 2: But there is this other side where it's almost like
Speaker 2: bulking and adding in different items that create this max simalism.
Speaker 2: Or even quiet maximalism, which is almost like a gateway
Speaker 2: into or experimenting with the maximalism trend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maximalism, I mean, I love that term, but
Speaker 1: sometimes for me it looks look eclectic is definitely another
Speaker 1: word that comes to mind. But sometimes it's just like
Speaker 1: a big old mish mash of lots of things put
Speaker 1: on somebody that I always think looks very cool. Would
Speaker 1: I wear it? No? Would I even know where to
Speaker 1: start to layer all those kind of unusual pairings. It's
Speaker 1: so different from the scandy we first described, which was
Speaker 1: kind of clean silhouettes, you know, really well made, structured
Speaker 1: or simple. Why do you think it's gone so the
Speaker 1: other way? But both still coexist.
Speaker 2: I think it's a more of a cultural shift in
Speaker 2: people wanting to explore their unique individual style, so adding elements.
Speaker 2: Maximalism's always been a style trend within itself, and like
Speaker 2: you said, it is this mixed mass, chaotic harmony.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, that's right, because they somehow get it right
Speaker 1: most of the time, and.
Speaker 3: It kind of works.
Speaker 2: There's something about Copenhagen where I find it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: as pretentious. And this is me. I've only been to
Speaker 2: Australian Fashion Week and this is me just on the sidelines.
Speaker 2: In Australia, it doesn't feel as pretentious. I watch every
Speaker 2: single fashion week and I almost study it like it's
Speaker 2: a university degree. I feel it's not as pretentious, and
Speaker 2: I think that's because people there are taking risks with
Speaker 2: their fashion, and if you're in a room with other
Speaker 2: people taking risks, you're not going to sort of judge.
Speaker 1: Them, as you feel more confident to wear something that's not,
Speaker 1: you know, completely on trend or head to toe whatever.
Speaker 2: I think they're just leaning into this is who we are.
Speaker 2: We've sort of got a name for this maximalism style.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, and let's do it well.
Speaker 1: So now if people do it and are different, that
Speaker 1: it's not like whoa, what's that person wearing? Whereas I
Speaker 1: think sometimes in Australia, I mean, I think the last
Speaker 1: fashion week was that was in May. I did see
Speaker 1: a lot more eclectic looks outside for Sydney street style
Speaker 1: then I guess I have in previous years. But still
Speaker 1: there's a whole factor like I think you're looking and
Speaker 1: it's a bit of eye candy, but it's also a
Speaker 1: lot to take in because we don't see that much
Speaker 1: variety or that much individuality here, whereas there it feels
Speaker 1: like they're at ease with it because individuality is the signature,
Speaker 1: or is the aim. What's the other seas? Did we
Speaker 1: miss a sea?
Speaker 2: So it was the three seeds that make it that
Speaker 2: scandy cool, but then it goes into like cool girl
Speaker 2: color kitch even though that's okay, but clashes and clever.
Speaker 2: So it's just always remembering the opposites and sort of
Speaker 2: the different ends of the spectrum with Copenhagen style and
Speaker 2: that they can blend.
Speaker 3: There is a spectrum.
Speaker 2: It's either super clean ultra maximalism, and then there's that
Speaker 2: like in between that we see on the streets.
Speaker 1: I'm going to aim for the in between. I definitely
Speaker 1: can't be the maximalist, and I guess I am generally
Speaker 1: the clean, but that's probably because I'm just a bit
Speaker 1: boring and basic and in a rush.
Speaker 2: Difficult, like if you're so used to it, I think
Speaker 2: a lot of us are us as millennials used to
Speaker 2: like capsule wardrobe, ten pieces.
Speaker 1: Q white shirt exactly, and now I'm like, wait, I
Speaker 1: do have a sparkly dress, but well I wear it
Speaker 1: over dress that's outrageous. Yeah, we are going to dissect
Speaker 1: some photos in a minute that we've picked some looks
Speaker 1: from Street Star that will dissect. But do you want
Speaker 1: to just to give us an overall vibe of this
Speaker 1: street star that we've seen last week, or some takeaway
Speaker 1: trends that you just kept in your mind that have
Speaker 1: a name or that you can describe.
Speaker 3: Some key from the street style.
Speaker 2: There's like we've been discussing, but layering different materials and
Speaker 2: the fabrications and different styles. So it's like the masculine
Speaker 2: oversized blazer with the lace skirt underneath, layering on top
Speaker 2: of layering. When you think you've done, do two more.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of layering. Accessories have been a
Speaker 2: huge standout on the runways but also with the street style,
Speaker 2: and it sort of moves into these really eclectic So
Speaker 2: if like you were saying, if you sort of want
Speaker 2: to maybe try maximalism, but it's a bit scary. You
Speaker 2: can start with a bit more of a clean palette
Speaker 2: with your wardrobe, but have an outrageous accessory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe just one to start with the people
Speaker 1: like maybe me because I having a look at some
Speaker 1: of the streets so it is three huge necklaces, earrings,
Speaker 1: a hat, a dog bag, bag charms. It's a lot,
Speaker 1: but for somehow it works for them. I don't even
Speaker 1: own all those things, but I think just having one
Speaker 1: statement accessory that's not your black bag, or putting two
Speaker 1: together you wouldn't normally do, maybe start that way, and.
Speaker 2: It is probably worth noting that it is slightly performative,
Speaker 2: like we see that at Australian Fashion Week and here
Speaker 2: it's the outrageous wardrobes that get photographed, yes, and that
Speaker 2: get spoken about. Yeah, so yeah, I guess it's I
Speaker 2: wonder the intention isn't there to wear that on the
Speaker 2: streets day to day. Probably not, but yeah, we can
Speaker 2: get our own inspiration from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that Koko Chanel quote, like when you
Speaker 1: look in the mirror and then take one thing off.
Speaker 1: So I think it was her, but I think they're like,
Speaker 1: look in the mirror and then add three more things
Speaker 1: and then go, which I just think is fabulous. But
Speaker 1: it's also about I think, giving yourself permission as a
Speaker 1: regular person to wear what you want to wear and
Speaker 1: not worrying if things like match or go you know,
Speaker 1: or you know if it's technically are pulled together outfit
Speaker 1: because somehow it just works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: So yeah, i'd say the layering, accessories, different fabrics, so
Speaker 2: lots of Poko dots and I'm talking lots, even on
Speaker 2: the runway. There is so much like you think a
Speaker 2: trend's gone.
Speaker 1: I've just started, like because obviously spring summer's dropping here
Speaker 1: and actually i want you to join me for a
Speaker 1: Spring Summer trend episode in a few weeks please, because
Speaker 1: I've started to see polka dots everywhere here, so it's
Speaker 1: obviously started overseas and still going. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things like we'd always say, if
Speaker 2: it sticks and sells, it stays. Yeah, so if they're selling, they're.
Speaker 3: Going to keep it making it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I literally just did a wardrobe clean out and I'm
Speaker 1: so glad because I've got a really cute Poka dot dress.
Speaker 1: But I was like, eh, so it's in the maybe pile.
Speaker 1: It hasn't gone yet, And now after seeing all these pics,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hang on, I'm going to get her out
Speaker 1: and wear her with jeans and a dog bag or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Speaking of dog bag, there was a new talent show
Speaker 2: on the second day. Her name was Anne Sophie Madson,
Speaker 2: so new talent. Everyone was watching to see what she'd
Speaker 2: come out with and produce, and a lot of her
Speaker 2: looks were really beautiful and simple, classic silhouettes. But she
Speaker 2: came up with these crazy metallic rat bags and I
Speaker 2: quite like the play on words there, rat bag yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: but these huge rats, like they looked like toy rats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everyone was walking down the runway with them,
Speaker 3: and it's clever, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I think it was one of those things like to
Speaker 2: get eyeballs being new talent, but also it signifies where
Speaker 2: we're going with sort of sculptural accessories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and playfulness and I think and not taking everything
Speaker 1: so seriously. I mean, I think the everyday person is
Speaker 1: not going to invest in a handbag that's the shape
Speaker 1: of an animal. But I think it just is nice
Speaker 1: to see something that's a little bit not too serious,
Speaker 1: so true, you know, it's fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I just started follow against Democrat and they
Speaker 1: have this really cool it's like metal but quite large
Speaker 1: fish clutch and it looks like a fish and you
Speaker 1: open it up and I was like, I love that
Speaker 1: and it's so weird and I would never purchase it
Speaker 1: because of cost perware, but we're getting some personality back totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yes, so polka dots, tartan, lots of checks, checks,
Speaker 2: lots of checks, and head pieces so again this sounds
Speaker 2: head scarves, but hats as well.
Speaker 1: And like like I've seen these like beanie hand crochet.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of when I say, grandma vibes,
Speaker 1: but it feels like that kind of old school handmade knitted.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So kettle Attilia. It was all like dresses made
Speaker 2: out of essentially doilies. It was these beautiful summer dresses
Speaker 2: that looked yeah, made out of doilies, but it was gorgeous.
Speaker 3: It really elegant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and almost combined like vintage and sex of fhel Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: And like you say, that's a clash of like that
Speaker 1: masculine and feminine all pretty. I love it. So, Lucinda,
Speaker 1: we're gonna flick through some pictures.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put a carousel up on Instagram so you
Speaker 1: can have a play at home and look at the
Speaker 1: imagees we're talking about. We've picked out some street style
Speaker 1: looks and stay sect them. What the trends are what
Speaker 1: we think of them. Would we wear the So Tartan
Speaker 1: was huge, and lots of Tartan, lots.
Speaker 2: Of Tartan in different styles as well. So the picture
Speaker 2: we're looking out, she's wearing a skirt, like a mini skirt,
Speaker 2: which has this massive bow dropping down right to the ankle.
Speaker 2: I should do a side note. Bows were everywhere as well, Yes, Carol, addition,
Speaker 2: she showed on the first date. It's actually her husband
Speaker 2: and wife duo. Bows on the bags. I loved they
Speaker 2: were gorgeous. So we're seeing here a Tartan miniskirt with
Speaker 2: this huge bow on the front.
Speaker 1: Which kind of does speak to what you were saying
Speaker 1: before about like the masculine and feminine like Tartan is
Speaker 1: quite you know, it's not a particular I guess it
Speaker 1: depends on the item, but the bow is quite feminine,
Speaker 1: but Tartan can be not particularly masculine. But it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a juxtaposition for sure. Yeah, And that top
Speaker 1: is like kind of one of those sheer mesh she's
Speaker 1: wearing like a sheer mesh long sleeve top that we've
Speaker 1: seen everywhere this autumn winter here, Yeah, with you know,
Speaker 1: a little barlette underneath. So that's it's really easy that
Speaker 1: lots of people might have that at home and then
Speaker 1: can mix and match it with something that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have worn it with this past season.
Speaker 2: That's actually such a good point ly, like I love
Speaker 2: this street style for Copenhagen because you can do it
Speaker 2: with whatever you've got in your wardrobe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go and just have a play and go. I
Speaker 1: would never wear those things together and put it on
Speaker 1: and see what.
Speaker 2: Happens, and even saying I haven't worn that in twelve months,
Speaker 2: so I'm going to pull this and do it with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think also because I fall into the trap
Speaker 1: off I wear that top with those pants and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe those three bottoms, but I rarely have the time
Speaker 1: to get creative in my mind to go, actually I
Speaker 1: should try that with that that I haven't really thought of.
Speaker 1: But it feels like these people are innate at just
Speaker 1: pairing things that are unexpected.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She's also wearing fluffy fluffy it looks like ugroots from here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like crazy shoes, which like goes to show like
Speaker 2: just different accessories, like having fun with accessories and letting
Speaker 2: them do the loud talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so totally. Whereas if she'd warn like it if
Speaker 1: that's I can't tell if that's black or navy check.
Speaker 1: But if she'd want a pump, that would have been
Speaker 1: a lot more stuff, slish and cheek, but a lot
Speaker 1: less expressive than Copenhagen.
Speaker 2: If that makes it as well. With Copenhagen, everyone's in
Speaker 2: flats and.
Speaker 1: Sneakers, yes, preach, says me, and heels not like and
Speaker 1: maybe the odd kitten hill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it was Leandre Medeene who created manrifella.
Speaker 2: She said the Danish girls essentially made sneakers with style
Speaker 2: and fashion cool. And when you think about back in
Speaker 2: the day, we'd wear our assis to work on the train.
Speaker 3: Get changed and put your heels on it.
Speaker 1: Because they ride bikes everywhere you go ride bikes in
Speaker 1: a stiletto.
Speaker 2: It's your cut and we're dispounting that thing every day.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's seventy five percent of Copenhagen's citizens commute
Speaker 2: via bike. You imagine if we do that.
Speaker 1: I mean I would not be here a squash smug
Speaker 1: on the road. But I love so practical and it's
Speaker 1: still cool because for me, I'm like, I'm doing something
Speaker 1: practical today. I can't wear fun clothes. I have these
Speaker 1: versions of myself, but they are all mushed into one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's look at the next one. Okay, this to me
Speaker 1: speaks Copenhagen. This woman is wearing a long sleeve it
Speaker 1: looks like a silk satin long sleeve top, jeans or
Speaker 1: are they added as pants? That's not a stripe?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Some don't We both don't have that glasses.
Speaker 1: No, I know, but it looks like jeans, slip flops,
Speaker 1: a headscarf and then a big bag. So did I
Speaker 1: say the sequence dress over the top? This is what
Speaker 1: I think of when I think of a version of this.
Speaker 1: But I also just not that I don't love her
Speaker 1: look that's something I would never try. But I have
Speaker 1: all of those elements separately in my wardrobe. What do
Speaker 1: you think of that.
Speaker 2: I look at this and love it in context?
Speaker 1: Yes? In context? Is such an important point.
Speaker 2: Would I wear that down the street of George Street,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Or in the country where you're from, that would get
Speaker 1: to Barrel High Street.
Speaker 2: But it's one of those examples where she's probably got
Speaker 2: the shirt and jeans and shoes off.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Let's go out the door, hang on a minute, let's
Speaker 2: add three more pieces. Yeah, which is at Copenhagen Style,
Speaker 2: but it works here. She's at fashion week. She looks great,
Speaker 2: she looks confident.
Speaker 1: I feel like last year's fashion week there was a
Speaker 1: lot of that kind of sequence shift dress with layering,
Speaker 1: like I think, if you've got those, and again this
Speaker 1: autumn winter we just had there was a lot of
Speaker 1: sparkly skirts and a lot of sparkly dresses. So you
Speaker 1: can absolutely still carry them over to this new season.
Speaker 1: It might just be I mean, just wear them if
Speaker 1: you love them, but otherwise it might be mixing and matching.
Speaker 1: See that's quite a casual bag and a flat shoe,
Speaker 1: but it could be an evening dress.
Speaker 3: And you can dissect bits from this.
Speaker 2: So headscars, we're seeing a lot of the head scars,
Speaker 2: that handmaid's towel vibe of wearing out like this.
Speaker 3: Just wait spring summer. This is going to be.
Speaker 2: Awhere were that mustard color as well. So there's a brand.
Speaker 2: Day three of Copenhagen Fashion Week. Two best friends created
Speaker 2: this brand called Alice and they're actually from Christiania. You
Speaker 2: know the freetown in Copenhagen. It's lawless, there's no laws
Speaker 2: they've got their own electricity schooling. Wow, they can sell.
Speaker 2: So it's the grid kind of vibe. Yes, they just
Speaker 2: run itself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to do that.
Speaker 2: It felt really scary, but it's quite civilized, like they've
Speaker 2: got their own primary schools going, and it's just this
Speaker 2: way of living. But yeah, it's the brand's called Alice
Speaker 2: and it's two best friends from this christiania they've created.
Speaker 1: They showed fantasy Land, but maybe we don't want to go.
Speaker 2: And their color on the runway this year was that
Speaker 2: beautiful mustard color.
Speaker 1: I love that color. Was all. Yeah, it feels like
Speaker 1: a cooler tan than to me, like I do like
Speaker 1: a tan accessor in a tan, but mustard just feels
Speaker 1: like a bit edgier. But it's still sort of for neutral.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree it plays it's a safe exit
Speaker 2: out of neutral dressing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for me.
Speaker 1: It's a bright color, but it's safe. I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone has versions of this in their wardrobe that they
Speaker 1: just need to go and play dress up. Like literally,
Speaker 1: pretend you're three or seven and go and play.
Speaker 2: And I dare you to.
Speaker 1: We encourage you to actually try one we probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2: We should do it?
Speaker 1: We say, what have we got next? Okay, this is
Speaker 1: an image of three lovely ladies. They look like they're
Speaker 1: having the best time. Do you think they're related? I
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot to dicect, so make sure
Speaker 1: you check out the image on Instagram or it's on
Speaker 1: your screen on YouTube. The lady on the left, so
Speaker 1: we'll start with, she's wearing a black Maxi skirt I
Speaker 1: think or dress. It almost looks like a blue Oxford
Speaker 1: shirt underneath, which we all have. Then a tweed jacket.
Speaker 1: Then the next scarf that we're seeing worn his belts headscarves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what kind of shoe would that? That's like a hybrid.
Speaker 1: It's like a lace up ballet fl.
Speaker 3: Like the Mary Jane type.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I love the woven printed bag that
Speaker 1: she's kind of carrying, like a basketbag. That's almost like,
Speaker 1: I guess, beach style, but it doesn't look like a
Speaker 1: beach bag. There. That's a lot. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: stuff we all have versions of in our wardrobe.
Speaker 2: Because it's all relatively neutral colors. It's not too much. Yeah, practical,
Speaker 2: she looks great, like I.
Speaker 1: Think's I think she looks great. It's not something I
Speaker 1: would ever wear and more to the point, ever think
Speaker 1: of doing, which again inspires me to try different combinations.
Speaker 1: And nothing there screams wanted to visual trend that people
Speaker 1: might not already have. They're all kind of classics, but
Speaker 1: just put together in a weird way, a different way
Speaker 1: classic with a twist. And then what have we got
Speaker 1: in the middle? Is that a pedal pusher?
Speaker 2: They are the capris and we did see them with
Speaker 2: Opera Sport. They opened up Copenhagen Fashion Week Day one.
Speaker 2: They were having black capris everywhere, which I personally love,
Speaker 2: but you're not a fan.
Speaker 1: I like looking at them. I just it's not my
Speaker 1: body type. And I know I did it the first time,
Speaker 1: the first time for me many years ago in my
Speaker 1: early twenties. I like looking at them, but it's not
Speaker 1: something I would seek out to purchase. But I like
Speaker 1: a Bermuda short, which I guess is a looser version.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a long short above the knee, but
Speaker 1: tight and cropped just under the knee. Not doing any favors.
Speaker 2: Well, if you do like that trend, they're coming back.
Speaker 1: They're coming Are you gonna do it?
Speaker 3: Well, I say I love them. I've actually never tried
Speaker 3: any on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the look of it, never saying ever
Speaker 1: for me. But then she's almost got like a Chanell
Speaker 1: esque tweed, that kind of candy pink longer coat and.
Speaker 3: That bubblegum pink they're calling it. That's really big. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Actually the colors that she's wearing were really strong on
Speaker 2: the runway, so the black and white as a base,
Speaker 2: and then the bubblegum pink and then even the red
Speaker 2: rosette that she's got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got like a little red brooch. It could
Speaker 1: be Chanelle, could it might not be. And it looks
Speaker 1: like also a hairscarf perhaps in her ponytail at the back. Again,
Speaker 1: pretty classic items that are just kind of mismatched in
Speaker 1: the course way.
Speaker 2: That's a really nice way to describe it, I think
Speaker 2: if they are quite classic sophisticated, Yeah, and playing with
Speaker 2: different fabrications, so that tweed just with the linen or whatever,
Speaker 2: the cotton pants.
Speaker 1: She's wearing, Yeah, and then the Lovely Lady of the
Speaker 1: Third Lady she is wearing balloon pants sort of that
Speaker 1: we're seeing them everywhere in spring. That they've got the
Speaker 1: tie around the ankle. From where I sit, they look
Speaker 1: like a woven kind of ballet flat type loafer which
Speaker 1: I again am seeing everywhere. Knit vest, white shirt underneath.
Speaker 1: Interesting hat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't tell exactly what the hat is, but hat.
Speaker 1: Wear and hat, everything's on the head.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think it'scause it's cold there? Like I don't
Speaker 1: wear hats unless I'm going to the beach.
Speaker 2: And it's not like she's It hasn't got any sort
Speaker 2: of brim and it's not some protection.
Speaker 1: But it looks very cool. It's interesting. We had Eliza,
Speaker 1: she's the head of content here at Mamma Mia, and
Speaker 1: we'll put a link in the show notes that she
Speaker 1: lived in Scandinavia and worked at Scandinavian Vogue for a
Speaker 1: long time, and she said the number one thing that
Speaker 1: she recommends for women to have in their wardrobe is
Speaker 1: like a sleeveless knit vest like that that that's really
Speaker 1: great for layering and can add personality to a piece.
Speaker 1: I don't own what, but again, a classic that you
Speaker 1: can have every season.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, talk to me about this book because I think
Speaker 1: this speaks to your first point about the kind of
Speaker 1: clean lines that we're used to seeing.
Speaker 3: And used to and still see this lady.
Speaker 1: Is wearing a kind of very classic structured blazer in
Speaker 1: a white or off white shade that sinks in at
Speaker 1: the waist, and then a long white either dress or
Speaker 1: maxist that's kind of uneven heim but still very clean silhouette.
Speaker 2: Overall, and with playing in the blacks and the cream
Speaker 2: ivory whites.
Speaker 3: So day three.
Speaker 2: We saw school month and then Opera Sport as well.
Speaker 2: Day one, they all focus so heavily on these black
Speaker 2: and whites, which is sort of contradictory to the whole
Speaker 2: maximalist style, but it goes back to the origins of
Speaker 2: that scandy minimalist style dressing. Yeah, so it's still quite
Speaker 2: prevalent within the streets and it's what consumers, I guess
Speaker 2: are buying in Copenhagen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's got a black looks like an East
Speaker 1: West bag or a bowler bag, and then a black shoe.
Speaker 1: And for me, when I wear black and white together,
Speaker 1: I feel like I look like a white stuff. But
Speaker 1: for some reason that's just so classic and simple but
Speaker 1: not I don't know, it just works.
Speaker 2: I know she looks beautiful, very elegant, very elegant. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was so school and month day three. Don't mind
Speaker 2: my Danish pronunciation, but they were these beautiful almost like
Speaker 2: feminine ethereal style runway shows showing all these beautiful whites
Speaker 2: and the ivories and smock style tops as well, love
Speaker 2: beautiful girls like yeah, feminine lyle would be how are
Speaker 2: you okay?
Speaker 1: I'm oh good. I hope that comes here. Okay, this
Speaker 1: image that you're gonna have to have a look at
Speaker 1: an Instagram, it will do our best to describe it
Speaker 1: for me. This is the definition of maximalism, Liscinda, please
Speaker 1: help me describe this. What are we seeing?
Speaker 2: Okay, So she's wearing a maxi skirt with a long
Speaker 2: sleep top.
Speaker 3: Let's start with the bottom.
Speaker 2: It's an orange maxi skirt that's sort of been cut
Speaker 2: up and looks like spaghetti.
Speaker 1: Yeah it does. It looks like just fringing, like fringing,
Speaker 1: you know, one of those chimney dresses. Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to explain this skirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah that. Luckily the top onto which we'll get to
Speaker 2: in a second, goes like it's almost to the length
Speaker 2: of a mini skirt. So all you're seeing is orange
Speaker 2: fringing on the bottom. Yes, and then she's got this.
Speaker 2: It looks really cool. This embroidered. Yeah, like long leave top,
Speaker 2: different colors.
Speaker 3: It's got like red.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Kendon Vibes was obviously I'm assuming it's
Speaker 1: not kendme, but it's like Colbot blue orange flowers. It
Speaker 1: could be a jacket. It almost looks padded, but it's stripes, florals,
Speaker 1: splashes of blue, splashes of red and black and yellow.
Speaker 2: And it's big yellow hoops. Two or three necklaces, Yeah,
Speaker 2: big necklaces, so chunky accessories.
Speaker 1: And then her handbag looks like a Chuck super white,
Speaker 1: which I love, but it's this big blue and white checked.
Speaker 3: And it's all block colors, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so almost.
Speaker 1: I mean orange is in a primary color, but it's
Speaker 1: very bright colors.
Speaker 2: And then the big hair as well, she's got this
Speaker 2: gorgeous afro.
Speaker 1: And she's rocking it. But to me that I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it. I again wouldn't wear it, but it
Speaker 1: makes me feel so joyful to look at.
Speaker 3: It's fun. It's clever as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is clever because it all ties in, doesn't
Speaker 1: it does?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it works.
Speaker 1: We could talk about Copenhagen street stuff forever, but let's
Speaker 1: finish with this image of three women on the street
Speaker 1: because this is a lot of trends that I think
Speaker 1: we're going to see here soon me through what we're seeing.
Speaker 2: So we're seeing a lot of sporty sheep girls here.
Speaker 3: It's a group of three girls.
Speaker 2: The one on the left is wearing blue and white jersey,
Speaker 2: which we're seeing heaps. I think this started New York
Speaker 2: Fashion Week with lowe By.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've already been around a fair bit, right, So.
Speaker 2: That's been and we're seeing it here with beconbridge and
Speaker 2: cotton on So she's wearing that classic cotton rugby jersey
Speaker 2: that we're seeing everywhere, but she's got like a blue
Speaker 2: Oxford shirt underneath it. Love that.
Speaker 1: I think I can do that. That's not scary for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's blue on blue, so there's not too
Speaker 2: much clashing going on.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 2: And then she's got these dark gray cargo pants and then.
Speaker 1: Blue almost like yeah longer yeah.
Speaker 3: And then blue socks with a black kidden here.
Speaker 1: I can't do that.
Speaker 3: I love the socks.
Speaker 1: I love the look of it, and I feel like
Speaker 1: Australia is getting more into the like a sock with
Speaker 1: a heel, a kitten a hill. But I love the
Speaker 1: look of it. But I wouldn't do it myself. But
Speaker 1: I think she looks if she walked down the street
Speaker 1: in Sydney, I'd be like cool. I wouldn't be like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: that's too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do this. So it's just blue tying in.
Speaker 2: If you've got a blue shirt and get a rugby
Speaker 2: jersey over the top, some sort of short or pants,
Speaker 2: socks and a heel.
Speaker 1: That's true. I'm going to try it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sharing I love this look. It's really efeli.
Speaker 1: And then the one on the right, she's wearing at
Speaker 1: US Active Wear shorts which we are seeing everywhere.
Speaker 2: Added US runner shorts, which is the short ones, or
Speaker 2: there's the trackie pants which we're used to.
Speaker 3: We're so mighty.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was Zoe Cravis was seen wearing these runner
Speaker 2: shorts by added Us and it's sort of just from
Speaker 2: there blue up. Yeah, it's everywhere. So she's got the
Speaker 2: blue and navy runner shorts. And then this bright red bag,
Speaker 2: which I love, like a bigette bag. Yeah, she's got
Speaker 2: socks on as well, but these ones go just below
Speaker 2: the knees or high black sock.
Speaker 1: So I think overall that look shows that you can mix,
Speaker 1: you know, sporty pieces with more classics.
Speaker 2: And maybe something to think about is pick a sport
Speaker 2: that you like or resonate with. So you'd say the
Speaker 2: girl on the right in the shorts, it's almost is
Speaker 2: like soccer vies with the shorts and then the long socks,
Speaker 2: whereas like the other one's got more of a rugby
Speaker 2: s vibe.
Speaker 1: That's you talking about your sporty leanings. Everything's just sport
Speaker 1: for me, and I would only own sport things if
Speaker 1: I was going to the gym or did sport, whereas
Speaker 1: you want to categorize it into the type of spor
Speaker 1: But on that we are going to see a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff coming to our springs summer very soon,
Speaker 1: if not now, so can you come back in a
Speaker 1: few weeks and we'll translate some of these trends into
Speaker 1: what we're about to wear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd love to Lee.
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